Harley-Davidson Exhaust Systems, Sorting Out the Who and What
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Exhaust systems for Harley-Davidson motorcycle are everywhere and the options are nearly endless. Beyond looks and sound each system targets a different function and this will greatly determine your motorcycle's power output. Some exhaust systems are great for looks and sound but really aren't going to do much to benefit your bikes performance. Getting the proper exhaust to match your riding style, needs and performance goals is going to make your investment worth every penny!
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What's your favorite style of exhaust system?
I love my SE II on my 00 Heritage Softail.
currently I'm running a Vance and Hines true dual headers with Rinehart slip ons on my '09 flhtc
Bassani road rage B2 , got it on one of my street bob ... really think i want one on my other dyna (was thinking about V&H short shots til this video )
Thunderheader on my 96" 99 Evo Heritage Classic...drag pipes 34½" 45° slash cut w/ splitters on my 1973 91 ci Shovelhead...light to light hauls ass my friend...
2-1... even on my bagger
The more often I see your posts the upper shelf in the background is sagging a little bit more
I swear it's got a planned replacement coming soon!
😄😂 thank you! My wife is the carpenter, video coming soon!
LOL!!! I said the same thing. That shelf is scaring me!
That's how he gets subs. When he gets to a million he'll fix it.
@@joetroutt7425 LOL... A couple of 2x4s would go a long way to help!
I think a ThunderHeader with wrap is the definition of form follows function, and they sound awesome.
Those pipes work and do it very well!
Agreed. I got tired of rewrapping every few years. Now I use VHT header paint.
Agreed my Thunderheader sounds amazing on my 107ci motor w
@@alanquintus2069 you paint the wrap or just the header?
@@49r4life The header. There's no wrap on it at all.
Dude, your into into the three factors into exhausts is the best I ever heard. I usually start grinding my teeth whenever someone says that you need back pressure, when instead you need velocity of your exhaust gas flow.
Great video and content. It’s refreshing to see someone on RUclips that knows what they are talking about and can explain it in no bs terms. Keep up the good videos man.
Thank you! I appreciate your support, it mean a lot to me!
Dude said in another video that spark plug wires made his bike sound better..🤷♂️
I have an '03, Sportster XLH 883 Anniversary that I bought new in 2016... I say new because it had 236 original miles. One of the first things I wanted to upgrade was the exhaust system from the OEM. Not for exhaust volume but for performance. I had something particular in mind until I saw this video and honestly was convinced that a pair of Screaming Eagle mufflers would work as well if not better than the full system I was looking at. My thoughts and basic plan was not to turn a Briggs and Stratton into a Titan Rocket but more to just extract what's in there (not being utilized) accepting incremental improvements. I followed through with that and was blown away! That "incremental improvement" was more like a motor job than a muffler swap! Thank you so much!! I study your videos regardless of how they apply may apply to my ride because it's valuable information. Thank you again.
I learn something new every time I watch your videos
Nice to see somebody that knows what they're talking about! When I was young it was loud & proud. But much older now & run Reinhardt's on my 2010 FLH. Nice deep throaty sound!!! Sucks getting old,....
Thank you! They have some very nice systems, I've run Vance & Hines quite a bit but I am coming over the Reinhardt exhaust.
Vance and Hines short staggered duels.
I was at the HD dealer yesterday getting tires, So I was looking at all the new big inch rides.
When my Heritage fired up heads started turning I knew immediately it was mine. Gotta love it haha.
Yes! I love it when you just know it's your bike!
I’m time traveling (looking at older videos) and binge watching your videos 👍🏻
Your videos are very matter of fact. Great videos. You come across very well.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Great content. Really like your channel. Back when I bought my '14 SGS, I had asked for true duels, 2 into 2, on the bike, but they thought I want the power duels and put that on instead. I had had the true duels on my last bike and like it. I asked if they would change it and they said no problem. Once they were done, I got the call telling me to pick up the bike. I remember the guy telling me "I don't think you are going to be happy with this change". LOL So I took the bike down the road and though OMG what did I do! I lost 10% of my torque changing the header pipe from a duel with X over to straight duels. I crawled back and beg forgiveness. They changed them back for some labor cost. All good. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! Damn that's awesome they went ahead and changed it back for a little labor charge, that cross over section makes a huge difference!
Thanks for the info. I was only going to add slip-ons to my '15 Ultra Limited, but now I'll be getting a set of head pipes as well.
You'll notice a huge difference in the heat you feel off the bike, Harley had some very bad placement on the cat.
2016 FLTRXS (that's a Road Glide Special for those of you in Rio Linda (miss you Rush)), with Drago's Dragula 2 (2:1). Love the look, sound and performance.
Great video, Gixxer! I'm going back and viewing all of your old videos, and I wish I had known some of the stuff you talked about in this one before I bought my last exhaust system.
Thank you! I appreciate the support! There's quite a bit involved in exhaust systems.
I agree with you on the 2 into 1. I pulled the baffle out and the power drop was evident
Patriot 2 into 1's have a butterfly valve in the exhaust so you can tune the sound and power. Really a neat design but it could really mess with your tuning unless you have a wide band system.
Great video. I agree with everything you said. Personally I prefer the 2 into 2, which I have on my soft tail now, but I have used different exhaust on different bikes. I had true duels on my street glide which I really liked, slip-ons on my last sportster, and ran mostly drag pipes in my younger days. For me it depends on the bike and the performance level of the motor.
Right on! Yeah it's really dependent on the bike and your goals with it.
I’ve been saving for a while to change the stock that came on my lowrider so this video helped a lot. Thanks.
The exhaust aren't cheap anymore then you gotta get a tuner and I highly recommend an open air cleaner. You get that exhaust on, you'll get some sound but you tune with a aftermarket tune for the exhaust you will see a huge difference!
Gixxer, glad you're feeling better. Thanks for the video.
Thank you, it's good to be back!
Excellent video. Answered a lot of questions for me.
Great content. Much appreciation.
Very informative!! All my questions were answered!!👍
Finding your channel packed with excellent, useful information. Thanks!
Glad to hear it!
Very good information
Staggered shortie, stock. I put a 3/8 inch hole in the plug and gave it a more deep sound. The down side to the crossover was adjusting the idle air mixture. The good thing is in cold weather it gets the fuel ready to burn.
I’m checking in 2 years late but truly appreciate your videos. Been a rider for over 50 years if you count starting at 11! Just bought a 2016 Road Glide Ultra that has a Rush ceramic coated header (on cat) and Rush “Big Louie” slip-one, stage1 air cleaner and V&H FP-3 tuner. Runs great but the BL slip-ons are really loud. Going to pull the baffles and repack them or go back to the stock mufflers, keeping the header and see how it goes. If that does do it for me then I’ll join the slip-on of the month club and try something else.
Great Info! Thank you! GixxerFoo!
Vance and hines big shot staggered.👍 Best of both worlds.
Love the big shots! You really don't see them much these days sadly.
Best explanation I've seen. great video. really appreciate it.
Love the tone of my two into one exhaust on my Switchback! Just love the sound. Nice job.
Thank you! I wish they'd bring that SwitchBack back, that bike is an awesome concept. It's like a Road King that doesn't weigh a gillion pounds. What exhaust did you put on your bike?
@@GixxerFoo just the stock exhaust.
Once Again Great info..Love my Eliminator Slip ons on my 20 FXLRS..Great sound/Performance and Cooling / Mileage..
Right on! That's a very nice system!
Thanks. You give us in-depth information
Very welcome and my pleasure, I hope it was useful!
The thing about a crossover pipe, especially an "x pipe" style is they help with scavenging. The pulse coming out of one pipe helps to clear what's left in the other and really increases velocity.
That's absolutely correct, the pipes increases velocity and actually draws exhaust gas down the system out of the combustion chamber.
Good lord. Someone that understands why you need a cross over on a Harley…
Alot of great info in this video. Thanks for doing it.
Always great info and videos
Keep em coming 👊🏽
Thanks! Will do!
One of the first things I learned about maximizing engine performance was the "air in" "air out" of the combustion chamber, which in turn led me to exhaust flows. Even back in the "70's" it was noted how 2 in 1 exhaust systems gave optimum performance. It was noticed especially on "flat track" twins and "drag bikes". It didn't take a whole lot of research to convince me. Nice job breaking it down GixerFoo! 2013 FXSB w/Bassani Road Rage II.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Exhaust systems are really more than just noise, unless you don't care about performance and just want looks and sound.
Since the 70's...Yes, I started messing with aftermarket exhaust when I bought a 72 sporty...then in 75 I bought a 46 Knuckle...the knuckle seems to run really well with the 2" pipes i made, and the original Super Trapps where you can change the discs. No matter what, you still can't really get top power all the way from idle to red-line,
Good to see you back. Take care of yourself
Thank you!
Very informative, Mike. Enjoyed this one. I've always wondered what the crossover was for on a 2 into 2. That's how my softail and electraglide are set up. Love the way the softail sounds with it. It has the stock 2 into 2 system with Screamin Eagle slip ons. It performs well with it too just like you said. Thanks for posting this.
Glad it was helpful! Harley learned people didn't like the crossover across the motor so they started hiding them. Your Softail has the SE slip-ons from back when they were a real performance exhaust! The ones today aren't much more sound than stock and they have cats in them, they are great for torque but don't do much more horsepower today.
@@GixxerFoo Having a deer run into my '05 FLHRS on the left side right behind the front tire, spin around and smack my SE slip on that's on that side broke the baffle inside of it. Started it up recently, after sitting for too long to admit, (too long of a sad tale to tell!) and fiberglass was blowing out the back. Rush makes replacements for my bike, but a Vance & Hines Pro Pipe (love the looks and sound of them) is going on, when its S&S 111 mill is installed... lol
Really good video , made me think twice about what my new exhaust will be
Glad I could help!
Great information.
I went with V&H Dresser Duals head pipe, and V&H slash cut oval mufflers on my 2014 street glide special. Pretty happy with this set up.
V&H makes a nice head pipe, plus they have an awesome selection of mufflers to pair it with. Can't go wrong with V&H dresser exhaust systems!
@@GixxerFoo , Keep up the good content! I like your videos! 👊
I have a V&H Big Radius 2.2 on my 2010 Dyna Superglide C. Couldn't be happier. It has a deep, lower pitched sound and good smooth power.
That's a beautiful exhaust system, they sound damn good too!
@@GixxerFoo Yea its great. It has the hidden crossover like you recommended. And doesn't piss off the whole nabourghhood.!
Awesome video with great info thanks!!!!
Glad to see you're feeling better! I run 2-1-2 for my bike!
Thank you! Those are my kinda system!
good to see your back
Thank you!
I enjoyed this video this morning. I still ride my Harley Davidson FXWG 1983 since 1983. The best sounding pipes I had were drag pipes with Kromwerks HP baffles. Now I have Staggered duals. Neighbors like them better!
Oh gosh I bet your neighbors like those better! That's awesome you've held onto your bike that long over the years. It's possible with other brands but Harley is about the only one you can still get parts for and that's factory parts too. There are very few Harley parts that are obsolete, except a Vrod oil cooler, lol that was fun even finding someone to repair a radiator today.
@@GixxerFoo I still wish they would bring back the V-Rod, I always thought that was a slick looking Bike.
Thank you for the very clear content, even as a non-native English speaker, I can understand your words well
You are welcome! Thank you for the support, I am very happy to hear that and I hope the information is helpful!
I always use V&H true duals and big city thunder baffles, love the sound
Running a DND and makes my softail smoke !
Sounds like it's running rich, may need to lean it out a little.
Glad to see you're feeling better.
I'm happy with the s&s header and Big Louie by Rush. It's got a deep throaty sound when you run through the gears but quiet when you're at a standstill idling.
Thank you!
@@GixxerFoo you're too young to be sick ✌️😂. Question ? I was wondering if you would do a video on suspensions. I thought I've been through all your videos but don't recall seeing one. and I was wondering what your thoughts are on the SOX shocks. I'm considering running them on the rear of my RG
Nice to hear someone who understands the theory of how exhaust systems work. I owned a dyno business for several years and specialized in tuning Harleys. Explaining this to customers can be exhausting!!! 😂
Oh gosh l understand completely, l worked in shops for many years and felt like l could just play back a recording on the counter. I imagine you got wore out trying to explain this especially as a tuner.
@@GixxerFoo to the point where I sold the business. Everyone with a laptop thought they were a tuner and everyone with a toolbox thought they were a tech. Lol
Long shots with cross over and "quiet" baffles. Love em. Sound is perfect.
I have them on my Sporster, same baffles. Best sound.
Yes! The long pipes need to make a come back!
@GixxerFoo @@rider14mcd63 I went round and round trying to find that deep tone without so much "Blat Blat" you get with straight or regular bfls. I even went so far as to make my own glass packs to fit inside a set of V&H. The Long shots and Q-baffles was spot on perfect. And for those wondering, they are not "quiet" at all.
Got the quiet baffles on mine but took the wadding off. Found standard baffles too loud on long ride. The quiet baffles just take the edge off.
Great video. 2008 Ultra. S & S easy start 551s. Arlen ness big sucker w/ a tune. Icing on cake was a Rush 2-1 exhaust w/ 2.25 " baffle, "stepped" headed pipe. Great sound. 99 hp/100 ft. lbs. torque. Bought the pipe used. Got the low/mid range grunt was looking for. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Sounds like you have one hell of a build, those are some really good numbers!
Thanks Foo Great video. Always have info I didn't know I needed.
Glad to help!
Excellent video and great information. New to the channel, but I've watched a lot of your videos and all were informative.
Awesome, thank you!
Wonderful video and I agree with everything you said. I think you left out one more option, the "lollipops". These also address the pulse issue, modify the sound and increase low end torque.
My 2005 Sporty 883 has factory headers, aftermarket slip-on's with baffles plus the DKCustoms Thunder Torque Inserts ("TTI's" which do everything they claim. They deepened the "voice" of my exhaust without increasing the volume and increased the torque. I just used the same bolt hole for the baffles and installation was easy. These are not expensive and they are removable. No, I do not work for DKC and they did not pay me anything for saying this. They are that good.
I've heard a lot of good things about DK exhaust, I am looking at trying one on my Sportster too!
What a great vid, good to watch and everything explained clearly .. I feel like I know stuff now, well a bit..
Glad it was helpful! I love getting the word out and giving everyone some things to think about before you spend hard earned money for parts.
GFoo , thanks for the Heads up on exhaust!👊
Any time!
Glad it feeling better ! I have 2 friends that run dynos one of which did all the dyno work for Rush exhaust back in 05 he had a customer that had Rush slip-on's & decided to go to a 2 into one he bought a VH pro pipe when they dynoed the bike they lost 9 HP VH told them they needed the competition baffle they gained back only 6 HP they eventually put a thunderheader on & gained 5 HP over the slip ons ! But you are correct on everything you said ! Drag pipes belong on the drag strip stock header pipes with slip ons or the best 2 into 1 ( Thunderheader ) on the street !
In haven't seen many good things at all with the Vance & Hines competition series 2 into 1. Hammer performance tested one too and they had better power with cheap slip ons. I was truly shocked that pipe doesn't perform better.
With my 2009 softtail when she was new. I took a long drill bit drilled 6 holes in a circle. Then I took a long drift and popped it out and it sounded better than anyone else's bike I ride with. Some of my friends have forgone putting on fancy pipes and did what I did to the factory pipes.
You can make a nice exhaust out of the stock unit with a little work into it.
i have Vance and Hines twin slash slip-ons and a stage 2 Arlen Ness big sucker. very very happy with sound and power
I run the twin slash myself, my wife does too. We're really happy with the sound and performance.
I have Vance and Hines headers with a set a screaming eagle slip-on, I enjoyed the video, thanks
Very nice! I like aftermarket headers with the screamin eagle exhaust, they sound good and perform very well!
Love my Thunderheader.
To me that's one of the best two into ones ever made for the Harley.
On my 2020 cvo limited, stage 4 131, went with supertrapp catless headers and supertrapp slip ons,, 2 into 2 , love the mean loud sound and power is very strong
Hell yeah, does yours have the tuneable disc setup?
GixxerFoo no mate, just interior built in baffles, which are practically non existent,,,
Five... 15 stars for you my friend! This is the most comprehensive, easily understood tutorial, I have yet to see, anywhere! I have an '03 HD 883 (that I absolutely love) ...I am inquisitive about and fiercely driven to achieve enhanced performance. (Lucky for me I'm not a speed freak... "Honey, I need to do this pricey motor upgrade... we're gonna have to sell your Jeep!") I know what I think I could or want to be "better" ...I have my laundry list for the approach I should take to make that happen. Exhaust systems were #3 on the list... or were, with two successes under my belt, item three 3 is now #1. Your video has filled in all the blanks as well as spoke to a few things I either wasn't aware of or did not realize the significance of. Thank you, thank you, thank you!! I am ready to make my move with great confidence as to the results I am seeking. As I alluded to, I am very keen on study and will vet as many ideas, opinions and "philosophies" as necessary till I find a consistency and credibility that gives me the confidence I just mentioned. There are no shortage of resources "here" (how nice) but I'd like you to know... you have become my gold standard! For what this is worth, you may also have saved marriage... armed with what I've learned here, I can pursue that next upgrade without having to sell the old la... my young babe's rolling treasure! Thanks for a great video man!
I am very happy to help! The exhaust is very important, you can spend a lot of money and up with a lot of disappointment with the wrong exhaust. 883 is a stout motor and a great place to start, add a 1275 kit and you'll be ready to roll!
@@GixxerFoo You have, thank you so much!! 1275 eh? ...there's goes the Jeep! 👍🏻 Be safe
@GixxerFoo Good afternoon. Thank you again for a great video that answered many questions, including some I didn't know to ask but were beneficial in helping get me closer to the "right exhaust for me!" My ultimate mission is improved performance. I have no desire break, drag records, the sound barrier nor my neighbors eardrums. After seeing your video, I am convinced a crossover exhaust is the best way for me to go. Having a stock 883 I'm half way there... well mostly stock. I had a friend rebuild my stock carburetor... he fixed me up with a stage one set-up, unbeknownst to me. Then I upped the ante be installing a cheap but effective air filter that added a whole lot more air into the system. Re that, my deal there was strictly cosmetic, I liked the look of it (circular, 4" in diameter with a thick see through plexi cover. I've seen a lot of them around and not just on Sportsters) and I was tired of banging my knee on that "gomby" stock filter cover... now all I need is a good set of "slip ons" to complete my "accidental" stage one upgrade. I am assuming that all that combined; I may... should? feel some kind of noticeable performance boost. After going sideways for awhile with my research for the slip ons; I decided to ask you. Given what I've told you, could you recommend a slip on muffler that would go well with what I have right now. Thank you so much!
I have a build motor in my Road King. I run a 2 into 1 Supertrap and it makes great power.
'91 Fatboy Shotgun drag pipes on my '84 and '99 model EVO Softails. They make me happy.
Another good and interesting video thanks for sharing
I appreciate it! Thank you for checking it out!
Good job.
Thanks!
Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Running the V&H big radius 2 into 2, not the best choice for my 110 tire shredder street bob but it looks amazing and has a much deeper thump when idling.
I imagine that 110 sounds bad ass with those pipes and the cams the kit uses!
Very informative. Thanks. 👍🏼
My pleasure!
I came close too going 2 into 1, but I cant get away from that Harley Sound. And my wife loves it too. Sold, 2 into 2 it is.
I have the S&S power tune dual header with their SPO mufflers on my modified 103 ultra. Sounds like a seventies big block. Nice rumble with incredible torque off idle. Great for a two-up heavy bagger that you can ride all day and still talk without screaming at each other.
Very cool! I've heard that system before and it's got very deep sound to it!
I just put these headers on my 09 RK with Screamin Eagle Street Cannons and couldn't be happier. I added the high flow air cleaner and a V&H FP3 and she runs like a top! A definite improvement over the true duals that were on it and no high flow air cleaner.
I put new Avon rubber on the front and rear three weeks ago. After that, I figured 'screw it' and bought Bassani Road Rage 3 for my 2000 FLHR. I chose them because I like the stainless finish and they look good. Sound is loud when accelerating, but quiets down cruising around town. At highway speeds, yeah, it's loud. At least people see me now.
Loud pipes make people look!
I went with bassani's new road rage short "ripper" 2-1 stainless steel exhaust on my 2020 softail standard. Man sound clips don't do it justice, when you give it the beans it screams, and it sounds really unique. It's not too loud when cruising which is perfect for me as well. Had vance & Hines big radius on my 2019 iron 1200, they sounded great but after like an hour my ears were ringing
Bassani makes a damn good exhaust, I'm gonna have to check that new one out you have.
@@GixxerFoo there aren't many videos of it, put miles on it has a video on it but like i said videos don't do it justice. I know on get lowered cycles RUclips channel they have sound clips and dyno charts for it btw
Thanks
Great Info! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you! 😎
You're welcome!
Very informative video I myself run a set of Vance & Hines true duals with a set of CVO 2016 takeoffs on my twin cam 95 with 203 SE cams. 👍
That's a very nice setup for a touring bike, that quieter exhaust really is nice running down the highway for miles!
It was a bit quiet at first but I think the muffler's have blown out some fiberglass and now they have just enough rumble for me and the flow nice at wide open throttle. Of course I had to detune my Powercomander but I love how it cruise's on the highway.
HPI inc 2 into 1..... best sound, performance and shes a nice lookin pipe too. Great video, well done.
Much appreciated! HPI is a damn good looking and performing system.
Great video my friend !
Thank you! I really appreciate the support!
Great video
Thanks!
Supertrapp two into one. Awesome system many adjustments with shims to tune your bike for performance.
👍😎🇦🇺
Supertrapp makes a killer exhaust, you don't them much anymore sadly.
Nice video. Had to get rid of that cat in my ultra. Went with Rienhart love em
Good choice! I bet the ride is a lot cooler now without that cat in there!
Exactly; my knowledge and opinion the same -
Crossover a must ; I love 2:2 sound & looks .
My hooker step headers 2:2 no crossover . Fighting that now . My fav is dyna factory headpipes with crossover and Vance & hines slip ons .
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Thanks... Now I know my system. Bought 2008 Ultra glide anniversary edition. Bike came with 3.5" Python slash cut/scalloped slip-on mufflers...Fuelpak (First version)...Python dual header pipes without cross over and sounds real good. Vanes&Hines stage 1 washable, non oiled air filter.
Python makes an awesome system, they run really good when you get some air in and out of those bikes.
@@GixxerFoo Again, Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Glad you’re doing well 👍
Thank you! Much better now!
I bought my 2012 Road King about 4 yrs ago and it still had the stock head pipe on it along with some V&H twin slash rounds installed by the previous owner. Once I got it I took off the stock head pipe and put on a Cobra power dual head pipe with the slash rounds. Ran it that way for awhile and decided I wanted to try V&H true duals. Then decided I wanted to put on the mufflers of my choice and first went with DNA Megaphones. After about 4 rides decided they weren't for me, just to obnoxious for my taste, luckily they were cheap...lol. Just put on a set of Cobra Neighbor haters, which was actually my first choice, remapped with my FP3 and......I love them....this is the way a harley should sound and it has good power for a Stage 1 engine. I think the debate is finally over me...at least my wallet is hoping it is...lol
Rinehart pipes are my favorite
Very informative👍🏼
Thank you! I hope it was helpful!
Great video!
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Great information Thx.
Glad it was helpful!
Screamin seagull 16 gauge double barrel are my favourite. I have them on my night train.
You've got some of the Screamin Eagle exhaust from when they were a real performance exhaust, not they have cats and they aren't much over stock. Better than stock but not all out performance like they once were.
Really helpful as usual. I was going to go for Vance and Hines chrome short shots but after watching this video I think I'll go for Cobra 2 into 1 El Diablo in chrome👍
The short shot look awesome, but they aren't great for power. Now the Cobra on the other hand, it looks good, sounds good and makes power!
@@GixxerFoo indeed👍
@@GixxerFoo I have a 03 heritage softail....what do you think about the Vance & Hines bigshot staggered exhaust system?
Love the Vance and Hines pro pipe 2 into 1 on my road glide touring bike. Pulls down low all the way up top
I do like the look and sound of the pro pipe 👍, great exhaust for good torque!
@@GixxerFoo it sure is. I wanted the d&d but the price hurt my feelings
Recent, I did 4.5 slip on and tried bassani crossover block off, torque was better but I found oem 2 slip on was better overall , then added dk torque insert on right and extra backpressure smoothed accel thru entire curve! For warranty i kept oem head pipe w cat!
For me I can swap exhaust and run it all day long on the dyno and get the best numbers, but when you have your butt in the seat the feel doesn't match the graph. Feel, look and sound of the bike is where it counts!
Most of the time, customers chose exhaust systems on based on price , style/looks and sound/volume. Some flat out ask for whatever is LOUDEST. For better or worse, the cheapest ones are often the loudest. And then they don't want to spend anything on tuning.
For touring bikes , I like the V&H Tru-Duals. I've never had another system install as easy. It takes longer to take a stock system off!
That's very true! The loudest exhaust system doesn't mean it performs well!
Currently running Cobra staggered old-school-look on my evo and the sound is fantastic......with baffles!
Cheers Gix
Very nice! Those gotta sound really good on an Evo!
I like what you said about the factory headpipes. My 08 Eglide did very well with Rinehart slip-ons. The I put a true dual (no crosspipe) and lost a lot of power! Huge mistake! I'm a 2-1 guy all the way!
I don't know what u guys are talking about , but it appears awesome 😎
I try to keep all the engineering out of it lol!
I love your takes here, tantalizingly quazi-judgemental.
As usual.
And that's a good thing.
You always keep your opinions present, but they're just icing on the big fact cakes you like to bake for us.
Keep doing what you're doing Foo. 👍
PS - I have corresponded with you on this, so I know your take. At least on my '09 Fat Bob. I appreciate the time you took to reply. Still running V&H Short Shots Staggered. They just sound so good...
They are some good sounding and looking exhaust! I really like the look and sound of those myself.
@@GixxerFoo Thanks. And I agree completely. That's why I'm still riding the fence about switching over to a 2 into 1 - even though I'm leaving some HP and torque on the table...