I've had on my shelf what I thought to be a dead Alienware Alpha for over a year. Your explanation to fix the CMOS battery issue is giving me some hope!
This, SteamOS3, really isn't available to the public yet, just the ancient Debian version. However, I do see it has an old nVidia gpu with linux, which can be a pain with modern games as nvidia only gives good support if they are RTX branded cards. You're usually stuck with dated drivers, usually if below GTX or misc chips like this. AMD chips are usually much better off..
I have one someone gave me long ago. I put 16gb of RAM in it and an SSD. I use it as a dedicated co-op game server for fiends to play Valheim and other games together. It still does well. I should note mine came with an i7-4785T already installed.
A note about the Steam Controller: USE THE GYRO. A major thing about the controller is that it's gyro aim assist can be toggled on and off via capacitance, meaning you can have it not do gyro until you are aiming down the sights. It's meant to be tinkered with and played around, but if you just use it as a stock controller, then it won't be great. My personal suggestion is the roller ball mode for the right trackpad, which lets you panic fling in a direction and tap it to stop. The tactile feedback for it is legendary, and remains my most beloved controller in my collection.
This is it. I was underwhelmed when I first got it, but after tinkering for each game it's amazing. Using the track pad for aiming and gyro for ADS feels so natural now.
Wow!, I just bought one yesterday for $20. I had to replace the CMOS battery to bring it to life. Once connected to the Internet it instantly started an update download. After installing, the it was no longer functional. I'm considering installing Bazzite.
@@FlameSoulis drivers for maxwell 1 didn't support Vulkan, so using proton isn't possible. You can get it to work in older linux native games, but it would require DAYS of full time tinkering for sort of running A game. Only real option for (nvidia) gpu older than pascal is windows (and maybe maxwell 2.0)
I'm watching this from a docked Steam Deck in desktop mode right now. I have it connected to a 1440p monitor and a keyboard and mouse. This is my home PC of choice. SteamOS has come a long way and Proton is great. Obviously the Deck can't run modern games at higher resolutions, so I mostly play Doom mods and emulators on here. But I love it a lot. I would buy a more powerful Steam Machine instantly. I am done with Windows. I think a lot of other people are ready to jump ship as well.
I bought one of these as a secondary TV PC and it was great. Mine came with an Xbox 360 controller and had the DVDs for Windows and SteamOS. One note about the HDMI ports, is that one of them is actually an HDMI passthrough and can only be used as such. It's a very janky implementation, as you have to have the machine on and press a specific keyboard combination and it switches the input to that device (not a capture device, it just passes it to the output). Very limited use case.
Note: there were actually two generations of the steam machine released back in the day. The other one had an AMD GPU and a port for an external GPU docking station. The other had a later Nvidia GPU (GTX 960).
thet steam controller is really something you wont be something you'll pickup and be comfortable using overnight, it takes a bit of getting used to and finding what settings work best for you. when i first started using it back when it came out in like 2015, it took me maybe a week or two before it really clicked on how to use it, but its kinda like riding a bike, once you get it then you're kinda locked in and it becomes a new norm for you. personally I like to turn off the trackball settings and just go full 1:1 mouse input. make sure you're learning how to use it with the gyro though, the track pads alone will get you like 90% of the way there but the gyro is the icing on the cake that makes it as good as it is.
Great video, per usual! The idea behind a Steam Machine is great but with how many advances have come out for Big Picture Mode since Steam Machines attempted inception and being able to basically boot into it, along with the Steam Deck covering the other bases, it just doesn't really have a niche to fill anymore. I'd love to see one still, but I can't imagine Valve putting a lot of money into it when they have the Deck to invest in.
When you try to install Nobara it's maybe problem with Secure boot was on needed to switch it off, if it was the gpu it would of got pass that and not show a picture.
I have one of these i purchased about 6 years ago. My is a true steam machine and had a hard drive with the original steam os that had completely bricked. My currently has 500gb ssd 16gb ram and wifi 6 with the i3. However seeing i7 4765t are $20 on ebay ill make the upgrade. I dont even use it but its cool to have it at max strength.
I still use mine as a HTPC and Plex server. As a bonus it works great for emulating every Nintendo console (even the one that must not be named). It fits perfectly into a entertainment unit
I remember buying a Steam Controller back when they first came out. I played the entirety of Just Cause 3 with it. It was my daily driver before I got an XBOX controller. Once you configure it just right and get used to it, it's really solid.
10:30 Yeah, I remember Borderlands 3 stuttering at a consistent pace when I played it on my Alpha. A far cry from the buttery smoothness I am getting on my current system.
I'm watching this on my Zotac Steam Machine (Intel Core i5-6400T, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960, 32 GB RAM), which was a Steam Machine Gaming Console for 6 Weeks, my Linux Desktop PC for many years and serves as my Linux Entertainment PC connected to my TV since several years. For me my Steam Machine was and still is an absolute hit (small, silent, power efficient).
I remember grabbing one of these for under $200 either in 2015 or 2016 from a GameStop trying to get rid of them. I believe it was the i3 model and upgraded the ram, installed an SSD. It ran beautifully until it one day just died, but probably should have replaced the CMOS battery in retrospect. Since I had an already dedicated PC, I just hackintoshed it instead and from memory most of everything was working and was way better than the released Mac Minis at the time.
probably wouldnt have mattered that much. the support for the old gpu's on linux is not great regardless of which distro he picked and a quick google search suggests the 860m didnt have vulkan support meaning it would be limited to linux native titles as proton requires vulkan to function.
When these were announced I loved the idea and wanted one, but by the time I was in a position to get one they were either no longer in production, rebranded (for the alienware) that I never did get one. Now days, it is kinda easy to make your own with a decently powered mini PC.
When this machine came out it was exclusively only for steam. Buying a regular desktop was a better buy at the time. Steam later came out with a sale for the steam link an controller being 95% off.
Can just as well install a random common Linux dist and run Steam big picture to get around the Nvidia issues. The specifcs workarounds for portable use isn't really needed on a home console.
I bought one of these a couple of years back to play around with. Upgrading to the i7, 16gb memory, and copper heatsinks, made it pretty nice to use (for indie titles). I always liked the Alienware Alpha. Would be nice to see a revival from Dell, now that mini-PCs are so popular and SteamOS is great now.
I have one and it is running Linux great right now. The install of Nobara and Bazzite were both pretty wonky before the recent Nvidia drivers update... But now it's running very smooth on Nobara 40. I did the SSD and RAM upgrade, may do the CPU one when the cmos battery inevitably gives out.
It was at the beginning of the year but I did do a video of the install. Batocera is a great option for the Steam machine too as it is a pretty op retro gaming beast. ruclips.net/video/Lprv6L-u9qk/видео.htmlsi=_VwY_lib80IpNiW4
The GPU could be overclockable with Afterburner, the cooling have some margin for handling more performance. Some old GPU can support flashing custom BIOS and actually messing around with the voltage.
With the official dock and the Deck, I don't really have a use case for a new SteamMachine but damn, did I want one of those back when these things were on sale! Since I was into PC building back then too, I decided to make my own using a Node 202 and a Kaby Lake Mobo with said CPU and a 1050Ti. It lasted real long even next to my gaming rig at the desk. Not gonna lie, I'd come back to that Node202 and built something if there was a board with a APU similar to the one in the Deck since I can play all my games other than VR ones already.
Hey Matt! I have 1 Alienware base model steam machine, 2 steam links (one sealed) and one steam controller. I loved all of these and now that i own both the Steam Deck LCD and OLED, the iterative improvements is quite obvious!
I love that companies are trying to remove the stranglehold Windows has on PC Gaming. If I could play every game and run every program I can on Windows on Linux I'd switch in a second, especially with all the spy crap in Windows 11, which I'm avoiding like the plague.
First at all mainly is one company no companies that is trying to do that ,because playstation or Nintendo or any other gaming company doesn't care about deleting windows on pcs, In the best case scenario companies will build you a linux machine if you pay them but not because they want to eliminate windows as a whole And Secondly you can erase telemetry on windows with a single app that have a very nice ui so what are you talking about xdd
The problem with all the steam machines at the time were: 1- the pricing was all over the place with different manufacturers. 2- Steam OS was based on Debian not Arch like the steam deck version so games didn't run that well in comparison to using Windows. And finally and the most important one 3- This came out pre Proton so they were actually expecting developers to port their games natively to Linux which a lot of them didn't want to do so valve has to change their strategy and ask gamers to instead stream Windows only games from another computer and that's why the steam link came about.
Now that they have the steam deck and are working on a replacement, they could reuse a lot of the design and features to put the same or similar board in a bigger case and sell it as a console. Just in plop in better cooling to allow higher TDP limits and make it quieter and faster, add support for external GPUs and call it a day. Without the display, battery and controller bits, they should be able to get the price down to $249 or similar to compete with the xbox series s
just looking on ebay, can only see functional versions on there in the uk, and they're all selling it for around the same price as a steamdeck... i wonder if anyone has ever bought them or if they have just sat there being relisted on ebay over and over. for that price it just makes more sense to get a steamdeck.
I don't think they should make another steam machine like console. The steam deck is a handheld but can also double as a console/desktop and works pretty good for that. I think most people would just want the official Steam OS so that they can install it on there own machines if they want. I am not really sure if there is a market for a steam machine at this time. So I think it would kinda be a waste to pour resources into one when they can probably make a Steam Deck 2 or the standalone VR headset.
Cheaper than a dell office micro PC. With an old but still dedicated laptop gpu. I still have my steam link hooked up to this day. It beat the pants off of all the software steam link solutions.
I'd love to see you install Bazzite Linux on this! I haven't seen any videos on RUclips documenting this yet, very keen on seeing how these machines can handle the current SteamOS.
It would be really cool to install Bazzite on one of these, although I'm unsure if that GPU even gets driver updates anymore. You'd probably have to buy a second gen R2 with the GTX 960M in order to even run modern Linux on it.
With the steamLink, I used to have to pair my controller to the PC that was down the stairs and just have the steam Link receive the video and audio, or else it wouldn’t work. New steam link or at-least now it seams to not have that issue. but there is no reason to buy a steam link now because you can just download the app on your tv.
I think valve would definitely return the steam machines. Probably under a different name, but they will. Now that the deck is so successful and proves that linux gaming is possible and it does feel console like, they would surely release a new "home console" that recreates the steam deck experience, but in the living room with a lot more performance. Honestly it would be stupid or at least a waste not to do it.
These things are GREAT Linux Retro gaming machine. I used mine for all of my PS1-PS3 games. and some PC gaming. Install Batocera and it becomes a beast.
You REALLY need to upgrade to either an i5 or an i7, the computer will perform SO much better with twice as many cores. I speak from experience since I did such an upgrade myself on a comparable system as yours. Just look at CPU utilization, it constantly hitting 90+ percent while it really should be below 50 percent to be sure no GPU performance is left on the table.
Honestly, Steam was on the right track with these, just fluffed the execution. Imagining these with some entry to mid range ryzen parts with Steam OS 3 in them is incredibly tempting. Especially if Valve gives Steam OS 3 the proper support it needs to be a stand alone gaming OS for ANY system. I'd dare say they could revolutionize the PC gaming space if you could legitimately put Steam OS 3 on any system, qwith official support from valve AND AMD to support all their AM4 and AM5 CPUs and 5000, 6000, and 7000 GPU lines. No joke I'd dump windows on nearly every machine I have it on currently at that point.
they didnt make those and that was the problem venders would just slap the name on any old hardware they had so they could sell it for more then it was worth. then telling devs they needed to make linux ports with there 1% market didn't fly at all. the steam deck is the correction of those errors as they now control the hardware and made huge jumps with wine. the deck is a handheld because they saw how the switch printed money. where the PC handheld market was all but dead.
Now install Bazzite for a real modern Steam Machine experience. In absence of a general use install of SteamOS 3 just yet, Bazzite should be a decent replacement. The big push for Steam Machines back in the day, specifically, was an effort to make Linux a viable alternative to Windows for PC gaming. Microsoft's moves with Windows 8 were concerning, and suggested that Microsoft might desire to lock down Windows into a walled garden that they would have full control over. Since Steam relies on PC as an open platform for it's survival, they wanted to ensure that PC gamers had a sort of escape hatch in case Windows turned pure evil. Of course Proton and Steam Deck are the most recent incarnation of this effort.
since you have the Alienware Alpha with the NVIDA gpu (there was one AMD version produced), you can't install SteamOS 3.0 via Bazzite or ChimeraOS. What you can do is install BatoceraOS on these machines and make a killer retro emulation machine. I have the i7-6700t with GTX960 version Alienware Alpha and it rocks, running up to PS3 emulation. Xbox 360 is still shaky, but that emulator is still early and is buggy. Since BatoceraOS is Linux based, it is not a resource hog like Windows is. Give it a try.
I mean, you could have installed SteamOS 2.0 on it and tested how a dead version of Linux works with games, would be been more interesting than trying to install SteamOS 3.0, having it fail and moving along. The systems probably would have came with SteamOS 2.0 on them anyways.
I really want a Steam console for my living room. My gaming laptop is alright but I know an AMD GPU powered machine would have superior performance since my woefully underpowered mini PC handles Bazzite way better.
If Valve were to release a newer version of this thing and somehow get Proton working with... well most programs Windows can run, then they'll officially become a genuine threat to the likes of Microsoft.
There must be a segment of PC users who only use their computers for gaming. Valve could pretty easily get those people off Windows and onto SteamOS if they release the right product. The Steam Deck already has people warming up to the idea.
not that it would help with anything gaming wise. That upgrade you did almost halved the CPU usage. Which I would assume may make the machine run more quietly since it's not working as hard...
I would like to play my PC games on my TV. But I don't want to use a long HDMI cable. Should I get a Steam Link or use my Nvidia Shield Android box and install the Steam Link app?
Funny im watching this video on a upgraded alienware alpha r1(i7 4790T, 16gb of ram, 240gb ssd and a mediatek wifi 6 card) that im using as my main gaming pc due to asus gaming laptops being horrible
I built my own steam machine that was better than this. I had an Intel i7 4960K, nVidia GTX 970 and 16GB DDR3 Corsair vengeance RAM on a msi Z97 motherboard.
@@arch1107 im not going to pay $2000 for a pc with a 4080 in it when i can pay $240 a year for gforce now and rent one. there is zero need for any high end pc build with gforce now......maybe thats what your afraid of.
@@hvdiv17 no one told you to do that, you decide if your pockets are too full and you want to waste your money, even better, tell no one about your stupid decisions and you will feel better about wasting money into nothing.
I've had on my shelf what I thought to be a dead Alienware Alpha for over a year. Your explanation to fix the CMOS battery issue is giving me some hope!
Let us know if it works. I really want to know ha ha. I hope it does!
Note that SteamOS was Debian-based Linux, and SteamOS3+ is all Arch-based Linux with _very different_ OS performance and kernel patches.
This, SteamOS3, really isn't available to the public yet, just the ancient Debian version. However, I do see it has an old nVidia gpu with linux, which can be a pain with modern games as nvidia only gives good support if they are RTX branded cards. You're usually stuck with dated drivers, usually if below GTX or misc chips like this. AMD chips are usually much better off..
I have one someone gave me long ago. I put 16gb of RAM in it and an SSD. I use it as a dedicated co-op game server for fiends to play Valheim and other games together. It still does well. I should note mine came with an i7-4785T already installed.
A note about the Steam Controller: USE THE GYRO. A major thing about the controller is that it's gyro aim assist can be toggled on and off via capacitance, meaning you can have it not do gyro until you are aiming down the sights. It's meant to be tinkered with and played around, but if you just use it as a stock controller, then it won't be great. My personal suggestion is the roller ball mode for the right trackpad, which lets you panic fling in a direction and tap it to stop. The tactile feedback for it is legendary, and remains my most beloved controller in my collection.
This is it. I was underwhelmed when I first got it, but after tinkering for each game it's amazing. Using the track pad for aiming and gyro for ADS feels so natural now.
Wow!, I just bought one yesterday for $20.
I had to replace the CMOS battery to bring it to life.
Once connected to the Internet it instantly started an update download.
After installing, the it was no longer functional.
I'm considering installing Bazzite.
Do it, this is what this dude should have shown on the video
Bazzite Linux would give you better performance as a Steam machine as long as you don't require invasive anti-cheat.
Bazzite still wouldn't work cus 860m is maxwell 1
@@nich98 Then... don't use Bazzite? Just install Linux and throw Steam on it, requesting it starts in Big Screen mode each time. Problem solved.
@@FlameSoulis Bazzite is fine, hell its good even. Issue is the gpu is old as dirt, poor legacy drivers, and doesnt support vulkan anyway.
@@FlameSoulis drivers for maxwell 1 didn't support Vulkan, so using proton isn't possible. You can get it to work in older linux native games, but it would require DAYS of full time tinkering for sort of running A game.
Only real option for (nvidia) gpu older than pascal is windows (and maybe maxwell 2.0)
@@nich98 nvidia has released the drivers for Maxwell 1
I'm watching this from a docked Steam Deck in desktop mode right now. I have it connected to a 1440p monitor and a keyboard and mouse. This is my home PC of choice. SteamOS has come a long way and Proton is great. Obviously the Deck can't run modern games at higher resolutions, so I mostly play Doom mods and emulators on here. But I love it a lot. I would buy a more powerful Steam Machine instantly. I am done with Windows. I think a lot of other people are ready to jump ship as well.
Lets hope valve releases steam os. Bazzite is not an option as it is too janky
A very coherent and well structured comment!
@@hornantuutti5157I don’t believe we will see it till steam deck 2.
Valve is slow. And they announced the steam deck 2 is in development
They also said the tech doesn't exist yet
I bought one of these as a secondary TV PC and it was great. Mine came with an Xbox 360 controller and had the DVDs for Windows and SteamOS. One note about the HDMI ports, is that one of them is actually an HDMI passthrough and can only be used as such. It's a very janky implementation, as you have to have the machine on and press a specific keyboard combination and it switches the input to that device (not a capture device, it just passes it to the output). Very limited use case.
And I only actually managed to get it to work once and never again.
Note: there were actually two generations of the steam machine released back in the day. The other one had an AMD GPU and a port for an external GPU docking station. The other had a later Nvidia GPU (GTX 960).
thet steam controller is really something you wont be something you'll pickup and be comfortable using overnight, it takes a bit of getting used to and finding what settings work best for you. when i first started using it back when it came out in like 2015, it took me maybe a week or two before it really clicked on how to use it, but its kinda like riding a bike, once you get it then you're kinda locked in and it becomes a new norm for you. personally I like to turn off the trackball settings and just go full 1:1 mouse input. make sure you're learning how to use it with the gyro though, the track pads alone will get you like 90% of the way there but the gyro is the icing on the cake that makes it as good as it is.
It seems like a cool game console back then, not sure how different a current steam machine would be from a PC but I would like to see that build 🎉
I remember seeing these for sale at GameStop. Crazy how much the industry has changed in 9 years.
Great video, per usual! The idea behind a Steam Machine is great but with how many advances have come out for Big Picture Mode since Steam Machines attempted inception and being able to basically boot into it, along with the Steam Deck covering the other bases, it just doesn't really have a niche to fill anymore.
I'd love to see one still, but I can't imagine Valve putting a lot of money into it when they have the Deck to invest in.
When you try to install Nobara it's maybe problem with Secure boot was on needed to switch it off, if it was the gpu it would of got pass that and not show a picture.
It didn't fail, steam os was still made, the boxes existed. It just took a nap and woke up a steam deck.
I'd love to just chuck a modern tiny-at board in one of these and make a sleeper like my beige box builds
I have one of these i purchased about 6 years ago. My is a true steam machine and had a hard drive with the original steam os that had completely bricked. My currently has 500gb ssd 16gb ram and wifi 6 with the i3. However seeing i7 4765t are $20 on ebay ill make the upgrade. I dont even use it but its cool to have it at max strength.
I still use mine as a HTPC and Plex server. As a bonus it works great for emulating every Nintendo console (even the one that must not be named). It fits perfectly into a entertainment unit
I remember buying a Steam Controller back when they first came out. I played the entirety of Just Cause 3 with it. It was my daily driver before I got an XBOX controller. Once you configure it just right and get used to it, it's really solid.
10:30 Yeah, I remember Borderlands 3 stuttering at a consistent pace when I played it on my Alpha. A far cry from the buttery smoothness I am getting on my current system.
I'm watching this on my Zotac Steam Machine (Intel Core i5-6400T, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960, 32 GB RAM), which was a Steam Machine Gaming Console for 6 Weeks, my Linux Desktop PC for many years and serves as my Linux Entertainment PC connected to my TV since several years. For me my Steam Machine was and still is an absolute hit (small, silent, power efficient).
I remember grabbing one of these for under $200 either in 2015 or 2016 from a GameStop trying to get rid of them.
I believe it was the i3 model and upgraded the ram, installed an SSD. It ran beautifully until it one day just died, but probably should have replaced the CMOS battery in retrospect.
Since I had an already dedicated PC, I just hackintoshed it instead and from memory most of everything was working and was way better than the released Mac Minis at the time.
You didn't even give it a real chance as I heard no mention of Bazzite vs Chimera vs Nobara vs PlayTron
probably wouldnt have mattered that much. the support for the old gpu's on linux is not great regardless of which distro he picked and a quick google search suggests the 860m didnt have vulkan support meaning it would be limited to linux native titles as proton requires vulkan to function.
When these were announced I loved the idea and wanted one, but by the time I was in a position to get one they were either no longer in production, rebranded (for the alienware) that I never did get one. Now days, it is kinda easy to make your own with a decently powered mini PC.
I forgot all about these things.
Wow didn’t realise steam controllers are going for $60 now. I picked a few up from GameStop for $5 when they discontinued it.
When this machine came out it was exclusively only for steam. Buying a regular desktop was a better buy at the time. Steam later came out with a sale for the steam link an controller being 95% off.
Can just as well install a random common Linux dist and run Steam big picture to get around the Nvidia issues. The specifcs workarounds for portable use isn't really needed on a home console.
My first pc was a Alienware alpha r2 with the gtx 960 and man it was a good little pc
I bought one of these a couple of years back to play around with. Upgrading to the i7, 16gb memory, and copper heatsinks, made it pretty nice to use (for indie titles). I always liked the Alienware Alpha. Would be nice to see a revival from Dell, now that mini-PCs are so popular and SteamOS is great now.
I have one and it is running Linux great right now. The install of Nobara and Bazzite were both pretty wonky before the recent Nvidia drivers update... But now it's running very smooth on Nobara 40. I did the SSD and RAM upgrade, may do the CPU one when the cmos battery inevitably gives out.
It was at the beginning of the year but I did do a video of the install. Batocera is a great option for the Steam machine too as it is a pretty op retro gaming beast.
ruclips.net/video/Lprv6L-u9qk/видео.htmlsi=_VwY_lib80IpNiW4
The GPU could be overclockable with Afterburner, the cooling have some margin for handling more performance. Some old GPU can support flashing custom BIOS and actually messing around with the voltage.
With the official dock and the Deck, I don't really have a use case for a new SteamMachine but damn, did I want one of those back when these things were on sale! Since I was into PC building back then too, I decided to make my own using a Node 202 and a Kaby Lake Mobo with said CPU and a 1050Ti. It lasted real long even next to my gaming rig at the desk.
Not gonna lie, I'd come back to that Node202 and built something if there was a board with a APU similar to the one in the Deck since I can play all my games other than VR ones already.
Hey Matt! I have 1 Alienware base model steam machine, 2 steam links (one sealed) and one steam controller. I loved all of these and now that i own both the Steam Deck LCD and OLED, the iterative improvements is quite obvious!
Original Steam Machine was actually using a GTX 780 for the prototype at least .so a graphic card hack would help a lot.
I turned my alienware into a sweet batocera machine. Runs all the way up to PS2 no problem and it fits nicely under a TV. Great use for an aging PC
I love that companies are trying to remove the stranglehold Windows has on PC Gaming. If I could play every game and run every program I can on Windows on Linux I'd switch in a second, especially with all the spy crap in Windows 11, which I'm avoiding like the plague.
First at all mainly is one company no companies that is trying to do that
,because playstation or Nintendo or any other gaming company doesn't care about deleting windows on pcs,
In the best case scenario companies will build you a linux machine if you pay them but not because they want to eliminate windows as a whole
And Secondly you can erase telemetry on windows with a single app that have a very nice ui
so what are you talking about xdd
The problem with all the steam machines at the time were:
1- the pricing was all over the place with different manufacturers.
2- Steam OS was based on Debian not Arch like the steam deck version so games didn't run that well in comparison to using Windows.
And finally and the most important one
3- This came out pre Proton so they were actually expecting developers to port their games natively to Linux which a lot of them didn't want to do so valve has to change their strategy and ask gamers to instead stream Windows only games from another computer and that's why the steam link came about.
Now that they have the steam deck and are working on a replacement, they could reuse a lot of the design and features to put the same or similar board in a bigger case and sell it as a console. Just in plop in better cooling to allow higher TDP limits and make it quieter and faster, add support for external GPUs and call it a day. Without the display, battery and controller bits, they should be able to get the price down to $249 or similar to compete with the xbox series s
I would love to see a Steam Machine with a custom case!!!
just looking on ebay, can only see functional versions on there in the uk, and they're all selling it for around the same price as a steamdeck... i wonder if anyone has ever bought them or if they have just sat there being relisted on ebay over and over. for that price it just makes more sense to get a steamdeck.
I’d like to see you build an updated version of the steam machine.
I don't think they should make another steam machine like console. The steam deck is a handheld but can also double as a console/desktop and works pretty good for that. I think most people would just want the official Steam OS so that they can install it on there own machines if they want.
I am not really sure if there is a market for a steam machine at this time. So I think it would kinda be a waste to pour resources into one when they can probably make a Steam Deck 2 or the standalone VR headset.
Cheaper than a dell office micro PC. With an old but still dedicated laptop gpu. I still have my steam link hooked up to this day. It beat the pants off of all the software steam link solutions.
I'd love to see you install Bazzite Linux on this! I haven't seen any videos on RUclips documenting this yet, very keen on seeing how these machines can handle the current SteamOS.
why not do a budget optiplex steam os build?
It would be really cool to install Bazzite on one of these, although I'm unsure if that GPU even gets driver updates anymore.
You'd probably have to buy a second gen R2 with the GTX 960M in order to even run modern Linux on it.
With the steamLink, I used to have to pair my controller to the PC that was down the stairs and just have the steam Link receive the video and audio, or else it wouldn’t work.
New steam link or at-least now it seams to not have that issue. but there is no reason to buy a steam link now because you can just download the app on your tv.
I think valve would definitely return the steam machines. Probably under a different name, but they will.
Now that the deck is so successful and proves that linux gaming is possible and it does feel console like, they would surely release a new "home console" that recreates the steam deck experience, but in the living room with a lot more performance.
Honestly it would be stupid or at least a waste not to do it.
These things are GREAT Linux Retro gaming machine. I used mine for all of my PS1-PS3 games. and some PC gaming. Install Batocera and it becomes a beast.
You REALLY need to upgrade to either an i5 or an i7, the computer will perform SO much better with twice as many cores. I speak from experience since I did such an upgrade myself on a comparable system as yours. Just look at CPU utilization, it constantly hitting 90+ percent while it really should be below 50 percent to be sure no GPU performance is left on the table.
Honestly, Steam was on the right track with these, just fluffed the execution. Imagining these with some entry to mid range ryzen parts with Steam OS 3 in them is incredibly tempting. Especially if Valve gives Steam OS 3 the proper support it needs to be a stand alone gaming OS for ANY system. I'd dare say they could revolutionize the PC gaming space if you could legitimately put Steam OS 3 on any system, qwith official support from valve AND AMD to support all their AM4 and AM5 CPUs and 5000, 6000, and 7000 GPU lines. No joke I'd dump windows on nearly every machine I have it on currently at that point.
steam machines have been replaced by mini pcs now and steam already has steamdeck i doubt they'll bring back another mini pc
they didnt make those and that was the problem venders would just slap the name on any old hardware they had so they could sell it for more then it was worth. then telling devs they needed to make linux ports with there 1% market didn't fly at all. the steam deck is the correction of those errors as they now control the hardware and made huge jumps with wine. the deck is a handheld because they saw how the switch printed money. where the PC handheld market was all but dead.
It never really made sense to me, if you were a PC gamer you already had a PC. I'm glad they made the Steam Deck though, I love my Deck.
I still have mine from around 2018.
Mines still going strong i just wish the bios let you boot from the usb on the bottom
Now install Bazzite for a real modern Steam Machine experience. In absence of a general use install of SteamOS 3 just yet, Bazzite should be a decent replacement.
The big push for Steam Machines back in the day, specifically, was an effort to make Linux a viable alternative to Windows for PC gaming. Microsoft's moves with Windows 8 were concerning, and suggested that Microsoft might desire to lock down Windows into a walled garden that they would have full control over. Since Steam relies on PC as an open platform for it's survival, they wanted to ensure that PC gamers had a sort of escape hatch in case Windows turned pure evil.
Of course Proton and Steam Deck are the most recent incarnation of this effort.
since you have the Alienware Alpha with the NVIDA gpu (there was one AMD version produced), you can't install SteamOS 3.0 via Bazzite or ChimeraOS. What you can do is install BatoceraOS on these machines and make a killer retro emulation machine. I have the i7-6700t with GTX960 version Alienware Alpha and it rocks, running up to PS3 emulation. Xbox 360 is still shaky, but that emulator is still early and is buggy. Since BatoceraOS is Linux based, it is not a resource hog like Windows is. Give it a try.
I mean, you could have installed SteamOS 2.0 on it and tested how a dead version of Linux works with games, would be been more interesting than trying to install SteamOS 3.0, having it fail and moving along. The systems probably would have came with SteamOS 2.0 on them anyways.
The seller watching this video is biting their nails right now 😂
I really want a Steam console for my living room. My gaming laptop is alright but I know an AMD GPU powered machine would have superior performance since my woefully underpowered mini PC handles Bazzite way better.
I believe a Xeon e3 1265Lv3 should work in there too, though dell could also be dell and say no
Pretty cool vide, thanks for sharing.
i think something like m920q + riser for dedicated gpu would be a good today's steam machine
or maybe something like amd's deskmini
Rx 6400 for that authentic Rx 780m performance if you’re doing a diy steam machine
Install Chimera or Bazzite OS as these are technically SteamOS
If Valve were to release a newer version of this thing and somehow get Proton working with... well most programs Windows can run, then they'll officially become a genuine threat to the likes of Microsoft.
There must be a segment of PC users who only use their computers for gaming. Valve could pretty easily get those people off Windows and onto SteamOS if they release the right product. The Steam Deck already has people warming up to the idea.
@@NothingCoherent While that is certainly far more realistic, it's not going to really make waves which is what the industry needs.
I'm pretty sure a 4790T or S exists for that 35w TDP
not that it would help with anything gaming wise. That upgrade you did almost halved the CPU usage. Which I would assume may make the machine run more quietly since it's not working as hard...
Id love a new steam machine i think the time is right to do it now
So the GPU is the bottleneck.. Who wouldve known?!?!?!
Have you tried using it as an emulator? Like installing switch emulators and such
Hooefully Steam makes Controllers Again like the Steam Deck would buy that rather than Xbox
One hdmi was an input and the other was an output. And there is a usb hidden under the system 😊
I would like to play my PC games on my TV. But I don't want to use a long HDMI cable.
Should I get a Steam Link or use my Nvidia Shield Android box and install the Steam Link app?
get the Shield, you can do a lot more with it
i put a lenovo p720q motherboard with a p1000 quadro in the case with a mod.
can you put steam os (variant) and test it ?
The Gen 2 version is much better and has a port to use the alienware graphic amplifier which u can use an external card.
Try SteamOS on it with the same game tests
what about the steam OS?
you should trying putting bazite os on top
Funny im watching this video on a upgraded alienware alpha r1(i7 4790T, 16gb of ram, 240gb ssd and a mediatek wifi 6 card) that im using as my main gaming pc due to asus gaming laptops being horrible
I own a steam machine when it was clearing out for 5$
modern steam machine plz......
I built my own steam machine that was better than this. I had an Intel i7 4960K, nVidia GTX 970 and 16GB DDR3 Corsair vengeance RAM on a msi Z97 motherboard.
Upgrade the cpu and show us!
Why you use windows
So a long story short this is not a steam machine! 😂
Why you use windows :(
Great video, but would have loved to see you install Linux on it
Steam machine, install windows... ok... well...
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I hasve a friend that has the steam contorleler
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i bought the alienware alpha lol
The French man is interested
good
400 views in 51 minutes bro fell off
idk seems like an average size system to me
no need for a steam box just get a cheap pc and run gforce now.
no, i will not pay to nvidia to stream content, you do that
@@arch1107 im not going to pay $2000 for a pc with a 4080 in it when i can pay $240 a year for gforce now and rent one.
there is zero need for any high end pc build with gforce now......maybe thats what your afraid of.
@@hvdiv17 no one told you to do that, you decide if your pockets are too full and you want to waste your money, even better, tell no one about your stupid decisions and you will feel better about wasting money into nothing.
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