Who Makes The Best (Budget) Rifle lights?
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I have more Streamlights than any other. They are hands down best bang for the buck. Though I'm not a fan of the proprietary battery on their new HLX 2.0 so I'll never be using those.
Something that wasn't mentioned I wanted to bring up, is if you're wanting to use a pressure pad that requires the surefire style connection, don't be discouraged if you have a streamlight. Arisaka makes a tailcap adapter that will allow you to use any of the plethora of aftermarket and surefire branded pressure pads.
Playing Mass Effect music, eh? A man of culture I presume.
My HLXs have universally had short lived pressure switches...I love the cloud defensives but they're ridiculously expensive and the proprietary switch is sturdy, but kind of uncomfortable.
...And then my cheap $98 OLIGHT Javelot goes and beats both the Rein 1.0 and 2.0 in throw. It was depessing.
Worth mentioning that new production, "original" ProTac Rail Mount HL-X's (i.e., standard or remote-only tailcap and momentary or constant pressure pad) have also been the beneficiary of the emitter upgrade ;)
Really? nice.
solid
When did that take place?
@@12monkey57 A few months ago
I noticed this on a streamlight tlr-1 hl that I purchased recently. In the reviews I have seen, the light looks warm. However, now the light is a cool, bright led.
Options are nice. Thanks for the share!!
You bet
Been hearing the goonbeam name for a while now. A Focus Tripp review would be great.
Got one on order
Goonbeam is allegedly just rebranded cheap lights. Their Assault hand held appears to be an XT35, not a bad light but shouldn’t be marked up by $100
Prefer the Arisaka for about $100 more 😊
But I still Rock my streamlights on my budget “builds” 😅
There are so many options out there for lights. Thanks for making the best video ive seen so far. The hlx pro seems to check all the boxes for me.
Picked up two of the hlx pros recently. Same results compared to my old hlx. Noticeably better and I like the new tail cap
Is there a link to the streamlight jackcap? I would like to get one for my protac railmount, I just recently got the hl-x pro, I have yet to test it
simply put "Streamlight ProTac HL-X Jack Cap Tail Cap" into your favorite browser.
Streamlight has been my go-to WML for pretty much everything. I recently started messing around with LEP lights, which give really high candella, I am generally most interested in shooting longer ranges in low light, I've got a Zbolt, as well as a few olight valkyrie turbos. Nightstick is another newer brand, however most of their offerings are within a few dollars of the Streamlight offerings, not a compelling reason to change.
It’s fine on a not hard use weapon , but if my ass was on the line id go mod or Surefire . Surefire is what I used in Afghanistan and it’s pretty much bomb proof .
LEP technology in weapon lights has come a long way.
I haven't finished watching the video, so maybe you mentioned it, but can you put the tailcap for the HLX Pro on the older HLX?
They have the HLX Jack cap now that goes on the older HLXs that will give them the updated functionality.
Love the mass effect 3 star chart song in background of this video lol
I have the pro tac on my rifle with the pressure pad, and my biggest problem is that quite often, if I don't twist the cord running from the pad to the light it won't activate the light.
That is an issue I have run into as well.
@FocusTripp if I could find the push button that also came with it, I would switch it to the push button, but unfortunately, I don't remember where I put it but I eventually plan on upgrading to either surefire, mod light, or cloud defense once I can come off the funds to afford either one of those lights.
I’ve had my SL hlx rail mount for a good while (3-4 years i think) and the only thing I’ve broken on it is the lens. To be fair i don’t do a lot of night shooting and only use the switch when i dry fire in the garage or actually get to shoot at night. I’d say most people are in the same boat as me though so it’s probably more than good enough for most.
I’m excited for the new holosun rifle light would love to see it vs the new streamlight light.
If I can get it I will.
I use streamlights daily at work. I’ve yet to actually break one.
I have two different M600DF's, with the SR07 pressure pads, and both suck ass. Giant spill, not great range, the lights have an intermittent issue where they turn on bright then quickly flicker down to barely visible. But only sometimes. All of that plus the damn price, yeah my HLX's have had no issues.
Maybe SF's pistol lights are better but at this point I'm not even going to try them.
Focus your one of the few channels I get excited to get a notification for . Thank you for your honesty.
Thanks man!
Question I have been pondering: If budget is NOT a concern, do you still go Streamlight? I have had to send one Cloud Defensive back, 1 Surefire DF, never an issue with probably 10-12 streamlights I have owned over the years.
If you have all the money in the world I think you go SF, CD, or someone else.
The Arisaka 300 and 600 series with the Malkoff hyper throw v2 head is the best bang for buck light on the market. And made in the USA.
Love them.
Whenever I go on their site to get a light they're always out of stock.
No its not, they are completely outclassed by streamlights. I hate to admit this because I've bought multiple arisaka heads for my 300 series (including the one you listed) and the HLX and even protac 2 straight up outperform them even in terms of range where i thought the hyperthrow would excel. I get that it's 1 cell vs 2 in this case but i promise you that the arisaka is lacking side by side
Does the HLX pro fix the flickering issues the original HLX had?
Streamlight is gold standard of lights that aren’t Surefire.
I have 2 of the HLX pro’s , they have been great!
Good to hear.
The HLX light can be made better with the Arisaka adapter that lets you use Surefire pressure switches.
I had one that didn't work all that great.
@@FocusTripp can you elaborate? I’ve got the two hl-x’s with the Arisaka to Surefire pressure pad adapter. Wondering if those adapters would still work with the hl-x pro if I upgraded.
That sounds like Mass effect music in the background
Do the new HLX Pro's have the flicker issue the old railmounts have? I have a couple of railmount 2's that I've had to o-ring mod, was thinking about grabbing one of the new pros, if not an AWLS.
I never really had those issues.
Can you do a flicker test video? Every single streamlight HLX and Protac2 that I own (unfortunately I have like 4 of each) has a flicker issue when firing with it on, or just releasing the bolt and letting it hit home. I'd love to see if the new HLX Pro model has a flicker issue like the others. Please do a comparison.
Hoping you'll see this if you stretch out the spring on the tail cap just a little bit it should eliminate that issue. Running an older HLX on 2 different 12 gouges it doesn't flicker.
Bruh, is the melody in the back ground from mass effect?
😢 I sacrified myself at the end of the game for everyone else.... I miss my space crew.
Yes, and based.
Cheers for the sacrifice Brother!
I can't quite tell, but is that the Mass Effect 2 planet farming music in the background?
Galaxy map theme sir.
Good video man
Appreciate it
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I like when i call streamlight to warranty a light, they don't hesitate to get your address and ship me replacement parts.
That's nice.
That's the issue with Candela (CD) and lumens (LM) in general. 1cd = 1lm / sr. This is not a favorable equation for flashlights if you want to still have a usable area of spill and floor. This is because, sr = steradian (square radian, one square radian of a general sphere can be calculated using an equation A = r², with r representing the radius of a sphere.). And this is also not really that favorable for physics either. What ends up happening is that you need almost 4x the candela to 'double' the visible throw. So what you need to do then is greatly decrease the size of the illuminated area, and that means greatly reducing the flood and spill. And so the reason the AWLS doesn't really seem that much brighter at longer distances is because it's not really gonna make a big difference compared to the latest 50,000 candela streamlights. A like with 100,000 candela isn't twice as bright at longer ranges, it's more more like 36% brighter
That's a little too much math for me.
Better question
Who’s the best commie coast RUclipsr?
WA, OR, CA
Yeah stop “tripp”n and focus on the commie coast.
I don't live there bro.
What do you think about Goonbeam? Seems like they buy the same bodies and many of the same parts as streamlight, but then they change out the emitters and some other minor design differences to improve performance, including better spring in the tail cap, better potting on the inside, etc. They are bright as hell
I think it's Ali Express parts with a good head.
Surefire makes the best budget light.
If only they made the HLX Pro in FDE.
Maybe a Opmod version, or just paint them.
@@FocusTripp im just gonna end up rattle canning one, its for a cheapo PSA build that im trying to keep under $800 with light and optic but also match the FDE furniture and SLX 1x i already have on it.
@@1312020m👍 #Thatscoolnowspraypaintit
Definitely love my HL-X Pro. Best bang for the buck
Good review. I was installing a Streamlight ProTac on a 300 BLK pistol while watching the review. It wasn't until I was installing batteries that I realized the irony.
Opinions on the goonbeam options?
None, have one on order though.
Streamlight
Great review. P.s. i really like your wedding band
Solid tungsten.
Great review!!! Gotta love Streamlight!!!
GNARLEY. Impressed with the beam shining into cabin of vehicle with beams on you. Thanks as always Brother!! Cheers!
-Godspeed
Im a big supporter of the weltool lights their inexpensive and run off surefire parts
Never heard of them till now.
@@FocusTripp should've sent it out with the upper
Check them out they have a lot of potential & modularity especially the IR offerings
I have the w65 bodies with the lh8 and lh1 heads. I bought used ue tail caps with tape switches. Been very happy with them thus far.
Keep in mind the batteries they are using, the rechargeable ones die verry fast in relaly cold and hot weather, even tho they are more powerful, and after they are death you are out of luck!! They can die within 5 min, completely death! As for the alkalines ones like cr123 ams so on, they will last much longer, down to minus 20 you still can use them, and when they are death you juat swap them, when you cant so that with the other ones, or you might, but a battery is like 25$ each and then in 5 kin dies from the extreme variations of temps. Why do you think the SF people dont use rechargeable ones?
That can be an issue for some people. Most people aren't operating in super cold temps. In this video is was below freezing and none of my lights had an issue. The can also use CR123s as a backup so no issue.
The HLX Pro has been on sale at PA for about $120
I didnt even know there were other viable budget options other than streamlight. Thanks for the video!
Love the background music! Takes me back to the normandy
Is the clicky tailcap from the old gen HL-X forwards-compatible with the new gen HL-X pro? As in, can be threaded on and activate the light? I'm primarily a tailcap user so I'd like to keep the increased surface area from the old gen tailcap.
I don't think so, but not sure.
Are we gonna see a swampfox tomahawk 2 1-4x vs trijicon tr24 accupoint 1-4x in the near future?
If the 1x is as good as advertised, it would be amazing with the sub 400 dollar price.
Possibly. If I can get one I will review it.
Does the jack cap take industry standard crane plugs? Ie unity/modbutton surefire tape switches?
pretty sure it's just streamlight switches.
Damn all these names are confusing. I have the 27,000 candela HLX and it’s awesome for where I live
I know.
Gotta say i really like my HLX Pro so far…
good to hear.
I picked up a fake surefire scout for 30. Its been great so far and no one can tell the difference from 5 feet away. Even made a video
Lol, nice
@@FocusTripp its really bright. Brighter than the Pb3 pandoras future
Would the HL-X Pro be useable further out? say 200-250 yards?
Almost no light is at those sorts of ranges in real conditions.
I like the video, I really wished you included more brands though. Olight, Army Tek etc
I included what I have
I have and occasionally run the Olight odin and odin mini, in comparison the olights are convenient for rechargeability, get hot more rapidly with less options, and perform less adequately when beaming into other light sources. I don't regret the Olights but would not recommend one for a rifle. The Streamlights are as the man said "The Best Budget Option Available on the Market." Hope this helps, cheers Brother!!
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@@milesrost6674the Odin is not their best weapon light (yet). The Javelot Tac is better for a rifle, and the Warrior X4 with tape switch and mount is even better. The X4 can be magnetically charged, or via USB-C, and will even charge from USB while in use. The X4 has some serious throw and flood at the same time.
Indeed, I was addressing Supa's question with similar value lights from the brand I've used in the North Woods of Wisconsin where over 100 yrds of throw is a rarity. Thanks for the info, I appreciate ya'. Cheers. - Godspeed @@chevrofreak
Great video as always 👍. Was unsubbed again.
Well, welcome back!
I've found my way back more than once. It's just simply ridiculous. I have to go thru my sub list, and guess who is missing. On the plus side, it does keep my mind sharp 😃
No monstrum arcsaber light?
I might try it out.
@FocusTripp I got one because my protac2.0 flickers when I tap it.
The arcsaber comes with adjustable hinge for awesome rail fit, and a pressure pad in the box. And the price is under 70$ iys mind blowing 🤯 it also has recoil protection that prevents recoil from turning it on or off while you shoot. Mine is on a 308 Armalite tac16 and has never flickered or failed so far (still testing) and it has a rechargeable battery 🔋 that can be swapped for another one in the field. You can also use it with a power bank to charge monstrum batteries up and use them in other devices in a pinch. Honestly it looks like a grand slam to me so far. I'm replacing all my lights with these if it holds up to all my testing.
@@mobilegamersunite I might check it out
Do you know how many amps the HL-X pro needs? I assume it's not too high since they're still using the old B26 battery, but it's not listed anywhere.
If I were to buy the new HLX I'd get the cheaper CR123 SKU and throw a Nitecore NL1836R in it. Adds 1000 MAH of capacity over the B26 and has USB-C instead of the ancient Micro USB.
I don't know. Interesting, I may have to check those batteries out.
Good tip
Have you looked at all into the offerings from Tacticon Armament? I have their BattleTorch V3 on my training rifle and it seems pretty decent.
(Granted, I have not stress tested it or had any other lights on hand to compare it to. My opinion basically doesn't count in that regard 😂)
Not yet.
I also have the Tacticon Battle torch v3, also on a training rifle, and I've never had any problems with it. Granted, like you, its never been "stress tested". It's been used in training, rain, sleet, snow, from 100° days to below zero°, tossed around on the bench, back of the car, its (unintentionally) fallen to the ground and met the sand on the range, but I've never had an issue. Good, cheap, reliable, illumination👍🏻
Both of mine have issues flickering when firing and dry firing. They just blink off for a millisecond. Not a big deal but kinda annoying and I wish I knew why it was happening
Check that the cap is tight and try it with a couple different batteries
@@FocusTripp cap is cranked. I’ll try a new battery though
I just got the hlx pro and its fantastic, especially for the price.
Glad to hear.
If Goonbeam isn't in the discussion, it's not complete. My Goonbeam Long V1 overpowers my Modlite OKW.
PS. For those curious Goonbeam does more than just use a Streamlight body, I have emailed them and they are definitely flashlight nerds. They also make handhelds.
I should add that the Valhalla Tactical PDG head seems pretty interesting.
I just heard about them now so I will have to get one for review.
Love the v2. They have 2 models - a candela focused model, and a lumen focused model. I still need to do a side by side with the streamlight, but I think I actually prefer the Goon Beam.
I just bought the candela version.
@@D3IVIO7V Candela model is a thrower. I've tested it against all the big names and it hangs.
I've seen way too many problems with Goonbeams to consider them seriously.
Like a comparison to the Goonbeam v1 long.
I got it on order.
1st
For the algorithm
The proprietary battery on the HLX Pro is a complete non-starter for me. Their website says it will accept 2 CR123 as well, so I wonder if it will take a standard 18650?
It takes all batteries I have tried. It's not an issue
Nice.
@@FocusTrippI've wondered if regular 18650s would still work. Their B26 doesn't look like its any longer non-USB rechargeables.
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Love my SL HLX
WELTOOL
Get some!!!
Goon beam?
They look like the exact same body.
@@FocusTrippI’ve heard they are more candela than the corresponding Streamlight. A review by you would be greatly appreciated.
Yes, they use the same body, but you need to email and talk with them a bit. They change reflectors and emitters among other things. My Short V1 has better switches than my TLR1, and my Long V1 is hotter than my Modlite OKW, albeit a bit colder in terms of CRI.@FocusTripp
Goon beam is far greater than Streamlight.
I will have to get one on order.
I really like my RM1 for HD.
That's the smallest light they offer, correct?
@FocusTripp I think so. I would probably choose the RM2 instead. I was torn between the RMs and the TLR. Caught the RM on sale. It is great for a small light. I wouldn't go to war with it, but it is lightweight and easy to use for a HD gun light.
This guy just spoils the video with the thumbnail.
Is that good or bad?
Streamlight sucks! You get what you pay for with Streamlight HLX Protac. I bought two of them, and 1 basically broke under minimal use within a few months. I'd rather buy a Surefire G2X tactical, even with just a push button.
Been a fan of Streamlight for many years,as you stated"best bang for your buck",I am very much interested in the new Holosun light that works in conjunction w/their Iris laser/IR illuminator. If what i've seen is correct,the laser/IR illuminator & the light are separate,both mount to your rifle,& have a switch to plug into both units,& both can be bought together for about $900/1000,which to me is fairly reasonable for a laser/IR illuminator & light. I also under stand they can be bought separately.
I will hopefully be taking a look at them.
You ever tried the Olight Javelot Tac?
Every olight I have bought has broke the mount
@@FocusTripp 😂😂 I changed my mount.