A Few Greenskins
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"I'm certainly going to play this to win, but primarily, I'm gonna try and kill as many of them as possible."
Spoken like a true dawi.
I agree.
Khazuk !
Grimnir would be proud.
Just like cousin Okri used to say!
When winning is no longer an option!
I wish You were the Auto-Resolve AI
Lol that would be op
LMAO
Certainly I see absolute no way that could backfire :^)
@@bud389 thats not what they mean. Quit being pedantic.
If it were him i would NEVER fight a battle myself
I was today years old when I learned how to defend a siege battle properly
39:25 That one dwarf that rallied on his own and went back in to his death, what a champ
The true legend of total war
He got all his Slayer oath stuff squared away rather quick
came here looking for a comment on that hero dwarf! not dissapointed
Yeah, benefit of playing as dwarfes is that they do fight to the death.
Dwarf took his oath and went down like a champ.
Sir! We are hopelessly out numbered and outgunned!
Legend: So it's a fair fight then
Fair fight for them xD
I need at least 10 to 1 for a fair fight.
if you find yourself in a fair fight then you're doing it wrong
Legend: So they have us surrounded. Those doomed fools.
- Sir, they have the double of our numbers! What we'll do?!
- That's not even a fair fight, I wanted a 3 to 1.
First battle is actually very lore accurate.
Small number of dwarfs holding ground against endless wave of greenskins who kill twice as many allies than enemies.
But they FLED!
That's a grudgin'
23:05
"They have taken the Bridge and the Second Hall. We have barred the gates but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes... Drums. Drums in the deep. We cannot get out. A Shadow moves in the dark... We cannot get out... They are coming."
BARUK KHAZAD! Stand, you Sons of Durin!
"Good. They can't get out either then. To war!"
On the next page can be gleaned:
"JK, they're all dead, lol, these goblins are idiots. Now for Durin's Bane."
FOOL
"They think they have us cornered. How unlucky for them!"
Grudge Throwers run out of grudge-carved stones to throw.
See stones laying all about.
Pretty sure Miners could use their picks and chisel out some new grudges.
Namely the 'running out of ammo' grudge.
Problem solved!
I always found running out of ammo in a siege a bit stupid
@@aidenpons9584 Siegecraft as a whole needs a major overhaul in this game. Both IRL and in the game, sieges were more common than battles, so if anything, sieges should deserve MORE attention than regular battles.
Artillery should damage walls OUTSIDE the battle, so the more artillery pieces you have, the more the walls will be worn down with each end turn you spend sieging. Artillery overall should be less effective against structures in the actual battle itself.
Walls destroyed should not leave a big hole, but instead properly crumble and turn into a pile of rubble that still gives significant high ground advantage (like a hill with a sharp incline).
Defenders should be able to position artillery on the walls (and fire at the enemy ahead).
AI should be able to execute 3 different strategies in a siege battle: If they outnumber the besieging force, especially in melee troops, they should sally out and fight below the walls, taking advantage of the towers by leaving their weak units on the walls to man them.
If they would lose in such a situation, they must calculate if a rush against the walls or a prolonged ranged engagement is more likely.
In the case of a prolonged ranged stand-off, they should leave their best units off the walls, back at town square to prevent the player to cheese them too hard. Keep archers and cheap inf on the walls to operate towers and trade with the attackers.
AI should focus ranged units and artillery in this situation with it's own missiles, instead of just shooting the closest enemy.
If a rush is coming (Chaos, Beastmen, anyone who lacks artillery) they should do what they are doing right now.
@@jabloko992
I love your ideas for the battles. Artillery causing wall damage over turns rather than in the battle itself is an amazing idea, I can't believe there hasn't been a Total War game that's played with that yet.
@@jabloko992 Not sure why you posted quite an intelligent post on YT comments. I know the CA devs read (if not act) on feedback and I also know they don't check Legend's comment section. Try the forums! I agree with a lot of that.
@@aidenpons9584 It was quite spontaneous, didn't really think about it.
'Where' exactly do they read the feedback?
Who would win ... One cheesy general boi with some Dwarfs or The Green Tide
Well, the Green Tide.
Its "Da Great Green Tide"
I haven't watched it at the time of writing but Dwarfs have some serious defensive value especially when the correct units and strategies are employed. The biggest thing is to know how to properly counter flanking cavalry
@@slinkerdeer Just do as the empire boyos say and form a ring of steel. Literally, around your quarrelers. May not be efficient, may be very bad, but it counters cavalry flanking by having no flank.
@@rileygoodrich305 Okay, good plan general bitchtits
"So far so well"
-Immediately friendly fires frontline with arty
Just to even up the fight, you know 👌
I can appreciate the lore friendliness, because that’s also one of the reasons the dwarves lost so much to greebskins in lore. They chose to hole up and defend and let the green skins build up
Are the Dwarfs obsessed with revenge because they somehow lost 1/2 of the map?
Eric Guier
Oh boy better hide what the Slann did to them then, cause the Greenskin grudge would seem insignificant.
@@Nope-en9bo What did they do to them? If you refer to the earthquake that started the Time of Woes, wasn't that caused by the Skaven in Skavenblight and their hell-machine malfunctioning?
@@frankhenschel4008 super late but I think in the lore the slann destroyed a bunch of dwarf kingdoms by terra forming the planet
The guy who sent this is in need to learn Greenskin (pest)control and eradication.
What do you suggest?
@@loladin100 Napalm, a good round of napalm will control their number.
That happens to me every time I try rushing Mount Gunbad as the dwarfs lol
Hire the Goblin Slayer? He would get along super well with the Dawi.
@@BlackSabbath628 Gs is only one, and there several armies of gobos, he cant be everywhere
The new patch's Legendary difficulty has made the green tide in the Dwarf campaign INSANE.
yeah for real, 70 + turns of pure anxiety
its awesome, what I always hoped for that region in the map. The orcs have to be a real menace for it to fit the lore, besides its great fighting at a disadvantage like that
Well now Dwarf start is becoming comparable to Greenskins. And you still have a superior roster, especially on Legendary, where you must rely on missiles and artillery. In Dwarf-Greenskins SP
matchup, Dwarfs are undeniably superior. You're playing against the most armored faction, your only early AP option is trolls who have atrocious morale on legendary. Boar Boyz and Nazi Skulkers (unless you're Skarsnik) are so low on stats, you might as well not bother. Not to mention Dwarfs' stronger economy, public order, tech (you have to build a tinkerer's workshop just to begin your research, often around turn 30-40), diplomacy, how easily they confederate. Greenskins have to rely on sacking for early income and Waaagh for army strength, both harder to manage, Dwarfs might as well turtle and advance slowly. Dwarfs are the most SP-friendly faction, comparable maybe to HE. Greenskins need these cheats to even give player some challenge.
@@jforozco12 Still it's annoying if they tie down all of your armies somewhere and sneak to the Pillars of Grugni just to burn it down repeatedly.
29:25
These titles and thumbnails seem like they should work for a little while.
Im sorry but I dont get it, are you calling the thumbnails bad? Or that he should get a job? Just curious
@@forsrob94 lmao in his stream yesterday he mentioned the anomaly in views that his easy battle greenskins video had, I'm just saying the title and thumbnail style is eyegrabbing to a larger portion of his subs
Fopalope oh haha yeah, his wifes work no doubt. Good team
@@forsrob94 what are you on about?
@@spyrostsoum6874 Legends wife has started editing some videos
39:10 one nearly dead Longbeard does not rout
Lore accurate.
20:30 a single dwarf in a unit still fighting despite him being the sole member of his group
Unbreakable
other youtubers: Can we get this video to 600 likes
legend: Can we get this artillery to 600 kills
me: (losing to the intro campaign battles)
15:06 orders the poor mutilated guy with 1 hp to go against 3 units of greenskins "hold them as long as possible" xD
26:00 when that twirly whirly goes through all the longbeards stacked on the right..
Even though you lost, that dwarven resolve is insane. One memorable moment in one of my Belegar campaigns is when queek plus 3 armies ambushed my army(that was marching to karak eight peaks). After getting raked from the side by warp lightning cannons (ouch) I pushed the hill they were on and destroyed queeks force, wheeled around and fortified a hill in this desert. They were reinforcing from across the map so they didn’t even form up but instead rushed troops to quickly reinforce Queek in blobs. I poured 25+ volleys of solid shot into densely packed troops using cannons supported by rangers with crossbows and throwing axes. All in all I annihilated 2 armies and crippled 2 more. However I lost 3 units of veteran dwarf warriors that fought to the last. After that the dwarves are my all time favorite and I starting nicknaming my artillery, like “Gork’s Headache”.
One dwarf build I've been experimenting with in custom battles on ultra funds is a Runelord + double rune smith with rune of wrath and ruin and the ruin that gives damage resist. For my frontline I like to use 2 ironbreakers + the ROR Ironbreaker. With rune support, the amount of punishment an ironbreaker can take is absurd. They can take like 3 to 4 armor piercing units at at a time and do amazing. They just won't die. I also bring 2 thunderers, an irondrake and 2 cannons and my backline never gets compromised (from the front anyways, sometimes cav will manage to sneak through the flanks)
I love that thumbnail
About the Cheats for Greenskins. They seem to have more passive XP gain than other faction and they definetly got more financial Cheats than in older Patches. For example the teeth robbas tribe was able to field 4 1/2 stacks with one minor settlment on legendary. That's just ridiculous
in my LEGENDARY campaign as Grombridal. I have nearly wipe out Grimgor, but from north vampire count started to invade so I make peace treaty with grimgor to fight against Vampire counts. While I spend around 20 or 30 turns fighting Von Carstein Family, Grimgor with 1 minor settlement united all greenskin in BadLands and declare war against me... WTF moment Was Grimgor have almost infinite standby army.... I destroy 4 their army in Karak Eight Peaks, suddenly in 2 turn, 4 full stack greenskin army ready …. It more likely I fight Chaos storm (just replace Chaos with greenskin) . For me, Greenskin is broken cheat in their army recruitment, How he can sustain more than 8 full stack army with their fragile economy. . .
29:25
tbh siege defences like this is one of the major reasons i love total war games
Yup. The best part of the game.
@Read SIEGE Eh, I prefer these ones over the 'have giant castle inside massive empty field but you only actually use a quarter of it since the AI never flanks' sieges from Medieval 2, those things took fucking forever or were over in seconds.
CuddlyTurtle I kinda liked that though. Had a siege were I was attacking and it was a bloody affair that lasted a hour and came down to only a few units left and it came out to a draw
@Read SIEGE So true
Sieges in m2tw were really buggy in my experience, I had one where I tried to move a unit to defend the gate and 1 person in that unit of soldiers decided to move forward and hold open the gate for the enemy forces. I have also had several where I was defending where the ai didn't attack until there were only a few seconds left on the timer.
I don't understand the hate against Axe Lord as mathematically it seems like a amazing option. I understand the strength of the blue line in the campaign but lets just look at the numbers for a typical greenskin combat situation.
The chance to hit in the game is determined by [Base Hit Chance of 40 + (Your Melee Attack - Enemy Melee Defense)]. That means every point is an increase in chance to hit an enemy and to defend against an attack. Note that this cannot be lowered below 10% or raised above 90% so the breakpoints for maximum effectiveness is +50 points of attack over the enemy defense and +30 points of defense over the enemy attack.
The stock Longbeard from your first battle had 30 attack and 48 defense while the Axe Lord Longbeard from the second battle had 43 attack and 56 defense. Considering that enemy Orc Boys have around 30 attack and 30 defense, Big Uns and Black Orcs have around 40 attack and 30 defense.
Running the numbers:
➤ Stock longbeard has a 40% chance to hit Orc Boys, Big uns and Black Orcs.
➤ Stock longbeard has a 22% chance to be hit by an Orc Boy and 32% to be hit by both Big uns and Black Orcs.
➤ Axe Lord longbeard has a 53% chance to hit Orc Boy, Big uns and Black Orcs.
➤ Axe Lord longbeard has a 14% chance to be hit by an Orc Boy and 24% to be hit by both Big uns and Black Orcs.
➤ Axe Lord longbeard has a relative 32.5% increase (40 * (1 + 0.325) = 53) in chance to hit Orc Boy, Big uns and Black Orcs.
➤ Axe Lord longbeard has a relative 36.3% reduction (22 * (1 - 0.363) = 14) in chance to be hit by an Orc Boy and 25% (32 * (1 - 0.250) = 24) reduction in chance to be hit by both Big uns and Black Orcs.
If there was a skill that said "Increases damage dealt by 30% and reduces damage taken by 30%" I think it would be considered the biggest no brainier to take every time. I am running a Grombrindal play through right now and Axe Lord combined with his ancestors army buff skill is allowing me to hit that +30 defense breakpoint even with dwarf warriors. I am winning battles against multiple stacks of greenskins that I have absolutely no right in winning due to pushing the math to its limit. Edit was to correct some formatting.
I think the biggest reason isn't necessarily that the skill isnt good for the units it buffs, but that once you get iron-breakers, those buffs will no long be impactful as you wont be using those units any longer.
Axe Lord is a fine skill. The reason why its bad is because it buffs units you wont have in your late game army, so its a "wasted skill" if you are good enough in handeling the early game. If you struggle early (like this guy clearly did) its absolutely worth getting. So its a good skill for bad players, but good players will always look down on you for wasting late game skill points.
I'm not reading that, Have a great day.
nice number crunching
@@redhulk4048 thank you for that incredibly important comment
Dwarfs are the best faction when heavily outnumbered high defense good armor high leadership I consider them the best faction in the game at least the one I've had the most success with in campaign and multiplayer.
andrew hoop It’s a tossup between High Elves and Dwarves for me in single player. High elven magic options combined with their armies is pretty good
@@JB-xl2jc high elven archers...nuff said
best campaign faction is vampire counts followed by vampire coast really. you can put out stacks for 300 upkeep since skeles are free and then by the time anyone gets down there you have like 50 stacks of skeletons waiting for them.
@@TheChaosNova vs the simple A.I you might be right, but in the example of a player head to head, Vampires aren't that great outside of their magic, which a smart player would level up characters to reduce your winds of magic. High Elves and Dwarves have the best balance of Elite unites, not counting lords and heroes.
As for who is better High Elves or Dwarves. High Elves, purely due to magic which the dwarves lack, as well as flying monsters and cav. The dwarves cannot fully counter the HE, they turtle up to defend a flank, they bunch up for AOE magic. They spread out, they will get flanked by the much faster units. HE flying units can delay the artillery enough for the rest of the army to close the gap as well.
Without a terrain advantage, the dwarves struggle vs the mobility and versatility of the HE, but terms of settlement battles, the dwarves have the advantage, on attack or defense. Once again this is all based on player vs player, the a.i being so shocking bad its not worth the effort to explain the effects/differences IMO. Love this game, but so bored by the easy A.I. Even on legendary, which in my opinion makes the game easier as you can farm rebels for gold and exp.
cathulion etharn amazing Archers, decent staying power, good magic, and even the bolt throwers aren’t bad. I’m biased because they suit my playstyle best, but they’re objectively very strong.
Vampires are good solely because of upkeep shenanigans and Wind of Death, but yeah, they’re very strong
Top 10 best defendable cities in W1-2
Szathmari Lambert pretty sure Lothern should be in there, so easy to defend that city...
Szathmari Lambert the new Empire gatetowns, ammo is your only limit
mso2013 I’ve found brettonia I’m very hard difficulty can destroy a level 5 fort pretty easily in manual battles
@@olivernikolic9362 we are talking about defendable cities by player freind. but! i do wonder how you set up your armies as brettonia lategame to beat towns without "art-chease" will you mind sharing some info. as brettonia has allwasy been a faction i havent really understod.
@@mso2013 Maybe with a healthy amount of hyppo knights, they eat any walled defence for breakfast :))
Can we get some fanart of Ledgend saying "Hah! Smashin' their own troops. What a Moron." With Grudge throwers yeeting rocks into Dwarves in the background?
Easy autoresolve without a doubt
Going back and watching this after the most recent patch.
My god the turn times. I had already sorta forgotten!
Just reminding that whole war for Karak Eight Peaks was waged by King Belegor having just 500 dwarves under his comand. Thousands of greenskins under Skarsnik and tenth of thousands of skaven of clan Mors died to take that mountain from dawi.
27:49 Man, can you think of a good heroic soundtrack for this moment?
Any two steps from hell :P
"Together, we stand!"
"To glory"
On very hard, you can pause the game to micromanage.
The sound of Dwarven artillery is so satisfying.
God bless Bardin from Vermintide. His Drakegun can literally demolish hordes of anything.
"Ship master, the beasts outnumber us 3 to 1!"
"An even fight then."
Sorry, had a halo 3 moment there for a second.
"Then it is an even fight." ***
This happened to me too. Also on VH. 7 armies came to silver road. I was so so close to beating them back but it was just too much.
This by far is the single greatest achievement I have ever seen
@39:30 'That one dwarf,probably garrison' No,Legend, he was one hell of a dwarf hero.
11:16 I guess that cannon crew had drink too much ale that day and was drunk in a very inappropriate moment
I'm not even playing Total War, but it's so damn entertaining to see you outsmart such overwhelming numbers.
I suddenly got flashbacks from that angrund-save Legend did a rescue on way back.
The problem with warhammer total war is that everyone can rebuild a full stack army in about 5 turns. so you often end up in a situation were you smash multiple armies and then need to heal your army but by the time you heal your army the ai has trained another 5 full stack armies.
That's because the AI cheats on the higher difficulty levels.
When those wolf riders showed up, I thought that was pretty funny. I've beaten 3.5 stacks with 2 in a field battle on very hard with the dwarfs, but that was not against such high tier ork units
Seems like a pretty normal day in the holds of the dawi.
Now THIS is more like it, this is 4 stacks. Not like previous videos "stacks"
This is the most interesting game I've seen in a long time!! More like this please!
You could say you "Dwarfed" their armies in the first battle.
“Just a few orks”
This is what I love about total war and warhammer. Odds stacked against you and hordes of enemies to battle.
Loving the battle videos!
That first battle is loreful for the dwarfs out numbered and on the defensive vs the urk and grobi
Mate these saving your disaster battles are so funny! 😂
Should use target ground, with the artillery, helps to prevent friendly fire.
Watching the Dawi mow down rushing greenskins makes the day brighter :)
Your definition of “a few” worries me
you just don't know how many spiders he do have in the back of the yard.
I mean in Warhammer lore terms this probably is a few lol.
this is the quality content I subscribed for
Took two minutes before I learned something after over 300 hours: you can move unit cards.
Aaah the good ol' dwarven defence against hordes of greenskin.
never seen such a small waaagh before.
THEY DON'T STOP ARRIVING LORD, THERE ARE MANY!
Great vid! loved watching. Also really like the thumbnail: Nice!
I had a similar experience to this in Medieval 2 once. I was at war with Venice and they seemed to be moving an army to my capital so I reinforced it, but then they attack Vienna instead which had mostly militia, two archer units, a general and a few armored Sargent. Their army had experienced armored Sargent, Pavise crossbowmen and heavy cav. But I kicked their asses after a very difficult battle and then took venice
this is brilliant...a masters level class for this game
More episodes like this where you fight giant hordes of enemies
Grimgor VS Thorgrim in Karaz-a-Karak! This campaign is amazing in a way that it let this battle actually happen naturally. It is way more immersive than the regular winning and snow-balling campaigns.
This made me subscribe, such an epic battle.
A little too much Dawi ale for those cannon crew eh? Good stuff, Legend.
The title and thumbnail combos are strong.
Love the vids Legend. Always worth a quick view
Legend, one strategy I like to use for this is a Broken Arrow strategy for artillery. Let them form a blob or line and hold down the ALT key and bomb their back lines or middle of the blob.
Thumbnail is brilliant!
These recent thumbnails have been great!
Now this is what the greentide looks like.
Great series idea! Save my disaster battle!
Wow, this is truly The Last Stand
quite often on Hard Campaign and Battle, I entrench my self in the underway against several armies of orks, undead or even chaos. Keep the artillery guns hot, with plenty of ammunition you'll wipe them out.
Late game I have 3 Organ Guns and 2 Cannons. Organ guns are great for whacking entire units out of battle, the armour piercing etc does wonders.
I love those thumbnails please keep doing it.
Well, thats the icy veins dwarf guide in action.. (skills/research etc..)
These have to be my favorite thumbnails
This is the most dwarven thing I have ever seen.
We need a LegendofTotalWar Top 10 defensively city maps in Warhammer 2 now!
Greenskins had a man on the inside operating that cannon lol
Dude, those thumbnails are golden XD
Those artillery crews were all grobi in disguise
Legend they outnumber us 3 to 1!
Legend: Then it is a fair fight.
I agree, dwarfs are really good at defending, but against a force like that, damn do I want some magic
top 5 or 10 defensible cities/castles and worst.keep up the battles too
As a big fan of Dawi that was painful to watch. As I just imagine how big of a Grudge Thorgrim would have written.
I notice these new thumbnails way better than before. The issue with following a couple totalwar channels is that seeing the characters faces just starts blending all in as the same video.
On lower difficulties, I like to use thunderers as front line troops and watch them blast enemies apart while quarrelers hide behind them. I'm not sure they would work that well doing this on higher difficulties, but it's fun watching things melt instantly anyways.
The Line of Sight-pathing for ranged on some of these battlefields are just ... HORRIFIC! Gamebreaking bug #1
Yeah the worst is when your artillery moves forward for no reason. That & guns, I just cannot stand gun troops.
@@KamikazKid aye. But that piercing damage is SO good when you are able to flank close range and fire unhindered into enemy rear.
Guns REALLY need a hill so they can fire either upwards or downwards with the entire unit firing at the same time. With the elevation they can fire over your units perfectly. Checkerboard patterns are alright on flat fields but pale in comparison to the hill defense.
I am Prince _and_ Emperor!
@@Fau1ted I will hear your petition, but make no promises to act on it!
Karl Franz THEY HAVE WRONGED US
I miss these
Orks got a nice buff with the new updates. On my Empire campaign on normal they got some nice doomstacks with tons of black orcs going most of the time. Generally, I feel like this is a step into the right direction, to not get bored in the middle stages of the game.
Awesome video Legend!
I noticed the difficulty on lower difficulties has been raised as well. Played again after a small break, on normal, suddenly greenskins come in rolling with 3 full stacks wih big uns alongside 2 stacks of crap of their allies. They seem more aggressive and pump out more (higher tier) troops than before
@Chase Moore Basically at turn 20 they started to send full stacks at me every 2 or 3 turns, at turn 40 the greenskins allies send 5-6 stacks of troops at me basically every 2 or 3 turns, and not just crap, but full big uns stacks including 1-2 artillery in every stack. Also they expanded much more aggressive... by turn 20 they eliminated Barak Varr. Also they seem to coordinate more, allies moving several stacks together and hitting several settlements in my starting province at the same time. My one army is really high level, but expanding seems so much harder now, because I can only support one viable army that has to fight 2-3 stacks every 2 turns or so. Also grudges accumulations gets annoying. Also Karak Azul got completely destroyed by turn 35ish, Barak Varr by turn 20.
YOU CAN CONTROL WHAT THE TOWERS SHOOT?!
Goddamnit...
One thing that I have seen is when there is a blob if you alt attack a location instead of a unit artillery has a better shot placement and you can avoid your units better. I love when the ai blobs on a unit and I have mortars. I alt attack just outside my units and get em good
"Shady Pigkissa"
I am running a grombrindel campaign where I had to leave a 12 stack at home to defend just karak a kazak so Grombi coulld go north and get the gold mines and trade routs. that 12 stack ambushed 8 seperate armies and attacked and destroys 4 others in the 16 turns or so it took for grombi to finish and head home.
10:48 Da sneakiest move pulled from a greenskin AI I have seen so far...only that out of all units they used wolf riders for it. xD.