Budget TRU Prototype Amps? TRU Technology M1 and M4 Amp Dyno Test and Review [4K]
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
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Prototype TRU Technology amps M1 & M4
Two full videos in ONE!
Sorry, none remaining (limited prototypes, built in China for TRU, intended for shop in California, TRU didn't approve of quality so these were never sold to retail)
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Video Index:
0:00 Intro
0:54 Unboxing
2:26 M1 Features
3:27 M4 Features
4:24 Size Comparison
5:06 Specs
5:56 M1 Amp Dyno
10:41 M4 Amp Dyno
15:55 Do it Bump Doe?
17:56 What's Inside?
18:45 Conclusion
19:32 Extras
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Oh yea - it bump doe pretty dang good. :-) Very nice to see - hopefully these can be brought up to the standards Tru Technologies wants to achieve and can go into production at some point. :-)
Another awesome show big d...I've been playing around with car audio since the late 70's and your channel is awesome..thanks for what u do brother
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Very nice. Another great video, keep up the great work Big D.
Man, I'm hoping these manufacturers will soon come out with 0 gauge remote input. I hate trying to trim wires to squeeze all that power into the 8 gauge remote input! Lol
🤣🤣🤣
you should have no reason for a 1/0 remote wire
@@justinroxs33 it’s called sarcasm...
I don’t need 8ga remote wire either
@@justinroxs33 - man, you are slow
Big D at it again doing the great work for the people to let them know what is a gem and what is a bust greatly appreciated Big D keep up the good work and you really are appreciated for doing what you do
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for your hard work! I bought an audiocontrol Amp because of one of your videos... Was wondering what brand amplifier you have found the best overall?
Great upload D!! By the way, my Williston audio labs t shirt from t-springs is still in great shape after 40+ washes. One of my fav shop shirts for sure!!
Thanks brother 🙏
I saw M1 and M4 and thought you were finally testing DD. Huge disappointment, but I still watched. Lol.
That’s a solid amp! I have a m4 installed in my Miata 🤘
Big d i have a problem u might know how to help me my 2013 silverado 2500 the door chimes dont work the blinker door ajar noise and radio wont come on any help would be great no fuse is bad
Is there any good budget 4channel amp like Banda250.2 with low distortion rate? I've got jbc kw m960bw hooked with Morel Maximus 602 v2 for front stock for the rears and rockford P300-8p(preamped) in my civic. I was thinking of running a small amp as my battery might be not powerful enough to run normal size amp with preamped sub.
Hey Derick Old school man! I was wondering if you can please do a AMP dyno of those OEM premium amps such as one on my Lexus RX330. I think its rated at 132w rms and 250w max.. I was wondering if its worth keeping the amp or doing a whole system and amp upgrade!
I am so glad TRU did not move forward with these. At least some companies are staying true or should I say "TRU" ;) to their roots and maintaining high standards. Tru amps are a work of art. Even the tungsten series are extremely well built. I absolutely love that you can choose your capacitors, op amps, etc. I own a TRU 2 channel class A line driver and it is extremely well built. Nichicon and Panasonic capacitors. Amazing... These are a mockery of the TRU name. Cap top... Yuck!
i agree its like lamborghini making an affordable car.i own a tru technology hammer h1 ans owned a tru t03 150.4 and a steel series S44
really nice amps considering the size
can you try to get a dyno on a excursion hxa8k ? would love to see that. love your work !!
I'd love to see you add in an ultracap bank to your setup (if you don't already have one and i just missed it). I dropped in a d4s 500farad cap bank into my system recently and holy cow the voltage stability it amazing. I'm running a skar rp2000.d at 1ohm with stock wet cell battery and upgraded alt to a 220amp vs the stock 105 and of course 1/0 big 4 upgrade.. about at my limit till i add a 2nd battery. I had brief light dim/flicker till the alternator could catch up to the demand or during dynamic bursts . Now i have absolutely zero dimming at any volume. Even dramatically helped with my low voltage at low rpm issue. My voltage would drop into the 12s when coming to a stop and the cap bank is taking the load now. Incredible and would say 100% worth it. Waiting for my lifep04 cells and overdrive pulley ( to properly fix low voltage at idle issue) then will add a 2nd rp2000.d :) .. love the content, keep up the great work.
As Derick said, these were a small run that was never publicly offered. I cannot stress this enough, these amplifiers do not represent the standards of Tru, thus they were never sold. Also, the Tru amplifiers listed on Amazon are through woofersetc who is not authorized for Tru Technologies. Check Tru's website to see who is currently authorized to sell their products before making a purchase.
Thanks David. I did not realize WoofersETC was not authorized. I’ll update that info in the video description
I admire that the R&D team had the guts to put quality over making a quick buck and shut down this terrible plan. Tru Billet and Tungsten are masterpieces and you can really tell the people who design them have a true passion for music. Yes it's expensive to make amps in the USA with high end components but if you love music, you dont cut any corners. Tru is one of the ONLY companies that doesnt cut corners and I admire that!
bigdwiz pin davids comment
you can just call up Tru and order direct. they sell to anyone who's willing to buy. these might have actually had a lower failure rate than the Billet amps. LOL
I am relieved to hear that TRU did not go through with this ill conceived cheap shot, I may have overreacted in a prior comment. A Chinese made "TRU" amp, is just not a "TRU "amp.Over the top, extreme high quality, and AMERICAN MADE is what I thought TRU Technologies represents. I am glad you did not succumb to cheap Chinese labor, I hope you'll not be tempted again
Great video Big D! Any chance there are more of these somewhere?
I have a spare set. WillistonAudio (at) Gmail dot com if interested
That 4ch looks nice. I’m curious about the NVX MVPA6. If it makes rated power it might be nice for 3-way active setups.
Happy mother's day!!!
Keep up the good work
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Woooot Woooooot! Nice showing fo sho.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I thought my screen was dirty it was your table!😂😂😂
That M4 looks like it would have been an absolute unit if they went ahead with it, would be amazing to do a build with one of those in each door in 3 channel mode all hooking back to a central dsp.
Sigh one can dream
These amps are for sale now btw...
Great vid as usual. Can you check out the avatar amps. They are pretty affordable
Isn't Tru and treo the same y do I remeber true amps did they make old school stuff or were production having flash backs
Wil you do a dyno on the ppi traxx.....i cannot find one anywhere
Question: Why are the remote terminal connectors on most car audio amps designed it seems to use heavier-gauge cables? Many of them are nearly the size of the power terminal connectors. However, remote turn-on cables usually carry very little current...
Its easier to manufacture larger terminals. If it were truly small it would be harder to thread the hole and you'd have to stock an extra part (the threaded stud. Plus it would be hard to find a tiny enough allen wrench to tighten it.
Smashed 👍🏾
Hey sir! It's odd...but it is possible to remove, connect, and test factory "audiophile" amplifiers from vehicles. It would be interesting to grab stock amps and see what they are all about! Thank you bro, take care🤙
I like that 1 ohm dynamic run...
Any chance of getting a Rockville RVA-M2 or maybe the RVA-M3 on the dyno? I know, its Rockville, but us broke people gotta have a little bass too.
Great video Big D . Not very excited with these amps HAPPY MOTHERS DAY.
My next build is gonna be Tru Technology amps ...I do love zapco but I have always wanted to run Tru or sinfoni
TRU should make a subbrand (called Almost Tru) and sell these amps under that flag. Most manufacturers do that. Some people need decent setup for low price and the market is not saturated there yet. You cannot make fortune on Veyrons, but you can earn money on Volkswagen Passat sales and have premium brand for millionares.
They should keep trying I would definitely buy a few!
there are tons of Chinese amps, if that is your thing..
@@raymo6795 Yea sure some of them. China is good enough to have a space program, manufacture medical equipment, build the batteries that power just about anything we all use, Air Jordans, Dji drones, cars and alot more, but not capable enough to make your amp? China is actually a top leader in technology and projected to surpass USA in near future. Quality depends on what you are willing to pay lol.....lol
These are re-branded run off the mill chinese amps you can get them for way cheaper
@@Schnippen_Schnappen1 absolutely, these amps are nothing special. Remind me of some old JL audio or arc audios, but the novelty here is the brand and the situation not the performance.
@@Llegando_Tarde … wave the Chinese flag all you want, I will continue to wave the red white and blue. I would estimate 85% of all the amps are made in Asia, Mostly China, some Korea. The rest divided Europe, Brazil and the USA. There are only a handful of American ( some Mmats, Linear Power, D’Amore ( I think they introduced a cheap Chinese line..for shame)and TRU. There are many that are designed by Americans, and built to spec in China. (Rockford,Kicker and Audio Control to name a few) And they are fine, but as I said, a dime a dozen, and not “ special “ like TRU or Linear Power. This may sound hypocritical, but I buy German ( Helix amps DSP, Microprecission speakers). They integrate better in my German automobiles. It is because of all that you listed that I resist buying Chinese products when possible. I don’t want China to overtake the USA in any way….. and then there is this COVID thing they gave to the planet…. One more thing, I wouldn’t dream of buying MJ sneakers
Nice
Dig D any plans on reviewing any Alphard audio amplifiers??
Big homie I've been a music producer for 20+ years....would you be interested in getting a custom beat for your intros/test beats?
nah bro his beats are second to none
I seen a video where you dynoed the pioneer head unit. You should Dyno a Sony dsx-m80 marine head unit it is 400x4. And has a class d amp built into the head unit. 80w x 2 and it is bridgeable. Kind of a neat head unit. Have one on my Harley and love it.
can you try any Amp from AudioSystem "Germany" ?
So far its realy good amps..... for soundstream RN5.2000 please make a dyno test , thanks.
Can you test and review the Rockville dB12
Is the big 3 necessary for One supposedly 3k Watts amp & One 15” subwoofer ?
You need over 250 amps to provide that much power. You need big 3 plus a high output alternator. Maybe a second battery as well. The alternative is to run the amp at much lower power levels like a few hundred watts.
Did you at least play True by Spandau Ballet on the Tru M4 off camera?
why do I find it hard to write the next line....
I'm noticing more and more manufacturers aren't specifying if S/N ratio is at rated power or 1w/1m.
Can you review wolfram amps, they seem to priced VERY well for wattage, also Skar audio is growing alot in popularity
I wouldn't worry about Wolfram. Something shady going on there and they haven't been paying their bills for a couple few months now.
You going to slamology this year?
Would you sell the 4ch?
So we just saw some other companies amps get dyno'd? Not TTs amp? So how does this relate to them? What other amps does that manufacturer make?
Supposedly Tru designed the amps and had them built elsewhere.
Can you test a DD M1D?
Hey Big d what is a good 1/2 ohm stable on amplifier
Are you asking about 1/2 ohm resistive or 1/2 ohm reactive?
Can you do a amp Dyno on a nemesis amp
Hello what is the bass difference between ported and sealed?
Higher output and higher efficiency on well designed ported enclosure.
Big D can you please test some genius audio amps
Please do a ds18 gen x 6,000.1d theres literally no testing done on them
Wassup big d wiz....do u rebuild amps that are broken???
No, he sends them out to repair specialists.
These seem to be made in the same build house as some of the nemesis Audio amps. I have a Sony XM GS4 amplifier and Sony Mobile ES speakers in my car, and sound is so clean, crisp, vibrant, and natural. Class D amps can sound good but they will never have the natural vibrant sound that class AB amps produce.
Did we miss something what happened to the Savard's and Gaily box?
That's what I want to know.
As soon as I seen the Kappa Perfect. I had questions.
The only things wrong with the m4 is the manual and the printing on the amp. Seems like an awesome unit.
imho even if this amplifier doesn't represent the actual standard of TRU, they still completely overprice their amplifiers. It's 2021, fully clean 1000w rms at 1ohm is entirely possible at $200-$300. the only thing i see this amplifier capitalizing on is efficiency, and even then 4ohm and 2ohm efficiency standards are rewriting themselves as we speak.
Its priced to reflect the companies costs. Thats all.
Running these amps in my Legend. Still sounds great despite what the dyno says.
Awesome 👏
Do you ever dyno any Digital Designs amps?
Not yet
That 4 channel though!
she a beast!
I've noticed amps made with the "fin vent" style backplate covers are the same as cheaper amps like the new autotec and all other flea market brands I think it maxxsonics that fabricates those amps or not not Shure but I've noticed a lot of money robbing amps have the same style vent fins on the back cover
It is a common stamping die and is used by most companies. It means nothing.
Is it True Doe or Too good to be Tru? It depends on the observer.
14.4V TALK IN DA HEEEEEEZYYYYYYY
Why didn't they start selling these the amps actually played great as budgets amp
Those little stickers on the back of amps are not legal. A manufacturer can not void your warranty for removing those stickers. This is because of the The MAGNUSON-MOSS Warranty Act. Technically the AG could take action against them for putting those stickers there they just don’t and unfortunately the consumers are the ones who suffer accepting refusals over a silly sticker that could come off for many different reasons lol!
i dont get it.......why dont they just lower the ratings if the amps dont make it? dont they test them as a prototype before marketing/rating them? seems like an easy fix.....my love for and willingness to pay for fosgate is that they over produce the ratings...test the proto and under rate, pretty simple
but i guess until you came around dynoing everything, no one was the wiser......you are doing a great service👍👍
Thanks, yea it appears these didn’t meet the standards TRU TECH is accustomed to so they decided to not move forward with public release of these
Do you actually live in Williston North Dakota Derek
No sir
Nakamichi NKTD 1000.1 incelermisin lütfen
Say it again, but so the rest of the class will understand
quite similar to the Audiopipe AP Micro amps
terminals and bass knob are the giveaways
Was that shake that booty baby by DJ Magic Mike?
Do more PA power amplifier dynos!!!! There are these cheapo amplifiers being sold on alibaba that are apparently pretty legit, tall caps and giant toroidal transformers. Would like to see how that would go. The images make the crown xli class ab amps look like toys and these ones are cheaper!!!! Is it a scam?
Did you make this video just to make us jealous BigD? Well mission accomplished
Jealous of what lol?
@@kriptic22 Well its a limited run of tru technology, so if you collect amps this is rare. Sorry you dont get it and thats fine you probably have other hobbies and Boss audio maybe does just fine for you Lol
D if you want a real TRU amp to test let me know. You get to try something different and I get to see what amp can do. 👍
Awesome 👏
@@wal How can I talk to you to find out how to send you one of my amps?
looks well made glue and heatsiks
Willy you need realy do a dyno on the conzus line amps Allen dant,s used to set world record see if they realy are what they say to be down to 10 volts still no thd. Clipping and still making power I orderd one a 5k conzus but the 15ks and 15 of them is the loudest recourded spl vehicle on earth at 184 dbs and it's rumors to be able to achive 188 dbs if need be to continue to hold it wow be nice see what the SMD saise and with budget friendly prices to boot $479 5 ks and a tone of protective goodies inside what u big domy do this amp before next dummy does it
These amps made by Master P?
Yeah I can see why Tru decided to not sell these as a entry level amp. The brand would have been diminished, especially by that M1. Anyone who knows Tru Technology amps would know these aren't anywhere close to the level of quality and performance you get from the real thing.
Nice generic amps but, I'll keep saving my pennies for the real deal.
no way for us to get our hands on these ? how many were made ?
Chinese amps are not hard to find, all to easy , I'm afraid. TRU amps are made in America
@@raymo6795 no, I understand that. but big D seems to like these amps here and I just figured they'd be an interesting (rare) piece to add to the collection.
He said about a dozen were made.
Looks like Clean D
Look like the rubicon series amp
could have run the 4 channel bridged 2ohm.
He did. It did over 350w x 2
Looks like D'Amore but Tony's amps easily exceeds their rated specs by allot
The guts or the outside? The guts are completely different.
Big d with the porno music 🎶 lol
Audiopipe sells these amps as their Micro series
I thought they looked familiar 😲
How can you verify? It is dangerous to make assumptions.
I think all amps should come with attachable name plate
I owned 1 TRU amp years back and ants got into it so when I cranked the radio on it went pooooooffff.
I was hoping to see this amp fail after seeing the price.. You most literally can buy true 3000w+ amps for less then $500, even upgrading everything due to less efficiency is cheaper then Tru.. Truly overpriced
Its not actually over priced. It is priced based on the total costs. Some companies spend more money to bring an amp to market than other companies.
Do it bump though? Lol, this question should be answered each video.
Like and comment while the ad plays then watch the video
I so easily forget about the ads since I pay for the RUclips premium and never see them. That’s a great idea though!
@@wal Yeah I got rid of it on my phone because most of the channels I watch are smaller and it felt like they wouldn't get the ad revenue. I have multiple accounts and only use the premium on the TV's and for the kids. Maybe my logic is flawed but I feel like the creator gets more if I watch the ads.
Dude, it’s barely drawing amperage, and the efficiency????? Give me some.
4 channel is dam nice
👌😬👍
I have a 1000 watt 2 channel amplifier I'd like to send you. It would be great if you could make a video destroying it. I have it bridged to 1ohm mono, and it is not happy. However it refuses to die. Maybe you could send it to its death
Looks like the new D'amore amps
I thought so as well
I don't see the connection from the layout to any D'Amore amplifier. What is interesting, look up Ground Zero GZHA line which has been out for 3+ years and compare it to Tony's D'Amore amplifiers....hmmm lol. The D'Amore appear to use the same board with modifications and basic crossovers instead of being bandpass capable.
Seems like the 4ch is very worth it
It’s a mini beast!
You must have Hugh hands. That amp was giant till you got a hold of it
16:15 what song??? That is FONKYYYYY
It’s called “Beardie’s in Paradise”
@@wal he got a theme song now too???
They should go to a manufacturer in Germany I have a German amp and only cost me 400 euros it's about $500 made in Germany I wouldn't definitely not spend that much money for that type of amp cuz to me this hobby is just well it's a hobby it's not essential I don't need it so I try to find products that are made and manufactured in the same spot where the designed like I have a few Italian amps in my Volkswagen made in Italy not that expensive to mass market stuff I have a few good Korean amps
Same as audio pipe and nemesis na
Same or do you mean similar?
Same but less money and great performance on the nemesis one's
@@hugosandvl8173 I see similarities, but I can't find interior shots of those 2 brands. Since it is possible TRU's version could have unique mods done to the boards I can't say they are the same. I can only say they are similar.