Building My Dream Muscle Car Part 1 1970 Plymouth Sport Satellite
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Today Jared gets to spend a day working on his favorite muscle car ever made, the 1970 B Body Mopar, specifically his Plymouth Sport Satellite. Moving the car around has been a nightmare due to the broken front suspension, so it tackles it by installing his favorite suspension setup, the QA1 Tubular front end. He brings the suspension tech into the modern era! And he spends some time explaining what a shock does in the role of the suspension.
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i think the patch and repair on the frame is the best idea, it keeps it more original like you'd want to begin with
I agree especially with the weight reduction of the QA1 parts. This is the type of projects that shine on this channel.
A new rail wouldn't have the same quality of metal either. And it could be either better or worse quality, neither good for the car. If you HAVE to do the left rail, you have to do the right rail too, because what happens in time, is you end up stressing either of the two (depending on which is weakest) and then you're back to square one. Patches are the way to go on such a small booboo.
Agreed-drill and patch the original.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough. Drill and patch. Drive and enjoy!
I agree with all the patch and repair. However, I think it should be done before installing new parts. A good repair will be undetectable. Drill the ends of the crack. Weld and grind to the original profile. Cut out any rust, patch and grind. Coat with Rockguard or similar and nobody will be able to see the repairs 🤩
Jared, I am with you repairing the original rail. A new rail looks just like what it is. A new repop part.
14:48 'why put it all in if going to take out for paint?'
A good reason is then it all fits so not having to hack at freshly painted metal.
Do you paint a car before putting in new quarter panels?
Get it all done, and right so dont have to deal with stuff after its painted.
drill/weld patch and repair. The next 50 years it will live a much better life than the last 50 years. My 1968 Firebird was frozen in time since I started storing it in a garage in 1982.
That dog is so cute
Bodywork first, Engine later. With the crack and rust on the frame rail, I'd change that, too. It's a once in a lifetime build, not fix it on a weekend!
After doing some paint and then having to rebuild a big section after the mechanical build out, the ‘pretty’ stuff should get fully built out to a finish, then get the final body work and build out to make sure it’s what I wanted
I absolutely agree with “mocking up” every part before finalizing the metal work/bodywork/paint. I learned this the hard way many years ago, and I’ve been reminded of that lesson many times over the years! When building different cars-especially for the first time… i never failed to forget a minor detail “test-fitment” before having paint on the car🤦🏻♂️! It’s at this point you start praying whatever bezel, grill, or stainless trim piece that borders the paint fits as it should without gaps! Consideration of details like these and being methodical are what enable my 45yr old example to out perform the 21yr old version that was full of energy-and mistakes! 🤦🏻♂️😂
By the way Jared, I love the satellite, the frame rail should absolutely be repaired as it is. Those areas are prone to damage from potholes-even on cars with no rust. I’ve seen much worse damage where those (welded nut) K-frame mounts are repaired and never fail. Having new rails is a wonderful option for body rot and collision damage-but trust me-replacing them is extensive process! I say mock up every single piece on the car, use all the nuts, bolts, and shims, to make the panel gaps right. You don’t have to install the glass, trim-clips, or trim-screws but I would ensure you have new stainless trim clips/screws for everything (just lay them in the channel to be sure-then bag them back up. Remove any old clips and screws from the body-allowing you to place & check the trim fitment against where the painted edges will be.
Once all of that stuff is done gather a group of car buddies together for a careful Saturday tear down while you document everything in a notebook just for the satellite. Tag and bag every bolt, washer, nut, and screw. As you remove each panel bolt-write down how many shims are there, if something needs attention here, or missing bolt here etc. The time you will save by doing that will expedite the process…making the end result SO worth it! I built a 70’ satellite around 2009. It had to have the trunk floor, trunk extensions, quarter patch panels(lower rear), the outer wheel tubs, and drip rail patches(rear window corners) all of the sheet metal came from AMD. Ive done quite a few like this, I’m sure you probably have too, but if you happen to get stuck on something, need any advice, or some tips/suggestions you’re welcome to contact me brother.
I’m Ryan, and here is my email😊
Midnightoilsrestoration@gmail.com
Good luck on the build, I’ll be following along, you’ve got a great channel 😊
mad respect for not making a clone. blow it apart make the body perfect and then get it running. you know if you start driving it tearing it back apart is 10x harder.
Professor Jared comes through again with such an easy-to-follow layman’s demonstration of the relationship between shocks and springs!!!
I love the candid "confidently wrong" shots. Feels like we're in the shop with you learning right alongside. I conquered my first old vehicle restoration with a 40 year old motorcycle. Wish I could find some decent examples with confidence to do stuff like you're doing here!
Finally a B Body build! Now i can look at my dads car and know what im looking at 😂 cant wait for the next vid!
I'm really excited for this. My father had a 2 door Sport Fury (the smaller brother of the Satellite). We lost him a few years ago, but he would have loved seeing you bring this back to life.
I'm in the middle of a Mopar project myself at this time. A 1977 Dodge B300 based RV with a dually rear axle that I will be turning into a 1 ton dually extended cab flatbed. It will end up painted just like my grandpa's 1973 Dodge B200 van as a tribute to him and his legacy. RIP Grandpa.
My dad had a 1970 white roadrunner that he claimed was the fastest car he had ever owned. It originally had a 440 HP that he blew up using alcohol to win a street race against a 327 Chevelle. A friend of his who owned a salvage yard told him to leave the car with him overnight and come back in the morning. He did just that to find a 440 that was pulled from an old highway patrol vehicle that sported 2 4 barrel carbs under his hood. He said after that upgrade the only thing that could catch him was a police radio...lol. Great video, thanks for sharing. It would likely be easiest to do the body work and frame work before you install an engine depending on your time allotment, but either way I'm here for it. Been a Mopar fan all my life, love getting to see these get the love they deserve. As for the frame, being as the car will never truly be numbers matching, go for whatever gets it to the road. If your plans are to keep it and enjoy it, then build it for you. Anything done can be undone or redone, save all the old stuff for when you have gotten your enjoyment from it so that if it makes it to the next person, there is an optional direction for it's next life. Keep 'em coming.
70 roadrunner was only offered with a HP 383, 440 SixBarrel, or 426Hemi. To get the 440HP you had to get a Superbird or GTX.
Sounds like good times were had though!
@@ronmurnieks9483 Well to hear my dad tell the story, it was a standard 440, but yes you are correct, but truth be told, Mopar did allow anything for special orders. There are some pretty strange should not exist combinations in the Mopar world, and the right amount of money could persuade nearly anything. I once encountered a 75 Chrysler Newport special ordered with a slant 6. Who knows, Unfortunately I wasn't alive just yet, but my 3 brothers did confirm this story. That being said, He was not the original owner of the car, so it could have been modified before he got it. I did google it, and the facts are a little all over the place, but apparently they offered a 440 super commando at 375 horsepower, and a 440-6 at 390 horsepower. What I know of the later super commando is that they were stamped as 440 HP on the 76 era New Yorkers, although they weren't nearly as powerful. People did like to source them a lot at the junk yard my oldest brother worked in.
Rebuilding 64 Thunderbird power bucket seats to put into my 64 Galaxie 4 door. Also replacing the solid fan with no shroud with an electric fan to keep it cool. In traffic. That's what I'm working on currently
I just did valve cover gaskets, plugs, and coil wires on my G500 recently. I really is all about the small victories - each one brings a car that much closer to perfection. I finally fixed the hydraulic top on my SL500 the other day - that was another small step for Rolling Stonks, giant leap for my confidence that I can resolve vehicle maintenance at home. It feels really great when you're able to fix something without making anything else worse. Can't wait to see this car restored! New suspension is going to be SMOOTH!
In high school my friend had a 68 GTX 440 auto and it was the same body style as your Satellite Sport. I had a 66 GTO 389 4 speed.
My father has that exact 66 Goat with 389, awesome car.
I agree the B body mopar cars are the best looking. I daily drive a 1972 charger. And if I may suggest the wilwood disk breaks kit all the way around I love it on my car
My favorite "muscle car" isn't necessarily a muscle car but is so aesthetically pleasing to me is the 1970 Ford Maverick. It is squatty, got a wide butt and is just so beautiful. By the way the Maverick was one of their best selling "mid size" vehicles to sell in that era.
I've known how shocks and springs worked for decades, but Jared's demonstration really put it into terms that would allow me to actually explain the concept to another normal human and it was great. I even actually better understand it myself now.
I remember as a child watching movies with my dad, he was a handyman type, so for work he did everything from fixing cars to roofing (everything inbetween). We were always poor, so for vehicles we literally had whatever we could get. He was always fixing them and taught me my way around an engine. My first car was a 4 door 72 Nova lol.
Anyway back to movies, I remember watching vanishing point and thinking that 1970 Challenge was the coolest car ever and it's been my dream car ever since haha (yeah me and everyone else).
I also remember watching Smokey and the Bandit and wanting a 77 Trans Am as well haha.
I'm glad to see this. I know you had said you were waiting on parts for the supra, so I'm glad to see a passion build. I wanna see a black hood and wide steelies 🤙
24:05 that thing is going to look pretty sharp!
It's a sign!
Looking forward to this one, Patch and repair the frame rail and get stuck into the body first
Build the engine first and get the car running. As a side note, my dad had a 1970 Dodge Coronet 500. As another side note, I had a 1970 Ford Thunderbird. Not exactly "muscle" cars but they were awesome and the T-bird floated down the highway. This build is bringing back some very fond memories.
70 Birds had a great rear. Front was fuglier than my 73!
I’m stoked for this! QA1 for the win and seeing you build a “clean cruiser”.
Something great for cruises like power tour or the war of the interstates. 😁
Big block 1970 Plymouth 2 door Taxis ROCK !
If it is a forever car consider replacing rail, if not patch it
Thanks for asking. I'm almost done replacing "all" the front and rear bushings (suspension and steering), plus shocks and struts on my 99' 4runner limited with 275k miles. Since I'm replacing all the rubber bushings with urethane ones, my ride quality will be a little rough but so much tighter and handle better.
These QA1 K member kits that you've been using lately are so awesome.
Love the technical terms.. Cadiwampus.. 😂❤😂❤
Currently restoring a 75 corvette stingray. Adding the suspension and steering linkage.
Man do I just like your Videos!
Just some Nice wrenching, small talk and a bit of education.
Sooo relaxing!👍🏻
Drive as is....!!!! i learned after my heart attack that I wasn't going to live forever nor did I want to worry about chasing dust off my fresh paint job!
You can always tackle a body panel at a time while you're enjoying the hell out of driving a perpetual project!
18:09 That was smooth
The old Ford Thunderbolts just amazing machines 😊
My favorite muscle car is a 1970 Pontiac LeMons Sport Convertible! My dad had one when I was learning to drive, used to drive it to school. Loved that car!
They actually make a tool for removing the Mopar torsion bars, it essentially bolts around the bar with a heavy steel plate that hangs down that you can smack, you can get them through Mancini Racing. It took one hit on each bar on my charger.
Beaumont 67’ is my fav!
You asked what are we working on… picked up a 92 s10 extended cab for my teen to drive to Highschool. It’s the 4.3 2wd Automatic. Just put a set of Corvette Rally on it and did a tune up.
Love TQG. Please share more costs of the builds- car, parts, etc- best channel for realism in RUclips. Live vicariously thru Jared!!!
Jared, my first milestone will be....acquisition of a vehicle. I'm currently without a ride. I can do better spending monies putting fuel in the tank than getting a Lyft or Uber whenever I want to go somewhere.
My absolute favorite Muscle Car is and was "The 1970 Plymouth Roadrunner and/or GTX" I had two and the first was a POS/learner and the second was a badass. I was Gutted when she was totaled back in 1986. Today, she could be fixed and upgraded but sadly I'm now disabled and I'm lucky to even be a homeowner. Nobody gets rich on disability. I would crawl through a half-mile of Cactus to have just one more, even a clone. Clone schmone, who cares?! I loved that car SOOO much. subbed today 4-19-24.
Back in the day, a neighbor of mine had a 1970 Plymouth Road Runner with a Starsky & Hutch paint job. That car was sick!!!
My favorite low-production classic muscle car is the AMX, but the B-body Mopars are right up there so I'm happy to see this build advancing. Even if Magne doesn't seem too excited, heh.
Hey, the hearse comes out of storage on the 27th! Car Show season is at hand!!
My dad, my son, and I have been working on a '67 GTO for years, and I suppose the sunk cost fallacy dictates at this point that it's my favorite.
love the old school quote slipped in... "make" build it better ... i am a Mopar guy since the 80's driving "test driving" my dad's turbo shelbys... from the glhs, to the csx (shadow), to daytona shelby turbos... to working on my 2003 dodge dakota family truck on the side of the road in the city with busses passing by my feet as i reach for wrenches...and mopars definitely have a tendency to rust lol...looking forward to this build !!!
Thank you for the shock/spring/dampener lesson. I love learning. That was great!!!
Detail the engine bay and build the engine, drop it in and enjoy it while you begin to fix the car's other issues.
On a personal note, I like your dog. I have a Great Pyrenees as well named Maggie.
What I am working on is a genuine 1967 Mustang Fastback. I was fortunate enough to get one way back in 2003 and have had it stored until life allowed me to devote to it. I just got a Classic Auto Air system to replace the rudimentary AC unit it came with. Hoping to have her complete enough for Power Tour this year. I like your videos and style of making them. Thanks for the laughs.
Definitely digging this. My dad had a 70 AAR cuda and then a 68 (I think) GTX when I was a kid, along with a 67 satellite he swapped a 440 into and a 69 corvette and some other great cars before I came along, which he all had before prices skyrocketed and they all became unobtanium. I'm in my early 30s now and my best friend got his dream car, a 67 charger that we've gotten pretty road worthy and taken on some fantastic trips. I got my dream car for cheap, a 71 datsun 240z that has a bit of a ways to go, but getting there. I'd argue the 240z is a very american car, not sure about it being a muscle car, though. I'm ultra excited to get it driving and eventually be going on roadtrips with my buddy's charger. Sick satellite project, I'll be following along!
I like the Hudson .... Their 6 cilinders were absolute monsters.
Back in the late 90s i had a 72 sattelite 440 six pack that i drove to college my absolute favorite car ever but ruined front suspension and no money forced me to sell it im glad to see someone appreciate these cars and not make a roadrunner clone out of it thanks for the great conetent looking forward to seeing this build continue
Definitely do the full frame rail replacement. You have it in your teeth. I dont feel like patching it will give you the end result you want but again. Your ride, your choice! Its the beauty of owning a car.
I agree on the supra being the forever car but for American muscle cars it has to be specifically the 1969 dodge charger. Though a close second would be a 1970 chevy nova.
Yes! Ive been waiting to see this since i spotted it in the background. Had a sport satellite and gtx, sure do miss em. 1970 was by far the best year across the whole mopar lineup from A to E body.
I would inspect the cracked frame rail as much as possible. If it's not rusted out on the inside, the stop drills and a patch will work. Replace the rusted out body sections and also work on rebuilding the engine going back and forth between the two.
I love cars hands down but your positive attitude just brings me happiness thank you brother.
Just had our first drive in my 14 year old sons Mustang! Well nit the official 1st but first with everything functioning! Can’t wait to watch this build!!
My all-time favorite ... 1969 Z-28 Camaro ... I pretty much like them all!!
Excited for this build!
Finishing my 3 year Jeep rebuild project. I swapped the frame on my 88 YJ and basically rebuilt it from the frame up. I'm 50 and it's the first car I've ever worked on. It's taught me a bunch and given me the chance to buy LOTS of tools!
6:10: When I saw that kluge repair, I couldn't help thinking the guy that did it had a mullet and a John Deer cap, slapping it together with a bolt he found lying around in his garage and calling it fixed. If you haven't already named your project car, I suggest something with Mullet in the title, like Mullet-Head or Mr. Mullet or something like that. "Business in the front and party in the back!" The project looks great, btw. As rusty as it is, it's actually amazingly un-rusty considering how those cars rotted away. I really like Mopars from that era too.
My project is replacing brake rotors, pads and stainless lines on my 335k mile 94 C1500 Suburban. Then replacing the shocks with Bilstein shocks and eventually figuring out how to install the body bushings.
that looks like it is going to be a fun build many years ago when I was a teenager I owned a 1970 Plymouth "Cuda convertible. man was it fun while it lasted. Thanks for sharing
Favorite muscle car? Foxbody mustang. SVT of course.
Got a 1968 Coronet 440 with an 871 sticking out of the hood. I has the same b pillar and roofline as the roadrunner and that car.
I heard wise man once say- “Don’t get it right, just get it running!” From a viewer standpoint, I think it would be cool to see it back on the road as is! I think it would build confidence for you to ride around in it for a bit then tackle the cosmetics a little later! Really enjoying this build 👍🏼 whatever you choose will be sweet
Old Mopars are just beautiful! I’m a huge fan of restomods but there’s something special about period correct hot rod builds. I think you hit it on the nose with this one! Can’t wait to see where this project goes! Keep up the awesome work!
Make it a luxury rod build. A comfortable cruiser. Maybe build the motor/trans for gas mileage, but powerful enough to be fun. Put in A/C. There are too many all out sport builds (drag racing, autocross, etc.) You need something nice to cruise in.
Yes, something to cruise into Cars and Coffee with and just enjoy the journey with!
He has the Caddy
I'll give it to you, that was a great visual of how a shock works with the spring. Get the new frame section.
Favourite muscle car: ‘68 Mustang. Tidier sides with the fake vents being deleted; meaner grille with the pony and dividing bar deleted; great overall shape and before the plastic styling parts started to be bolted-on. Mopar resisted plastic crap longer than others (Superbird notwithstanding!) and for that I salute them, but for me it’ll always be a ‘68 Mustang inhabiting my dream garage 🙂
I love old Mopars but the doggo upstaging you is the best.
1966-67 Ford Fairlane. My dream car.
Finally what I’ve wanted you to do forever! Build a Car that you can build for yourself! This is the Content I love! Happy for You,You really Deserve it Bud! Take the frame off a Treat frame,New Lines,All New Body Mounts,etc! The Channel,Car,and you Deserve’s it. Full Resolution!!!
Never seen this channel before, the title got me.
I'm so glad I'm 54 and got my first car, which I still have, and it was a musclecar, and it was the car I wanted as my dream. Then and now.
It's a 1970 Oldsmobile 442. I still got it and I'll die before it's no longer mine.
Edit : growing up a good friend of mine had other stuff but one that stuck out was a grey primer, relatively clean for Michigan car, 1969 satellite. Yes it had a transplanted junkyard low compression 440 with headers. On a daily driver this meant no starter changes in the parking lot in January at K-mart like my A-body GM stuff, but still...that dash was and is so very cool. The sounds thru a low trim satellite with very little sound deadening and actually daily driving it thru winter in Detroit all thru the 1980s with a 10+ year old car then was more than impressive and fun.
Nice! I can't wait to see you build this into a beautiful dream car and not just a race car (not that there's anything wrong with that of course). Totally understand loving a 70s muscle car too, my favorite is the 1971 boat-tail riviera.
Do the necessary bodywork to get the "while it's not in there's " done. Then build the drive line. It will break up the project and give us/you the small wins to keep it moving forward.
You asked about our projects, im currently working on slightly modifying my 2001 Tiburon, I've done more than I can list here but I recently put on now front fenders, parking break cables,and rear sway bar. Last november I started body work so its in primer, did i mention its my daily. I like to think I only have 5 % left but these at least 70% of the time I'll spend on it.
We are building a 69 AMC rambler american.. so far we installed mustang 2 type front suspension, c5/c7 front brakes 13 in rotors, 2017 5.7 hemi, 8hp70 trans 8.8 rear .. and a 2015 hemi 2.4 liter SC .. work in progress
I use an old Plummer's strap wrench when hammering out long rods (or pipes). It does not slip at all.
My first car I got when I was 16 in 1973 was a 69 Roadrunner 727 auto 383 with air yeah one of the few, about a year later I got a 70 Roadrunner (my Dad wanted the 69 he was a Ford guy go figure) it had the air grabber hood and Pistol grip 4 speed also a 383. Loved them both but the 70 has always been the car I wish I would have kept. Right now I have a 68 Dart and a 72 Barracuda haven't run into the rust issue on these too much. Looking forward to seeing where you go with this. Also if it's not extensive I would weld and patch the frame rail done right it should be just as strong.
Ironically I'm doing a complete front and rear suspension like you are on a 67 Mustang Convertible. It's a 6-banger car but fixing it up for my wife whom was born in 67. She is fighting and beating ovarian cancer and loves your dogs :-)
I would do the whole frame rail. It’s more expensive and more work, but you’ll never have to worry about it ever again, not only in that one spot but everywhere else on the frame, too. Set it and forget it
A couple history points: Rack and pinion steering was introduced by BMW in the 1930’s many European makers following in the 50’s. The Ford pinto was the first US car to have Rack and pinion in the 70’s Second torsion bars are more recent than leaf of coil springs patented in its present form by Porsche in 1931. Torsion bars had advantages over early coil springs that detail development of chassis, shocks and coil springs mitigated those advantages. For the record military tracked vehicles still use torsion bars.
Favorite muscle car has always been a two way tie between the 1970-1973 Pontiac Trans Ams and The 340 Dusters.
Nice buddy, I have a 70 satellite, my high school car,lol owned since 1987. Love the channel
My late father had a Roadrunner, Satellite, Camaro and a Chevelle. Keep in mind this is back when they were common vehicles and nothing special. He liked the Satellite and it was cheaper than a Roadrunner on insurance back then too. Also in his words the Camaro was the best handling one for tracks. The others were good for burnouts and drag racing. Obviously 😂 my favorite is a 70 Roadrunner.
Great episode! I’m really looking forward to watching your progress with this (and your other) project(s)!
I think you should replace the frame rail, since this is your dream muscle car. You’re already going to be replacing the body panels and you want this to be as good as possible. With your knowledge, skills, and expertise it will be, no doubt.
My favorite muscle car is the ‘87 Buick Grand National/GNX. The original owner of my first Supra had a ‘87 GN and it was such an amazing car. His wife had one as well. I was impressed beyond belief with not only their incredible taste in cars, but also with how incredibly kind, knowledgeable and generous they were.
I really enjoyed the shock/spring demonstration, as well! I love how educational, entertaining and inspiring your videos are! Please keep up the amazing work!
For me it is 1968 396 Beaumont, my dad had a green one with a bench seat. Was one of my favorites as well I always wanted a 69 firebird
Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴. I have a plymouth as well. That's my baby project. Bought a crusty old 1960 savoy have been at it for two years now, replaced every single flat piece of floor in it. Only the trans tunnel was good. Handmade a section of the roof and the bottom of the quarter panels, have not done the doors and fenders yet since it can be taken of the car later and fixed. it will soon be a rolling restoration from then on. Ready to break in the new camshaft and get it moving now just needs some exhaust and fuel plumbing now.
Working on restoring a 1968 camaro and currently installing intererior/dash parts and have run into a poorly maintained wiring harness. Thankfully I caught this now. Getting ready to install new harness. Like you said " don't be in a hurry and do a little at a time" great words of wisdom
I myself had a 1970 Satellite back in the late 80’s early 90’s. Put a 440 6 Barrel in after I blew up the 383 racing a 69 Road Runner. It was a very smooth driving car , lived in an area that had some speed bumps, the torsion bars absorbed them so well I really never noticed them. If I still had it or got another one I would not Remove the Torsion Bars and go to coil overs. Good luck on your build will be fun to watch 😊
Awesome car and perfect idea as a nice solid driver. I'm working on an 85 jeep xj 2 door and yes the floor was gone lol but the unibody rails are mint so I'm currently welding in new floors and doing a nice off road camping rig for our family. I already have a brand new 6.5 lift on it and 35s so getting under it is a dream lol 😆
Whole frame rail. If you’re going to build your dream car, spend the money to make it right!!!!! Blow it completely apart and fix all of it. It’s your dream car!!! Make it awesome
65 GTO, and I grew up in this time. For me it's my favorite.
Crazy how times changed, my brother's first car in 1976 was a '68 GTX with a 440, 10 years later my first car was small enough to put in the trunk of the GTX!!!! My favorite car is a 1970 Super Bee!!!!!
As much as I am a chevy guy through and through. The Superbird is my all time favorite car.
Slant 6 torsion bars are the go to for old school drag racers. Better weight transfer on launch.
I would repair/patch the existing frame, yours is not bad at all.
I've always loved the corvette stingray and I'd argue it's still a muscle car. Challengers also tickle my fancy as they just look so mean with the square front.
I can’t believe this video doesn’t have more likes. I would patch the frame out the new QA 1 is going to put stress in different locations and you should be just fine QA 1 engineered that suspension to be better and eliminate issues like this. My current project is a 77 VW Bus with 2.5 out of a 2000 Forester and it’s getting ready for the first start.
good ol bolt joints. I think that's what the bus I rode to school as a kid had based on the ride quality.