Streamlight Protac Rail Mount 1&2- Review
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For the budget minded I still see them work well. Arisaka tailcap adapter allows use of all surefire switches and end caps plus it claims to eliminate the on off.. Also a switch mount that eliminates the cheap rubber pieces. You get the lights for 80$, the tailcap adapter for 60$ and switch mount for 30$. These seem to address a lot of the issues. I've never seen the glass issue but I doubt anyone in my circle is doing the round counts you are. If you're a professional it's prolly not your best choice but for the average guy I think they're more than sufficient. Way better than the o lights that I see so many using. Thanks for the honesty and as always, great review.
I always appreciate people who review things after using them. I hate watching videos of people saying "it's a great light" after just mounting the light. Great video man. Thanks.
Arisaka fixes all of this with their tailcap adapter that interfaces with a surefire tape switches. Fix a flickering, the electronics, and the light dying situation for pretty cheap.
Never been a fan of pressure switches. I've had a simple surefire g2x on my Sam7sf for 4 years and several classes and still works fine for now.
Word 👍
What is the red dot and mount?
So, I’m not the only one who uses the humble G2X. Nice.
@@sevenpointsixtwo9707 indeed. Though it’s no longer on my SAM7. Got recently replaced by a surefire scout. But it is now a backup and will be put on a future project. G2X is still a great light
ok.... i had to pause at like 1:30 because i just noticed your shirt....
mad props!!! HAHA
Your always my final stop on product reviews. You actually run the shit out of your gear and don't sugar coat and b.s. about the quality just because it's a certain brand. Thank you, you've broke the mold of about 99% of the guntuber's that give everything they touch a glowing review.
I always appreciate your reviews Chris. Being Canadian, our access to certain types of firearms are limited, and the reviews of the aforementioned are consistently lacking (I swear to God, I see so many "out of the box" reviews with no follow up it is aggravating) but our access to lights and red dots are pretty on par (as on par as it can be) when it comes to variety of manufacturers. I consistently find myself coming back to this channel as the final word on a given product before I put my money into anything because you're one of the only people on this platform that truly puts these things to work. Thanks for consistently keeping your honesty and high-standard of quality amongst these reviews.
I've switched all mine using the Arisaka tail switch adaptor to use the Modbutton
Arisaka makes a tailcap so that you can use Surefire tailcaps but by the time you get all that stuff, you could of just got a Arisaka light or a Surefire.
It might be a option for people that already have the Streamlights though.
Good review, this needed to be said.
unspoken secret: its okay to swap stuff around. everybody does it.
i find a lot of people under the impression they have to have dedicated this or that for every pistol or rifle and thats not the case. we are all on budgets.
a qd mount with a quality light for example is worth 3 protac's.
rainier arms has some elzettas on clearance prices right now and i think theres some haley/iwc mounts on sale too.
ill take the x300 off my glock 17 and put it on my ar without shame. ive even had to go harries technique with a rifle. im a very big fan of the surefire e series.
i think i sold 3 tlr-1 to get an x300. still have a tlr-1hl currently on an ak
If you put a Streamlight on a PSA rifle, China will cancel the Olympics. Seriously, I agree with your review. The switch and electronics are the weakness.
Cloud defensive switch mount is expensive but high quality
Odd question, but have you tried fitting the batteries in the light with an O-Ring?
Talked to a few people and that seems to fix the flickering under recoil issue. That and the Arisaka tailcap adapter seem to make it a much better light.
I'm saving my pennies for an Arisaka light personally to replace a different light on my rifle now.
The real question is where did you get that shirt?
Forget the protac, I’ve been running a stream light strion in a 1 inch rail mount for 10 years and never had issues or had to replace the battery. It’s heavy, but so are tanks and they can take a beating. You do lose a little tacticool edge, using a push button tail cap and all but if it works and never fails then it’s worth it. Plus the strion HL can run 2 hours on 600 lumens. Also it does have a proprietary battery but it can be done with its own chargers, and that may be why it works better idk.
Chris, constantly showing how to slay with mid tier setups. Love it
Man! What timing.
Been shopping around for a light. I know I rather buy the modlite. Kept talking myself out of it and just go with the streamlight.
Went up to my local gun shop after calling them prior and being told they had three protacs. Got there a few hours later and they had all been sold. Working in another city today, was about to head over and try another gun store to see if they had a steam light. Glad I checked out RUclips after work.
Thanks Chris. I know what I should bought in the first place
I've had good luck with streamlight for pistol lights but horrible for the rail mount lights. A great option is arisaka with a malkoff head. Those have been fantastic and are on par with the modlite
@@collinjones311 i can second that
my malkoff heads are the single mode 325 otf lumen but they get down and ive had them over 5 years.
i always HAVE to have a surefire e series on me as its my favorite light so i carry and use the malkoff heads daily with a 16650 rechargeable and swap tailcaps from time to time from click to twisty
@@jacobmanalang8162 I have the malkoff e2xtl which is a dual fuel That has 500 lumen and 55k candela. It has a massive throw but is bright enough with just enough flood to work indoors well as well. I prefer my modlite okw DF a little more, 680 lumens but has 69k candela so it also has a massive throw but has more flood so it is more conducive to indoors and indoor open spaces as well. Fantastic options, both hold up very well. The surefire m600 scouts are garbage in comparison. Double the lumen output, but that doesn't translate into much because the candela is much lower so it has alot of flood without much reach.
So far using two zip ties has held down the pressure pad. No tape goo or mess
After years of buying "good enough" lights, I just said fuck it and put Modlites on all my rifles and called it a day.
Tighten up your skirt, buy the HL-X + Cloud Defensive tape switch mount + Arisaka light mount and enjoy! I've had zero issues with the HL-X 1000 lumens / 27,600 candela, there is no prefect light, they all break, even surefire!
Same thought here, pressure pad is known to be sub par. Have not had an issue with 3 hlx and on rail mount 1. No it’s not a cloud defensive/modlight, and no I’m not abnormally hard on my lights, but I have been very happy with the hlx.
This is my setup. Still more affordable and eliminates the terminal disconnect issue and the poor tape switch issue. Modlite button and Unity hot button are both great. Duly noted on the glass lens and blast issues though. I don't ride my lights next to the muzzle without a deflector or silencer anyway.
Chris why don't you run silencers more often? Also test Cloud Defensive. Fixes the Streamlight and Surefire problems.
+1 for Cloud Defense switch rail mounts.
Beats in my parts and dries out my components more.
Plus shot groups open up quickly due to heat.
It's kind of a pain in the ass when a can lives there so I space it out.
Wish me luck, putting one of these on a Benelli M4. Not mounted anywhere near a muzzle device and not using the pressure pad, so hopefully I'm good to go.
I got the 625 strapped to a x39 shorty and no flickering 🤷♂️
They may not be the best but they beat the hell out of the Surefire M600 DF. I bought several for various rifles and they all failed, multiple times. Funny that you went through 7 Streamlight Protacs because I went through 7 M600 DF’s. Every single one had output issues. Two completely failed in less than 150 rounds. Surefires customer service was good but their products sucked. I’d be interested how many of your Protacs would fail if you used an Arisaka tailcap adapter with a ModButton lite. I’m on to Modlite now, and they’ve been WAY better than the garbage M600 DF’s.
@Random Pickle never used an M300. It’s specifically the M600 Dual Fuel. They’re known to be big problems. Other models supposedly aren’t affected but that was my first experience with SureFire and it was a $600 bad experience, which is why I now use Modlite.
im a sucker for a malkoff/arisaka build
My M600 DF, as well as a friend's, have had output issues using the supplied Surefire 18650 battery. My particular M600 DF functions properly using two (2) CR123 lithium batteries... thus far. For the money paid, it's a downer.
@@bobrowley4346 very disappointing. i would say try some other button top 18650's like sony or panasonic.
a lot of brands buy them and rewrap them with their name on it.
i have some flat top panasonic 18650s but they dont make enough connection in all lights.
keeppower or even olight would be worth trying as well.
ive ordered from orbtronic and illumn before
@@jacobmanalang8162 I believe Surefire’s batteries are made by a Panasonic.
LoL . I have 2 of these on personal carbine's in Cloud mounts . My duty carbine has a very old M95 with bulb upgrade with SF tape switch in Cloud mount. I truly appreciate your review and your doing the leg work . We're issued the tlr1hl and I actually prefer the tlr1 over my x300u b . Great videos brother and I really hope to get to a class with you . Love from Tampa ♥️
I need that shirt
Waiting on my surefire 600df 1st surefire. Most experience is with olights on rifles and streamlights on handguns. Had 1 olight take a shat on me was a newer model and died for no reason, never even mounted it. Had another for 10 years and no problems. Hope the surefire treats me right. God bless
I got my wife a Fenix PD something that shit the bed just from riding around in her bag. It got limited use and was far from abused. Needless to say we weren't happy. Other than Surefire, who makes quality robust lights? I've heard good things about but have no experience with Cloud Defensive, Arisaka, and Modlite.
ive got malkoff (OEM for Arisaka heads.) drop in LED conversions in my older surefires. solid brass heatsink just feels tough.
rainier arms has some deals on elzetta right now
If you have one of these get the Arisaka tailcap adapter and use a ModButton Lite. If you have a M600 DF, throw it in the garbage.
1000 rounds a day. Per rifle. 😂
Or between four guys. 😂
Are there any brands that you consider the jury to be out on? I’m wondering about Powertac in particular.
Sure fire and Mod lights do the same i found tape works around the hole light really well tape the light before you mount it
The problem I've had with one of my ProTac Rail Mount 1s has been on my Maadi, mounted with a GG&G offset on an Ultimak. The issue began somewhere around/above 3k rounds where after firing a round the light would shut off, and have to be clicked back on (tailcap activation). I suspected, and was correct, that the CR123 battery was jumping off the terminals inside the light body. Using a AA battery it doesn't have any issue but, now it's only a 150 lumen light.
Is that the video game "Doom" Theme in the background at the intro? lol
I have had the complete opposite experience. Now I only have two but one I have taken through two classes and my other only has around 800 rounds with it so to early to tell with that one. But the rubber mounts definitely suck so I have both mine taped down.
Same here. I owned three and they all sucked. Took two to valor ridge and they died during the night fire portion.
Love a mailbox in a thumbnail
God bless brother.
Gotta use the cloud defense LcS for those IF you’re not running Modlite, arisaka, CD or surefire.
I left one of these in my trunk over the weekend while camping the temperature was 15-20 and it died
what kind of battery?
@@RememberPele stream light battery.. I got it 2 months before this happened
Maybe you'll cover this in the optic review, but what's the reason for running the cantilever mount backwards? From what I've seen, most people use those to get the optic farther forward.
It's because it's not a regular red dot but a prism
Eye box.
I just picked up one and it's heading back to Streamlight, had really bad flickering when just racking the charging handle or dropping the bolt. The pressure switch wires started to show really bad and at times the light wouldn't even turn on when using the pressure switch. So not too impressed. I got an Odin mini on my Ak, that has been beating the hell out of and I've had no issues at all from it, so wondering if I should have gotten one of those again.
I had the same issue. It worked with the click cap tho what about yours
id love a report on the olights! ive got a few in rotation but just laying around the house. nothing tested
thanks Chris
Pressure pads suck for the most part. They are another way to increase. The chances of a white light AD.
E er coming near jax?
military around the world do use protacs. that video of the un guys in central africa are all using streamlight protac wml
Let me re phrase
Relevant military
@@Regular_Guy_Training_LLC hahaha i like that way of looking at it
Good info. you have gathered from multiple folks and classes. Have you thought of trying out cloud defensive?
I've seen it work well and that some the switch issue..... but then the lights themselves die
0 no problems with my Streamlisght in ARs and pistols
now we gotta get you sent out a Zbolt or weltool
I experienced all those same issues. My buddy got me an inforce tac light and I currently run that on my AK. Seems to be holding up fine. Do you have any experience with the inforce lights?
I have one on my zpap92 that has held up thru 2k or so rounds. It’s held up good. It’s just my truck/ backpack gun so it’s not seen any hard use.
The other lights cost a lot more than the streamlight I'd expect some of that over thousands and thousands of rounds and no tape
Link that shirt please!
I only put these on my PCCs specifically chambered in 9mm.
Mine died on me too in a middle of a class
Unfortunately their rifle lights are Chinese-made while their pistol lights are USA-made. The difference is noticeable.
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Not first woooo
Peace
sounds like these are junk.