It's not often that I already own something Klef reviews. I won a KK3 Pro from a giveaway sponsored by Retro Handhelds and AKNES back in May. It arrived in early June and I've got to say that I really enjoy mine. Everything Klef said about the KK3 Pro in this review is right on. I personally really like that slightly abrasive feel because I'm greasy enough to run for politics. Mine is also the DMG color scheme and it feels great and looks great. Mine is a super early example; enough so that it shipped with the white case from the KK3 Max instead of the smoked case shown in this video. A neat feature of the white case, I'm not sure if the smoked case has this, is that many of the useful shortcuts are painted on the lid so you don't need to memorize things or break out the instructions every five minutes. Of course many is not all, but, it's better than nothing. The absolute best value in controllers today is the T4 Nova Lite by GameSir. I'm not sure how they turn a profit at $25 + free shipping. It's legitimately great. But, if you don't have a limited budget and you want a bigger battery, a gyro, and more features then the KK3 Pro is a no brainer. It feels great, it looks great (I'm digging the DMG colors), it'll work with about anything, and the battery lasts forever on a charge. It's a super nice controller and I'm grateful to Retro Handhelds and AKNES for sending it to me. The fact that there's one, and possibly two, controllers in the Gulikit lineup which are "better" blows my mind. How is that possible?
"Greasy enough to run for politics" 🤣🤣🤣 The shortcuts are also painted on the case I got but not as visible, white ink would've fixed that. Well, I couldn't extract anything from the GuliKit rep I'm in cahoots with but I did get enough to know that the Standard and Ultra are definitely in existence. The Standard should come in a few weeks whereas Ultra is going to be much later. Didn't get any specifics but I would question the potential of going as far as early 2025? I think the standard is really to go after the Nova Lite and EasySMX X05, can't say for sure but I know these two controllers are performing very well for the respective brands so GuliKit could be trying to tap into that slice of the pie. Excited to see what they'll have in store!
I also won their KK3 pro controller on their Twitter giveaway June but I haven't received it yet, did anything come pre bundled beside the controller??
I own both the KK3 MAX and KK3 PRO. I have taken them apart fully and can confirm that they both use the same rumble motors. The most likely reason there is a difference between your two controllers is due to the software updates they have been releasing which have both changed how the rumble motors sound/feel and have added more adjustments in rumble intensity. As for the motors themselves, they are enclosed units like the duelsense ones, and changing the rumble modes changes how those maglev motors respond. For example, in regular rumble mode they simulate traditional weighted rumble motors while the other modes try to simulate HD rumble motors. Honestly, I have to agree that the price savings going with the pro model is worth it since all you are losing are the locking triggers which I don't like and the macro recording time is 10s on the pro and 10 min on the max. The newer KK3 PRO listing even started to include 6 rear paddles and Xbox-style face buttons. Love the videos keep them up.
Thanks for all the valuable info you shared, I'll seek out the latest firmware for my KK3 Max, I didn't think they'd go as far as improving the haptic unit through firmware, pretty impressive to be honest. Thanks for the kind words! :)
@@ancientgod9764 I would think you might have a membrane that shifted, can happen sometimes in production. If you feel comfortable opening it to see what's up, that's the best way. Maybe there a chipped plastic that got lodged stopping you from pushing down. There isn't much I can do other than suggesting that you open it unfortunately. But you can do it! It's way easier than it looks, film yourself doing it this way you'll have a video to assist you to put it back up together and keep the screws separate. What I do is I draw a very basic diagram of the controller and I punch the screws where they go :) Cheers!
damn im kinda late macro recording on Pro is really only 10s? or they've updated it with firmware? please reply im planning to buy the pro because I like retro ish colorway controller lol and I have Max which I use Macro Alot in some games lol
I do have some input regarding the older version of the controller (the KK2 Pro), I got one gifted i think about a year ago? (no longer under warranty) and contrary to the brand's statement... it got stick drift over time, due to the plastic mechanism's friction and the resistance it created and even a "screeching" kind of noise. A 20%, up to a 37% stick drift specially on the left side, of the left joystick. This is why i was looking at reviews for the KK3 Pro and/or KK3 Max, and reviews to see if someone else suffered that, but with the new series. I like the build quality it had, and I guess I just had bad luck, but that makes me second guess the "no stick drift" statement. In the end I've opened the KK2 Pro controller and applied ceramic grease to it, and it helped with the noise/resistance issue, but i could not fix the drift it has, if anything since it now moves smoothly, it has more drift than before due to teh "lack of resistance" in the movement.
Indeed, there is still a physical notion to Hall effect sticks, specifically right down the center. I unfortunately cant say if that would happen with a KK3 Pro or KK3 Max but there was reports of issues when the Max launched. Not necessarily with stick drift but quality control issues nonetheless. Have they fixed, addressed or updated their process a little bit if at all? I unfortunately would have no idea. The one thing I can say as someone that reviews these products consistently, the echoes from bad KK products did die down a lot. Sorry that I can’t say if that’s a good sign or no sign at all.
i bought kk3 max since the price difference here at my place is only $1 kk3 max is price P2270 which is $39-$40 depends on exchange rate and kk3 pro is price P2195 Which is about $38-$39 what i dont like with gulikit is the back paddle, you can only set it with one button unlike the gamesir T4 which you can set multiple buttons on 1 back paddle like when you press 1 back button it will press ABXY on same time.
Indeed, the GuliKit controllers only support 1 macro through the gear button and the Max supports a lot more inputs than the Pro. I wonder if they'll let owners map paddles in the upcoming Ultra. We know so little about that controller.
i got a really good deal on aliexpress on a kk3 pro so i grabbed the button/paddle kit aswell, I paid $80aud all up for both and upgraded from the KK2 Pro , I got the Nintendo kind of colour which I love that retro colour style.
That's awesome news! On a completely unrelated note, your name and channel icon made me think of Wheezy Waiter, an OG RUclipsr that I watched a lot for years, gonna go catch up, thanks!
It’s crazy out there. Game controllers, mobile controllers and handhelds, all apparently on the mega rise and it shows, these companies are coming up with variants and constantly keep “one upping” each other. Definitely awesome for the market in general but I can also see how that quickly becomes overwhelming. At this rate, I might reduce time between my shopping guide videos and overall tier list ones too.
The gulikit newer controllers are kind of a mix bag, I wanted to buy the KK3 max but the polling rate was basically identical to the KK2 which I own, and I have had connection issues from time to time, so I was looking forward to the dongle, the KK3 pro seems to have fixed that connectivity issue, now if I can find a bundle with replacement buttons thatd be great, I play on PC so I want the XBOX layout, or maybe we can wait to the ultra version and see if it has the pro connectivity and maybe adjustable tension on the joysticks that would be amazing, thats why I was considering buying the flydigy apex 4 or vader 4pro.
Personally, I would suggest wait for Ultra or going Vader 4 Pro. Logically speaking, they both are the same price and while each have an advantage over the other, I do find that Flydigi greatly close any disadvantage and rather creates a lot of advantages for itself by having an amazing level of customization all handled through a nice software suite. From a quality standpoint though, both products do feel great.
While I like the idea of a stripped down Max, not including all the back paddles is a miss for me. If you want 4 paddles the accessory pack plus the Pro costs the exact same as the Max. Unless you can get hands on with one first the Max just seems like the safest option of the 2. Hope to see some reviews start popping up on the 8bitdo Ultimate 2C. At least on PC this seems like it's a budget king with 1k polling dongle, 2 bonus bumpers and hall effect.
I got my eye on the 2C, wanted to pre-order it but I'll be overseas when it would've shipped. Definitely something I'd like to review in the future. Cheers!
Yup, it’s in the description box as well as in the comment of @lordbraxy but you do have me wondering about what the best way to announce winners would be. My community posts don’t usually have a lot of visibility and a user lost their winning once because the person never responded… It was a big one too, it was a GPD Win 4, someone else won it but I haven’t seen that viewer since 🥲.
@@GameTechTalk- That sounds like the system working as intended to me. Ha. Between a community post (which your subscribers will definitely see even if they don't interact with it) and a reply tag under their winning comment, you've done more than enough. If they're a drive-by commenter who never comes back to the channel then they don't deserve to win, in my opinion. I have no clue if these cost money or if they're monetized in some other way; but, giveaway widgets like Gleam, Tropy (spelling?), and/or Sweepswidget exist. It makes it a bit easier on the contest administrator because people have to submit their email in order to enter the contest. So, there's no need to wait on the winner to see that they've won and do the verification dance.
@@mattdavis9601 They cost nothing (ish), they provide barebone features for the free tier but the paying tier gives a bunch of information to the admin, e-mail, info, etc. There is some convenience to the process but I know some people have raised eyebrows for the reasons I mentioned, which I can understand. I guess for now I can sit on a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and leave that for "Future Klef".
Not to my knowledge. I think GuliKit rushed a bit to market with KK3 Pro but the KK3 Max, at least from what I picked up, seemed a lot smoother overall.
@GameTechTalk thanks a lot for the answer, I've been looking for it everywhere. I just bought mine yesterday, and sure the gamepad feels so good, i think my best experience so far with any gamepad. hope it last long enough for me tho and doesn't got affected with any production issues 🙌🏻
How does this feel in hand compared to the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth, i like the design and charging dock of the 8bitdo more but it looks kind of cheap, this one overall looks more premium with better analogue sticks and triggers but i dont know if it really is like that and if its worth giving up on the charging dock and nice dpad the 8bitdo has
The ergonomics of the KK3s is vastly superior (for me personally) to the Ultimate design from 8BitDo. With that said, they each have other benefits over the other, it all comes down to going for what feels better to you! Edit: Sticks are definitely not better on 8BitDos. Dpad I would agree.
@@GameTechTalk Yeah i meant better sticks on the gulikit, either way ill se what i get, would you say the 8bitdo its similar in terms of shape to the switch pro controller? both the xbox and switch controller feel pretty nice but in my case the switch controller a little bit more
Is the KK3 Pro Dpad different ? Saw people complaining KK3 Max dpad because too mushi and not accurate (kinda slide) for fighting game, is it still the case or it's good like KK2 dpad ?
To me, I'd say it has more in common to the KK3 Max d-pad than the KK2 but all three are in similar range. The KK2 Pro is the stiffest of the three and a bit more steep on the edges and corners. The shape and texture are identical from KK3 Max and Pro, however, the Pro does sound and feel like it has a membrane that is slightly more stiff. So I'd say somewhere in-between but leaning towards KK3 Max since the feel and shape is identical. I hope this helps!
I badly need a PC controller that will allow Left Stick Look and right stick move ( aka Southpaw ) with its OWN software or configurable within controller, Help Please!!!
If I'm not mistaken, you didn't even mention the Amiibo feature? That alone could be a selling point for some gamers! That's also a feature that affects the price difference.
Indeed, I did not verbally address it, my apology. You do have a slide near the end 21:07 that shows the information you are looking for which is that the KK3 Pro effectively does not have Amiibo support, while the KK3 Max does. Again, my sincere apologies for this miss on my review. Thanks for watching!
I didn't understand the Gyro part. The game that you used has native support? For example Fortnite has native support, if i use the kk3 pro in FN the gyro will work?
If the game has native support, yes, it will work as long as your controller is in Nintendo Switch mode where gyro is natively present. With the KK3 Max, you could had gyro to the Xbox mode, for example, which you cannot with this one.
Very good controller really, for Switch also does a good deal However for tablets, I love those that fit on them, being tue G8 Plus the best.. Will there be any day a short video tutorial of how to take advantage on windows through Vgem ? Please
There will be but I do have products to prioritize in terms of coverage, companies send me stuff to review, it wouldn't be very respectful to do 3-4 G8+ videos while I haven't covered their products. Another G8+ video will come, but once I have fulfilled my current obligations. Cheers and thanks for being so active Andrew, I greatly appreciate you being here! :)
I totally understand, follow your rhythm to accomplish your targets. I really appreciate your invaluable support and EFFORT given to us. Yes, In my daily routine I look at your Channel because I LOVE technology for gaming so much. Regarding the G8 Plus...this controller is ...unic, the only One for Big tablets capable to be fitted in a free/easy way. IS the BEST by far. Now also with haptic Rumble... The BEST Gamepad deverves the BEST XP, I really wish in the near future how to take advantage of Its Rumble function on Windows giving G8 plus Xinput mode. please I BEG you! Thanks a lot for your kindness
Assuming that you are gaming on PC, I'd say KK3 Pro (or Max), because you have an extremely tight controller with an overall great experience delivery but also, the ability to further expand the way that you interact with your games due to the functions it provides. All that on top of what is effectively a considerably superior performance fidelity pretty much across the board. The one reason why I would say Xbox Gen 9 is if you are a massive shooter games kind of player and you are used to the sticks on Xbox controllers, the ones on KK3 Pro while still very good, do feel different.
One of those wishes should already be granted as I believe they all have the same 4 colors (retro, snes, white, black). And much like you implied, I prefer the feel of the KK3 Pro to the KK3 Max.
I will be making a video featuring latency on these telescopic controllers, but that most likely won't be before I'm back from vacation as I won't have all the controllers with me to test but I can already give you the answer on those two specifically, I ran the tests. The G8+ greatly outperforms the X4 Aileron in terms of latency. Basically, the X4 Aileron is extremely reliable on 125hz, it pretty much caps it everytime. The G8+ can go up to 500hz on the right modes and caps it as well. On the right modes, the G8+ is 4 times better. With that said, the X4 Aileron remains vastly better than many controllers on the market, including wired ones. Cheers!
Hey bro, I have just ordered easysmx m05 after seeing your review and before I even received it, easysmx released m15 which looks exactly like g8 and it's actually 100grams lighter. Do you plan to review it? I feel like I will refund the m05 and get m15 instead.
My unit is on the way, there is a slight chance that I won't be home to receive it (I'm leaving overseas for two weeks) so at this point in time, I'm hoping I will but it's quite uncertain if being honest.
@@GameTechTalk Aah cool. I have quite high hopes on that device as easysmx have coppied others but always did it better until now while also being much cheaper.
@@SacrificeJP The M15 has a lot of interest features if being honest. I think the G8+ still will have great appeal, the M15 might be more dangerous for the abxylute S9, I've taken careful attention at thoroughly looking at the specs and the M15 could have me as hyped about it as the G8+, so could the abxylute S9... So many options! 🤣
If the game your playing, or the storefront (like Steam) supports Nintendo’s controllers gyro, you could use that as long as you play on the Nintendo mode of the controller. If you need gyro to mimic your left or right stick, no this will not work. If that’s what you need, look up the KK3 Max instead, that one can.
I ended up going with the MAX for the longer macros and the all-white, but I DO like that specific color Pro you have! 💚 I also love my JerryRigEverything Knife! 😅 I lose it all the time.. even though mine's bright orange..
I'm gonna need to get an all-white too for the next one to have all 4 color ways they released so far. Honestly, the grip on that exacto knife is just perfect and the fact that it uses readily available blades is just perfect. Very happy I bought it. Now I've still being eyeing that LTT screwdriver but I feel like it's so overkill for my needs! -_-
@GameTechTalk The white looks really nice, and I really do like the knife! I use it and my trusty "Zombie Killer" interchangeably. But the LTT screwdriver is a godsend! I used my full sized one so much that I got the Stubby (and some extra bits) for some extra leverage. They've almost completely replaced my iFixit kits and take up way less space! 💚
@@GameTechTalk It comes in handy all the time! The regular driver has an included hex bit that fits almost all of the Ikea/build-yourself projects that I've had come in. It was a really nice touch. And the magnet for the bits really IS something to write home about. It's helped me out of a few sticky situations whilst working on PCs. ^_^ I wish I got commission for this, but it really is worth it, imo!
The KK3 Max wasn't, someone let me know that they had improved rumble through firmware update over the lifespan of the controller, truthfully, I was shocked to find out, credits to GuliKit for pulling something this nice!
@@TS-qr3rk I would still say that the shell, which is very subjective, feels overall more pleasant for me to hold. As for other features, I still find the Pro to be overall superior in value proposition than the Max, but if the extra features the Max gets you are better, than it should be the one you go for. Better paying a little extra to get what you want, rather than paying twice, that's how I approach these things oftentimes.
I really need a visual recording showing the input received when flicking the sticks back and forth in bursts of speed. I bought the KK2 Pro, and it completely missed my stick inputs for fast flicks in Smash Bros, essential for dash dancing/micro dash dancing. If you flick the stick right and left in 1/10th of a second, instead of recognizing the full range of motion, it only registers slight movements. This makes me hesitant to buy Gulikit's controllers. I need precision, good HD rumble, and no drift. I've gone through five Pro Controllers for competitive Smash Ultimate, despite being careful, as using execution-heavy characters in tournaments strains Nintendo's controllers. I now use a 3rd party wired controller, which lacks vibration but has had no issues with precision or drift for over eight months.
Honestly, if flick stick is important for you, I think your best bet will be the Vader 4 Pro. I haven't yet reviewed it, barely used it if being honest but I saw in the software that it has an anti-bounce correction feature. Sounds like something you could definitely take advantage of. I'll make sure to test it when that review comes. That feature definitely did not exist with the Apex 4 and GuliKit, having no accompanying software definitely does not have a feature like that.
Hmmm, I have not had this particular situation but it can be a few things, the generic drivers of Windows could be corrupted, or mis-associated. It could be a USB host controller conflict with the dongle itself. Could also be just a weird anomaly. Unfortunately, it's very difficult, near impossible, to guide you in a specific direction without precisely understand the nature of the issue. Sorry
@@GameTechTalk hey Im sorry. Just figured it out. Turns out you don't need to connect to bluetooth when you connect to the hyperlink adapter. Sorry my bad.
Indeed, that will work but that also means losing other features such as analog triggers and the 1000hz feature. The PC gyro enabled feature of the KK3 Max is different than relying on the Switch mode gyro. With that said, you do have a solution as you did point out and better yet, that solution does have 6-axis gyro versus translating 4-axis to bind to right stick axis. Thanks for the correction!
Did you start by saying it can not record macros? Dude, the max records 10 mins or inputs, more than anything else in the market. The pro 10 secs. Did you actually use it before "reviewing" it?
What are you on about? I literally show that it records macros at 2:23 Did you actually watch the video before « criticizing » it? 😅 What I say is the paddles CANNOT be used for the macro playback and it is the case. It is the APG front button that serves as a macro recording/playback key.
That's what happen to you for not viewing the video he show the macro recording before you start criticism watch the video first the only thing he said is that you can not record macro on the back paddles
Ahhh you're a bit harsh with GuliKit there. Is it the controller that I would throw against the wall and hope it survives? Definitely not but otherwise, they have some qualities.
@@iceorangutan If the Ultra is out, I have not been aware but there was rumor of an Ultra version coming out, though I never managed to find out what would make it superior over the KK3 Max.
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This is the review that most helped me make my decision. Thanks man!
Glad I could help!
same. You give a great presentation
It's not often that I already own something Klef reviews. I won a KK3 Pro from a giveaway sponsored by Retro Handhelds and AKNES back in May. It arrived in early June and I've got to say that I really enjoy mine. Everything Klef said about the KK3 Pro in this review is right on. I personally really like that slightly abrasive feel because I'm greasy enough to run for politics. Mine is also the DMG color scheme and it feels great and looks great.
Mine is a super early example; enough so that it shipped with the white case from the KK3 Max instead of the smoked case shown in this video. A neat feature of the white case, I'm not sure if the smoked case has this, is that many of the useful shortcuts are painted on the lid so you don't need to memorize things or break out the instructions every five minutes. Of course many is not all, but, it's better than nothing.
The absolute best value in controllers today is the T4 Nova Lite by GameSir. I'm not sure how they turn a profit at $25 + free shipping. It's legitimately great. But, if you don't have a limited budget and you want a bigger battery, a gyro, and more features then the KK3 Pro is a no brainer. It feels great, it looks great (I'm digging the DMG colors), it'll work with about anything, and the battery lasts forever on a charge. It's a super nice controller and I'm grateful to Retro Handhelds and AKNES for sending it to me. The fact that there's one, and possibly two, controllers in the Gulikit lineup which are "better" blows my mind. How is that possible?
"Greasy enough to run for politics" 🤣🤣🤣 The shortcuts are also painted on the case I got but not as visible, white ink would've fixed that. Well, I couldn't extract anything from the GuliKit rep I'm in cahoots with but I did get enough to know that the Standard and Ultra are definitely in existence.
The Standard should come in a few weeks whereas Ultra is going to be much later. Didn't get any specifics but I would question the potential of going as far as early 2025? I think the standard is really to go after the Nova Lite and EasySMX X05, can't say for sure but I know these two controllers are performing very well for the respective brands so GuliKit could be trying to tap into that slice of the pie. Excited to see what they'll have in store!
I also won their KK3 pro controller on their Twitter giveaway June but I haven't received it yet, did anything come pre bundled beside the controller??
@@Serge_Pepper The dongle and two back paddles. Hmm and maybe a cable? Not sure tbh
@@Serge_Pepper - What Klef said. I got the controller, case, two paddles, and a 2.4ghz dongle. It also came with a real nice flat USB cable.
Gracias por la Review, no hay ningún vídeo en Español sobre el KK3 pro y quería saber con ansias la diferencia. Gracias y like
Pleasure is all mine buddy, glad I could help!
I own both the KK3 MAX and KK3 PRO. I have taken them apart fully and can confirm that they both use the same rumble motors. The most likely reason there is a difference between your two controllers is due to the software updates they have been releasing which have both changed how the rumble motors sound/feel and have added more adjustments in rumble intensity. As for the motors themselves, they are enclosed units like the duelsense ones, and changing the rumble modes changes how those maglev motors respond. For example, in regular rumble mode they simulate traditional weighted rumble motors while the other modes try to simulate HD rumble motors. Honestly, I have to agree that the price savings going with the pro model is worth it since all you are losing are the locking triggers which I don't like and the macro recording time is 10s on the pro and 10 min on the max. The newer KK3 PRO listing even started to include 6 rear paddles and Xbox-style face buttons. Love the videos keep them up.
Thanks for all the valuable info you shared, I'll seek out the latest firmware for my KK3 Max, I didn't think they'd go as far as improving the haptic unit through firmware, pretty impressive to be honest. Thanks for the kind words! :)
sir can you help me my d pad down button is hard to press functioning but need to hard press
@@ancientgod9764 I would think you might have a membrane that shifted, can happen sometimes in production. If you feel comfortable opening it to see what's up, that's the best way. Maybe there a chipped plastic that got lodged stopping you from pushing down.
There isn't much I can do other than suggesting that you open it unfortunately. But you can do it! It's way easier than it looks, film yourself doing it this way you'll have a video to assist you to put it back up together and keep the screws separate. What I do is I draw a very basic diagram of the controller and I punch the screws where they go :)
Cheers!
@@guns4hire19 is it good for racing sim game? Thanks
damn im kinda late macro recording on Pro is really only 10s? or they've updated it with firmware? please reply im planning to buy the pro because I like retro ish colorway controller lol and I have Max which I use Macro Alot in some games lol
I do have some input regarding the older version of the controller (the KK2 Pro), I got one gifted i think about a year ago? (no longer under warranty) and contrary to the brand's statement... it got stick drift over time, due to the plastic mechanism's friction and the resistance it created and even a "screeching" kind of noise. A 20%, up to a 37% stick drift specially on the left side, of the left joystick.
This is why i was looking at reviews for the KK3 Pro and/or KK3 Max, and reviews to see if someone else suffered that, but with the new series.
I like the build quality it had, and I guess I just had bad luck, but that makes me second guess the "no stick drift" statement. In the end I've opened the KK2 Pro controller and applied ceramic grease to it, and it helped with the noise/resistance issue, but i could not fix the drift it has, if anything since it now moves smoothly, it has more drift than before due to teh "lack of resistance" in the movement.
Indeed, there is still a physical notion to Hall effect sticks, specifically right down the center. I unfortunately cant say if that would happen with a KK3 Pro or KK3 Max but there was reports of issues when the Max launched. Not necessarily with stick drift but quality control issues nonetheless.
Have they fixed, addressed or updated their process a little bit if at all? I unfortunately would have no idea. The one thing I can say as someone that reviews these products consistently, the echoes from bad KK products did die down a lot. Sorry that I can’t say if that’s a good sign or no sign at all.
i bought kk3 max since the price difference here at my place is only $1 kk3 max is price P2270 which is $39-$40 depends on exchange rate and kk3 pro is price P2195 Which is about $38-$39 what i dont like with gulikit is the back paddle, you can only set it with one button unlike the gamesir T4 which you can set multiple buttons on 1 back paddle like when you press 1 back button it will press ABXY on same time.
Indeed, the GuliKit controllers only support 1 macro through the gear button and the Max supports a lot more inputs than the Pro. I wonder if they'll let owners map paddles in the upcoming Ultra. We know so little about that controller.
Came here for the controller and noticed the X1, I also have a X1, great device. Man of culture.
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i got a really good deal on aliexpress on a kk3 pro so i grabbed the button/paddle kit aswell, I paid $80aud all up for both and upgraded from the KK2 Pro , I got the Nintendo kind of colour which I love that retro colour style.
That's awesome news! On a completely unrelated note, your name and channel icon made me think of Wheezy Waiter, an OG RUclipsr that I watched a lot for years, gonna go catch up, thanks!
My controller is fully charged and not vibrating. Using the settings gear and the minus sign, all it does is slow down my movement in game
Fantastic Klef! Thanks man. So many choices now for controllers it's really so hard to decide man. I'm actually suffering from choice paralysis.
It’s crazy out there. Game controllers, mobile controllers and handhelds, all apparently on the mega rise and it shows, these companies are coming up with variants and constantly keep “one upping” each other.
Definitely awesome for the market in general but I can also see how that quickly becomes overwhelming. At this rate, I might reduce time between my shopping guide videos and overall tier list ones too.
@@GameTechTalkAgreed young lad. Last week of summer vacation and then back to teaching.
The gulikit newer controllers are kind of a mix bag, I wanted to buy the KK3 max but the polling rate was basically identical to the KK2 which I own, and I have had connection issues from time to time, so I was looking forward to the dongle, the KK3 pro seems to have fixed that connectivity issue, now if I can find a bundle with replacement buttons thatd be great, I play on PC so I want the XBOX layout, or maybe we can wait to the ultra version and see if it has the pro connectivity and maybe adjustable tension on the joysticks that would be amazing, thats why I was considering buying the flydigy apex 4 or vader 4pro.
Personally, I would suggest wait for Ultra or going Vader 4 Pro. Logically speaking, they both are the same price and while each have an advantage over the other, I do find that Flydigi greatly close any disadvantage and rather creates a lot of advantages for itself by having an amazing level of customization all handled through a nice software suite. From a quality standpoint though, both products do feel great.
While I like the idea of a stripped down Max, not including all the back paddles is a miss for me. If you want 4 paddles the accessory pack plus the Pro costs the exact same as the Max. Unless you can get hands on with one first the Max just seems like the safest option of the 2.
Hope to see some reviews start popping up on the 8bitdo Ultimate 2C. At least on PC this seems like it's a budget king with 1k polling dongle, 2 bonus bumpers and hall effect.
I got my eye on the 2C, wanted to pre-order it but I'll be overseas when it would've shipped. Definitely something I'd like to review in the future. Cheers!
2C would be perfect if only it had an extra 2 back buttons 😔
Did he ever mention the winner for the Nyxi Warrior controller?
Yup, it’s in the description box as well as in the comment of @lordbraxy but you do have me wondering about what the best way to announce winners would be. My community posts don’t usually have a lot of visibility and a user lost their winning once because the person never responded… It was a big one too, it was a GPD Win 4, someone else won it but I haven’t seen that viewer since 🥲.
@@GameTechTalk- That sounds like the system working as intended to me. Ha. Between a community post (which your subscribers will definitely see even if they don't interact with it) and a reply tag under their winning comment, you've done more than enough. If they're a drive-by commenter who never comes back to the channel then they don't deserve to win, in my opinion.
I have no clue if these cost money or if they're monetized in some other way; but, giveaway widgets like Gleam, Tropy (spelling?), and/or Sweepswidget exist. It makes it a bit easier on the contest administrator because people have to submit their email in order to enter the contest. So, there's no need to wait on the winner to see that they've won and do the verification dance.
@@mattdavis9601 They cost nothing (ish), they provide barebone features for the free tier but the paying tier gives a bunch of information to the admin, e-mail, info, etc.
There is some convenience to the process but I know some people have raised eyebrows for the reasons I mentioned, which I can understand.
I guess for now I can sit on a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" and leave that for "Future Klef".
@@GameTechTalk I guess you could put it at the end of your next video
@@sbfb242 That's not a bad idea actually. I'll keep it in mind, thanks!
I don't honestly need this controller but I am interested in gettingit later I have the KK2 Pro and also a Apex 4 pro controller
Ahhh… It’s robust but you may want to watch Vader 4 Pro reviews before making your mind up tbh!
@@GameTechTalkdont need Vader 4 I have Apex 4
I don't see a huge difference between the two
@@itzdcx There is more than meets the eye. Namely software updates, I’ll hopefully cover most of it in my review.
You don't have to memorize the key shortcuts/combo for settings, its drawn on the case.
But what if I can’t read case font? 😅🤷🏾
Does the production issues on kk3max also happened on kk3pro?
Not to my knowledge. I think GuliKit rushed a bit to market with KK3 Pro but the KK3 Max, at least from what I picked up, seemed a lot smoother overall.
@GameTechTalk thanks a lot for the answer, I've been looking for it everywhere. I just bought mine yesterday, and sure the gamepad feels so good, i think my best experience so far with any gamepad. hope it last long enough for me tho and doesn't got affected with any production issues 🙌🏻
How does this feel in hand compared to the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth, i like the design and charging dock of the 8bitdo more but it looks kind of cheap, this one overall looks more premium with better analogue sticks and triggers but i dont know if it really is like that and if its worth giving up on the charging dock and nice dpad the 8bitdo has
The ergonomics of the KK3s is vastly superior (for me personally) to the Ultimate design from 8BitDo. With that said, they each have other benefits over the other, it all comes down to going for what feels better to you!
Edit: Sticks are definitely not better on 8BitDos. Dpad I would agree.
@@GameTechTalk Yeah i meant better sticks on the gulikit, either way ill se what i get, would you say the 8bitdo its similar in terms of shape to the switch pro controller? both the xbox and switch controller feel pretty nice but in my case the switch controller a little bit more
@@jsebsh211 Yeah kind of somewhere between Series and Switch Pro actually. It's more square than both though, at least I find.
Is the KK3 Pro Dpad different ? Saw people complaining KK3 Max dpad because too mushi and not accurate (kinda slide) for fighting game, is it still the case or it's good like KK2 dpad ?
To me, I'd say it has more in common to the KK3 Max d-pad than the KK2 but all three are in similar range. The KK2 Pro is the stiffest of the three and a bit more steep on the edges and corners. The shape and texture are identical from KK3 Max and Pro, however, the Pro does sound and feel like it has a membrane that is slightly more stiff. So I'd say somewhere in-between but leaning towards KK3 Max since the feel and shape is identical. I hope this helps!
I badly need a PC controller that will allow Left Stick Look and right stick move ( aka Southpaw ) with its OWN software or configurable within controller, Help Please!!!
If I'm not mistaken, you didn't even mention the Amiibo feature? That alone could be a selling point for some gamers! That's also a feature that affects the price difference.
Indeed, I did not verbally address it, my apology. You do have a slide near the end 21:07 that shows the information you are looking for which is that the KK3 Pro effectively does not have Amiibo support, while the KK3 Max does. Again, my sincere apologies for this miss on my review. Thanks for watching!
I didn't understand the Gyro part. The game that you used has native support? For example Fortnite has native support, if i use the kk3 pro in FN the gyro will work?
If the game has native support, yes, it will work as long as your controller is in Nintendo Switch mode where gyro is natively present. With the KK3 Max, you could had gyro to the Xbox mode, for example, which you cannot with this one.
Very good controller really, for Switch also does a good deal
However for tablets, I love those that fit on them, being tue G8 Plus the best..
Will there be any day a short video tutorial of how to take advantage on windows through Vgem ? Please
There will be but I do have products to prioritize in terms of coverage, companies send me stuff to review, it wouldn't be very respectful to do 3-4 G8+ videos while I haven't covered their products. Another G8+ video will come, but once I have fulfilled my current obligations. Cheers and thanks for being so active Andrew, I greatly appreciate you being here! :)
I totally understand, follow your rhythm to accomplish your targets. I really appreciate your invaluable support and EFFORT given to us.
Yes, In my daily routine I look at your Channel because I LOVE technology for gaming so much.
Regarding the G8 Plus...this controller is ...unic, the only One for Big tablets capable to be fitted in a free/easy way. IS the BEST by far. Now also with haptic Rumble...
The BEST Gamepad deverves the BEST XP, I really wish in the near future how to take advantage of Its Rumble function on Windows giving G8 plus Xinput mode. please
I BEG you! Thanks a lot for your kindness
Xbox gen 9 or kk3 pro? And why
Assuming that you are gaming on PC, I'd say KK3 Pro (or Max), because you have an extremely tight controller with an overall great experience delivery but also, the ability to further expand the way that you interact with your games due to the functions it provides. All that on top of what is effectively a considerably superior performance fidelity pretty much across the board.
The one reason why I would say Xbox Gen 9 is if you are a massive shooter games kind of player and you are used to the sticks on Xbox controllers, the ones on KK3 Pro while still very good, do feel different.
I want the added features of the kk3 max but with the color and feel of the kk3 pro
One of those wishes should already be granted as I believe they all have the same 4 colors (retro, snes, white, black). And much like you implied, I prefer the feel of the KK3 Pro to the KK3 Max.
Can you compare the GameSir X4 Aileron and the G8 + in Bluetooth latency please?
I will be making a video featuring latency on these telescopic controllers, but that most likely won't be before I'm back from vacation as I won't have all the controllers with me to test but I can already give you the answer on those two specifically, I ran the tests. The G8+ greatly outperforms the X4 Aileron in terms of latency. Basically, the X4 Aileron is extremely reliable on 125hz, it pretty much caps it everytime. The G8+ can go up to 500hz on the right modes and caps it as well. On the right modes, the G8+ is 4 times better. With that said, the X4 Aileron remains vastly better than many controllers on the market, including wired ones.
Cheers!
Hey bro, I have just ordered easysmx m05 after seeing your review and before I even received it, easysmx released m15 which looks exactly like g8 and it's actually 100grams lighter. Do you plan to review it? I feel like I will refund the m05 and get m15 instead.
My unit is on the way, there is a slight chance that I won't be home to receive it (I'm leaving overseas for two weeks) so at this point in time, I'm hoping I will but it's quite uncertain if being honest.
@@GameTechTalk Aah cool. I have quite high hopes on that device as easysmx have coppied others but always did it better until now while also being much cheaper.
@@SacrificeJP The M15 has a lot of interest features if being honest. I think the G8+ still will have great appeal, the M15 might be more dangerous for the abxylute S9, I've taken careful attention at thoroughly looking at the specs and the M15 could have me as hyped about it as the G8+, so could the abxylute S9... So many options! 🤣
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so is it posibble on PC for example in fifa games to switch player with the gyro? usually we change player with the right analogue stick
If the game your playing, or the storefront (like Steam) supports Nintendo’s controllers gyro, you could use that as long as you play on the Nintendo mode of the controller. If you need gyro to mimic your left or right stick, no this will not work. If that’s what you need, look up the KK3 Max instead, that one can.
I ended up going with the MAX for the longer macros and the all-white, but I DO like that specific color Pro you have! 💚
I also love my JerryRigEverything Knife! 😅 I lose it all the time.. even though mine's bright orange..
I'm gonna need to get an all-white too for the next one to have all 4 color ways they released so far. Honestly, the grip on that exacto knife is just perfect and the fact that it uses readily available blades is just perfect. Very happy I bought it. Now I've still being eyeing that LTT screwdriver but I feel like it's so overkill for my needs! -_-
@GameTechTalk The white looks really nice, and I really do like the knife! I use it and my trusty "Zombie Killer" interchangeably.
But the LTT screwdriver is a godsend! I used my full sized one so much that I got the Stubby (and some extra bits) for some extra leverage. They've almost completely replaced my iFixit kits and take up way less space! 💚
@@Sadtiric Dang you might just be the one to sell me on it!
@@GameTechTalk It comes in handy all the time! The regular driver has an included hex bit that fits almost all of the Ikea/build-yourself projects that I've had come in. It was a really nice touch. And the magnet for the bits really IS something to write home about. It's helped me out of a few sticky situations whilst working on PCs. ^_^
I wish I got commission for this, but it really is worth it, imo!
would you recommend this over 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth?
Definitely not. However, versus the 2C I might.
Are both controllers on the same firmware version? This might effect rumble
The KK3 Max wasn't, someone let me know that they had improved rumble through firmware update over the lifespan of the controller, truthfully, I was shocked to find out, credits to GuliKit for pulling something this nice!
@@GameTechTalk Does it make a difference, bring it more inline with the pro?
@@TS-qr3rk I would still say that the shell, which is very subjective, feels overall more pleasant for me to hold. As for other features, I still find the Pro to be overall superior in value proposition than the Max, but if the extra features the Max gets you are better, than it should be the one you go for.
Better paying a little extra to get what you want, rather than paying twice, that's how I approach these things oftentimes.
I really need a visual recording showing the input received when flicking the sticks back and forth in bursts of speed.
I bought the KK2 Pro, and it completely missed my stick inputs for fast flicks in Smash Bros, essential for dash dancing/micro dash dancing. If you flick the stick right and left in 1/10th of a second, instead of recognizing the full range of motion, it only registers slight movements.
This makes me hesitant to buy Gulikit's controllers. I need precision, good HD rumble, and no drift. I've gone through five Pro Controllers for competitive Smash Ultimate, despite being careful, as using execution-heavy characters in tournaments strains Nintendo's controllers. I now use a 3rd party wired controller, which lacks vibration but has had no issues with precision or drift for over eight months.
Honestly, if flick stick is important for you, I think your best bet will be the Vader 4 Pro. I haven't yet reviewed it, barely used it if being honest but I saw in the software that it has an anti-bounce correction feature. Sounds like something you could definitely take advantage of. I'll make sure to test it when that review comes. That feature definitely did not exist with the Apex 4 and GuliKit, having no accompanying software definitely does not have a feature like that.
@@GameTechTalk I appreciate your input! I'm actually now gonna look forward to getting one! It does seem super reliable. Thank you!
in my country kk3 pro it's just 41$ and the max just 44$ just 3 dollar difference 😮
Oh wow, for that difference, go Max for sure! That’s awesome!
How do you fix the driver error when connecting to the dongle?
Hmmm, I have not had this particular situation but it can be a few things, the generic drivers of Windows could be corrupted, or mis-associated. It could be a USB host controller conflict with the dongle itself. Could also be just a weird anomaly. Unfortunately, it's very difficult, near impossible, to guide you in a specific direction without precisely understand the nature of the issue. Sorry
@@GameTechTalk hey Im sorry. Just figured it out. Turns out you don't need to connect to bluetooth when you connect to the hyperlink adapter. Sorry my bad.
@@reyessjl Nah dude, no need for sorry, if anything, I'm glad you got it sorted and that it's no longer an issue! Cheers :)
Test for racing game please
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!
wrong putthe controller in switch mode and use it with a wire on pc for gyro
Indeed, that will work but that also means losing other features such as analog triggers and the 1000hz feature. The PC gyro enabled feature of the KK3 Max is different than relying on the Switch mode gyro. With that said, you do have a solution as you did point out and better yet, that solution does have 6-axis gyro versus translating 4-axis to bind to right stick axis. Thanks for the correction!
@@GameTechTalk i use it for switch emulation on pc only for gyro so i dont mind losing the other features
Did you start by saying it can not record macros? Dude, the max records 10 mins or inputs, more than anything else in the market. The pro 10 secs. Did you actually use it before "reviewing" it?
What are you on about? I literally show that it records macros at 2:23 Did you actually watch the video before « criticizing » it? 😅
What I say is the paddles CANNOT be used for the macro playback and it is the case. It is the APG front button that serves as a macro recording/playback key.
That's what happen to you for not viewing the video he show the macro recording before you start criticism watch the video first the only thing he said is that you can not record macro on the back paddles
Sandpaper... Lol Klef.
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gulikit controller as a whole is awful there joysticks are plastic with no metal reinforcement honestly
Ahhh you're a bit harsh with GuliKit there. Is it the controller that I would throw against the wall and hope it survives? Definitely not but otherwise, they have some qualities.
Max is currently the best, but the Ultra will better.
Similar to how S Ultra phones always kick the iPhone Max's ass.
I'm so excited to see what Ultra will be about. Mechanical buttons I'd bet, maybe a screen? More paddles? We'll see!
@@GameTechTalk is ultra the one with tmr or is that a whole new controller? kk4 kind of thing?
@@iceorangutan If the Ultra is out, I have not been aware but there was rumor of an Ultra version coming out, though I never managed to find out what would make it superior over the KK3 Max.