THE BATMAN IS THE BEST BATMAN
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Robert Pattinson is one of the greatest actors to put on the cape and cowl.
Here's why he is the best Batman on the big screen!
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The sound that the suit makes when he’s walking reminds me of cowboy spurs in western films. Really gave him a presence in every scene.
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Best armor for sure. Seemed properly heavy but done with realistic plate-joins. The movies have really evolved with the tech...
the audio is incredible in the film
Hell yea.. and I love how he was actually menacing… when he walked out the shadows at the train station I almost picked up like a Michael Myers vibe.. then when he was racing to falcone so catwoman wouldn’t kill him dealing with all of the armed men gave me a chill up my spine the same way darth Vader did… THAT IS BATMAN
But this will be so counter productive for stealth
If I made a sequel to this, the main villain would be Hugo Strange, who would be patterned like a 4Chan sleuth; who discovers who the bat is behind the mask.
This would force Bruce to be more outgoing in his civilian identity, in order to throw others off his scent. Kinda like how his experiences with Riddler forced him to be more a symbol of hope rather than terror.
Pattinson's transition from being the most mocked actor ever to being in great films like Good Time, The Rover and the Lighthouse and in my opinion the best live action batman ever is probably the greatest actor comeback of all time. It puts Mickey Rourke, John Travolta and RDJ to shame. I never wouldve thought he would become my second favorite actor working today, next to Keanu Reeves
Like did we learn nothing from the Tim Burton movies and how everyone was like "Michael Keaton? He can't do Batman he's the funny guy"
@@wwalton Same thing with Ben Affleck even though he had already given strong performances in the Town, Argo and hollywoodland
Rdj was on heroin destroying his life before he made a comeback but pattinson who got type casted as a gay vampire puts his to shame ? lmfao oh yeah he overcome such hurdles 🤣 what a delusional moron you are lmao.
@@Rayliotta7631 people lack critical thinking skills. They only talk on their bias. Youre brain dead dude you understand that yeah? You let your opinions change fact so they suit your opinion. Youre a dangerous kind of idiot. Go and read some books you mad fuck up.
@@Tyler-pi1qm I was speaking in terms of movies. RDJ was always seen as a talented actor despite his very serious personal issues. Pattinson was not. I especially at one point thought he was a terrible actor. I wasn't trying to knock RDJ down or anything. I've always had the upmost respect for him and how he overcame his addiction. It was just an exaggerated statement. I don't think Robert Pattinson deserves to be rewarded more than RDJ or anything like that. I was just trying to express how cool it is that he managed to bounce back in terms of quality
Awesome Video. Best Batman Ever
They need to totally do more with this Batman.
having ben shapiro’s face blurred with his name in the background made me die laughing
Been waiting for this one since you it was hyped up a few months back! Great commentary as always.
Not since Manhunter have I seen such a troubled detective.
The Batman is like the missing chapters of Batman Begins. The Dark Knight Trilogy was great and let WB know we want a dark serious Batman and The Batman is what they gave us. It can only go up from here (If they dont include it into the new JL)
I can´t personally choose between the different Batman movies. The original Tim Burton´s are legendary and still hold up to this day, Nolan´s Batmans are also masterful, but to say that this Batman is not an outright masterpiece right up there with its predecessors would be unfair. This is what the cinema needs more.
Watching this video just makes me appreciate watching the batman movie. I watched it twice in a row first time sitting.
*The suit:*
- The fact that they make the cape look like a trenchcoat works perfectly for _The Dark Knight Detective_.
- However, it doesn't look like that suit could fit in that backpack he carries.
*The writing:* Muah! He starts with _I am vengeance_ and he grows to _Vengeance is not enough._ Protagonist development at the end of a super-hero film? Can we ask for more?
*The actor:* That he feels too young for us older milennials is more a reflection on us. (I bet we think cops are getting too young now too.) I believed the performance completely. It didn't sound like teenage DiCaprio grappling with Shakespeare. (Which Bale and Affleck definitely did.)
*The cave:* I understand why they have to do the tower. What, with the current traffic problems in NY. But for me, the manor's got to be on Long Island.
*The signal:* Will you guys stop trying to project it on the sky already?! That's impossible. If you want realism, project it on the side of the Empire State Building. That works fine. (BTW, yes I understand that Gotham city is not literally New York or Chicago. But in another, deeper way, it is exactly New York and Chicago.)
*Bruce:*
- The only actor ever to give a fully realized Bruce is Keaton. And with him, what drives Bruce to be Batman is not fully explained. (Although, I would argue, it was not unperformed.)
- The truth of the character is that there just isn't that much Bruce left. Especially in the early days. But intelligent people get less certain of things as they age. If Bruce is portrayed as intelligent, then he'll start to reassert himself as the character becomes less driven by what he wants to end, and more by what he wants to leave behind. (Even in Frank Miller's wonderful tale. Which so many of us were dismayed to discover was a young buck's Ayn Rand fantasy.)
Bruh Superman was never Hope like people say he is. That was a Snyder thing. Superman is doing what's right. Batman has a no killing rule because he also believes in second chances. Superman kills just as much as the average person. How many people have you killed in a pub fight or office disagreement? Superman doesn't kill cuz it's easy for him, what is hard is restraint and doing what's right. Batman is do what you can. He is never give up. All heroes in DC are Hope, that's what makes a DC hero. Humanity being a strength. In Marvel humanity is what causes issues not solves em
I've always said this movie could have been called "Bruce Wayne Begins".
My take on "Bruce" not being a character in the film is the fact that Batman is only in year 2 (iirc), he hasn't had to be Bruce Wayne yet. Hasn't had a need to add the Character of Bruce Wayne to his arsenal.
I think somewhere down the line that will change.
I’m vengeance!
Best video man keeps em coming
I say this is the best Batman film I've seen. And I'll be honest I'm not a fan of Riddler character I mean I still like it but I'm very attached to his comic personality and Jim Carrey Riddler in other words I like the comic Riddler than movie Riddler
This is the most comic accurate batman to date, and if you don't like that, you don't like batman.
I like Kevin Conroy Batman TAS Batman and that is the most Batman that has ever Batmaned
Nah that's where u r wrong watch Tim Burton's take...BATMAN and BATMAN RETURNS. Those movies are the most comic-accurate depictions of BATMAN in live action ever!
The personality is done wrong
Lol stfu with the No True Scottsman trope. People are allowed to enjoy whatever version they like.
Sounds like you are trolling.
I'm vengeance!!
the only things wrong with it were it wasnt really bruce wayne...but i can see where he becomes more bruce wayne in the future...and i wish this was the first of the dcu because its almost perfection
The Batman is overrated film,boring,way too long borrows stuff from the long Halloween, Batman Forever and the Dark Knight. Depressing as hell the movie.
Both The Dark Knight and The Batman pull from The Long Halloween. That’s why. That is the main reason for their similarities, though The Dark Knight’s biggest difference is it pulls the Harvey Dent/Two Face arc from the source as well. Batman Forever is an interesting assumption. Not sure where you got that other than the inclusion of Riddler, but he’s portrayed quite different in The Batman than he is in Forever.
I think the argument can be made that modern Batman films should pull from more obscure sources and not ride the coattails of the popular stories like The Long Halloween and Frank Miller’s works so much. I’ve always been a sucker for films that can take lesser material and adapt it into something potentially great.
@@StopCallingMeShirley1180 what I mean by Batman Forever Riddler being in love with Batman since the Riddler in the Batman also has a creepy love for Bruce Wayne and Batman.
You’re a clown
Definitely one of my favorite movies
Still wish they went with the white eyes. That sheeit would look so amazing. I reallllllllllly like the BvS suit also. I'm hopeful of an eventual mix of the two.
The title alone is FACTS
This bat suit reminds me of the second telltale games batsuit.. kinda like a prototype
this movie would make a perfect batman arkham origins DLC
Seriously tho Robert Pattinson beat every single Batman movie to me the moment it came out. I just didn’t expect it to be so good but I’m so glad it was.
Some people completely forget that he’s only been Batman for like a few years that’s why he’s acting the way he is. I just see that a lot in the complaints
Agree on all points. I have a lot of love for the various manners Batman can be interpreted on film. This one personally hits every mark for me. Feels more like a comic come to life.
I don’t care about the “but it didn’t stick to the comics!” thing. There are 700,000 continuities in the comics. Shush.
Honestly my only dislike in this was how Bruce treated Alfred, particularly after the bomb. I get his inner struggle and all the selfish brooding that is early Batman- but Alfred has always been the exception to that behavior from Bruce. And I genuinely think the film missed giving Bruce a touch more heart by having him show true love for Alfred and a bit more depth between them.
For all the misses of Gotham, they captured the relationship of a young Bruce and uncertain Alfred better than this film. Something I hope they work on fixing in the sequel
What I disliked the most about THE BATMAN is that the "F-word" was used in it. They should try to make Batman more family-friendly. One of his creators got his start drawing humorous comic strips.
No way
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The ending monologue to this movie takes inspiration from Batman: Ego, where he makes clear that inspiring hope is among his goals, yet I’ve seen far too many supposed Batman fans attack this movie for making that a part of his arc. “BaTmAn Is VeNgEaNcE! SuPeRmAn Is HoPe!”
That’s kinda dumb given that dark knight rises and the Nolan trilogy in general had a whole bunch of inspiring hope into the people of Gotham
Superman's idea of hope is way different than Batman's so I agree with you completely
In my opinion, Batman is better at inspiring hope than Superman.
@@ArsxnIV Yeah I don’t know about that, go read Tom King’s Up in the Sky, or Grant Morrison’s All Star Superman.
@@ArsxnIV Eh, I disagree
More people need to talk about this movie's depiction of Gotham City itself cause HOLY HELL. I've never felt more on edge when we explore Gotham City's streets than in this movie. Wayne's estate really feels like the only safe haven in an otherwise crime-ridden place.
Makes you wonder why more people haven't moved away from Gotham.
@@Dunebat poverty, maybe. Suspension of disbelief my friend.
@@ItsOfficiaI I've no problem suspending my disbelief. I've had the same problem preventing me from moving away from my hometown for years now.
It’s like Chicago, NYC, and SF all rolled into one.
@Dunebat if any person could easily just uproot themselves and travel to any town/city of their choice then they would. Be it prolonged poverty, or cost of living in other nearby cities being higher, having a job/skills in am industry that isn't universal to every city so you may live there because it happens to be the only place where your industry is, etc.
Oh, and family. Not everyone is willing or can leave family behind or concince all of them to relocate in the same area with you.
Well so far this is the only Batman movie that gave us a actual detective story
The dark knight trilogy had bats WAY too dependent on technology.. I agree
Live action one. Mask of the Phantasm, Sub-Zero, The Long Halloween, etc. did.
Pretty thin detective story 🤡
@@s-wo8781 I mean live action movie
@@rebelbear816 at least it is one "🤡" headass
This was a Batman movie with....Batman. Batman was in more of the movie than he wasn't by a substantial amount. In so many Batman films, Batman is featured in sometimes as little as a quarter of the run time.
Yeah and that makes more sense. Half way through the film you truly start to feel that this is just an idiot running around in a suit. Just join the cops, he could be replaced by a regular detective in this film and it would make absolutely no difference to the story. Awful film.
Hated this version but dark knight rises was a great example hardly any Batman
@@Tyler-pi1qm Then the entire concept of batman from the comics would be bad. You shouldnt have a say in anything comic or hero related after that catastrophy of an intent to argue that its a trash movie. Awful argument, awful perception and awful taste in a hero movie. If you dont mind please dont ever chase a career in cinema. You might possibly be able to create the most awful movie with that kind of judgement.
@@deykno87 read a comic
It felt like Catwoman with cameo by Batman.
It’s dumb that people were upset that a movie called “The Batman” was made up of 98% Batman and 2% Bruce Wayne
You can never satisfy everyone….
That part was great
The scene at the closing with the woman being lifted off by helicopter, is one of my favorite scenes in the movie. Where he realizes he can be more than a fist, but a symbol for hope.
Exactly that scene and the Ben's Bruce running into smoke and saving a girl then hugging her after she points that her mom died were my top favorite Batman scenes because that's what batman's main goal is ...to be an inspiration for hope
True and its sad that how many people didn't understand that
That's why I keep thinking his batman logo and eyes color should be red, it will be scary but cool looking, yes I know batman classic colors are normally blue, gray, sliver, black, white and yellow, but in this universe he give out hope with a red flare
I liked the Batsuit. Looked a little less rubbery than others. Though wish more would have his cape fall in front of himself when walking around, covering his body and making him look more like a shadowy silhouette, they you get the armor suit when he puts his dukes up. Make him look more mysterious or even ghostly during the non action scenes
That’s all I want for the Batman’s suit now
I cant get past the cowl. The mouth was just too big and he didn't look menacing enough.
the cape coming in front of him looks dumb in my opinion
@@guardian2-735and no one agreed. L take
@@guardian2-735I think as long as they make it look like it does in BTAS it can't look bad
I want Hugo Strange to be this Batman's next antagonist. His whole schtick is challenging Batman psychologically
The Ventriloquist!!!
He can be a physical threat considering he trains to be batman and created the monster men
@@lordskeletor4558 - Sure, but he doesn't even need to be a physical threat to be a great villain. BD Wong was such a fantastic Hugo Strange in the show *Gotham* , and he was a total lightweight (and most of his "monster men" deserted him in favor of Fish Mooney; Mr Freeze, Lady Firefly, and Azrael were the only ones loyal to him, and the later was the only one who didn't turn on him at the first sign of trouble).
I'm not even sure of who I want as the Big Bad in the next movie...
Victor Fries would be fine, since the last time he had a really solid arc was in the *Gotham* 2-parter _"Mr Freeze" & "A Dead Man Feels No Cold"_ from 2016.
I just hope that we see a few obscure Bat-rogues getting small roles here and there, like instead of a random face-painting gang at the beginning, it could have been the False Face Society, recruiting soldiers for Black Mask.
Or that instead of the twins from "Desperate Housewives" guarding the iceberg lounge, have them be Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
(the show *Gotham* showed that they could be a threat, when Mad Hatter "recruits" the Terrible Tweeds to do his bidding, and the guys destroy the GCPD )
I think Hugo could be a pretty good villain. Considering, how Gotham is on Martial Law and the National Guard is arriving. Matt Reeves could make Hugo the general, or head of the National Guard. Most likely though, we will be seeing a grounded ver of Mr Freeze. Matt always talked in interviews how he wanted to make a grounded Mr Freeze. So, Freeze is the most likely candidate
@@Moofshire - At the risk of repeating myself, I really hope that they take some cues from *Gotham* 's first 2 Victor & Nora Fries episodes.
You could feel his desperation, his motivation, the fact that he only targeted mobsters to experiment on until he snapped when that rude drugstore owner told him to F- off
(I understand the drugstore asshole's POV, no valid script = no pills, but some diplomacy goes a long way;
Victor Fries had been picking up the same meds for his wife at the same place for years, he's obviously not some drug addict trying to scam him; just give him a few days worth of treatment while he straighten things out with his doc, it was obviously mistake)
Damn, I went on quite the rant here, didn't I...
All of this to say that if *TAS: Heart of Ice* made me feel for Victor post-accident, *Gotham* made me feel for him pre-accident, and I have to say, pre-accident he had the coolest suit of armor
Looked like a stormtrooper throwing ice grenades and using a badass ice-gun.
Mr Freeze would later be provided a new armored suit by Hugo Strange that allows him to remain ice cold all the time, but I didn't like it as much... still better than Arny's cosplay >
I love this Batman movie for so many reasons!
The opening 10 minutes were great. The narration, setting up our mysterious villain with his first crime, and showing the psychological effect Batman is having on the criminals of Gotham was exactly what I've always wanted in a Batman movie.
There have been some great Selena Kyle's in Batman on TV and in movies, but this is the first one that was interesting as a character. The 1960s Catwomen were all charismatic and a joy to watch, but didn't have any character development. Michelle Pfeiffer was great as a Tim Burton character, and sexy as heck, but she didn't really portray the character that we know from the comics. Even the cartoon depictions of the character were good, but we didn't see enough of them. This is a Selena Kyle that we got to know as a person, and it was a pretty faithful interpretation.
While I expect Bruce's fighting style to improve in future movies, I do like that it's a bit sloppy and we see him take hits. Even the greatest fighter in the world is going to get slugged a few times. When somebody trains the fight, like as a boxer for example, one thing they have to train is how to fight somebody who isn't trained. A boxer will train for months before his first fight, sparring with people who are also trained how the box, but can find themselves at a real disadvantage (or at least take too many hits) the first time they step in the ring with somebody who doesn't belong there, who just windmills and acts erratic. In real life, fighting is sloppy and hectic. Think of the great fighting choreography from Daredevil, where our hero got tired, messed up moves, and misjudged his opponents.
Everything about this movie, the characters, the tech, the fighting styles, they all set up great baselines that can be improved on as the film's progress. And that makes it a great start to a Batman franchise
I'm so glad that this Batman can actually fight properly and not fight like an idiot like the Bale Batman.
@@rascoehunter3608 This Batman fought like an idiot too
@@matthewandrews3883 not really. Bale Batman fought so weird with elbows up all the time.
@@rascoehunter3608 well, this actually too. plus this edgy rorschach style narration, really? it's been mocked and parodied to death already , how can you take it seriously?
@@andreyzhuchkov1882 it didn't bother me. That is very subjective.
This is the first Live Action Batman film to actually be about Batman.
@@BMoneyYTB that whole trilogy is just Bruce Wayne
I honestly see the fall of Batman at the ending when he fell into the water as a baptism, the end of Vengeance and the birth of Hope. He becomes a “Symbol of Hope.” He is learning.
What I truly loved about this, and what people hate on the film for, is that this Batman is not perfect. He’s still learning. I think his arc is going to be about learning to be both Batman AND Bruce Wayne. Learning he can help as the billionaire to save Gotham.
Because that’s exactly what it was
@@tyseal9415 but there wasn’t a progress of Bruce Wayne just batman
@@deadinsidememes862 kinda my point. I specifically said “his arc WILL BE learning to balance Batman and Bruce” not that he had progressed as Bruce yet. We already got teased for this eventual arc in the first film
Wow I didn't think of that. I love that idea of the baptism. I bet that was intentional on the parts of Reeves and the other writer.
Despite how sick I am of seeing joker in batman movies, I’m really interested in how this batman will deal with the joker
Could wait till movie 3 or 4 before the joker
@@jocking0 yeah that’s true, I’d be happy with in the background till then
@Kingdom House personally I think he works best on his own but after the 2nd Joker that could be different since Harley will be involved
@kingdomhouse3318 it isn't,
@@jocking0it's a 3 long movie line
Ahhhh, this is why I am happy you didn't leave us. You're able to verbalize the ways I feel about these properties in ways that sometimes elude me. The Batman is definitely one of my favorite movies and depictions. This version's inability to be Bruce is very interesting, he never crafted his mask. He simply stayed The Bat. I would have liked to see more of Andy Serkis since he is such a brilliant actor. Pattinson did way better than I thought he would. Thanks for sticking around Infuso, ewetoob really wouldn't be the same without you.
VeeGeneration X and proud!!!
I think this is why Robert Pattinson was so attracted to the role in the first place: it's not the typical Batman origin story we're used to seeing and points out the darker aspects of being a vigilante rather than glorifying the job. Just looking at Pattinson's career post-Twilight, he's played characters that are extremely dark and twisted while also being morally conflicted and outright deviant, so him being attracted to this version of Batman isn't shocking at all. Also, I couldn't agree with you more with this being my favorite version of Batman as he is a truly broken man who fails to see the damage he's doing while trying to do some good, and the opening scene contrasted with the closing scene is what makes this film the best in my opinion. His entire view from the beginning voiceover changes by the end and he goes from seeing fear as a tool to now knowing he has to be a symbol of hope in order to make real change in Gotham.
A lot of y'all are forgetting in this movie, although yes this interpretation appears to be far more affected by his parents' death compared to others, HE HAS YET TO CREATE THE MASK THAT IS BRUCE WAYNE. Instead, there is only the pain which Batman lives in. In this movie, Gotham's prince is a sorrowful being outside and in because he doesn't know how to build a body around the chassis that is Batman.
I feel like people often forget this is year 1-2 for him and that when Batman first started fighting crime he was not only fighting for justice but fighting to instill fear in criminals. At the end of the movie he realised he can still strike fear in criminals but also give a sense of hope to the people. For most of this movie he hasn't realised he can do both and that is why I think this is the best live action depiction of Batman AND this era of Bruce.
In my opinion it’s the best live action Batman movie. My only small gripe would be that I wanted to see Bruce Wayne start being a public figure at the very end when we hear him giving his monologue of hope. But as you mentioned in the video, the end doesn’t feel like an end but a beginning to something greater. I’m certain we will see Bruce Wayne more in the sequel. Great video Vee!!
same here , i watched the dark knight trilogy ,and it is really good , Bale is really good . but it didn't feel as good as this one
yeah i'm looking forward to how batman puts up the billionaire playboy figure of bruce wayne . cause he's gotta maintain that income somehow
and of course , since alfred got hit in this movie , it's a good reason to see batman upgrade his tech.
The exploration of him as mentally unwell is a nice breath of fresh air after the righteousness of the 'Dark Batman' set, where he never met or made any truly 'bad' decisions, just mistakes, and came across as a superman... even with the Bain plot.
Or maybe its the clunky politics that had grated on me.
I hope in the 2nd movie, we get to see some of his Bruce Wayne side and by the 3rd he's full Bruce Wayne.
@@christophergreen6595 It's the clunky politics.
@@icantthinkofausername2844 definitely not.
He will always be Batman.
I went into this movie expecting the worst. My mom went in with me expecting to be bored out of her mind. We both left the theatre feeling like the whole thing was absolutely worth it. My mom isn’t too crazy about superhero movies, but she loved The Batman because of the mystery element. I said it was like a typical Batman comic put to screen. It was awesome. It felt like a proper Batman movie. Batman fights and sleuths. Because he trained himself to do both. Batman isn’t just a ninja in an animal costume, he’s a brilliant detective and a surprisingly kind and encouraging person, who wants the best for those close to him and the society he lives in. I hope the upcoming sequels deliver on the same level as this movie.
I love how Alfred's fear for Bruce being Batman now goes much deeper than just being worried for his safety
he's straight worried about his mental health. He sees Batman as a disease on Bruce, while Bruce sees it as his true persona.
Batman really is his "it's not a phase"
And you like that? Wow.
@@baronsengir187 What's wrong with liking that?
@@floyd2386 Nothing wrong with anyone liking anything. But oh dear is that not batman anymore. By that point you could simply call him something else.
@@baronsengir187 what isn't batman? Alfred worrying about Bruce's mental health? Batman being a curse on Bruce Wayne?
@@sheadoherty7434 Yes, to that degree and definately yes. It is so not his origin story it isn't even funny. All the hard work and training and world trotting and degrees he got before he even started beeing batman is reduced to this. It is a shame really. This Movie is like Batman without the necessary work to be Batman. Not a tool but a defiant reaction in a way. As if he is not the master and architect of his journey
This video perfectly analyzes Batman’s character in the movie. Most of the people that have said that The Batman is mid or just bad are complete idiots and what I love about this take is that he feels more human and more relatable. For me especially. I’m under the Autism Spectrum and this Batman reminds me of myself. Silent, socially awkward, lonely, doesn’t do well romantically, obsessive, anxious, depressed, prone to anger, the list goes on
Lol another moron that says he is on the spectrum and needs every movie character to act like him or he wont like it. Nobody cares
it did exactly what was missing from batman films. hopefully the sequels even better
Hopefully, there ARE sequels.
@Dunebat I think gunn said he wants to keep this batman, but as a separate universe. There's rumors that the batmam 2 will be out, and it will be with Mr freeze.
@@round105 WB actually confirmed the sequel a few months back.
@@rascoehunter3608 no they didnt.
Why would anyone sequels to this absolute drawn out dribble. The films the most boring load of nonsense. The detective aspect was done so poorly but youre all just like "hes actually a detective" lol no hes not.
I want a superman movie just like this. A character study, a passion project....
Oh... so you want "Man of Steel"?
Funny how so many people (not necessarily you, but many) hate that film... yet it's exactly what so many Supes fans are clamoring for.
We might get a "real" Superman story, considering how James Gunn is a huge comic nerd
@@thisisnotachannel No. A character study of Superman would NOT yield Man of Steel. Batman is a dark, contemplative, and, frankly, edgy character (outside of the Silver Age, that is), so a character study of him is going to be dark, contemplative, and edgy. However, Superman, by contrast, is approachable, hopeful, and humble. A character study of Superman wouldn't be dark, but Man of Steel was very dark. A character study of Superman should leave its audience feeling hopeful throughout. His very presence should inspire awe, not fear. Snyder's Superman is a terrifying presence, someone that people like Luthor, Wayne, and the public are right to fear.
@@thisisnotachannel man of steel is far from a superman character study. It looks like a superman movie but it doesn't capture Clark Kent. It's typical of Zack Snyder though.
@@KnightsRealm98 you beat me to it here, thanks
Off topic…I would absolutely love to see a version of The Batman Who Laughs from Battinson sometime. I think the tone fits for it and Pattinson (knowing how good of an actor he is) definitely fits for it. And for those who read that comic, I know it will kinda break the grounded version of this Batman, but it can also be done in a grounded way. Maybe there’s a drug or infection he got that makes him laugh, and he has to do detective work while fighting off the drug or infection. I know. Stupid idea there, but you get the gist. Idk tbh, but the literal idea of The Batman Who Laughs would be cool to explore later in some way.
Actually the drug/infection based laughter was in an episode of The Batman that I just watched recently and I liked the concept but being a ~20 minute episode it didn't really get time to flesh it out. Seeing that same type of thing in a movie could be very interesting and either great or terrible depending on how it's done. Also would be a good way to pull off a live action Batman Who Laughs without having to do a whole separate thing that's disjointed from Benny and Rob over here.
They’d probably make this happen through a trilogy, knowing that Batman Who Laughs is always behind the shadows pulling the strings through an unbeknownst multiverse. It’d be great but difficult, considering Marvel died after multiverse intro.
As much as i love Bale's Batman, i think he was amazing despite Nolan's script, not because of it.
Nolan's Trilogy take on Batman's World would be perfect, if not for one Big Mistake.
Batman himself.
Anyone who reads Comics knows that Batman is obsessed with the mantle, he has a need for being Batman, a pathological need.
He would never stop being Batman, no matter how challenging the circumstances were.
Batman Ego :
When he wants to stop being Batman, his mind wouldn't let him.
Batman Mask of The Phantasm :
Bruce gives up happiness to be Batman for the rest of his life.
Batman Beyond :
Bruce is more than 60 years old, still being Batman as long his body can take it, sometimes going further than that.
The Dark Knight Returns :
Bruce stops being Batman for 10 years, because the government forced him to ( Jason's Death as well )
But Batman couldn't be kept locked anymore, because of that, when he came back, he was more ruthless than ever before.
Batman City of Bane :
He loses Alfred, gets broken by Bane, his Father comes back, gets the chance to get his mother back from the dead, and REFUSES all that just to be Batman.
Because he NEEDS It.
And Nolan's Batman in The Dark Knight, is desperate to stop being Batman, just to be with Rachel.
Batman is putting HIS happiness above his concern for others.
Detail, he was Batman for barely A Year.
That's SO OUT of Batman's Character.
Personally, that's unforgivable to me.
Nolan's Batman was considered the Best Live Action Batman because he literally had no competition, since Burton's Batman was equally out of character ( massive murderer, killing inocents, being reckless with his identity ) as Nolan's.
Pattinson's Batman on the other hand is perfect, quiet, mysterious, obsessed, detective, empathic, caring only for others, not even a bit for himself.
Everyone has their own opinion about the movie, but Pattinson's/Revees's Batman is the best live action interpretation of the character ever taken on screens.
Oh definitely I was never a big fan of the Nolan trilogy except for the dark Knight not Bec of that terrible suit and bale trying to be wayyy too intimidating but because of heath and him being the best live action joker next to Jack Nicholson
Batman has never stopped being Batman Bec Batman is who he is really Bruce Wayne is a mask in of itself in hush the movie and original comics he tells Selina he's Bruce Wayne and they get together but he still continues being Batman 😂 b man is mental and emotional need for Bruce Wayne Bruce Wayne isn't a need for batman.... Bruce does charity work sure but that's to not be a super recluse but to always keep criminals off who he really is
@@Fighttilltheend0136 Bale nailed the playboy persona.
That's not my issue with his Batman.
The issue is that he doesn't care about being Batman. Hell, he wants to ditch the mantle in the end of the first movie.
Batman is not an objective that can be achieved and then discarded.
Batman is his personality resulted from a deep childhood trauma.
Batman doesn't want to be happy, he cares about the people's well being. He is completely selfless.
Bale's Batman literally wants to stop being Batman when the city needs him the most.
All just to be with Rachel. Batman is putting his happiness above his concern for others.
This is Batman's antithesis.
Bale was amazing in and outside the suit, looked great, moved great, was intimidating and everything.
My problem is not with the actor, is with the character he was playing.
@@matheusblancosoares7610 nahh I wasn't a fan of his batman I only loved his gliding because that's how batman normally would get around besides his grappling gun
@@Fighttilltheend0136 I understand and respect your opinion.
I just wanted to clarify why i don't like Nolan's portrayal of Batman's character.
Although i think his suit is great and also the fact that Bale delivers his best with the character that he is given.
I fucking love the way you describe the way he walks. I totally agree and it makes so much sense for how damn creepy this version of him is!
Don't forget. The Batman himself is onscreen for more minutes than any other Batman Movie.
The Batman is a great movie and gave us another perspective of the Dark night.
Stopped at 35 seconds. Agreed wholeheartedly 110%. And I was feeling that way within the first 5 minutes of the movie. The narration alone from Bruce made it seem like a graphic novel come to life.
I think we all can agree for a fact!
Every time an actor portrays The Batman character. Everyone has literally something to bitch about.
It can be the costume, The Voice, The character arc. The actual actor! Everyone will complain about something related to disagreement. 🗿
It was pretty good. I liked that they gave the Riddler a Zodiac killer-type look. The Burton films are still my favourite.
This may be the "best Batman", but if given a choice between watching this and one of the Burton films or even '66 Batman, I'd probably watch one of those over this. In my opinion those are more entertaining, this is more intriguing.
@@floyd2386 yeah this lacks entertainment. You nailed it, its intriguing but that goes when youve seen it once. Wouldnt watch it again on purpose thats for sure.
I really hope, as time goes on, the people that are determined to not give this movie a chance put everything they think they know about it aside and just experience this story. I’ve been a fan of Batman since I was a kid, I read a few comics here and there-watched all the tv shows and movies, but this is the first Batman I’ve seen in live action that accurately captured the core of Bruce Wayne for me. He makes mistakes, he lets his grief define him, control him. But even with all of it he still finds the strength to hope that Gotham can be better. That HE can be better.
Say what you want about different versions of the character existing, THIS is Batman to me. I have my qualms with the movie, particularly in it’s political themes i guess but everything about Batman, everything about Bruce is spot on.
Batman is and always has been my favorite superhero. The kindest superhero, in my opinion. And it just finally feels like they’re letting HIM be front and center.
that’s not to say that the other Batman films haven’t had good Bruce Waynes, but he hasn’t been the main focus of a live action film before. If you watch any other live action batman it feels, to me, like he’s a side character in his own movie. That the Bruce Wayne in that particular story was made to FIT the story-not that the story was made to fit him.
Anyway, I will stop rambling. Just know that I agree wholeheartedly and I can’t wait to see more of THIS Batman.
Oh! One more side note, I truly love that they leaned into the ‘why should you feel bad for a rich orphan’ thing. Bruce in this movie feels like he’s afraid his pain isn’t valid, feels like his pain is less than because of his wealth. The Riddler tearing Bruce down with his “That’s not being an orphan” really solidified that for me.
The thing I found interesting is that this version of the character definitely came across as neurodivergent, with being Batman being his special interest that occupies his time to the inclusion of everything else, with a personality of a wet kitten who thinks about nothing but murder all day. It was such a refreshing take, it is definitely up there for my most favorite impression of the character. You can definitely see this Bruce adopting (kidnapping) a small army of orphans, and I desperately wish the next movie gives us a proper Robin, just so that Battinson would be able to flail around as an overly protective dad.
I am a huge fan of the Nolan Batman but I absolutely loved this Batman and can’t wait for the sequel. I always said people unfairly judged Pattinson because of those horribly written twilight films. He kicked ass in a couple other movies so when they said he was gonna play him I was excited to see it and t didn’t disappoint!
It’s honestly my favorite version of Bruce Wayne. Especially since he’s true to himself. No persona, while making Bruce Wayne seem like he couldn’t be Batman.
It’s my favourite thing. And I can’t wait for the trilogy to complete the character. Reeves is amazing. Rob is amazing.
I liked emo Bruce Wayne. It takes time to build a facaud when you're broken. Great character development. In the next one I bet we will get the bruce Wayne we are all accustomed to.
1. I don't think you should have said, "and if you love this video and would be interested in hearing me talk more about the characters in The Batman, let me know in the comment section below by leaving a comment saying, 'I'm vengeance.'" I think you should have said, "and if you love this video and would be interested in hearing me talk more about the characters in The Batman, let me know in the comment section below by leaving a comment saying, 'I am vengeance. I am the night. I am Batman.'" Alternatively, you could have said, "and if you love this video and would be interested in hearing me talk more about the characters in The Batman, let me know in the comment section below by leaving a comment saying, 'I am vengeance. I am the night. And that was Vee Infuso. Just remember, if you're not tuning in, then you're missing out.'"
2. What do you think of Zack Snyder's Batman?
3. The "wristbands" are the gauntlets, which now store throwing darts.
I absolutely love this movie to death. Its the only movie where after I left I sat in my car for 10 minutes to process what had just happened. It was so amazing that I went to see it AGAIN in the theater. That time, I left the theater shaking. It wasn't even cold that day, so idk how it was happening. But, I was shaking. This is THE Batman film that should be praised. Dont get me wrong, I love the Dark Knight trilogy. But, TDK was the worst out of the 3 for me at least. It just felt bloated. Some Nolan fans hate on this movie bc it doesn't have Bale. Imo, Bale was the absolute worst Batman, besides Val Kilmer. The Batman is by far the most accurate representation of Batman as a character to date
T d k was fun but it felt like… who would even notice if Batman wasn’t in it 😊
Every. Single. Shot. Looks like a comic book panel, that's how you make a Batman movie make every shot, every scene look like a comic book or graphic novel panel
Thats a terrible prerequisite for making a batman film. Just make it look like a comic lol pretty goofy arent you
So what?! The story F-ing sucked, and they made batman an inept moron who can't stop anyone from doing anything, can't solve grade school level riddles, and somehow has plot armor and doesn't die, get hurt, or blow up. So what's good about him?
@@matthewandrews3883 there’s no need to be aggressive and try to start arguments, instead why don’t you try having a friendly discussion and listen to others opinions on why the like it and then give them reasons why you don’t like it. But there’s really no point in discussing anything with people like you because you’ll just argue and be aggressive because you’re probably a man child that gets butthurt when someone else has a differing opinion, you purposely clicked on a this video knowing you’ll get angry and attack other people for liking the movie, you need to grow up mate.
@@bombastic6023 I'm not being aggressive at all. Don't know where you got that from. I'm as cool as a cucumber bud. And I'm not attacking anyone. Did I mention anyone by name? I was sharing my opinion about the movie, that's all. Let's not judge others, just because they have a different and passionate opinion. 😉
@@matthewandrews3883 yeah unless your opinion is garbage.
Mask of the Phantasm enjoyers: “that’s not the answer I’m looking for!”
The dark knight fan: “and I thought my jokes were bad”
I liked this movie when I saw it in the theater, but I've gotta say it's really grown on me everytime I've rewatched it since. Gotham is perfect, and Gotham is the most important character.
Rob has really done great stuff since twilight, he was in Good Times, The Lighthouse, he did Tenet, and now he gets to be Batman himself
I agree, the guy has depth and i never doubted him after seeing Good Times. This is a guy whose only emotional moment in media was witnessing Aerith die in FF7 lol
This was fantastic man. You made some great points and really deepened my appreciation for a movie I already loved. Thanks for sharing great content with us and hang in there man! God bless you :)
I can’t get over how much I love Robert Pattinson as Batman. He’s not only my favorite live action Batman, but one of my favorite Batman portrayals of all time. Also the suit, oh my god the suit.
You've put into words why this is my favorite batman movie while also bringing some new perspective that i hadn't thought of. Great video.
Cinematography wise The Batman is the best.. Story wise The Dark Knight shits on pretty much every other batman film attempt out there
The Batman is the first movie to actually depict The World's Greatest Detective.
Robert Pattinson Version’s of Bruce Wayne/Batman is My Favorite Live Action Version of The Character.
the aesthetics of the movie already pushed it to my top three regardless of story or acting! gotham feels so dirty and dark… the direction was so artful!
Artful direction. Exactly. Cinematography is brilliant
I would like to see why Gordon trusts Batman so much (maybe during the apprehension of the Joker). Currently reading The Riddler Year One comics and it is great. Gives you a ton of character for both the city and the Riddler. If it was not for who the character is and who he is going to become, you would think it was a her origin story.
Wholeheartedly agree.. Definitely one of my favorite CBMs & one of the best of the year.
Paul Dano was fantastic as the Riddler. His scene in the jail interrogation room with Batman was the best.
My favorite part of this movie is the fact that Batman has to do detective work and he’s far from “The Worlds Greatest Detective”. Even when he gets stuff right it’s only half right or somehow incomplete. Very excited to see this interpretation going forward. 30:22 I completely agree with this ending statement🦇
Whats intriguing about Batmans detective work, is that The Joker is a better detective than him. On the deleted scene, Batman gives Joker the case files on the Riddlers murders. It took Batman a week to solve the case. Joker? 5 SECONDS. I wonder what they're going to do with this Joker bc I really like him
I agree that Bruce being portrayed as a suave playboy with amazing social skills just because that's been the norm is no reason not to delve into the reality of what living in a place like Gotham and experiencing what he experienced as a child would really be like. Pattinson nailed it imo.
This one is by far my favorite Batman movie. I think the big problem is the dark mark Twilight put on Robert Pattinson. People just see him as Sparkly Eddie, not knowing the dude is an incredible actor.
And best of all , we actually SEE Batman in this movie
We see Batman much more in this movie than the Bale and Keaton movies. Batman is there through out. Finally
Can’t wait for the sequel.
I’m torn between wanting another solo Batman venture to see him against another one of the rogues or wanting to see a Robin given to him. I’ve always liked the thought of playing into the aspect that he’s clearly too young and not at all ready to take care of and help a child get justice for his parents murder, but he does it anyway because when someone need to step up, Batman will.
Edit for add on idea: maybe have Alfred talk Bruce into it after Bruce had very clearly been spending time with the kid anyway idk
I'd wait for a third movie for Robin, but maybe toward the middle or end of a second movie for Dick Grayson.
I do think they could add Dick in the second film. Picture a scenerio where after the events of the first film Bruce is finally becoming active in Gotham with helping to rebuild the ruined parts of the city and creating a new trust fund for kids. Maybe he's the one who hires the circus in order to help raise more money as well and we see Dick's origin story and Bruce feels responsible for him. Unlike the mayor's son in the first film, Bruce will step in to help this orphaned kid and in a way Dick helps Batman open to more to people around him aside from Alfred and Jim
@@Spongebrain97 I think having a Dick that treats Bruce kind of like Bruce treated Alfred would help give Bruce some perspective and learn to more appreciate Alfred.
Even better, have them follow the comics arc... the first Robin grows away from him and rebels, the second gets beaten to death by the Joker... Batman being so imperfect is what I LOVE about this movie.
I agree, arguably. The original Burton Batman will always be my favorite, but not necessarily the best. Obvs the Nolan flicks are awesome. But goddam this movie surprised the shit out of me. I almost put it above ALL 3 Nolan films. The grounded, gritty, neor detective style was such a breath of fresh air.
To be honest with you when I was watch the Batman in the theater it was a masterpiece and they get Batman perfectly right for the character and I consider it to be one my favorite DC movies because of this I love the Opening we can get to see His point of view of Gotham and I also love the monologue it's very inspiring for us to not let our hatred and self destructive thought in you but just let it be I thought Robert Pattinson's performance would be well what people thought it was but this movie prove them wrong of his performance as Batman and I notice some reviews that people criticize the film and think that the dark knight is better than The Batman or stupid arguments that does not explain they're claim but what I say here Matt Reeves The Batman is did better for than The dark knight trilogy no offense for Nolan fans.
Genius film, could not agree more, easily the best Batman and the best Batman film. Absolutely love this video essay. It could not have been better.
Absolutely agree. I'm so excited for the sequels and just building this version out
I didn't like his Bruce Wayne portrayal, but his Batman was hands down the best one Ive seen in live action. It felt like the WB/Justice League version. His body language and use of penetrating stares felt like a real life Dark Knight.
If anything, a batman who is always growing and learning is far more accurate than a Batman who is at his prime and learned everything there is to learn. Cause he’s always trying to improve himself to be better
(Rant warning) I was so nervous when I heard Pattinson (The shiny Vampire guy?) was going to be Batman. My favorite super hero of all time, hands down, no contest. He knocked it out of the freaking park! Like, I didn't even care about him as an actor before.. but seeing what he can really do with the right circumstances, I gained a whole new respect for the man. This movie was the perfect storm, and it's the best Batman movie since 89. Not by much, but I'm biased. Burton's Batman will always be my Batman. Moving on, he plays Bruce Wayne probably best of anyone. You can see the pain, the PTSD, the anger.. all of it, without him saying a word. I always felt that while Bruce has to blend in, he shouldn't just forget all when he's not wearing the mask. I firmly believe the slpit in his personality.. he's Batman! Mask or not, he is 100 percent Batman. While I do hope in the next movie they do try to make him fake being Bruce a tad more.. not too much! Just a bit. As Batman, he's terrifying. His very first fight, I really thought he was going to beat the guy to death. You can see the anger, the pain, just exploding out. He didn't really do much Ninjitsu or anything, he just beat the ever loving sh!t out of the guy. Another thing they captured beautifully, better than any of the films.. was the criminal's fear of him. When they look into the shadows and start pissing down their leg just because they think he's there. Just 😘, chef's kiss. Realistically, I can't see myself doing anything less if it were me. To sum it up.. this is the Batman we fans have been waiting for! They better not screw it up. I love it completely as is. No wacky colors, no one liners, no goofy gadgets. It's almost like a slasher movie, and I think that's the best way to portray Batman. The intro to the subway fight .. that just gave me chills. Just nothing but the shadows, and then footsteps.. growing louder and louder.. the container scene when he's just tanking bullets.. holy crap! That's f**king terrifying! Oh, and the new Batmobile firing up for the first time.. ngl.. half mast when that happened.😂 That's a damn good Batman! Good sh!t, I can't wait for the 2nd.
@26:15 I really enjoyed him helping rescue civilians at the end and realizing he can be more than vengeance, it definitely reminded of the scene in Marc Webbs amazing Spider-Man after Peter saves the boy on the bridge and is back home staring at his mask
Stop the 🧢. This is the best overall comic book portrayal of a live action Batman in my opinion. It’s because of the detective angle. Bruce Wayne was based on Michael Corleone (as far as the speech patterns, smoothness, etc…) and I’m a huge Godfather fan, but Bruce Wayne is not Michael Corleone. That’s the issue there.
As far as The Batman side of things the detective elements and his relationship with Gordon was good. Him analyzing an entire room searching and using all of his knowledge and tech to find thing’s seasoned vets couldn’t see,that’s Batman.
Overall not the 🐐!
4 outta 5 for me.
Batman definitely doesn't understand yet why he is so infatuated with Selena.
Burton's BATMAN is my fave, but really liked the batman, better than Nolans IMHO