Genesis: Attacks Sephiroth on his blind side. Calls him a monster. Verbally tortures him. Also Genesis: Please, old friend, I need you. Your cells could save my life. How to win friends and influence people - by Genesis
@@Ahmed-og2jmHe should have learned better after Angeal decided to kill himself after Genesis told him he was a "monster." Genesis is a complete clown and a horrible excuse for a friend.
Oh wow….Sephiroth was actually a person with a heart that got broken and shattered into a billion pieces all while dealing with the existential terror that he was “special” in the sense that he’s a monster.
It's worse than that. Sephiroth was raised in the isolation of the lab, and then finally got two friends, Angeal and Genesis, when he basically became a child soldier. Then Genesis betrays them all and runs off, and seemingly gets killed. Just as Sephiroth kind of got over that and forged some friendship with Angeal's student Zack, Angeal runs off to join not-actually-dead Genesis and now Sephiroth and Zack are ordered to kill Angeal and Genesis. Sephiroth actually disobeys orders several times, specifically tells Zack "ok, we'll catch up and then fail to eliminate them, and hopefully your puppy eyes can convince them to come back since I couldn't", then, when it fails, lets Zack to go back to Aerith to mourn Angeal's death, while mourning in solitude himself, and then, when he barely got over it and was already on the verge of defecting from Shinra because of how awful Shinra was being, he gets sent to Nibelheim. So yeah, his whole life he wanted to be a normal human being and have friends. Then said friends kept leaving and betraying him, and he found out he's been a monster all along.
@@rosehill7919 FF7 Reality. The Harshness and Heartlessness of Shinra, can indeed destroy a single person, or creature all because of a so-called "Promised Land".
In my eyes, he was never a monster. The greatest monsters here were professor Hojo and Jenova. Sephiroth was a human with infused Jenova cells. Sephiroth was alone and abandoned, this is why he easily submitted his will to Jenova.
When Genesis says, ‘First class SOLDIER Sephiroth!’ Sephiroth sort of snaps to attention. It’s like he was yelled at like that when someone was chastising him or wanted to make sure they had his attention.
I feel like, from Genesis's perspective, this is probably how it all went down in his head: Genesis: "Maybe if I tell Sephiroth the brutal truth about his origins, he will lose all loyalty to Shinra after seeing what they did to make him and help save my life so we can save the planet from Shinra together." Genesis: *Tells Sephiroth the brutal truth about his origins* Sephiroth: *goes insane, kills everyone, does not help save Genesis's life, and dedicates himself to destroying the planet quicker and more efficiently than Shinra ever did* Genesis: "...shit."
From scenes like this I feel like FF7 won't be complete until Sephiroth knows the truth about Lucrecia. The true villain of the saga has always been Hojo. He was behind every catharsis and was the real cause of all the pain of almost all the characters involved in the story. I have always felt that behind Sephiroth's actions and his madness was Jenova herself. That's why I think he deserves redemption and maybe close the story by dying to be reunited with his real mother in the lifestream. I think it would be a beautiful closure that would make us all cry and smile.
Yes, he was the greatest victim of the story. Hojo was the ultimate villain in this story as well as Shin-Ra corporation which allowed all of this nonsense. He was abandoned and alone and there was nobody next to him, this is why Jenova has taken the advantage of that.
Actually, Genesis wasn't really calling Sephiroth a monster in a negative way. He was just referring to the fact that they all were hybrids between Jenova and Human. Sephiroth is the "Perfect Monster" because he can't degrade. That's why Genesis trolls him with "I see. Perfect Monster, Indeed." which means that Sephiroth is truly a monster now.
I feel that if Genesis would have approached him differently, then Sephiroth very well may have given him the cells he needed. But Gene being that beloved drama Llama I have come to adore, delivered the news the worst way.
@@Kronos0999 Genesis has mental issues (he is a paranoid or something similar), he should have received profesional help. Genesis mistakes fiction with reality, he believes his favorite book is reality and he thinks he and his friends are characters fromthat book. This idea subconsciously reached Sephiroth (Sephiroth said the book is on his mind because Genesis recites it a lot). Also, Genesis envies Sephiroth. Part of Genesis is glad that Sephiroth "has cheated" and is not perfect. Also, Sephiroth is a normal human (who was used as guinea pig), the fact that Genesis says the alien is Sephiroth's mother means 1 of 3 things: a) Genesis doesn't know about Biology b) Genesis didn't understand the documents he has read. c) Genesis is consciously lying because he wants to hurt Sephiroth (maybe he thinks it's like giving Sephiroth a fatal blow with a sword). In addition, Angeal is more empathic and emotionally more intelligent. He knew the information would mess with Sephiroth's mind. Angeal knows Sephiroth has personal issues (a father that doesn't give him love and doesn't give him information about who he is, an abscent mother, etc). Angeal knows Sephiroth's identity and Sephiroth's mother are important issues for Sephiroth.
it's so cruel. sephiroth was always there for his friends and was willing to fail the mission to save Angeal and Genesis. And Genesis? "You're a monster. you're mother is a monster and i want that you help me like you always did" I'm glad that sephiroth didn't help him. Sephiroth would help Genesis if he would be still a good friend. Sephiroth suffered and the Genesis didn't care. he wasn't there for him, when Sephiroth needed someone.
Sephiroth was a friend to Genesis buy Genesis wasn t be a friend Sephiroth. Genesis thing about yourself and did stupie things. ( tell to friend you are a monster) Genesis want be a hero but Sephiroth was better. I like Genesis and Sephiroth. They are the victim of Experiment. Sephiroth forget he has a friend, Zack. Zack try help him but he don't know what he should do. Zack was a nice kid. But Sephiroth didn't t see he try help him. Maybe he didn't know the true he only left the job and try live normalny. Before Nibelheim misions he told he want quit a job.
@@rockirocki7246 Sephiroth lost his friends before and he was betrayed by ShinRa. who would you trust after all this? yes, Zack tries to help him but maybe it was too late. I wish Zack would stay in the mansion when sephiroth was reading.
@@rockirocki7246 Genesis and Sephiroth were friends to each other. Unfortunately Genesis has a superiority complex and a massive one at that which caused him to bite himself in the ass with what he said.
@@EvelynL.1112 well it helps that genesis is actually rotting. reminds me of the sequel to that episode of the haunting hour where a boy was tricked by a ghost
Yeah Genesis, go ahead and tell the only person who's having an existential crisis and on the verge of mental collapse, the horrid truth of his origin BEFORE asking him to help you get out of your degradation. Wow, who knew Genesis's thirst for melodrama would be his own undoing. Oh wait, WE all did.
I guess he meant to do that on purpose to bring everyone down with him even when sephiroth decided not to help him it's like he didn't even care in the slidest whether he lives or not
@@mohabalserafe3795 Basically, Genesis thought Sephiroth was a good person even though everyone there was Shinra's guinea pigs. He thought Sephiroth would help him since he isn't really a "Perfect Monster", just a lab experiment. However, at the end of the clip, Genesis throws some criticism on Sephiroth because he was more worried about his ego than helping Genesis and others. That's why Genesis ends by saying "I see. Perfect Monster, Indeed.".
Genesis thought that a Sephiroth who had lost faith in his humanity, who had devolved into a monster, would become his ally. He vastly underestimated Sephiroth’s ego. Even when his pride was shattered, it just took on a new form.
One of the worst people are those who use the truth to hurt others.. while sephiroth actions are his own.. it was Genesis who deliberately use the truth in the worst way Possible... he didn't even consider sephiroths mental stability or Feelings.. in a Sense it was Genesis's own selfish actions that destroyed the bond between Him, angeal and sephiroth.
You think that destroyed the bond? Genesis and Angeal started riot against Shinra and Sephiroth without telling him anything. He wasn't supposed to know, they acted for themselves. A relationship of two or more is never one sided.
I have a feeling that Jenova cells played part in Sephiroth downfall. They always influenced him in some way. However, when he was composed he could control it but when he lost it Jenova cells deteriorated his mind even further and transformed him into something he wasn't. There must be reason why he is so attached to Jenova, despite her being nothing more than mutated corpse.
@@TaigaXsenpai You're getting warmer. A bit of a long post but bare with me: Back at the Mansion (in the original FF7 game) after Sephiroth discovered the truth from the Mako reactor, he picked up the false info from Dr Gast's research papers, implying that Jenova was one of the Ancient (Cetras) of the past. (Jenova is an Alien parasite and does what parasite does best, eat the host inside-out and move on to the next host; like rabies but on a massive scale, like planet size scale.) Sephiroth confused his mother (by the way, he has 2 mothers, but I'm not going to spoil that tibit) to be both, an Ancient and a deity from outer space. Sephiroth went mad by fully embracing his superiority/God complex, (I blame his Dad for that since his Dad does think he is superior to everyone and anything..) thinking it was his right to rule earth and that it was his duty in bringing his people into the "promise land", essentially the same way his Mother Jenova did, not realizing he's following in his Alien Mother's footsteps.
@@Introversion399 A 20+ year old game (spoilers or not, since I'm sure that people could look up this info for it regardless). This is correct, Jenova (the parasite that deteriorates all matter, living and everything, until there is nothing left), and Sephiroth's birth mother (Lucrecia), and Hojo (Sephiroth's Father). Regardless of what has been done. Regardless of how it starts. Sephiroth, would eventually become what he is later on in the story. Monster? No. Perfect Human with Monster and Jenova Cells? Plausible. Either way. Sephiroth, because of his mental state, became invested in learning about Jenova, as misinformation on her, the misinformation from Dr. Gast, because no one, not even him, knew better at the time, yet still, by the time Sephiroth was born, it was already too late to undo the research, or not undo it at all as they wanted a "Perfect Soldier", so just rolled with him being an "ancient" to soothe his mind. And still, here we are. Sephiroth's slow decent into pure utter madness because of his so called "Friend" who brought him the truth. He is, of course, rightfully pissed. As I too would be, if my life was considered a "lie" up to this point.
I would say the same to any so-called "friend" of mine. I hate it when toxic people try to take advantage of me by breaking me down and then having the nerve to appeal to our "friendship" just to benefit their selfish needs/wants! Forget them! They don't deserve anything from me! They can go eat dirt!
No, you feel with Genesis, he was just another victim of the damn project. And the last man standing. Not his fault someone used them all as laboratory rats.
A lot of people don't like Dirge of Cerberus, but if we take what Hojo said in that game, he literally made Sephiroth a threat to the planet so that Omega would awaken and that he could become a god by fusing with Omega. He knew about Omega before Sephiroth was even an idea, so he was always planning on using Omega from the start and probably saw JENOVA as a good test subject to produce horrifying threats to the planet in an attempt to awaken Omega and got lucky with Sephiroth.
People don't like that they did this and also ask why does Sephiroth go to the Library after this. Me? -Gongaga- I think that Sephiroth went to the Library to see if Genesis' words were true or not.
Y’know the scene where Sephiroth starts holding his head?? I always thought he got some random headache, or that the scene was added to be dramatic or something. bUT ACTUALLY 😎 after suffering from a few myself, I can fully confirm that the man was probably at the verge of a panic attack. He was probably trying really, REALLY hard to keep himself together, especially after seeing the name “Jenova” on the wall entrance and then seeing literal monsters in the tank made by mako overdose. But holding your head, pulling your hairs, covering your mouth, losing your balance from light-headedness-all those things usually happen before an attack starts. And it’s really sad 🥲 poor baby bwoy
Honestly, after seeing this scene last night, I didnt feel any hate or dislike the man that much. Practically, you can see he was having an intercal crisis. He look so scared and sad, I feel more bad for him than dislike or hate. Even more considering then Jenova gets in his brain and turns him into a monster. Though, all the shit through out Crisis Core first half didnt help either, like Genesis is in this scene. The way his briws furrowed, his eyes were down casted and shifting to one spot to the other and his lips turn down, his voice was shaky, I just wanted to give Sephiroth a hug then.
The facial expressions on Sephiroth are just... *chefs kiss* I always felt like something was missing in the original to help us connect with Sephiroth and his slow spiraling descent.
I'd be pretty upset too if someone told me something this crazy about what was supposed to be my mom, who in turn, never truly existed outside of Shinra's mad science projects and the extremely nosey ears of Midgar. Now try to picture yourself taking all that in at once while the jerk that just told you is now casually reciting poems..
See I felt the exact opposite. Newbern was an absolute beast in Advent Children, but to be honest I think Hoechlin does better in Crisis Core. Especially the “You will rot” line.
@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 it sounds the exact same as every like he reads. 0 malice, 0 hatred. Just the exact same monotone delivery as usual. There's a difference between Hoechlin and Newbern's monotone. Hoechlin is monotone because he's actually trying to sound like an adult when his normal voice is a squeaker voice. Newbern has a naturally deep voice and can sound naturally like an adult, and his monotone is better because you know that Sephiroth struggles with interactions and such. Sephiroth doesn't sound older than even the people who he is older than. Like Tifa and Cloud. Both sound deep and mature. Sephiroth? The only reason his voice is slightly "deep" is because he's repeating Newbern's lines in crisis core, tone and pauses and all. Rebirth when he is a hero will show his squeaker voice, and young Cloud will sound older than Sephiroth once again. You WILL be proven wrong. And I WILL be proven right. Hoechlin doesn't have a deep voice, he sucks, fire him.
@@zealousrunner7 There’s nothing to prove right or wrong. It’s all subjective opinion lmfao The point is, you’re annoying as fuck. You’ve been crying and complaining in the comments for literally years now. Get over it lmfao Literally your entire rant is just your own opinions.
@@zealousrunner7 And Newbern does not have a naturally deep voice lmfao 😂 I’ve seen him in several shows, he intentionally makes his voice sound anime. His normal voice is actually quite whiny. That right there shows how little you actually know.
@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 whiny? Lmao. Have you seen interviews with him? He sounds like a very chill normal man, while Hoechlin? Lmao. That guy doesn't even sound like he's in his 20s. THAT'S a whiny voice. You can't seriously say Hoechlin has a deeper voice than Newbern. Because that's factually wrong.
Something i noticed even as a child about sephiroths descent into villainy is that is ultimatly fuelled by total unending despair. He's effectively spent the following decades screaming and smashing everything hes come into contact with like a someone whose just lost everything trashing their room. What were a effectively watching is a godlike being suffering histories longest breakdown.
People really don't realise that it's Jenova that's taken over Genesis, and is doing the EXACT SAME thing as to what it does to Cloud when using Sephiroth as its avatar.
People saying it would be different if Lucretia would meet Sephiroth. No! She’s a horrible person just like Hojo. Sephiroth deserves better than her. She gave her baby up for a vile experiment that could have turned out horribly. Just because she cries in a cave doenst maker her a good person.
I feel like this was the breaking point with Sephiroth when Genesis ruined his friendship with him (Also felt like that bridge fell ages ago!) And you can see Genesis is bonkers crazy here. I feel bad about Sephiroth here, while Sephiroth's actions are his own, it was Genesis that planted the seed here in him. Also for those who are wondering about why Cloud isn't here, he was outside keeping sure Tifa wouldn't get into the reactor, he had a mask on so you didn't see him, if that makes sense. I know it's confusing since cloud is here in the original game, but I reckon when Zack and Cloud had been in that mako tank, their memories kinda joined up but it wasn't complete or something like that. I hope that helps a bit.
Its still uncanny not hearing George Newberns voice coming out of Sephiroth. Of all the remake voices I think this is the one I'm still having a hard time adjusting too.
I struggle getting used to any of them, but Newbern's performance is just on another level. This scene is a perfect example... "You will rot..." hits so hard in the original. In this, it just reads like every other line.
Sephiroth Is Basically An Evil Version Of Superman And Son Goku When They Discovers Their True Heritages When Sephiroth Finds Out About Him Being Jenova Perfect Creation He Falls Into Madness And Develops A God Complex While Superman And Goku Embraces Their True Heritages(Kryptonian And Saiyan) With Open Arms And Uses Their Immense Powers To Protects The Innocents From Any Harms
Honestly, Genesis is the biggest clown of FF7 to me. He had a slam dunk opportunity to recruit arguably the most powerful person in the world at that point and used the opportunity to belittle him instead. It makes sense with his character completely, Genesis always felt inadequate compared to Sephiroth, so he couldn't resist holding the truth about his creation over him and rubbing in the painful truth, but pride always comes before the fall.
maybe genesis thought if he breaks sephiroth then there is higher chance that sephiroth would share his cells with him, after all that was all he ever cared about to stop his rotting
Genesis dream was to give Sephiroth one of his apples to taste from his family. It was probably already the degrading that caused him madness. Originally Genesis liked Sephiroth
It still feels iffy that all this was at Nibelheim, but none of it was in FF7 (I just tell myself Cloud couldnt remember this stuff or was just in another room and just happened to miss everything.)
I mean, if you actually think about it, Cloud was in fact somewhere else at this time, so he couldn't have known about Genesis telling Sephiroth about his origins. And, possibly, the notion that Sephiroth thought himself a Cetra may have been an assumption on Cloud's part; a fact that's alluded to in the original FF7 when Sephiroth explicitly refers to Jenova as The Calamity from The Skies when he and Cloud meet each other again in Nibelheim.
That's why he keeps chasing cloud every time. He thinks they are the same. Cloud should live like him instead of being happy. Maybe he is a little jealous of cloud and doesn't want him to be happy.
I know this conversation has been had constantly, but even with the voice acting in this game being hit and miss, I can’t help but love Tyler Hoechlin’s portrayal of Sephiroth. I adore George Newbern’s version, don’t get me wrong, but I think Hoechlin does a much better job of capturing that feeling of brokenness and the realization that everything Sephy thought he knew was a complete lie. I think my point can be emphasized with the “Traitor” voiceline during the boss fight. When Newbern says it, you can hear the coldness and the barely contained anger in his voice, but Hoechlin’s version sounds broken and unhinged, which I think better represents Sephiroth’s character. Keep in mind that this is entirely subjective, and while I enjoy Newbern’s portrayal, I think Hoechlin did a phenomenal job of capturing that emotion.
genesis really tried to bring everything down with him. I wonder what they will do with him and Zack in the next ff7. idk what happened exactly but the remake told us that everything has been altered for some reason and I think we will have 2 different timelines, one with cloud and one with Zack.
I wonder how history would have changed, had Zack opened that coffin he found, and woke the sleeping guy inside up. Outside of Hojo, that sleeping guy inside is the only one who could tell Sephiroth about his real mother. Hojo knew what he was doing when he said Jenova. He completely erased Lucrecia from the conversation. Any mention of her was probably also purged from the Manor. Best get it from that sleeping boio in the coffin, then.
@@zealousrunner7 No he doesn’t. Is this seriously all you do all day is go around every single video involving Sephiroth and complain with your multiple accounts….? It’s been 3 years. Get over it lol
I always liked Genesis, always will. People call him monster, he just started a rebellion against real monsters - those who put him in a tube and messed with his genes, and hunted him for it. This is one so realistic game and story
@@elizabethchint2391 You're not supposed to like Genesis, he's a villain. How does him being an unlikable jerk make him a "terrible character" when you're meant to dislike him?
@@elizabethchint2391 He is amazing character, and if you listen to the verses he repeats, you will see the whole picture. Three friends entered in battle, one was captured, one escaped, the last one became a hero. Genesis is the last man standing from the three friends. He never died, actually. So because Sephiroth is oh so hot, his crimes are forgiven, but Genesis is a jerk? You are pathetic!
Sephiroth: *tearing up* Am I a human being? 😥😢 Mario: And cut! Great-a job, Seph. *sees Sephiroth crying* Hey. Are you-a okay, Sephiroth? Sephiroth: *crying* I… I need to rest for 15 minutes. 😢😭 Mario: Ok. Somebody give him some-a tissues please. Kirby: *hands over Sephiroth some tissues* Poyo! (Here!) Sephiroth: *grabs a tissue and blows his nose* Thanks. 🤧😢 Bayonetta: *in her 3 costume* Oh boy. *proceeds to hug Sephiroth*
Sephiroth to me is the most tragic final boss in Final Fantasy History. He's a former war hero that was manipulated into becoming a harbinger of death by an alien parasite thanks to a fucked up experiment by Hojo. He was tricked into killing his actual friends and family all because Shinra fucked him over. He's not even the one that killed Aerith.
I'm kind of confused. I haven't played the games just like to read and follow the story, but didn't Sephiroth already know about all this from Shinra Manor?
So if he heard this prior to nibelheim incident, why would he go mad there and kill everyone after locking himself in the mansion, maybe that's the timeline split,.Genesis.
This scene solidified Genesis as a top 3 character in Crisis Core for me. Not that he wasn't already awesome but his approach here was just 10/10 on point
@@amuroray9115 What was he supposed to do? Lie to him and kiss his ass? "No problem bro you're 100% human, but uh...look I need your uhm human cells that uh aren't Jenova or nothing or well they are but uh Jenova isn't a monster she was human but yeah I need those cells to cure my degradation." Jenova was literally in the tank behind them and only an idiot would try to lie in that scenario where all common sense says that Sephiroth will come to the truth very quickly as he did. Honesty is the best policy here, they're friends, or they're supposed to be and Genesis was right about everything he said. It's not his fault Sephiroth went mad. His sanity was already starting to crack.
@@amuroray9115 He was as direct as possible. How did Genesis ruin his mind? Sephiroth was already starting to lose it before Genesis even spoke a word. He cut the tank and saw the monster. Then he went in the basement and read all the records and lost his mind completely. Genesis had nothing to do with it
This is before Sephiroth went into the Shinra Manor basement and read all the records Genesis should have kept his mouth shut about Jenova and just asked for help.
I would have laughed so hard if one of those static things happened in the Rebirth flashback and you got a few frames of Genesis. Would have laughed, and then been very sad. Really happy Rebirth handled the flashback almost perfectly
Ok, now that Rebirth is out and this scene is played again without Genesis (just like in the OG game) makes me think that the devs understood that having Genesis here was fucking stupid and decided to scrap every trace of him during the Nibbleheim visit. Seriously, IDK how they thought including Genesis here would make this scene better.
Nope, that's what hurts me the most. If he knew he had another biological mom that still existed, and that she still cared for him, Sephiroth would've been a completely different person growing up. But to be fair, it was all her fault to begin with. She had a guilty conscience over what happened to Vincent's Dad and couldn't 'cope', then she went and started a relationship with Hojo* thinking it was for the best (it was not for the best...) after Vincent discovered that Lucretia was part of the research team that was with his Dad looking for the Chaos materia, where he died, ended up screwing both Vincent's and Lucretia's futures permanently. She was too hard-headed to be reasoned with. She couldn't accept that Vincent was ok with his Fathers' death.
Poor Sephiroth. I cried during this! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭I NEVER liked Genesis. Reunion was actually the first Final Fantasy VII video game I ever played. The Switch version was the most amazing Christmas gift ever! Right now I'm on Chapter 5 and the Genesis boss fight is so annoying. I have died way too many times than I can recall. The BOSS FIGHT with Genesis in Chapter 5: Where Are You? is ridiculous.
Sephiroth's voice is also meh. He was way better in the original. Genesis and Angeal try to sound as close as possible to the original so their performance are solid.
@@georgehouliaras7239 I disagree. George's performance lacks any emotion except "menace". Tyler's actually makes me believe how much this revelation hurts Sephiroth and how much he can't stand Genesis for telling him this.
@@writer_man5318 Tyler also makes Sephiroth sound like a whiny little bitch when he tells Genesis to rot. Vs how Newbern made Sephiroth sound angry while saying it.
He wasn’t a monster….
He was a good man with a good heart that only wanted a normal life… with a mom he never had…
ya have a feeling the lifestream and square will give him that closure in the next remake game.
i hope...
No once he realised he was nothing but an experiment he wanted blood
That good man he once was younger..
His mom is Lucrecia Cresent
Genesis: Attacks Sephiroth on his blind side. Calls him a monster. Verbally tortures him.
Also Genesis: Please, old friend, I need you. Your cells could save my life.
How to win friends and influence people - by Genesis
Right ? 😂
He is saying us monsters should stick together
@@Ahmed-og2jmHe should have learned better after Angeal decided to kill himself after Genesis told him he was a "monster." Genesis is a complete clown and a horrible excuse for a friend.
Genesis is just that desperate and asshole of a friend... Sephy deserved better
@@EvelynL.1112 Wouldn't be surprised the degradation affected his mind in some way.
Oh wow….Sephiroth was actually a person with a heart that got broken and shattered into a billion pieces all while dealing with the existential terror that he was “special” in the sense that he’s a monster.
I guess that's the first time for you to experience final fantasy 7 lore
It's worse than that. Sephiroth was raised in the isolation of the lab, and then finally got two friends, Angeal and Genesis, when he basically became a child soldier. Then Genesis betrays them all and runs off, and seemingly gets killed. Just as Sephiroth kind of got over that and forged some friendship with Angeal's student Zack, Angeal runs off to join not-actually-dead Genesis and now Sephiroth and Zack are ordered to kill Angeal and Genesis. Sephiroth actually disobeys orders several times, specifically tells Zack "ok, we'll catch up and then fail to eliminate them, and hopefully your puppy eyes can convince them to come back since I couldn't", then, when it fails, lets Zack to go back to Aerith to mourn Angeal's death, while mourning in solitude himself, and then, when he barely got over it and was already on the verge of defecting from Shinra because of how awful Shinra was being, he gets sent to Nibelheim. So yeah, his whole life he wanted to be a normal human being and have friends. Then said friends kept leaving and betraying him, and he found out he's been a monster all along.
@@rosehill7919 FF7 Reality. The Harshness and Heartlessness of Shinra, can indeed destroy a single person, or creature all because of a so-called "Promised Land".
In my eyes, he was never a monster. The greatest monsters here were professor Hojo and Jenova. Sephiroth was a human with infused Jenova cells. Sephiroth was alone and abandoned, this is why he easily submitted his will to Jenova.
@@aydanrzayeva6210 The Wutai war and the corpses he piled on say otherwise.
When Genesis says, ‘First class SOLDIER Sephiroth!’ Sephiroth sort of snaps to attention. It’s like he was yelled at like that when someone was chastising him or wanted to make sure they had his attention.
I feel like, from Genesis's perspective, this is probably how it all went down in his head:
Genesis: "Maybe if I tell Sephiroth the brutal truth about his origins, he will lose all loyalty to Shinra after seeing what they did to make him and help save my life so we can save the planet from Shinra together."
Genesis: *Tells Sephiroth the brutal truth about his origins*
Sephiroth: *goes insane, kills everyone, does not help save Genesis's life, and dedicates himself to destroying the planet quicker and more efficiently than Shinra ever did*
Genesis: "...shit."
Truth. Maybe that’s why he recruited Angeal too 😂
@@jamesssdasds And poor dude failed him as well 😭
From scenes like this I feel like FF7 won't be complete until Sephiroth knows the truth about Lucrecia. The true villain of the saga has always been Hojo. He was behind every catharsis and was the real cause of all the pain of almost all the characters involved in the story. I have always felt that behind Sephiroth's actions and his madness was Jenova herself. That's why I think he deserves redemption and maybe close the story by dying to be reunited with his real mother in the lifestream. I think it would be a beautiful closure that would make us all cry and smile.
This has been a dream of mine since beating the game so long ago and I was so disappointed with Dirge of Cerberus.
Meh
Yea sephiroth hasn't gotten his full sequel yet even with Advent Children and DIC done
Yes, he was the greatest victim of the story. Hojo was the ultimate villain in this story as well as Shin-Ra corporation which allowed all of this nonsense. He was abandoned and alone and there was nobody next to him, this is why Jenova has taken the advantage of that.
Hojo and jenova are the main villains not sephiroth he was used
Zack: GENESIS NO !
stay quiet for 3 min
Zack again: NO STOP !
His ATB meter for replies is on the slowest setting.
@@aratima hahaha good one
🤣🤣🤣
Tell Sephiroth that he is a genetically engineered monster, then expect him to help you because you are both months. Smooth brain move, Genesis.
doesn't help that he told him hes a monster nonstop like it helps seph more lol
Actually, Genesis wasn't really calling Sephiroth a monster in a negative way. He was just referring to the fact that they all were hybrids between Jenova and Human. Sephiroth is the "Perfect Monster" because he can't degrade. That's why Genesis trolls him with "I see. Perfect Monster, Indeed." which means that Sephiroth is truly a monster now.
His brain IS degrading lol
Ah yes, the moment Sephiroth the hero dies and Sephiroth the villain is born.
Sephiroth was such a cool character
If only someone told him who his real mother was
@@Kronos0999 you don't know Jack shit of his character if you like the new VA of his
@@Killer_Kool7 You should probably learn to read, redditor
@@Killer_Kool7 he didn’t say that though?
I feel that if Genesis would have approached him differently, then Sephiroth very well may have given him the cells he needed. But Gene being that beloved drama Llama I have come to adore, delivered the news the worst way.
Yeah, when he was nice. But then they made Sephiroth get a superiority complex.
@@Kronos0999 Genesis has mental issues (he is a paranoid or something similar), he should have received profesional help. Genesis mistakes fiction with reality, he believes his favorite book is reality and he thinks he and his friends are characters fromthat book. This idea subconsciously reached Sephiroth (Sephiroth said the book is on his mind because Genesis recites it a lot).
Also, Genesis envies Sephiroth. Part of Genesis is glad that Sephiroth "has cheated" and is not perfect.
Also, Sephiroth is a normal human (who was used as guinea pig), the fact that Genesis says the alien is Sephiroth's mother means 1 of 3 things:
a) Genesis doesn't know about Biology
b) Genesis didn't understand the documents he has read.
c) Genesis is consciously lying because he wants to hurt Sephiroth (maybe he thinks it's like giving Sephiroth a fatal blow with a sword).
In addition, Angeal is more empathic and emotionally more intelligent. He knew the information would mess with Sephiroth's mind.
Angeal knows Sephiroth has personal issues (a father that doesn't give him love and doesn't give him information about who he is, an abscent mother, etc).
Angeal knows Sephiroth's identity and Sephiroth's mother are important issues for Sephiroth.
The great manipulator behind the world's biggest menace. This is why Genesis is the true main antagonist here
@@dis1488pear he's literally the worst character in the whole compilation and exists solely because Nomura was gay for Gackt
@@tabbofii I'm pretty sure Genesis was meant to be hated one way or another. So it's a win-win situation.
it's so cruel. sephiroth was always there for his friends and was willing to fail the mission to save Angeal and Genesis. And Genesis? "You're a monster. you're mother is a monster and i want that you help me like you always did" I'm glad that sephiroth didn't help him. Sephiroth would help Genesis if he would be still a good friend. Sephiroth suffered and the Genesis didn't care. he wasn't there for him, when Sephiroth needed someone.
Sephiroth was a friend to Genesis buy Genesis wasn t be a friend Sephiroth. Genesis thing about yourself and did stupie things. ( tell to friend you are a monster) Genesis want be a hero but Sephiroth was better. I like Genesis and Sephiroth. They are the victim of Experiment. Sephiroth forget he has a friend, Zack. Zack try help him but he don't know what he should do. Zack was a nice kid. But Sephiroth didn't t see he try help him. Maybe he didn't know the true he only left the job and try live normalny. Before Nibelheim misions he told he want quit a job.
@@rockirocki7246 Sephiroth lost his friends before and he was betrayed by ShinRa. who would you trust after all this? yes, Zack tries to help him but maybe it was too late. I wish Zack would stay in the mansion when sephiroth was reading.
@@rockirocki7246 Genesis and Sephiroth were friends to each other. Unfortunately Genesis has a superiority complex and a massive one at that which caused him to bite himself in the ass with what he said.
I love it that Sephiroth basically tells Genesis to go to Hell but with different words! He's such a beautiful character!
Yeah, he doesn't need to swear in order to tell people off! They just need to get the message that he's absolutely done with them!
Sephiroth in this scene shows that he's had enough and has given up on Genesis
@@EvelynL.1112 well it helps that genesis is actually rotting. reminds me of the sequel to that episode of the haunting hour where a boy was tricked by a ghost
Sephiroth would have help , but no genesis had to deliver all those low blows till he pushed his friend away smh
“Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.” Winston Churchill
Yeah Genesis, go ahead and tell the only person who's having an existential crisis and on the verge of mental collapse, the horrid truth of his origin BEFORE asking him to help you get out of your degradation.
Wow, who knew Genesis's thirst for melodrama would be his own undoing. Oh wait, WE all did.
I guess he meant to do that on purpose to bring everyone down with him even when sephiroth decided not to help him it's like he didn't even care in the slidest whether he lives or not
@@mohabalserafe3795 Basically, Genesis thought Sephiroth was a good person even though everyone there was Shinra's guinea pigs. He thought Sephiroth would help him since he isn't really a "Perfect Monster", just a lab experiment. However, at the end of the clip, Genesis throws some criticism on Sephiroth because he was more worried about his ego than helping Genesis and others. That's why Genesis ends by saying "I see. Perfect Monster, Indeed.".
Genesis “LOVELESS”
He is a sassy bitch that loves drama
Genesis thought that a Sephiroth who had lost faith in his humanity, who had devolved into a monster, would become his ally.
He vastly underestimated Sephiroth’s ego. Even when his pride was shattered, it just took on a new form.
One of the worst people are those who use the truth to hurt others.. while sephiroth actions are his own.. it was Genesis who deliberately use the truth in the worst way Possible... he didn't even consider sephiroths mental stability or Feelings.. in a Sense it was Genesis's own selfish actions that destroyed the bond between Him, angeal and sephiroth.
you could say
he was the genesis of sephiroths insanity
You think that destroyed the bond? Genesis and Angeal started riot against Shinra and Sephiroth without telling him anything. He wasn't supposed to know, they acted for themselves. A relationship of two or more is never one sided.
I have a feeling that Jenova cells played part in Sephiroth downfall. They always influenced him in some way. However, when he was composed he could control it but when he lost it
Jenova cells deteriorated his mind even further and transformed him into something he wasn't.
There must be reason why he is so attached to Jenova, despite her being nothing more than mutated corpse.
@@TaigaXsenpai
You're getting warmer. A bit of a long post but bare with me:
Back at the Mansion (in the original FF7 game) after Sephiroth discovered the truth from the Mako reactor, he picked up the false info from Dr Gast's research papers, implying that Jenova was one of the Ancient (Cetras) of the past. (Jenova is an Alien parasite and does what parasite does best, eat the host inside-out and move on to the next host; like rabies but on a massive scale, like planet size scale.)
Sephiroth confused his mother (by the way, he has 2 mothers, but I'm not going to spoil that tibit) to be both, an Ancient and a deity from outer space.
Sephiroth went mad by fully embracing his superiority/God complex, (I blame his Dad for that since his Dad does think he is superior to everyone and anything..) thinking it was his right to rule earth and that it was his duty in bringing his people into the "promise land", essentially the same way his Mother Jenova did, not realizing he's following in his Alien Mother's footsteps.
@@Introversion399 A 20+ year old game (spoilers or not, since I'm sure that people could look up this info for it regardless). This is correct, Jenova (the parasite that deteriorates all matter, living and everything, until there is nothing left), and Sephiroth's birth mother (Lucrecia), and Hojo (Sephiroth's Father). Regardless of what has been done. Regardless of how it starts. Sephiroth, would eventually become what he is later on in the story. Monster? No. Perfect Human with Monster and Jenova Cells? Plausible. Either way. Sephiroth, because of his mental state, became invested in learning about Jenova, as misinformation on her, the misinformation from Dr. Gast, because no one, not even him, knew better at the time, yet still, by the time Sephiroth was born, it was already too late to undo the research, or not undo it at all as they wanted a "Perfect Soldier", so just rolled with him being an "ancient" to soothe his mind.
And still, here we are. Sephiroth's slow decent into pure utter madness because of his so called "Friend" who brought him the truth. He is, of course, rightfully pissed. As I too would be, if my life was considered a "lie" up to this point.
I really love how Sephiroth just had enough of Genesis's bullcrap that he refuses and tells him to rot. Pretty much how we all feel with Genesis lol
I would say the same to any so-called "friend" of mine. I hate it when toxic people try to take advantage of me by breaking me down and then having the nerve to appeal to our "friendship" just to benefit their selfish needs/wants! Forget them! They don't deserve anything from me! They can go eat dirt!
@@EvelynL.1112 These kinds of people do not deserve our friendship
@@broknight9718 EXACTLY
Don't forget he showed up at the end of dirge of cerebrus alive and well :) that's the game I want them to to remaster. And ya know fix it.
No, you feel with Genesis, he was just another victim of the damn project. And the last man standing. Not his fault someone used them all as laboratory rats.
Who says “you’re a monster!” Then proceeds to ask them for help?!
A lot of people don't like Dirge of Cerberus, but if we take what Hojo said in that game, he literally made Sephiroth a threat to the planet so that Omega would awaken and that he could become a god by fusing with Omega. He knew about Omega before Sephiroth was even an idea, so he was always planning on using Omega from the start and probably saw JENOVA as a good test subject to produce horrifying threats to the planet in an attempt to awaken Omega and got lucky with Sephiroth.
Genesis spends the whole game being an asshole to everyone and then makes a surprised Pikachu face when no one wants to help him.
That's why he became an incel and locked himself up in a cave.
2:22 holy shit. That is a face of actual depression….
You are breaking him, Genesis. Why are you trying to break him ?!?
probably to make him share his cells with him
@@arshameghtedary344 people always be trying to be friends with me when they really just want me for my cells. 😂
People don't like that they did this and also ask why does Sephiroth go to the Library after this. Me? -Gongaga- I think that Sephiroth went to the Library to see if Genesis' words were true or not.
The look on Sephiroth’s face at 1:43 looks like that he knows that everything is a lie now after Genesis tells him the truth about Jenova
That was exactly what that clip was supposed to express, good job Captain Obvious; you're learning!
Yes very sad hot anime man very deep and profound emotional reaction. 10/10
Y’know the scene where Sephiroth starts holding his head?? I always thought he got some random headache, or that the scene was added to be dramatic or something. bUT ACTUALLY 😎 after suffering from a few myself, I can fully confirm that the man was probably at the verge of a panic attack.
He was probably trying really, REALLY hard to keep himself together, especially after seeing the name “Jenova” on the wall entrance and then seeing literal monsters in the tank made by mako overdose. But holding your head, pulling your hairs, covering your mouth, losing your balance from light-headedness-all those things usually happen before an attack starts. And it’s really sad 🥲 poor baby bwoy
if only sephiroth learned of his true mother, he wouldn't have to view himself as a monster.
Maybe the remake can make that happen? *Wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
Yeah since Vincent was in the basement in the manor all that time.
I'm kind of glad that Sephiroth never learned of that and Hojo. There was a sense of realism in that. I hope they don't change it.
@@natediaz1863 never learn what?
@@blacky8987Not learning who his actual mother was.
Honestly, after seeing this scene last night, I didnt feel any hate or dislike the man that much. Practically, you can see he was having an intercal crisis. He look so scared and sad, I feel more bad for him than dislike or hate. Even more considering then Jenova gets in his brain and turns him into a monster. Though, all the shit through out Crisis Core first half didnt help either, like Genesis is in this scene. The way his briws furrowed, his eyes were down casted and shifting to one spot to the other and his lips turn down, his voice was shaky, I just wanted to give Sephiroth a hug then.
The facial expressions on Sephiroth are just... *chefs kiss* I always felt like something was missing in the original to help us connect with Sephiroth and his slow spiraling descent.
Sephiroth in this game reminds me of Xemnas.
I'd be pretty upset too if someone told me something this crazy about what was supposed to be my mom, who in turn, never truly existed outside of Shinra's mad science projects and the extremely nosey ears of Midgar.
Now try to picture yourself taking all that in at once while the jerk that just told you is now casually reciting poems..
"You will rot." While I like Sephiroth's new voice actor to me George Newborn's take on that line was perfect.
See I felt the exact opposite.
Newbern was an absolute beast in Advent Children, but to be honest I think Hoechlin does better in Crisis Core. Especially the “You will rot” line.
@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 it sounds the exact same as every like he reads. 0 malice, 0 hatred. Just the exact same monotone delivery as usual. There's a difference between Hoechlin and Newbern's monotone.
Hoechlin is monotone because he's actually trying to sound like an adult when his normal voice is a squeaker voice.
Newbern has a naturally deep voice and can sound naturally like an adult, and his monotone is better because you know that Sephiroth struggles with interactions and such.
Sephiroth doesn't sound older than even the people who he is older than. Like Tifa and Cloud. Both sound deep and mature. Sephiroth? The only reason his voice is slightly "deep" is because he's repeating Newbern's lines in crisis core, tone and pauses and all.
Rebirth when he is a hero will show his squeaker voice, and young Cloud will sound older than Sephiroth once again. You WILL be proven wrong. And I WILL be proven right.
Hoechlin doesn't have a deep voice, he sucks, fire him.
@@zealousrunner7 There’s nothing to prove right or wrong. It’s all subjective opinion lmfao
The point is, you’re annoying as fuck. You’ve been crying and complaining in the comments for literally years now. Get over it lmfao
Literally your entire rant is just your own opinions.
@@zealousrunner7 And Newbern does not have a naturally deep voice lmfao 😂
I’ve seen him in several shows, he intentionally makes his voice sound anime.
His normal voice is actually quite whiny. That right there shows how little you actually know.
@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 whiny? Lmao. Have you seen interviews with him? He sounds like a very chill normal man, while Hoechlin? Lmao. That guy doesn't even sound like he's in his 20s. THAT'S a whiny voice. You can't seriously say Hoechlin has a deeper voice than Newbern. Because that's factually wrong.
whoo Sephiroth knocking the apple out of Genesis' hand in 4K
Something i noticed even as a child about sephiroths descent into villainy is that is ultimatly fuelled by total unending despair. He's effectively spent the following decades screaming and smashing everything hes come into contact with like a someone whose just lost everything trashing their room.
What were a effectively watching is a godlike being suffering histories longest breakdown.
"Some say that she's a monster... That she can peer into your very soul. Become those you hate, those you fear....... those you love"
People really don't realise that it's Jenova that's taken over Genesis, and is doing the EXACT SAME thing as to what it does to Cloud when using Sephiroth as its avatar.
Poor Seph. I wish I could give him a hug, but I also don’t wanna die young.
People saying it would be different if Lucretia would meet Sephiroth. No! She’s a horrible person just like Hojo. Sephiroth deserves better than her. She gave her baby up for a vile experiment that could have turned out horribly. Just because she cries in a cave doenst maker her a good person.
@@CrewmateWeiWuxian-t8d yeah. But I hope they don’t make a redemption story for her
"I suppose i am if u can call this living💅" 😭
Crisis Core was the perfect example of when something isn’t broke don’t fix it.
I feel like this was the breaking point with Sephiroth when Genesis ruined his friendship with him (Also felt like that bridge fell ages ago!) And you can see Genesis is bonkers crazy here. I feel bad about Sephiroth here, while Sephiroth's actions are his own, it was Genesis that planted the seed here in him.
Also for those who are wondering about why Cloud isn't here, he was outside keeping sure Tifa wouldn't get into the reactor, he had a mask on so you didn't see him, if that makes sense. I know it's confusing since cloud is here in the original game, but I reckon when Zack and Cloud had been in that mako tank, their memories kinda joined up but it wasn't complete or something like that. I hope that helps a bit.
Genesis fucked up by calling him a monster. Bro could’ve explained this whole thing kindly to him 😭
Its still uncanny not hearing George Newberns voice coming out of Sephiroth.
Of all the remake voices I think this is the one I'm still having a hard time adjusting too.
Mine is Zack but yeah, being such an avid fan of crisis core this scene is burned into my memory so it’s weird hearing different voices
I struggle getting used to any of them, but Newbern's performance is just on another level. This scene is a perfect example... "You will rot..." hits so hard in the original. In this, it just reads like every other line.
i can almost hear gackts voice when genesis is talking
One of my favorite scenes from the og crisis core!
Sephiroth Is Basically An Evil Version Of Superman And Son Goku When They Discovers Their True Heritages
When Sephiroth Finds Out About Him Being Jenova Perfect Creation He Falls Into Madness And Develops A God Complex
While Superman And Goku Embraces Their True Heritages(Kryptonian And Saiyan) With Open Arms And Uses Their Immense Powers To Protects The Innocents From Any Harms
"You've never actually met your mother. Let me tell you a story about how I met your mother"
One would think, if someone told him the ACTUAL truth of his origins, Sephiroth might've turned out different.
"Lucrecia."
She gave him up for experiments so she could be famous. In no way is she a good mother or any better than Hojo. She’s a horrible person
You roast the dude and then ask for his help...
Honestly, Genesis is the biggest clown of FF7 to me. He had a slam dunk opportunity to recruit arguably the most powerful person in the world at that point and used the opportunity to belittle him instead. It makes sense with his character completely, Genesis always felt inadequate compared to Sephiroth, so he couldn't resist holding the truth about his creation over him and rubbing in the painful truth, but pride always comes before the fall.
maybe genesis thought if he breaks sephiroth then there is higher chance that sephiroth would share his cells with him, after all that was all he ever cared about to stop his rotting
Yeah, Genesis is a pompous, narcissistic dirtbags who only cares about himself and that's why I hate him.
Genesis dream was to give Sephiroth one of his apples to taste from his family. It was probably already the degrading that caused him madness. Originally Genesis liked Sephiroth
Genesis coat is a part of his body. The way it changes color with his hair.
Well, Tyler Hoeklin definitely nailed it in this scene.
Nah he didn't
@@Killer_Kool7 Yah he did you petty b*tch. Are you always and forever going to constantly complain about Sephiroth’s voice lol!?
@@Killer_Kool7 Nah, he did.
@@AlexTheSoutherner nope
@@Killer_Kool7 Pretty sure he nailed it.
It still feels iffy that all this was at Nibelheim, but none of it was in FF7 (I just tell myself Cloud couldnt remember this stuff or was just in another room and just happened to miss everything.)
I mean, if you actually think about it, Cloud was in fact somewhere else at this time, so he couldn't have known about Genesis telling Sephiroth about his origins. And, possibly, the notion that Sephiroth thought himself a Cetra may have been an assumption on Cloud's part; a fact that's alluded to in the original FF7 when Sephiroth explicitly refers to Jenova as The Calamity from The Skies when he and Cloud meet each other again in Nibelheim.
@@LittleAl016 so much stuff in one para that means so absolutely nothing. Imagine someone who doesn't know FF reading this.
@@Kronos0999 I have played both Crisis Core and the original FF7. So...
@@LittleAl016 And you also have an anime pfp
@@Kronos0999 So?
I prefer the original voice dubs,they really nail the mood and their performance are chef kiss
That's why he keeps chasing cloud every time. He thinks they are the same. Cloud should live like him instead of being happy. Maybe he is a little jealous of cloud and doesn't want him to be happy.
3:09 Jenova is working her mind fuckery on Sephiroth!
1:32 4:08 Zack's all "Don't you forget about me!😢"
I know this conversation has been had constantly, but even with the voice acting in this game being hit and miss, I can’t help but love Tyler Hoechlin’s portrayal of Sephiroth. I adore George Newbern’s version, don’t get me wrong, but I think Hoechlin does a much better job of capturing that feeling of brokenness and the realization that everything Sephy thought he knew was a complete lie. I think my point can be emphasized with the “Traitor” voiceline during the boss fight. When Newbern says it, you can hear the coldness and the barely contained anger in his voice, but Hoechlin’s version sounds broken and unhinged, which I think better represents Sephiroth’s character. Keep in mind that this is entirely subjective, and while I enjoy Newbern’s portrayal, I think Hoechlin did a phenomenal job of capturing that emotion.
Okay. But Newbern did evil Sephiroth 100x better
"Share your cells with me" is pretty bad, as far as pick-up lines go
Genesis prolly one of the coldest ive seen in this series
You have extremely low standards I see.
Man, if I was there I would have told Genesis to basically blow it out his @$$ and told Sephi the REAL truth. (Who his actual mother is, ect)
God, Sephiroths hair is still so beautiful. 🥺💕
They should have used the old audio. The original sounded so much better.
genesis really tried to bring everything down with him. I wonder what they will do with him and Zack in the next ff7. idk what happened exactly but the remake told us that everything has been altered for some reason and I think we will have 2 different timelines, one with cloud and one with Zack.
2:24
Care to explain all the clones he makes in FF7?
I wonder how history would have changed, had Zack opened that coffin he found, and woke the sleeping guy inside up. Outside of Hojo, that sleeping guy inside is the only one who could tell Sephiroth about his real mother. Hojo knew what he was doing when he said Jenova. He completely erased Lucrecia from the conversation. Any mention of her was probably also purged from the Manor. Best get it from that sleeping boio in the coffin, then.
I don’t care what anybody says, Hoechlin in this scene and the scene where he snaps….he did an amazing job!
He sounds so creepy, eerie, and menacing.
He sounds too young, like a teenager
@@zealousrunner7 No he doesn’t.
Is this seriously all you do all day is go around every single video involving Sephiroth and complain with your multiple accounts….?
It’s been 3 years. Get over it lol
@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 my youngest brother sounds older than him haha and he's 14.
@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 Seems like it - this is the 6th video i've seen him writing comments like this on
I always liked Genesis, always will. People call him monster, he just started a rebellion against real monsters - those who put him in a tube and messed with his genes, and hunted him for it. This is one so realistic game and story
Nah, he's just a terrible character.
@@elizabethchint2391 You're not supposed to like Genesis, he's a villain. How does him being an unlikable jerk make him a "terrible character" when you're meant to dislike him?
@@elizabethchint2391 He is amazing character, and if you listen to the verses he repeats, you will see the whole picture. Three friends entered in battle, one was captured, one escaped, the last one became a hero. Genesis is the last man standing from the three friends. He never died, actually. So because Sephiroth is oh so hot, his crimes are forgiven, but Genesis is a jerk? You are pathetic!
Unlike Sephiroth, Mewtwo chose a different path; to lead those whose circumstances could not be helped, and guide them
The infamous I am your father bit from Star Wars where Luke Skywalker gets hit with the most profound and heavy truth that Vader is his father
The moment that drove og purists crazy
3:08 what is that flash that Sephiroth sees?
jenova's body
1:58 when your mom calls you by your full name (you're screwed):
There´s just no one like Genesis. Pure charisma.
Sephiroth and Angeal said hi
Don't you mean pure douchiness
I think more people in the fandom would like him if he were charismatic.
As a child it was hard to understand, you think of him as evil as a child does. As a man you understand, his core was destroyed and he went mad.
When you're younger, you hate the villains. But as you grow older, you understand them. Or is that how the saying goes?
He really thought he was a Centra just to find out he was just one of Hojo's freak experiments
Zack's new voice actor is hilarious.
I still don't like them shoehorning Genesis into the Nibelheim Incident
That's NOT Sephiroth's mother, but whatever Genesis.... Sephiroth needs to go to the hospital
Yeah his real mother is in a random ass cave behind a random ass waterfall lol
Guessing Hojo and Genesis are true villains now.
@@Lemuel928 duh they were always the real villains long before sephiroth became one
He needs to see his REAL father lying in a coffin. 😂
Still hyping up debunked headcanons. 🤣🤣
Sephiroth: *tearing up* Am I a human being? 😥😢
Mario: And cut! Great-a job, Seph. *sees Sephiroth crying* Hey. Are you-a okay, Sephiroth?
Sephiroth: *crying* I… I need to rest for 15 minutes. 😢😭
Mario: Ok. Somebody give him some-a tissues please.
Kirby: *hands over Sephiroth some tissues* Poyo! (Here!)
Sephiroth: *grabs a tissue and blows his nose* Thanks. 🤧😢
Bayonetta: *in her 3 costume* Oh boy. *proceeds to hug Sephiroth*
Sephiroth to me is the most tragic final boss in Final Fantasy History. He's a former war hero that was manipulated into becoming a harbinger of death by an alien parasite thanks to a fucked up experiment by Hojo. He was tricked into killing his actual friends and family all because Shinra fucked him over. He's not even the one that killed Aerith.
Literal example of cutting ties with a toxic friend.
I agree.
Omg sephiroth looks so beautiful and amazing
It's kind of weird to realize that sephiroth is just as broken as Cloud is, perhaps more.
That's how Cloud and Sephiroth contrast with each other besides the superficial differences like their hair and the shape of their swords.
He was much much more messed up. Cloud at least had a mother that loved him and girl that knew him personally.
I always thought it was so odd that they had cloud just randomly go outside to turn a valve
Now it makes sense
This scene sounds so much better with og voice actors
I'm kind of confused. I haven't played the games just like to read and follow the story, but didn't Sephiroth already know about all this from Shinra Manor?
This was before he researched deep
So if he heard this prior to nibelheim incident, why would he go mad there and kill everyone after locking himself in the mansion, maybe that's the timeline split,.Genesis.
Datsik brought me here.. 13 years ago.
"your genes cant be diffused" "share your cells with me" Well which one is it brother ??
Sephiroth just needed a good talk-no-jutsu from Naruto instead of Genesis.
True True
This all could have been avoided if Sephiroth was the one who gave Genesis the blood transfusion when he got injured.
Dude the old Seph voice was so much better, holy shit.
Call him a Monster...then ask for help lol
Genesis: Pokes at something Sephiroth is very sensitive about.
Also Genesis: And now you’ll save my life, yes?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 😢poor sephy
I wonder how are they going to insert this since in FF7:Rebirth they did not include this scene.
This scene solidified Genesis as a top 3 character in Crisis Core for me. Not that he wasn't already awesome but his approach here was just 10/10 on point
He was a dumbass here. He tells Sephiroth he’s a monster but asks for his help right after 😂
@@amuroray9115 What was he supposed to do? Lie to him and kiss his ass? "No problem bro you're 100% human, but uh...look I need your uhm human cells that uh aren't Jenova or nothing or well they are but uh Jenova isn't a monster she was human but yeah I need those cells to cure my degradation."
Jenova was literally in the tank behind them and only an idiot would try to lie in that scenario where all common sense says that Sephiroth will come to the truth very quickly as he did. Honesty is the best policy here, they're friends, or they're supposed to be and Genesis was right about everything he said. It's not his fault Sephiroth went mad. His sanity was already starting to crack.
How about just ask for help directly instead of ruining Sephiroth’s mind? Nobody asked a Genesis to talk about Jenova lol
@@amuroray9115 He was as direct as possible. How did Genesis ruin his mind? Sephiroth was already starting to lose it before Genesis even spoke a word. He cut the tank and saw the monster. Then he went in the basement and read all the records and lost his mind completely. Genesis had nothing to do with it
This is before Sephiroth went into the Shinra Manor basement and read all the records
Genesis should have kept his mouth shut about Jenova and just asked for help.
I would have laughed so hard if one of those static things happened in the Rebirth flashback and you got a few frames of Genesis.
Would have laughed, and then been very sad. Really happy Rebirth handled the flashback almost perfectly
Ok, now that Rebirth is out and this scene is played again without Genesis (just like in the OG game) makes me think that the devs understood that having Genesis here was fucking stupid and decided to scrap every trace of him during the Nibbleheim visit. Seriously, IDK how they thought including Genesis here would make this scene better.
What crazy is that Sephiroth originally wanted to offer his cells after wounding him... when the 2nd's & 3rd's were out. 😝
Did Sephiroth ever discover that Lucretia is his mother and not Jenova?
Nope, that's what hurts me the most.
If he knew he had another biological mom that still existed, and that she still cared for him, Sephiroth would've been a completely different person growing up.
But to be fair, it was all her fault to begin with. She had a guilty conscience over what happened to Vincent's Dad and couldn't 'cope', then she went and started a relationship with Hojo* thinking it was for the best (it was not for the best...) after Vincent discovered that Lucretia was part of the research team that was with his Dad looking for the Chaos materia, where he died, ended up screwing both Vincent's and Lucretia's futures permanently.
She was too hard-headed to be reasoned with. She couldn't accept that Vincent was ok with his Fathers' death.
Poor Sephiroth. I cried during this! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭I NEVER liked Genesis. Reunion was actually the first Final Fantasy VII video game I ever played. The Switch version was the most amazing Christmas gift ever! Right now I'm on Chapter 5 and the Genesis boss fight is so annoying. I have died way too many times than I can recall. The BOSS FIGHT with Genesis in Chapter 5: Where Are You? is ridiculous.
Everyone else's voices is well done except Zack' s....
Sephiroth's voice is also meh. He was way better in the original. Genesis and Angeal try to sound as close as possible to the original so their performance are solid.
@@georgehouliaras7239 I disagree. George's performance lacks any emotion except "menace". Tyler's actually makes me believe how much this revelation hurts Sephiroth and how much he can't stand Genesis for telling him this.
Tyler doesn't have any emotion at all. It's sad, I don't know what the English casting was thinking. Oh well.
@@writer_man5318 nah Tyler is shit as Sephiroth. You just don't like Sephiroth sounding like a grown ass man
@@writer_man5318 Tyler also makes Sephiroth sound like a whiny little bitch when he tells Genesis to rot. Vs how Newbern made Sephiroth sound angry while saying it.
I feel bad for Sephiroth, despite what he is