Nice work again! I'm gonna stick with the Vader 3 Pro for now, probably, but some of these features are definitely impressive. For other folks reading, though - if you like the sound of this controller but don't need *quite* as many top tier features, the Vader 3 Pro has the hall effect sticks, the mechanical buttons, the sweet d-pad, the back paddles, and the software, pretty much all it's lacking is the adjustable stick tension and the pressure-adaptive triggers (though it does have a neat feature this one doesn't, which is that you can switch the triggers from analog to digital and back again, great if you're also going to pair it with a Switch, which has digital triggers anyhow), and costs a fair bit less than the Apex 4. Either way, Flydigi's doing a bang up job out there.
Wow thanks for this descriptive comment! I didn’t know the Vader 3 was this close in feature! I’ll try to see that I get a Vader 4 for review if/when it releases. Cheers!
The adaptive triggers on this can actually work as the Dual Sense. Under the trigger tab in the Flydigi software there is a list of games with a "Dual Sense" button. If you boot your games from that launcher it's gonna emulate the DS experience. But Flydigi has to add games to this list manually with updates, so if you want the feature working from day 1 when a new game drops, then you indeed need a Dual Sense on hand.
Right, I unfortunately didn't get it to work myself on the one game I tested (Dying Light 2), I will try it again mind you. It's not as seamless but I don't hold it against Flydigi, I totally get why that is. I find it impressive that they even have that feature to begin with. Mind if I ask you what games have you tested it on? And would you say it works as great as the native Dualsense stuff? Cheers
more and more people upload reviews for this controller, I know it's great, and I've already bought it. However, it's a pre-order, so I have to wait 30 days. 😭 I'm so impatient!
Yeah, I was told this has been selling like hotcakes. Well, good things come to those who wait and rest assured, this controller is all good and great, no less!
@@MudyMax very good so far, put it on 0 deadzone on COD and no stick drift, i charged it the first day and have been using it wireless for 3 days now it’s not dead yet
Yeah it's a beast that one, enjoy and my best advice for the days to come, dare to customize it to your taste, especially by using profiles to match certain features to activate and de-activate. As long as you have that "quick profile change" feature activated, it's crazy just how granular it can get to maximize your gaming experience! Cheers! :)
i buy one on aliexpress , i waiting for arrive , sold a dualsense edge for money , couple months ago. And i saw a very nice comments and reviews for this controller. Can´t wait !! ajajaj .
Have had the Black Myth Wukong Apex 4 for 2 weeks now. Definitely an improvement for competitive over the standard one. 2000hz polling rate and Aluminum Halleffect rocker thumbsticks
Just to make sure, I edited the video but it might not be up yet. They are Hall effect, I misunderstood a comparison chart. The video should be adjusted shortly and I have a PSA pinned comment. Cheers and thanks!
I just came over from the Mamba review. It's funny; I went from not knowing that screens in a controller were a thing (Dreamcast VMUs and that one Hyperkin remake of the Xbox Duke excluded) to seeing two in one evening. This is an innovation I can get behind. Have you heard of the Rick Astley Paradox? If you ask him to borrow his DVD copy of everyone's favorite Pixar movie that stars a crotchety old man and a talking dog he won't let you. He's never gonna give you "Up", but, by not giving you "Up" he contradicts his promise, made in the very next line of the song, to not let you down.
Got mine worked for one night. Tried to change the gif on the screen and it completely bugged the controller. Now all buttons register as d-pad up which is crazy. Returning it to Amazon tomorrow
I'm starting to wonder if they have a defective batch or something, someone mentioned something about not being able to change the gif like 2-3 days ago, first time these comments came in since the video's been out. Sorry you're going through this, glad you can return it!
Could you make a video on how to configure the macros? Bunny hop in COD would be phenomenal! I subscribed to your channel in anticipation of the tutorial. Thanks and have a blessed day.
Maybe a shorts ought to do it? As for how to bunny hop, I don't play COD so I wouldn't have a single idea where to start sorry but that video? That's a good idea actually. Thanks for the sub, stay tuned!
@@GameTechTalk Bunny hop would be spamming the "A" button as fast as you can. Once I see the basics I could fine-tune it. LOL, I just need a starting point to work off of =)
@@riosecco4142 That brings me back to good old CS days (I'm old). It might be achievable because you can adjust timings between inputs on the software. I'll pay attention to it. Thanks again for the suggestion!
@@GameTechTalk Haha, me too. 57 here. Tech is tough when you didn't grow up with it. Hence, the needing a starting point, lol. Once I see how it is done I can figure the rest out. I just need a little help getting started =)
@@riosecco4142 I gotchu @riosecco4142, in fact, I'm even more motivated now to get this done. To not forget, I have added it to my production timeline and I'll respond back to this when it's done. I'll need a bit of patience but... I GOTCHU! Cheers and good day to you 😁
This controller is amazing! I got one yesterday best controller iv had, I just need to find out how the gif size to make my own as the site for the community ones are in Chinese, great review🔥
do you know if I can enable trigger vibration for all games, like the xbox controllers have, or do the triggers only vibrate for games compatible with adaptive trigger?
@@Henrique-wv9xq Neither or. The behavior of those triggers are on a different "haptic data" than the ones on the Xbox controller and while the technology is the same as Dualsense, they don't have access to Sony's proprietary "haptic data". So in other words, you need to set it up yourself or use some of the community based adaptive trigger integrations. Maybe there is a software out there to utilise them to tap into the Dualsense haptic feedback from Sony's but if there is, I'm not aware of such a software's existence. Also, keep in mind the rumble of the controller itself is rotary motors, not "HD rumble" like what the actual dualsense has. Edit: That's why this controller will give you an amazing experience, as long as you customize it to your liking, it's kind of a necessity but if you do? It's amazing!
I'd say the TB is a bit more comfortable and slightly better feeling in terms of texture throughout the controller. But it's a very very small difference and dare I say, small enough to the point that it wouldn't matter much in my decision. Cheers! :)
im looking to get Flydigi Apex 4 or Xbox Elite Series 2. I want the best that will last me long ( ex 4-5 yrs). Im just a casual gamer and will be using a controller for pc for playing 2K or other titles like Elden Ring and alike. Budget not a problem, what would be the best for me?
Quite frankly, Sony got the PS5 market looked down extremely tight. There is little to no options on that front and the ones that do exist like HYPR and Scuf are quite costly.
@@nofacenocase160 Never bought Scuf or HYPR. I’m not a strong believer in that type of enterprise. I saw some pretty big names back HYPR, Bob Wulff comes to mind but yeah. Maybe one day, who knows.
So how would you compare this to the Turtle Beach Stealth? I love the features on this but not sure about the rear buttons. I saw a video of a guy that makes paddle replacements for it though
I hardly play on my Series X and so, an Xbox controller is not something I necessarily need but if I was a controller player on FPSes, I'd see the value in the Stealth Ultra, mainly due to the Superhuman hearing feature but also, that it has proper hair triggers. I'm more of a PC indie games kind of guy, that's why since reviewing it, my go-to by default is the Apex 4, I don't see that changing but who's to say what next controller will knock at my door. Saw a photo of the paddle replacements on Reddit, looks cool! I'd try it if I could get my hands on them but I don't think the controller necessarily needs them, at least for my own take on the ergonomics. Cheers!
Yeah I have my Elite 2 for Xbox but your review convinced me to order the Turtle Beach to try on Xbox. I was thinking the Apex would be my go to for PC and Switch. I'll wait to see your NYXI review but seriously considering trying the Apex
Looking into this controller cause your recommendation. Currently making an evangelion based mobile PC set up and guess what has a Eva special edition 🙌 thanks for the recommendation fr.
Ohhhh I'm so jealous right nowwwww!!! Nice, it'll look glorious! And this controller will SHOCK you, you will have not expected this level of quality and reliability from a third party believe me. Such is the world that we live in, a lot of companies are going the extra length to create a brand that will last a lifetime and Flydigi may not have the marketing push that Gulikit did but I assure you, they are in every possible way just as badass and that controller can easily rival Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. It's that good.
Hey man great video! 2 questions for you. What does the multifunction remapping allow you to do? And also does the macro function record exact joystick movements? Or just full presses of buttons and 100% deflection of a stick in a direction?
The multifonction remapping which effectively is macro let's you record up to 64 inputs and between each input, you can set/adjust the timing and it will also be recorded when you set it. That feature also works with keyboard, not just the controller itself. As for sticks movement, it does but it is not the entire 360 degrees, it locks to 8-directions, which I have never seen a macro tool do any better to be honest so I wouldn't take anything away from the Apex 4, that's industry standard pretty much. If you have anymore questions, don't hesitate! :)
@@GameTechTalk I understand there is a macro function on the remapping tab but I’m asking what the “multifunction” tab under that is for? There is 4 options: remap, turbo, macro, and multifunction. Also if I choose to pick up on the left joystick while creating a macro will it actually know how much deflection I put on my still while recording? Or is it just 100 percent deflection based on the amount of time I set it for?
@@MrDoordude125I just re-read myself and clearly I was having a "brain checked-out" moment when I responded 😅, my bad! So multifunction is actually to map mouse keys to your buttons, just that. And also, for macros, you can't macro your keyboard keys, not can, again my bad. But you can map buttons and make commands by hitting multiple keys like say Alt+Tab. Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk thanks that answered one question. But the second question about the macro recording exactly joystick deflections ? Like can you choose how much deflection in the upward direction? Or is it just 100 percent deflection based on a length of time you can pick ?
@@MrDoordude125 It's 0 to 100%, no in-between. Basically, think that while yeah, it'll register the sticks, it will translate the readings to something more akin to d-pad push (though it will register as the sticks). It'd be great to have something so granular built-in in software but I don't recall having seen that outside of complex AutoHotkey scripts or an old school software called xPadder (if I recall). Cheers!
I wanted to get this until I found out the buttons are clicky. I'm looking for a controller with hall effect sticks and triggers, and buttons and dpad that feel great. this would've been it if the buttons weren't clicky. do you have any recommendations?
If you don’t mind going wired, I have a review coming out of the G7 SE. Very robust solution, same with the Kaleid Flux, if you want Hall effect and membrane buttons😘
@@TyrellW It's a little harder as mechanical seems to be so common nowadays. But without a doubt, if you want hall-effect, wireless and membrane, the GuliKit KK controllers are probably your best bet. I'd say KK3 Pro is amazing value but if you want the top of line, the KK3 Max is the one currently. They have another one in the works, the KK3 Ultra but I feel like that one will go mechanical, it's not released yet.
I have a question, I see in all the reviews the input latency being praised of this controller, but on the gamepadle website, the cable latency for the flydigi apex4 appears to be twice as high as the dual sense. Is this correct? What are your thoughts on that? Because when I see youtubers testing with xinput, the flydigi apex4 scores better every time?
Apex 4 and Dualsense Edge poll about the same. When overclocked so does the regular Dualsense. As much as I will praise the Apex 4, I do question the legitimacy of the prioprietary app for benchmarking and in my opinion, the numbers there are inflated to look just a smidge better than the actual numbers. It doesn’t take much away if at all but to claim it is higher than Dualsense is putting very specific parameters to showcase that as being factual when it can also be very easily addressed.
@@GameTechTalk Hm okay, but what is your thoughts then on the fact that the latency on gamepadla is twice as high for the apex4 compared to the dual sense?
@@TriszSZN Basically that there are too many variables in play. While yes, you can take numbers as an overall indicator, you can’t fully consider them if they are not each tested following the exact same parameters. To be more technical, the numbers can only matter if every controllers are tested in the exact same environment, using the exact same methodology. While that set of numbers won’t necessarily represent the entire market, they at least will showcase the “variability factor”. With that said, I can tell you that the Apex 4 gave me ever so slightly less latency then the Dualsense Edge. Not enough to matter, not enough to say the Apex 4 is “better” even though the numbers technically are. Last, if you overclock past 1000hz, you also decrease latency, but you introduce way more jitter and misreads. So if you see Dualsense latency being 0.5ms or around (maybe even less), that’s basically an overclocked Dualsense that will suffer from other problems because of it. Singled out, any number can look good. I hope this helps, cheers!
I got my controller today, everything worked fine but the screen default GIF just froze and i cant change it with the software. I always get an error code and on the controller it says 2/17 uploading. need help :(
That seems unusual. The .gif has an update firmware for it in the software, I would assume you already tried? Flydigi have an official discord, I'd recommend trying to see if you can get some support. The invite link is good for 24hrs: discord.gg/nkPMyDMG
how good is adjusting dead zones for joysticks? i play a game and i rather use a controller than keyboard and mouse but the game requires precise joystick moments. the controller i use now its deadzone and the joysticks kinda suck, for one the joystick is stiff so trying to lightly move it i have to put alot of pressure which overshoots my movement at times.
It's very good. The best in fact because you have a mix of both deadzone adjustments but also resistance tweaking that is hardware based, all that on hall-sensing tech. This way you can have a very "loose" stick on the left because it's basic movements, but have a much stiffer stick on the right with lower deadzones specifically for precise camera movements. As it stands, there is no better option in terms of customization for PC. That includes the super elite controllers from first party and licensed third party solutions. Last, the Apex 4 does more than those for half the price. It's a no brainer if you want the pinnacle of customization elite style controller.
There is no reason why it can’t be feasible, the amount of work required may differ but logically speaking on this one, you could probably just remove the faceplate and cut the metal rod. That would already be a good chunk to of weight shaved off but opening it and removing the motor would be of greater impact. There may be de-soldering involved, in fact, pretty certain it’ll be necessary.
thanks for the vid i bought the apex 4 on aliexpress für 90€. i like the controller so far. I had 360 controller xbox one controller ps5 dual sense and a MS Elite 2 Controller
@@cloudconnected7008 It does go on sleep mode even if on at times. I know it's very basic advice but I would suggest putting it off, plug it 30mins so that it charges a bit and try putting it back on. If that doesn't work I'd suggest reaching out to Flydigi, maybe you'd have to disconnect and reconnect the battery...
You’re right, I just mentioned that the software lets you be more granular but I didn’t show examples of how granular that can be and how that can look like. Cheers
The controller’s software has the ability to copy or even use flydigi made addaptive triggers for games i found it after literal minutes in their software
Out of the three you named, Apex 4. With that said, people have recently been reporting sticks breaking when playing with them at max tightness. So use that feature with a bit of caution.
@@alaa4208 I mean, it's also very relative to budget and if you're gonna play wired or not. I do have a video where I break down 20 controllers and my recommendations, I'd probably suggest watching that. Otherwise, X10 Mechanic is a very well rounded solution to see how you feel about "pro" features without having to pay the "pro" pricetag. It's also readily available and EasySMX have been very reliable overall. I'd start there and potentially move up, move down or stay there based off of how you feel with the X10. Cheers!
do you know if there's an option to have trigger vibration (like on the xbox controllers) for all games or does it just do trigger vibration when adaptive triggers are compatible for a game?
It does not do either of them. Most controllers that work for PC are on the older protocol of Microsoft's X-Input and I may be wrong but I don't believe that "non-licensed" controllers have "hacked" into the One/Series layer which adds the rumble mapping for triggers. That's why, as far as I know, any controller that actually have triggers vibrating are either Microsoft's or officially licensed Microsoft's alternatives (that supports that feature). It's basically the same situation with the Dualsense controller. The Apex uses "spoofing" methods which rely on Xbox 360 protocol, but they also have Nintendo's Switch Pro protocol. So by not having Dualsense's proper protocol, they do not have adaptive trigger mapping, but the controller does have the technology, you just have to set it yourself. It's a cool feature but the compatibility in-games is greatly reduced and also community based solutions. If trigger rumble is important for you, I'd recommend looking into Gamesir's G7se or Kaleid for Xbox or Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra for Xbox. Cheers!
Totally, I haven't played much fighting games lately but this can do just as great if not better due to it's mechanical buttons, phenomenal polling rate and latency but we're talking milliseconds in terms of advantage.
@@GameTechTalk you're totally Right, and in the highest level of competition, milliseconds can be the difference between winning or losing. Btw, can you input records(macros) like the KK3 max?
@hackeropolus You can and dare I say, it does a far better job than the KK3 Max for macro'ing. Up to 64 inputs, timing addressable and can be mapped to paddles (or buttons too I believe) all that managed through software... It literally is night and day just how better that it is!
@@GameTechTalk so, i got my apex 4 controller, and i can't do the macro thing, i would like to know if you're able to do it, because the option is there in the menu, it's just like it's unavailable. thanks in advance man
I only have ps3 and phone , is good for this controller or .. i dont know .. i dont feel nice in ps3 and phone , include the vibration is off in android
So Android is starting to see some vibration, depends what you play but it's not part of Android natively, since 12 if I recall. With that said, it's still not widely adopted. It's definitely good for phone, especially if you get the mount. For PS3, I don't think it's compatible unless you use a dongle that would spoof the controller. Maybe an 8BitDo dongle might work?
Yeeeahhh! I've seen some Digifly with 2 rows of 3 buttons, kind of like the old SEGA ones. I didn't realize that was C and Z, that's cool! I'll have to try one one of those days. Cheers!
Does anyone know how to use it on Xbox Series X wirelessly? No one made a clear video on how to go about it, just that it's able to. Ppl say to use a Brook Wingman Xb3 to use it wired but I want to stay wireless.
To use it on the Series X, you need an adapter of some kind, unfortunately, I do not know any in particular to recommend but I do know it is a possibility, though it requires external tools. As for wireless specifically, wouldn't the dongle work in the Brook Wingman Xb3? I would think so. Sorry as I don't have more to offer at this point in time, cheers and good luck!
Hi, I really need your help. Many owners of Flydigi apex 4 have a problem with the left stick breaking, and there are no replacement modules on sale. Maybe if you write to this company, they will listen and change their mind about selling modules. Put a like so that he sees it. Thanks
That's a great question and one for which I actually had to go test for. So safe to say it's on the PC where the software is installed only. When connecting over bluetooth, it gives you two options: native or mapping, and while mapping preserves some on-board memory settings, keyboard inputs do not carry over. Tested on iOS, on Android and on another PC. Cheers!
they should add flick stick to the software aswell. But i already asked them. this is the ony thing i miss from the software. and also the reason why i use rewasd with flydigi controllers.
I did, all was fine. Now keep in mind, the trigger rumble that you get from the regular Xbox controller, I don't believe that works on the Apex 4. That's an Xbox specific feature. The technology that the Apex 4 has in the triggers is not the same. Also, the adaptive triggers do not work in conjunction to what happens in game, at least not by default, that's a feature that is community driven, some games are supported, many aren't. If you haven't downloaded the PC software, I strongly encourage that you do, it'll give you a better overall view of what's possible and what's not. Cheers!
One downside is the same as the apex 3 you should seriously avoid playing intensely in those moments of hard grip and stress though the controller body is solid the buttons wear out pretty quickly and if you are an intense player you'll find after a month of regular use that some buttons won't respond 😉 a repeating problem for me that has never occurred for me on any x box or ps Gen factory controller and even some cheap controllers have had better button support it's just a very expensive controller for people not to know this fact about it that no one seems to want to talk about
Testers and promoters don't seem to be actually using these controllers enough to know or after they made the promotions they and found the problems just don't seem to care about them as long as they get the views and premature feedback
I’m sure none of us are trying to mislead people and I sure game with my Apex 4, in my opinion quite a lot, but I do have to swap every now and then to test and make my reviews. With that said, I pay close attention to buyers to get the pulse and indeed, when I reviewed, no one was reporting errors then but it since have come out of the woodwork that there is some QC issues. Didn’t Flydigi openly addressed it and apologized. AFAIK, they seem to be doing better than most in terms of customer service but the best situation would be far less defects.
PC, Switch, Android and iOS. Xbox will not work unless it is used with one of those adapters to render external controllers useable on the console. And you're very welcome, happy to help! :)
Have you tried connecting it via MacBook? My Xbox controller works flawlessly on the Mac so I’m wondering if this is the same.. it’s either that or pay double for a scuf.
Honestly? Not really. You're not missing out with the Edge, arguably overclocking it is overkill too. The dev of the software said himself that going past 1000mhz is pointless and can introduce issues so he removed it in an updated software version. But yeah, the features you'd get from the Apex 4 over the Edge are not necessary enough to warrant the purchase. With that said, if you need say a stupidly powerful Switch controller, or a mobile phone controller? Yeah, bringing the Apex 4 into your life would also be a great solution. I go back and forth between Edge and Apex 4 for PC, only controllers that I keep next to it and if they were the same price, I wouldn't know which to pick cause I like rumble so much and the Edge just is better for that. For everything else? Apex 4, but not by a lot.
Oh, I release myself of any responsabilities! 😅 All kidding aside of course, I'm glad you see value in my content, thanks! I still advise pacing ourselves with purchases though... This gaming hardware business is booming like crazy! A new company every week almost! I never thought I'd be reviewing so many controllers, amongst other things!
No it does not. Those are all software-based corrections and on-the-fly adjustments built with self-learning modules. I don't think we've ever seen a controller have such a feature integrated in the controller itself but if it exists, I have yet to ever see or hear about such a product, outside of Cronus Max, XIM and the likes. Cheers
I definitely am jealous right now. From what I understand, it was overly complicated to get it outside China, not impossible, but still not simple either. Well, enjoy because it is an amazing controller to begin with and the EVA version is SO PRETTY!!!!!! Congrats
Daaammnnnn!! Whether that was intentional or not, there's definitely a compliment in there and I'll take it! I'm the latter, arguably the new "old" is much older than I am but I definitely do not qualify as young anymore, I was alive when the Super Nintendo was released and I'm old enough to remember it and the TV ads! So THANKS! 😂
Hey bro, Great Video! Only one like it! I've been looking for a controller for sim racing. The PS5 standard controller is what I'm currently using but have been in the market for a controller that has both the ability to have adaptive triggers and tension adjustment on the sticks for more precise driving. Would this be the best controller to buy for what I'm looking for? Thanks bro! New Sub coming your way!
Thanks for the kind words! I mean not only is it the best controller, one could argue that it is the only one unless you can bend a Dualsense to your will. At this point, I don't know if we'll see more companies tackle this tech but even with Flydigi, I certainly wonder if they had to reverse engineer Sony's solution because it feels exactly like what the Dualsense feels like. Anyway, I'm getting sidetracked, the answer is yes, it definitely is and you are also getting the absolute best controller on the market right now. You simply can't go wrong.
@@GameTechTalk Dude! Great response! Thank you for your help. Anyway I can get you a kick back from the company as I'm buying it because of your video/ recommendation?
@@derfreshprince2281 Wow thank you! Whenever you are ready to buy, if you use the links on the videos, as they are affiliate, I'll get a small kickback. Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk perfect bro, worked like a charm! It just arrived. 3 days earlier than expected! Just had a quick question on adaptive triggers, I understand if the game is supported it will be on desktop app but what about the games that are not listed? Anyways way I can make that happen? I'm trying to play F1.
@@derfreshprince2281 I'm sorry to say I do not know. The fact that every custom description is in Chinese, I assume Flydigi have a closed knit group of fanbase developers that come up with their own and share it through the app? What I would recommend if you'd like to create your own "per game profile" is to start in their Discord, you might have some luck there! Here's an invite that should be good for 7 days, cheers! discord.gg/EprTdu9X
It is Ender Magnolia, which is a sequel title (in series, not story) to Ender Lilies. It's currently in early access set to go 1.0 some time late this year or early next year if I recall. Great game, about 1h30m to 2h worth of content for the time being. I'd suggest picking up Ender of Lillies, it's a phenomenal title!
I can’t help you much but there are adapters sold to convert signal to allow non-compatible controllers to work. However, these products are often used to cheat so they can get you banned among other things and they can also get patched out by Sony as they are not officially licensed. Otherwise, this controller is not compatible with PS5 by default.
Hey Timzy! Yeah it does have macro ability for back buttons, in fact, Flydigi's software allows you to fully customize every buttons on the controller. Cheers!
Try AliExpress, they do sell out from time to time, it's a very popular product but as long as you keep your eyes peeled, you'll find it quickly enough!
It's nice that there is a solution shipping to Canada to buy it, but that price is thicc!! So pretty that Eva though... Thanks for showing me this website!
A bit disappointed with the usb port. For this price point it should be a cavity port. Basically indented so if you play wired it doesn’t cause wear and tear on the port
By failing do you mean the shape of the raw input being a diamond? Or do you mean like some sort of drifting of the inputs? Thanks for the heads up, I'll research this some more!
PSA: A portion of the video has been edited out due to an error on my part. To specify, both triggers and sticks are hall effect based.
Nice work again! I'm gonna stick with the Vader 3 Pro for now, probably, but some of these features are definitely impressive. For other folks reading, though - if you like the sound of this controller but don't need *quite* as many top tier features, the Vader 3 Pro has the hall effect sticks, the mechanical buttons, the sweet d-pad, the back paddles, and the software, pretty much all it's lacking is the adjustable stick tension and the pressure-adaptive triggers (though it does have a neat feature this one doesn't, which is that you can switch the triggers from analog to digital and back again, great if you're also going to pair it with a Switch, which has digital triggers anyhow), and costs a fair bit less than the Apex 4. Either way, Flydigi's doing a bang up job out there.
Wow thanks for this descriptive comment! I didn’t know the Vader 3 was this close in feature! I’ll try to see that I get a Vader 4 for review if/when it releases. Cheers!
The adaptive triggers on this can actually work as the Dual Sense.
Under the trigger tab in the Flydigi software there is a list of games with a "Dual Sense" button. If you boot your games from that launcher it's gonna emulate the DS experience. But Flydigi has to add games to this list manually with updates, so if you want the feature working from day 1 when a new game drops, then you indeed need a Dual Sense on hand.
Right, I unfortunately didn't get it to work myself on the one game I tested (Dying Light 2), I will try it again mind you. It's not as seamless but I don't hold it against Flydigi, I totally get why that is. I find it impressive that they even have that feature to begin with. Mind if I ask you what games have you tested it on? And would you say it works as great as the native Dualsense stuff? Cheers
Bro this guy knows his stuff. Great Video. I just got one of these and it is the best controller ever. Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub, and the kind words! More importantly, thank you for being part of this journey! :)
more and more people upload reviews for this controller, I know it's great, and I've already bought it. However, it's a pre-order, so I have to wait 30 days. 😭 I'm so impatient!
Yeah, I was told this has been selling like hotcakes. Well, good things come to those who wait and rest assured, this controller is all good and great, no less!
and you have it now_
mine comes in this week i’m excited
@@devanlolll How is it?
@@MudyMax very good so far, put it on 0 deadzone on COD and no stick drift, i charged it the first day and have been using it wireless for 3 days now it’s not dead yet
I just got my Apex 4 haven't used all the software and features yet but straight out of the box, it's pretty awesome, can't wait to mess with it more
Yeah it's a beast that one, enjoy and my best advice for the days to come, dare to customize it to your taste, especially by using profiles to match certain features to activate and de-activate.
As long as you have that "quick profile change" feature activated, it's crazy just how granular it can get to maximize your gaming experience! Cheers! :)
i buy one on aliexpress , i waiting for arrive , sold a dualsense edge for money , couple months ago.
And i saw a very nice comments and reviews for this controller. Can´t wait !! ajajaj .
It is an awesome PC controller, I think you will greatly like it! Thanks for engaging with me :)
Have had the Black Myth Wukong Apex 4 for 2 weeks now. Definitely an improvement for competitive over the standard one. 2000hz polling rate and Aluminum Halleffect rocker thumbsticks
I was going to order it, I was certain that I did and then realized I didn't. I decided to sit this one out but it certainly looks AWESOME!
First off i really appreciate your in-depth reviews and updates on best products. Wil there be a follow up for the Wukong edition of the Apex 4?
Funny you should ask, yes there will be as they should be sending one for review very shortly.
@GameTechTalk Awesome!!! Looking forward to it. Appreciate your reviews👍👍👍
The tension is absolutely everything. No more needing to break in a controller.
I like how you're concerned about the price when Scuf owners brag about paying $200+ lol
Just received it it’s a certified banger
Preach! 🙌 This controller is so feature packed, very little is missing, if at all. Cheers!
Just my Apex 4 today and all I can say is 💯💯.
Let's gooooooo!!
Hello , have you tried using it on pc via bluetooth without the dongle?
Thank Heavens bro!! Was looking on Ali ( thanks btw ) but was wondering about the sensors!
Just to make sure, I edited the video but it might not be up yet. They are Hall effect, I misunderstood a comparison chart. The video should be adjusted shortly and I have a PSA pinned comment. Cheers and thanks!
It's the best controller I've ever used and I've tested many of the best. Nothing compares. Can't wait to get my Vader 4!
You and I both! Excited to "put it through the test" as they say!
I just came over from the Mamba review. It's funny; I went from not knowing that screens in a controller were a thing (Dreamcast VMUs and that one Hyperkin remake of the Xbox Duke excluded) to seeing two in one evening. This is an innovation I can get behind.
Have you heard of the Rick Astley Paradox? If you ask him to borrow his DVD copy of everyone's favorite Pixar movie that stars a crotchety old man and a talking dog he won't let you. He's never gonna give you "Up", but, by not giving you "Up" he contradicts his promise, made in the very next line of the song, to not let you down.
😂😂😂 I may never watch "Up" the same again!
great quality video btw!
Thank you greatly!
Got mine worked for one night. Tried to change the gif on the screen and it completely bugged the controller. Now all buttons register as d-pad up which is crazy. Returning it to Amazon tomorrow
I'm starting to wonder if they have a defective batch or something, someone mentioned something about not being able to change the gif like 2-3 days ago, first time these comments came in since the video's been out. Sorry you're going through this, glad you can return it!
Could you make a video on how to configure the macros? Bunny hop in COD would be phenomenal! I subscribed to your channel in anticipation of the tutorial. Thanks and have a blessed day.
Maybe a shorts ought to do it? As for how to bunny hop, I don't play COD so I wouldn't have a single idea where to start sorry but that video? That's a good idea actually. Thanks for the sub, stay tuned!
@@GameTechTalk Bunny hop would be spamming the "A" button as fast as you can. Once I see the basics I could fine-tune it. LOL, I just need a starting point to work off of =)
@@riosecco4142 That brings me back to good old CS days (I'm old). It might be achievable because you can adjust timings between inputs on the software. I'll pay attention to it. Thanks again for the suggestion!
@@GameTechTalk Haha, me too. 57 here. Tech is tough when you didn't grow up with it. Hence, the needing a starting point, lol. Once I see how it is done I can figure the rest out. I just need a little help getting started =)
@@riosecco4142 I gotchu @riosecco4142, in fact, I'm even more motivated now to get this done. To not forget, I have added it to my production timeline and I'll respond back to this when it's done. I'll need a bit of patience but... I GOTCHU! Cheers and good day to you 😁
Came for the controller stayed for the Rick roll.
hehehe 😊
This controller is amazing! I got one yesterday best controller iv had, I just need to find out how the gif size to make my own as the site for the community ones are in Chinese, great review🔥
Thank you for the kind words and I’m with you on the Apex 4, it is amazing!
@@GameTechTalk your most welcome 🙏
do you know if I can enable trigger vibration for all games, like the xbox controllers have, or do the triggers only vibrate for games compatible with adaptive trigger?
@@Henrique-wv9xq Neither or. The behavior of those triggers are on a different "haptic data" than the ones on the Xbox controller and while the technology is the same as Dualsense, they don't have access to Sony's proprietary "haptic data". So in other words, you need to set it up yourself or use some of the community based adaptive trigger integrations.
Maybe there is a software out there to utilise them to tap into the Dualsense haptic feedback from Sony's but if there is, I'm not aware of such a software's existence. Also, keep in mind the rumble of the controller itself is rotary motors, not "HD rumble" like what the actual dualsense has.
Edit: That's why this controller will give you an amazing experience, as long as you customize it to your liking, it's kind of a necessity but if you do? It's amazing!
what the camera bro?? amazing
Thanks, I shoot mainly with an FX30 but I also use a ZV-E10 for angles and every now and then, an iPhone too.
Which is better apex 4 or turtle beach controller?
I'd say the TB is a bit more comfortable and slightly better feeling in terms of texture throughout the controller. But it's a very very small difference and dare I say, small enough to the point that it wouldn't matter much in my decision. Cheers! :)
im looking to get Flydigi Apex 4 or Xbox Elite Series 2. I want the best that will last me long ( ex 4-5 yrs).
Im just a casual gamer and will be using a controller for pc for playing 2K or other titles like Elden Ring and alike.
Budget not a problem, what would be the best for me?
Apex 4 and the extra you'll save from the Elite Series 2, get the paddle aftermarket solution for the Apex 4. Cheers!
Same
I play story games and want to buy a joystick. Which one should I choose between apex 4 and vader 4 pro?
I think Vader 4 Pro due to the extra buttons, should be the best pick for everyday non-competitive gaming.
That controller is so pretty. 😍
Look up the Eva edition if you want to melt down. Maybe not your aesthetic vibe but dang is it ever so pretty!!
@@GameTechTalk it’s pretty!! Who doesn’t like mecha?
Thx for the video but do you have a ps5 alternative?❤
Quite frankly, Sony got the PS5 market looked down extremely tight. There is little to no options on that front and the ones that do exist like HYPR and Scuf are quite costly.
@@GameTechTalk In every YT video about HYPR I see bad comments about the quality when they receive the controller or the bad customer service
@@nofacenocase160 Never bought Scuf or HYPR. I’m not a strong believer in that type of enterprise. I saw some pretty big names back HYPR, Bob Wulff comes to mind but yeah. Maybe one day, who knows.
So how would you compare this to the Turtle Beach Stealth? I love the features on this but not sure about the rear buttons. I saw a video of a guy that makes paddle replacements for it though
I hardly play on my Series X and so, an Xbox controller is not something I necessarily need but if I was a controller player on FPSes, I'd see the value in the Stealth Ultra, mainly due to the Superhuman hearing feature but also, that it has proper hair triggers. I'm more of a PC indie games kind of guy, that's why since reviewing it, my go-to by default is the Apex 4, I don't see that changing but who's to say what next controller will knock at my door.
Saw a photo of the paddle replacements on Reddit, looks cool! I'd try it if I could get my hands on them but I don't think the controller necessarily needs them, at least for my own take on the ergonomics. Cheers!
Yeah I have my Elite 2 for Xbox but your review convinced me to order the Turtle Beach to try on Xbox. I was thinking the Apex would be my go to for PC and Switch. I'll wait to see your NYXI review but seriously considering trying the Apex
Looking into this controller cause your recommendation. Currently making an evangelion based mobile PC set up and guess what has a Eva special edition 🙌 thanks for the recommendation fr.
Does it feel like a stock controller or one of those hollow feeling cheap ones?
Ohhhh I'm so jealous right nowwwww!!! Nice, it'll look glorious! And this controller will SHOCK you, you will have not expected this level of quality and reliability from a third party believe me. Such is the world that we live in, a lot of companies are going the extra length to create a brand that will last a lifetime and Flydigi may not have the marketing push that Gulikit did but I assure you, they are in every possible way just as badass and that controller can easily rival Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. It's that good.
@@GameTechTalk bet. Thanks again for a sense of direction when looking at new controllers
Hey man great video! 2 questions for you. What does the multifunction remapping allow you to do? And also does the macro function record exact joystick movements? Or just full presses of buttons and 100% deflection of a stick in a direction?
The multifonction remapping which effectively is macro let's you record up to 64 inputs and between each input, you can set/adjust the timing and it will also be recorded when you set it. That feature also works with keyboard, not just the controller itself. As for sticks movement, it does but it is not the entire 360 degrees, it locks to 8-directions, which I have never seen a macro tool do any better to be honest so I wouldn't take anything away from the Apex 4, that's industry standard pretty much. If you have anymore questions, don't hesitate! :)
@@GameTechTalk I understand there is a macro function on the remapping tab but I’m asking what the “multifunction” tab under that is for? There is 4 options: remap, turbo, macro, and multifunction.
Also if I choose to pick up on the left joystick while creating a macro will it actually know how much deflection I put on my still while recording? Or is it just 100 percent deflection based on the amount of time I set it for?
@@MrDoordude125I just re-read myself and clearly I was having a "brain checked-out" moment when I responded 😅, my bad! So multifunction is actually to map mouse keys to your buttons, just that. And also, for macros, you can't macro your keyboard keys, not can, again my bad. But you can map buttons and make commands by hitting multiple keys like say Alt+Tab. Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk thanks that answered one question. But the second question about the macro recording exactly joystick deflections ? Like can you choose how much deflection in the upward direction? Or is it just 100 percent deflection based on a length of time you can pick ?
@@MrDoordude125 It's 0 to 100%, no in-between. Basically, think that while yeah, it'll register the sticks, it will translate the readings to something more akin to d-pad push (though it will register as the sticks).
It'd be great to have something so granular built-in in software but I don't recall having seen that outside of complex AutoHotkey scripts or an old school software called xPadder (if I recall). Cheers!
I wanted to get this until I found out the buttons are clicky.
I'm looking for a controller with hall effect sticks and triggers, and buttons and dpad that feel great. this would've been it if the buttons weren't clicky.
do you have any recommendations?
If you don’t mind going wired, I have a review coming out of the G7 SE. Very robust solution, same with the Kaleid Flux, if you want Hall effect and membrane buttons😘
@@GameTechTalk oh I want wireless, but thank you anyway. I might've actually gone for the G7 if it wasn't wired
@@TyrellW It's a little harder as mechanical seems to be so common nowadays. But without a doubt, if you want hall-effect, wireless and membrane, the GuliKit KK controllers are probably your best bet. I'd say KK3 Pro is amazing value but if you want the top of line, the KK3 Max is the one currently. They have another one in the works, the KK3 Ultra but I feel like that one will go mechanical, it's not released yet.
I have a question, I see in all the reviews the input latency being praised of this controller, but on the gamepadle website, the cable latency for the flydigi apex4 appears to be twice as high as the dual sense. Is this correct? What are your thoughts on that? Because when I see youtubers testing with xinput, the flydigi apex4 scores better every time?
Apex 4 and Dualsense Edge poll about the same. When overclocked so does the regular Dualsense. As much as I will praise the Apex 4, I do question the legitimacy of the prioprietary app for benchmarking and in my opinion, the numbers there are inflated to look just a smidge better than the actual numbers. It doesn’t take much away if at all but to claim it is higher than Dualsense is putting very specific parameters to showcase that as being factual when it can also be very easily addressed.
@@GameTechTalk Hm okay, but what is your thoughts then on the fact that the latency on gamepadla is twice as high for the apex4 compared to the dual sense?
@@TriszSZN Basically that there are too many variables in play. While yes, you can take numbers as an overall indicator, you can’t fully consider them if they are not each tested following the exact same parameters. To be more technical, the numbers can only matter if every controllers are tested in the exact same environment, using the exact same methodology. While that set of numbers won’t necessarily represent the entire market, they at least will showcase the “variability factor”. With that said, I can tell you that the Apex 4 gave me ever so slightly less latency then the Dualsense Edge. Not enough to matter, not enough to say the Apex 4 is “better” even though the numbers technically are.
Last, if you overclock past 1000hz, you also decrease latency, but you introduce way more jitter and misreads. So if you see Dualsense latency being 0.5ms or around (maybe even less), that’s basically an overclocked Dualsense that will suffer from other problems because of it. Singled out, any number can look good. I hope this helps, cheers!
I love it. I'm in. F yeah.
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I got my controller today, everything worked fine but the screen default GIF just froze and i cant change it with the software. I always get an error code and on the controller it says 2/17 uploading. need help :(
That seems unusual. The .gif has an update firmware for it in the software, I would assume you already tried? Flydigi have an official discord, I'd recommend trying to see if you can get some support. The invite link is good for 24hrs: discord.gg/nkPMyDMG
On the part of the controller where the USB C port is there is a slot for attaching something. What is that for?
That is to attach a phone mount, there are probably packs out there on AliExpress that sells kits with them included.
@@GameTechTalk Thanks, that makes sense. I was headscratching that since I got my Apex last month
how good is adjusting dead zones for joysticks? i play a game and i rather use a controller than keyboard and mouse but the game requires precise joystick moments. the controller i use now its deadzone and the joysticks kinda suck, for one the joystick is stiff so trying to lightly move it i have to put alot of pressure which overshoots my movement at times.
It's very good. The best in fact because you have a mix of both deadzone adjustments but also resistance tweaking that is hardware based, all that on hall-sensing tech. This way you can have a very "loose" stick on the left because it's basic movements, but have a much stiffer stick on the right with lower deadzones specifically for precise camera movements. As it stands, there is no better option in terms of customization for PC. That includes the super elite controllers from first party and licensed third party solutions.
Last, the Apex 4 does more than those for half the price. It's a no brainer if you want the pinnacle of customization elite style controller.
Do you know if possible to cut out the rumble packs to save weight ? I use to do this on my Xbox controller after I noticed scuf cut theirs
There is no reason why it can’t be feasible, the amount of work required may differ but logically speaking on this one, you could probably just remove the faceplate and cut the metal rod. That would already be a good chunk to of weight shaved off but opening it and removing the motor would be of greater impact. There may be de-soldering involved, in fact, pretty certain it’ll be necessary.
@@GameTechTalk I’ll have to look when it turns up mine should be here within a week, I just cut the connection wires with siscossors last time
thanks for the vid
i bought the apex 4 on aliexpress für 90€.
i like the controller so far.
I had 360 controller
xbox one controller
ps5 dual sense and a MS Elite 2 Controller
Nice collection you got there! To change the RGB, pick up the software for PC, you can make RGB changes there. Thanks for watching!
@@GameTechTalk now the controller doesnt power on any more do you have an idea?
@@cloudconnected7008 It does go on sleep mode even if on at times. I know it's very basic advice but I would suggest putting it off, plug it 30mins so that it charges a bit and try putting it back on.
If that doesn't work I'd suggest reaching out to Flydigi, maybe you'd have to disconnect and reconnect the battery...
I didn’t see you tell them you can change when the triggers will fire with the software. Instead of back locks.
You’re right, I just mentioned that the software lets you be more granular but I didn’t show examples of how granular that can be and how that can look like. Cheers
The controller’s software has the ability to copy or even use flydigi made addaptive triggers for games i found it after literal minutes in their software
Yup, I talk about it at 6:40 precisely. Thanks for pointing it out
@@GameTechTalk oh my bad i was writing i didnt even pay attention, nice review
So which one do you recommend that we can remab every button and have turbo function this one or manba 3 or kk3?
Out of the three you named, Apex 4. With that said, people have recently been reporting sticks breaking when playing with them at max tightness. So use that feature with a bit of caution.
Apart from the options I've mentioned, is there anything else that might be better?
@@alaa4208 I mean, it's also very relative to budget and if you're gonna play wired or not. I do have a video where I break down 20 controllers and my recommendations, I'd probably suggest watching that. Otherwise, X10 Mechanic is a very well rounded solution to see how you feel about "pro" features without having to pay the "pro" pricetag. It's also readily available and EasySMX have been very reliable overall.
I'd start there and potentially move up, move down or stay there based off of how you feel with the X10. Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk thank you so much gonna watch that video right now
do you know if there's an option to have trigger vibration (like on the xbox controllers) for all games or does it just do trigger vibration when adaptive triggers are compatible for a game?
It does not do either of them. Most controllers that work for PC are on the older protocol of Microsoft's X-Input and I may be wrong but I don't believe that "non-licensed" controllers have "hacked" into the One/Series layer which adds the rumble mapping for triggers. That's why, as far as I know, any controller that actually have triggers vibrating are either Microsoft's or officially licensed Microsoft's alternatives (that supports that feature). It's basically the same situation with the Dualsense controller. The Apex uses "spoofing" methods which rely on Xbox 360 protocol, but they also have Nintendo's Switch Pro protocol. So by not having Dualsense's proper protocol, they do not have adaptive trigger mapping, but the controller does have the technology, you just have to set it yourself.
It's a cool feature but the compatibility in-games is greatly reduced and also community based solutions.
If trigger rumble is important for you, I'd recommend looking into Gamesir's G7se or Kaleid for Xbox or Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra for Xbox. Cheers!
Nice can you use it for fighting games
Totally, I haven't played much fighting games lately but this can do just as great if not better due to it's mechanical buttons, phenomenal polling rate and latency but we're talking milliseconds in terms of advantage.
@@GameTechTalk you're totally Right, and in the highest level of competition, milliseconds can be the difference between winning or losing. Btw, can you input records(macros) like the KK3 max?
@hackeropolus You can and dare I say, it does a far better job than the KK3 Max for macro'ing. Up to 64 inputs, timing addressable and can be mapped to paddles (or buttons too I believe) all that managed through software... It literally is night and day just how better that it is!
@@GameTechTalk thanks for the answer, I'll give it a try then
@@GameTechTalk so, i got my apex 4 controller, and i can't do the macro thing, i would like to know if you're able to do it, because the option is there in the menu, it's just like it's unavailable. thanks in advance man
I only have ps3 and phone , is good for this controller or .. i dont know .. i dont feel nice in ps3 and phone , include the vibration is off in android
So Android is starting to see some vibration, depends what you play but it's not part of Android natively, since 12 if I recall. With that said, it's still not widely adopted. It's definitely good for phone, especially if you get the mount. For PS3, I don't think it's compatible unless you use a dongle that would spoof the controller. Maybe an 8BitDo dongle might work?
If incase I lost my dongle on my apex 4 can i use it on pc using bluetooth?
Yup absolutely can!
very disappointing that it doesn't have C or Z button like the Apex 3 or it's previous controllers cus I wanna use it for fighting for fighting games
Yeeeahhh! I've seen some Digifly with 2 rows of 3 buttons, kind of like the old SEGA ones. I didn't realize that was C and Z, that's cool! I'll have to try one one of those days. Cheers!
Does anyone know how to use it on Xbox Series X wirelessly? No one made a clear video on how to go about it, just that it's able to.
Ppl say to use a Brook Wingman Xb3 to use it wired but I want to stay wireless.
To use it on the Series X, you need an adapter of some kind, unfortunately, I do not know any in particular to recommend but I do know it is a possibility, though it requires external tools. As for wireless specifically, wouldn't the dongle work in the Brook Wingman Xb3? I would think so. Sorry as I don't have more to offer at this point in time, cheers and good luck!
Hi, I really need your help.
Many owners of Flydigi apex 4 have a problem with the left stick breaking, and there are no replacement modules on sale. Maybe if you write to this company, they will listen and change their mind about selling modules. Put a like so that he sees it. Thanks
I definitely can get behind being able to repair my own stuff when it’s an option, I’ll forward this suggestion to Flydigi. Thanks!
Does keyboard binds save to the controller or do you need to have the software open for it to work like the Scuf Envision?
That's a great question and one for which I actually had to go test for. So safe to say it's on the PC where the software is installed only. When connecting over bluetooth, it gives you two options: native or mapping, and while mapping preserves some on-board memory settings, keyboard inputs do not carry over. Tested on iOS, on Android and on another PC. Cheers!
they should add flick stick to the software aswell. But i already asked them. this is the ony thing i miss from the software. and also the reason why i use rewasd with flydigi controllers.
That's actually a brilliant idea, let's hope they implement it.
Have you tried Forza 5 yet? for me vibration not working and adaptive trigget too
I did, all was fine. Now keep in mind, the trigger rumble that you get from the regular Xbox controller, I don't believe that works on the Apex 4. That's an Xbox specific feature. The technology that the Apex 4 has in the triggers is not the same. Also, the adaptive triggers do not work in conjunction to what happens in game, at least not by default, that's a feature that is community driven, some games are supported, many aren't. If you haven't downloaded the PC software, I strongly encourage that you do, it'll give you a better overall view of what's possible and what's not. Cheers!
One downside is the same as the apex 3 you should seriously avoid playing intensely in those moments of hard grip and stress though the controller body is solid the buttons wear out pretty quickly and if you are an intense player you'll find after a month of regular use that some buttons won't respond 😉 a repeating problem for me that has never occurred for me on any x box or ps Gen factory controller and even some cheap controllers have had better button support it's just a very expensive controller for people not to know this fact about it that no one seems to want to talk about
Testers and promoters don't seem to be actually using these controllers enough to know or after they made the promotions they and found the problems just don't seem to care about them as long as they get the views and premature feedback
I’m sure none of us are trying to mislead people and I sure game with my Apex 4, in my
opinion quite a lot, but I do have to swap every now and then to test and make my reviews. With that said, I pay close attention to buyers to get the pulse and indeed, when I reviewed, no one was reporting errors then but it since have come out of the woodwork that there is some QC issues. Didn’t Flydigi openly addressed it and apologized.
AFAIK, they seem to be doing better than most in terms of customer service but the best situation would be far less defects.
How do i get the software? i just got a apex 4 for cod and i want to change the front display but i dont know what the software name is
A quick google search: "flydigi software download" should get you there, I believe it's called Flydigi Space Station if I recall. Cheers!
can apex 4 connect to xbox series x or just pc ?Thank you so much ❤
PC, Switch, Android and iOS. Xbox will not work unless it is used with one of those adapters to render external controllers useable on the console. And you're very welcome, happy to help! :)
Have you tried connecting it via MacBook? My Xbox controller works flawlessly on the Mac so I’m wondering if this is the same.. it’s either that or pay double for a scuf.
@@WarrenKirkpatrick Yup, it works perfectly fine on iOS, iPadOS and MacOS. Tested all three 😊
@@GameTechTalk you’re a legend. Thank you
so should I get this if I already use an overclocked dualense edge?
Honestly? Not really. You're not missing out with the Edge, arguably overclocking it is overkill too. The dev of the software said himself that going past 1000mhz is pointless and can introduce issues so he removed it in an updated software version. But yeah, the features you'd get from the Apex 4 over the Edge are not necessary enough to warrant the purchase. With that said, if you need say a stupidly powerful Switch controller, or a mobile phone controller? Yeah, bringing the Apex 4 into your life would also be a great solution.
I go back and forth between Edge and Apex 4 for PC, only controllers that I keep next to it and if they were the same price, I wouldn't know which to pick cause I like rumble so much and the Edge just is better for that. For everything else? Apex 4, but not by a lot.
@@GameTechTalk Awesome advice, thank you for taking the time.
@@brandonmoore3875 Always my guy, it's my favorite part! ❤
Bloody brilliant lad. Spending more money. No worries though, I'm sure my wife doesn't need her diabetes meds this month. 😉😂👍
Oh, I release myself of any responsabilities! 😅 All kidding aside of course, I'm glad you see value in my content, thanks! I still advise pacing ourselves with purchases though... This gaming hardware business is booming like crazy! A new company every week almost!
I never thought I'd be reviewing so many controllers, amongst other things!
Looks cool but only white ?
Actually they also have an Evangelion Eva limited edition that is absolutely gorgeous!
Does it have any features like Cronus max like anti recoil?
No it does not. Those are all software-based corrections and on-the-fly adjustments built with self-learning modules. I don't think we've ever seen a controller have such a feature integrated in the controller itself but if it exists, I have yet to ever see or hear about such a product, outside of Cronus Max, XIM and the likes. Cheers
@@GameTechTalk thanks that’s good to know, now no risk of a ban for using it
I can't wait enough for my Apex 4 EVA come home after seeing this review oh my god 🎉🎉
I definitely am jealous right now. From what I understand, it was overly complicated to get it outside China, not impossible, but still not simple either. Well, enjoy because it is an amazing controller to begin with and the EVA version is SO PRETTY!!!!!! Congrats
This is kinda off topic but are you a younger dude with grey hair or an older dude that looks young?
Daaammnnnn!! Whether that was intentional or not, there's definitely a compliment in there and I'll take it! I'm the latter, arguably the new "old" is much older than I am but I definitely do not qualify as young anymore, I was alive when the Super Nintendo was released and I'm old enough to remember it and the TV ads! So THANKS! 😂
My adaptive triggers stop working
Rip... As in the mechanism is not responding or you literally heard a physical breakage?
Now its the flydigi vader 4 pro
💯 Agree
Hey bro, Great Video! Only one like it!
I've been looking for a controller for sim racing. The PS5 standard controller is what I'm currently using but have been in the market for a controller that has both the ability to have adaptive triggers and tension adjustment on the sticks for more precise driving.
Would this be the best controller to buy for what I'm looking for?
Thanks bro! New Sub coming your way!
Thanks for the kind words! I mean not only is it the best controller, one could argue that it is the only one unless you can bend a Dualsense to your will.
At this point, I don't know if we'll see more companies tackle this tech but even with Flydigi, I certainly wonder if they had to reverse engineer Sony's solution because it feels exactly like what the Dualsense feels like. Anyway, I'm getting sidetracked, the answer is yes, it definitely is and you are also getting the absolute best controller on the market right now. You simply can't go wrong.
@@GameTechTalk Dude! Great response! Thank you for your help. Anyway I can get you a kick back from the company as I'm buying it because of your video/ recommendation?
@@derfreshprince2281 Wow thank you! Whenever you are ready to buy, if you use the links on the videos, as they are affiliate, I'll get a small kickback. Cheers!
@@GameTechTalk perfect bro, worked like a charm! It just arrived. 3 days earlier than expected!
Just had a quick question on adaptive triggers, I understand if the game is supported it will be on desktop app but what about the games that are not listed? Anyways way I can make that happen? I'm trying to play F1.
@@derfreshprince2281 I'm sorry to say I do not know. The fact that every custom description is in Chinese, I assume Flydigi have a closed knit group of fanbase developers that come up with their own and share it through the app?
What I would recommend if you'd like to create your own "per game profile" is to start in their Discord, you might have some luck there! Here's an invite that should be good for 7 days, cheers! discord.gg/EprTdu9X
whats the name of the game at 5:10 ?
It is Ender Magnolia, which is a sequel title (in series, not story) to Ender Lilies. It's currently in early access set to go 1.0 some time late this year or early next year if I recall. Great game, about 1h30m to 2h worth of content for the time being. I'd suggest picking up Ender of Lillies, it's a phenomenal title!
@@GameTechTalk thanks for answering
Best controller ever
Yup, this controller has become my benchmark for every other ones since using it
What do I need to use this on ps5?
I can’t help you much but there are adapters sold to convert signal to allow non-compatible controllers to work. However, these products are often used to cheat so they can get you banned among other things and they can also get patched out by Sony as they are not officially licensed. Otherwise, this controller is not compatible with PS5 by default.
@GameTechTalk thank you for reply. Sad I want a hall effect controller worth adjustable stick tension
so does it have back buttons for macros?
Hey Timzy! Yeah it does have macro ability for back buttons, in fact, Flydigi's software allows you to fully customize every buttons on the controller. Cheers!
Dang. Can't find it in EU.
Try AliExpress, they do sell out from time to time, it's a very popular product but as long as you keep your eyes peeled, you'll find it quickly enough!
Minixpc were amazing
It's nice that there is a solution shipping to Canada to buy it, but that price is thicc!! So pretty that Eva though... Thanks for showing me this website!
better than xbox elite 2?
Most definitely. But it doesn't work natively on Series console so there's that to keep in mind.
apex 4 is amazing.
Say less, it definitely is!
Hi mate go look at the Eva 01 apex 4 it’s so amazing
I knooowwww!! It's so good looking, I want one 😭
@@GameTechTalk 😂 yes i got one from Minixpc . Could have got it cheaper from 2 other sites but the communication with this firm was great.
It’s Xbox only..?!
No, actually it doesn't work on Xbox. It'll work on PC, iOS, Android, Switch, Steam Deck. Cheers!
A bit disappointed with the usb port. For this price point it should be a cavity port. Basically indented so if you play wired it doesn’t cause wear and tear on the port
I see where you're coming from, who knows, maybe Flydigi will see comments like yours and adapt over time! Cheers, thanks for engaging :)
I wish there was a PlayStation layout version Meh
Symmetrical sticks? Yeah honestly, I get by fine with both styles but symmetrical players are not getting anywhere near as much love...
Be careful when recommending this controller, it has QA issues. Look it up online: sticks are failing.
By failing do you mean the shape of the raw input being a diamond? Or do you mean like some sort of drifting of the inputs? Thanks for the heads up, I'll research this some more!
It physically breaks when the tension is high
@@Bsprizzle Wow! That's no joke, thanks for this info.
But it is broken on IOS 17
Ahh, I wasn't aware. Let's hope Flydigi can sort thi sout!
Tension sticks :(
That just means you can adjust the tension. It has Hall Effect sticks.
Minixpc
It is not the king since you cannot connect it to xbox or ps