Thanks so much for letting us build this course!!! Hope it helps some folks. The technical skills are only half the battle (that doesn't mean you can skimp on em tho)
I am not a programmer in the actual sense of its definition, I am a data analyst, watching this video is definitely going to boost and enhance my job search and learning process. Thanks for this.
@@vinnydollars765 You don't "get a job." You become a product. You learn skills that are in demand so that you can sell them to an employer. So if you can learn software and make projects, then yes, you will get a job in tech.
Free code camp deserves a nobel prize for humanity. Im going to be resuming my $5 monthly donation. You have a single employee who goes thru many email requests to cancel donation subscriptions but yall have done so much for us.
00:20 - 17:30 1. how to allocate your time: before the threshold of applying a job, 100% time to learning; after the threshold, shouldn't stop learning, split the time 50/50. 2. signal ang noise analogy, give employers the signal you are the right one. 17:32-19:02 learning by doing(practicing), if you could build something people are still using, that would be a good signal. 19:05-21:52 try to find a job out of pity is a bad strategy. 21:53-26:41 Portfolio Projects: an interesting project is very effective. 26:42-30:47 Building a project is most efficient way to learn and to show that you know how to code. A project not always is an app, it also could be a library. 30:48-34:25 Set a realistic goal, because only if when your goal is concrete enough, you will know when you have achieved it, more specific your goal is, more driving it is. 34:26-47:10 One impressive project is way better than 30 mediocre lackluster projects. How to write a good readme and why you should avoid using word like "just". 47:11-53:33 How to write quick start, usage, contributing etc. 53:34-1:06:45 more suggestions about Github Profile
I made a Wordpress template single page site for a lady who works at an accelerator for 1200. A couple weeks later she suggested me as a software engineer to a startup looking to grow their team. That was my lucky break into tech landed a 50 an hr junior dev roll sometimes it’s just complete luck because I still don’t feel prepared but I’m trying my hardest to catch up before they fire me 😫
I've worked for 2 companies so far since graduating, a total of 3 years for both. Got laid off and looking. It's been a year. No callbacks, no interviews, no nothing. Revised my resume a hundred million times, cold emails, even making it a LatEx resume to beat ATS systems. Nothing. The only thing wrong that I can point to is my location. That's the only thing I can think of considering I live in Africa
If you're applying in the U.S. that's your problem. Companies here are rarely making exceptions for international/outsourced workers at this point, especially since we have crazy supply over here already.
@@OnDutyHighlights it's not in the US most of the time, but it is in Europe and other parts of the world that offer remote jobs. I don't even know where to go from here, I'm so confused and lost. I'm losing hope fast.
Nah man, it's like that everywhere. African countries like many smaller European countries had hundreds of openings monthly, now it's down to single digits everywhere. IT, web dev especially is dead currently. After massive layoffs market is flooded with programmers even medicare companies can easily hire former fang workers that at least on paper are way more skilled then you, me and others.
@@wykydytron You're totally correct. I'm just saying because of your example, laid off FAANG workers flooding the market, companies are less likely going to hire outside their country. Usually when they do, it's just for contract anyway.
Theo emphasizing having a goal that can be reached really resonates with me. I think for people that have adhd, it can be difficult to narrow a goal down to something specific. I always feel like I need to fully learn a certain thing/topic before I can move on to the next thing, and the scope just keeps increasing to the point where it becomes overwhelming and I give up. And it’s true that no one fully knows a language or a technology, you just continue to learn what is necessary for the things you build.
Can relate, if you don't go all the way you feel like a loser - and you usually can't, so basically setting yourself up for failure every single time. ;_;
Thanks so much. I got my first dev job 2 years ago but the company went under in December and have had no luck getting another job with 2 YOE and no degree. Haven't even gotten to a technical interview yet. Just ghosted after the the screening interview.
The sob story worked for me to get my first internship. However, I didn't really say anything sad or negative, I just sent a letter begging them to let me in cause I wanted to work there REALLLYYY BADLYYY. It was more desperation than pity.
Thanks for this! I've been building my own website for about 15 years, I learned bit of code over the years until about three years ago, and then did some local classes via local adult ed classes, so I've actually coding for about three years, and rebuilding site, this year. I've done back end C# mainly over the last 13 months, but going back into front- end doing some HTML, CSS and JS refreshers. Going for getting hired this year. Turning 57 this year, I've needed to get laser focused.
This is gold. The video is full of good and interesting advices not only for entry-level developers, but for experienced developers too. Though I've been coding for a long time developing dozens of websites from my tiny company, I'm having a hard time finding new clients and projects, so I'm gonna put in good use some of the tactics said here. Thank you and happy coding. :)
I freelanced for 4 years - during that ran a brand consultancy for 16 years - fairly social so could get clients and then one who had a good business acumen wanted to bring me in as a partner in the business. My advice is the tech side is obviously critical but don’t ignore the social skills!! Take care of yourself and improve your appearance. Look your best. People like more attractive folks I also think being worldly helps too. Read books outside of tech and be interesting. Socialize. You can get so many jobs just going to nice bars and meet ups. If you got friends who come from money or business families , be the tech guy in their network they’ll toss the work to you
I got in by going help desk > technical administration > systems admin > now software developer with very little training or projects . Just basic hmtl css and some c# . ...
The state of the economy is very important: if there is a recession, recent grads or people without commercial experience in general are going to have a very hard time getting jobs. People like to talk about projects and resumes but nobody is going to look at you if you don’t have commercial experience if companies are downsizing.
In my country there are only 6 offers for front end juniors, all require several years of experience and regular level skills in several stacks. Pretty much there is absolutely no job for front end junior. By comparison in 2020 we had over 200 openings monthly for actual juniors.
I resonate with the janitor. I do have a project and have been trying for months after graduation but I'm running out of savings so I'll just do whatever I get at this point. I don't know if I have the willpower to continue. Good luck to everyone still fighting, I have nothing but respect and best wishes for you.
I do too. I attended college as an adult and obtained my CS degree, but by that time covid started. I saw a lot of people losing jobs and I didn't want to risk my stable job even though I applied to several job postings. I basically stopped applying to jobs since then. As an adult you have to consider many things before jumping into a new field, because you already have economic responsibilities on your back.
I graduated may 2023 with a masters in CS and im still applying to jobs. I luckily have been able to keep my student position which pays the bills, but i really just want to get out and develop. Thanks for this course, looking forward to getting through it.
Thank you so much for this video! As I am actively applying for jobs this really helped build a blueprint for my goals. 🎉 Never too old to learn or change careers. 😊❤ Musician/teacher for 25 years and excited to bring that experience into the tech industry😊 Thanks again and good luck everyone on your coding journey! 🎉🥳
@Mesenqe I was able to stop it from happening to me by going through the recommended videos and clicking the 3 dots and pressing "not interested in this video" a bunch of times until the algorithm figured it out.
What an amazing video. If people wondering if these tips work. Yes, some of the things mentioned here are what helped me land my first job. If I had this video when I was looking, I would of probably landed my first job even quicker. Lots of actionable things here.
@@astratow Im back this week, need to get back to live streaming. Will be doing it Sundays 11:00 AM I think it is not too late for the European time zone.
1:49:50 about the feedback. I live in NL and the only times when i receive feedback, it is mostly due to my lack of professional experience. While i apply for junior level jobs
Appreciate this video, makes me realize that I am not cut out for this industry, and getting a software engineering degree was a mistake and waste of time. I really relate to that janitor
Got my CS degree specializing in Software Engineering, but my first real "job" was "junior network engineer" and then "accounts bookkeeper" which I absolutely hated, learned a ton though, 2 years later I'm back to software and I feel so left behind just thinking about what could've been had I pushed through the pain and struggle of continuous learning while not finding a software dev job. I did what paid my bills, but now that I'm back and working, I'm never leaving this industry again, come ai or whatever.
I got a long time as web developer front and back, I love more backend I've never got a job, but I'm freelance jobs. I want to stand out from others doing a really good backend project, using a lot of math, learning many things all the time, and feel overwhealm, it's time to get a decent job, I hope can able to get it, not more hope my hands in action.
I'm in the same situation as the example of the guy who graduated more than a year ago and doesn't have a job. I graduated in the middle of the pandemic and I couldn't get a job so I continued with my normal job and after a few months I stopped applying for jobs and the worst thing was that I stopped studying. I regret it a lot and now I'm making up for wasted time reviewing everything I did and learning what I should. The challenge will be to have this bachelor's degree on my resume, which increasingly increases the time without job experience. *little experience writing in English*
I'm going back doing more projects. Some concepts in coding still don't click yet for some reason and my unimaginative self can't think of ideas to create my own projects.
Luck or bust. In my country there are currently just 6 offers for junior front end devs, all 6 require to have 2+ years commercial experience and fluent skills in several stack, git, testing and preferably good skills in backend. Good luck people. I just tapped out of the race after 2years of wasted time on learning front end, its no longer realistic to get job in that field after recent layoffs. Will do some freelancing and try to get job in my old field.
This is exactly what I needed today. Thank you so much for this. I've been working hard for the last few years in learning and working on personal projects and so far haven't had luck in the job hunt. Some good stuff in here that I will definitely take into account moving forward!
Thanks guys. Every bit of help is greatly appreciate in this grim market. But one thing I have to point out is that it's NOT getting easier for subsequent jobs unless you're relying on cronyism. In fact, finding a job after a gap is much much harder than your first ever job.
At 7:17, you talked about a gap in your resume. I graduated in July 2023 and still have not found a job but kept learning. I learnt Data structures and Algorithms from websites. Also, i learnt Design patterns. Can I put these in my resume or will it look stupid? 28:07
I understand this is for backend, but it seem to useful for front-end as well. The electronic drums are very cool, I've been into electronic music since about 1980.
Same, 2years wasted. 2024 job market is nowhere near what it was in 2020 and I don't even want to go back to 2018 when junior jobs had hundreds of openings at all times. Now in my country there are literally just 6 openings listed. Maybe it will go back to norm in year or two but right now it's nightmare. I'm going back to my old trade.
I still have a lot of learning left because at a certain point in your talk about projects I had no idea of the jargon you used for GO and the different APIs.
Are you Quincy, is that your name? I wanted to congratulate you. You have a fine and polished skill and talent to teach and articulate a concept that stands out like I have rarely seen. I wish you were around years ago when I was in the job search. I have learned a great deal of all the mistakes I made looking for jobs and information I never found in books. Most of your information applies to any career/profession as I have nothing to do with coding; yet you answered many of the why’s I never was able to figure out. So, thank you.☺️
Amazing content. But I am a recruiter trying to break into the industry. 9 years of experience(7 with big headhunting firms) and 2 in-house with a large company. I will say I always had a fair bit of clientele who were looking for entry level candidates that just didn’t have the TA capabilities to find them/ screen them and would rely on us to screen for personality and culture fit. Mostly mid to small companies, $50m -300M revenue size. So I would argue talking to them for those purposes. That said, you will now have a fee attached to you if that company wants to hire. So it can be great as recruiters have access to positions that aren’t even posted (that happens a lot too) and can be your advocate but also true that a company may be less inclined to hire you because of the fee. Typically that’s not an issue. Plus it can be good interview practice. As a 3 rd party recruiter, I can coach you and give you candid interview feedback, having interviewed thousands of candidates at all levels, whereas an HR or internal recruiter will typically never give you the real reason you weren’t hired due to the risk involved.
Hi Lane, thank you very much for this course it will help me out tremendously. I just had a question when you were referring to libraries (1:06:07 ) could you show us an example of some. I worked on our restaurants POS system and developed an amazing library (I wanna call it now) of all the different server inputs needed in order to perform efficiently. Thanks I’m Keith by the way on the self-taught web developer looking to enter this industry Have a nice day!
Speaking of going for a CS degree, I am half way and looking to finish y degree in the next couple years. By the time I will finish my degree, I will be 54 years old. Do you think that that will affect my chances of finding a job knowing that I have no previous IT experience?
In 2020 and before it would not matter at all, in 2024 where even young skilled people cannot get job? Yeah it will be issue. Unfortunately it field absolutely crashed between post covid layoffs and AI set to replace majority of juniors.
Yup You can be a dev student at 31 You can be a internee dev at 32 You can land a decent dev Job at 33 And you will be guiding others at 34 Only and only if start today, Best of luck 🤞
11:05 What happens if we're already at the trough of sorrow? And also have 10 years of experience but had to not work for 3 years to handle something personal?
Just commenting on here. I am that janitor guys he talks about in the 9 minute mark. I am not giving up though. I know it's a matter of time until I make it. I just wish the path felt more clear. Hoping this video will help.
The humble approach and prioritization of assistance and effort that you and your team consistently display are qualities that more individuals should adopt. GrindTechiei, you are truly deserving of all the achievements that come your way! Your actions exemplify your angelic nature, and I am incredibly proud of you. ..You serve as my primary inspiration to make a difference in the lives of others..
What if am already working for a startup and i developed multiple apps for them , can i put this projects/apps in the project section of my cv ? (of course i will mention the name of the company )
Hey I need an advice, I'm from India and I'm doing BTech in Electronica and communication major, but I wanna make my career as a software developer. So my question is will this (ECE) degree help me to getting my first job as a software developer when I will graduate or should I drop out from course and enroll in some bootcamp or become a self taught developer.
If you are in India, become a self taught developer at your own time. Don't drop out, finish what you are doing because in India they do not hire you without a degree. If you can switch you stream to computer science, that would be great.
@@saurab1271 I don't want to work for Indian companies though, but I'm currently in first year so I am also thinking that would be a very big decision because I don't know the whole scenario.. the only problem I've with college is their 75% attendance criteria rule that really sucks. Thanks for the advice though
@shouryakumar9824 Change your college. There are many colleges that don't really care about your attendance (even if it means that you may lose an extra year). All developers, irrespective of whether they went to college or not, are self-taught ( if you get what I mean). Because it takes personal effort and time to be one. I was once in a very similar situation you are in. My college sucked and attendance was compulsory, don't allow it to waste your precious time. Also, college placements are an easy way to gain experience. Applying off campus is harder. Internships , freelance projects, open source contributions, ability to be good at data structures and algorithms(dsa), all these things really help. Applying abroad for an indian is not so easy because you have tuff competition with people who already have experience who would want the same job. Non-Indian companies in India don't hire you without a degree. Even if they do , it's a rare thing.
@@saurab1271 okay I got your point, I've one more question if I change my college now then it will be my 2nd gap year after 12th (because I took 1 drop year after 12th) , so will it affect my job in future or If I want to do mtech from abroad so will gap year affect that too and what about bca from distance university like is it a good option??
@shouryakumar9824 As long as you can explain your gap years , it shouldn't matter both in terms of getting a job and studying abroad. Just get a good score. Distance learning has no value in India. No one will hire you, and it's hard to apply abroad, I wouldn't choose distance learning.
I made a simple website that took a persons local time, converted to a string of unix time for discord. This was to help many of my streamer friends making schedules for their streams. Now they could just enter their local time and everyone else would see it in their local time (be that sweden, america, or chile) Very simple!
2:40, I don't know what you're smoking, but this is completely unreasonable. At least here in Canada, all the engineers I know - and some of my friends, including myself - consider it lucky if you get two phone screenings per 100 applications.
can't believe that begging for a job is no longer enough, with what's happening in the job market I won't be surprised if one day when you apply for a job to be a slave you need years of experience lmo you probably won't even see junior or entry-level slave you will senior level Slave with ridiculous Job requirements
Already happening. Looking for junior front end job, opened biggest portal with job listenings, whole 6 open positions for juniors, all require 2+ years of experience and regular/senior skills. Checked senior jobs, 200+ offers, guess what? 10+ years of experience, mastery in everything and wage? Just 1k more then junior. Good luck getting job if you just started in dev.
@@wykydytron Nah at this point I will just do my own thing, just doing my own thing starting a business and won't even bother begging anymore obviously I am not wanted I think learning software engineering/Development or coding just to get a job is no longer a thing in today's market you can only learn to code because you want to not because you want to make money by having a job I remember back in the day in high school somebody told me that it's better to work as a handyman or plumber, dustbin/garbage man woodworking, event planner, vehicle mechanic..etc than a job that requires a 3+ degree let's be honest even if everyone gets one only few will get hired, anyways jobs like that was back in 2017 these jobs were a lot more prevalent and more consistent even till now it's a lot of imbalance it's 80% of people want to to work in jobs that require a degree which also explains the recent increase in competition these odd they pay might be terrible compared to the ones with degrees but honestly it's better to earn an average wage with more control and opportunities to start a tech business later on I mean imagine applying for jobs since 2022 until now and no luck
Okaaay...but what if a tech recruiter clones your project that has API keys inside a .env file that is not posted on GitHub...would they spend time creating their own on whatever websites that require them? I really doubt so
In fact I really doubt any recruiter would even look over your commits, let alone clone it. I assume only contributors would be interested on cloning and creating their own secret tokens
Realistically no one will look at your portfolio unless you have absolute masterpiece there. It's something you need to have but no one will go in deep to check it. They may just see name of project and based on that ask you to talk about it, like what you used to make it, why. They don't care about project at all they just want to hear you talking with understanding about it so they know you did not just copy pasted it.
I went out for drinks tonight and was watching a vid as I ate my midnight snack - anyway I guess my phone assumed I fell asleep cos of the time and I HEAR A FAMILIAR VOICE FROM MY DREAMS - this video. It’s playing it cos it thinks I’m asleep. Scaring but beautiful
Got my IT 4 year-degree and started as a Tech Support Analyst intern then hired as a MS Power Platform dev. I struggle to explain to my wife (she's in healthcare) that although I got a job, it's going to require continuos self learning outside of work. Feeling imposter syndrome.
How can i land a web dev job with just html and css? Still learning JS. Hoping to find a Landing Page job or anything that only require html and css for now.
Thanks a lot! Something weird happend to me and I wanted to ask if it's normal in the industry. After probably 2-3 hundreds of applications one company contacted me. We had several round of different types of interviews and in the end they gave me two tasks to accomplish in three days. I wrote whole application that was checking all functionalities they were asking for. Than for a long time they did not give me any info what happend to my application. after 3 weeks or so I received rejection email and couldn't get a feedback. I worked so hard and it was extremely frustrating..
No, it does not look like normal to me. When they make you spend so much time for them, they must at least give you a feedback. Giving you a task to write a whole functioning application in the last stage is pretty weird to me as well.
The most insane part is how others can say you're unemployable yet you're the only one who says you are. I hate how life absolutely relies on a support network of strangers. I'd do it all myself if I could.
sure wish I seent chapter 1 like a decade ago when I graduated from college basically just sat on my ass and barely have any work history or projects at all. rather unemployable, and can't really muster the will to grind hard at fixing that either :/
1 great project >>>> 3/4 normal projects Do projects that are not necessary complex but need to be unique af. Solve a real problem (even if it is small). Put effort in coming up with a good title, simple description and strong motivation. Specific Knowledge > Generic Saying I know 1/2 languages is better than mentioning all the languages you know.
Don’t understand. Other sources from the Economist to the FT write that there is a massive shortage of developers. Why do you say the market is brutal? You mean brutal as competitive, challenging?
there's a problem FT claims there's mass shortage of developers but they have those shortages because they want to hire experienced developers for the price or salary of interns that's why they have developer shortage problem Countries that have salary compensation according to their skill/responsibilities don't have this problem ever In real net job its opposite there has been net job loss in Canada and even EU but not US
There is no shortage of devs, recent months changed everything. After massive layoffs in IT most positions were filled. Look in my country in June of 2023 we had 200+ junior front end dev openings and such number was stable or higher over last 6+ years. Today we have 6... Yes, just 6 openings in front end junior dev position, all required 2+ years of commercial experience and intimate knowledge of JS + whatever main framework company uses. Web dev market is absolutely saturated. You can read about people that have 3+ years of experience being unable to find job in past few years. Do you know free code camp sells you story there are openings and you can get job? Because they sell bootcamps, if people realize in current state of thing development especially web dev is dead end they will loose money.
Bro I live in EU, look at my original reply, we went from having 200+ monthly openings to 6. EU also had layoffs recently, not as spectacular as fang but enough to destroy local job markets. It's borderline impossible to land junior job for actual juniors.
Thanks so much for letting us build this course!!! Hope it helps some folks. The technical skills are only half the battle (that doesn't mean you can skimp on em tho)
I am not a programmer in the actual sense of its definition, I am a data analyst, watching this video is definitely going to boost and enhance my job search and learning process. Thanks for this.
I’m actually a beginner and I didn’t attend high institutions, did you think I can get a good job after when am done ?
@@vinnydollars765 Getting a low level job is not a trick, how are you going to build your career without a proper education?
@@vinnydollars765 You don't "get a job." You become a product. You learn skills that are in demand so that you can sell them to an employer. So if you can learn software and make projects, then yes, you will get a job in tech.
@@aammssaamm You don't need a college degree to build a high paying career in tech.
Did anyone wake up to this playing? I was watching some podcast, when I woke up this is playing lol.
Yes
Right now lmfao
@@gehmstonee 😂😂these folks are racking up views while we are asleep😜!
Yeah - but at 3.20am.
Abd I couldn’t be further from being a developer!!?!
Same
Free code camp deserves a nobel prize for humanity. Im going to be resuming my $5 monthly donation. You have a single employee who goes thru many email requests to cancel donation subscriptions but yall have done so much for us.
Hip hip hurray!
00:20 - 17:30
1. how to allocate your time: before the threshold of applying a job, 100% time to learning; after the threshold, shouldn't stop learning, split the time 50/50.
2. signal ang noise analogy, give employers the signal you are the right one.
17:32-19:02
learning by doing(practicing), if you could build something people are still using, that would be a good signal.
19:05-21:52
try to find a job out of pity is a bad strategy.
21:53-26:41
Portfolio Projects: an interesting project is very effective.
26:42-30:47
Building a project is most efficient way to learn and to show that you know how to code. A project not always is an app, it also could be a library.
30:48-34:25
Set a realistic goal, because only if when your goal is concrete enough, you will know when you have achieved it, more specific your goal is, more driving it is.
34:26-47:10
One impressive project is way better than 30 mediocre lackluster projects.
How to write a good readme and why you should avoid using word like "just".
47:11-53:33
How to write quick start, usage, contributing etc.
53:34-1:06:45
more suggestions about Github Profile
I listen to podcasts when I go to sleep, and this is like the 5th time that this video plays when I wake up. Is the world telling me something 🤣
This guy getting rich by people waking up
@@maximsomerling😂😂
Universe trying tell something 😅
I made a Wordpress template single page site for a lady who works at an accelerator for 1200. A couple weeks later she suggested me as a software engineer to a startup looking to grow their team. That was my lucky break into tech landed a 50 an hr junior dev roll sometimes it’s just complete luck because I still don’t feel prepared but I’m trying my hardest to catch up before they fire me 😫
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awesome
good luck!
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Believe in yourself, you can do it. 💪
I've worked for 2 companies so far since graduating, a total of 3 years for both. Got laid off and looking. It's been a year. No callbacks, no interviews, no nothing. Revised my resume a hundred million times, cold emails, even making it a LatEx resume to beat ATS systems. Nothing. The only thing wrong that I can point to is my location. That's the only thing I can think of considering I live in Africa
If you're applying in the U.S. that's your problem. Companies here are rarely making exceptions for international/outsourced workers at this point, especially since we have crazy supply over here already.
@@OnDutyHighlights it's not in the US most of the time, but it is in Europe and other parts of the world that offer remote jobs. I don't even know where to go from here, I'm so confused and lost. I'm losing hope fast.
Nah man, it's like that everywhere. African countries like many smaller European countries had hundreds of openings monthly, now it's down to single digits everywhere. IT, web dev especially is dead currently. After massive layoffs market is flooded with programmers even medicare companies can easily hire former fang workers that at least on paper are way more skilled then you, me and others.
@@wykydytron You're totally correct. I'm just saying because of your example, laid off FAANG workers flooding the market, companies are less likely going to hire outside their country. Usually when they do, it's just for contract anyway.
Theo emphasizing having a goal that can be reached really resonates with me. I think for people that have adhd, it can be difficult to narrow a goal down to something specific. I always feel like I need to fully learn a certain thing/topic before I can move on to the next thing, and the scope just keeps increasing to the point where it becomes overwhelming and I give up. And it’s true that no one fully knows a language or a technology, you just continue to learn what is necessary for the things you build.
Can relate, if you don't go all the way you feel like a loser - and you usually can't, so basically setting yourself up for failure every single time. ;_;
Lol, it's like you read my mind 😂
Welp! I didn't know I've Adhd
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Thanks so much. I got my first dev job 2 years ago but the company went under in December and have had no luck getting another job with 2 YOE and no degree. Haven't even gotten to a technical interview yet. Just ghosted after the the screening interview.
I’ve got the degree but no experience. I’m also getting ghosted 👻
@@LifeofArmoney big relate
gatekeepers thats the reason.
The sob story worked for me to get my first internship. However, I didn't really say anything sad or negative, I just sent a letter begging them to let me in cause I wanted to work there REALLLYYY BADLYYY. It was more desperation than pity.
Thanks for this! I've been building my own website for about 15 years, I learned bit of code over the years until about three years ago, and then did some local classes via local adult ed classes, so I've actually coding for about three years, and rebuilding site, this year. I've done back end C# mainly over the last 13 months, but going back into front- end doing some HTML, CSS and JS refreshers. Going for getting hired this year. Turning 57 this year, I've needed to get laser focused.
God speed!
Thanks! @@thedarkriver1
What is your website? Can i check it out?
15 years!!!
And hear i thought my three years were shameful.
This is gold. The video is full of good and interesting advices not only for entry-level developers, but for experienced developers too. Though I've been coding for a long time developing dozens of websites from my tiny company, I'm having a hard time finding new clients and projects, so I'm gonna put in good use some of the tactics said here. Thank you and happy coding. :)
I freelanced for 4 years - during that ran a brand consultancy for 16 years - fairly social so could get clients and then one who had a good business acumen wanted to bring me in as a partner in the business.
My advice is the tech side is obviously critical but don’t ignore the social skills!!
Take care of yourself and improve your appearance. Look your best. People like more attractive folks
I also think being worldly helps too. Read books outside of tech and be interesting.
Socialize. You can get so many jobs just going to nice bars and meet ups.
If you got friends who come from money or business families , be the tech guy in their network they’ll toss the work to you
I got in by going help desk > technical administration > systems admin > now software developer with very little training or projects . Just basic hmtl css and some c# . ...
How many guys after wake up
Thank you for this video!
I have 4 years of experience and I can tell this is gold!
The state of the economy is very important: if there is a recession, recent grads or people without commercial experience in general are going to have a very hard time getting jobs. People like to talk about projects and resumes but nobody is going to look at you if you don’t have commercial experience if companies are downsizing.
The worst thing they can say is no. You don't lose anything by a applying
Good morning everyone. Apparently I woke up to this.
The amount of "Jr" listings I see that ask for 5+yrs of experience is insane.
In my country there are only 6 offers for front end juniors, all require several years of experience and regular level skills in several stacks. Pretty much there is absolutely no job for front end junior. By comparison in 2020 we had over 200 openings monthly for actual juniors.
I resonate with the janitor. I do have a project and have been trying for months after graduation but I'm running out of savings so I'll just do whatever I get at this point. I don't know if I have the willpower to continue. Good luck to everyone still fighting, I have nothing but respect and best wishes for you.
Yeah, i really hate this drama i have to go through to look for jobs, is almost like looking for a date.
I do too. I attended college as an adult and obtained my CS degree, but by that time covid started. I saw a lot of people losing jobs and I didn't want to risk my stable job even though I applied to several job postings. I basically stopped applying to jobs since then. As an adult you have to consider many things before jumping into a new field, because you already have economic responsibilities on your back.
Yeah, the lack of remote opportunities really did it for me. If I can't go remote, I'm looking for a different job.
Work at Chevron or Taco Bell. Starts at decent pay
I graduated may 2023 with a masters in CS and im still applying to jobs. I luckily have been able to keep my student position which pays the bills, but i really just want to get out and develop. Thanks for this course, looking forward to getting through it.
Thank you so much for this video! As I am actively applying for jobs this really helped build a blueprint for my goals. 🎉 Never too old to learn or change careers. 😊❤ Musician/teacher for 25 years and excited to bring that experience into the tech industry😊 Thanks again and good luck everyone on your coding journey! 🎉🥳
RUclips needs to stop bringing me here while I'm sleeping. How do I block this channel. This has got to be the 100th time
Omg, me too. I always wake up in the middle of the night to this.
@Mesenqe I was able to stop it from happening to me by going through the recommended videos and clicking the 3 dots and pressing "not interested in this video" a bunch of times until the algorithm figured it out.
@Mesenqe these people are making thousands of dollars off sleeping views.
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What an amazing video. If people wondering if these tips work. Yes, some of the things mentioned here are what helped me land my first job. If I had this video when I was looking, I would of probably landed my first job even quicker. Lots of actionable things here.
Hello Pavel, when are you back?
@@astratow Im back this week, need to get back to live streaming. Will be doing it Sundays 11:00 AM I think it is not too late for the European time zone.
Magnificent video Congratulations, Cool !!! 😃👍🥊
1:49:50 about the feedback. I live in NL and the only times when i receive feedback, it is mostly due to my lack of professional experience. While i apply for junior level jobs
To Quincy , Beau and the creators of this course. THANK YOU!
Appreciate this video, makes me realize that I am not cut out for this industry, and getting a software engineering degree was a mistake and waste of time. I really relate to that janitor
Got my CS degree specializing in Software Engineering, but my first real "job" was "junior network engineer" and then "accounts bookkeeper" which I absolutely hated, learned a ton though, 2 years later I'm back to software and I feel so left behind just thinking about what could've been had I pushed through the pain and struggle of continuous learning while not finding a software dev job. I did what paid my bills, but now that I'm back and working, I'm never leaving this industry again, come ai or whatever.
You were lucky. Just got my CS degree with distinction and on the dean's list, and my first job is now a kitchen helper.
@@LinLin-rs2bv 😂😂😂
It’s not worth it anymore. Companies treat programmers like disposable commodities.
I got a long time as web developer front and back, I love more backend I've never got a job, but I'm freelance jobs. I want to stand out from others doing a really good backend project, using a lot of math, learning many things all the time, and feel overwhealm, it's time to get a decent job, I hope can able to get it, not more hope my hands in action.
I'm in the same situation as the example of the guy who graduated more than a year ago and doesn't have a job. I graduated in the middle of the pandemic and I couldn't get a job so I continued with my normal job and after a few months I stopped applying for jobs and the worst thing was that I stopped studying. I regret it a lot and now I'm making up for wasted time reviewing everything I did and learning what I should. The challenge will be to have this bachelor's degree on my resume, which increasingly increases the time without job experience.
*little experience writing in English*
You’re dope at English. I know a lot of people who write it worse and it’s their only one. You’re good!
This video always get in the queue at night when I am sleeping...
I'm going back doing more projects. Some concepts in coding still don't click yet for some reason and my unimaginative self can't think of ideas to create my own projects.
What projects are you going to build . I am also think about doing it . Can you please suggest some ?
Referred by Don the Developer! Can’t wait to give it a listen. Thanks for making the time to create this!
Luck or bust. In my country there are currently just 6 offers for junior front end devs, all 6 require to have 2+ years commercial experience and fluent skills in several stack, git, testing and preferably good skills in backend. Good luck people. I just tapped out of the race after 2years of wasted time on learning front end, its no longer realistic to get job in that field after recent layoffs. Will do some freelancing and try to get job in my old field.
MY BUDDY ThePrimeagen @ the video LETS GOOOO
I'm so proud of myself for seeing this whole course through to the finish line
This is exactly what I needed today. Thank you so much for this. I've been working hard for the last few years in learning and working on personal projects and so far haven't had luck in the job hunt. Some good stuff in here that I will definitely take into account moving forward!
Literally bro!
I'm in the same boat
you are a Genius I've been following you for a few years close to ten to be exact I appreciate you Boss keep being a Blessing to this Community
Thanks guys. Every bit of help is greatly appreciate in this grim market. But one thing I have to point out is that it's NOT getting easier for subsequent jobs unless you're relying on cronyism. In fact, finding a job after a gap is much much harder than your first ever job.
At 7:17, you talked about a gap in your resume. I graduated in July 2023 and still have not found a job but kept learning. I learnt Data structures and Algorithms from websites. Also, i learnt Design patterns. Can I put these in my resume or will it look stupid? 28:07
I understand this is for backend, but it seem to useful for front-end as well. The electronic drums are very cool, I've been into electronic music since about 1980.
This is more a podcast than a course and a very enjoyable one
I gave up on coding jobs.
I am changing my domain.
For what domain?
Same, 2years wasted. 2024 job market is nowhere near what it was in 2020 and I don't even want to go back to 2018 when junior jobs had hundreds of openings at all times. Now in my country there are literally just 6 openings listed. Maybe it will go back to norm in year or two but right now it's nightmare. I'm going back to my old trade.
@@wykydytron
Which country are you from?
Gonna watch this as soon as I get home from work!! Thank you for always putting out great content for people trying to get into programming jobs!!💙
Same, I'll sit down with some tea in my "CSS is Awesome" cup and crackers and watch the whole video through.
Are you home from work yet? Was it worth the watch?
@@peaklegacy146 It was (I know you are not talking to me)
I still have a lot of learning left because at a certain point in your talk about projects I had no idea of the jargon you used for GO and the different APIs.
Are you Quincy, is that your name? I wanted to congratulate you. You have a fine and polished skill and talent to teach and articulate a concept that stands out like I have rarely seen. I wish you were around years ago when I was in the job search. I have learned a great deal of all the mistakes I made looking for jobs and information I never found in books. Most of your information applies to any career/profession as I have nothing to do with coding; yet you answered many of the why’s I never was able to figure out. So, thank you.☺️
Amazing content. But I am a recruiter trying to break into the industry. 9 years of experience(7 with big headhunting firms) and 2 in-house with a large company. I will say I always had a fair bit of clientele who were looking for entry level candidates that just didn’t have the TA capabilities to find them/ screen them and would rely on us to screen for personality and culture fit.
Mostly mid to small companies, $50m -300M revenue size. So I would argue talking to them for those purposes. That said, you will now have a fee attached to you if that company wants to hire. So it can be great as recruiters have access to positions that aren’t even posted (that happens a lot too) and can be your advocate but also true that a company may be less inclined to hire you because of the fee. Typically that’s not an issue.
Plus it can be good interview practice. As a 3 rd party recruiter, I can coach you and give you candid interview feedback, having interviewed thousands of candidates at all levels, whereas an HR or internal recruiter will typically never give you the real reason you weren’t hired due to the risk involved.
This is an incredibly comprehensive video! Thank you for this! 🎉
This is a fantastic presentation. Thank you for all the work to put this together!
This is what I need! Thanks for understanding my needs
...how the heck did I get here.
Ditto... Just woke up to this
Hi Lane, thank you very much for this course it will help me out tremendously. I just had a question when you were referring to libraries (1:06:07 ) could you show us an example of some. I worked on our restaurants POS system and developed an amazing library (I wanna call it now) of all the different server inputs needed in order to perform efficiently. Thanks I’m Keith by the way on the self-taught web developer looking to enter this industry
Have a nice day!
Great course on getting started. Even on polishing you work application skills. Cheers!
very usefull tips, i will definitely come back i rewatch it in couple of months when i start applying jobs.
Thank you so much
Thank you so much for this man. Extremely invaluable for the community.
Terima kasih.
Oooh how helpful. Thanks guys!
Thank you very much, here in Brazil this kind of content is very rare.
Speaking of going for a CS degree, I am half way and looking to finish y degree in the next couple years. By the time I will finish my degree, I will be 54 years old. Do you think that that will affect my chances of finding a job knowing that I have no previous IT experience?
Yes, I would look for alternative. Not worth it, you won’t get a job.
In 2020 and before it would not matter at all, in 2024 where even young skilled people cannot get job? Yeah it will be issue. Unfortunately it field absolutely crashed between post covid layoffs and AI set to replace majority of juniors.
This channel is a whole universe for coding knowledge seriously 💥✨🌟💫💯🔥
im 30 n planning to change my career domain to coding , any hopes ?
Yup
You can be a dev student at 31
You can be a internee dev at 32
You can land a decent dev Job at 33
And you will be guiding others at 34
Only and only if start today,
Best of luck 🤞
I’m 37 and just moved from truck driving to a junior dev
@@hassanshahzad653 ty for some hope )
@@lionelthebuilder ty for some hope )
11:05 What happens if we're already at the trough of sorrow? And also have 10 years of experience but had to not work for 3 years to handle something personal?
Спасибо за связку! Какие ещё биржи вы порекомендуете?
Bro how did I wake up to this I don't even watch this content and now my youtube is full of it
I love this course so much as I cannot find this anywhere.
Great piece of advice.
Love the season.
just saw the first chapter ,I really enjoyed and got a lot of information. will complete it soon enough. thanks for such awesome content
This is just a reminder to complete it soon :)
Just commenting on here. I am that janitor guys he talks about in the 9 minute mark. I am not giving up though. I know it's a matter of time until I make it. I just wish the path felt more clear. Hoping this video will help.
The humble approach and prioritization of assistance and effort that you and your team consistently display are qualities that more individuals should adopt. GrindTechiei, you are truly deserving of all the achievements that come your way! Your actions exemplify your angelic nature, and I am incredibly proud of you. ..You serve as my primary inspiration to make a difference in the lives of others..
What if am already working for a startup and i developed multiple apps for them , can i put this projects/apps in the project section of my cv ? (of course i will mention the name of the company )
Hey I need an advice, I'm from India and I'm doing BTech in Electronica and communication major, but I wanna make my career as a software developer. So my question is will this (ECE) degree help me to getting my first job as a software developer when I will graduate or should I drop out from course and enroll in some bootcamp or become a self taught developer.
If you are in India, become a self taught developer at your own time.
Don't drop out, finish what you are doing because in India they do not hire you without a degree.
If you can switch you stream to computer science, that would be great.
@@saurab1271 I don't want to work for Indian companies though, but I'm currently in first year so I am also thinking that would be a very big decision because I don't know the whole scenario.. the only problem I've with college is their 75% attendance criteria rule that really sucks.
Thanks for the advice though
@shouryakumar9824 Change your college. There are many colleges that don't really care about your attendance (even if it means that you may lose an extra year). All developers, irrespective of whether they went to college or not, are self-taught ( if you get what I mean). Because it takes personal effort and time to be one.
I was once in a very similar situation you are in. My college sucked and attendance was compulsory, don't allow it to waste your precious time.
Also, college placements are an easy way to gain experience. Applying off campus is harder.
Internships , freelance projects, open source contributions, ability to be good at data structures and algorithms(dsa), all these things really help.
Applying abroad for an indian is not so easy because you have tuff competition with people who already have experience who would want the same job.
Non-Indian companies in India don't hire you without a degree. Even if they do , it's a rare thing.
@@saurab1271 okay I got your point, I've one more question if I change my college now then it will be my 2nd gap year after 12th (because I took 1 drop year after 12th) , so will it affect my job in future or If I want to do mtech from abroad so will gap year affect that too and what about bca from distance university like is it a good option??
@shouryakumar9824 As long as you can explain your gap years , it shouldn't matter both in terms of getting a job and studying abroad. Just get a good score.
Distance learning has no value in India. No one will hire you, and it's hard to apply abroad, I wouldn't choose distance learning.
I made a simple website that took a persons local time, converted to a string of unix time for discord. This was to help many of my streamer friends making schedules for their streams. Now they could just enter their local time and everyone else would see it in their local time (be that sweden, america, or chile)
Very simple!
Great video! Thanks for sharing the wisdom!
2:40, I don't know what you're smoking, but this is completely unreasonable. At least here in Canada, all the engineers I know - and some of my friends, including myself - consider it lucky if you get two phone screenings per 100 applications.
Thank you! greatly appreciate by this content, it's opened my mind and gave me some plan to do for my future career as web developer.
Огромное спасибо за рабочую связку.
God bless this RUclips Channel. Doing the lord’s work
can't believe that begging for a job is no longer enough, with what's happening in the job market I won't be surprised if one day when you apply for a job to be a slave you need years of experience lmo you probably won't even see junior or entry-level slave you will senior level Slave with ridiculous Job requirements
Already happening. Looking for junior front end job, opened biggest portal with job listenings, whole 6 open positions for juniors, all require 2+ years of experience and regular/senior skills. Checked senior jobs, 200+ offers, guess what? 10+ years of experience, mastery in everything and wage? Just 1k more then junior. Good luck getting job if you just started in dev.
@@wykydytron Nah at this point I will just do my own thing, just doing my own thing starting a business and won't even bother begging anymore obviously I am not wanted I think learning software engineering/Development or coding just to get a job is no longer a thing in today's market you can only learn to code because you want to not because you want to make money by having a job
I remember back in the day in high school somebody told me that it's better to work as a handyman or plumber, dustbin/garbage man woodworking, event planner, vehicle mechanic..etc than a job that requires a 3+ degree let's be honest even if everyone gets one only few will get hired, anyways jobs like that was back in 2017 these jobs were a lot more prevalent and more consistent even till now it's a lot of imbalance it's 80% of people want to to work in jobs that require a degree which also explains the recent increase in competition these odd they pay might be terrible compared to the ones with degrees but honestly it's better to earn an average wage with more control and opportunities to start a tech business later on I mean imagine applying for jobs since 2022 until now and no luck
Okaaay...but what if a tech recruiter clones your project that has API keys inside a .env file that is not posted on GitHub...would they spend time creating their own on whatever websites that require them? I really doubt so
In fact I really doubt any recruiter would even look over your commits, let alone clone it. I assume only contributors would be interested on cloning and creating their own secret tokens
Realistically no one will look at your portfolio unless you have absolute masterpiece there. It's something you need to have but no one will go in deep to check it. They may just see name of project and based on that ask you to talk about it, like what you used to make it, why. They don't care about project at all they just want to hear you talking with understanding about it so they know you did not just copy pasted it.
This is BRILLANT! OUTSTANDING STUFF
So helpful course. Thanks
Hi Lane, Thank for all the tips you share with us, I really find amazing the information!!!
Thank you for such valuable information and for providing help to the programming community
I went out for drinks tonight and was watching a vid as I ate my midnight snack - anyway I guess my phone assumed I fell asleep cos of the time and I HEAR A FAMILIAR VOICE FROM MY DREAMS - this video. It’s playing it cos it thinks I’m asleep.
Scaring but beautiful
Nice One @bootdotdev Best of luck 👍
I am currently Self-taught in JavaScript, I want to get enough knowledge before applying for a degree or just self taught all the way to a job.
Got my IT 4 year-degree and started as a Tech Support Analyst intern then hired as a MS Power Platform dev. I struggle to explain to my wife (she's in healthcare) that although I got a job, it's going to require continuos self learning outside of work. Feeling imposter syndrome.
How can i land a web dev job with just html and css? Still learning JS. Hoping to find a Landing Page job or anything that only require html and css for now.
Need more than that.
So much helpful. Very much thanks😊
Thanks a lot! Something weird happend to me and I wanted to ask if it's normal in the industry. After probably 2-3 hundreds of applications one company contacted me. We had several round of different types of interviews and in the end they gave me two tasks to accomplish in three days. I wrote whole application that was checking all functionalities they were asking for. Than for a long time they did not give me any info what happend to my application. after 3 weeks or so I received rejection email and couldn't get a feedback. I worked so hard and it was extremely frustrating..
No, it does not look like normal to me. When they make you spend so much time for them, they must at least give you a feedback. Giving you a task to write a whole functioning application in the last stage is pretty weird to me as well.
This is gold. I really appreciate this.
The most insane part is how others can say you're unemployable yet you're the only one who says you are. I hate how life absolutely relies on a support network of strangers. I'd do it all myself if I could.
As a beginners and still learning u got this until u finally achieved ur goals
Any tips on how to come up with projects would be awesome. I need ideas, but am just not that creative at coming up with stuff out of thin air.
sure wish I seent chapter 1 like a decade ago when I graduated from college
basically just sat on my ass and barely have any work history or projects at all. rather unemployable, and can't really muster the will to grind hard at fixing that either :/
1 great project >>>> 3/4 normal projects
Do projects that are not necessary complex but need to be unique af.
Solve a real problem (even if it is small).
Put effort in coming up with a good title, simple description and strong motivation.
Specific Knowledge > Generic
Saying I know 1/2 languages is better than mentioning all the languages you know.
I am finally the first to comment here!
You're 2nd
Don’t understand. Other sources from the Economist to the FT write that there is a massive shortage of developers. Why do you say the market is brutal? You mean brutal as competitive, challenging?
yeah just competitive and challenging. There is still a shortage of devs, but that doesn't mean getting your *first* job is easy
there's a problem FT claims there's mass shortage of developers but they have those shortages because they want to hire experienced developers for the price or salary of interns that's why they have developer shortage problem
Countries that have salary compensation according to their skill/responsibilities don't have this problem ever
In real net job its opposite there has been net job loss in Canada and even EU but not US
There is no shortage of devs, recent months changed everything. After massive layoffs in IT most positions were filled. Look in my country in June of 2023 we had 200+ junior front end dev openings and such number was stable or higher over last 6+ years. Today we have 6... Yes, just 6 openings in front end junior dev position, all required 2+ years of commercial experience and intimate knowledge of JS + whatever main framework company uses. Web dev market is absolutely saturated. You can read about people that have 3+ years of experience being unable to find job in past few years. Do you know free code camp sells you story there are openings and you can get job? Because they sell bootcamps, if people realize in current state of thing development especially web dev is dead end they will loose money.
Bro I live in EU, look at my original reply, we went from having 200+ monthly openings to 6. EU also had layoffs recently, not as spectacular as fang but enough to destroy local job markets. It's borderline impossible to land junior job for actual juniors.
ayyye Don! great to see it!