THANK YOU NATE! For those of us who have followed this case, had our hearts broken for the victims and invested in seeing justice… the audio is most definitely not too long! We are not able to view the trial, but I’m grateful for East Idaho News allowing us to hear it. God bless you Nate.
From a non-American, non-religious viewpoint, this is sheer insanity! Not legally, of course. But the idea that anyone wanted to believe Chad or Lori about anything is batshit bonkers.
you understand that 95% of residents in the town concerned are mormons, right? the bureaucracy, politics, bitchiness and hypocrisy involved in that is worse than in any government. not all of them believe the wacko ideas of chad or lori of course but chad was held up on a pedestal and had significant followers in the community. the things ppl will believe is scary AF.
They were drunk on power. Melanie Boudreaux better be getting ready to be aunt Lori’s cellmate. They are out of their minds, all of them. They really believed the second coming was July 20th 2020 and the ‘dark’ ones were zombies and they killed them to release them to be with Jesus. It’s absolutely batshit crazy. You can’t make this stuff up. Well, Joseph Smith did with a magic hat🤣😂🤷🏼♂️
From the same standpoint as yours, I agree, Mark. Your comment reminded me of a quote by Steven Weinberg: 'With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion". I'm not saying Lori and Chad clasify as "good" under any classification, some of the people in their following must have been good people, albeit conditioned and stupid.
Yes, I really did. I'm a defense attorney, and this guy is doing his opening statement all wrong. A lawyer can represent a client in a homicide case without apologizing for his client and making out his case to "be difficult." I mean, WHO CARES ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE AS A LAWYER, PUBLIC DEFENDER, AND HOW DIFFICULT THESE KIND OF CASES ARE??? Good grief, I could teach this lawyer how to do better trial advocacy, and I have only practiced since 2002. Not to mention he's boring to listen to, and I'm listening to these opening statements on my lunch hour before I have a court docket of my own. Time to nap.
@@richardlee5536 You've "only" been practicing since 2002?! Um, that's more than 20 YEARS! How many years will it take for you to finally consider yourself experienced? Another 30 or 40, perhaps?!?!
Nate thank you so much for you’re commitment to this case from the beginning and the continued commitment to see this case until the end. I truly appreciate you for being there and getting us the audio from the trial.
I can’t wait for Chad’s trial when he turns on her. Would love to see her face when she realizes he will throw her under the bus in an attempt to save himself. I often wonder if Tylee called her mom out on her behavior and that is what got her killed. Her final moments must have been terrifying and heartbreaking knowing her mother was turning on her. I hope her spirit is free and at peace with JJ.
I don't think it was anything as well thought out or enlightened as that. Chad was looking for homes in Hawaii in ¿early 2019? and said there were no minor children that were going to be living w them. I think it was their plan from the start... To create their own little utopia, ridding the world of ANYONE and EVERYONE that stood to taint their "prefect world"
Whatever the case, it's a damn shame they couldn't have just taken their own selfish little lives and left the world a MUCH BETTER PLACE without either of their psycho asses!
Sadly, it will not matter if he does throw her under the bus. Her trial will be done and nothing he says can get her convicted. She already beat the death penalty so basically she gets to live out her natural life, the only hope is that it's not plesant.
I am grateful that you let the audio of this trial for us who are following this case to listen to. Please keep on doing this throughout the whole trial. Thank you.
Can't hear anything over the constant typing sound , I guess my ears are too sensitive! They should have just televised this trial honestly the tax payers have a right to see it
I wish it were televised. Lori is a classic example of someone you'd never see coming until its too late. Real life scenarios work better than literature or movies- which have already came out on Lori anyhow.
I know! I was like… is he low key apologizing for having to represent her? I get it but pls try harder so we don’t have ineffective counsel BS from her.
I’m sure is not thrilled to do this , as a human it must be hard for him to defend a monster like this . But someone have to do it also … so I get why he went this way .
@@Junebiz104L On the contrary. From beginning to end she painted a very cogent picture of what took place and when and how and what the state would present.
Im absolutely shocked by the defense opening statement. If their strategy is to get a guilty verdict overturned due to attorney incompetence then they are headed in the right direction.
From Tennessee I have watched this ongoing saga since day one, mainly because I spent my 30 year career as a law enforcement child abuse investigator. Thank you Nate for being there since the beginning and sticking with this case. You are a blessing to your profession, which cannot be said for all news medias. I hope your employer knows how valuable you are and you are compensated for your hard work. I am sure your family is proud of your legacy. God bless you and your family.
I appreciate the individual videos, for each witness/stage of the trial. I hope you guys keep posting the audio this way Thanks for all your hard work!
Her attorney says we don’t know when, where, how or why they were killed.. then goes on to say Lori’s alibi says that she was in her apartment when they were killed in Alex’s apartment?? So she knows when, and where.. yet continues on to Hawaii to get married? And doesn’t report anything to law enforcement. Thats all they’ve got? Yeah good luck with that 😂
Thank you for making the audio public! I’ve been following this case closely since I heard about it and can’t believe evil like this exists in this world
Jury...Defense seemed to be potentially fishing for sympathy toward them during their opening statement by Mr Archibald when he happened to state his office was bombed 8 yrs ago? I thought that was the strangest fact I have ever heard in court during my years clerking in a state system, and my mother in law, retired exec secretary for superior court judges also shared my opinion, loudly...and that’s the loudest I’ve ever heard her voice in over 30 years!
I agree. The beginning where he was making a point to emphasize that he was assigned this case, and mentioning that his office has been targeted before, translated to me as "please don't come for me".
So the defense is just sticking super close to what Lori gave them. "I was somewhere else" Fair enough. But that doesn't work for either murder or conspiracy to murder. Which I'm sure they know. But that's what Vallow wants, so that's what they have to go with. I appreciate that he kept it short. How on earth will they dance around that Lori is now saying that she knows exactly where and when the children were murdered, and did and said nothing about it.
These poor defense attorneys in thse types of cases, the first thing they say is "I was assigned to this case" they throw in the towel from the jump. then they just phone it in for the rest of the trial
I don’t know if you watched the video with Nate’s commentary but he said it didn’t really look like she had any reaction to the pictures of those poor babies dead bodies. She is a disgusting person if you can call her that. I hope she rots in hell, where she can be tormented by demons and then she can think of all her “zombies”
@@SensiblyTina even that other witch Leticia Stout hid her face and put her hands over her ears out of guilt for killing little Gannon. He was her step son I might add. This woman LV doesn't deserve the title, Mother.
@@SensiblyTina She's a narcissistic psychopath, so, of course, she has no feelings of guilt or remorse. I recommend a brilliant psychological analysis by Live Abuse Free (a RUclips channel) 😉
Remember in the Mark Sievers trial ...he wasn't there either. He got the death penalty. You don't have to be there for the dirty work that you ordered to be done!
at this point i don’t even care what if any involvement she actually had in the murders. its enough for me that she (a) did nothing to find the ‘missing’ children and (b) kept up the story that she knew where the children were and that they were safe and in a secret location for their own good. any woman who prioritises herself and chasing d*** over her kids should get double whatever sentence anyone else gets. her sickly lovey dovey calls with chad are cringe AF so if her defence is going to be ‘i was brainwashed’ or ‘i acted under duress’, she knows what she can do with those. thank god they are trying these cases together - what are the chances her spouse, chad’s spouse AND her 2 kids are all dead, independently of each other. the ‘mental health’ card won’t wash either.
Trying what cases together? They severed the trial of Chad with Lori’s. Edit: do you mean the murder case involving Charles? I thought his murder case is going to be in Arizona, where there is jurisdiction.
Thank you Nate for all you do. It helps to listen to audio. I just wish when they talked they weren't so close to the person typing. Lol little annoying in the background of audio but so grateful to be able to hear this!
Its the reporters too. Thsts why it's so loud because they are all typing where Nate is recording. The jurors have already complained about it so I'd not be shocked if Boyce doesn't put a stop to it
IF it is ONLY the court reporter typing, then for sure, the microphone should be muted - they had problems with over sensitive microphones picking up whisperings during the recordings in jury selection week. PLEASE resolve the tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap......... it's like a dripping tap!!!!
@@kimshayler4501 it was addressed in court ..... it was the reporters all typing at the same time due to there been no live coverage. Judge Boyce said the jurors had complained and he had given the court the warning to stop typing so loudly or lap tops would have to be banned.
So Lori admits she knows when her children died and where they died and where she was. Never calling police on her brother. Sure she sounds like she's innocent. 🙄
Lori alibi is she was not in Alex apartment when JJ and Tylee were killed.....how does she know they were killed there? Is there any evidence of where it happened?
Poor babies. They are about the same age as my children, and tylee reminds me of my daughter. It just breaks my heart. I wish the authorities had listened to Charles. There needs to be a serious look into the child protection system and police who dealt with this case, too. I'm so sorry for Tammy and her children, too. It's all so sad 😞
Believe me you are not alone in being disappointed about the no cameras allowed. It was ruled at the last hour. We all find it unconstitutional! We've all signed petitions but to no avail. Last week the court ordered that the grandparents couldn't sit in the courtroom during trial. But the prosecution got around the ruling.
Archibald needs to check his numbers. Lori is not one of SIX children. She is one of FIVE. Lori is not a stepmother to TWO. (Charles Vallow's boys) but also stepmother to Chad's FIVE children. It makes his research look sloppy....let's hope he gets sloppier....may justice finally be served to Lori Vallow. Hell isn't hot enough for her IMO.
Lori has two brothers, a sister who died as a baby, a sister who died as an adult and her sister Summer. I think it was in Summer's testimony that it was revealed the baby sister that died before Lori was born.
I'm surprised the defense attorney can speak on the fact that he is an assigned public defender and the taxpaying jurors are helping to fund his law office 🥴 his opening was terrible
her alibi is stupid because (1) you don’t have to be present to be guilty (2) one of her alibi witnesses is a prosecution witness so why would she think she’d back up her story and (3) her lawyer just said nobody knows where/when/how the kids died so how can she say they died in her brother’s apartment and therefore she was in her own apartment?
They DID do an autopsy on Tammy. They had to resume her body to do it. That's how they know how she died. Chad didn't want an autopsy done on her but once the police got involved that's when they resumed her body and did the autopsy.
@@Pandalynn369 But she was buried without an autopsy. If this case hadn't come to light her untimely and now apparently her death wouldn't have been a Murder. Any person under 55 who dies of no obvious trauma ( car accident) or disease should automatically have an autopsy. That should be a law.
@@Pandalynn369 they only Exhumed Tammy's remains after the children's remains were found on his property. If not her death wouldn't have been under suspicion. If a mandatory autopsy had been done possibly the children would still be alive today. Another travesty is Alex's death. No autopsy Again. Plus he was cremated. So no evidence of foul play. Considering the way law enforcement handled Charles Vallow's obvious ambush and murder, I'm not convinced even if there had been autopsy done of both of the above charges would have been filed. The kids were doomed due to dumb luck and inept law enforcement.
The only time that an autopsy isn’t required here in Canada is if the person died in the hospital. If the death occurred anywhere else, than an autopsy is required.
The Defense's opening statement was about as passionate as watching paint dry. It was if he was reading it for the first time and he certainly hadn't memorized any of it. If this dry, emotionless opening statement is an indicator of things to come in the trial, the Prosecution will win this case hands down.
Agreed. How could anyone believe Lori is not guilty, including him? It sounds like he's going through the motions hoping someone doesn't bomb his office again. If he were to add emotion to his statements it could easily push people far enough to attack like rubbing salt in the wound.
@@judichristophersen7238 I agree with you 100 percent but the Judge took the DP off the table on March 22, 2023 - Lori Vallow will not face the death penalty if she is convicted of murder in the deaths of her two children.
@ time of this video 46:31, the defense says "We need to decide where did it happen"? Hum, the children's dismembered bodies were found in a shallow grave, burned in Chad's backyard, duh. That was why he was arrested. Next...
WOW, you can really hear tons of typing in the background! I think Lindsey should have put some emotion into her opening statement, she sounded like a robot!
Hopefully her lawyers get it together since so far they sound disastrous, and it would be a travesty if the case ends up eventually being overturned because of their incompetence. They’ve certainly got an impossible task trying to convince the jury of her innocence, since a blind man could see from a mile away how guilty she is.
Maybe her lawyers do have it together, perhaps there isn’t a whole lotta evidence to support a solid defense without committing perjury so Hopefully her lawyers are just being honest and true here
@@Junebiz104L They haven’t presented any evidence since A.) It was the first day of the trial with the jury seated, and the attorneys were giving their opening statements which isn’t the point in the trial when evidence is presented, and B.) Typically the defence doesn’t present evidence first since, if you understand the criminal justice system in the United States, the accused has the right to the presumption of innocence until otherwise proven guilty, and had you listened to the council for defence they actually stated just that, the burden of proof isn’t with the accused and it’s not up to them to prove their innocence but rather the burden is on the prosecution since it is up to them to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. For this reason the prosecution presents their witness testimony and physical evidence and the defence then refutes the evidence by bringing the evidence brought forth by the prosecution into question, meaning they make some argument showing how the evidence doesn’t prove what the prosecution claims it does, or by presenting witness testimony or physical evidence which contradicts the evidence of the prosecution. The evidence presented by the defence typically relies upon expert testimony which disagrees with the prosecution experts, or physical evidence which exonerates the accused by proving they could not have committed the crimes they are charged with. And if they had any such evidence they would have disclosed it as soon as it was obtained and had their client released and the charges dropped, but that didn’t happen likely because no such evidence exists. Unless of course you believe the accused simply prefers to remain incarcerated even when there is evidence to exonerate them. My point was regarding the dry, monotone nature of the defence’s opening statements. One would think having a client who is accused of such heinous acts and on trial for such serious charges yet is innocent, that the defence might have a slight bit of passion in defending an innocent individual, but he read his opening in the same tone someone would read the instructions on how to change an ink cartridge on their printer. Anyway, it seems some people simply can’t control their urge to post comments when they actually have nothing to contribute and just feel the need to be contrary for attention. Well you got it.
@@Junebiz104L Also, council, meaning the lawyers, generally don’t testify under oath at a trial where they are acting as the defence or prosecution attorneys, so the chances that they will commit perjury is basically non existent. If counsel is found to have broken any of the rules of the court they may be found in contempt of court and in extreme circumstances they are removed from the case, fined and their license maybe be revoked or they may even be disbarred, but usually they aren’t considered perjurious since they are not testifying under oath which is a condition for the charge of perjury. Maybe learn a bit more about the law and how the justice system actually works before offering your very uninformed opinion so as to avoid appearing foolish.
I came to the comments for this. That defense opening statement was garbage… he read his resume for half on of it. Ya’ll didn’t learn any flare or showmanship working this job SINCE THE 90’S?!?
Defense had nothing. Literally had so much nothing he had to talk about himself his reputation, not once did he say my client didn't do this or anything it was swirly twirly talk... he really believes in his case 😂 Also totally infuriated me when he said something like " you good citizens, taxpayers paid me to represent her and I thank you for that".....Dude.... screw you...
I’ve been looking forward to hearing this trial since we don’t have any cameras and only audio it’s extremely hard to listen to over the typing. Please I hope they have this fixed or else I’m not going to be able to even listen to this trial.
I do not believe her alibi that was written for her. It’s more bs from the woman who claimed she knew exactly where they were and they were safe and happy! Yes, once dead, they were finally safe FROM HER SCHEMING AND MANIPULATING! No one has the right to steal the future from anyone....Especially children, who have no choice but to trust their family to help them achieve their future best life! The shock those kids suffered is a hell of its own, and Nobody deserves the betrayal that woman put them through! Tylee probably knew deep down after the Charles Murder scheme she was forced to play into, but denial is greatest in our teen years when the truth looks like a sci fi plot!
Who is the defence lawyer? He certainly doesn’t sound confident ! But can’t blame him for that, imagine getting this case arrive on your desk, you gotta defend Lori Vallow!!
I imagine a book and film about these defendants and these crimes will be forthcoming soon...??? Like the saying goes, "You can't make this story up." We can't but, they actually contrived this scheme and worse, saw it through... To their innocent victims: May you all rest in perfect peace, forever...
They don't even suggest a defense for her!!! I never thought she stood a chance anyway of being found not guilty, but with these attorneys she's toast!!
@@shivafarajifar yes you are right, it could be that. She had to sign an paper that she would not appeal on ineffective defense, because she wanted her trial soon. She would not sign off on her right to a speedy trial.
I love that u r letting us hear it all. If it’s too long for some they can skip forward. But I have waited too long for all of this and very much appreciate all you r doing
Tylee would probably be about to graduate from college now. Lori, Chad and Alex stole it ALL from her and JJ too! And Tammy was preparing to run a 5K!!! It just makes me so mad!!
I greatly appreciate this audio. It’s going to be a very interesting trial!! BUT, WHY ARE THERE SOOOOO MANY COMMERCIALS? Way to many and way to often. Can you possibly play them at the very beginning of each trial day video so we aren’t constantly being interrupted? It’s really irritating and disruptive. I know I’m out of line with this but... I’m sure that I’m not the only person who feels this way. Is there anything that you can do about this? If there is, I sincerely thank you. If not, I will continue to pull my hair out. 🥰🙏🏼
The ads pay the page. The page pays for the audio...so the page should just foot the bill entirely on their own for the publics listening pleasure? You can skip most after 5 seconds anyway. I must say, I feel more grateful to listen than I feel entitled, that's for sure.
I feel entitled to listen the same way we listened and watched so many other criminal trials and similar to the same way Lori felt entitled enough to request no cameras and damn near no people to witness her stand trial as a serial killer
Wow. The defender’s lawyer’s opening statement is all about him. If I was on the jury I would be thinking he must not have much to say about her. She disgusts me.
Literally. From that opening statement I got his resume and a personal story about a bombing at his office. Great counsel. I totally see their side now 🥴👍🏻
How could you know where and when it was happening but not be guilty ? Twice ? This thing is going to go mental before she goes to prison I’m taking bets. I’m in Idaho
I wonder if Lori has wakened from her delusional nightmare. I think she will one day if she hasn’t already…when she does I don’t see how she will continue in this probation 🙄. Imagine her horror. 🧟♀️
@Joann W exactly . I don't blame them either. Apparently super expensive. No one should be paying for it in the first place. Annoying, but something I can deal with due to the circumstances.
I usually watch at night from my TV, so I can't make any comments. So New Jersey is loving your coverage!! What are you going to cover when these trials are over? Also your daughter is exceptional!
Brooo.. you CANNOT be a defense attorney and sound like that. He nearly bored me to death. GUIILTY!!! No need for a trial. Please dont make me listen to that man 😭
I’m about to fall asleep. This guy is so boring and monotone, and telling us about things that nobody cares about or has anything to do with this case. Prosecutor had a much better opening statement. Imo
I loved it. He basically stood up there and said, “look, we all know she did some evil things here. I was assigned to the case so I’m just here to make sure procedures are following the law before a final conviction is made. Thanks for paying my salary with your taxes, btw.” 😂
OMG!! 🥱🥱🥱 Somebody give this man a coffee!! I completely zoned out and started to read the comments, way more interesting!! I understand that the burden of proving guilt rests with the prosecution and the defense do not have any burden to prove innocence, BUT, if they decide to make an opening statement, then make a STATEMENT.......not a monologue of ???? whatever it was?????
THANK YOU NATE! For those of us who have followed this case, had our hearts broken for the victims and invested in seeing justice… the audio is most definitely not too long! We are not able to view the trial, but I’m grateful for East Idaho News allowing us to hear it. God bless you Nate.
Been waiting for this since the first time Nate covered the kids being missing. Thank you Nate Eaton
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From a non-American, non-religious viewpoint, this is sheer insanity! Not legally, of course. But the idea that anyone wanted to believe Chad or Lori about anything is batshit bonkers.
you understand that 95% of residents in the town concerned are mormons, right? the bureaucracy, politics, bitchiness and hypocrisy involved in that is worse than in any government. not all of them believe the wacko ideas of chad or lori of course but chad was held up on a pedestal and had significant followers in the community. the things ppl will believe is scary AF.
They were drunk on power. Melanie Boudreaux better be getting ready to be aunt Lori’s cellmate. They are out of their minds, all of them. They really believed the second coming was July 20th 2020 and the ‘dark’ ones were zombies and they killed them to release them to be with Jesus. It’s absolutely batshit crazy. You can’t make this stuff up. Well, Joseph Smith did with a magic hat🤣😂🤷🏼♂️
Isn’t that a part of how the US started?
I agree. Religion poisons everything said Christopher Hitchens and I agree.
From the same standpoint as yours, I agree, Mark. Your comment reminded me of a quote by Steven Weinberg: 'With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion". I'm not saying Lori and Chad clasify as "good" under any classification, some of the people in their following must have been good people, albeit conditioned and stupid.
I feel like Mr. Archibald was basically apologizing for representing Lori. Did anyone else pick up on that undertone?
Yes, I really did. I'm a defense attorney, and this guy is doing his opening statement all wrong. A lawyer can represent a client in a homicide case without apologizing for his client and making out his case to "be difficult." I mean, WHO CARES ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE AS A LAWYER, PUBLIC DEFENDER, AND HOW DIFFICULT THESE KIND OF CASES ARE??? Good grief, I could teach this lawyer how to do better trial advocacy, and I have only practiced since 2002. Not to mention he's boring to listen to, and I'm listening to these opening statements on my lunch hour before I have a court docket of my own. Time to nap.
Probably because hes father and has feelings @@richardlee5536
It he's job but he probably a dad or grandpa himself I think that was is why he said that he has a heart ❤️
@@richardlee5536 You've "only" been practicing since 2002?! Um, that's more than 20 YEARS! How many years will it take for you to finally consider yourself experienced? Another 30 or 40, perhaps?!?!
@@heatherh5450 yes, another 30 or 40 years should do it. I can't believe how many people believe that over 20 years is "unexperienced."
Nate thank you so much for you’re commitment to this case from the beginning and the continued commitment to see this case until the end. I truly appreciate you for being there and getting us the audio from the trial.
I can’t wait for Chad’s trial when he turns on her. Would love to see her face when she realizes he will throw her under the bus in an attempt to save himself. I often wonder if Tylee called her mom out on her behavior and that is what got her killed. Her final moments must have been terrifying and heartbreaking knowing her mother was turning on her. I hope her spirit is free and at peace with JJ.
I don't think it was anything as well thought out or enlightened as that. Chad was looking for homes in Hawaii in ¿early 2019? and said there were no minor children that were going to be living w them.
I think it was their plan from the start... To create their own little utopia, ridding the world of ANYONE and EVERYONE that stood to taint their "prefect world"
Whatever the case, it's a damn shame they couldn't have just taken their own selfish little lives and left the world a MUCH BETTER PLACE without either of their psycho asses!
I'm sure Lori will turn on Chad first. She's a narcissistic psychopath.
Sadly, it will not matter if he does throw her under the bus. Her trial will be done and nothing he says can get her convicted. She already beat the death penalty so basically she gets to live out her natural life, the only hope is that it's not plesant.
I believe it is free, and that she up there in good company with the others who died at the hands of the three of them,,,Alex is in hell for sure
And you can bet your bottom dollar that the state can PROVE everything you just heard!!!!
JUSTICE for JJ, Tylee, Tammy & Charles.
I am grateful that you let the audio of this trial for us who are following this case to listen to. Please keep on doing this throughout the whole trial. Thank you.
Can't hear anything over the constant typing sound , I guess my ears are too sensitive! They should have just televised this trial honestly the tax payers have a right to see it
I am so disappointed this is not televised. Audio is better than nothing, but still. Come on Idaho!!
Agreed! The judge, in my opinion, has given these monsters far more leniency than they will ever deserve.
The judge didn't want her showing herself off for the cameras.
I agree with the judge. Now the grifter body language channels cannot monetize yet another trial. This is not entertainment, but a real life trial.
I wish it were televised. Lori is a classic example of someone you'd never see coming until its too late. Real life scenarios work better than literature or movies- which have already came out on Lori anyhow.
I saw her coming a mile away.,but I'm a cynic.
Defense lawyers is like a commercial opening statement and at the end please don’t hurt our office 😅 we are just lawyers lol
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I know! I was like… is he low key apologizing for having to represent her? I get it but pls try harder so we don’t have ineffective counsel BS from her.
I’m sure is not thrilled to do this , as a human it must be hard for him to defend a monster like this . But someone have to do it also … so I get why he went this way .
A big Thank You to East Idaho News folks for providing the audios for this trial!!! Y'all ROCK!
Excellent opening statement by the prosecution. 😊
Omg, the defense lawyer spends his time talking about himself?????
Lol
Not really excellent it was just okay
@@Junebiz104L On the contrary.
From beginning to end she painted a very cogent picture of what took place and when and how and what the state would present.
@@georgiaamanatides4207 just my opinion!
It was ok. She could have done so much better. It really only made sense if you were already somewhat familiar with the case.
I had to move him to 2X bc it was getting physically painful the way he drip drops info when we’re PARCHED.
Im absolutely shocked by the defense opening statement. If their strategy is to get a guilty verdict overturned due to attorney incompetence then they are headed in the right direction.
I came to the comments to see if anyone else thinks so bc from that opening statement & their cross exams that go nowhere?… yikes.
Thank you for paying your taxes? Great defense. She has no defense. Why not just plead guilty?
From Tennessee I have watched this ongoing saga since day one, mainly because I spent my 30 year career as a law enforcement child abuse investigator. Thank you Nate for being there since the beginning and sticking with this case. You are a blessing to your profession, which cannot be said for all news medias. I hope your employer knows how valuable you are and you are compensated for your hard work. I am sure your family is proud of your legacy. God bless you and your family.
They really need to move the mic further from that keyboard. It is so distracting!
I appreciate the individual videos, for each witness/stage of the trial. I hope you guys keep posting the audio this way
Thanks for all your hard work!
Her attorney says we don’t know when, where, how or why they were killed.. then goes on to say Lori’s alibi says that she was in her apartment when they were killed in Alex’s apartment?? So she knows when, and where.. yet continues on to Hawaii to get married? And doesn’t report anything to law enforcement.
Thats all they’ve got?
Yeah good luck with that 😂
You hit that on the head.
Forget the melatonin. This defense attorney will have me sleeping five times sooner.
Oh, thank you for this, EIN, and Nate. I appreciate it more than I can say and I am beyond ready to see Justice served here
Thank you for making the audio public! I’ve been following this case closely since I heard about it and can’t believe evil like this exists in this world
It's terrifying!!!
Thank you for this audio, Nate & team! Your commitment to rightful justice for these kiddos and Tammy is commendable. 💙 much love to y’all from Texas.
Jury...Defense seemed to be potentially fishing for sympathy toward them during their opening statement by Mr Archibald when he happened to state his office was bombed 8 yrs ago? I thought that was the strangest fact I have ever heard in court during my years clerking in a state system, and my mother in law, retired exec secretary for superior court judges also shared my opinion, loudly...and that’s the loudest I’ve ever heard her voice in over 30 years!
😂😂😂
It sure was strange!
Finally the truth is coming out 🙏🏻
Thank you Nate 🌹
Sounds to me like Archibald thinks Lori is guilty.
I agree. The beginning where he was making a point to emphasize that he was assigned this case, and mentioning that his office has been targeted before, translated to me as "please don't come for me".
Everybody does, lol.
Oh wow the defense sounds defeated already 😂
So the defense is just sticking super close to what Lori gave them.
"I was somewhere else"
Fair enough. But that doesn't work for either murder or conspiracy to murder.
Which I'm sure they know. But that's what Vallow wants, so that's what they have to go with.
I appreciate that he kept it short.
How on earth will they dance around that Lori is now saying that she knows exactly where and when the children were murdered, and did and said nothing about it.
Its their job 🤷♀️
I wondered if Lori would throw Chad under the bus, but not a peep of that defense yet.
These poor defense attorneys in thse types of cases, the first thing they say is "I was assigned to this case" they throw in the towel from the jump. then they just phone it in for the rest of the trial
@@teresathayn5170 nah she’ll throw her dead brother under the bus before she throws chad under
@@robbymonaco3738 In a very nice way, the Defense will work w the Prosecutor to toss Lori under the bus.
Thank you East Idaho News
Thank you for posting this! Sure wish I could see Lori’s face when the bodies of Tylee and JJ were shown.
I don’t know if you watched the video with Nate’s commentary but he said it didn’t really look like she had any reaction to the pictures of those poor babies dead bodies. She is a disgusting person if you can call her that. I hope she rots in hell, where she can be tormented by demons and then she can think of all her “zombies”
@@SensiblyTina She's a cold duck, isn't she?
The child of her body dismembered and burned and no reaction whatsoever.
Chilling, isn't it?
@@SensiblyTina even that other witch Leticia Stout hid her face and put her hands over her ears out of guilt for killing little Gannon.
He was her step son I might add.
This woman LV doesn't deserve the title, Mother.
@@SensiblyTina She's a narcissistic psychopath, so, of course, she has no feelings of guilt or remorse. I recommend a brilliant psychological analysis by Live Abuse Free (a RUclips channel) 😉
Remember in the Mark Sievers trial ...he wasn't there either. He got the death penalty. You don't have to be there for the dirty work that you ordered to be done!
thx for these nate and east idaho news u got my sub
at this point i don’t even care what if any involvement she actually had in the murders. its enough for me that she (a) did nothing to find the ‘missing’ children and (b) kept up the story that she knew where the children were and that they were safe and in a secret location for their own good. any woman who prioritises herself and chasing d*** over her kids should get double whatever sentence anyone else gets. her sickly lovey dovey calls with chad are cringe AF so if her defence is going to be ‘i was brainwashed’ or ‘i acted under duress’, she knows what she can do with those. thank god they are trying these cases together - what are the chances her spouse, chad’s spouse AND her 2 kids are all dead, independently of each other. the ‘mental health’ card won’t wash either.
⚖️🎯⚖️ Exactly! ⚖️🎯⚖️
Trying what cases together? They severed the trial of Chad with Lori’s.
Edit: do you mean the murder case involving Charles? I thought his murder case is going to be in Arizona, where there is jurisdiction.
Thank you Nate, appreciate your diligence in keeping us informed about this case.
Thank you Nate for all you do. It helps to listen to audio. I just wish when they talked they weren't so close to the person typing. Lol little annoying in the background of audio but so grateful to be able to hear this!
They need to move the microphone away from the court reporter. All you hear is their typing.
It's making me crazy 🤭😬
Its the reporters too. Thsts why it's so loud because they are all typing where Nate is recording.
The jurors have already complained about it so I'd not be shocked if Boyce doesn't put a stop to it
IF it is ONLY the court reporter typing, then for sure, the microphone should be muted - they had problems with over sensitive microphones picking up whisperings during the recordings in jury selection week. PLEASE resolve the tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap......... it's like a dripping tap!!!!
@@kimshayler4501 it was addressed in court ..... it was the reporters all typing at the same time due to there been no live coverage. Judge Boyce said the jurors had complained and he had given the court the warning to stop typing so loudly or lap tops would have to be banned.
So Lori admits she knows when her children died and where they died and where she was. Never calling police on her brother. Sure she sounds like she's innocent. 🙄
So. Much. Typing! 😅 Thank you for bring this to us! Listen from Northern Lower Michigan!
Your a rock star Nate….with a heart of gold. Much love from Hamilton Ontario Canada.
Lori alibi is she was not in Alex apartment when JJ and Tylee were killed.....how does she know they were killed there? Is there any evidence of where it happened?
Thank you Nate! I listened to the whole thing. I’m thankful we can hear what is going on. From Spokane Wa.
Yikes. That was probably the worst and most boring defense opening statement I have ever heard.
Thank you for this!!! Hi Nate, I'm Joss :)
Poor babies. They are about the same age as my children, and tylee reminds me of my daughter. It just breaks my heart. I wish the authorities had listened to Charles. There needs to be a serious look into the child protection system and police who dealt with this case, too.
I'm so sorry for Tammy and her children, too. It's all so sad 😞
The recording of Charles speaking with police is so incredibly sad.
Can't save the world .... can't stop evil, usually. Can't even clean up the mess, but we can try to help.
Not American but waiting years for this case and very disappointed it's not televised
Believe me you are not alone in being disappointed about the no cameras allowed.
It was ruled at the last hour. We all find it unconstitutional!
We've all signed petitions but to no avail.
Last week the court ordered that the grandparents couldn't sit in the courtroom during trial.
But the prosecution got around the ruling.
Thank you for this audio!!
Archibald needs to check his numbers. Lori is not one of SIX children. She is one of FIVE. Lori is not a stepmother to TWO. (Charles Vallow's boys) but also stepmother to Chad's FIVE children. It makes his research look sloppy....let's hope he gets sloppier....may justice finally be served to Lori Vallow. Hell isn't hot enough for her IMO.
Lori has two brothers, a sister who died as a baby, a sister who died as an adult and her sister Summer. I think it was in Summer's testimony that it was revealed the baby sister that died before Lori was born.
I want her lawyer to read a book to me at night so I can relax and fall asleep.
Thank you Nate for posting so promptly. Living in the UK 🇬🇧 means I can watch the Gannon Stauch case and catch up on the lori case the next morning.
I'm doing the same.
Gannon Staunch case is so heartbreaking.
His stepmother is a piece of work.
The defense attorney could talk you into a coma.
I'm surprised the defense attorney can speak on the fact that he is an assigned public defender and the taxpaying jurors are helping to fund his law office 🥴 his opening was terrible
I thought the same thing!! I had to continue scrolling through the comments. I’m surprised there aren’t more like this.
@@sunlan3971 same. & his cross exams seem to go nowhere.
her alibi is stupid because (1) you don’t have to be present to be guilty (2) one of her alibi witnesses is a prosecution witness so why would she think she’d back up her story and (3) her lawyer just said nobody knows where/when/how the kids died so how can she say they died in her brother’s apartment and therefore she was in her own apartment?
The book of Mormon IS NOT the Bible.
Great opening statement by the prosecution.
I think it should be a law to do an autopsy .
I literally can not believe they didn't on Tammy's body
They DID do an autopsy on Tammy. They had to resume her body to do it. That's how they know how she died. Chad didn't want an autopsy done on her but once the police got involved that's when they resumed her body and did the autopsy.
@@Pandalynn369 But she was buried without an autopsy. If this case hadn't come to light her untimely and now apparently her death wouldn't have been a Murder.
Any person under 55 who dies of no obvious trauma ( car accident) or disease should automatically have an autopsy.
That should be a law.
@@Pandalynn369 they only Exhumed Tammy's remains after the children's remains were found on his property.
If not her death wouldn't have been under suspicion. If a mandatory autopsy had been done possibly the children would still be alive today.
Another travesty is Alex's death. No autopsy Again. Plus he was cremated. So no evidence of foul play.
Considering the way law enforcement handled Charles Vallow's obvious ambush and murder, I'm not convinced even if there had been autopsy done of both of the above charges would have been filed.
The kids were doomed due to dumb luck and inept law enforcement.
Hey, I'm healthy 62 and if I die suddenly please autopsy me!! Find the cause!!
The only time that an autopsy isn’t required here in Canada is if the person died in the hospital. If the death occurred anywhere else, than an autopsy is required.
She looks like she aged 30 years
Her face that was beautiful now manifest the evil that is her
She has changed and it’s evil and sickening
Thanks for playing all the opening statement and testimony. That’s why I chose this site.
the Laptop is really loud
Than stop listening. They are not going to fix the problem for your pleasure.
The Defense's opening statement was about as passionate as watching paint dry. It was if he was reading it for the first time and he certainly hadn't memorized any of it. If this dry, emotionless opening statement is an indicator of things to come in the trial, the Prosecution will win this case hands down.
Agreed. How could anyone believe Lori is not guilty, including him? It sounds like he's going through the motions hoping someone doesn't bomb his office again. If he were to add emotion to his statements it could easily push people far enough to attack like rubbing salt in the wound.
I hope she gets DP !!!
He’s already had a bomb attack on his office,so bet he’s not gonna risk getting enthusiastic about defending Lori Vallow?
Who would??
@@judichristophersen7238 I agree with you 100 percent but the Judge took the DP off the table on March 22, 2023 - Lori Vallow will not face the death penalty if she is convicted of murder in the deaths of her two children.
@@julielevinge266 well said
Thank you for sharing the audio! Please separate the ad breaks to further apart. They come too often.
Great opening from the prosecution!!!
@ time of this video 46:31, the defense says "We need to decide where did it happen"? Hum, the children's dismembered bodies were found in a shallow grave, burned in Chad's backyard, duh. That was why he was arrested. Next...
The defense saying to the jury "I know a lot about you" seems creepy, almost like a veiled threat.
WOW, you can really hear tons of typing in the background! I think Lindsey should have put some emotion into her opening statement, she sounded like a robot!
It’s the court reporter. And attorneys rarely let their emotions take over at the beginning of a trial.
no lawyer wants to be broadcast during a trial but if you know you’re going to be, you’d surely put on the show of your life? Not here tho lol
True. As a lawyer you need to be a storyteller
They're not really "allowed"
Hopefully her lawyers get it together since so far they sound disastrous, and it would be a travesty if the case ends up eventually being overturned because of their incompetence. They’ve certainly got an impossible task trying to convince the jury of her innocence, since a blind man could see from a mile away how guilty she is.
Maybe her lawyers do have it together, perhaps there isn’t a whole lotta evidence to support a solid defense without committing perjury so Hopefully her lawyers are just being honest and true here
@@Junebiz104L They haven’t presented any evidence since A.) It was the first day of the trial with the jury seated, and the attorneys were giving their opening statements which isn’t the point in the trial when evidence is presented, and B.) Typically the defence doesn’t present evidence first since, if you understand the criminal justice system in the United States, the accused has the right to the presumption of innocence until otherwise proven guilty, and had you listened to the council for defence they actually stated just that, the burden of proof isn’t with the accused and it’s not up to them to prove their innocence but rather the burden is on the prosecution since it is up to them to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. For this reason the prosecution presents their witness testimony and physical evidence and the defence then refutes the evidence by bringing the evidence brought forth by the prosecution into question, meaning they make some argument showing how the evidence doesn’t prove what the prosecution claims it does, or by presenting witness testimony or physical evidence which contradicts the evidence of the prosecution. The evidence presented by the defence typically relies upon expert testimony which disagrees with the prosecution experts, or physical evidence which exonerates the accused by proving they could not have committed the crimes they are charged with. And if they had any such evidence they would have disclosed it as soon as it was obtained and had their client released and the charges dropped, but that didn’t happen likely because no such evidence exists. Unless of course you believe the accused simply prefers to remain incarcerated even when there is evidence to exonerate them.
My point was regarding the dry, monotone nature of the defence’s opening statements. One would think having a client who is accused of such heinous acts and on trial for such serious charges yet is innocent, that the defence might have a slight bit of passion in defending an innocent individual, but he read his opening in the same tone someone would read the instructions on how to change an ink cartridge on their printer.
Anyway, it seems some people simply can’t control their urge to post comments when they actually have nothing to contribute and just feel the need to be contrary for attention. Well you got it.
@@Junebiz104L Also, council, meaning the lawyers, generally don’t testify under oath at a trial where they are acting as the defence or prosecution attorneys, so the chances that they will commit perjury is basically non existent. If counsel is found to have broken any of the rules of the court they may be found in contempt of court and in extreme circumstances they are removed from the case, fined and their license maybe be revoked or they may even be disbarred, but usually they aren’t considered perjurious since they are not testifying under oath which is a condition for the charge of perjury. Maybe learn a bit more about the law and how the justice system actually works before offering your very uninformed opinion so as to avoid appearing foolish.
Because there is no defense...
I came to the comments for this. That defense opening statement was garbage… he read his resume for half on of it. Ya’ll didn’t learn any flare or showmanship working this job SINCE THE 90’S?!?
If I were a juror, this defense attorney’s voice and inflection is so flat I would fall asleep.
Defense had nothing. Literally had so much nothing he had to talk about himself his reputation, not once did he say my client didn't do this or anything it was swirly twirly talk... he really believes in his case 😂
Also totally infuriated me when he said something like " you good citizens, taxpayers paid me to represent her and I thank you for that".....Dude.... screw you...
😃😃😃😃😃😃
he was up there to advertise I guess more than make any move for the defense. Go off king.
Thank you for the complete audio. Much appreciated!
I’ve been looking forward to hearing this trial since we don’t have any cameras and only audio it’s extremely hard to listen to over the typing. Please I hope they have this fixed or else I’m not going to be able to even listen to this trial.
you’re exaggerating. its just a light tapping in the background.
I do not believe her alibi that was written for her. It’s more bs from the woman who claimed she knew exactly where they were and they were safe and happy! Yes, once dead, they were finally safe FROM HER SCHEMING AND MANIPULATING! No one has the right to steal the future from anyone....Especially children, who have no choice but to trust their family to help them achieve their future best life! The shock those kids suffered is a hell of its own, and Nobody deserves the betrayal that woman put them through! Tylee probably knew deep down after the Charles Murder scheme she was forced to play into, but denial is greatest in our teen years when the truth looks like a sci fi plot!
Who is the defence lawyer?
He certainly doesn’t sound confident !
But can’t blame him for that, imagine getting this case arrive on your desk, you gotta defend Lori Vallow!!
I imagine a book and film about these defendants and these crimes will be forthcoming soon...???
Like the saying goes, "You can't make this story up." We can't but, they actually contrived this scheme and worse, saw it through...
To their innocent victims: May you all rest in perfect peace, forever...
Watch "Fried Green Tomatoes". What they did with the low life was classic.
Thank you Nate and EIN from the UK 🇬🇧👍
Death just completely surrounds these two…unfortunately not theirs yet
I followed this since the beginning, God rest the children
Thank you, EIN for paying for and posting the audio.
Thanks for this!
Thank you Nate!
Thank you for posting this!!
So disappointed death penalty is off the table. She deserves nothing less then death! Horrible disgusting human being.
She would love to have death. I want her to live with this until her last breath. Caged like an animal.
I love this woman that spells out everything Lori and Chad did the prosection is smart about all this and she spells it out perfectly.
Why is the Defense Lawyer making the case about himself by telling is life story 🙄🙄🙄
You can not practice legally any religion that practices and teaches murder. That is totally absurd!!
Thank you NateA and EatIdho news watching from England
They don't even suggest a defense for her!!! I never thought she stood a chance anyway of being found not guilty, but with these attorneys she's toast!!
That could be the whole idea.
Or… it’s ineffective counsel.
@@shivafarajifar yes you are right, it could be that. She had to sign an paper that she would not appeal on ineffective defense, because she wanted her trial soon. She would not sign off on her right to a speedy trial.
I love that u r letting us hear it all. If it’s too long for some they can skip forward. But I have waited too long for all of this and very much appreciate all you r doing
Tylee would probably be about to graduate from college now. Lori, Chad and Alex stole it ALL from her and JJ too! And Tammy was preparing to run a 5K!!! It just makes me so mad!!
I greatly appreciate this audio. It’s going to be a very interesting trial!! BUT, WHY ARE THERE SOOOOO MANY COMMERCIALS? Way to many and way to often. Can you possibly play them at the very beginning of each trial day video so we aren’t constantly being interrupted? It’s really irritating and disruptive. I know I’m out of line with this but... I’m sure that I’m not the only person who feels this way. Is there anything that you can do about this? If there is, I sincerely thank you. If not, I will continue to pull my hair out. 🥰🙏🏼
The ads pay the page. The page pays for the audio...so the page should just foot the bill entirely on their own for the publics listening pleasure? You can skip most after 5 seconds anyway.
I must say, I feel more grateful to listen than I feel entitled, that's for sure.
I feel entitled to listen the same way we listened and watched so many other criminal trials and similar to the same way Lori felt entitled enough to request no cameras and damn near no people to witness her stand trial as a serial killer
@@jennifermeaslesmankus Well, the public taxe$ also pay Lori's defense.
So if you want in on this trial, pay the dues.
Wow. The defender’s lawyer’s opening statement is all about him. If I was on the jury I would be thinking he must not have much to say about her. She disgusts me.
Literally. From that opening statement I got his resume and a personal story about a bombing at his office. Great counsel. I totally see their side now 🥴👍🏻
How could you know where and when it was happening but not be guilty ?
Twice ? This thing is going to go mental before she goes to prison
I’m taking bets. I’m in Idaho
I wonder if Lori has wakened from her delusional nightmare. I think she will one day if she hasn’t already…when she does I don’t see how she will continue in this probation 🙄. Imagine her horror. 🧟♀️
Please stop with the commercials. It's almost impossible to listen with them popping in every 5 mins. C'mon guys, EIN doesn't need the money.
It’s a YT thing EIN has no control over it as I listened to the whole thing and didn’t hear a single commercial.
i also noticed no commercials. maybe you should upgrade to premium lol
I agree, far too many ads, must be trying to recoup the expense of buying the audio.
@Joann W exactly . I don't blame them either. Apparently super expensive. No one should be paying for it in the first place. Annoying, but something I can deal with due to the circumstances.
@@cecilyworley8424 how is that possible
Everything this defense guy said about Kay Woodcock is a lie. Amazing. I’m guessing he is repeating what Lori told him. Wow
Grateful for the audio, thx. The typing making is a little hard but still happy to have the audio
Now I am not a professional in the law/crime field but what kind of opening statement was that from the defense?
vallows lawyer seems to be saying he had to take the case but not committed.
Almost as. Strongly as Teisa Stauchs attorneys 😮
Feels like he’s low key apologizing for defending her imo. crazy way to open.
I usually watch at night from my TV, so I can't make any comments. So New Jersey is loving your coverage!! What are you going to cover when these trials are over? Also your daughter is exceptional!
How are you watching this trial?
Brooo.. you CANNOT be a defense attorney and sound like that. He nearly bored me to death. GUIILTY!!! No need for a trial. Please dont make me listen to that man 😭
0:15 and......................go. "money, power and sex that's what this case is about...."
apparently chad told ppl she was ‘hot and loaded’. umm, i’m struggling to see it. then again, he aint no oil painting either.
The mic is too close to the typist it sounds like.
Defense opening statement: Hated it
I’m about to fall asleep. This guy is so boring and monotone, and telling us about things that nobody cares about or has anything to do with this case. Prosecutor had a much better opening statement. Imo
I loved it. He basically stood up there and said, “look, we all know she did some evil things here. I was assigned to the case so I’m just here to make sure procedures are following the law before a final conviction is made. Thanks for paying my salary with your taxes, btw.” 😂
OMG!! 🥱🥱🥱 Somebody give this man a coffee!! I completely zoned out and started to read the comments, way more interesting!! I understand that the burden of proving guilt rests with the prosecution and the defense do not have any burden to prove innocence, BUT, if they decide to make an opening statement, then make a STATEMENT.......not a monologue of ???? whatever it was?????
@@kimshayler4501 😂😂😂😂😂
Guilty.