Laser Aiming Module Tier List
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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1:15 ZenitCo Perst-3,
2:49 ZenitCo Perst-4,
3:22 USNV Designate IR-V,
4:14 Streamlight TLR-VIR II,
5:45 3EIR Vulcan IR-V,
7:50 SureFire XVL2-IRC,
8:55 SureFire X400 Ultra,
10:09 B.E. Meyers MAWL-C1+,
12:50 Wilcox RAID Xe,
14:40 Holosun 221/321/420
16:14 DI Optical HLAD-3G
16:40 L3Harris/EOTech ATPIAL PEQ-15, PEQ-2A, Steiner DBAL-A2 (full power versions)
19:38 L3Harris ATPIAL-C
20:09 Steiner DBAL-I2 & DBAL-A3
21:12 Steiner DBAL-D2
22:22 Steiner DBAL-A4
22:53 Phantom Hill CTF-2
24:07 Laserspeed (Chinese manufacture)
24:41 SomoGear PEQ-15 (full power)
25:06 Separate IR illuminator & laser (B.E. Meyers Kiji or SureFire Vampire with Holosun LS117, Steiner OTAL-C, etc.)
27:29 EOTech OGL (low power)
27:50 Tier List 2
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I don't even own NV but I'm here for the whole 45 minutes.
one of these timestamps is not like the other
I keep buying guns that cost half as much as decent NV. If I'd just stop buying more guns I could get some but I just feel like I'd never really get to use it.
Which is a dumbass take on my part. The night vision would be invaluable whenever things really kick off and a well sorted PSA is equally as lethal as a Gucci AR.
It do be that way...
Ditto
Same. I’m not gonna lie I’ve thought about going to food banks and soup kitchens to save enough coin to buy all the shit I need for nv. I figure the homeless need it more than I need NV 😢
You and hop teaming up and doing tier lists for every piece of equipment would be perfect.
YES.
Seriously. Anything from plate carriers to ear pro to lpvos, anything you guys have experience with
Anything else? A lot of things don't make sense imo.
The only other ones would be lpvos and maybe WML's
@@BrassFacts1x sights.
@@BrassFacts energy/protein/nutrition bars I remember Hop once rambling about Luna bars if I remember correctly.
For convenience,
1:15 ZenitCo Perst-3,
2:49 ZenitCo Perst-4,
3:22 USNV Designate IR-V,
4:14 Streamlight TLR-VIR II,
5:45 3EIR Vulcan IR-V,
7:50 SureFire XVL2-IRC,
8:55 SureFire X400 Ultra,
10:09 B.E. Meyers MAWL-C1+,
12:50 Wilcox RAID Xe,
14:40 Holosun 221/321/420
16:14 DI Optical HLAD-3G
16:40 L3Harris/EOTech ATPIAL PEQ-15, PEQ-2A, Steiner DBAL-A2 (full power versions)
19:38 L3Harris ATPIAL-C
20:09 Steiner DBAL-I2 & DBAL-A3
21:12 Steiner DBAL-D2
22:22 Steiner DBAL-A4
22:53 Phantom Hill CTF-2
24:07 Laserspeed (Chinese manufacture)
24:41 SomoGear PEQ-15 (full power)
25:06 Separate IR illuminator & laser (B.E. Meyers Kiji or SureFire Vampire with Holosun LS117, Steiner OTAL-C, etc.)
27:29 EOTech OGL (low power)
Feel free to correct if I made a mistake
Thanks man! I added it to the video.
THANK YOU
@@BrassFactsNo problem, thank you for all the great videos that you make!
I love you
Index man my hero
Ya know what? After watching this whole 45 minute night vision related video I've decided that I plan to one day consider getting NVGs and then eventually I plan to plan on considering a laser unit to go with it.
I didn't know Ben Shapiro talks about night vision
S+: Posting images of your gun with a somogear ngal and convincing people on the internet that it's totally a real one
huh? Maybe I'm misunderstanding. I've never had a still with a ngal of any kind, real or fake.
@@BrassFacts I do that. I'm him.
@@mellowroot714based
Rule #1: look cool.
6 hours left of a 9 hour drive home and this drops, perfect. Thank you
hang in there.
And it's a near perfect 45 minutes so you can watch it 8 times!
Hope you made it safe!
@@bishopm4401 Yep, just had breakfast with the wifey
This accurately represents my frustration when trying to decide which laser units to buy only to still be unhappy.
The true meaning of "buy once; cry once."
@@sliderofelay even if you go by that philosophy you still have a high chance of being dissatisfied with the laser you get. It gets even more complicated when you get into guns with little rail space or handguns.
You are helping me make "smart" purchasing decions so I dont "blow the croch out" of my budget
tbh bang for your buck its pretty hard to beat the LS321 right now
@@Fadaar I own an LS321 and I really like it, But I found the full power illuminator kind of necessary sometimes. You can find Peq2A's for about the same price, but with the downsides that come with early 00's tech and customer service. If you don't want the FP option. LS321 is awesome.
yeah i really get the "here is what you are getting for what you are spending" so you can base it off that info. you could still buy a b or c tier item, but at least you know what to expect
More of these tier lists please! It's such a great fun/informative and easy to read way of knowing what is good to go and what's not. Thank you!
That being said I'm an OTAL-C and Surefire M640V user paired using a TAPS Sync and I'm really happy with how they work in tandem. It's nice to have the IR illuminator and White Light in one package. Different use case!
Need more of these tier lists, tier lists for everything possible, tier lists galore
Hell yeah, and after a bit of time we can finally make a tier list of tier lists, can't wait!
Tier list of nv housings would be great
Genuinely tier lists really help with these kinds of products where - I - don't have a extremely great grasp of all these technical specs but they do and they show us where everything stands.
Dude, the end of this episode sums it up. The MAWL's okay but not worth 3,500-. The dbal d2 is okay i guess, but too heavy. Holosun is probably the best value, but the illuminator is too weak and they're ugly. Military peqs are cool but probably stolen, have seen hard use and are 2 grand.
Everything kinda sucks.
Was about to write out a snippy comment about how a straight up tier list is sort of obvious and doesn't help 95% of those without thousands to blow, then fast forwarded to the 'real world tier list'. Well done as always. I personally own two DBAL i2 9007 per Hop's videos on them. Can't complain as I don't really need much more at the moment.
I know the somogears are a meme but I’d like to add a story about mine. Got mine in December of last year and put around 1k-1,300 rounds down range with it. Never lost zero and I didn’t baby it. 1 week ago I went shooting in the rain, I’ve done that before with the somogear and it was fine but not this time. When I pressed on the tail switch the laser would turn on but act like I double clicked and then wouldn’t turn off unless I pressed the button on the unit. Took it home, dried it off, and now it doesn’t work with tail switches anymore. Button on the unit is fine and all other functions are working as they did. Just no more tailswitches.
I contacted somogear and I was unfortunately 10 days past the 6 month warranty period, they won’t replace it but they offered me a 40% off discount.
Annoyed but it is what it is for chinesium stuff. Might hold onto tbat 40% off for when their new ngal comes out and give that a test. Being aluminum might make it more user serviceable.
WTF
They gave me a 30% discount when I broke mine!
Haha
Better then getting a “You’re SOL.”
The best laser aiming module is the $5, laser pointer I bought at the gas station and I ziptied to my M&P-15. You don' need nothing else, brother.
How did you zero that?
Exactly. Why tf would anyone want an IR laser that you can only see with night vision when you can just buy a cheap red laser that you can see all the time?? Some people are so stupid I swear.
@dawsonw128 Because the visible laser can be seen by everyone. The IR laser can only be seen by you.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian Ya, why would you want that. Wouldn't you want everyone else to see what you're aiming at so they know where to shoot? Smh dude use your dang brain
I did this with a shotgun lol. Fit in the groove perfectly and used electric tape. It's not centered, but it's straight with the bore. At least up to 25 yards. And honestly I don't need it for a longer distance shot, I can use the sights. More for CQ and hip fire.
So excited!!!!! I need this list. I’ve got a Perst4 and LE321. I’d like a phantom hill but I’m pretty sure they don’t like selling their stuff
Peq15A definitely belongs lower on the list, max of C tier. I had both the original peq15 and peq15a’s in my arms room, about 15 examples of each. The 15a would burn out lasers randomly. I don’t think I had one that was fully functional by the end of time at that job. Every single one had at least one of the lasers burned out. To be fair they were taking a beating on government issued rifles and were already old when I got there but the original peq15 did much better. The only problems I had with the original peq 15s were cracks from asvab wavers torquing them to 100ftlbs with a leatherman, or completely shattering from major damage that also deadlined the rifle itself or the individual carrying it.
ATPIAL C with the Villains Weapons Systems IR illuminator focuser is actually pretty solid.
FEATURE LENGTH!
Also, thank you for explaining what the tiers actually mean.
The Peq2A is the size, but it also takes AA batteries, and you can focus the illuminator down to almost laser diameter. I love mine.
Extremely accurate lists. This is super accurate. Basically as a civilian:
1. Holosun LE321G for price or Dbal D2 for illuminator
2. Full power A2 Dbal if you can find one.
3. Full power peq 15 if you can find one.
4. Full power peq 2 if you can find one
5. MAWL if you’re rich.
Everything else is dogshit.
The somogear NGAL for $450 looks promising with numerous several thousand round reports mounted to a scar H. Having run the Dbal-D2 for a while although it is powerful that thing is a heavy thick brick on the end of your gun.
Both of my DIR-Vs have had 0 issues since I got them. One of them does receive a lot of banging and heat on my 556 and has been performing very well since the beginning of the year. Haven’t seen any poi shifts.
Can't believe Brass didn't mention the fact that the MAWL is so elegantly ambidextrious.
is that sarcasm?
@@BrassFacts Unironically, no. Still worse than OGL if we ever get it, but I really like how they incorporated the ambi controls on the MAWL.
Well, less ambi and more *configurable,* I should say.
@@007turtle1239 was about to say, the mawl isn't even slightly ambi. It's in fact, the least ambi LAM out there.
@@BrassFacts Ambi as in it can be configured to either a lefty or a righty. Once it's on a gun, it is not functionally ambi for the purposes of swapping shoulders. I guess I articulated that poorly.
Well, I still prefer the entire thing being configurable for lefties over the button being on the wrong side of the device body.
Of course, you could just... centre the controls. But that's hard, it seems.
Just got a DIR-V in the mail today after a 3 month wait for the new redesign. I bought based on your glowing first review. Hope it doesn’t suck. At least everything works out of the box.
Interesting that y’all’s conclusions pretty well match my own, and I’m in the market for an LS321.
Wow. Watched the entire thing and you actually convinced me to finally pickup a DBAL D2
I was the reason for the metal clamp on the DIR-V. Sent mine in initially for non-coaligned lasers and it's been fine since, he upgraded the illuminator to ~200mW too which is nice.
Seems like a cool guy just some major growing pains
I’m curious about the DIR-V but don’t want to pay a $1900 ticket to play QC lottery
@@seraph045If you have any problems with it, call John. He’s a solid dude and will make it right.
@@Yapperinos He's a cool dude for sure
@@seraph045 The unfortunate truth is that much of the NV LAM game is a gamble currently. 3EIR has fantastic customer service though, can't say the same for some of the other manufacturers named in this video.
Hello Mr. Brass Facts, did you check out the primary arms slx 3-18 in the Athena and Apollo reticle? It's the same price as the 2.5-10 with the griffin reticle. I was just wondering if the 3-18 would be a better option for an spr optic than the 2.5-10?
I appreciate the comment at the end where the best options in the Laser Module Market are Holosun and a DBAL. That being said, I love my Holosun and will buy more of them. My first laser was an OTAL-C from Steiner and it gets the job done for a decent price, but the Holosuns are better and for not much more. My go-to setup now that I can swap between guns is the Holosun LS221G and a Surefire M640V. M640V just takes a flathead screwdriver and can mount to the top rail, and the Holosun is QD. The green vis laser lets me zero it during the day.
tragically, the somogear is the only lam where you get what you pay for. everything else has frankly hilarious margins, with minor to moderate increases in build quality (thank you steiner, very cool).
I think it is just such a low quantity market that you end up basically short run cost and prototype quality.
@@sliderofelay partly, but even if I account for vscel and increased qc I find it hard the believe that any unit or more than 500-700, and that includes an absolutely silly number of man hours
@@orientalornamental
Same reason suppressors over here are $1000 but the same models are 2-300 in the EU.
@@sliderofelay some of the units are produced in the 10k (if not hundreds of thousands of units) range for mil and Le, and realistically the circuits aren't significantly different I wouldn't be surprised in the civ units have high power laser hardware but a different driver that keeps them within fda spec.
@@orientalornamental that is a lot for a cottage industry but barely enough to start lowering the cost via economy of scale.
I'm too poor for this conversation but I'm here for it
Stayed the whole way thru, thank-you, very informative. Unfortunately it's even worse for us north of the border. Our options are Somogear or Holosun.
After watching this, I'm still happy I started with an LS321. Gonna stay hopeful and believe Eotech that they are making a civi OGL. Also I'm gonna try the new aluminum body Somo NGAL when it drops.
Is the big chunky d2 in the way? Should you get some sort of riser for a Optic like lvpo ect?
New here to the laser modules. Say I don’t have a budget, what laser module would you recommend for a rifle setup & for something like the b&t tp9? As long as it is obtainable in the U.S.
Taking notes for someday in the future when I get one
HA! I just bought a LS321R and was sweating this whole time, now I feel better. :-) It's my first laser, I am just getting started out with NV, so I think I made a good choice. Good video, Thanks!
Pretty sure the XVL2 was designed as a contender for the pistol laser contract formerly held by the PEQ-14 (and currently by the Laser Max module on the M17/18). The fingertip rocker on the rear is clearly designed for use with a pistol.
How fitting, right while I’m deciding on my first IR laser purchase
I ran a PEQ-15A in Afghanistan way back in 2010. The visible laser was an odd shape though, it was like a rectangle but only if you looked at it really close. But it didn't effect the usability at all. Thanks for making this info easily accessible.
Hey I think a buddy of mine found one of those recently lol.
it had a shape lens,they have different shapes avaible.
@@derrickkolba Interesting. Any reason for that?
@@KeyboardWarrior101stuser preferences. If you get a new issued PEQ-15 the different shapes are in the soft case.
@@KeyboardWarrior101stfor certain SOPs you can have your leadership roles using a certain shape like a triangle for instance, and the 240 gunners with a crosshair shape, every else with regular dots. It helps with deconfliction of fires when on a large or complex objective with supporting fires. Your guys in your team can differentiate what you're pointing at with your laser when giving fire commands and direction, couple that with putting your laser on high mode with the illuminator on you can differentiate it even more, especially when aircraft are involved or when coordinating with other units who aren't organic to yours. Helps a lot with radio calls and link ups.
That’s cool that that particular PERST3 has a quick connect/ release.
What are the options for an "all in one" unit? It's hard to find something with dual lasers, IR illum, *AND* white light... I've only found XVL2/Holosun 420 and *OLD* DBAL A4.
What is your thoughts on using ir laser/illuminator on scar 17? Which units can withstand the 308 scar?
So I own a mawl that stays on my main rifle, and as much as I’d love to put one on all my rifles that’ll never happen, so I’ve bought 2 somogears and I honestly love them. I’ve ran them decently hard and never lost zero. It’s probably a matter of time before they do and they probably won’t last as long but for the price and the fact they’re full power I think they’re well worth it. I think it’s great for entry price and practice guns.
This is both hilarious and awesome.
What about the modlite IR heads on like a HOG body? Increases run time and maybe those heads are worth it over the surefire vampire?
What do you think about the holosunLS117 paired with a surefire vampire light instead of the Kiji?
I got an i2 for free. Im thinking of getting the surefire vampire light that is just ir/vis light to pair w it. What is your thoughts on this?
I've been running a LS117IR and a vampire and I run the tape switch for the light on the 9 o'clock and the laser switch on the 12 o clock so I can activate both of them at the same time. It takes getting used to but the weight reduction i think is worth it. For close range targets with my budget too it works well but the illuminator struggles with distance past like 100 yards. Good video
How does the NGAL compare to the Raid XE FP? Better or worse?
I love long form content and hope to get more. However, there better be a post credits Nova at the end or I riot.
I’m curious if y’all have any experience with Somo Gears NGAL or Invisible Sights NGAL.
Also I received an email from Eotech around mid June that their goal to release the Civ OGL is early 2024.
Have you broken an Ls m3, been using them for the past few months and all of my samples have held up. Tested quite a few of them. I’m interested in what laserspeed does in the future because the price to power rate is un matched. For me I’m gonna stick to the ngal, nothings better at any price point. I think the only civ powered laser that can ever be considered is the d2.
OGL and Somogear have a surprising amount of overlap: tons of civilian interest, cheap bastards constantly argue over each, lots of power, both filled with empty promises
have you used one/broken one? Because theyve been getting better at QC and I only hear good things about them.
I’ve heard people had good luck for 3-6 months and then the ejection molded plastic started to give way for many users. I believe BrassFacts broke his too with a video eventually coming out
I’m 6k rounds on one of my homogear and still flawless
@@arcaneculture948my only complaint about my somogear is that the illuminator spins in a circle when the focus is adjusted, and just doesn’t hold a zero for shit. Other than that? Fairly impressed for the fuck around unit that it is. It’s hilarious to compare the beam against a FP Dbal, the high setting on the somogear is barely brighter than the low of a real FP unit. But regardless, it does work admirably for what it is.
I have a D2 currently. Happy with it for the cash. Looking to snag the Eotech when it drops. Looks solid.
I still think right now the d2 is the way to go. Interesting to see how the eotech one will fit in whenever it releases some day.
Only real drawbacks with the D2 is the Steiner prolapse issue, Which if you’re careful isn’t a big issue and speaking of big, The D2 is a chunky girl 😂
I sold my PVS14 in hopes to move up to binos. Will be needing to upgrade my ir laser unit. Great vid!
Are you going to go with the 31's?
I have a FP Raid Xe gotta say, yes they took long to initially ship, but Wilcox Customer service have been awesome! I've had to utilize them twice already on missing/replacement parts.. (maybe that's a bad thing) but they definitely have quick response time and have made it right for me both times! I think it deserves at least a C or D
Jesus mr money bags can u get me a second pvs14?
I have FP xe as well. Mind sharing what broke?
@@8solideogloriayeh nothing major. Mine didn't ship with the little o-ring that waterproofs the battery compartment, or the correct tool to change out the lens cover. Also I stripped the small screws that are used to hold the lens cover in place, probably because I am an ape and didn't use the exact size.
@@Token_Black_GuyI didn't pay the mark up price for it
@@politeaf8065wait they will actually ship a FP unit to a civ? Or are you LE?
I looked up the price of some of these lasers and my wallet moved my mouse to exit the page and said keep dreaming.
I wish y’all had talked a little more about the holo lam units performance within civilian world. I have an ls123 that I got for 600 used and it’s great for the money. Super durable too and perfectly serviceable for most practical uses
Jk I commented before the last 10 min of the vid thx
We need more tier lists.
Brass thank you. I’m about 15 minutes until home
I didn't hear you talk about Z-bolt. Since you were so thorough even with unobtainable units, the ACAL will supposedly release by 2024
Also they have an illuminator the Blazer which supposedly is comparable to the Kiji, any experience?
I went with perst 4 because I knew I'd be getting the Klesh-2 along with it. The pressure pad that hooks into both is great. the kelsh-2 isn't that good but it does do decent enough in IR and vis.
main reason i wanted the full power laser was because I wanted to be able to use the visible laser as a non lethal option in a riot situation. Totally absurd, but after 2020 I can't help but feel it's a real thing I want.
If a visbile gun isn't deterent enough i would think to be able to laser someone in the face and get them to think twice is a valuable product, probably more useful than any real NVG setup for most civilians
It's not absurd at all. antifa burned out LEO retinas with cheap wish blue lasers during those riots
Thank you hop for recommending the DBAL I2 9007.
I got one early this year at B&H photo. 😮💨 DBAL I2 is B tier for price performance and reliability, and if it was still available 😂
How did I miss this, thanks for the info🤙
What about the surefire vampire combo with a separate paired laser?
I bought a Perst-2 before the prices went up, but never got night vision. It’s really powerful but it’s similar to a Luna Elir-3. It’s basically a illuminator that can screw into a pin size IR laser.
Just bought a PEQ-2 for 1k. Best bang for buck IR laser/illuminator imo for us civilians.
I just bought a brand new 9007 i2. Didn't know they were so hard to find now. I should have bought 2.
Is the peq 15 full power or ultra high power that you all are talking about?
Brock and Hop, the most dynamic of duos!
Surefire with the vamp head acually is one of the most impressive pieces od gear to me. I love them and as Ben sharpio said, " it's really something every field rifle should have "
I’ve got a somo peq-15 that I had mounted to my 556 ar. My biggest complaint is how easily the laser adjustment screws turn. I can press my finger on them and they’ll rotate. There’s almost no detent at all. I heard that the pic rail mount is a significant failure point so I didn’t ugga dugga it when installing, but after one range session consisting of about 40 rounds, the entire unit was so loose that I’m surprised it didn’t fall off.
I just moved it to a pdw, but having an enormous box strapped to the side of what would have been a very minimalist setup is mildly frustrating. Which brings me back to watching this video from start to finish for a second time. I’m now looking for a better option for both the ar and the pdw. Leaning towards a D2 and holosun respectively.
Thank you for putting out S tier content day in and day out
thoughts on where I can find some replacement diffusers for an NGAL??
Just to mention to update Hop’s info because I used it maybe 6-8 months ago lol but Kosher/Custom NV has been out of 9007’s for months unless something changed in that time. I checked several months ago when you mentioned it and they were gone then and then checked again a few weeks ago and they were gone. Also, the B&H photo email me a price is also still going but it’s $1399 now. Still a great unit for that price in my opinion even with the size. I was out shooting a 2021 Peq-15 tonight and my D2 and honestly… I much prefer the performance of the d2 at least for what I do. Just hate the damn size man!!! WE NEED OGL! Cool video by the way
then I guess they've finally sold out. :(
@@BrassFacts I know man I felt the same way. I was like man Hop and Brass Facts always go on about these 9007’s I guess I’ll get one and throw it on a fun gun… nope lol
Thank for the video, it was educative.
However in my mind Perst-4 was slightly underrated, I mean if you have a combination of the Perst 4 and surefire vampir, you get pretty cheap package ( considering that you still can get a perst in around 800 hundred bucks), weight wise it will be around 300 grams. Which is similar to the 3 in 1 devices, and even lighter considering that with them most still prefer to add a separate white light.
Another benefit that I can think of is modularity as if your light and IR laser are separate devices, you can remove one when you don’t need and makes your rifle somewhat lighter.
At the same time I am just a noob that transitions from airsoft night setup to the real world, and at the time I was in military the only night device we had was 1.5 kilos Soviet night scope.
Therefore if I missed some underwater stones with my comment please let me know.
Holosun ls117ir, surefire m952v, and unity switch is a hell of a budget combo, alittle heavy but you can be out of the door with mounts for sub $800 for ir laser/illuminator and vis light
Is the m952v brighter than the m600v?
@@NateJRSattim honestly not sure but considering you can find them for ~$300 with a qd pic mount, the good tailcap, and tapeswitch; its really hard to beat the value, when i was looking i couldnt find any m300 or m600 for that price without the extras
Damn I needed this in my life
Spends weeks looking at different laser reviews and comparisons, decides I'm just gonna eat ramen for a month and orders a mawl. 2 days later sees this video drop, panics thinking I made a bad decision. Then sees my bad spending habits are validated
I’m looking at maybe getting some NVG’s from a local manufacturer soon. Need more NV content
That was a fun watch, I couldn't agree more 😂. I do love the shiz out of My le221.
My first IR laser will be the holosun ls321 mostly because of cost and im going to Rarely use night vision. my only question is what would you recommend for tape switches to pair with it???
If you’re not going to use NVGs don’t waste your money, The only reason these units have a visible laser is to make sighting in the IR easier, If they’re slaved of course
@@oneshotgear3082 it doesn't hurt to have them tho right lol??
And it's kinda late for me to turn back cuz I already invested in some nods ha ha.
gooood tiermake video! can u recommand some websites for purchasing these laser?
I hope innovation strikes the night vision industry hard so that night vision becomes as cheap and as common as weapon mounted lights.
Never going to happen 😂
Anyone tested either the AGM WLAD 1B/3B or the ANVS RMSAL devices. Supposed to be similar to the ATPIAL and DBAL series. The RMSAL looks to be discontinued, but Botach supposedly still has a few left.
Happy Friday bud, just here for the algorithm
A bit struck when Hop just put the EIR illuminator in F tier automatically without ever having tried one just based solely on the concept.
What about a tier list for muzzle devices? Could stick with one type, or you could just rank all the major ar-15 muzzle deviced. A tier list for optics would be nice too. Especially LPVOs
Are the LE models any more durable than their comparable LS models?
this gave me a great amount of information on my decision should i get an IR device. Especially the 2nd of the tier lists. will go with the holosun or the dbal d2. and IF i feel like spending more on a holosun equivalent, the HLAD and even then it be for the looks. not the best reasoning i know, but at least i have the info on what it really is.
I'm curious where you're finding LS321s for 600, I see them for around 800.
According to TNVC, you can still buy the ATPIAL-C. It’s just backordered for 8+ months and now the price of a D2.
I have a FP Somogear that I strapped down onto the rail with one of those strong wide black bands It’s actually super solid and holds zero and has a great bright laser and illuminator. All for 300$ and a rubber band.
Are you talking about strapping it with a ranger band? If it works it works 🤣
@@nomad0395 haha yeah, a ranger band! I’ve dropped the rifle in the dirt and everything and it’s kept going. So, hey! I actually had a case break on one from one after ratcheting it on too hard (my fault) and they sent me a replacement the next day after messaging them. So, I’m a somogear fan. They work and they’re relatively cheap.
Ok I’m on Amazon getting the VIR II now!
Is there any update from phantom hill on the next CTF?
Only thing I don't like about my perst 3 is the laser tends to bloom a bit on the lowest setting, that and not waterptoof.
I buy the ToughSoul $39 IR laser (+ white light) and $24 IR intensifier off Amazon. They last about 2-3 range sessions or maybe 300 -500 rds each day. My laser white light $39 has been going nearly 2000 rs now... but I've already bought the replacement when it dies... Takes 2 minutes to replace... my motto why cry once when you can buy cheap + more ammo.
Thanks for confirming my purchase lol
This video is a God send!!!