This has been one of my biggest problems. Great video. I feel like for a while it was considered “bad” to roll your hands over at impact but having this correct wrist angle forces you to have to roll over or you’ll have an open club face at impact
Gotta have SOME lead arm supination trail arm pronation (arm rotation) The amount depends heavily on GRIP, club face coming into ball and body positions ruclips.net/video/8Cg2O8atmYY/видео.html
Maybe in commemoration of Jon Rahm's US Open victory, (yes the 2 final putts won it for him - and a certain South African that went OB on the 17th), you can do a modern golf swing how-to Power-Fade Driver setup (paths, face to path, ball position, strong face at the top, bowed wrist, etc) using Rahm, Morikawa, Hovland, Keopka examples on building a driver-swing that will survive the pressure of competition.
I know I give this guy a hard time but he is a great instructor you can tell he is passionate about preserving the game and also getting us to play better golf. At the US OPEN they did a slow mo of JSpeith driver swing and his left wrist was bowed and I want that piece incorporated into be swing for max compression
Key point for me was at 2:30, this is what I have thought the wrist release was. I video taped myself and saw that I had a relatively cupped lead wrist around impact. The feeling of keeping the right wrist extended all the way into and (feels like) past impact is new to me. Is this a decent feeling, or should there be some throw/lead wrist moving towards extension before impact?
Hey Ross, That's an awesome feel! Love that. In a normal swing, gradually release wrist angles through impact. Fully released angles at ~45° past impact👍 More details on TIMING of trail wrist extension/"bent back" to flexion: ruclips.net/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/bnNsbWgUjFw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/MchWG9IYBQw/видео.htmlfeature=shared Hope this helps!
....thank you Eric - I really suffering with this at the minute - I've put it down to not completing my turn - or more specifically, not turning into my right hip
Great video! I’ve already started practicing this. Do you have a video on how the wrists work with the Driver, since it’s an upward angle swing instead of down?
Even though I know that having a bent back right wrist (righty) gives me forward shaft lean and a solid impact feel it still feels counter-intuitive. With the wrist bent it seems that I must have stored/unused power and hence club speed and I suspect this assumption is why most amateurs flick the ball. Surely (“don’t call me Shirley”) the club head will have achieved maximum velocity when the arms are fully extended after impact so why are we not trying to achieve this fully extended position at impact? Do you have a trace/graph of club head speed against its position in the swing, at what point in its arc is the club head actually travelling the fastest and why aren’t we trying to make this the impact position? Cheers,
You are looking to reach full extension about 45* past impact with wrist and arms Look at slow mo face on of your favorite players...you will see that as about an average ruclips.net/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/видео.html
So, is it fair to say that club head speed is more from the arm swing speed than any uncocking of the wrists since at impact there is still right wrist extension?
@@wesboothe6507 I think they do because if you attach the bottom section of it that has a little plastic club face on it you’re supposed to line that up with the actual club face.
So Eric if you hold the wrist angles to last parallel at that point are your hands just releasing automatically or is it something you are doing consciously? Thanks for the video.
Hey! As always....should you CONSCIOUSLY do something or not of course depends on do you currently do it? If you currently do it correctly it requires NO THOUGHT. IF you do not currently do it correctly it requires THOUGHT. (or how will it change) Generally speaking the wrists WILL unhinge no matter what you do...its the timing that's key. Use video and see what your FEELs produce in reality
Been working on feeling of hands moving another 6 inches passed ball. So my hand path travels inside the ball, and continues for another 6 inches passed the ball before I release the wrists. Do you think this is a good picture to have?
I’ve found that to get my left wrist bowed I have to push my hips thru the ball during impact. Is it better to feel the right hip pushing thru or the right knee pushing forward?
Hey Steve! Yes---hips need to push forward. I like belt buckle to the chair: ruclips.net/video/OlZKqVytr0U/видео.html Either one of those COULD work....any FEEL could work have to see what you ACTUALLY do when you feel it (use video)
I thought I was crazy for trying to do this. I was worried I was “holding onto lag” in organically but I really just don’t want to flip my dang wrists early
Hey Jake! Unhinging (ulnar deviating) your wrists immediately from the top would... 1. cause contact issues via moving the low point back (fats and thins) 2. make you lose club head speed (power potential) through impact More details in the videos below! ruclips.net/video/FxgR6Ovdqn8/видео.htmlfeature=shared ruclips.net/video/s6SER1QwG_4/видео.htmlfeature=shared
That swing technique is gold!
:)
It's like Eric knows what I'm struggling lol thanks Eric .
Lol I feel the exact same way!
:) Hope it helps!
This has been one of my biggest problems. Great video. I feel like for a while it was considered “bad” to roll your hands over at impact but having this correct wrist angle forces you to have to roll over or you’ll have an open club face at impact
Gotta have SOME lead arm supination trail arm pronation (arm rotation)
The amount depends heavily on GRIP, club face coming into ball and body positions
ruclips.net/video/8Cg2O8atmYY/видео.html
Maybe in commemoration of Jon Rahm's US Open victory, (yes the 2 final putts won it for him - and a certain South African that went OB on the 17th), you can do a modern golf swing how-to Power-Fade Driver setup (paths, face to path, ball position, strong face at the top, bowed wrist, etc) using Rahm, Morikawa, Hovland, Keopka examples on building a driver-swing that will survive the pressure of competition.
Good idea! Awesome tournament!
I know I give this guy a hard time but he is a great instructor you can tell he is passionate about preserving the game and also getting us to play better golf. At the US OPEN they did a slow mo of JSpeith driver swing and his left wrist was bowed and I want that piece incorporated into be swing for max compression
Appreciate ya :)
Yay! Now we're talking!
👍💯💪😎
:)
Key point for me was at 2:30, this is what I have thought the wrist release was. I video taped myself and saw that I had a relatively cupped lead wrist around impact. The feeling of keeping the right wrist extended all the way into and (feels like) past impact is new to me. Is this a decent feeling, or should there be some throw/lead wrist moving towards extension before impact?
Hey Ross,
That's an awesome feel! Love that.
In a normal swing, gradually release wrist angles through impact. Fully released angles at ~45° past impact👍
More details on TIMING of trail wrist extension/"bent back" to flexion:
ruclips.net/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/bnNsbWgUjFw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/MchWG9IYBQw/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Hope this helps!
Great tips thank you!
Thanks Louis!
....thank you Eric - I really suffering with this at the minute - I've put it down to not completing my turn - or more specifically, not turning into my right hip
Hope this helps! Thanks for watching Rory!
Thanks Eric !
Our pleasure!
Great video! I’ve already started practicing this.
Do you have a video on how the wrists work with the Driver, since it’s an upward angle swing instead of down?
Will put that on the list, Dave!
Can you do a video on tension in the swing. Arm, hands and upper body
Hey Kenny!
These would be good to start with:
ruclips.net/video/VQ2fVOx6re8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/a3aPYb1VP3s/видео.html
Hi Eric, what about the longer Irons like 5 iron? Same amount of shaft lean and wrist angles as for the 8 Iron? Best Regards Bernd
Same FEELs....but there will be less lean bc the ball is more forward and you have more tilt at setup with longer clubs
Thank you
Our pleasure, William!
Hi Eric good vid, as far as the up/down motion should I set up with hands low thumbs up fully cocked or thumbs down fully uncocked or neutral? Thx
Hey Ryan! Here is more detailed info on the setup and hinge amounts throughout the swing
ruclips.net/video/PicEGBmuktI/видео.html
Even though I know that having a bent back right wrist (righty) gives me forward shaft lean and a solid impact feel it still feels counter-intuitive. With the wrist bent it seems that I must have stored/unused power and hence club speed and I suspect this assumption is why most amateurs flick the ball. Surely (“don’t call me Shirley”) the club head will have achieved maximum velocity when the arms are fully extended after impact so why are we not trying to achieve this fully extended position at impact? Do you have a trace/graph of club head speed against its position in the swing, at what point in its arc is the club head actually travelling the fastest and why aren’t we trying to make this the impact position? Cheers,
You are looking to reach full extension about 45* past impact with wrist and arms
Look at slow mo face on of your favorite players...you will see that as about an average
ruclips.net/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/видео.html
Should we keep that same wrist feel with the driver or woods?
Nope...until you REALLY throw early.
You need more throw with driver
ruclips.net/video/hJ5scchaRPQ/видео.html
So, is it fair to say that club head speed is more from the arm swing speed than any uncocking of the wrists since at impact there is still right wrist extension?
Thats fair yes
I get this but the g forces generated by the swing make it impossible for me to keep the right wrist bent all the time. What am doing wrong ?
I have the Hangar. But why put it on at 45 instead of straight on as they instruct? Is it to exaggerate the wrist conditions?
Don’t believe Watson hanger instructs straight, they mention to put the hanger at 2 o’clock that would simulate a 45* angle 📐
@@wesboothe6507 I think they do because if you attach the bottom section of it that has a little plastic club face on it you’re supposed to line that up with the actual club face.
I like 45* for most grip types. Try it and record yourself from DTL...find what angle makes your left wrist flat. For me thats 45*
So Eric if you hold the wrist angles to last parallel at that point are your hands just releasing automatically or is it something you are doing consciously? Thanks for the video.
Hey!
As always....should you CONSCIOUSLY do something or not of course depends on do you currently do it?
If you currently do it correctly it requires NO THOUGHT.
IF you do not currently do it correctly it requires THOUGHT. (or how will it change)
Generally speaking the wrists WILL unhinge no matter what you do...its the timing that's key. Use video and see what your FEELs produce in reality
Been working on feeling of hands moving another 6 inches passed ball. So my hand path travels inside the ball, and continues for another 6 inches passed the ball before I release the wrists. Do you think this is a good picture to have?
Yes
I’ve found that to get my left wrist bowed I have to push my hips thru the ball during impact. Is it better to feel the right hip pushing thru or the right knee pushing forward?
Hey Steve!
Yes---hips need to push forward. I like belt buckle to the chair:
ruclips.net/video/OlZKqVytr0U/видео.html
Either one of those COULD work....any FEEL could work have to see what you ACTUALLY do when you feel it (use video)
Excellent
Thanks!
Good stuff but I think many times the wrist angles collapse due to body issues.
100%
Can poor wrist positions also screw up body positions?
Certainly. Open club face (from poor grip or wrist angles) responsible for 80% or more of all downswing issues
I thought I was crazy for trying to do this. I was worried I was “holding onto lag” in organically but I really just don’t want to flip my dang wrists early
Hope this one serves you well! Thank you for watching the channel!
Would love to see your opinion vs. someone who tells you to downcock immediately in the downswing mr eric of the cogorno dynasty.
Hey Jake!
Unhinging (ulnar deviating) your wrists immediately from the top would...
1. cause contact issues via moving the low point back (fats and thins)
2. make you lose club head speed (power potential) through impact
More details in the videos below!
ruclips.net/video/FxgR6Ovdqn8/видео.htmlfeature=shared
ruclips.net/video/s6SER1QwG_4/видео.htmlfeature=shared
well now im hooking the ball... great lol
Thats a good start!
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