'There is so many red flags.' Brother of Lori Daybell thinks Charles Vallow's shooting was a setup
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2021
- Adam Cox, the brother of Alex Cox and Lori Vallow Daybell told Chandler Arizona investigators he believed there was not a fight when Charles Vallow was shot and killed.
I'd pay to see Lori' s face when she found out she wasn't Charles' beneficiary!
SO would I!!!
👍me too
@@sambia7295 Tickets please… lots of tickets, my shout!👍🏼💋🌟
Lol me three!
@@kathrynbillinghurst188 YES, bunches of tickets! Totally had to be a major breakdown and I would LMAO seeing her face at that very moment finding out she is and always will be a loser. Can you imagine what the insurance lady thought when Lori called about the insurance policy stating Charles had been shot and she wanted to let them know she was the beneficiary! So proud of Charles being so smart to change it.
Shame on Lori’s mother, she is a enabler, 4 people are dead and she was protecting her
Chances are the mother is looney too. She told Adam, Lori's brother, that Lori was happy living in an alternate reality so that made it ok. I wonder if she changed her mind after people started dying.
Dirty LAUNDRIE style! R.I.P. Tylee, JJ AND GABBY🌟🌹🌟🌹🌟
Adam is lucky to not be like the rest of his family. He has a conscience and a brain apparently. I actually hope he has separated himself from his parents and sisters at this point.
The whole family is personality disordered. Combine that with outrageous religious delusions and that instability can be dangerous.
6 people, that we know of. not 4.
Adam is the truth teller in a narcissistic family.
Gparents showed no concern and enabled Lorie
I agree with Adam Cox. Charles walked in that day and got ambushed just like Joe did.
Why is Arizona extradition Laurie to Arizona. She will not get the death penalty for conspiracy to commit murder. They are trying to make up for there failed jobs of arresting these clowns
This is the only person that tried to help poor Charles. No other single person would.
:(
The world is coming down on the Laundrie parents. Sounds like the Parents of Lori and Alex deserve it more than they do.
No, Lori’s son and her nephew did too.
Adam Cox did nothing productive to help Charles. He fought with his mother -- his mother won. I wholeheartedly don't believe he had a serious talk with Lori's Bishop. I think he just paid Charles lip-service and stood-by and watched it go down. He really didn't care that much to stop it. He only cares now because the heat is on him. Keep in-mind, he's a professional radio DJ -- he's a good bullshitter. Where was his voice when the children were missing?? Charles gets shot by Alex and Adam remains completely silent when his own son and nephew speak-out? This guy is not trustworthy one bit.
@@222radar my instincts are telling me you are right, but I wish it weren’t that way? There were plenty of opportunities for Lori to be stopped and she manipulated her way through killing her husband, plus Tylee, JJ, and Tammy. Lori and Alex probably had something to do with Joseph Ryan and their own sister Stacey Lynn Cox Cope deaths. They almost completely got away with it too. There were too many people who knew that Lori was struggling with her mental health, for it to have ended this way. ☹️
This brother is the only sane one what a good guy he is He doesn’t need to talk to the rest of his family he’s lucky he’s not in that family anymore
He's a liar too...he said to Charles that he'd spend the night with him instead of his mom and dad....he then goes to mom and dad.
This guy is the only SANE person in the family. He seems to be honest and he is right when he said. Right is Right and wrong is wrong even thou they are my family.
@@Ferf3o are you having a stroke?
. boy have you gotten this WRONG...go back and read/listen to the FACTS..then come back with what you wrote...
@@AngieCee1 something's very WRONG WITH their thinking...odd
It's so sad to hear Adam speak to a law enforcement officer with such clarity and conviction, having figured it all out BEFORE Tylee and JJ and Tammy were killed. I feel for him and for his nephew Colby. I can't imagine their despair. Bless them all.
It is really sad hearing the officer tell him what was reported, such a sad situation
Exactly, JJ, Tylee, & Tammy might still be alive if they had done their damn jobs. Literally everything Adam said is consistent with the narrative presented by the prosecution.
*Tylee
@@Emily-iv4hk they were too busy flirting with Lori😮
Laurie stold 30 thousand out of Charles payroll account. Stold his truck and everything else. It was always about the money. They was planning on the life insurance from Brandon's life insurance but he got away thank heavens
Adam has better instincts than the police.
Criminals plan ahead:(
This is how an honest person communicates.
He was singing
Imagine how frustrating it is to be him in that family of liars
Compared to the recently released Melanie Gibb police interview tapes...
Totally!
@@mlee_wood3778 Right, and they all ganged up on him. It's crazy!!
Hearing him say that his mom told him “Lori wasn’t hurting anyone”…..referring to her break with reality….what a huge mistake that was. And even after the kids went missing Lori’s mom still stood up for her. I’m a mom but this is a level of denial that is incomprehensible.
💯💯💯💯
I suspect that the "mom" is just as psychopathic & evil as Lori is (in my opinion).
As much as it pains me to say this, it usually goes back to an enabling Mom for psychos like this, ie "not my Johnny/Susie"
If you listen carefully to the last time Adam relates that their mom said Lori isn't hurting anyone, Adam reports his mom as saying this AFTER Charles had been killed - but before Adam knew - when his mom already knew.
Sometimes the apple really doesn’t fall far from the tree…
Poor Charles…he was a good husband, father and family man. He extended financial generosity to many. He deserved way better. At least the truth has come out.
That’s called killing the goose that laid the golden egg
@@michellemichaud9296 And now with Holy Lori in jail, soon to be prison, she won't be able to flirt her way into another golden goose marriage. I seriously doubt Jesus or God is going to shower her with gold and riches to share with her dysfunctional birth family.
His death is equally as horrible as Tylee and JJ. Her family covered it up. Where was this brother before? Why didn’t he go to police? He’s running scared too. They all need prison.
@@cindymcmillan609 It is not fair to blame the brother when Charles himself went to the police and was ignored. If they had investigated at all, they would have found what he had said in the divorce papers which shows his claims were not spur of the moment. The officers - TWICE - ignored Charles. If he had not stopped the divorce, there is a good chance the children, at least J.J., would have been with Charles before July. With Lori already having left J.J behind for nearly two months with no contact, I cannot see a judge granting her custody.
If you have read all of the information on this, then you know that Adam was meeting with Charles the day Charles was murdered to try to get Lori to some help. Tragically, Adam made the mistake of telling his mother who told Lori because she could not admit that Lori might need help. Adam certainly did not intend to sign Charles' death warrant but he did when he talked to his mom about it the day before. I'm quite certain he is carrying guilt about that phone call as he would not have anticipated his mother telling Lori and Lori having Alex be there to murder Charles.
The person to blame for all of this is Lori - and Chad. It was Lori's choice to do all of this and Lori is responsible. Trying to spread the blame does not change that.
Aside from Adam, her family are enablers.. for Christians, not one family member stood up to her.. or supported the children? Considering the disturbing things she was saying & doing?
At least someone heard Charles. Poor Adam, I don't think I could ever forgive the parents if I were him.
Adam & his son Zach both believed Charles & were ostracized by their family. It's so sad.
Apparently it’s worse to tell & warn than it is to “shame the church”.
This is actually heartbreaking, to hear that Charles would call him, sobbing, because he was genuinely worried about Lori’s health
Poor Charles. Targeted by a satanist coven. They thought so well of themselves and so little of him and of others. They said they were working for Jesus but forgot his two commandments that would have set them right.
Matt 22. 37-40. ✝️
@@hannannah1uk In my humble opinion this has zero to do with faith whatsover. Charles wife is likely a person with obsessive compulsive disorder. She became obsessed an issue that another man wrote about. This provided her a idolization that became obsessed with. She then pursues that new man because he has interests she can obsess on, and she leaves for 58 days where that relationship takes off. The man she previously obsessed over, who is freaked out by her leaking new obsession, becomes the enemy as she removes him as her Love Object.
But a person with OCD generally:
Can't control his or her thoughts or behaviors, even when those thoughts or behaviors are recognized as excessive
Spends at least 1 hour a day on these thoughts or behaviors
Doesn’t get pleasure when performing the behaviors or rituals, but may feel brief relief from the anxiety the thoughts cause
Experiences significant problems in their daily life due to these thoughts or behaviors
She is so hyped because her brain chemistry remains in a manic phase. In her exposure to LDS and later the 144000 Doomsday Conjecture, she has a garden where she finds friends and a garden for her mind to assign meanings to her obsession and fear.
Jesus defense of Jewish Law to which you are referring, has absolutely nothing to do with her. That is in your mind, but if you study a bit more you will see it is just her being her.
And then Lori had Alex murder Charles in premeditated COLD BLOOD.
@@joannadechenne6368 In fact, most psychopaths have the same basic personality characteristics as serial killers, but through a combination of education, punishment, and self-serving purposes, most psychopaths have learned to curb and more cleverly conceal their destructive behavior, instead causing trouble in more sneaky, covert ways that we cannot so easily detect and punish by law.
Put differently, most psychopaths have learned that open violence towards others is frowned upon and punished by society, and so instead they seek an outlet for their internal destructiveness by causing psychological and emotional harm to others in the outside world.
@@hannannah1uk Satanist coven geezus are you kidding. It's a branch off from the ORIGINAL cult LDS!!!
Well…..Lori’s parents have lost……their grandkids, their son , their son in law…..and their daughter is locked up…..so the one Son who behaved like a decent human….they kicked him out.🥴🥴🤨🤨
That's what happens when u r ot in it..the crazy stuff.
In my experience people like that have convenient explanations where they've been wronged and it's everyone else's fault.
This looks like Lori’s parents are narcissists and Adam is the “black sheep”/scapegoat of the family.
They don’t care….the whole family are sick and delusional! I hope everyone of them suffer( not Adam or his son, or Cody) Lori’s whole family supported everything she did!
Yup, she’s not hurting anyone, right? Just leave her be says mom
My heart breaks for Charles to this day. What that b**ch did to him was demonic and heartless. The fact he felt ostracized from his family… it’s f’ed. I really hope Lori gets the punishment she deserves! Same with freaking Elmer Fudd!!!
This interview gives so much insight to the family dynamics and it’s scary. My heart goes out to Adam and his family 🙏
Funny how Lori could see “dark” spirits amongst others, but .
apparently couldn’t see her own!
Devils cant see themselves it's too dark to see. Bad spirits get into u and that's it.
It's called projection.
That is so true! Well said!!!!
@@delilahhart4398 Well said, Delilah!! Thank you!!! This is all so sad, isn’t it?!
my thoughts exactly!! The Spirit Stuff Was To Just Cover Her Killing Everyone For Money... She Killed the Kids ..Kylie for KNOWING and JJ for Too Much Work ... Crazy SHE IS and BOTH HER and CHAD WERE DARK ENTITY Attached 👿👹
The look on Lori’s face when she found out Charles changed the life insurance beneficiary must have been AWESOME!
I know! Thank goodness he did!
Shame Charles was so on top of what was happening yet couldn’t imagine what was coming.
@@bonnieenright I wish someone would have helped him.
Especially now we know Chad told his own brother he met a woman who is hot and loaded! The pair were driven by greed, nothing to do with God or religion!😊
@@bonnieenrightI think he knew… but, what was he gonna do about it? He had to just live! He couldn’t stop living! I mean, they killed him when he went to get his kid, JJ! He couldn’t stop life.
Adam, I wish you, your son, wife - all of your family the best and thank you for standing up for the truth.
I believe you and your son are the only family members of Lori that have told the truth.
It’s so sad that so many lives had to be lost - murdered! Charles tried to tell them. He tried to get help for JJ & Tylee and himself. They didn’t believe him. It’s awful that no one would help him. Smh
Charles was the only father JJ knew.And he wasn't allowed to go to the funeral.
@@jenniferhyde5389 Lori was cruel to all of them.
@@Momma-angelaYes, she was. Such a selfish, self absorbed excuse of a woman.
They are the only sane people in the family
@@jenniferhyde5389 I think of that a lot. So sad. They killed his dad virtually in front of him then took him to school like an ordinary day. Then not allowed to go to the services or speak alone to his grandma.... breaks my heart all that poor kid went through from being born on drugs, struggling for life as a premie then adopted into an evil stepmother situation...
Wow. What a guy Adam is. Impressive. Strong, honest and sane man. His family don't deserve him.
The fact that Adam's Mother knew all of this about Lori and protected her and turned on Adam is very sad. He's clearly the only sane one is this crazy family.
Mother knew there was something wrong with Lori, but they said let her live in her bubble. Probably wouldn't let themselves believe she would be dangerous.
We're looking at a peculiar family. Adam is the only good banana in the bunch.
@@barbarahenninger6642 DENIAL
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That is clearly a narcissistic family dynamic and he is the scapegoat.
I like this guy. Finally someone in this circle that's sane.
It wasn't really his fault, but he did have someone die during a contest he did as a radio DJ. Do you remember the woman that died drinking too much water? Adam Cox was one of the DJs. He obviously didn't mean for anyone to die but, yeah.
@@brynbailey7132 oh! I thought I was up on everything on this case. Didn't know that but let's be honest...this guy laid it allll out in a way no one was willing to do so for Charles.
@@sarahb2618 i agree 💯 he really is a great witness to the nightmare. I hope he's able to testify and help Charles again by convicting his sister!
Annie is sane, Lori's oldest son is sane, Adam is sane.
@@wishingb5859 I agree. Love Annie BTW. She's advocating for Tylee in a way that Adam has for Charles. I definitely feel for Colby. What a spot to be in.
The fact that this was before Lori did something to her children gives me chills. Her whole family knew something wasn’t right. But they just accepted it because “it wasn’t hurting anyone”.... until it did. Everyone in this case failed including the police. I think this goes to show that if you believe something isn’t right with someone, even if it’s a family member that you love very much, you need to tell someone who will LISTEN and do something about it. Because it ended up being too late for Charles, but it could’ve been prevented with Tylee and JJ.
So true, I don’t understand why they didn’t look into this after this call
This brother didn't fail, he is shouting from the rooftops trying to get someone to listen! He told the cops, he did as much as he could do and already saw that telling on Lori gets you killed! It wasn't his job to arrest her. It sounds from this interview that nobody even knew about Chad Daybell or that Lori eloped with him. And nobody could've predicted that he would influence her to kill her own kids. Even her own sister could not believe she was capable of that. But narcissists and sociopaths are capable of anything.
Absolutely!
They could have saved 3 innocent lives.
Police have no excuse for their messed up failure to arrest Lori and Alex for Charles' murder. If they had, Tylee, JJ and Tammy Daybell could be alive today.
This is so heartbreaking to hear from this poor brother. Adam was the only one who had a lick of sense. If this detective would have listened to him, those children would still be alive, as would Tammy. Then again, if they would have listened to Charles for months prior to his death and they would have committed Lori, he would probably still be alive. All of these cops dropped the ball!!! Sad, sad, sad.
Lori’s mom needs to be held accountable, also!
Have you seen how that mother looks? Oh MY GOD
@@Wanderingnomad2829 really? ill have to look her up.
@@kdt789 There’s a documentary on all this where her mom is on giving an interview. Something to that effect. I can’t remember where I saw it. Netflix, Hulu or HBO
Her mother is insane !
YES!! There is no excuse for family members to turn their heads in situations like this. Had they listened to this brother from the start, things may have turned out so differently.
When any family member attempts to turn the whole family against another, that's a huge red flag. I've seen this happen many times before, especially in offshoot cults.
Sounds like he is the only guy with a heart and soul in this story
and sanity.
I agree 💯 and I’m so sorry he and his son had to go through this awful mess and they used Tylee too, then murdered her because SHE KNEW THE TRUTH!
And a brain.
I don't ever remember anyone mentioning that Lori is a narcissistic sociopath. In all the videos you see of her, she appears as such a pathological liar and manipulator and very self-absorbed. Her mother's blind support of her through all of these bizarre events is so evil and toxic. Charles Vallow must have been so depressed and despondent. The police dismissed everything he said.
Ding, ding, ding! I agree with you 💯 percent. She's a narcissist raised by a narcissistic family. She's a manipulator, a liar and user. She's pure evil and a destroyer! She's a sociopath, period. What a waste of a good man like Charles.
It cost him his life. 😢
Absolutely! If they ever bothered to read a bible (spiritual giants that they are🙄) they would have read accounts of parents who lost God's favour because they ignored, made excuses for or even condoned bad behaviour. But no, they read the teachings of an apostate, Chad Daybell.
Absolutely! If they ever bothered to read a bible (spiritual giants that they are🙄) they would have read accounts of parents who lost God's favour because they ignored, made excuses for or even condoned bad behaviour. But no, they read the teachings of an apostate, Chad Daybell.
Yeah I think the religion serves her narcissistic delusion and is a weapon to manipulate and control and distract and confound.. it wasn’t that she lost her mind.. she knew exactly what she was doing. She wanted money, she wanted to eliminate threats and obstacles. She got away with it with Joe, She got away with it with Charles so she thought she could get away with anything coz she was just so confident in her ability to lie & manipulate & charm her way out of anything.
22:33 “I bet you Tylee could break if you got to her”
Yeah, Lori and Alex knew that too. So heartbreaking to hear this.
Why would they release Alex without proper investigation
Alex didn't go to hospital
Police dropped the ball
BIGTIME
The police have said they were still investigating Charles' death, but were finding it really hard to get concrete proof, which is more than plausible. The fact all their stories (in the police interviews) didn't match up, MUST have been a red flag to Police though. It took too long, and others died 😔
@@lindatannock - the audio of one of the detectives making excuses to Charles’ brother makes my head explode.
The cops were hitting lies at every corner.. they were still trying to get enough proof that a judge would approve more warrants… it wasn’t easy. It’s not like TV, investigations take time and they were still trying to investigate
Yes, they are trying to cover their buts now. The body position of Charles did not fit the story. They already had the story from Charles to put them on alert. they let Lori charm them if you saw the interview. The wound on Alex's head did not match getting hit with a bat. They should have checked for forensic evidence but did not.
The “injury” on Alex’s head looked like he was swatted by a house cat, not with a bat by a large “angry” man in great shape who played semi-pro & collage baseball! If my 10 year old swung a bat to my head I’d at least need/want to go to a hospital. How in the hell did the cops ever let this slide? No part of this story is believable, especially the bat to the head.
Adam is one of the only people in this sh*tshow who reacts the way normal people react. My siblings love me and would still react like Adam if I’d turned into a psychopath in a years’ time.
She was always a psychopath.
It just became more obvious during this time.
People do not become psychopaths as adults, or within a year.
Looks like Adam is the one who got the looks, not Lori😉.
Charles' brother's interview was haunting as well. Poor guys...
@@emilyflotilla931
Where did you find them?
I imagine they were. 💔
His poor family!
What an horrific betrayal & nightmare, horrific last few months of his life, & horrific murder. 💔
(I think Joseph Ryan had an even WORSE betrayal, last few years of his life, & murder. 💔)
She needs to face Earthly Justice for so many crimes & depravities, before God & Karma get to her (I mean in the final sense--God & Karma can & will act at ANY time).
Also try "There's so many red flags "
Colby and Adam are the only sane people in Lori’s family. I grieve for them as well. This is so heartbreaking
This is a man who’s doing a good job of trying to explain the sanity of a pathological narcissist. Explaining the series of events can make a person sound crazy so what an amazing job he’s doing explaining the truth.
Respect for this bloke and his son Zac.
I can’t even imagine what Adam thought after his nephew and niece was found. So glad to hear that he’s in contact with Kay. His parents are hopeless causes. He’s better off without them. His family is toxic. It’s not just Alex & Lori.
Glad Alex's bullets missed Brandon. Brandon went & Identified JJ for the Woodcocks. Such a decent thing to do! Mormon church OKs this or just Lori's parents.
Amen from the back row!
Fr wtf is wrong with this whole family
Lori's older son is a good guy, too.
Sounds like it.
Well this brother is vindicated. Not only did they set Charles up - and then killed the kids. So this guy turned out to be right. I hope that family has apologized to him. They took the side of crazy Blonde Lori. But she turned out to be the demon. Not the people she saw demons in. She was the one who was possessed. Pure evil. She will never acknowledge her own evil.
Laurie's mother looks like a fake nut job. She looks crazy
I'm so glad I came across this recording. I have been following the trial and news and heard about Adam Cox. He has given so much insight into Lori, Alex and their family dynamic. He is such a stand up person. He did the right thing by telling the police what he knew about the murder of Charles. "THIS WAS NOT SELF PROTECTION. IT WAS PLANNED OUT." I am curious if Adam will be a witness for the Prosecution. I certainly hope so because he knows the truth. His entire family owes him an apology.
It is pathetic that police allowed Lori to hold on to Charles phone (allegedly the reason the whole thing started!) for 4+ hours!! The incompetence is unbelievable!
Very incompetent
Requires an investigation later on what happened to police with Charles after the trial I imagine. Previous accusations and plans with Joe, husband heart attack.... for goodness sake !
She even took it to her parents to get them to disown Adam because he was talking to Charles. She is not only a killer but also vindictive bitch.
They probably didn't even know the phone was missing until long after the interview. By the time the police got their hands on the phone, she had probably deleted anything incriminating from it.
@@bevtrue6937 But phone engineer experts would have been able to retrieve the deleted files - wouldn't they?
I listened to both Lori and Tylee's version of events and according to both of them, JJ was in Lori's car during the altercation. If Charles was supposed to pick up JJ and take him to school, why was JJ in Lori's car already? This was a set-up plain and simple. Poor Adam. This must be so very hard for him.
I believe jj was in Charles' rental and Lori had the balls to take it (also Tylee was w) thru drive-thru and drop jj off at school and then return to cops at her house. Unvelievable.
@@mildredpierce3400 - 👍Yup. Charles’ rental
I remember that, and when Lori said "He took JJ out to the car with his backpack then came back in" I thought, What, are they sharing a car too?? 🤔
If I remember correctly during Lori’s interview after Charles was murdered, she told the investigator woman that she wasn’t really thinking but JJ was autistic and had to have chicken fries for breakfast every morning and she didn’t want him to know what was going on so she just hopped in the car and took JJ to Burger King and to school.
But they all contradicted each other throughout their interviews. Tylee said in her interview “that mom left in Charles car because JJ was already strapped in it so they went to Burger King “because for some reason, JJ wanted chicken fries this morning” She sounded like it was odd or out of character but Lori made it seem like “JJ just doesn’t understand anything, he’s special needs and that was his routine.”
Anyways, from my understanding the sequence of events happened sorta like this...Lori claimed every time Charles picked up JJ, he would get him strapped in his car seat then he’d have to come back inside because he’d “purposely” leave something in her house, just so he had a reason to have to come back inside. She said that Charles just so happened to forget his phone in the house so when he came back in looking for it, she held it up and asked “are you looking for your phone. What are you so worried about me seeing? She proceeds to read his text messages out loud asking “why have you been texting my brother, Adam?!” She said Charles became belligerent, demanding she hand him her phone. She wouldn’t give it to him and he was yelling and screaming at her in the hallway.
Alex claims he was asleep in JJ’s room and he heard arguing so he came out and Lori was in the hallway fending off Charles. He and Charles had argued back and forth and Charles kept coming toward Lori. Alex says he shoves Charles back (the officer asked how he shoved him? Alex first said he shoved him and Charles stumbled backwards. The officer asked if Charles stumbled backwards or if he fell down? Alex then says he shoved Charles and he fell to the ground backwards).
At some point during all this, Tylee comes out holding a baseball bat and kinda poked it into Charles to stop him from getting close to Lori. She said Charles grabbed the bat, ripping it out of her hands and it knocked her to the ground.
Alex then grabs Charles from behind - like arm/elbow around his neck and yanked him backwards away from Tylee.
DhAround this time is when he claims Charles whacked him with the bat. So Alex goes into his room to get his gun. He says Charles taunts him asking “what are you going to shoot me? Alex said he would if he didn’t drop the bat. Alex said Charles proceeded to come for him and fearing for his life he shot him...twice in the chest.
Lori claims she and Tylee had went around the two men arguing moments apart from each other so they were outside when they heard a shot. Tylee said she was trying to keep JJ in the car so he didn’t go inside then Lori came out the door. Lori said just hopped in Charles rental car because her purse and all was in the house and she didn’t want the kids to see anything that happened inside so she just took JJ to school in Charles’s car.
Tylee told the investigator that they were about to leave in Charle’s rental car and her mom asked her to run inside and grab her purse (...like wtfffff?! right??!!!) and she just “ran inside quickly but she knew she heard a gunshot so she made sure not to look around so she didn’t see anything, grabbed her moms purse and ran back outside. Neither Lori nor Alex mentioned that to the investigator and I can’t believe they didn’t call them back in to figure out why tf she would send Tylee into the home if Alex had just shot Charles. I’m not sure what exactly Tylee saw/knew that day but her story did not match either of their stories.
All three of them each said they can NOT recall anything that Charles was screaming during the entire incident, they can only remember that he was acting crazier than they had ever seen him...)
This absolutely was a set up. Lori had no business touching Charle’s phone or going thru it and taunting him. If Charles really challenged Alex and said he wouldn’t shoot him then it sounds like to me, Alex was itching for an excuse to kill him anyway.
I am also curious how Alex ended up getting a boop mark on the back of his head? Charles was in shape and used to play semi-pro so I have no doubt that if Charles actually took a swing at Alex he would’ve taken his dome clean off if he wanted to. Alex was not in imminent danger and he did not use an equal or appropriate amount force so I’m shocked the police were cool with him putting 2 bullets precisely in a mans chest then needed to go clean the blood off of his boopity boop then finally decided to call 911 after 8a? Nobody checked the time to see how much time his boop took to clean? I hope some officers lose their jobs or are held responsible for letting 2 killers stay on the streets who couldn’t have had Tylee or JJ murdered if it hadn’t been for their pathetic excuse of an investigation.
The story went that Charles left his phone in Lori's house after putting JJ in his rental car and went back in to get it. Lori supposedly was looking at it and wouldn't give it back to Charles and that's supposed to be what angered Charles. Lori drove away in Charles rental car taking JJ to school.
For me, this is the most riveting interview of the entire case. Wow. Thank-you for this ❤
The parents need to be on their knees begging for this son’s forgiveness!!! After all that’s happened, he had the voice of reason. Lori’s mom handled this so wrong.
Thank you for sharing this conversation from Adam Cox. He's the honest brother. He tried to help Charles.
I love how simply and truly he speaks. “I love my family, but right is right.”
If the cops had actually investigated Charles' death when it happened, instead of just taking the word of his crazy wife and her brother, much later death and suffering could have been avoided.
How were these people NOT arrested at the time of Charles shooting?
Gun laws today or rather lack there of.
No wonder Lori could believe she was a priestess higher than everyone - seems her family treated her that way her whole life, even immediately taking her side and cutting off the beloved brother and his son. Unbelievable.
Nita...
A majorly dysfunctional family.
Very, very scary...
This interview and the one with his son Cody are possibly the most insightful of all of them. So heartbroken that Tylee & JJ were alive during this interview…hindsight really is 20/20 😞
Lori was acting SO crazy, that anyone trying to describe her craziness, came off as crazy, I bet.
So true it’s such a shame no one listened to Charles when he told the police about what she was saying could have been a different outcome!
💔😢💔😢💔
FYI Adam’s son is named Zack. Cody is Lori’s son from her second marriage.
@@DonnaLena1 I think his name is Colby
I hope that Arizona Police Department realizes that they are responsible for these kids deaths and are held accountable for letting these murderers go. Loris brother Adam desperately tried to tell them that his siblings most likely killed Charles and the whole history of their threats and attempts to murder Tylee's dad.
I find it odd that nobody in that family questioned the hell out of Lori and Alex after he killed Charles. Just one weird bunch. Especially the parents. Mainly the parents.
So true! I was shocked when Lori's mom, sister, and Melanie P said they knew where JJ and Tylee were and they were already dead.
The parents raised them...
@@sambia7295 yeah grandma claimed she talked to JJ on oct 2.
Am I the only one wondering why people are talking about TV shows when we have a "president" who doesnt even know what time zone his in? Turn off the TV and live your life for fucks sake.
@@sambia7295 I didn't hear about that. Where can I read or listen to them talking about that?
Can’t believe the cops in Arizona didn’t do more! Because of the mishandling of this case, 2 children are dead😢
Because they knew a cop or sergeant...he needs to get called into court and arrested for helping squash this death when it first happened.
I can't EVEN IMAGINE the pain Adam, his wife & son have had to endure, as we all know how thos story end. God Bless him for caring for everyone involved, including the perpetrators, but his truth revealed over time, I just can't reconcile how much all of this likely wounded this man.
@@stephaniefreeamericancitiz1489 I get what you mean, but I think you mean Adam and his wife :-)
Seems almost in this video like Adam is doing the work for the police. This police officer " yeah I saw a report that "half" outlines what Charles said. Half outlines? What did he skim through it? Did he even read it? I'm not entirely sure how serious this cop is taking this. Seems to me he's a bit slack! Why is it that civilians have to gather all the evidence for them!
Having lived in Arizona before, I'm not shocked at all.
What a difference between the Rexburg and Chandler police departments. Adam provided the Chandler police with a mountain of incriminating evidence that should have led to an intensive re-examination of Alex and Lori's version of Charles Vallow's murder - one that may well have culminated in the arrest of Alex Cox. The inaction of Chandler's law enforcement officials is arguably directly responsible for the deaths of Kylee, JJ and possibly Tammy as well. Rexburg's police department, on the other hand , deserves accolades for their work (even more impressive seeing as Rexburg is about 1/3rd the size of Chandler).
Agree 100%. Listening to this phone call, Adam is entirely credible. He paints the whole picture and shows that Lori has planned not one, but two murders (Joe and Alex) and successfully pulled off one. Adam clearly loves his family and is distraught. The officer is like, “yeah, sure, okay.” You get the feeling he hung up and got a donut, shoved his notes in a drawer. They blew it.
Listening to this is horrible, knowing that Adam provided Chandler police with a mountain of critical information about Lori’s TWO planned hits with Alex (Joe also) and one pulled off successfully. From the most credible informant possible- a brother who loves her, and is the family favorite (up until now) and wants her to get mental help. This police department has a lot to answer for. Why they didn’t do extensive follow up leading to a criminal charge for Alex- that feels criminal. They knew (or should have known) they had a likely serial killer on their hands.
I agree. Indeed
This cop received all this information and still did nothing. I blame him personally. They need to be sued
Adam never spoke to police until August 9th. He finally returned one of their many calls. He never explains why he left town and went to Tucson after Charles didn't return his call. He was here on a flight paid for by Charles and has an appointment with him later that day. He left.Why?
When he was talking about being at his friends house and he googled Charles Vallow....saying he had been shot by his brother-law...my whole body was covered in goosebumps!!! RIP CHARLES
That part is odd.
@@Froggythegremlin
Who doesn't?
Sounds like the brother is the only sane one in the family. I’d probably would’ve gone mad at family get togethers if I was him.
Need more attention?
@@soci0path what? Your comment makes no sense. If you were surrounded by crazy people how would you feel.
I can imagine why Charles and Lori's brother ( talking ) got on well.
They both just seem like great guys.
If only people had listened to him and Charles..
Adam was also responsible for someone's death ruclips.net/video/kZt5iWmQjnk/видео.html
Tylee was a witness to the murder and was eliminated!
I'm listening to this more than one year later and can't believe that the LEO's didn't investigate Lori and Alex more thoroughly than they did. If they did so, Tammy, JJ and Tylee would have still been alive.
Me too it’s shocking the way the police handled it
Especially when Charles told the police ahead of his murder. Well, she'll finally be held accountable for that next. If she had been charged, the kids would still be here.
@@angelawright7258I'd love to hear what REALLY happened with the Police! NO DOUBT, people were fired!
I feel bad for Adam Cox. You can hear the hurt and disgust in his voice. His family owes him an apology and then some…
Last 10 minutes shows how manipulative Lori was...and still is to this day.
She was running out of $ so she killed her kids for their $ then Tammy Daybells life ins. Lori killed her own children.
There is a high probability that she helped kill JJ - there is an eyewitness to a comatose or sleeping ?? Alex carrying JJ into LOri's house. After that JJ was dead. I am 90 percent sure that Tammy was killed with insulin after being drugged with Xanax or something similar. There is good chance that Alex Cox killed Stacey Cox, the diabetic , who died aged 31 , with insulin overdose .
(It is known he stole and used her credit card after she was dead ). Stacey was one of the much older sisters who was insulin dependent. TE. Fidler
@@F_Tim1961 Which is crazy. What do you think the motive was, did the family hate her? I’ve also felt he killed her and Joe.
@@BootsEditor11 I have always suspected that Insulin was used to kill Tammy and I think the coroner could have come to that conclusion too but she was in the ground for something like 18 days and with Insulin being a natural product and what the hell does extremely low blood sugar mean in a corpse that is that old. THEN just the other day I found out about this Stacey and it all started to make sense. There are now formal allegations to LE that Lori used to grind up Xanax and put it in C Vallow's food or milkshakes.
Stacey was in fact in a bad way with all sorts of problems plus depression. It's hard to say how she ended up dead.
Joe Ryan-
Now I find that Lori promised that she would get back at Joe big time for pressing charges against Alex. Hell, Alex had kidnapped him and planned to kill him, is the way I read things. Then about 8 years later (after Alex's assault) old Joe drops dead of a heart attack , so called. I have fished the police (Phoenix ) off the interweb but clearly I can't place it here.
The issue was that Joe was pretty smelly by the time the coroner made conversation with him - he was discovered dead after 12 - 14 days from time of death. THe only way Lori could have done it was to say meet him to make up for old times then stuck something in his drink and then possibly injected him with a massive dose of insulin and then walked out of the house. Now since Alex C had some massive hate against Joe , the best guess is that Alex finished him once he'd been zonked with xanax. How was Joe found ??.. well some neighbour was walking a dog and noticed a horrible stench coming from the Ryan Residence - I guessed he lived alone and called the cops for a welfare check on poor old Joe. Joe was not particularly old . If it was moyder it was very well done and no trace left.
Could this to be stuck to Lori ? it depends on phone records. If Old records are available and BOTH she and Alex C were in the area 12-14 days before his discovery as dead it would then be very likely they knew something. Obviously Joe is not going to let Alex anywhere near his place.
If this is true - then the tally would be
Dead responsible party
Joe R Lori and Alex Cox possibly but extremely hard to prove even with tower dumps showing proximity.
C. Vallow Lori and Alex (murder by Alex now official). Possible also Tylee as lying accomplice.
Tammy D Chad for sure Possibly also either Alex or Lori
Tylee R Chad and Alex for sure (from mobile phone records and a satellite photo 24hrs later showing the grave site . Lori as probable accessory after the fact.)
JJ Vallow Alex and Lori (based on eyewitness account re Alex) with Chad highly implicated for the digging of the grave.
Alex Cox Zulema possibly on instruction from Lori and with Lori supplying insulin or some poison. Alternatives are suicide and natural death.
I think it highly unlikely that Alex would have committed suicide - he'd done a lot of killing and he had not harmed himself earlier.
Now If you listen to the 911 recording re the death of Alex Cox (Ytube) her idiot Latino son who is utterly hopeless , Zulema's reaction is not plausible. Her husband of less than two weeks is unconscious and dying in excrement on the Bathroom floor and she is all business. Most women in that situation coming on it after driving in from shopping would be screaming and hysterical. Zulema seems to have been expecting what she saw in front of her.
Frankly, this family seems to nearly have killed more people than the Nazis.
I can't see how Chad can escape the death penalty and given that - there is not much incentive for him to drop Lori in it. I'd say the main charge that is likely to stick is she assisted in the killing of Tammy , if Chad gives sufficient detail and if her phone record has her there on site say 4- six hrs before death occurred. Would a jury convict ? hard to say.
TE Fidler
@@F_Tim1961 on April 19, 2022 we get to watch her arraignment. So much evil in this case is unreal.
I’m not sure if this is Lori‘s older brother or younger brother, but he is so on point with everything that has happened. He definitely should be a detective because he is so on point about every prediction that he could think of that happened to Charles. He seem loving and caring towards his family. Charles also seem like a really great husband and just wanted to help out his wife. I am so sad that he got murdered. It is such a tragedy as I believe that five people died including two kids.
I believe he's in between Alex and Lori's ages.
I very much respect Adam Cox and his son. He and Charles were acting in complete reasonable response to all the crazy that was happening.
So everyone knew she was saying weird stuff, but no one thought to remove the kids (or at least JJ) from her home? Their first concern should have been for the kids. Lori’s parents saying that she wasn’t hurting anyone is just disgusting. They all failed the kids
Even the police can’t take children away from a home where a parent “believes weird things”. If so, half of America’s children would’ve been removed. They also can’t arrest someone without evidence. It’s why it took 8 months to arrest her. I do agree that her parents failed their own grandchildren. Even now the family dysfunction that seeded Lori is glaringly evident.
People did try. The police laughed it all off
The only hope those kids had were an Uncle Adam that lived in Kansas and A Grandma & Grandpa Kay and Larry, that lived in Louisiana!! Lori had them so far away from any family so she could get away with anything she wanted to! But, the fact that her mother knew how sick she was and did nothing about it is one of the most shocking parts of this whole thing. Her own Mom. Didn’t get her help, didn’t seem concerned about her daughter and did nothing to protect those kids. There was only so much that Charles could do! And, he did it all but she got out of it every time!! Whole damn thing is the biggest mess I think I think I’ve ever heard of!! And, one of the saddest cases I have heard of most definitely.
From what i understand loris parents are very sick and pathetic ppl in general. They condone incest ECT... Pigs, plain and simple.
@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 Listen Lori and listen to her mother, isn´t it curious hot both have the same tone,the same accusatory way of talking.Creepy....
This brother is the only one in the whole family that's trustworthy and sane. The rest, including her mother, are questionable AT BEST.
The whole damn cox family is f*** king crazy , liars and manipulators .mother brother Alex the whole lot of them .
@@tonyamote9665 The legal history of the family(like not paying taxes, in court for years fighting the system)alone is grandiose and beyond belief. Lori was in court for 12 years to fight for custody of Tylee; there wasn't one horrible accusation she left out. Lori had like 6 counts of civil contempt in the end. Now we find out that Lori was the one who "found" her ex-husband dead after she got tired of waiting for the insurance money. And she had a very young Tylee with her when they found Joe Ryan. What she had that poor daughter do to lie for her mother is heart breaking and disgusting. These people have no compassion, belief systems with no basis in reality, twisted ideas of loyalty, love of money and attempt to portray the most fundamental (and secret)of Mormon belief systems. It's blood atonement, Lori herself said murdering her husband could be justified according to LDS Doctrine and Covenant. Not one of them stopped her and said, "this has to stop". After all, who was she hurting? I'm screaming out loud now. The Melanies, Zulema, Chad, and whoever else benefited from this crazy scheme participated in every death and has blood on their hands. Mom, Dad, sisters, brother all sat back and watched. And the insurance fraud was the true goal(not to mention getting rid of spouses and children). I want to believe she will be held accountable as well as every person directly involved in this fraud. Thanks, Adam, you really know your family and sister and I can't imagine the pain you and your family have suffered. Prayers and love to you and the innocent dead children and adults left in the wake. I don't know what else you could have done to help, but there are a lot who could have stopped it and didn't. God bless you and Colby.
@@devy024 I did not read that Lori found Joe but rather that neighbors reported it for a welfare check. Tylee was not "very young" when he died; he died in April 2018 and she died in September 2018 so she was 15..
"Ryan was found dead in his Phoenix apartment in April 2018. His body wasn't discovered for more than a week, after which authorities notified Vallow, who was listed as his next of kin despite the fact that their marriage had ended 14 years earlier."
@@GlennaVan Annie, Joe's sister, the one who visited with Tylee and Lori after her brother was murdered, has a channel and has detailed a timeline and her observations and conclusions about what happen to him. She said that Lori had in her possession all of Joe's paperwork in boxes, among other things, smelling like death. She shows what the apartment looked like at the time of his death and all of her impressions. And the police said that they let Lori go in with Tylee after Joe was found dead to retrieve what she wanted, unattended. So at the most Lori took Tylee with her to set up the apartment, remove what she wanted and was let back into the apartment with Tylee, after Joe's body had been removed. Lori's brother may have also been there because the window had been left unlocked. And then there are the many things Lori said about Joe Ryan in front of Tylee like, "the world's a better place without Joe in in" over and over again, plus describing in detail what had happened to Joe and his mattress in detail, repeatedly, as he decomposed. She talked about the smell, the different decaying fluids, the high heat.... I don't consider the conversation appropriate for a child to hear over and over. Tylee may have been 15, in my book, that's young. Too young to be part of any of Lori's shenanigans. She knew exactly who her mother was, she just didn't think it would happen to her. She didn't have a chance at life, was exposed to things that nobody should ever be regardless of age and is the murdered daughter of a murdered father. Let's not forget that Joe left Tylee insurance money. Tylee was just coming into her money, gaining her freedom. Lori was the trustee of her money. We can add another reason why she's not still here, mother spent it. She probably counted on Charles' million dollar pot of gold to replace it. God bless you, God bless the children.
So insightful this brother is. It is such a relief to hear a clear eyed version of events. I am so sad that this man has had to wrestle with a clearly unhealthy sister and brother in such great degree and even Lori’s Neice Melanie was following in her aunts footsteps attempting the murder of her own x husband during their divorce.
All the death following Lori Vallow is signs of a serial killer and just horrifying. How Adam Cox came out of this so aware of the truth and clear is mind blowing. Thanks Adam for all this amazing insight into your troubled brother and sister.
That´s amazing how nobody noticed Melanie using exactly the same MO as Lori to get her hands on his 1000000 policy as beneficiary, and knowing her children were considered dark....
@@politicallyincorrect5802
Now I don’t know if this is fact. However, there is substantial rumors and tellings of the oldest sister of Alex and Lori (Stacey Lynn Cox Cope) died mysteriously in 1998. It is reported that Alex, was caught using her credit cards after. Now here is the stinger- alleged rape & molestation of Stacey, by whom else (Alex)- thus resulting in Melanie.
Also - Lori is being extradited to Arizona for the death of Charles Vallow and attempted murder of Brandon Boudreaux, on conspiracy charges and so Melanie still may be held to some accountability- maybe? Cause she had to know that the attempt was happening being that Alex was in Charles Jeep, and cell phones tracked him in a two day drive from Rexburg.
Unreal -
This man is so brave and kind.
This brother is freaking out in the fashion that Charles had been.
If you've ever been in a situation where loved ones go against you bc they believe someone else is telling the truth...IT SUCKS! bc it involves a deep manipulation from an outside party.
This family didn't wake up until it's too late.
This woman is delusional but the crap needs to stop, she needs to be hauled into trial. Sorry for Adam that he got handed a ridiculously nasty family.
She is manipulating the system thinking she will plead insanity to avoid trial, I still feel that she will come out and say Mr Satan brainwashed her, throwing him under the bus.
No way is she crazy she knew exactly what she was doing the whole time point blank period
I'm with Adam. He's right.
If police had taken C'harles, Adam, and Brandon seriously...apparently they didn't question Tylee enough
Chandler police effed up so damn bad. What is the point of the damn police if they can't even do their damn job! They have blood on their hands. Absolutely despicable.
On a side note: Major kudos to Adam and his son, Zac, for sticking to the truth and for standing by Charles when everyone else demonized him. I really HOPE Adam and Zac are called to testify in Lori's trial. What a damn tragedy this all is. Lori and Chad need to be thrown in prison and throw away the keys.
Sounds like he's the only 1 in the family that knows how to tell the truth!
Obviously the gene pool took a hard left in this family from this brother.This guy is a great man to stand for what’s right and lost his family by doing it. Great example to his son on what a real man is. Good riddance you don’t want this family!
I agree. They're one step away from the texas chainsaw massacre family. Except this isn't fiction unfortunately, of course.
Wow I feel so bad for Adam. He tried so hard to tell the truth about the evil he grew up with.
And imagine how the cop’s head is spinning with all this crazy stuff.
You all stay safe and be careful around folks acting strangely.
I bet the Gilbert Police Department wish they had listened to Adam! So much tragedy would have been avoided!
One of those families where you never talk about the horrible shit. You just carry on like it didn’t happen. And ANYONE who does try to say something……gets treated like shit and attacked.
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DYSFUNCTIONAL…….FAMILIES
Yup. You “pray” it away.
@Jess Stone Tylee knew too much and as teenagers get riled in arguments, I feel that she threatened to tell!
I know this exact feeling
Yes! Exactly!!
@@josiechaney9010 I hope you’re not joking bc all my life I’ve prayed things in and out of my life… like my mum taught me. It’s silly to many, but I’ve always wished on the first star ⭐️ whenever I can. Also 11: 11 on your clock… say a tiny minute prayer for all of the people who died in all wars that were protecting their lives, lands and heritage🕊🕊
What a solid, gold, good man❤️. “What’s right is right, What’s wrong is wrong!”
I actually thought the same thing of him, what an honest man!
I’m gonna remember that. 👍
Adam would be a good prosecution witness when Lori will face the Charles Vallow trial in Arizona.
Lori's mother put Lori on a pedestal. Lori can do no wrong in her eyes. SICK. 🤢🤮
This is huge !!! We are finding out the most from Adam. By far 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. But it also makes the police look awful
I know right, they tried to kill her first husband and it went wrong. Even after knowing this they let Alex off with Charles’ death wtf!
Lori &. Chad are Not at All Sorry for what they have Done.‼️😥
They're just Sorry that they Both
Got Caught.‼️
This man has integrity. It’s really sad how much power Lori had to get all those people to listen to her. How easy people can be fooled Lori hurt so many people. This brother needs prayer, how could his family do this to him. He doesn’t need toxic people like that around him.
This man is the only one in that whole family that has morals and common sense!
Lori’s brother is asking the exact questions that the police should have checked when Charles was murdered, as he said he loves his brother and sister but he’s able to be objective in a way that the police weren’t.
How sad this all is, Lori and Chad have left so many people hurt and confused on top of the innocent lives that have been lost. What a terrible mess they’ve made 💔 I just really hope they are jailed for the rest of their lives, they need to be taken out of society permanently
Those police completely dropped the ball and those kids would still be alive if they had actually did any sort of investigation, there were red flags everywhere. Especially with Alex not even having a mark on his head where he was supposedly hit with a bat by a man that was a minor league baseball player. If he hit Alex he would have crushed his skull one shot and Alex would have been the dead one. Those cops have blood on their hands.
Totally agree
@@sst6358 it is a big problem and that they did have Lori come in for a mental evaluation. She was out in a very short time so I don't the evaluation came from a professional. I don't think cops are able to give the kind of evaluation that Lori needed. This is a big problem in our police force they need people that can do proper evaluations in situations where the person seems to be Bentley unstable. In several highly publicized cases lately the person has been shot because the police didn't know how to handle the situation. Policemen are not trained to handle the mentally ill.
The sad part is Chad's kids still stick by his side a lot of their family on both sides r brainwashed
Rather than jailed their whole lives, they could get the death penalty. Their cases are being tried in Idaho and the prosecution announced they would be seeking capital punishment.
Think both Alex and Lori are sociopaths, there has been weird stuff going on for many years.
I say it goes as far back as their sister that died. Maybe even farther. You just don't wake up and start killing people one day.
They are serial killers, I wonder if it is a birth defect in that bloodline and how many other are the same? 🙈
I think they we're sleeping with each other!
@@honeybunch5765 Most probably NPD in their DNA. My psychopath mother comes from a family where half of them have NPD since several generations. It must be in their DNA. I fortunately don’t have NPD and decided not to have any children, because I am too afraid my child could have NPD (like my mother and my siblings, my grandmother, my uncle and one of my cousins).
@@SN-bl6xm it is rampant in our family. I set my family down and told them that they should not have children because of the problem of so much mental illness in our family. Unfortunately they did it anyway. Sad.
Thank God Adam and his son is safe.
Adam Cox was the one that was talking to the investigator. Adam Cox is the brother of Lori Daybell.
We hear so much about Alex we forget she had another brother. She has caused so much pain.
I don't care what nobody say lori is not insane she is conniving,
She is using the religion to.kill.and now playing crazy.
I also agree she knew exactly what she was doing the whole time everything she did was calculated
Dude you can’t be conniving for that long! But she is sick, sick! She’s almost textbook case scenario of Religiously preoccupied delusions! Sorry but true!
It feels like she's being protected.
I think Lori killed Charles, the kids were witness, but Alex took the blame for it.
So all of them had to die to keep Lori safe.
Poor Charles never got justice, heartwrenching. Good for Adam to speak out about his horrible family. Best interview ever.
🤞 fingers crossed that Lori is convicted of his murder too. Now that the trial for JJ, Tylee & Tammy is over for Lori, once she's sentenced for that case she can be extradited to Arizona for Charles' murder.
Charles got justice The two bastard Chad and Lori would be lock away forever.
Wow, so much in this call. Here we are, after the crimes, trial & verdict. This man, Lori's brother steadfastly does not believe Charles would hurt anyone, let alone Tylee. He was so exasperated by the family protecting Lori's brand of crazy. His end comment was a harbinger of things to come, 'it's like something, something from 20/20'. (I think the 2nd or 3rd 20/20 report on the case just aired 5/21/23) Adam, you tried. No one outside of her cult could have foreseen she would do what she did.
He’s the only one from his family with any decency! His mum cutting him off is disgusting & now she’s lost her grandchildren because she didn’t do anything about her daughter & son’s behaviour!
Perfect comment! This family destroyed itself. We all have family issues but my god this is wild.
The greatest tragedy in all this is the incompetence of the detectives in Arizona. That they did not arrest Alex for the homicide of Charles means that three other people were murdered... Tylee, JJ and Tammy. Their deaths are on the idiot cops who didn’t arrest Alex. Adam’s testimony would’ve been enough to have a jury convict Alex. Shame on the police in Arizona.
Same with poor Gabby Petito. Police were just lazy as F.
Imagine the state this poor guy must have been in when he found out the kids were missing.
Charles was such a kind wonderful giving man. He took care of all of them. He knew something was off with his wife.
How on God's Green Earth did Chandler PD EVER EVER could have said that was a legitimate shoot.
Adam the only person with sense and who cares.
This is a good man. Sometimes an entire family is trash and denies any wrongdoing of their loved one. Good for him.
My theory is that Alex attacked Charles and Tylee tried to hit Alex with the bat to make him stop..
Yes, if charles hit alex with a baseball bat, alex isnt getting up
Agreed
This is heart wrenching. He saw it all and there was nothing he could do. He knew Tylee saw something and she would be the one to break if they could get to her. Ugh my heart breaks for these victims
Question is did they even try?
Lori sounds like a malignant narcissist .
Absolutely and sadly her pure narcissism is keeping her from being held accountable
Obviously.
This is the most credible hearsay I’ve ever heard in my life
The brother is the only one trying to save people's lives . Her friend let it happen.
I really salute this man for being in the side of right and justice. There are not much like him in this evil world!
If he's not a witness, then there's the trial isn't fair to the victims of this woman.
When Adam said “it’s literally like something out of those 20/20’s” ….wow, little did he know
I thought the same thing!
And this case was on 20 20 recently.