Is the STI still a relevant driver's car or are we due for a massive change? Also I was wrong about steering. Only the WRX got the electronic assist. Huge thanks to Patreon supporters for making this content possible
I believe we’re due for a massive change. As much as I like the exterior and interior, the powertrain is very outdated. The EJ25 at this point is like.. 20 years old? Maybe for the next gen they use the FA24 from the Ascent. Anyways, how’s your day going?
Got a new ‘20 STI before they mess it up with too much tech and maybe a non-manual transmission. It is fantastic to be able to still be a new car with hydraulic steering.
By now, every sportscar enthousiast knows that it's not Hp alone what counts, it's the power/weight ratio. Put that same 300 hp in a 1200kg classic Impreza GT, and see what happens....
I disagree to a point. Sure I'm only 24 but I live around highways. Everything is a highway here. I use 0-60 and more importantly 5-60 to understand how much space I need to safely merge on the highway.
@@willpittman7593 don’t be afraid!! If you’re nervous about ringland, know any year model pre 2018 has extended warranty upwards of 100k miles for ringland. And 18+ has better internals. Also fwiw, only the bad instances of this car blowing up are documented on the Internet. The greater majority has had little to no issues. Amazing car :)
@@amador4417 As a first car you may be better off with the simple WRX. The FA20 is a more reliable engine, that can still make lottsa HP if you want to
same! i love the 2007 sti since it's the last one to have that classic design but i really like this one as well. people are looking forward to 2022 sti concept but i personally don't like it it becomes unrecognizable in my opinion
The current gen sti disproves the 'new is always better (or necessary)' theory. It's a total blast to drive. If they never improve it, it's still be a blast to drive. And it's certainly fast enough, as is, to scare the crap out of yourself on public roads.
@@leka_the_prophet My wife as the 2016 (almost the same as 2020). It's a fantastic driving car. But it doesn't look as good as either of the concept cars...
@@bikebudha01 Ah see for me, I never really cared much for the concept cars. Glad to hear you guys enjoy the 2016! Lmk if I can share some Subaru Ambassador goodies with you
@@noto3402 get the STI you won’t regret it but if do get one, make sure you get 2019+ ,noting below that. I had a 19 WRX and it got totaled 8 months ago and I ended up get 19 STI 3 months ago and I love it so much.
I have a bone stock 2020 STI and I love every minute with it. I agree with the exhaust too, it's loud enough for its power and it has a great rumble as is.
5:11 stoked to hear you say this! I've never once felt the need for more power in my STi. I always get a chuckle when people yell about this car being slow haha
Exactly and also 400whp is nothing for an sti so if you wanted it wouldn’t be a problem to get more power in the future. Could even push 500-600whp if you wanted to sacrifice reliability a bit
I've owned my sti for 5 years now. I definitely would like to see more power. 300hp is nothing for modern cars nowadays. I LOVE my sti, but the top end is extremely lackluster. 1st gear to 3rd is great, but trying to pull from 4th is like I'm in a prius. 🤣 I'm doing an engine swap for an ej iag closed deck longblock, forged internals etc. Instead of buying a new sti, im going to put that money into my old one and have 400whp+
@@stefan_4508 my guy lol. 400whp is a substantial money pit. fuel system alone is going to be $2000-2500, the turbo, an extra $1200-1400, the downpipe, $500, the intake/air upgrades, another 600. and that's cutting literally every corner in doing that build. not to mention your tune which will run you up another 1k. realistically to get 400whp in ANY boxer engine, in a reliable form, expect to pay I would say no less than 8k and then "sacrifice reliability a bit" 500-600whp, Idk how long you think those piston ringlands will last, I've seen them fail in 5k miles of a brand new off the lot EJ :( sad but true.
@@stefan_4508 are you smoking crack? if not, must be some good H. My girlfriend has a built Sti. blew it up at 360whp on stock block, rebuilt it with pistons and rods, made 400whp for 2 months before it grenaded. spent 18k on a new turbo setup and engine and it makes 480whp with almost no potential for more. Subarus are slow, unreliable, and absolute money pits. If you have 50k to throw at it, have fun.
5:48 is extremely accurate - by the time you get to the speed limit, or even slightly beyond, it's all over and now you're back to cruising at speeds that won't attract law enforcement. And you didn't even use more than a fraction of what is available to you. At least in cars like the Civic type-R (or the STI), you can enjoy the run from 0 - whatever because the driving experience (and the manual transmission) engages you every step of the way.
I'm 49 and could've bought pretty much any car under $100K that I wanted... and I bought an STI. It's. Just. So. Much. Fun. And it's not expensive to maintain. Great car.
@@jasekanistanaux3159 The Model S was on the short list... but there aren't any Super Chargers (except at resorts) where I like to drive on the weekends. When Tesla's network gets better, I'll reconsider.
@@ezekiel8487 Nope it has an aftermarket one, it was stock with an exhaust when I bought it at 74,000 miles, and now has 96,000 miles with basic bolt ons and a dyno tune
I test drove one of these a year ago and it’s such a wonderful throwback to fun, old school cars. It’s not the fastest, smoothest, or most comfortable car but it made me smile the entire time and that’s what actually matters with cars like this.
One of my fave things about these cars is that they ask you when your birthday is, so it can display a cute little happy birthday message for you when the time comes! I probably would have been looking hard at one of these if my budget was 30k instead of 20k.
Now on my 2nd STI, a no-wing new dead-stock 2020 (except for snow tires) after having a new ‘06 for 6 years and 76k miles also dead-stock. A great analog daily driver as is.
@@josel8311 yes, an excellent daily driver on good roads. The ride is firm for outstanding handling so rough roads are noticable , avoiding potholes on the 19 inch performance wheels. Get the short-throw shifter option, makes the STI a total blast to drive daily.
Yes, that EJ is almost as old as I am, but I still love it. Love how Subaru hasn’t smoothed over all of the rough edges of the STI. It’s definitely been refined over the years, but they haven’t just engineered out all of the quirks and personality. Hope the next gen WRX/STI retain this same character.
to be fair, in 2019 theyve improved strngth of the pistons and rings, then 2020 i think it was the con rods, then 2021 was block casting, stock ones pushing 600 whp for 15k+miles
I forgot how quiet stock STI are. It´s really a shame Subaru doesn´t sell this in Europe anymore, what a great all around daily car with big potencials.
This thing is a survivor and we thank Subaru for that. I drive my 4th STI since 2006. add a few Cobb bits (short shift, accessport STG1+, intake, exhaust), mudflaps and you have a raw engaging little 365days ride.
Agree with the it has enough power and you won't lose your license...it is perfect. Great video. A true gem of a car and the last affordable analog car. Wonderful car stock...the STI 6 speed is super strong...unlight the early wrx 5 speeds.... Best drivers car left under 85k.
Honestly, it´s one of my dream cars. I just really like everything about it. This would be a perfect daily driver, which would add fun to every trip. I love these, thanks for the video!
5:11 yesss thank you!! I have a stage 2 F80 pushing nearly 600 crank and it’s a literal rocket ship. It’s gotten to a point now where it is too fast, it’s not fun anymore unless I’m on a track because I can’t go fast without hitting like 110 or 120 which is way too fast for public roads. These cars that are “slow” are so much more fun for backroad driving
I’ve driven a stock one thru country backroads, that stock 300hp is perfect. It’s not too fast and definitely not slow. When I get mine a few bolt ons and a tune is perfect
I personally own the 2020 version of this car and I legitimately almost never put it in sports sharp mode. This car has realistic power and I think the AWD system and handling of the car makes up for the speed. Also this is a great car to have if you live in snowy areas and you still want a fast dependable car. Although, if you do buy this car try to get a set of smaller tires. In my experience the only times I get stuck is when the snow gets packed inside the wheel wells.
What you said about enjoying “slower” vehicles with personality rather than a quick numb sprint to 60 is exactly why i traded my mk7r for a brz ts a few years back. Now i find myself looking at a low milage sti again, awd in New England is a game changer.
I’ve had a 2016 WRX since 2016 and after 60,000 miles I still love it. I think it strikes a very nice balance between analog and digital that will be difficult to find in the near future. I also think the 2.0 with the smaller, twin scroll turbo in the WRX is better for regular driving than the 2.5 in the STi. Basically I’m saying if you can find one in good condition used, it would be a great option for a lot of upstart car enthusiasts. Just make sure to buy a second set of wheels and tires (one winter and one summer set) to get the most out of the car year round.
@@ianholmquist8492 yea stock i wasnt pleased with either. Now, I have several mods to the shifter and I really like it. Its not a honda type r shifter or mazda mx5 shifter that would be glorious lol.
been through a few of your videos now and wanted to say I appreciate your enthusiasm for what you're doing. actually testing a 2020 WRX STi in the morning and it's nice to get all this information from you before I get into it.
Just bought a 2020 STI myself actually, and yeah it's not the fastest thing out there at all but god damn is it an enjoyable car to drive. My main complaint about it stock was that you can barely even hear it, but with a reasonable catback exhaust (Invidia Q300, one of the quietest ones out there) on, its perfect.
I've owned an 07 WRX for 10 years and rented a few of these and the confidence of the STI drivetrain is worth it, especially with the 6-speed. Its happy place is carving sweeping canyons out west at double the 35 mph speed limit with total confidence.
I have a 07 sti and I agree. She just loves to glide on the twisty roads. I laugh sometimes because the only time I do the speed limit is when the weather is extreme. That’s not a brag, just how well the car handles and feels. Around 140 it gets scary tho... I can’t lie.
Love the mechanical feel/connection of my 2019 STI. I had previously 2012 STI hatchback that I modified with Nvidia TBE and intake. Was FAST and loud. After several years I missed the stock sound to be honest. I wish my 2019 had been available in hatchback form factor. Been driving Subarus since 2005 because I love how honest they feel. My other car is 2006 BMW Z4 M Coupe. When it is wet can feel dangerous if throttle is applied to aggressively. Subaru feels so planted.
I own a 2019 and I am well aware the platform may be outdated. And everyone in the comments says it needs an upgrade, but until you sit in the car and drive it yourself, your opinion will change. It's truly a drivers car, it's very raw and fun. There's a reason it's been around for so long, because it really gives you a fun experience. I plan on doing some upgrades soon and it's really fun.
Also, I have a nameless catback and plan to get a downpipe. It will probably be much louder. Some people hate the noise, well I hate people who drive with their high beams on and don't use turn signals. Loud pipes keep people paying attention, I think it's a good thing to an extent.
Bruh... did he just say “puts the WRX on the Civic Type R level”??? The WRX IS the bar. Great vid, dude. Thanks for breaking down pretty much every aspect of the 2020.
Fantastic perspective. Its funny I made a post recently echoing alot of your same thoughts. I'm more attracted to getting one of these now that I'm older and have more financial means to actually get a more powerful car. I never would've wanted to own one as my only car but having the means to have a daily, while having this as a simple, analog, year round fun car with great FEEL on the street.
that turbo lag might be aided by what sounds like a pretty heavy fly wheel. the rev hang sounds insane. Edit: and you mention it literally 10 seconds later.
Rev hang isn't bad, he's just not used to the clutch and change feel, and is guilty of the slow revvy changes that everyone does when they first drive the new old sti
The rev hang can be tuned out. It is designed in on purpose to more efficiently burn the fuel, since it is port-injected. A very common mod people make to these is to tune out that rev hang.
Seeing this video 3 years later, in a parking lot I visit occasionally is so sick because I love your videos and have been subbed for a little bit, never knew you were this close to my home it's so cool
As a past owner of a 17 sti. God they are such special cars. I miss mine constantly: so comfy so amazing sounding and so good looking. They last if you take care of them! The comment of you should be driving one is true. IF you can stomach the insanely poor fuel economy if you drive it like you want to all the time. It’s no fun to drive it slow lol
That's correct! The 6-speed in STis is often left stock (clutch upgraded ofc) on 700 horsepower cars. The 5-speed is often becomes prone to breaking when driven mildly spirited at anything beyond about 350 WHP, and the more mileage on it, the worse it gets. My 280 WHP 5MT Legacy GT wagon's synchros are pretty worn out at 218K.
hi Tedward! Great review of the STI. Still has hydraulic steering and that raw feeling that you dont' get in most modern sports cars. Everyone wants to numb the driving experience down
Good stuff. I just finished a 900 mile road trip from Fl to Va and I was surprised how comfortable and non-taxing my ‘20 STI was and the curvy roads of Virginia are magical in this car.
Currently have 04 wrx. It’s getting old and has high mileage. But I love it. Can’t wait to bring in money from my investments. A 2018-2020 sti will be my next daily
Im 53, on my third Subaru and this car appeals to me at my age. Not bad priced second hand now in the UK but maybe because its high road tax and we have stupid price fuel here these days. I wouldn’t drive it like an idiot but the sound, the grip in all weathers the whole experience, driving at normal speeds would make every journey fun.
My favorite time of the year to drive mine is in the winter. Summer is fun, but winter is more fun. And yes, I have separate summer (Michelin PS4S) and winter tires (Nokian Hakkapeliita R3).
My buddy just bought one last month! I test drove it the other day and I love how you have to rev the engine out to get the most out of the turbo. It also kicks way harder than my Focus RS. It does understeer a bit around tight corners but boy it was a joy to drive!!
the more i look at the new sti's the more they're startying to grow on me,sure my heart will always be with 93-2004 models but i wouldnt mind it as a daily
As much as I personally love the bug eyes, try driving this one, or even a base wrx if you can. It really is fun even if it looks kinda bland (excluding the spoiler).
I went the opposite way. When they first came out, I was in love. These days, I find them too simple-looking, and unless they have the wing, I often confuse them with Corollas. The 2014 STi hatch will always be my favourite.
I just bought a new STI in February and my first Subaru. Having owned a lot of performance platforms in the past this is a great car. I put the Cobb stage 1 on my 2nd week of ownership. It makes a huge difference in torque in the 2500-5300 rpm range. Very useable in the lower gears and imo makes it into how it should have come from the factory from the getgo. Flex fuel next...
STIs and the BRZ/86 are phenomenal drivers cars. They nail the perfect ratio of more fun than a regular car but not too much to be boring on public roads. You can ride the cars hard in everyday used and have a blast. The crazy horsepower cars are instant to jail when you get even a little rowdy.
2:13 what is great is you can spec a STI without the wing, which I personally like as it really improves the look, but most people go for the wing just because, you know, why not lol
I've had a modified BRZ for almost 6 years. Driven the STi quite a few times, while they seem cool I'd definitely have to buy it new to ensure it wasn't beat on, and for a $40k price tag I'm almost always going to want something else.
You finally drove a very driver friendly car after all these years. For me I now own my second sti. Now you regret being rude to your friends for driving the sti. I don’t know weather to dislike your video or not. As a matter of fact I won’t dislike it. You have learnt your lesson and has realized your ignorance. Nice video. It was a learning experience for you.
the whole "i'm not a subaru guy" After ragging on it for like a solid 3 minutes before that didn't give us any indication lol. I woke up and got this level of attack from tedward nice.
Is the STI still a relevant driver's car or are we due for a massive change? Also I was wrong about steering. Only the WRX got the electronic assist. Huge thanks to Patreon supporters for making this content possible
I believe we’re due for a massive change. As much as I like the exterior and interior, the powertrain is very outdated. The EJ25 at this point is like.. 20 years old? Maybe for the next gen they use the FA24 from the Ascent.
Anyways, how’s your day going?
bet itll become an SUV...
Got a new ‘20 STI before they mess it up with too much tech and maybe a non-manual transmission. It is fantastic to be able to still be a new car with hydraulic steering.
I have a 2018 STI... I get it, it’s outdated but at the same time that’s what I love about it. It feels so good like a 90s sports car.
AWD cars will never be the best "driver's choice" to me for so many reasons, compared to FR, but I'm glad people enjoy them.
"Today 300hp is like, everything, normal"
Me in my 60hp Golf : yea, for sure
By now, every sportscar enthousiast knows that it's not Hp alone what counts, it's the power/weight ratio. Put that same 300 hp in a 1200kg classic Impreza GT, and see what happens....
me in my 150hp focus: ok 😞
Me with no car😞
@@UmamiDeBoi me in my 2.5i outback “what’s 300hp” 😂
It is outdated as fu... waiting for new Elantra N.
It's not about how fast you get there, it's about how much fun it is on the way
“When you get older, 0 to 60 time means less and less” - Agree 100%
Honestly, id say Horsepower. But 0-60 works maybe better
nahhh..not for me.
im 20 and still dont care about 0-60
I’m old now so yeah - I like a little shove, but now I like the ease of driving and the handling/surefootedness 😎
I disagree to a point. Sure I'm only 24 but I live around highways. Everything is a highway here. I use 0-60 and more importantly 5-60 to understand how much space I need to safely merge on the highway.
Love my 2019. It's modded and makes around 370whp but it's been awesome since day 1. No other car has made me smile every time I drive it.
What mods are you rockin? I’m stock with an axle back and scared of hurting it😂
@@willpittman7593 don’t be afraid!! If you’re nervous about ringland, know any year model pre 2018 has extended warranty upwards of 100k miles for ringland. And 18+ has better internals. Also fwiw, only the bad instances of this car blowing up are documented on the Internet. The greater majority has had little to no issues. Amazing car :)
@@willpittman7593 be very afraid.
Glad Subaru still making the STi.
I plan on purchasing an STI for my first car off the dealer
Not for Germany... :(
it's getting a nice redesign in the next year model too. looks mostly the same but a new engine and more power
If they offered a small light na v8 paired with awd I’d buy in an instant
@@amador4417 As a first car you may be better off with the simple WRX. The FA20 is a more reliable engine, that can still make lottsa HP if you want to
That Cayenne did a classic ricer fly by on you.
I don't know why that Brought me so much joy lol
It's faster than slowbaru. Still won't blow up
@@moneyparhar cap
only only stop the cap
@@TedwardDrives There's something joyful in seeing people open the taps in cars like that.
As a fan of the 2007 Subaru WRX STI (and all wrx's to be honest) this video has made my day
same! i love the 2007 sti since it's the last one to have that classic design
but i really like this one as well. people are looking forward to 2022 sti concept but i personally don't like it
it becomes unrecognizable in my opinion
I have a Hawkeye wrx:D
Oh really I couldn't tell you liked subaru bro
I have a JDM Forester and everything he mentioned about the fun factor in driving a Subaru is spot on 👌
respect for you man
The fragile transmission was the 5 speed from the regular WRX back in the day. The 6 speed in the Sti has always been great.
I was just coming to comment this
Look at the contrast between that blue and the sea of grey white and black! One of the best blues out there
The automotive and enthusiast world is just a better place thanks to these cars.
I was anti subaru, having owned an evo 8 and 10 for nearly 8 years, I just bought a 2021 sti. Fantastic daily.
I was a massive evo fan when I was younger but as they became extinct, I became the biggest Subaru fan. I love the rally competition
The current gen sti disproves the 'new is always better (or necessary)' theory. It's a total blast to drive. If they never improve it, it's still be a blast to drive. And it's certainly fast enough, as is, to scare the crap out of yourself on public roads.
Ill say this much, going from my 2004 sti, to the 2013 sti, to now the 2020 sti. The 2020 is the best STI hands down.
@@leka_the_prophet My wife as the 2016 (almost the same as 2020). It's a fantastic driving car. But it doesn't look as good as either of the concept cars...
@@bikebudha01 Ah see for me, I never really cared much for the concept cars. Glad to hear you guys enjoy the 2016! Lmk if I can share some Subaru Ambassador goodies with you
Your car reviews are so well done. As a current 10th gen Si owner, I'm constantly fawning over the Type-R. Now I want an STI.
I’m the same way cause I got a s2000 and I need a daily and I want a type r but the sti is calling me
@@noto3402 get the STI you won’t regret it but if do get one, make sure you get 2019+ ,noting below that. I had a 19 WRX and it got totaled 8 months ago and I ended up get 19 STI 3 months ago and I love it so much.
@@noto3402 2019+ STI has bunch of Type RA Parts. Tuner are making like 600hp+ on stock block 2019+ only*
I have a bone stock 2020 STI and I love every minute with it. I agree with the exhaust too, it's loud enough for its power and it has a great rumble as is.
modern cars:
send it...
straight to jail lol
I've been watching this video multiple times now, and it hasn't gotten old on me yet.
Really, really want this car.
5:11 stoked to hear you say this! I've never once felt the need for more power in my STi. I always get a chuckle when people yell about this car being slow haha
Exactly and also 400whp is nothing for an sti so if you wanted it wouldn’t be a problem to get more power in the future. Could even push 500-600whp if you wanted to sacrifice reliability a bit
@@stefan_4508 that’s a my problem. I love to beat on my sti and I’m afraid going for more power will destroy my engine too fast.
I've owned my sti for 5 years now. I definitely would like to see more power. 300hp is nothing for modern cars nowadays. I LOVE my sti, but the top end is extremely lackluster. 1st gear to 3rd is great, but trying to pull from 4th is like I'm in a prius. 🤣 I'm doing an engine swap for an ej iag closed deck longblock, forged internals etc. Instead of buying a new sti, im going to put that money into my old one and have 400whp+
@@stefan_4508 my guy lol. 400whp is a substantial money pit. fuel system alone is going to be $2000-2500, the turbo, an extra $1200-1400, the downpipe, $500, the intake/air upgrades, another 600. and that's cutting literally every corner in doing that build. not to mention your tune which will run you up another 1k. realistically to get 400whp in ANY boxer engine, in a reliable form, expect to pay I would say no less than 8k and then "sacrifice reliability a bit" 500-600whp, Idk how long you think those piston ringlands will last, I've seen them fail in 5k miles of a brand new off the lot EJ :( sad but true.
@@stefan_4508 are you smoking crack? if not, must be some good H. My girlfriend has a built Sti. blew it up at 360whp on stock block, rebuilt it with pistons and rods, made 400whp for 2 months before it grenaded. spent 18k on a new turbo setup and engine and it makes 480whp with almost no potential for more. Subarus are slow, unreliable, and absolute money pits. If you have 50k to throw at it, have fun.
Finally! Someone made a video on the 2020!
Raiti has several 2020 STI youtube videos
my 2021 sti limited is coming this month from the factory i’ll be sure to make a video too
@@yankeexpress raiti is a poseur with more bots than brains
@@yankeexpress so now we know how many twinkies fit in the center console.
@@bobbyaustralia8509 ehhh. I mean he's not my fav.
7:20 I believe the STI still uses hydraulic steering. It definitely did at the start of this generation.
You’re right! The wrx got the electric assist and the STI kept the hydraulic. Seems a lot of magazines botched this as well 😂. My bad
STI is definitely still analog hydraulic steering. Fantastic!
and yes, you can still hear the loud pump when it is really cold out lol
I got 2016 STi, that steering is pure awesomeness. You can feel almost anything from the wheels :)
Hydraulic rack and pinion. It is the best steering feel ever.
5:48 is extremely accurate - by the time you get to the speed limit, or even slightly beyond, it's all over and now you're back to cruising at speeds that won't attract law enforcement. And you didn't even use more than a fraction of what is available to you. At least in cars like the Civic type-R (or the STI), you can enjoy the run from 0 - whatever because the driving experience (and the manual transmission) engages you every step of the way.
I'm 49 and could've bought pretty much any car under $100K that I wanted... and I bought an STI. It's. Just. So. Much. Fun. And it's not expensive to maintain. Great car.
coulda got tesla model s too, then there’s nothing to maintain....good on you for getting a car you love
@@jasekanistanaux3159 it doesn't go brap brap or boom and fart u know
Arswole Schwarzdogger ahahaha these things you say are very true😔😔🥲
@@jasekanistanaux3159 The Model S was on the short list... but there aren't any Super Chargers (except at resorts) where I like to drive on the weekends. When Tesla's network gets better, I'll reconsider.
@Bitterman The STI looks way better on the outside IMO
As a 17wrx sti and s204 owner, this video has suprised me how good and a big improvment on the 2020 wrx sti!
They need more improvement on the engine and transmission.
@@rogermoore2365 every Sti from the RA and after have an improved engine and the transmission is good for at least 700 hp.
@@Jacolan007 Engine is still profoundly terrible though.
@@nvl2691 old, not terrible. It's just weird how old the engineering of the engine is compared to a 2020 car, however, the engine incredible.
@@Jacolan007 the ra is nice and the s209. But read up the the engines that come to the USA. In Japan they get the good stuff.
I've been daily driving my 2006 sti for over two years and it's incredible
Man that's awesome. Do you still use the stock air filters?
@@ezekiel8487 Nope it has an aftermarket one, it was stock with an exhaust when I bought it at 74,000 miles, and now has 96,000 miles with basic bolt ons and a dyno tune
@@victorpatykowski5523 absolutely love my 07 sti. Daily her as well.
i hope i can get one when im older lmao
I couldn't use my impreza Spec C RA as a daily, just so noisy, unrefined and bouncy even compared to my Megane R26. 🤣
I test drove one of these a year ago and it’s such a wonderful throwback to fun, old school cars. It’s not the fastest, smoothest, or most comfortable car but it made me smile the entire time and that’s what actually matters with cars like this.
One of my fave things about these cars is that they ask you when your birthday is, so it can display a cute little happy birthday message for you when the time comes! I probably would have been looking hard at one of these if my budget was 30k instead of 20k.
I think this is the only review where I didn’t mind someone talking in the background. Nice video!
Now on my 2nd STI, a no-wing new dead-stock 2020 (except for snow tires) after having a new ‘06 for 6 years and 76k miles also dead-stock. A great analog daily driver as is.
don't tell me you sold the 06......
@@Align700nitro ditto..
Good for daily driving?
@@josel8311 yes, an excellent daily driver on good roads. The ride is firm for outstanding handling so rough roads are noticable , avoiding potholes on the 19 inch performance wheels. Get the short-throw shifter option, makes the STI a total blast to drive daily.
Gotta have the wing
I love your videos man they bring me so much joy
Thanks Man!
What a wholesome comment.
The WRX STI may legitimately be one of my favorite cars, and I think it looks great on grey along with that blue.
Yes, that EJ is almost as old as I am, but I still love it. Love how Subaru hasn’t smoothed over all of the rough edges of the STI. It’s definitely been refined over the years, but they haven’t just engineered out all of the quirks and personality. Hope the next gen WRX/STI retain this same character.
to be fair, in 2019 theyve improved strngth of the pistons and rings, then 2020 i think it was the con rods, then 2021 was block casting, stock ones pushing 600 whp for 15k+miles
@@boppernostopper8598 stock zl1 and other cars stock pushing 600+ well over 100k.
But it still has flaws that shouldn't exist. Why do those flaws still exist after 15+ years?
@@K03sport what flaws?
@@drink15...the 4th cylinder temperature/cooling for starters. That is a popular mod for STi owners and continues to be so for 2019/20/21 cars too.
I forgot how quiet stock STI are. It´s really a shame Subaru doesn´t sell this in Europe anymore, what a great all around daily car with big potencials.
Ha! You guys get so many other great cars we never see in NA :)
@@tabletoppery780 I agree but in a few years you'll be the ones to get the coolest cars thanks to European emissions regulations.
@@vojtechbatelka8581 well America is tightening its emission soon enough with the new president.
@@v8_sami Yep, look up the Rpm act. Soon it'll be illegal to buy an aftermarket ECU / tune a car because eof the EPA regulations.
@@v8_sami so sad
I personally always loved them! this seems like a nicely balanced sports with no bs that you could drive everyday
That beautiful color stands out in that grey sea of bleargh.
Especially in the rain.
This thing is a survivor and we thank Subaru for that. I drive my 4th STI since 2006. add a few Cobb bits (short shift, accessport STG1+, intake, exhaust), mudflaps and you have a raw engaging little 365days ride.
The Subaru WRX is my dream car, definitely great to see you drive one!
“i just want to drive” i’ve never driven this car, but this is going to be my first car and i am excited for it.
2003 WRX Bugeye was by far the most fun car I've ever owned. I would own another one in a heart beat.
I think that the STI is one of the best cars ever made. The performance to cost ratio is amazing, the build quality the practicality is spot on!!!!
My first car was a 2006 STi and boy do I miss it. Appreciate this video
That was your first car.... damm kid ...and get another one
Agree with the it has enough power and you won't lose your license...it is perfect.
Great video. A true gem of a car and the last affordable analog car.
Wonderful car stock...the STI 6 speed is super strong...unlight the early wrx 5 speeds....
Best drivers car left under 85k.
Honestly, it´s one of my dream cars. I just really like everything about it. This would be a perfect daily driver, which would add fun to every trip. I love these, thanks for the video!
You have an intoxicating way of communicating your eagerness and driving passion.... wish we could go for drives together!!!
These types of cars are my favorites, Fast, Practical, You can use them in the daily drive ! one day I will buy one of those types
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I just wanna drive. Agree ! Im not buying the eletronics, im buying the driving experience.
I’ve had my sti for almost a year now and I still love it so much, just such a fun car and there is a really great community around them aswell
5:11 yesss thank you!! I have a stage 2 F80 pushing nearly 600 crank and it’s a literal rocket ship. It’s gotten to a point now where it is too fast, it’s not fun anymore unless I’m on a track because I can’t go fast without hitting like 110 or 120 which is way too fast for public roads. These cars that are “slow” are so much more fun for backroad driving
I’ve driven a stock one thru country backroads, that stock 300hp is perfect. It’s not too fast and definitely not slow. When I get mine a few bolt ons and a tune is perfect
Chris Pantoja
Exactly! I hope you get one soon and enjoy it!
Sheesh, the 2020 WRX STI is my current dream car, it's nice to see a POV of what hopefully the future holds for me!
Wait for the 2022 one.
New engine ;3
@@dazai2121 The New design is looking kinda ugly
Get one while are still available discounted, I did...before they mess it up by “ improving” it.
@@dazai2121 I want the boxer engine back 😫
Shouldn't be a dream car, its pretty cheap.
What I like the most about this car is its visibility😍. Hard to find a car like this nowadays
I personally own the 2020 version of this car and I legitimately almost never put it in sports sharp mode. This car has realistic power and I think the AWD system and handling of the car makes up for the speed. Also this is a great car to have if you live in snowy areas and you still want a fast dependable car. Although, if you do buy this car try to get a set of smaller tires. In my experience the only times I get stuck is when the snow gets packed inside the wheel wells.
What you said about enjoying “slower” vehicles with personality rather than a quick numb sprint to 60 is exactly why i traded my mk7r for a brz ts a few years back. Now i find myself looking at a low milage sti again, awd in New England is a game changer.
I’ve had a 2016 WRX since 2016 and after 60,000 miles I still love it. I think it strikes a very nice balance between analog and digital that will be difficult to find in the near future. I also think the 2.0 with the smaller, twin scroll turbo in the WRX is better for regular driving than the 2.5 in the STi. Basically I’m saying if you can find one in good condition used, it would be a great option for a lot of upstart car enthusiasts.
Just make sure to buy a second set of wheels and tires (one winter and one summer set) to get the most out of the car year round.
Very well said, buy STI used hopefully still under warranty and buy WRX new with FA engine for the win, all the torque and hp you need below 60mph
@@daniellanzotti2391 the wrx engine is awesome. Makes peak torque and 20psi at 1800 rpm. I just hate the gearbox. Trading my 17 wrx in for a 21 sti.
@@ianholmquist8492 yea stock i wasnt pleased with either. Now, I have several mods to the shifter and I really like it. Its not a honda type r shifter or mazda mx5 shifter that would be glorious lol.
been through a few of your videos now and wanted to say I appreciate your enthusiasm for what you're doing. actually testing a 2020 WRX STi in the morning and it's nice to get all this information from you before I get into it.
Got me a 2020 STi over a year ago. Never have i enjoyed driving so much. :)
same here! no regrets!
I like these "slow" around 5s to 60 sports cars videos of yours the most, very enjoyable. Hope to see more of these :D
Awesome! I love this WRX STI. I’ve always wanted this as a dream car! I would say this is an Underrated car.
The STI's are just fun to drive especially in the canyons and mountain roads. It just handles the curves so well.
Just bought a 2020 STI myself actually, and yeah it's not the fastest thing out there at all but god damn is it an enjoyable car to drive. My main complaint about it stock was that you can barely even hear it, but with a reasonable catback exhaust (Invidia Q300, one of the quietest ones out there) on, its perfect.
2020 STI owner here. No regrets, it's my first Subaru.
Nice review. I went from a F80 M3 to a 2020 Base WRX and having way more fun
I've owned an 07 WRX for 10 years and rented a few of these and the confidence of the STI drivetrain is worth it, especially with the 6-speed. Its happy place is carving sweeping canyons out west at double the 35 mph speed limit with total confidence.
I have a 07 sti and I agree. She just loves to glide on the twisty roads. I laugh sometimes because the only time I do the speed limit is when the weather is extreme. That’s not a brag, just how well the car handles and feels. Around 140 it gets scary tho... I can’t lie.
When you start to learn, you are in fact a subaru fan.😁 Also they may not be the fastest but they are by far one of the best sounding cars out there.
the sound alone is just beautiful
Love the mechanical feel/connection of my 2019 STI. I had previously 2012 STI hatchback that I modified with Nvidia TBE and intake. Was FAST and loud. After several years I missed the stock sound to be honest. I wish my 2019 had been available in hatchback form factor. Been driving Subarus since 2005 because I love how honest they feel. My other car is 2006 BMW Z4 M Coupe. When it is wet can feel dangerous if throttle is applied to aggressively. Subaru feels so planted.
Picked up my 21 sti few weeks ago and absolutely love it completely different ride to my 2012 wrx. No regrets at all
I went from a ‘11 WRX to a ‘20 STI and feel the same.
I own a 2019 and I am well aware the platform may be outdated. And everyone in the comments says it needs an upgrade, but until you sit in the car and drive it yourself, your opinion will change. It's truly a drivers car, it's very raw and fun. There's a reason it's been around for so long, because it really gives you a fun experience. I plan on doing some upgrades soon and it's really fun.
Also, I have a nameless catback and plan to get a downpipe. It will probably be much louder. Some people hate the noise, well I hate people who drive with their high beams on and don't use turn signals. Loud pipes keep people paying attention, I think it's a good thing to an extent.
Bruh... did he just say “puts the WRX on the Civic Type R level”???
The WRX IS the bar.
Great vid, dude. Thanks for breaking down pretty much every aspect of the 2020.
Fantastic perspective. Its funny I made a post recently echoing alot of your same thoughts. I'm more attracted to getting one of these now that I'm older and have more financial means to actually get a more powerful car. I never would've wanted to own one as my only car but having the means to have a daily, while having this as a simple, analog, year round fun car with great FEEL on the street.
I can tell you really understand what the STI is trying to do. Loved this video
that turbo lag might be aided by what sounds like a pretty heavy fly wheel. the rev hang sounds insane. Edit: and you mention it literally 10 seconds later.
Rev hang isn't bad, he's just not used to the clutch and change feel, and is guilty of the slow revvy changes that everyone does when they first drive the new old sti
My 2020 does not rev hang?
No rev hang in the stock 2019.... It is perfect.
The rev hang can be tuned out. It is designed in on purpose to more efficiently burn the fuel, since it is port-injected. A very common mod people make to these is to tune out that rev hang.
U even headers give the rumble
Seeing this video 3 years later, in a parking lot I visit occasionally is so sick because I love your videos and have been subbed for a little bit, never knew you were this close to my home it's so cool
I wanna buy one of the wrx, I just love how they sound and feel, amazing cars, thanks for the video made my dad!
As a past owner of a 17 sti. God they are such special cars. I miss mine constantly: so comfy so amazing sounding and so good looking. They last if you take care of them! The comment of you should be driving one is true. IF you can stomach the insanely poor fuel economy if you drive it like you want to all the time. It’s no fun to drive it slow lol
Comfy is not a word I often see used to describe the STI lol
Now imagine the sounds with a unequal length headers and a modest but noticeable exhaust
I think the 2.5 comes with Uel headers stock. Or atleast used to.
It does have UEL headers
sti’s have always had uel headers. Only the 2015+ wrx have el headers bc of the twin scroll turbo.
@@jovanyrodriguez5780 the jdm engines had elh as well
Found it in my recomendations and ended up watch trough and i have no regrets about it. You are very nice and positive man, thank you very much)
Thanks!
12:00 I believe it is the old 5spd out of the WRX that liked to blow up but I think the 6spd was always bulletproof. Correct me if that's wrong.
That's correct! The 6-speed in STis is often left stock (clutch upgraded ofc) on 700 horsepower cars. The 5-speed is often becomes prone to breaking when driven mildly spirited at anything beyond about 350 WHP, and the more mileage on it, the worse it gets. My 280 WHP 5MT Legacy GT wagon's synchros are pretty worn out at 218K.
And then there's the 6-speed in the WRX, not to be confused with the STI's 6-speed.
hi Tedward! Great review of the STI. Still has hydraulic steering and that raw feeling that you dont' get in most modern sports cars. Everyone wants to numb the driving experience down
Yup corrected the steering mistake in the pinned comment when published
Japanese cars are something else. They will forever have a special place in my heart.
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Really miss the STI hatchback, but glad they are still making this legend. One of the more exciting cars on here and always nice to see a manual.
not an authentic review there were no vapes being used
My asthma 😩
Legit the entire street smells of vape whenever a WRX or BRZ drives by, it's like they burn vape juice instead of gas.
@@vanisshen4467 Probably running on E85 😂
Good stuff. I just finished a 900 mile road trip from Fl to Va and I was surprised how comfortable and non-taxing my ‘20 STI was and the curvy roads of Virginia are magical in this car.
my dad bought a 2020 with the wrx spoiler, and he's loving it, and gotta say i do too. Agree with everything you say about it
Currently have 04 wrx. It’s getting old and has high mileage. But I love it. Can’t wait to bring in money from my investments. A 2018-2020 sti will be my next daily
even if the car is stock having an exhaust is nice if you like the sound. If I owned one of these I would only do exhaust and enjoy it in stock form
I’d prolly rice it up a bit. Make it my own, yknow
@@RedLightKi yeah. All depends on what you want it to do
Intake as well so you can hear the turbo spool up way more and a tune
Im 53, on my third Subaru and this car appeals to me at my age. Not bad priced second hand now in the UK but maybe because its high road tax and we have stupid price fuel here these days. I wouldn’t drive it like an idiot but the sound, the grip in all weathers the whole experience, driving at normal speeds would make every journey fun.
This is so nice on the snow. Everyone should experience it.
Correct 100%.
👍 For the avatar. 🇸🇪
@@K03sport thanks. Best cars but no more
My favorite time of the year to drive mine is in the winter. Summer is fun, but winter is more fun. And yes, I have separate summer (Michelin PS4S) and winter tires (Nokian Hakkapeliita R3).
haha good profilname bro 😊😂 Saab and Subies are life
Bought a 2020 STI late last year and I absolutely love it! Great video!
Wish this would come in hatchback ver. I have 2009 wrx sti still gonna own it until subaru would come out with the new hatch
I really appreciate the way these cars drive. I’ve driven my buddies STI before and they’re really reminiscent of how my Charger drives.
My buddy just bought one last month! I test drove it the other day and I love how you have to rev the engine out to get the most out of the turbo. It also kicks way harder than my Focus RS. It does understeer a bit around tight corners but boy it was a joy to drive!!
the more i look at the new sti's the more they're startying to grow on me,sure my heart will always be with 93-2004 models but i wouldnt mind it as a daily
As much as I personally love the bug eyes, try driving this one, or even a base wrx if you can. It really is fun even if it looks kinda bland (excluding the spoiler).
@@derangedemu i'd have to one day,but i doubt i'll enjoy it as much
I went the opposite way. When they first came out, I was in love. These days, I find them too simple-looking, and unless they have the wing, I often confuse them with Corollas. The 2014 STi hatch will always be my favourite.
@@southpaw117 idk i personally just hate modern cars,too many safety things too much help,i prefer the raw drive
I just bought a new STI in February and my first Subaru. Having owned a lot of performance platforms in the past this is a great car. I put the Cobb stage 1 on my 2nd week of ownership. It makes a huge difference in torque in the 2500-5300 rpm range. Very useable in the lower gears and imo makes it into how it should have come from the factory from the getgo. Flex fuel next...
sometimes its better when things dont change :)
STIs and the BRZ/86 are phenomenal drivers cars. They nail the perfect ratio of more fun than a regular car but not too much to be boring on public roads. You can ride the cars hard in everyday used and have a blast. The crazy horsepower cars are instant to jail when you get even a little rowdy.
2:13 what is great is you can spec a STI without the wing, which I personally like as it really improves the look, but most people go for the wing just because, you know, why not lol
Haha I didn’t know that. I always thought people just took them off
I really don't like the wing on the Sti, But I find it really weird to not have it.
Great review. I love my 2020 WRX. Hopefully STi soon
I've had a modified BRZ for almost 6 years. Driven the STi quite a few times, while they seem cool I'd definitely have to buy it new to ensure it wasn't beat on, and for a $40k price tag I'm almost always going to want something else.
You finally drove a very driver friendly car after all these years. For me I now own my second sti. Now you regret being rude to your friends for driving the sti. I don’t know weather to dislike your video or not. As a matter of fact I won’t dislike it. You have learnt your lesson and has realized your ignorance. Nice video. It was a learning experience for you.
I still love the bug eye subaru sti but I can't wait to see the all new refresh
the whole "i'm not a subaru guy" After ragging on it for like a solid 3 minutes before that didn't give us any indication lol. I woke up and got this level of attack from tedward nice.