How To Drive A Subaru WRX STI | Rev Matching Explained
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It's definitely important to find the biting point and be 100% familiar with it. It's not about releasing the clutch slow, because to beginners, that can be misinterpreted as releasing the clutch slow LINEARLY, when in fact what you want to do is release the clutch pedal as fast as you can to the biting point, then you remain on the biting point until you can hear/feel that the engine and flywheel are synced up, then you can release the clutch pedal completely.
I know so many people who have driven manuals their entire lives and still jerk around upshifting from 1st to 2nd to 3rd because they don't remain on the biting point long enough. The lower the gear that you're in, the longer you have to remain on the biting point. You're not going to burn it out or anything as long as you don't keep slipping the clutch for like 5 seconds or some crazy long duration.
Even in this video at 10:17, you can tell that he didn't remain on the biting point long enough, causing the car to shake a little bit, which is fine because you don't have to be completely perfect all the time when you're just cruising around, but if you WANTED to be perfect, it's good to be able to know what to do to make your shifts smooth.
OMG thank you so much this is exactly what Is happening and what I was looking for
This is info i have been searching around for FOR DAYS. Thank you.
After driving a STi for a few months now and being used to Hondas and Volkswagens, this is exactly it. That additional time for the biting point is crucial to driving smoothly on the STi!
Thank you for writing this and not making me feel crazy. Got my first STI a month ago and I was worried I was spending too long on the clutch in the lower gears. Thank you.
A tip for some: when you begin to learn how to rev match I started off immediately on double clutching. (Clutch in, neutral, blip throttle, clutch in, go to gear you want). I do this for the longevity of synchros, etc. Again that's just how I was taught haha for some it may be different.
Double clutch downshifting is too smooth when done perfectly for the STI. Literally 0 work for the synchros
Do you hold the throttle to keep the rpms where you want then let go of the clutch? Or just tap the throttle and let go of the clutch? One of the hardest things for me when rev matching is trying to get the gear engaged before the rpms drop too low…
I don't think you guys understand how synchros work...
Lol man I got the car without test driving it because I didn’t know how to drive manual lmaooo….I was in the car max parking lot for 4 hours watching RUclips videos lmaooo
The rev match feeling is one of the best feelings ever!!!
This morning I am going to test drive 2021 STI (used one only 4000 miles), it great to watch yours video first before I go, and make me feel easy. As I didn't drive manual for long time, your advice give me a good start. Thans a lot
Great points for sure. I typically gravitate to owning cars with more power - but looking back, my ‘18 STI I owned for 2 years was one of the most fun driving cars I’ve ever experienced. Once you learn the car it becomes so controllable and rewarding. It was amazing ripping into turns - and don’t even get me started on driving it in snow!!! I def miss it.
Ik what you mean. I miss mine to a couple of weeks ago some careless lady hit me and totaled mine.
First and only manual i ever drove was when i first picked up my 2019 STi from the lot. Haha it was a nerve wracking experience not wanting to stall in front of my wife and the sales reps lol. But rev matching is so important. And double clutching is very smooth. Also man, i feel you i truly never drive any other way than sport sharp. I want to drive 100 % of my car not 75 % haha, but dude upgrading the exhaust is such a huge improvement. Being able to hear where your at and getting used to it is such a huge help. Love the video mate, well done.
I learned manual in my first car a 07 mazdaspeed 3. Learning manual in a fwd seems alot easier than rw/aw. When I made the jump to 2017 wrx learning the clutch was a tiny bit frustrating, but do-able that was 4 yrs ago. Now Im teaching my younger brother how to feel out the peddles before a road test. He wants to pass it in a manual.(but in my sheeetie civic tho).
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Great tip on clutch engagement. Will def share with new manual drivers! Also interesting to hear a tune can clean up first gear. Even driving stick forever but am struggling with first sometimes in my new STi
When you had gotten to the tip mentioning an exhaust, I threw my arms up and said "SOMEBODY GETS IT!" My stock STi exhaust actually freaked me out, coming from a WRX that had a Remark N1 exhaust and was much louder--it was harder to tell what revs I was at, as you said, and it's caused me to stall a lot. Rev matching, too, is pretty important for that same thing. Sadly the new exhaust I picked up for the STi (Invidia N1) doesn't crackle and pop like the WRX's did, but upgrading has helped a ton nonetheless. I've only had the car for a month so being able to hear from someone who has had theirs for 5 years has shed some new light on my driving technique. Great video, informative and entertaining! Thank you!
Exhaust plays a big roll!
Awesome vid! I am a life long manual person. I am going to teach my wife how to drive a manual, so this is great! Simply because I didn’t realize what I took for granted.
your car is sick dude. I love it seriously. Happy for you.
Rev matching my 06 Subaru wrx tomei is a blast it definitely is satisfying when you get it perfect
Dude I seriously can’t thank you enough 🙏🏼 I’ve been driving stick for the past 4 years (had an Si, now an STI) and I’ve always been okay at downshifting but not great. After watching your video, it literally changed my life man Lol I downshift soooo much better now and a lot smoother/quicker, all thanks to you man! Just wanted to give a shout out and a BIG thanks to you. Love the channel and your STI is absolutely STUNNING 🔥🔥🔥
Awesome! Glad I was able to help and thank you for the kind words!
Scoobyfreak86 No problem! Thank you!
in the exact position as u lol, I started off with a 8th gen si then later moved onto a sti
It really is a good feeling getting the rev match perfect... feeling a butter smooth shift.
I've got a 2019 Sti and absolutely fell in love with it as soon as i started driving it around, the one thing i noticed about the rev matching is that between gears it looks like theres about a 500-600 rpm difference, and once i noticed that it was a lot easier for me to rev match, i just got used to the amount of pedal required to get that small jump in rpm. I know everyone learns a bit differently but that helped me quite a bit, All in all a really good video though
I really like your SI Drive Switch Cover. Where can I get one like it?
It’s made by Perrin. Unfortunately, they no longer sell them.
This is great, helpful for sure. I ned to practice a bit more -- feel like it makes the entire experience that much better and smoother. Cheers man!
Perfect timing i just bought a Gr86 thank you💜
Great idea for a video on rev matching! My '16 Stage 1 STI with the Cobb SS 3" Catback is pretty good for hearing the RPMs. I usually never listen music on the HK stereo just because I need to hear my RPMs.
Same lol. I don’t really listen to the radio for the same reason hah. My exhaust drowns out the radio mostly anyway 😂
I mastered driving this car within a week or 2 of owning it rev matching all that shit it’s such a fun car I love it I think I’ll never switch cars not even when I have kids
I’ve been looking forward to this!
Picked up my 17 STI limited last week and I love it. It reminds me alot of a Toyota I built when I was in high school. Everyone already says I drive the car so well and I don't even have the temp tags off it 😂
This car just matches my driving style really well.
thats a good point about basing shifts and revmatches on exhaust sound. my shifting does require more calculations when I have the exhaust silencer in.
Tip #1 Is gold! I used this method to teach my ex-wife to drive manual on my Saab 9-3 viggen.
WRX is HARD to learn stick on but it's so rewarding once you get the hang of it
Just bought my sti and holy hell it's the hardest stick shift I've ever driven, especially with how stiff the spring is
I'm 52 years old and only recently understood the benefit of extending clutch lifespan. Also, like mine, makes it shoot flames out the back. Dats right!
I'm so glad you said something about the stock tune! I hate the way 1st gear feels on my WRX and convinced myself I just suck at driving stick (which still may be true) but good to know a tune will fix that. Just gotta decide if I want to Void my warranty or not lol
Your car sounds so f****** good man 😂 always admired your driving so good tutorial 👍
Yea just picked up a 2018 wrx sti in Lapis blue pearl with 43k miles . Still getting use to clutch . I did stalled reversing into my driveway lol . So apparently these cars need some throttle reversing . Use to drive a 17 focus ST and I could reverse without giving any throttle . Have to get use to the high engagement so use to low to middle clutch engagement. Love the car . Car came with Cobb intake and borla exhaust but no AP. Had my sales guy called the original owner to see if he ever had one and he never did .
Great vid, thanks for posting.
been waiting on this one
Great video, bro!! 🤙🏾
Great video . Perfect timing lol , just got my 17’ STI a couple weeks ago . Very different clutch engagement compared to my 12’ wrx.
Same! I’ve been watching your videos for a while now to get an idea of what I’d like to do. As this is my first manual car this video is perfect! Just purchased a dmg (dream color) 2019 sti from carvana. Kinda sus buying an STI online but I’m optimistic. Return policy is pretty nice if it’s in terrible condition. Hopefully everything works out! 🤞🤞
@@03XToxiczX11 I got my STI on carvana as well. I strongly recommend getting a compression and leak down test (about $300). If they find anything wrong, carvana will have to pay to fix it. My check engine light came on after about 70 days of ownership, and thankfully the 100 day warranty was still active. The test revealed a 20% leak through the crankcase, and carvana had to pay for a new engine for me. Mine is a 2015, so I think yours has the FA engine which I believe is less problematic than the EJ in mine, but seriously do it for peace of mind!
I felt that in my heart about the exhaust part , just got a 2018 STI and it’s so quite deff hard to know where your at with rpm’s , also coming from a 8th SI the clutch picks up insane high 😂
Didn’t come here for the lesson, came for the sweet sti man 👍 props! Looking for one similar, but your mods really woke this one up. If you’d sell, give me a shout!
Just got myself a '15 STI in WR Blue and been partly feeling embarrassed for not being able to drive it like, well, you and others I see.
Thanks for this! Also: Glad yours is still with you :)
Trust me, there is a learning curve. It’s not an easy car to drive smoothly at first. Hope this helps.
Not easy meeting your hero, is it? Haha I experienced the same thing with my 2014 STI, takes a bit to learn where the grapple on the clutch is - The more you do it, the better you'll get it down, same with double clutching.
What screws me all the way up is when I get new shoes..
@@xSmorez- I feel that, have lost races simply because I was wearing too foamy shoes and couldn’t genuinely feel the clutch connect point 😂
You can and will very quickly develop both confidence and the ability to manage engine vs wheel speed without conscious thought. It just takes practice. You can get rev matching practice downshifting through the gears at stop lights and signs, but I'd avoid 2nd to 1st
What a lovely color cool vid!
Awesome. Beautiful STI.
Being able to hear the car helps a lot when it comes to driving stick
Such a clean car 👍👍
The biggest thing you forgot to mention is that there is very little to no clutch feel in the wrx/STI which can lead to problems when starting to move. If you look at other vehicles in the price range that come with a manual trans so mustang, Z, Camaro, etc. they have a lot more pedal feel on the clutch. Like you can tell when the clutch starts to make contact through the pedal. Before my STI I had an 18 mustang GT, and before that I had a 03 350z, and in both of those cars you know exactly where the clutch grabs.
Drive a bmw or Honda. That is no clutch feel. The wrx is very soft comparing the STI. Sti’s clutch is a good mix between firm and soft for everyday.
The STI has a weird clutch engagement. It was the car I stalled the most out of all my manual trans cars.
Facts
It does really! My spouse says it's heavy, it is!
It needs to be with the immediate stress of the AWD system on the drive train! Nice interior accents
I test drove one today and you’re right. Still getting the car though haha
@@Renzii Awesome hope you enjoy it. Driving this car never gets old to me. I intend on keeping mine indefinitely, as another car like this will never come along
Clean STI 🔥
i remember the big learning curve for sure
Getting me STI this week!
Enjoy!
I got my 2019 wrx sti limited dream car
I rev matched my 2010 WRX (bought new) for 11 years before selling it. Sold it with 140k miles and original clutch still grabbing hard.. much better for your drivetrain but worse on your gas mileage
Amazing Car The Best!!!
I’ve had my STi for over two years. I’m 5 feet tall and my seat needs to be pushed as far forward as it can go so I can reach the pedals, thank GOD for the high clutch engagement because I’d have to drive in platform shoes. 😂😂😂
Maybe i am missing something, but the only time i see benefits to rev matching is scenarios where you need to mash down and get going. I don't dont shift for slowing down often cause it eats clutch as it uses the clutch friction to slow. Or if there is a need to help slow quickly, but in this case most people are not going to be thinking rev matching lol.
holy im drooling over your car
I downshifted from 3'rd to 2nd perfectly the other day. On accident. I don't even know if I could replicate what I did. I've only been driving my WRX for four days. :P
Wow I thought it was me . I did felt like a noob on the test and drive and drive home lol . 1st to 2nd gear is rough unless you baby the clutch letting off between shifts. Def need a Cobb AP after the car came with a Cobb intake
I used to rev match but I never was good at it but trying again. So I know the spot where the clutch engages so do I shift from 3rd to 2nd and before I hit that engagement I blip it hard and catch it on release? My question is when shifting from any gear down what appropriate Rpm’s should I be in? What If I’m trying to do a pull in 2nd but I’m in 3rd rolling at 40mph?
You don’t need a loud exhaust to learn how to change gears. You just look at the rpm meter while driving when you are speeding up and change gear at around 2.5.
What year is your sti?
I need to buy this car I love it I love it ❤️❤️
I didn’t know the clutch engagement, but I used to do it every time. I didn’t know I’m doing the right thing lol
well, when downshifting, I blip the throttle in the neutral point between gears and then into gear (you'll feel it want to go in) and then clutch out. Or double clutch sometimes. I agree that 1rst gear tuning kind of is crap. It's jerky and if you gas it, boost just kicks in and straight to redline and is very harsh on the car. Thus, I typically don't take off in 1rst gear. 1rst gear on these cars is really just to get the car rolling.
Beautiful car
I always stall my GR STi when moving from stop on 1st gear. Its so embarrassing. Part of the reason is that my clutch engagement point is almost at the point when I lift off the clutch pedal (long travel from the pedal all the way in). Is there a way to fix this?
I think Rev match is a high speed cornering technique , on daily base I prefer clutch and slowly let off your feet when downshift . Is better for the car as well
You’re riding the clutch by doing that, thus prematurely wearing it down sooner. Rev matching isn’t just for going fast. It increase the life of both the transmission and clutch life overall.
I’m buying a 2018 sti but need to practice my manual driving will it be okay for buying it needing some practice
What year is yours it is beautiful!!!! great way to explain rev matching and why people choose Cobb to set their own boost levels but you put it very easy to rev match a newer sub!!!!
2017
thank you i have a 15 STI and its my 1st standard vehicle. im just worried im not a good enough driver for it hahaha ive gotten better for sure but i always worry sometimes ya know
Haha it happens! As I mentioned, it’s not the easiest car to drive. You’ll get the hang of it.
Foot cam with some heel toe downshifts would be nice
Your camera doesn't catch how loud that Tomei really is, I don't think. It sounds great on camera and would probably be so loud to me in the cabin in person. I literally just got my 2016 STi back from the tuner today and it is driving like a dream. I had it pro tuned at a place and they had it going up to 21 lbs and making 316 whp (non mustang dyno) it was driving rowdy as hell. I got an equal length, uppipe, fuel rails, and a fuel pressure regulator (Cobb fuel stumble kit) installed and the thing is making the same HP on a mustang dyno but about 30 lbs more torque on only 17.5 lbs of boost, and it makes it at 3300 rpm with no fuel stumble. The car is ACTUALLY daily drivable now. It was a mess before I finally got it into the right shop. If they tuned boost to be 21 the thing would probably be a mess again....these tuners make the cars not fun unless you're in a fucking drag race.
So In my 17 sti. If I use the clutch to stop and go with no gas like you did is that wearing out the clutch more?
You don’t want to do that while you’re actually driving. The clutch engagement practice is just to understand where it is so you know when to start applying the throttle.
Take this 2 steps further. Learn to double clutch. It is not necessary, but it is a more fun way to drive and it prolongs the life of your synchros. Also get a light weight flywheel. They just rev so much more freely.
Tune out the rev hang!!!!!
Love the car man! I’m looking to buy a wrx pretty soon, and this video really helps considering I’m still pretty new to manual cars, also where did you get the touchscreen for yours?
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Is it bad if I don’t blip my throttle to rev match when down shifting and just let my clutch slowly take it until it reaches its point? I’m kind of new to my 2020 sti but I thought that’s how down shifting works. Which was just going down a gear, letting go slowly off the clutch until it reaches the rpm’s for that gear and speed while also slightly breaking during the entire process. If that’s not good for my car/clutch I would love to know haha.
Great tips! I learned how to drive stick this year with my WRX. However, I feel like I struggle when it come to being smooth. One of the main things is when Im coming to a stop, sometimes I put my car in neutral instead of downshifting but before coming to a stop the light turns green. Idk how to properly put the car in gear and keep driving smoothly. Ex: coming to a stop at a red light. The light turns green before I get there but I’m going 24mph in neutral just coasting. I’d assume I’d need to put my car in 3rd gear but idk how to do it smoothly to keep going
Drop it into 2nd and slowly let the clutch out and blip the throttle.
@@Scoobyfreak86 ok , thank you!
Rev match?
Mann I thought I was the only one with that issue, lol 5 years deep it's still an issue totally different from my s2k.
Haha it’s not an easy car to drive smoothly! Hope this helps smooth things out for you.
That's bad ass car
If you roll race what rpm is a good start?
4:50 why the heck didn't you tell me this earlier lol. Took one out for a test drive today for the first time and thought Sports # would be the most fun mode and was revving the shit out of it (unintentionally) becasue the accelerator was SO sensitive!
Red line is at 7000 but I feel like going over 3000 before shifting is hard on the engine. Am I wrong?
Great video, what pedal setup do you have? I've been thinking about getting some sort of side extension like you had for the throttle pedal
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had my sti for about 3 months now and still struggle with first to second gear sometimes, can never get it perfect
Wow I love seeing this car man!
Let me know when you want to switch up the wheels I’ll take those beauty’s off your hands!
Would you say the ots Cobb stage 1 + tune is pretty reliable? And fixes most of the stock tube issues? Reliable enough to at least run a couple months before getting a pro tune? Thanks I’m advance!
Yes the Cobb tune will suffice and serve you well.
When i bought my STI in 2017. I have been drivning a stick since I was 10, So 20 years of driving a stick. I never struggled so bad with a stick ever. As i did with my sti. I stalled it a lot at first. First thing I did was to disable the hill hold function. That was a fucking night mare. Second thing I did. I never ever drive with traction control. As soon as I could afford a exhaust that was the third thing I did.
When coming to a stop at a light do you rev match all the way down or do you go into neutral at some point?
Usually to 2nd then after put it into neutral to stop. Also depends on how I’m driving that moment. If I’m just relaxing and driving normal, I usually just pop it into neutral and come to a stop.
Do you have aftermarket pedals? The stock pedals on my WRX get slippery when it’s wet and I would prefer a little more grip. Awesome video!
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Alright so I can't tell if a lot of the time I'm early or late on my clutch letoffs when upshifting but it feels like "jerky"? Like something isn't catching smoothly and it mainly happens when I do small pulls like just trying to run through the gears to cruising speed. Idk, I've owned it for a year and I feel like I've been driving it the same way since the first day and either it's me or it's the car. I feel like I need a better understanding of how everything catches like what'll happen if youre too early, too late, or right there or close to being right there and how to fine tune the adjustment.
You’re letting off the clutch too quick. Slow the release a bit. What you’re doing is actually popping the clutch at the end causing the jerkiness. You want to hold it out at the top a tad to smooth it out.
Any tips on smoothing out the first to second gear shift under normal driving conditions? I feel like I lose a lot of momentum in my WRX during that shift
At the top of the clutch, there’s some play. Hold it in a bit when switching to 2nd. You almost want to slip it to 2nd for a smooth shift.
I've experienced some success when lifting off the clutch with my toes pointing upwards and rolling off with the rest of my foot, exactly how Scooby mentioned with holding it in a bit and "slipping" into 2nd, all while putting in some gas.
Haven't mastered it yet since this motion only seems to be needed when shifting from 1st to 2nd.
It also helps if the tranny is warmed up. I find the first few first to second shifts pretty rough in my WRX especially in the winter. There are moving parts and fluid in there and once the car is at temperature everything becomes much more responsive.
To rev match do you shift then blip the throttle or do you them at the same time ?
Put the clutch in and put into desired gear and blip pretty much simultaneously. But you won’t be able to do it smoothly like that at first. It’ll take practice to get it smoothly, but to start, clutch in, put into gear, blip the throttle, then let the clutch out to catch the rev.
Yup, that's what people tell me how to drive a manual. Found out, that was tough lol.
What fog light setup do you have? I'm looking for some for my 2021 sti
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Broo what's the name of the white bars inside the grill? They look sick with the other white accents
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I neeeeed to know where you got your alcantara dashboard panel from!!!
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I did this on my zx6r it would sound so great but man it just feels so wierd doing it in a car idk why
Great vid. Is there an actual benefit to rev matching, or is it just a cool thing to do?
Longevity of clutch and less strain on your motor.
Good video! Noticed you have tinted windows and no front plate - how is it working out for you in NJ? Looking to tint my new WRX all around but worried about unnecessary tickets and mvc inspection. Thanks in advance for any advice!
Been running tint and no front plate for 20 years. Never had an issue. Nj is an emission only state so you won’t have issues with getting it inspected with tint.
@@Scoobyfreak86good deal!
I am 19 years old, starting college soon; I can afford payments the car while having a part time job but the insurance quotes Ive received from the main companies are INSANE. What insurance do you guys have and or recommend? I might just get a q50 instead if I cannot find a decent priced full coverage Insuracne for a 2016 STI.
mood haha my profile pic is abit outdated but I was paying 370 for my sti but now I got a 2020 m340 so it's 349 for my 340 and miata just gotta keep searching for good quotes
god shes so beautiful 😭😭
What clutch are you running? I bought a used 2011 sti and I can't roll my car forward by engaging the clutch without throttle. It will will stall violently lol. Trying to determine if I've got a lightened flywheel and aftermarket clutch or not. I believe it does but ive never driven one with a stock clutch
Stock clutch
@@Scoobyfreak86 perfect. Thx man. I had a feeling mine wasn't.
Do u floor it when u downshift rev match or just a little tap on the throttle?
Just a tap of the throttle to get the rpm's up. This is one of the parts that will take some practice to know just how much to add when rev matching. It also depends on your speed as well, but it's usually around 3k-3.5k to catch properly when slowing down in a normal scenario.
What tuner would you recommend, I have an 18 sti straight pipes new intake
Depends where you are located. But if looking for an etune, cobb or bren tuning is the way to go.
Dude where do I get the button you have on your drive mode selector?!
It’s by Perrin, but has since been discontinued.
18 psi ? I thought the stock on sharp plus is 25 psi 😬but I do have a tune on mine