When a Airsoft PEQ15 Beats A Real One : Somogear Peq15

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  • Опубликовано: 13 окт 2022
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    Finally putting this video out. The Somogear Peq15.
    While not something I'd personally put on a primary rifle. It certainly is something that should make Steiner/L3 sweat.
    With newer lasers like the DesignateIR, CTF2 making up the "high" end. And the this pushing the low end. The market for ~1000 dollar laser boxes is finally receiving pressure to improve.
    And hopefully enough to make L3 reconsider how bad the atipal C is.
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  • @MrRedrooster53
    @MrRedrooster53 Год назад +852

    The crane plug will still prolapse like a Steiner if you run a modbutton btw, also sample size of 1.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +164

      ooof. good to know. Mine didn't and that was what I was using to do the test.

    • @MrRedrooster53
      @MrRedrooster53 Год назад +44

      @@BrassFacts We were shooting w/ Nature and his just randomly died while using it, forced to press the regular top fire button now. Mine hasn't had any issues so far and I'm not really that worried about it.

    • @foofsamoyed
      @foofsamoyed Год назад +12

      This is a known issue with the mod and unity buttons

    • @Nathan-jh1ho
      @Nathan-jh1ho Год назад +4

      Why does that happen?

    • @99cobra2881
      @99cobra2881 Год назад +23

      @@Nathan-jh1ho
      I mic’d the male ends of both the surefire pressure switch and the modlite plug. They were identical in dimensions, it is the modlite modbutton that has a much stiffer wire that makes contact inside the laser that causes the Steiner to prolapse.

  • @beastd3
    @beastd3 Год назад +2280

    The crazy thing about this product is they could release a “pro” version or something of the sort for 100-150$ more for increased reliability and it would absolutely smoke the current civilian laser market.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +609

      it's quite depressing how badly the current "main" lasers are hamstrung

    • @gmodiscool14
      @gmodiscool14 Год назад +89

      @@BrassFacts do you think it's the same with others military products (i.e night vision, tactical headsets/radios, optics, and armor?) they all cost sooooo much.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +255

      @@gmodiscool14 some things cost a lot because of the process.
      NVGs for example has really low yields on quality tubes.

    • @gmodiscool14
      @gmodiscool14 Год назад +9

      @@BrassFacts ok

    • @MrSpicabooo
      @MrSpicabooo Год назад +47

      @@BrassFacts them damn tubes is just something u cant buy cheap or fake😔😭

  • @pcchris02
    @pcchris02 Год назад +810

    On the note of building a laser. I'm working on an open source LAM. The software and hardware bench prototyping is done. Just working on housing design now for rifle testing.

    • @no-sway3709
      @no-sway3709 Год назад +28

      Got a fake perst 4 from Hong cong. The housing is almost indistinguishable from the real one I've got.

    • @verysmallcats1374
      @verysmallcats1374 Год назад +19

      Holy cow Chris. I look forward to seeing your LAM!!

    • @robloxer6808
      @robloxer6808 Год назад +9

      @@no-sway3709 I just ordered the Hong Kong one too👀

    • @cerebralfirearms
      @cerebralfirearms Год назад +3

      That’s awesome brother. Keep us updated as to when it’s done. I’d love to check it out!!!

    • @contentcop
      @contentcop Год назад +24

      Would be cool to see you work with someone like print shoot repeat so we can get some tough, affordable and easy available housings

  • @TeardownSystems
    @TeardownSystems Год назад +643

    Fyi you can widen the flood of the ir illuminator! Theres a mod online, you have to take apart the peq but its worth it, and while your in there you can reinforce the solder points. After that its really nice.
    To add their warranty is faster than any other company and are mostly no questions asked. Also the reason they market airsoft is they are based in hong kong and its the only way they could sell them past itar.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +154

      cool! good to know, I might do that.

    • @lucasmartinez1679
      @lucasmartinez1679 Год назад +5

      What’s the mod sir?

    • @anasiangirly
      @anasiangirly Год назад +1

      @@TeardownSystems send me link as well

    • @MichaelStroup
      @MichaelStroup Год назад +6

      i need the link as well but i have no insta. Can you give cryptic directions to find it?

    • @mpsteidle
      @mpsteidle Год назад +3

      Can this be done on potted units?

  • @jeanchauvel6246
    @jeanchauvel6246 Год назад +57

    I have ~3k rounds on my MK18 with the UHP Somogear PEQ-15 running suppressed and unsuppressed and I’ve had zero issues. My lasers are coaligned pretty well. My only complaint is the built in button is loud to press so I only use the tape switch they provided. Sample size of 2 lol.

    • @Austrveg
      @Austrveg 5 месяцев назад +2

      it holds zero?????

    • @jeanchauvel6246
      @jeanchauvel6246 5 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah it holds zero. And I have one of the first models that isn’t potted.

  • @ep6727
    @ep6727 Год назад +159

    Sounds like a perfect match for something like a Tippmann M4-22. Just think about it: a rimfire AR, made by a paintball gun company, sporting an airsoft laser!

    • @sartorialdriver6528
      @sartorialdriver6528 Год назад +21

      I love using airsoft gear for my .22 plinkers. The gun looks gucci but costs toy money to build out.

    • @cefxsd40m-29
      @cefxsd40m-29 Год назад +3

      which also makes airsoft guns!

    • @VincitOmniaVeritas7
      @VincitOmniaVeritas7 Год назад +2

      I put a $60 Chinese, airsoft grade, PEQ15 rip off on my M&P 15-22 and it has hold zero so far remarkably well after thousands of rounds. .22 LR recoil is really easy on accessories. The same can’t be said about center fire cartridges: I mounted an airsoft grade light on the rail of a .380 acp pistol and it was dead after only one shot…

  • @Alfs_Armory
    @Alfs_Armory Год назад +262

    It is marketed as airsoft to stay off the radar.

    • @AwkwardYet
      @AwkwardYet Год назад +59

      a lot of airsoft things are

    • @shaggnar2014
      @shaggnar2014 Год назад +45

      I think you underestimate how dedicated some of the airsoft people are

    • @Nontacticalboy
      @Nontacticalboy Год назад +87

      @@shaggnar2014 actually what he meant, these products are somewhat designed to be used on real stuff, they just declare it as airsoft so it's not subjected to all the scrutiny of firearm regulations.

    • @shaggnar2014
      @shaggnar2014 Год назад +25

      @@Nontacticalboy I understand perfectly
      But the amount of ITAR violations that have happened usually from Japanese airsoft players that go super hard with their kid is kind of amazing lol
      Those guys are super into it and probably want high class lasers for their smuggled gen III NODS

    • @sonofsam6969
      @sonofsam6969 Год назад +16

      ​​​@@AwkwardYet can confirm, the 20-40 dollar Hydra mounts are practically the same quality as the "real" GBRS 500 dollar ones if not better, at the end of the day it's still a machined aluminum item as long as the manufacturing tolerances are there and the metal quality you're just paying for marketing at that point and randoms ass regulations or bureaucracy

  • @Sam21721
    @Sam21721 Год назад +66

    I purchased the NGAL they have available for 450 and it's absolutely hilarious. I use it on a Zenitco'd 74 and use it alongside friends of mine who are using actual PEQ-15As and it's on par with them in terms of brightness and illumination. So far I'm at 2400 rounds of 5.45 through it and it's still holding zero. The aluminum housing of the NGAL is also quite durable and looks extremely nice, even after surviving several MSWs and rainstorms.

    • @sypher4912
      @sypher4912 Год назад

      Who has an NGAL for $450?

    • @kutter_ttl6786
      @kutter_ttl6786 Год назад +14

      @@sypher4912 Somogear also has a replica NGAL. Their website lists the MSRP at $386 for the most expensive model.

    • @ImperiumLibertas
      @ImperiumLibertas Год назад +1

      @@kutter_ttl6786 looks like they're out of stock currently and should be back in stock by the end of March for the NGAL variant.

  • @Mrwatson185
    @Mrwatson185 Год назад +69

    Good stuff. You are like a mix of hop and admin. I think you’ll be at 100k+ in no time. Keep up the good work!

  • @darthtyranus378
    @darthtyranus378 Год назад +48

    a lot of cheap "airsoft" equipment have gotten pretty damn good now, 90 dollar optics with decent glass that can withstand the recoil of 7.62×54 are not uncommon now. these things like radios, active earpro, chest rigs, holsters and such are completely acceptable

    • @ragingdemon3127
      @ragingdemon3127 Год назад +13

      My favorites are the ACOG clones that actually hold zero on shotguns firing slugs

    • @stagalgiz1097
      @stagalgiz1097 Год назад +7

      I've run expensive plate carriers, and "airsoft" plate carriers. The "airsoft" plate carriers last longer.

    • @HugeCockAndBalls
      @HugeCockAndBalls Год назад

      @@ragingdemon3127 link me plssss

    • @tino897
      @tino897 9 месяцев назад +1

      I play Airosft ( just recently started more serious ) since I can’t own real firearms and have read before how people that use real gear are actually pleasantly surprised by airsoft gear and how some can be used with real firearms and hold.

    • @Austrveg
      @Austrveg 5 месяцев назад

      @@stagalgiz1097 tried the jpc2?

  • @EvanDickersonM81
    @EvanDickersonM81 Год назад +204

    More than likely what happened for these things greatness to be recognized is that some milsim player needed a cheap night vision laser or illuminator and it was either placed on a gas blowback or just absolutely beaten on an AEG and still held up. A lot of real shooters ex military and current Leo play at bigger events. Hundreds of people at once.

    • @50shadesofcerakote
      @50shadesofcerakote Год назад +48

      Or he just got bored as was like, "damn this is really nice under NV, lets see if it works on a real gun" and then it did and everybody lost their minds.
      When people are bored, theres innovation haha

    • @username-tv6uw
      @username-tv6uw Год назад

      Any of these events around NC,SC or GA?

    • @perchowski3021
      @perchowski3021 Год назад +6

      @@username-tv6uw yes, go to precision rifle expo at CCC shooting center in navasota next month. I will be there.. just got a somogear peq15.

    • @perchowski3021
      @perchowski3021 Год назад +3

      @@username-tv6uw Texas, so a bit further but it's not too far.

    • @50shadesofcerakote
      @50shadesofcerakote Год назад

      @@username-tv6uw There was just one in Barnwell, Sc like, last weekend haha

  • @SkeezyFPV
    @SkeezyFPV Год назад +2

    Great video. Thanks! You’re one of the few gun tubers I still watch 😊

  • @KalashmanNC
    @KalashmanNC Год назад +13

    Ordered one last month. Arrived in a week. Held up for a couple hundred rounds so far. Seems to be decent enough. Mine is a potted unit.

  • @gunnersecuador7515
    @gunnersecuador7515 Год назад +173

    Interesting and overall good review. I have to say that I am super impressed with your work and I am totally done with all the Tier 1 toolbags who are in it to hawk, over priced stuff I don't need anyway!
    Dudes like yourself, Hop, and Admin are quickly becoming the light and the way in this area. As a 20+ Veteran I appreciate the no B.S., no ads, no product pushing way you operate. All I want are the facts, with a little comedy, and opinion thrown in for good measure. The dog video is a +1 in my book! Keep it up... I plan to reroute my allowance away from a few B.S. sites and pump up your revenue.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +18

      appreciate it! glad you like it

    • @adamg574
      @adamg574 Год назад +1

      Agreed

    • @TheInfantry98
      @TheInfantry98 Год назад

      What was your mos? I was 11B

    • @TheInfantry98
      @TheInfantry98 Год назад

      Admin is a civilian who has no combat experience

    • @ronaldwhitman1377
      @ronaldwhitman1377 Год назад +1

      ​@@TheInfantry98okay what's your point? Most civilians with weekend paid training are more knowledgeable than your average infantryman lol

  • @GlassHalfEmpty66plus6
    @GlassHalfEmpty66plus6 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the info, I'm getting into the gun community and there's a lot to learn. Good to know there's dude's like you out there beta testing different components for all to see.

  • @TheLuka123123
    @TheLuka123123 Год назад +4

    I ordered one a few weeks ago and It arrived in a week. Haven't used it yet but seems to be pretty decent quality and works with my switches

  • @cerebralfirearms
    @cerebralfirearms Год назад +32

    I love this channel brother. Probably one of five, including mine, I can trust. I’m super tiny comparatively and only just started last year, but dig your approach. We need more honest feedback from people that aren’t paid shills. Hard to find on social media!!!

  • @TheChiperSdre34
    @TheChiperSdre34 Год назад +44

    I picked up a FMA LAB PEQ15 which seems to be similar to the Somogear if not from the exact same factory. From my limited testing, seems good to go with similar issues to yours. Glad to see the Chinese no name companies making a solid product that can fill the gap where US companies can't. EDIT: Do not buy the FMA LAB. It's low power and shit quality.

    • @sartorialdriver6528
      @sartorialdriver6528 Год назад +10

      Was your FMA PEQ the $300 one? There are a lot of sub-$100 ones that claim IR capabilities.

  • @goopgear
    @goopgear Год назад +63

    have 2k through mine. holding zero, mine is the newer generation past yours, they updated the silcone on the outside, not sure if the inside has changed. these are more then good to go

    • @aermotors
      @aermotors Год назад +1

      Can you post a purchase link or send me a message?

    • @N-A762
      @N-A762 Год назад +1

      when did yours come in mine came in monday cant wait to test it

  • @homerj109
    @homerj109 Год назад +1

    Great review. I have two somogears (NGAL and a non illum PEQ) that held up well on .22s but I was really impressed most with their lifetime warranty. I over adjusted my NGAL and broke the windage adjustment and SOMOGEAR send me a free replacement in about a week no hassles. My only gripe is the IR laser was a bit too bright and bloomy and not as clean and precise as my holosuns on low, but that was only really noticeable and a problem when zeroing and trying to get as tight of a group as possible. After zero its not really an issue for me.

  • @verysmallcats1374
    @verysmallcats1374 Год назад +29

    Great review. Glad to hear it performed well. This is super interesting, and I'm hoping it'll burn the market, and create better products. I can only hope!

  • @BobBob-il2ku
    @BobBob-il2ku Год назад +11

    Seems perfect for .22LR rifles. FYI you have to add the $10 potting service before checkout they don’t automatically come potted

  • @groundpounder0541
    @groundpounder0541 Год назад +1

    This has quickly become my favorite YT channel.

  • @gregbradshaw3410
    @gregbradshaw3410 Год назад +3

    Thanks for the review. I think a product like this may fall into a few categories. 1. The person that can't afford the best of gear and wants something, just in case or for fun. 2. The person that wants to look tacti cool, however, if looks is all you want, you can go cheaper. 3. The person or group of people that want backups or extra to supply others just in case. This would be similar to buying 2 Caniks for the price of 1 Glock. Sometimes budget items is the best someone can do. As for the airsoft community, there are some great training groups and events out there that use airsoft. Some of these go for days on end, so why not have stuff like this. Most of us don't have tens of thousands of dollars to spend on our setups and not have to sleep on the couch, so stuff like this that gets us in at an entry level is cool. This could be a product that qualifies as "why buy one, when you can get two at a fraction of the price, and now you have a backup?"

  • @zubysaboss1062
    @zubysaboss1062 Год назад +50

    I agree with you about using full power lasers for airsoft lol. Seems kinda dangerous to me

    • @SuperXrayDoc
      @SuperXrayDoc Год назад +18

      FP lasers are overhyped. They're primarily used for signaling airstrike locations from extremely far away in battlefields. Using them in an average shooting range you're more likely to end up blinding yourself

    • @kaisercollins3097
      @kaisercollins3097 Год назад

      To blind someone with a full powered lazer would require very specific placement for a very long time. Considering that usually means someone is about to shoot you wellllllll…..
      Full powered illuminators are not overhyped they are under hyped it’s why idiots didn’t get the perst and bought dbal i2s and other such trash

    • @Kaotix_music
      @Kaotix_music Год назад +15

      For airsoft? Yessssss. For real firearms? Well…if you’re pointing a firearm at a person? There’s a very good reason and a laser is the last thing they should worry about

    • @50shadesofcerakote
      @50shadesofcerakote Год назад +12

      @@SuperXrayDoc We want the FP for the illuminators, not the lasers haha

    • @rekerboi1125
      @rekerboi1125 Год назад +3

      @@SuperXrayDoc If you knew what FP lasers are meant to be used for then you would know nobody would be using them at some average range under normal conditions.

  • @coltwasneverhere5239
    @coltwasneverhere5239 Год назад

    Your videos are so good. Love they style delivery and tone

  • @midwestunicornhunting9970
    @midwestunicornhunting9970 Год назад +2

    Ordered one of these with the potting early this summer. It's been on a S&W 15-22 for around approximately 3,000 rounds between the kids and I. No issues yet. Not sure how it will like our winters yet but I have no regrets for 250$. Good trainer with the possibility of being a backup for the PERST. "You'll fry your eye out kid."

  • @tehashun
    @tehashun Год назад +103

    Just a warning, I tried ordering one awhile back for funsies and it got seized by customs. Somogear got me a refund after explaining to them what that meant though but I never tried to re-order.

    • @MrRedrooster53
      @MrRedrooster53 Год назад +38

      Mine came in through the Port of Miami without issues, probably just some bad luck. I'm assuming one of the reasons Sumogear doesn't offer the Zenitco clones anymore is to do with that.

    • @davideinstein7887
      @davideinstein7887 Год назад +3

      Never had issues with mine too

    • @EDDSkitz
      @EDDSkitz Год назад +12

      Always ship DHL

    • @caseysmith8831
      @caseysmith8831 Год назад +4

      Which website would I find on to buy ? Thanks

    • @trevorhawkins8757
      @trevorhawkins8757 Год назад +1

      Was it shipped to Wisconsin or Illinois? It says on their site a lot of them shipped to those two states get seized for some reason.

  • @Airsoftforall
    @Airsoftforall Год назад +68

    I have a $70 one that I have on a rifle. I removed the visible light led and replaced it with an ir led, cost me $13. That was 2 years ago. It's still going strong. Bought a second one and completed the ir mod and placed on my 458. Damn thing works like a mack truck! Both hold zero out to 100 yards easily. Could push further to 200 yards and still hit thorax sized steel.

    • @adamisherwood7163
      @adamisherwood7163 Год назад +3

      Do you have a link to the replacement IR LED? I got one of these to mess around with to see if it holds zero, thx.

    • @Stefan.von.Bischhoffshausen
      @Stefan.von.Bischhoffshausen Год назад +3

      I have been thinking about doing this but couldn't find a proper IR led. Could you share the one you used please?

    • @Skylyned
      @Skylyned Год назад

      Still waiting

    • @BigJazzHands
      @BigJazzHands Год назад

      What's the build list?

  • @toddinfl
    @toddinfl Год назад

    About time you put this vid out.

  • @rpnvg
    @rpnvg Год назад

    Great video! Looks like I’ll go ahead and pick one up for my Tippmann M4-22 SBR + Dead Air Mask that I use for quiet NVG training.

  • @thomashansen9390
    @thomashansen9390 Год назад +4

    I bought one of these and have one night shoot with it so far, roughly 100 rounds. Zeroed well and performed awesome. The fake unity taps switch it came with kept coming out of the housing. Not too worried, I’ll just put a dap of glue on the outside of the house and it’ll be great

  • @andrewglaze2257
    @andrewglaze2257 Год назад +7

    Definitely still a spring chicken here, but in my (admittedly limited) experience, chinese knockoff doesnt ALWAYS mean garbage, it just doesnt have any sort of consistency that we would expect from the real thing. Sometimes you can find a gem that *works* for a fraction of the cost, but most of the time itll either not work as desired or itll break soon after the purchase

  • @jamesm8965
    @jamesm8965 Год назад

    Very helpful, comment for the algorithm to keep you moving up.
    Keep it up man.

  • @OptimisimAndCoke0
    @OptimisimAndCoke0 Год назад +1

    Been waiting for this review.

  • @BlueLoneWolf54
    @BlueLoneWolf54 Год назад +9

    You made me interrupt 'Detroit Rock City' >:

  • @50shadesofcerakote
    @50shadesofcerakote Год назад +7

    Just bought one a couple days ago. We'll see how she goes. Their customer service seems to be pretty good though, I forgot to add the potting service to my cart cause I was in a hurry, and I messaged them the next day asking if they could add it and they responded within 10min saying they would.

  • @slowcarsfast108
    @slowcarsfast108 Год назад

    @5:24 Noticed to added a "speed hole" to that table! :) Great review!

  • @coreyperez13
    @coreyperez13 Год назад

    I've never seen your content before but bumped into it. Sub'd and commented. Hope it feeds the pup. Good luck in the future.

  • @Uncle_Anthoni
    @Uncle_Anthoni Год назад +3

    You and hop are doing the lord's work

  • @masonpasteur3490
    @masonpasteur3490 Год назад +5

    Welp I'm buying this right now.
    All done should get it on Thursday

  • @gabrielduran8034
    @gabrielduran8034 Год назад

    I enjoy all you're content , it's very informative
    Keep putting out , no homo

  • @RoJSimpson
    @RoJSimpson Год назад +1

    Love the review! Didn't have any prolapsing issues with my Modbutton Lite but I did have issues with one mode cutting out. Also mine broke when i dropped my rifle at ~3 feet off the ground

  • @kbar11
    @kbar11 Год назад +38

    Keep up the good work! love seeing the channel grow in method and style. Would like to see a vid on the CFT2 that hop looked at and maybe compare it to this.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +21

      perhaps, that's really more his thing. I'll be checking out the designateIR next week though and that's very promising.

    • @justinwalters5017
      @justinwalters5017 Год назад

      @@BrassFacts I've been curious about that laser as well, looking forward to the video.

    • @Kevin117
      @Kevin117 Год назад

      @@BrassFacts is your illuminator square or round? Heard that released an updated version with a round illuminator

    • @jacobgill4808
      @jacobgill4808 Год назад

      So if they are making these in Chinese sweatshops it's safe to say China would be a much tuffer opponent on the battlefield than Russia has shown to be

  • @M.H.D.actual
    @M.H.D.actual Год назад +3

    I remember watching a video of a dude with a wish.china blue laser and he was light paper on fire, then he replaced the diode and ran more power to it and was catching stuff on fire from pretty far distances.

  • @jedeckert9525
    @jedeckert9525 9 месяцев назад +2

    Imagine buying $15000 night vision goggles and running air soft equipment on your rifle.

  • @Bruski_Two_Zero
    @Bruski_Two_Zero Год назад

    Nova action footage at the end: 10/10
    I've looked at these guys once before out of curiosity (can't recall what piqued my interest in the first place since I don't have NV), but it's neat to see something like this actually not being total hot garbage

  • @alanluscombe8a553
    @alanluscombe8a553 5 месяцев назад

    Man I recently found your videos and love your channel.

  • @TylerJames-gf8ms
    @TylerJames-gf8ms Год назад +4

    I’m at the $5 tier now. Keep up the great content bud. Thought exercises between you and Hop are great.

  • @chrisr.1039
    @chrisr.1039 Год назад +46

    So glad you made this video, as a broke boy I looked deep into somogear and purchased their ngal replica. Quality is pretty good and people have tested it with 5.56/300 blackout with no issue for several hundred rounds. The market for these type of devices is ridiculous to me so I'm looking forward to pushing somogear through its paces on my 14.5

    • @nuclearbeast7905
      @nuclearbeast7905 Год назад

      How is the flash light

    • @chrisr.1039
      @chrisr.1039 Год назад

      @@nuclearbeast7905 doesn't have a flashlight, Visible Laser + IR Laser + IR illuminator.

    • @nuclearbeast7905
      @nuclearbeast7905 Год назад +1

      @@chrisr.1039oh okay cool

    • @revolutionanarchy713
      @revolutionanarchy713 Год назад +1

      They don’t hold zero. Sounds like an issue to me, lol!

  • @ZorroDaddy
    @ZorroDaddy 11 месяцев назад

    Wise and focused, thank you again.

  • @Hotcarl1
    @Hotcarl1 Год назад

    Bro love the video idea. I've always wanted someone to do this

  • @Fede_uyz
    @Fede_uyz Год назад +6

    Make sure to coalign the lasers and make sure to kinda fix reliability issues, charge $450 and you got the best option

  • @justinwalters5017
    @justinwalters5017 Год назад +3

    I really enjoy the videos like this, we're all just trying to expand our capability with without having to sell a kidney. Sometimes, spending good money on higher end stuff is necessary, sometimes it's not.

  • @stevenkennedy4130
    @stevenkennedy4130 Год назад

    Ol' Nova dog, has a pretty good life, I'm guessing. Thanks for the share!!

  • @Echoes07
    @Echoes07 Год назад

    Sounds great for the H&K MP5 chambered in 22LR! Thanks for the info!

  • @scottrutledge9142
    @scottrutledge9142 Год назад +3

    Currently at 1200-1300rnd count on a 22 ar platform. Newer potted version. Did get my ir illuminator to center on the laser. 10.3 geisssle is up next

  • @samuelkuntz3393
    @samuelkuntz3393 Год назад +8

    I actually bought a Airsoft DBAL for $150 just to try the IR laser and stuff and threw it on a AK. At first it had trouble holding zero but I set it and locktighted the screws so they wouldn't walk out and it works like a absolute charm. About 2000 rounds with it and it still drives nails and I am pretty sure it's full power too. Might not be the most durable option. But for less than $200 I am very happy with it

  • @OpieInTheSmokies
    @OpieInTheSmokies Год назад

    great video testing several of these now. Most people can’t afford Gucci shit right away. These are the best budget intro option out there.

  • @yurimaguski2558
    @yurimaguski2558 Год назад +1

    FINALLY A REVIEW ON THIS THING

  • @ericks1979
    @ericks1979 Год назад +5

    Always wanted a real one, but never planned on having NODs and didn't want to pay for a neutered one. This looks like it would scratch the itch.
    Then if I ever got NODs I'd have something to play with still as I financially recover.

  • @jacobklein1856
    @jacobklein1856 Год назад +5

    FMA, another Chinese manufacturer, makes an LA5 UHP variant that goes for about $500 and is advertised as being able to endure 556 and 308 recoil. Through 1500 rounds of 556 over 18 months, it has proven to not have any of the downsides of the Somogear.

    • @charmingmander331
      @charmingmander331 Год назад +1

      Got a link?

    • @etam083
      @etam083 Год назад

      Link?

    • @hellcatdave1
      @hellcatdave1 Год назад +1

      What FMA are you looking at. It sounds like you're talking about the Invisible Sight PEQ.

  • @salokrajven453
    @salokrajven453 Год назад

    As a project I made a peq15 and to solve the issue of keeping ZERO and not shaking parts loose I used "instamorph" and molded it as one solid piece inside a peq box. It still holds zero and no issues six years later

  • @robertbrancato968
    @robertbrancato968 Год назад +2

    First off, I wanted to say this was a surprisingly enjoyable video, it hasn't convinced me to put this on my main firearm however it does have some really good training applications on my M&P-15/22 for night drills.
    Probably why this video caught my eye like it did is because I have an affinity for equipping "airsoft gear" on my 22 caliber training rifle.
    Though it's probably not a consistently good look for a RUclipsr too vouch for airsoft items (based on the premise of 22 caliber trainers) the off-brand trijicon ACOGs are a surprisingly good quality optic for "trainers" that offer comparable weight / ergonomics and retical design, though I've already drug mine through the mud, I know quite a few people that would enjoy a more professional review.

    • @liamvosefski2795
      @liamvosefski2795 Год назад

      Yeah the fact that they explicitly say to not put it on an actual firearm would keep me from running it seriously. Its just not meant to stand up to recoil over time doesn't mean that its a bad product just that putting it on a real gun is something that isn't intended for it. .22 recoil is basically airsoft level though so it should be absolutely fine on one. Or even temporarily on an ar 15 but id expect issues after enough rounds fired

  • @sartorialdriver6528
    @sartorialdriver6528 Год назад +13

    Great timing with this topic. Someone recently posted a pic of their AR on reddit with one of these units, and there were a few comments backing up his claim that his unit made it through a few thousand rounds and is still kicking properly. I wonder what some of the other "airsoft" IR units are like, given the OTAL-Cs and PERSTs are like $100 and made of aluminum.
    Also, someone reviewed a digital NV device called the NV10 that was pretty impressive quality for $400. Maybe a viable Sub-$1k night vision set up will be available soon, but shrouded under the deceptive guise of cheap airsoft parts.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +9

      I doubt it on the sub 1000 dollar NV at least for a bit longer. The tech isn't quite there for it. Give it another 5 years and we'll probably see a "okay" digital night vision setup

    • @sarron7620
      @sarron7620 Год назад +1

      @@BrassFacts I bought a TKKOK NVG 10 and paired it up with a Ebay Sotac Perst 4. and running on a 9mm PCC for almost a year now with no problems from either device. I wont call it the poor man's setup but I will call it the cheap man's NV setup

  • @nuckchorris3054
    @nuckchorris3054 9 месяцев назад +4

    doesn't surprise me at all, you should see what China can do with replica watches

  • @lock7852
    @lock7852 Год назад

    Badass dude,will be supporting you for sure,love doggy🥰

  • @MaxBasedMexican88
    @MaxBasedMexican88 9 месяцев назад

    Yall make such awesome videos

  • @PigPharmaceuticals
    @PigPharmaceuticals Год назад +5

    The fact that full power laser components are relatively easy to source makes me wonder why it’s not common for people to buy civilian lasers and just swap out the internals. That way you get the benefits of a “duty” housing with full power capabilities.
    I’m sure I’m not the first person to think of this so I guess there has to be a reason it’s not viable, but fuck if I know what it is.

  • @Apocolovids
    @Apocolovids Год назад +4

    My first thought was to have a couple of these to throw on different secondary guns easily adapted for night fighting, but to have a separate primary (pricey) set up for 'sErIoUs' use.

    • @sartorialdriver6528
      @sartorialdriver6528 Год назад +2

      That's the route I'm going.

    • @johnleyva4619
      @johnleyva4619 Год назад +1

      This would be ideal, no need to drop big bucks on “real” lasers anymore

  • @OllieTalksAirsoft
    @OllieTalksAirsoft Год назад

    Great Video, loved the rant 🤣

  • @ChrisLeathal
    @ChrisLeathal Год назад

    Thanks for the review!

  • @luciankristov6436
    @luciankristov6436 Год назад +4

    Im actually building my own module myself. Using all class 3 laser diodes and im using a driver that also has the ability to dim or brighten the laser and light. Im designing a housing on CAD and will do a lost PLA cast of it.

    • @N-A762
      @N-A762 Год назад

      Have any place you posting this I am interested myself

    • @ATruckCampbell
      @ATruckCampbell Год назад

      This is the kind of stuff you need to make videos of.

  • @adamgriffin
    @adamgriffin Год назад +4

    What sold me on this unit was a guy had 1,500+ rounds on his SCAR(and still counting) with the Somogear and its still holding Zero. Should have a potted one coming in this tuesday🤟

    • @perchowski3021
      @perchowski3021 Год назад +6

      Just got my potted one in the other day. Visual laser is powerful too! Tried to get our cat to chase beam on low power but you can see the laser in the air so it didn't fool the cat 😕😬

    • @Internaught-The-Wise
      @Internaught-The-Wise Год назад

      We're did you see that at? The scar mounted one?

    • @perchowski3021
      @perchowski3021 Год назад

      So far been holding zero with 10.3in 5.56 suppressed. Only have ~50rds through gun with the somogear peq mounted but so far so good!

  • @kevinwilkinson7558
    @kevinwilkinson7558 Год назад

    Great video. Great unbiased info

  • @CooperHayes0795
    @CooperHayes0795 Год назад

    I use pvs-14's and an AR-15 for Hog Hunting. This is exactly what I was looking for thank you. You have a new sub now.

  • @Spanishproject123100
    @Spanishproject123100 Год назад +6

    Somogear makes neat stuff. I once herd them described as wanting to be the Holosun of lasers. Idk if they'll ever be like that, but I know that I'm interested and I'd like to see their success.

  • @mohawk3371
    @mohawk3371 Год назад +5

    For someone, like myself, who views passive aiming as the primary night time aiming mechanism this thing is very doable.

  • @dpchief_216
    @dpchief_216 Год назад +2

    Fellow Utah guy who owns one of these and uses it for airsoft on a gas blowback. Far superior to its Amazon counterparts, but for some reason I can’t coalign the Illuminator the laser. Other than that, and buyers remorse for getting the black one and not the tan one, it does the job!

  • @nopenope5812
    @nopenope5812 Год назад +2

    The landscape is freaking sweat! You are so lucky!

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +1

      indeed. It's nice out here.

  • @PolymerLad
    @PolymerLad Год назад +6

    My somo peq has surprised me that it hasn't broken, yet. But it does give me an IR laser/illuminator stand in until I can get an actually good unit.
    Does your unit's lasers shift if you press on the adjustment screws? Not turn, just apply pressure.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +1

      nope on the laser. Yes on the illum

  • @Hoplopfheil
    @Hoplopfheil Год назад +6

    Somogear? More like OH NO BEER!
    (Brock doesn't like beer he prefers Mike's Harder Lemonade, and my algorithm comments are becoming decreasingly coherent)

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +4

      mikes harder is my jam, but Ryan is slowly forcing me to drink real beer. Soon I might be a real man

  • @ToysRUsKid_Critter
    @ToysRUsKid_Critter Год назад

    Excellent vid brother

  • @jakelapoint
    @jakelapoint 11 месяцев назад

    I like your straight up no bullshit approach. It either is worth a look or it isn’t.. and this is what you pay. It was worth it for me and that’s good enough for the moment.

  • @JackAce7
    @JackAce7 Год назад +11

    I plan on using this for the foreseeable future, in the 1k rounds or so Ive put through it on my rifle, granted not all at night, it has held up pretty solid. My IR laser doesnt sit in the middle of my Illuminator, even after trying to adjust it, but it still works. They have an NGAL clone thats had a Gen 2 coming out soon and I plan on getting that as well.
    I have this on my primary rifle, because its my first step into laser devices and tbh I dont see a reason to drop 1k on a laser module as long as this keeps holding up. I would love a real full power IR unit, but the grey area of owning one isnt very appealing

    • @prella7666
      @prella7666 Год назад +1

      You own one rn lol

    • @JackAce7
      @JackAce7 Год назад

      @@prella7666 I plan on owning a few as long as they keep improving

    • @SkeezyFPV
      @SkeezyFPV Год назад

      It’s perfectly legal to own a fp. The issue is importing because of itar and can’t manufacture in the US because of the fda. It has no application to private ownership though. Just don’t buy a hot unit online or you may be in trouble or try leaving the US with it. That’s an itar violation I believe without state dept approval. Nobody is going to knock on your door. It’s not like a hellfire shit trigger lmao!

    • @hunner_gunner7423
      @hunner_gunner7423 Год назад

      Where do you actually pick these up?

    • @JackAce7
      @JackAce7 Год назад

      @@hunner_gunner7423 you can pick these up on Somogears website!

  • @edanpino5035
    @edanpino5035 Год назад +3

    Seems like the perfect product for me. Not because I'm just some poor (which I am, please no bully), but also because I'm looking at getting into night vision, and it seems like literally the best, cheapest option. If it breaks to the point I can't fix it, I can get another. Or I can go with the Phantom Hill module that just recently got an update

    • @miniapplesun
      @miniapplesun Год назад

      Yes! Relegate it as a backup or for another gun when you can buy a "real" laser. Get a Crye night cap to get you by until a helmet, then spend as much as you can afford on the tube quality.

  • @_keepitsocial
    @_keepitsocial 6 месяцев назад

    Own it, bought potted and we were hip shooting 100 yards with this thing no problem. It's held zero. Probably bought it because I saw this video a long time ago btw and bought it way before my NVGs. Now ive been playing with it in the dark too and the IR is good but not very "focused". All in all, it works for me and I use it on my main rig! Love the vids, keep 'em coming

  • @6cm503
    @6cm503 Год назад +2

    I subscribed on one notion. Dogs in every video. Also, legit info on the subject. But for real.. Dogs.

  • @RenoMay
    @RenoMay Год назад +6

    Waiting till the end of this video to buy one for a second NV gun

    • @RenoMay
      @RenoMay Год назад +2

      Non aligned lasers is a sad issue :(

    • @shaneciccarelli-palmer2962
      @shaneciccarelli-palmer2962 Год назад

      What LAM are you using now?

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +1

      it really is. It basically relegates that feature to a dog toy.
      I'll be reviewing a pretty nice laser next week. It's a bit pricy, but the performance is quite impressive

  • @amagicalpotato
    @amagicalpotato Год назад +6

    There is a non-zero population of people who subscribe to this channel but don't even like guns, they're just here for the Nova footage.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  Год назад +2

      probably double digit percent

  • @henrymaz1697
    @henrymaz1697 Год назад

    damn that footage at the end there was beautiful

  • @rodgerbrennan4523
    @rodgerbrennan4523 Год назад

    Thank you for the review.👍👍

  • @claterpillar1
    @claterpillar1 Год назад +8

    The price difference is in the gate keeping.

    • @SkeezyFPV
      @SkeezyFPV Год назад

      The price difference is in China stealing our military technology and not incurring any r&d costs, patent infringement, all while likely using slave labor but you be you. Fund communism at your own demise…

    • @taint9690
      @taint9690 Год назад +3

      Very true. If you market anything as super operator gucci. People will flock to it and not question the price

  • @park51yut44
    @park51yut44 Год назад +4

    Regulations are what make this all expensive. I want a light weight ir/vis only and good luck finding any. I use a Steiner pistol ir only for my SBR and it seems pretty good out to 200 which at night is really hard to see. Cons are the batteries are impossible to find and I can’t use lights at the same time.

    • @SkeezyFPV
      @SkeezyFPV Год назад

      It’s not really regulations but instead it’s a relatively small market item and not very profitable for most companies to be able to enter and offer a cheaper alternative without using stolen tech and copycat products. Also, defense contractors can’t inflate the price of a product for .mil use while selling the same product to civilians at a fraction of the cost. It’s one or the other. DoD is the main purchaser of nv kit. Which market would you go after if you ran L3/teledyne or Steiner? I’d be hawking my shit to the pentagon personally. And as a taxpayer I don’t think it’s wise to pay a defense contractor a price above what a civilian would pay. This tech is stolen by China and cuts out all of the R&D costs that went into the product by others. I guess Persts are probably unobtanium these days but I’m sure happy mine is in the US right now sold off on eBay by corrupt Russia while their shitbags run iron sights in Ukraine lmao.

    • @park51yut44
      @park51yut44 Год назад

      You have a point but nv and lasers are highly regulated. The actual cost of components is not that expensive I get r&d costs but still. A peq-15 is not a 1500 piece of equipment.

  • @wildmanoutdooradventures9890
    @wildmanoutdooradventures9890 Месяц назад

    Keep it up man!!!!!

  • @patriotfromthenoket6141
    @patriotfromthenoket6141 Год назад

    This video was awesome!

  • @chap23305
    @chap23305 Год назад +4

    Aaaaaaaaand they're gone....

  • @CarverofDong
    @CarverofDong Год назад +5

    Took me about a week to get mine from ordering, no problems with customs or anything. I think the "airsoft only" marketing is mainly to circumvent import and export regulations, especially with export for a possible warranty repair. What really cemented it for me is that they specifically state that the potting service is not what you should have for firearms use, which is asinine. Good call-out on the illuminator focus zero shift, hadn't noticed that yet but that explains some things. Thanks for the video and looking forward to the next one!

    • @minutemenapparel
      @minutemenapparel Год назад

      Did you end up doing the potting service anyways?

    • @lucasmartinez1679
      @lucasmartinez1679 Год назад

      What’s potting service?

    • @CarverofDong
      @CarverofDong Год назад

      @@minutemenapparel yes, it's exactly what you'd want should you want it to hold up to recoil, so I went ahead and paid the extra 10 bucks. Brass Facts goes over it in the video a bit

    • @CarverofDong
      @CarverofDong Год назад +2

      @@lucasmartinez1679 it (potting) is encasing the components in a nonconductive material, such as resin or silicone, to ensure that the parts are protected for physical shock and incursions of debris or liquid.

  • @levig9274
    @levig9274 Год назад +2

    they have a pro version its labled as the NGAL. its full aluminum, smaller then the peq15, and has some updates in tech.

  • @cmbara102
    @cmbara102 Год назад +1

    Some of the issues you're listing are pretty similar to the issues we had with our PEQ15s when I was in lmfao.