@@ericahensley0 his aunt by blood has had the blood of 5 or more people on her hands ... good for Zac for being strong and standing up for what is truth and just. Standing up for his family and other's that have been murdered.
@@khunter8757 Oh HELL NO! I have 1 nephew. I love him so much. I would hate to disappoint my nephew the way this woman disappointed and traumatized hers! 😭💔 She is a Monster 💯% Sorry to not be clearer on the first comment.
It’s so good to hear him just tell his story, not holding back, not “planned” comments, just laying out everything he knows. I hope we hear a lot more from him.
And no gaslighting comments about religion. This all had to do with cash grabs and nothing to do with religious beliefs. No reason for him to talk in circles, he’s telling the truth.
I’m listening to this interview now during the Lori D trial. This is unbelievable! God bless this young man and his father who had the blessed sense to leave Arizona and head out to Kansas.
Lori had the AZ police and the family wrapped around her little finger. Why would you call this young kid a coward for not understanding the whole picture and standing up to the lot? He and his Dad were afraid of Alex for good reasons. 😢😢😢😢😢
He seems lovely but to be honest I think all the family members I’ve seen in various interviews and footage are all charismatic, intelligent & good looking ….
Gilbert PD should be ashamed of not following through with anything. I saw the videos. He was pleading for help. They are just as responsible for this.
Great guy, he has been through some crazy stuff.Anyone starting to connect the dots...once the evil religious podcasts and books came on the scene all of their lives became upside down insanity! This nephew had no idea ! Jesus said that He is the only way to heaven not some manmade religious belief system based in polygamy, masonry, masonic marked underwear, no caffeine, manmade secret handshakes ...so crazy all this Joseph Smith stuff is not Christian!! Also, Note evil was seeping in... Lori was still being religious and going to the Mormon temple...religion can be dangerous I am learning. All we need is Jesus only. Jesus had a big problem with the religious Pharisees. Thankfully the children are with Jesus forever in heaven. Mormons are such nice people but they need to learn from this...run to the Bible...no book of Mormon or manmade rules needed! The Bible is the true word of God. Chad and Lori were rooted in manmade Mormonism since childhood. Please, please research the history of Mormonism even the Temple in Salt lake city has Masonic rituals and symbols on it. Watch Pastor Greg Laurie on RUclips for some true Christian grounding. Praying now for this hurting family. The Bible says that there is a way that seems right to a man...but it ends in death!!
Exactly. She was competent enough to transfer all monies out Charles account. Competent enough to go out of her way to keep collecting social security money for the kids. Competent enough to lie to everyone about knowing where exactly the kids were. She is competent alright. She is an evil monster!
I saw this one coming. I knew they were gonna flip n say she was insane. I'm only surprised Pryor didnt go this route. Maybe he tried and they found Chad compentant
I just watched this again after 1 year and this young man has been through a lot and has his head on straight. He and his Dad sound like very good people who will stand up for what’s right. What a lovely young man. Thank you!
Wow, Zac looks so much like his dad, Adam Cox. I can heat the sadness, regret that he wasn’t able to say-or-do anything that would have saved lives. Zac is also so well spoken and quite good looking.
Especially as a young adult. Just a total head fuck. Don't think there is anyone who could live through this and not think "if only....." a million times a day.
There is nothing that would have stopped Lori. Same as ID where Tammy Daybell was. She was shot at- it didnt work and they made sure she died later. Tylee was backing up her mom at the police station interview. No ESP there
@Tiny Princess You mean if someone is coming up from behind me on the sidewalk swinging a baseball bat and and a cop sees it, he just lets it happen? I don't think so.
Guess you don't believe her son either.Wonder how Laurie's sorry ass mom and sister feel Now.Hope they got in hell too.Melinie Gibb and her niece Melanie are guilty too.
@@lyndawadsworth8572 what do you mean about not believing her son ? If your referring to Loris son Colby , he had nothing to do with what his mother, and others did. I think he’s an amazing strong young man. My prayers are with him and his little family. I can’t even imagine what he’s going through losing his sister, brother, and step father not to mention now even his mother.
Zac, thank you for being Tylee’s champion. It seems she had no one else to mourn for her. The Woodcock’s are so strong for JJ and are amazing. It breaks my heart to see Tylee not mentioned as much. 💔
A level-headed young man with a clear mind and a clear heart, in spite of it all. He is so right, she accuses others of that which SHE is guilty. May he keep his clarity and his resolve and his health, no matter how unhealthily other family members operate.
*Well said!* It was refreshing to hear someone talk openly without anything to gain or lose by his account of the events. I can't imagine being in his shoes...had to have been very difficult and scary!
Hearing what Melanie Gibb did to help Lori torment Charles is sickening. She should be held accountable & so many of the family should feel so guilty for how they treated him. Why did Lori have so much control over people? She makes my skin crawl. So evil and foul
All of the loons obsessed with her while knowing what was happening should be accountable. Their day will come ... not here and bow but there abs then.
Melanie Gibb and her dumb Boyfriend, now husband should be charged. They were there the night JJ was murdered and likely witnessed, participated * allegedly *
It wasn't Melanie Gibb, it was Brandon Bordeaux's wife, Melanie P. Who helped Lori in relation to Charles. Melanie P. is related to Lori, like her niece or cousin, or something.
I just wanna give him a hug. Zac seems to be riddled with guilt, but if he reads this, you have NOTHING to feel guilty about. Who is EVER going to think something like this would happen?! I hope he accepts that. I'm really sorry for what's happened to his family.
So many victims,such a path of destruction...I hope the innocent family members don´t pay for other people´s sins. There´s NOTHING they could do, NOTHING.
I’m proud of Zac for standing up for Charles now. Its heartbreaking that he had to experience this trauma first hand. Prayers to the families still grieving.
I can’t imagine how bad Colby feels about that. But that’s his mother, so it’s understandable why he sided w/ her at the time. THAT & he was being manipulated by everyone in his family.
Yeah you can just really understand the trauma that these individual people in this family have gone through is shocking to think someone in your family is going around and killing other family members which is how he described it and how afraid that made them
This kid has come through this mess with incredible maturity and clarity. Despite being led astray and exposed to ridiculous notions he's got it together. GREAT interview Justin.
I really appreciate this interview. It’s one of the most authentic and raw conversation I’ve ever witnessed. I’m so sorry, Zac for what you and your family had to endure… my heart goes out to all of you. I hope you are doing better.
Zac really gave an inside look into the pain he feels and the fear Tylee went though. I thank him for the details he shared. I would like to hear a lot more from him.
If you watch the Charles Vallow 33 min police report video where he's locked out of the house and his kids n family & truck are missing, Charles states he tried to call his nephew Zach 10 times for exactly a week and he returned zero of his calls n messages! So he can say what he wants now..
It's the most detailed, and gives a lot of new information. I think we've been following the story for so long, there was very little new to learn anymore. All the family members who were interviewed until now (sis, mum, niece) were just blowing smoke. Didn't even know zac existed! What a fine young man. 👏🏾👏🏾 Also sounds like mum knows more than she's telling. What did Tylee tell her the day she came over? That lady needs to be asked some tough questions.
That’s what I was thinking watching this. This is a must watch interview. He gives so much perspective & insight on the whole Cox family dynamic!!! Another good watch is Colby’s recent interview w/ Justin. Good job!!!
I hate that Zac has to live with regrets or “I should’ve or could’ve.” I hope he will come to realize that all of that was out of his control and frankly, it’s a miracle that him and his dad got out alive. May there be justice for all of Lori and Chad’s victims.
It's unbelievable how everyone on that side of the family (with the exception of a few) took Lori's word, without even getting Charles's side first. Poor Charles. She did so many crappy things to him even before he died. 😪
He didn't just die he was MURDERED, and then Lori threw a pool party to celebrate the million she was going to rake in. Charles had already changed the beneficiary to Kay his sister, I wish he'd told her she might not have killed him.
Actually it is typical and very believable. It is how cults and cult religions work. Even more so in communities where a particular denomination of religion is the forefront following. This is a key part of the programingvand control of how cults operate. Do a little studying on the B.I.T.E. model.. and when looking at these churches, religions, groups and the doctrine andcidealisms they believe, teach and follow. It becomes very abundantly clear and obvious. The way the ostracize, outcast and shun those not of their exact kind and followings is a key and critical proof that it is cultism. The LDS Mormonism church and all sects of it are very fond of using this tactic. I went through it from them myself when I stopped believing in all that religious stuff. Not just family turned on me, but the whole religious community and churches as a whole.They stick together, back each other up, even when they know they are in the wrong. It is even tougher when most of the community are all members for the most part of that same cult tied religion. Which was the case with Lori especially when it was requested she be evaluated and the officers involved through that early process before he was killed. Those involved were all members of the same cult church denomination..possibly even the same exact church. This is what they all lead to eventually in some form or fashion and manner. Tragedy, heartache, grief, pain and loss, suffering and some point of a WTF moment..and people try to understand and are left to try to figure it out. It was all clear well before.. they're cults.. religious cults are more prone to this type of tragedies. I often try to warn people to really take a look at any and all denominations and faith, faith belief religions and churches and whatever they call themselves in accordance to a religion of a god deity... look closely and in depth from a stance non affiliated and almost against them and see if the BITE model of cultism applies to them in any way or means..if so run away..far away from them. As it is said, not all cults are religions but all religions are cults..especially Abrahamic belief related ones. It all came to late for this family to actually step up and out and put an end to all these cult ideologicalisms and ways.. to do so long before these tragedies could ever happen.
@@metalhead0274 I don’t think anyone in the Cox family would be able to leave LDS, they’re all “believers”. The only normal ones are the Vallows and the Ryans, but they’re not her actual family.
Yes and even more when Lori was already speaking about Zombies and becoming fully brainwashed. Charles was victim of domestic violence and narcissistic abuse.
Zac, I’m a grandmother, and I would be SO PROUD AND HONORED TO HAVE YOU AS MY GRANDSON!!! People like you and your Dad make this world a better place!!! I’m so sad that you were prevented from speaking to Tylee on that last day that you saw her. Please continue to hold your head up high, and if you’re still blaming yourself for anything, then it’s time to give yourself permission to forgive yourself. Personally, I believe you have nothing to forgive yourself over. You’re such a good guy. I’m so proud of you!!!
His Dad, Adam Cox, brought up the truth, of what he knew, to his and Lori's parents ( about Charles death) and they immediately kicked their son out of their home, while he was visiting them. They were done with Adam AND his son. Very sad, her parents seem to be high enablers to Lori's crazy.
@@sarahmarie5038 I listened to Adam's call. I know everything he said was the truth and matched what Zak had said in his interviews. Adam didn't need to pause and think about what he'd heard and seen! It's pretty bad that his own mother kicked him out and stopped speaking to him and Zak. She's a poor excuse for a mother, just like Lori. Had they been at the house when Alex and Lori murdered Charles, the mother and Summer probably would have cheered them on! They're users and abusers! Adam and Zak are much better off without that evil family.
Don't leave out Lori's son Colby, he didn't know anything about his Mom moving to Idaho, or that she has Married Chad daybell until the news hit that his brother and sister were missing. My Heart reaches out for him and Adam and Zack every one of them were badly affected by Lori and Chad's poor choices.
Yes you can do interviews and still testify. Look at Melanie Gibb. I'm sure prosecutors prefer they not interview, but can't dictate their actions. If they're smart, they will be careful about what they say and how in depth they would get in an interview, because it could potentially help the other side depending on what is said.
"They were so selfish that it didn't matter" says it all!🌹 Remember Zac Cox, you are not required to carry the burden of their story. I hope you and your family continue to recover from all that you've endured.🙏 Great interview!
Seems like Lori called the shots and everyone danced to her tune for a long time. Even now the court is handling her with kid gloves as opposed to Chad Daybell (who admittedly is also a murderous freak, just not so “pretty”). The bennies of being an outwardly beautiful sociopath...
Surely the officers in the “evaluation” video should be suspended. It was their job to get her to a proper facility to get evaluated, they didn’t. They allowed her to use her cop friend and her botox injected body as leverage.
I’m still sickened by that. You have a guy with a scratch claiming he was beat with a baseball bat and a wife who is laughing and smiling! It was just “ ok, it was self defense- case closed “. It’s absolutely absurd! Charles was completely blown off too. If he was taken seriously, none of this would have happened!
TO YOU, Zac and you father Adam. How many times did Charles call and text?????? 20+ ?????? And you didn't call???? Wow. You are such a jerk. You lived off them instead of getting your OWN place. He needed you. Your dad didn't call him back either. Ya'll just SUCK. You're NO better than the rest of your family. I don't feel sorry for you. At all. You knew she was having an affair. You knew she was om her 5 the marriage, and how many of them were dead before the life ink on the life insurance was dry? Disgusting...... And all these comments about how wonderful you are is pathetic. You and your father were there from Kansas and knew Charles came in from Houston. Your father didn't call like he'd commitfex to. You didn't respond and even RAN from their house KNOWING CHARLES WAS COMING TO THE HOSE WHERE ALEX AND LORI WERE. AND THEEEEEEN STIIIIIL DIDNT CALL HIM BACK. You're no hsro. You dropped tbe ball and LET CHARLES DOWN TO HIS DEATH. Your father KNEW there was something wrong with Alex taking a week off work when he were coming to stay with Alex, NOT HOUSESIT - the whole reason he came was ALLEGEDLY to help Charles, knew Alex was at Lori's, didn't EVER call Charles UNTIL AFTER HE WAS DEAD, when he'd been in town for 3 days - and found OTHER THINGS TO DO THEN GO FIND CHARLES. YOUR DAD DIDNT CALL FOR 3 DAYS AFTER HE SAID HE WOULD, NOR GO FIND ALEX. YOU'RE A LIAR. YOU DIIIIIIIIIID HEAR FROM CHARLES - HE LEFT YOU HOOOOOW MAAAANY TEXTS AND MESSAGES?????????? THE SAME FOR YOUR DAD!!!!!!!!! AND YOU DIDNT CALL HIM UNTIL YOU WENT TO ANOTHER CITY TO VIDIT SOMEONE EEEELSE. JUST DISGUSTING. YOU BOTH LET HIM DOWN. AND IT LED TO HIS DEATH. YOU ARENT CLRAR HERE. THIS ALL OCCURRED IN 3 DAYS FROM THE DAY YOUR FATHER CAME TO TOWN, WHICH IS THE SAME DAY YOU RAN TO GRANNYS, AND NOT UNTIL 3 DAYS LATER DID YOUR FRIEND GOOGLE HIM. GOOOOGLED HIM. GOOGLED HIM. YALL DIDNT CALL HIM, FIND HIM, SEE HIM. NOTHING. YOUR FATHER GAVE HIS STORY TO THE COPS. NOW WITH YOURS, ITS CLEAR THAT NEITHER OF YOU KEPT YOUR COMMITTMENT TO CHARLES. AND YOU ARE SO MANIPULATIVE IN NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. AND HES DEAD. AND YA'LL ARE GIVING INTERVIEWS. YOU SUCK. YOUR FATHER SUCKS. I HOPE IT EATS AT. QUIT RAVING ON YOUR FAMILY NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING WHEN YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP AND YOU BLEW HIM OFF. EVEN AFTER HAVING STAYED FOR MONTHS AT HIS HOME, AND LEFT BECAUSE boo hoo YOU DONT LIKE CONTROVRSY . DISGUSTING. HORRIFIC. I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR TOUGH SITUATION. YOYRE A COWARD. YOU DONT STAND UP FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FREELY GIVEN AND STOOD UP FOR YOU. DISGUSTING.
Yes! Grandmother played an integral part in facilitating all this. Many disagree but she KNEW Charles had been killed, knew Lori was delusional for a while, not the least bit worried when in Idaho never talked to her grandchildren or FaceTime. If she had spoken up in Chandler would the kids have ever been taken away to Idaho? 😡
That poor broken-hearted young man. He loved his cousins, Tylee and JJ. How scary that his family all lived in fear of being next. May God bless your family with strength to get through this. There was nothing you could have done differently.
Stay strong Zach. It's had to have been tough on you and your Dad, being the only sane members of the family through Lori's web of lies and manipulation. And thank you for sharing your side of the story and shedding light on all of this. Don't pay any attention to the negativity and toxicity from the public. Y'all have been through enough. This man is not fake crying. He's trying very hard not to break down in tears in front of complete strangers on camera. There's a big difference there.
27:40 I lost it...so, so heartbreaking. Stay strong Zac-you have nothing to feel guilty about. Thank you for sharing. I’m sorry for all of those harmed by these horrible people.
Thank you so much for sharing, Zac. I am so sad about what happened to you and your family. I've listened to hundreds of hours of commentary on this sad, sad series of events. Of the family members, it is obvious you are clear minded on the reality of what happened. I know you say you have regrets but, you couldn't possibly have known that Lori's crazy thoughts would manifest in the murder of Tylee and JJ. And, even if you had strongly suspected it might, no one would have listened to you and there was literally nothing you could have done. The authorities didn't even listen to Charles. Listening to Chad's children defend him was so frustrating. I understand defending your father but, not now. Not after everything we know. Given that what's done is done and can't be changed, I am so grateful to know you are there to bring a sane perspective on this terrible, terrible tragedy. Stay strong, Zac. You are needed to help bring whatever measure of justice that can be brought to this tragic situation.
Wow. How was Lori able to keep Charles phone! Why didn't the police take the phone the day of Charles death as evidence. She told the police that very day she and Charles argued over phone!!!. This makes me angry. Terrible police work!!!
Police are lazy. My friend's husband is a cop and he is as lazy as possible at his job. They just want to collect their paychecks without actually doing any police work. And they get away with it because we have this misplaced reverence for police.
Zac thanks for being the adult in the room. The way that Lori's mom and sis bought into her story was an embarrassment. You have a good head on your shoulders.
It is so horrible on so many levels what Lori and Chad and their followers did to these good people. I hope this sane group can fully heal from all this betrayal. Zac like a genuinely good guy. Charles, Tylee and JJ were lucky to know and love him.
This story is incredible! Sending prayers 🙏🙏 for Zac and family. Grandma and Grandpa Cox are probably going crazy with the murder charges. Lori left a huge and wide path of destruction with so many victims!!!!
This is one of the most fascinating interviews of the entire case. I could feel my own dysfunctional family as he discussed it. Everything seemed real as opposed to the factual interviews and tabloid type stories that have dominated this case. It may have been hard for him to go on camera, but there are lessons to be learned for all of us here.
I heard about these interviews when in Gray Hughes' chat about Mollie Tibbetts murder earlier this evening. His incredible story should be shouted from mountaintops.
I wish he would have let him talk more about those messages, taking his phone, that phone should’ve been with his own family, not with Lori family. Some women would’ve came out if he was cheating. She had her eye on the writer and with his themes she had a match, she was the one cheating I hope the family finally believes this evil pos Alex Lori and chad.
Imagine being in a family where you're scared of being the next "dark" spirit and getting shunned by Lori, your favourite aunt that everyone in the family loves. It's just... Unimaginable 😭 I'm so glad he got out of that situation safely, he could've been on that list!!
I can’t figure out what she had that made everyone love her- her family, friends and how many husbands was it? She’s cheap, vain, stupid if she believes in this religious stuff- but downright crazy if she believes the zombie isht. How did she bankroll everything (houses/cars/travel) before she started these murders for profit?
@@kathrynwitte3398 I'm not sure but a lot of people have said that she is really charming and sweet ((despite being absolutely crazy) narcissists will love bomb you and then charm you with a dazzling personality, so that you're caught in their web, and they can more easily persuade you into trusting them and their beliefs.
Like Zac stated towards the end of this interview, nobody once ever asked the accused for their side of the story. That has always baffled me how someone can lie and disparage someone’s reputation, and yet, not one person that was told the lies, ever questioned or got the side of the story from the accused….Unbelievable!
What a great but heart breaking interview. Well done Justin on your truth seeking and thank you Zac for sharing your story, may you find comfort and peace.
What an insightful young man. He acknowledged the changes he noticed in her mentally and understood so much of the mental dynamics of the family!! He seems to be the only member of that family looking at reality.
I'm watching this two days after Lori was found Guilty of the murders of Tylee, JJ and Tammy. The crazy stuff in the trial about the shape the bodies were in when they found them and the texted between Lori and Chad😢😢😢😢 so awful
yes and i even think she fooled Chad Daybell, she felt trapped, after so many marriages, and kids, she snapped, believing she was some godlike person, she is a narcissist
@@paulam.593 I don't think she snapped..narcs have to have attention and respect...she planned all this...and she enjoys victimhood...she planned it, she didn't snap...but that's just my opinion
Master manipulator! And now she's manipulating the courts! I don't think she manipulated Chad tho cuz he was saying Tammy was gonna die young before he met Lori! But what is so sad is how almost the whole cox family sided with Lori without even speaking to Charles! N Ive been saying Alex was offed or even committed suicide just to protect her! Tylee knew her mom and Alex planned this and she was killed for knowing too much! Ugh. It's just horrific what they did to both children but to shoot her and then to cut her into pieces and burn her like that by her own uncle and that evil POS Chad makes me physically sick! And poor J.J. being snuffed out like he meant nothing to them. But he wasn't biologically related and just in the way!
Mothers of beauty pageant contestants and other narcissistic "look at me, me, me" platforms typically always contribute by grooming their girls....how pretty they are, how smart they are. This is but one horrific monster created that the whole family was scared of. They are coming out now that they have survived, money and celebrity is to had. Lori is dangerous crazy and if sh e ever gets out of prison, they would need to sleep and eat with one eye open.
Lori was like an infection, she got inside & controlled so many. It makes sense hearing this, why her mother lied about talking to JJ when we know he was already dead. This familial bullying tactic is appalling. Definitely not within Zac's control. If the PD had taken Charles seriously or acted after his murder this could have ended so differently, these questions need answering at some point. To think even after Charles feared for his life he was still thinking of her and trying to help her. My heart hurts for Zac and the many innocent family & friends caught up in this web of evil destruction & devastation.
I hope there is an investigation into the breakdown among Arizona police dept and investigation of Charles' complaints and death. In these states the first responders need additional training in dealing with these cult situations.
@@justmissjamey There needs to be more of them charged, co-conspiracy,, The fact of having knowledge of her evilness puts them as co-conspirators of the 2nd degree
I love this guy. He is the most honest and caring one I've seen of the whole Cox side of the family. Bless his heart. You can just tell that everything he's saying is truthful. I'm so glad he shared this with us. Thank you Zac. Prayers. & thank you Justin.
Had the PD taken everything seriously (which they have a duty to do) there could have been a very different outcome. Theres a very real stigma of the woman always being believed & that they're always the victim & the man the perpetrator. It's an outdated belief & one that cost many people their lives.
This poor kid man. All these people who lived through this, lost cousins and loved ones are all victims as well. How many people can one person kill and hurt all those peoples loved ones before she’s treated like a serial killer/domestic terrorist. This poor kid lived though something to crazy to be a movie plot and he still seems so grounded. He’s also positive considering what he’s endured. I’m really impressed by him.
@@phyllisirwin5660 If there was god things like this wouldn't happen. The innocent wouldn't suffer at the hands of pure evil. If there is a God he's really twisted and a sadistic.
I hope that Zac has a lot of support from his immediate family. Yes, I am a grandmother and I would love to have him as a grandson also, what a fine man.
This is why I dont think Lori deserves an insanity plea. Even if she deluded herself into believing she was a goddess, she was incredibly cruel and highly manipulative. She was well aware of what she was plotting to do to Charles and sane enough to lie and turn everyone against him and even this poor kid. A whole family who would do that to such a great kid who was taking care of Loris kid for her has got to be rotten to the core. Its so sad Tylee didnt get to break that cycle, as Im sure she would have if she were allowed to live.
Everyone on the family knew Charles would die, same with JJ and Tylee-and No One calls the authorities -even after they go missing. Disgusting . Lives could have been saved.
How can you all god to be with him when you condemn those whom did exactly as god commanded of all his children? God commands we kill disobedient children, people with emotional and mental dysfunctions and all those whom claim to be addicts. So how then can you condemn those whom do exactly as good commands? Also, let us not forget that Jesus condemned also for not sticking to this commandment of God. So it was mentioned both by God in the old testament and by Jesus in the new testament. So again, how can we claim to be Christians then condemn those whom actually do? Also, let us not forget the entire new testament is based on a zombie and a battle of light against dark. Not to mention the old testament. All of christianity is based on what a zombie said. Let us not forget that. So then how can we without sin call them cultists?
@@shannondyke3585 I think it's funny when someone points out your own beliefs to you based on the very book you claim is God's word you become so uncomfortable in your own hypocrisy that your immediate go to is to bear false witness and lay out by calling me a name, again, in false witness. Mind you, without any evidence at all to back your little toddler tantrum. These things are clearly written. So why then do Christians ignore them? Could it be that all gods are created in the self to confirm self beliefs and not actually an independent presence? If there is an independent God then why do you ignore him and vilify those whom don't?
@@shannondyke3585 if you can't or won't answer the question just say so. Don't condemn yourself in sin by bearing false witness. After all, that is a commandment too. In case you've forgotten.
I hope Zac and Colby stay close. Just so heart wrenching. In anyone’s wildest dreams they could not have foreseen what played out no matter how many times you think it over so I hope you guys can realize that. 💙💜
I really like the man interviewing, I can’t think of his name. He is genuinely invested in the feelings of this family, it’s obvious. He has a wonderful vibe, asks the right questions and allows people time to actually give the story.
_Lori's cousin told in an interview how Lori, when she was about 15, was driving at night with a boyfriend of hers and a cat was walking across the street...the boyfiend said to Lori he is going to try and run the cat over...which he proceeded to do. The cousin said Lori was NOT FASED AT ALL and continued to laugh and chat as if nothing had happened. We all know the first sign of being a psychopath as a child is cruelty to animals. I rest my case._
There's a recording out there of Melani Gibb speaking to a fb friend on the phone. She basically said she knew everything! Also, she was staying with Lori just before Charles was killed. Melani & David were staying with Lori when JJ was killed. She lied to cops about JJ being with her when they did the welfare check on him. She is involved.
@@bonnielucas1941 Melanie Gibb spoke to a friend months after the murders and after already speaking to the FBI. She did not say that she knew about the murders when they happened, let alone in advance. Lori and Chad were recorded trying to convince her that JJ was safe and that Tammy's death was natural.
Dear Zac.... most of us humans are haunted by something we wish we could have done better, and differently, in our lives; we think and believe that we could have been perfect if we had just tried harder. We must keep in mind that we are mere humans, and that means making mistakes continually; we must learn to grant the compassion we feel for others to ourselves, as well. Many people feel your pain, and are sending love and comfort to you.
So well said. And absolutely true. Hindsight is always 20/20. Zac did the best he could at the time with the information he had. No one could have imagined that Lori would start wiping out her family.
Perfectly said. My heart really goes out to the innocent members of this family. Most people watching this will have great compassion for you, Zac. You deserve that compassion. You are speaking out now. Give yourself the grace and compassion so many have for you. I have sons and I watched this and wanted to give you a hug. I hope you have a good support system now.
13:10 She passed the mental evaluation so shes fit for trial... EXACTLY!!! Psychopaths always turn what they are doing onto others. She is a manipulative liar, and muderer. He seems like a stand up guy. It's sad he has a lot of regret. It wasn't his fault. I agree with him about Alex as well. I think they killed him also.
Justin- please do a part 2 this is the best interview EVER done. He’s obviously the most honest of the Cox family. Janice can’t tell the truth if her life depends on it.
I hate to say this, but I think he is more sincere than Colby. I think Colby still is a little protective with his mom. God is going to bless this kid. He is so honest and sincere.
@@truthseeker1234 I totally agree with you. What a riveting account of the most unimaginable horror. How sick to imagine your aunt and uncle plotting to kill you and your dad! That’s not your everyday situation by any means.
Oh and yes, way more sincere than Colby I agree. He is so good at painting the story for the listener. It just draws you in because it’s such an honest account. He’s not worried about image one bit!
Justin, your interviews with Lori's family members are awesome. They are so brave to open up to viewers about their pain. Thank you for sharing, and God bless you, Zak.
I am thinking he had already shared it, and that some of this info perhaps was waiting to be disclosed. There is a lot LE held back to protect integrity of case.
Why did the reporter cut this off? We need a part 2 because that was the most interesting interview I’ve seen from a cox family member and it seemed like he had more to tell.
It didn't look to me like the reporter cut things off. It looked more like he had planned to stop after a given duration. I'm sure we'll hear more from Zac.
This young man could easily write a book from his perspective after both trials. I would buy and read it. He is looking at things logically and realistically.
I am crying with Zac, how sad. Janis (and Barry) knew Alex and Lori killed Charles 😡😡😡 then has the audacity to go on national TV and laugh about people saying Alex was Lori’s protector. WOW!
And let's not forget Summer who lied and said she called Al to ask him fo be at Lori's bc Charles was coming. And he was oh so violent etc. These family members should be charged bc they lied and helped cosign Lori's bs which is ultimately what led to other family members dying. From watching the mother & sister- it is no wonder Lori ended up so delusional and playing people like puppets. The only good normal people in that family are Adam, Zac, and Colby. The others are sick and twisted and they all have Tylee, JJ, & Charles blood on their hands too. Sick sick sick!!!
I feel so sorry for this young man 😔 I just can't imagine how he is processing all of the horrific things that have happened around him 💔 RIP JJ, Tylee, Tammy, and Charles 🕊️🙏🕊️🙏🕊️🙏🕊️🙏
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This poor kid. He is speaking out for Charles, Tylee, and J.J. now. They would be proud and thankful.
So sad to see him speak these things about his aunt by blood 😭
@@ericahensley0 his aunt by blood has had the blood of 5 or more people on her hands ... good for Zac for being strong and standing up for what is truth and just. Standing up for his family and other's that have been murdered.
@@ericahensley0 so are you saying you support Lori?
@@khunter8757 Oh HELL NO! I have 1 nephew. I love him so much. I would hate to disappoint my nephew the way this woman disappointed and traumatized hers! 😭💔
She is a Monster 💯%
Sorry to not be clearer on the first comment.
And his dad too
It’s so good to hear him just tell his story, not holding back, not “planned” comments, just laying out everything he knows. I hope we hear a lot more from him.
And no gaslighting comments about religion. This all had to do with cash grabs and nothing to do with religious beliefs. No reason for him to talk in circles, he’s telling the truth.
This entire interview was planned. He had a year and a half to plan his words, and his entire persona echos the rest of the Cox family.
@@Tsumami__ no, it really doesn't.
@@Tsumami__ Wow, yeah it's obvious where You are coming from!
I agree. The most honesty I’ve ever heard from a cox family member.
This kid is lucky to be alive, being in the middle of the crazy death cult family. He's a great person, and a real survivor.
I’m listening to this interview now during the Lori D trial. This is unbelievable! God bless this young man and his father who had the blessed sense to leave Arizona and head out to Kansas.
I think the kid is a coward but have to consider the family of loons he comes from
Lori had the AZ police and the family wrapped around her little finger. Why would you call this young kid a coward for not understanding the whole picture and standing up to the lot? He and his Dad were afraid of Alex for good reasons. 😢😢😢😢😢
@@jerrilynnwoolston9734 100% agree with you.
He seems lovely but to be honest I think all the family members I’ve seen in various interviews and footage are all charismatic, intelligent & good looking ….
Gilbert PD should be ashamed of not following through with anything. I saw the videos. He was pleading for help. They are just as responsible for this.
I wouldn't doubt if Jason Mow is involved in that.
I agree had a wife asked for the same the police would definitely have taking it more serious.
I seriously hope they are held accountable for their part in all of this.
Great guy, he has been through some crazy stuff.Anyone starting to connect the dots...once the evil religious podcasts and books came on the scene all of their lives became upside down insanity! This nephew had no idea ! Jesus said that He is the only way to heaven not some manmade religious belief system based in polygamy, masonry, masonic marked underwear, no caffeine, manmade secret handshakes ...so crazy all this Joseph Smith stuff is not Christian!! Also, Note evil was seeping in... Lori was still being religious and going to the Mormon temple...religion can be dangerous I am learning. All we need is Jesus only. Jesus had a big problem with the religious Pharisees. Thankfully the children are with Jesus forever in heaven. Mormons are such nice people but they need to learn from this...run to the Bible...no book of Mormon or manmade rules needed! The Bible is the true word of God. Chad and Lori were rooted in manmade Mormonism since childhood. Please, please research the history of Mormonism even the Temple in Salt lake city has Masonic rituals and symbols on it. Watch Pastor Greg Laurie on RUclips for some true Christian grounding. Praying now for this hurting family. The Bible says that there is a way that seems right to a man...but it ends in death!!
Charles was begging for help..Gilbert PD is and was wrong.
I totally agree with Zac, if Lori was competent back then, she’s damn well competent now!
Exactly! She is a true monster!
Exactly. She was competent enough to transfer all monies out Charles account. Competent enough to go out of her way to keep collecting social security money for the kids. Competent enough to lie to everyone about knowing where exactly the kids were. She is competent alright. She is an evil monster!
I saw this one coming. I knew they were gonna flip n say she was insane. I'm only surprised Pryor didnt go this route. Maybe he tried and they found Chad compentant
Just one of her manipulative moves
I agree she knew what she was doing and she’s just playing the crazy card .
I just watched this again after 1 year and this young man has been through a lot and has his head on straight. He and his Dad sound like very good people who will stand up for what’s right. What a lovely young man. Thank you!
Watch it again today! I wish everyone would watch Colby and him now.
Wow, Zac looks so much like his dad, Adam Cox.
I can heat the sadness, regret that he wasn’t able to say-or-do anything that would have saved lives.
Zac is also so well spoken and quite good looking.
Very difficult for him. Hard to imagine being surrounded by all that.
Debbie, I couldn't agree more. The damage of Lori and Chads cult is far reaching.
Especially as a young adult. Just a total head fuck. Don't think there is anyone who could live through this and not think "if only....." a million times a day.
Bless his heart.
Do you mean He was being surrounded by evil Monsters Especially Loris Mum and Sister Summer And the Evil Brother Alex!!!!
@Cheyenne Last what do you mean
"If she was fit than, she is fit for trial" gave me shills.
Then...😁
Unfortunately, he said, “if she was fit then, she is fit for trial.”
@13:12 "Yeah, she passed that so she's fit for trial." You said it, Zac
Be well, Zac🙏
If the police had listened to Charles everyone would be alive.
Agree completely.
There is nothing that would have stopped Lori. Same as ID where Tammy Daybell was. She was shot at- it didnt work and they made sure she died later. Tylee was backing up her mom at the police station interview. No ESP there
Right Michelle😇🤥😥😥💕💔
@Tiny Princess You mean if someone is coming up from behind me on the sidewalk swinging a baseball bat and and a cop sees it, he just lets it happen? I don't think so.
tion. Then she would have been out and things would have been worse.
This interview has showed so much more about the story than anything else I’ve seen
My heart goes out to him , Lori has hurt so many people it’s just so very sad.
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And now she's playing gaa gaa...nutty as a fruitcake. NOT BELIEVING THIS EITHER
Guess you don't believe her son either.Wonder how Laurie's sorry ass mom and sister feel Now.Hope they got in hell too.Melinie Gibb and her niece Melanie are guilty too.
@@lyndawadsworth8572 what do you mean about not believing her son ? If your referring to Loris son Colby , he had nothing to do with what his mother, and others did. I think he’s an amazing strong young man. My prayers are with him and his little family. I can’t even imagine what he’s going through losing his sister, brother, and step father not to mention now even his mother.
Thanks for following me how are you doing over there
My heart dropped when he said that Tylee had something to tell him... I can’t believe how much the Cox family enabled Lori’s behavior.
Thanks for following me how are you doing over there
Yes!! They 100% enabled Lori and her lies!!
Zac, thank you for being Tylee’s champion. It seems she had no one else to mourn for her. The Woodcock’s are so strong for JJ and are amazing. It breaks my heart to see Tylee not mentioned as much. 💔
They don’t ignore Tylee in their grief.
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 no idea what you are trying to articulate. Sorry…
Tylee’s brother Colby mourns her. They were very close
Tylee's aunt Annie Cushing advocates strongly for justice for Tylee💞
I agree
A level-headed young man with a clear mind and a clear heart, in spite of it all. He is so right, she accuses others of that which SHE is guilty. May he keep his clarity and his resolve and his health, no matter how unhealthily other family members operate.
*Well said!*
It was refreshing to hear someone talk openly without anything to gain or lose by his account of the events. I can't imagine being in his shoes...had to have been very difficult and scary!
Yes and you don’t know who to trust in his own family. I wonder if he talks to his grandparents and summer now?
this was such an up close perspective into such a difficult time in his family’s life. God bless you, zack 😔❤️
Hearing what Melanie Gibb did to help Lori torment Charles is sickening. She should be held accountable & so many of the family should feel so guilty for how they treated him. Why did Lori have so much control over people? She makes my skin crawl. So evil and foul
Melanie Gibb should already be in prison, she is as guilty as Lori and Chad.
Janise Cox Lori’s mother persecuted poor Charles too smh how all of them haven’t been charged with something
All of the loons obsessed with her while knowing what was happening should be accountable.
Their day will come ... not here and bow but there abs then.
Melanie Gibb and her dumb Boyfriend, now husband should be charged. They were there the night JJ was murdered and likely witnessed, participated * allegedly *
It wasn't Melanie Gibb, it was Brandon Bordeaux's wife, Melanie P. Who helped Lori in relation to Charles. Melanie P. is related to Lori, like her niece or cousin, or something.
I just wanna give him a hug. Zac seems to be riddled with guilt, but if he reads this, you have NOTHING to feel guilty about. Who is EVER going to think something like this would happen?! I hope he accepts that. I'm really sorry for what's happened to his family.
Amen xx
So many victims,such a path of destruction...I hope the innocent family members don´t pay for other people´s sins. There´s NOTHING they could do, NOTHING.
@@politicallyincorrect5802 TOTALLY AGREE!
I’m proud of Zac for standing up for Charles now. Its heartbreaking that he had to experience this trauma first hand. Prayers to the families still grieving.
Colby is also standing up for Charles in his interview, and he was manipulated by Lori and the family against Charles in the same way.
@@ValeskaTruax yes, I remember Colby stated that early on. 💜💙
I can’t imagine how bad Colby feels about that. But that’s his mother, so it’s understandable why he sided w/ her at the time. THAT & he was being manipulated by everyone in his family.
Yeah you can just really understand the trauma that these individual people in this family have gone through is shocking to think someone in your family is going around and killing other family members which is how he described it and how afraid that made them
This kid has come through this mess with incredible maturity and clarity. Despite being led astray and exposed to ridiculous notions he's got it together. GREAT interview Justin.
I really appreciate this interview. It’s one of the most authentic and raw conversation I’ve ever witnessed. I’m so sorry, Zac for what you and your family had to endure… my heart goes out to all of you. I hope you are doing better.
I COULD LISTEN TOO THAT YOUNG MAN FOR HOURS . He’s so well spoken and articulate. God Bless
Zac really gave an inside look into the pain he feels and the fear Tylee went though. I thank him for the details he shared. I would like to hear a lot more from him.
Yes, so mature through all he's been through.
I was thinking the same thing!!!!! Breaks my heart to see him cry! I can’t stand it!
He is well spoken. He doesn’t use the word salad that Lori and the “Melanie’s” use!
If you watch the Charles Vallow 33 min police report video where he's locked out of the house and his kids n family & truck are missing, Charles states he tried to call his nephew Zach 10 times for exactly a week and he returned zero of his calls n messages! So he can say what he wants now..
Of all the interviews on Lori this was the absolute best hands down... have no regrets Zac...
Zac has so much information that we would never have known about. I’m so proud of him for being brave.
It's the most detailed, and gives a lot of new information. I think we've been following the story for so long, there was very little new to learn anymore. All the family members who were interviewed until now (sis, mum, niece) were just blowing smoke. Didn't even know zac existed! What a fine young man. 👏🏾👏🏾
Also sounds like mum knows more than she's telling. What did Tylee tell her the day she came over? That lady needs to be asked some tough questions.
That’s what I was thinking watching this. This is a must watch interview. He gives so much perspective & insight on the whole Cox family dynamic!!! Another good watch is Colby’s recent interview w/ Justin. Good job!!!
@@deniserossiter1059 yes, that was also good. So sad for him. Imagine having the witch for a mum. 😯😯🙆🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️
Zac is the key witness; I hope he’s under protection. Lott G. needs to be behind bars as well.
I hate that Zac has to live with regrets or “I should’ve or could’ve.” I hope he will come to realize that all of that was out of his control and frankly, it’s a miracle that him and his dad got out alive. May there be justice for all of Lori and Chad’s victims.
It's unbelievable how everyone on that side of the family (with the exception of a few) took Lori's word, without even getting Charles's side first. Poor Charles. She did so many crappy things to him even before he died. 😪
He didn't just die he was MURDERED, and then Lori threw a pool party to celebrate the million she was going to rake in. Charles had already changed the beneficiary to Kay his sister, I wish he'd told her she might not have killed him.
Actually it is typical and very believable. It is how cults and cult religions work. Even more so in communities where a particular denomination of religion is the forefront following.
This is a key part of the programingvand control of how cults operate. Do a little studying on the B.I.T.E. model.. and when looking at these churches, religions, groups and the doctrine andcidealisms they believe, teach and follow. It becomes very abundantly clear and obvious.
The way the ostracize, outcast and shun those not of their exact kind and followings is a key and critical proof that it is cultism.
The LDS Mormonism church and all sects of it are very fond of using this tactic. I went through it from them myself when I stopped believing in all that religious stuff. Not just family turned on me, but the whole religious community and churches as a whole.They stick together, back each other up, even when they know they are in the wrong.
It is even tougher when most of the community are all members for the most part of that same cult tied religion. Which was the case with Lori especially when it was requested she be evaluated and the officers involved through that early process before he was killed. Those involved were all members of the same cult church denomination..possibly even the same exact church.
This is what they all lead to eventually in some form or fashion and manner. Tragedy, heartache, grief, pain and loss, suffering and some point of a WTF moment..and people try to understand and are left to try to figure it out.
It was all clear well before.. they're cults.. religious cults are more prone to this type of tragedies.
I often try to warn people to really take a look at any and all denominations and faith, faith belief religions and churches and whatever they call themselves in accordance to a religion of a god deity... look closely and in depth from a stance non affiliated and almost against them and see if the BITE model of cultism applies to them in any way or means..if so run away..far away from them. As it is said, not all cults are religions but all religions are cults..especially Abrahamic belief related ones.
It all came to late for this family to actually step up and out and put an end to all these cult ideologicalisms and ways.. to do so long before these tragedies could ever happen.
@@metalhead0274 I don’t think anyone in the Cox family would be able to leave LDS, they’re all “believers”. The only normal ones are the Vallows and the Ryans, but they’re not her actual family.
For the most part the Cox family are deeply Fkd up people. They are a family with deep deep secrets likely going way way back. Don't be fooled.
Yes and even more when Lori was already speaking about Zombies and becoming fully brainwashed. Charles was victim of domestic violence and narcissistic abuse.
Zac, I’m a grandmother, and I would be SO PROUD AND HONORED TO HAVE YOU AS MY GRANDSON!!! People like you and your Dad make this world a better place!!! I’m so sad that you were prevented from speaking to Tylee on that last day that you saw her. Please continue to hold your head up high, and if you’re still blaming yourself for anything, then it’s time to give yourself permission to forgive yourself. Personally, I believe you have nothing to forgive yourself over. You’re such a good guy. I’m so proud of you!!!
You do know that you cannot actually speak to a video, right? Yes, he’s a great guy, but why are you talking to a recorded video?
@@numberone5680 you never know if he's reading comments , if it makes a person happy , why be a BULLY ..SMH . Not cool. Ignorant infact.
Sharon Clemons Yours is a super rude comment. Honestly people "out there" OFTEN do read comments about themselves and others.
@therealz 360z I totally understand.
He’s father is a weirdo
I feel so much compassion for Zac. This is so traumatic.
It's refreshing to hear Zac speak the truth.
So far he's the only one I truly believe. Charles would be proud of him!
And the only one who makes sense.
His Dad, Adam Cox, brought up the truth, of what he knew, to his and Lori's parents ( about Charles death) and they immediately kicked their son out of their home, while he was visiting them. They were done with Adam AND his son. Very sad, her parents seem to be high enablers to Lori's crazy.
@@sarahmarie5038
I listened to Adam's call. I know everything he said was the truth and matched what Zak had said in his interviews. Adam didn't need to pause and think about what he'd heard and seen!
It's pretty bad that his own mother kicked him out and stopped speaking to him and Zak. She's a poor excuse for a mother, just like Lori. Had they been at the house when Alex and Lori murdered Charles, the mother and Summer probably would have cheered them on!
They're users and abusers!
Adam and Zak are much better off without that evil family.
Don't leave out Lori's son Colby, he didn't know anything about his Mom moving to Idaho, or that she has Married Chad daybell until the news hit that his brother and sister were missing. My Heart reaches out for him and Adam and Zack every one of them were badly affected by Lori and Chad's poor choices.
@@bopeep86 Don't forget Lori is a good manipulator. She probably convinced her parents she was the victim and everybody was against her.
I NEED MORE OF HIS STORY! He has so much more that he witnessed
Yes . . . Part II Please
Zac and Colby need to write a book !
Yes! This interview could have went on much longer why did the reporter cut it off
@@jukie16 can he do interviews then testify?
Yes you can do interviews and still testify. Look at Melanie Gibb.
I'm sure prosecutors prefer they not interview, but can't dictate their actions. If they're smart, they will be careful about what they say and how in depth they would get in an interview, because it could potentially help the other side depending on what is said.
"They were so selfish that it didn't matter" says it all!🌹 Remember Zac Cox, you are not required to carry the burden of their story. I hope you and your family continue to recover from all that you've endured.🙏 Great interview!
The police should be investigated for how they handled Charles's death! Why didn't anyone push the matter?
Yeah!!
Seems like Lori called the shots and everyone danced to her tune for a long time. Even now the court is handling her with kid gloves as opposed to Chad Daybell (who admittedly is also a murderous freak, just not so “pretty”). The bennies of being an outwardly beautiful sociopath...
Surely the officers in the “evaluation” video should be suspended. It was their job to get her to a proper facility to get evaluated, they didn’t. They allowed her to use her cop friend and her botox injected body as leverage.
I’m still sickened by that. You have a guy with a scratch claiming he was beat with a baseball bat and a wife who is laughing and smiling! It was just “ ok, it was self defense- case closed “. It’s absolutely absurd! Charles was completely blown off too. If he was taken seriously, none of this would have happened!
Mormon and FBI and CIA+ working together to hide global sex and science trafficking 🕵️😢
Finally someone wanted to help Charles out.
Finally someone speaking on this case that’s NOT crazy!!! Thank you young man!!! And God bless you!!! ❤
Sounds like Loris mom and sister summer knew a whole lot more than what they stated!
They knew so much more! They are both evil and liars!
He and Colby seem like such good young men. They are caring and sensitive toward others.
💯
It would be nice if Justin would stop interrupting Zac and let him finish his thoughts and comments.
This was a great interview. He knows all the time lines. I hope he’s a witness for the prosecution.
TO YOU, Zac and you father Adam.
How many times did Charles call and text?????? 20+ ?????? And you didn't call???? Wow. You are such a jerk. You lived off them instead of getting your OWN place. He needed you. Your dad didn't call him back either. Ya'll just SUCK. You're NO better than the rest of your family. I don't feel sorry for you. At all. You knew she was having an affair. You knew she was om her 5 the marriage, and how many of them were dead before the life ink on the life insurance was dry? Disgusting...... And all these comments about how wonderful you are is pathetic. You and your father were there from Kansas and knew Charles came in from Houston. Your father didn't call like he'd commitfex to. You didn't respond and even RAN from their house KNOWING CHARLES WAS COMING TO THE HOSE WHERE ALEX AND LORI WERE. AND THEEEEEEN STIIIIIL DIDNT CALL HIM BACK. You're no hsro. You dropped tbe ball and LET CHARLES DOWN TO HIS DEATH. Your father KNEW there was something wrong with Alex taking a week off work when he were coming to stay with Alex, NOT HOUSESIT - the whole reason he came was ALLEGEDLY to help Charles, knew Alex was at Lori's, didn't EVER call Charles UNTIL AFTER HE WAS DEAD, when he'd been in town for 3 days - and found OTHER THINGS TO DO THEN GO FIND CHARLES. YOUR DAD DIDNT CALL FOR 3 DAYS AFTER HE SAID HE WOULD, NOR GO FIND ALEX.
YOU'RE A LIAR. YOU DIIIIIIIIIID HEAR FROM CHARLES - HE LEFT YOU HOOOOOW MAAAANY TEXTS AND MESSAGES?????????? THE SAME FOR YOUR DAD!!!!!!!!! AND YOU DIDNT CALL HIM UNTIL YOU WENT TO ANOTHER CITY TO VIDIT SOMEONE EEEELSE. JUST DISGUSTING.
YOU BOTH LET HIM DOWN.
AND IT LED TO HIS DEATH.
YOU ARENT CLRAR HERE. THIS ALL OCCURRED IN 3 DAYS FROM THE DAY YOUR FATHER CAME TO TOWN, WHICH IS THE SAME DAY YOU RAN TO GRANNYS, AND NOT UNTIL 3 DAYS LATER DID YOUR FRIEND GOOGLE HIM.
GOOOOGLED HIM.
GOOGLED HIM.
YALL DIDNT CALL HIM, FIND HIM, SEE HIM. NOTHING.
YOUR FATHER GAVE HIS STORY TO THE COPS. NOW WITH YOURS, ITS CLEAR THAT NEITHER OF YOU KEPT YOUR COMMITTMENT TO CHARLES.
AND YOU ARE SO MANIPULATIVE IN NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.
AND HES DEAD.
AND YA'LL ARE GIVING INTERVIEWS.
YOU SUCK. YOUR FATHER SUCKS.
I HOPE IT EATS AT.
QUIT RAVING ON YOUR FAMILY NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING WHEN YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP AND YOU BLEW HIM OFF. EVEN AFTER HAVING STAYED FOR MONTHS AT HIS HOME, AND LEFT BECAUSE boo hoo YOU DONT LIKE CONTROVRSY .
DISGUSTING.
HORRIFIC.
I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR TOUGH SITUATION. YOYRE A COWARD. YOU DONT STAND UP FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FREELY GIVEN AND STOOD UP FOR YOU.
DISGUSTING.
Not so far but you're right he should be
I hope his father Adam Cox is a witness for the prosecution.
This is one of the greatest interviews I have seen in a long time. Give this fox reporter a letter of commendation
This reporter is great--he not only asks good questions but he also has the professionalism to shut up and listen to the answers.
I totally agree with you the Fox reporter REALLY, REALLY listened to Zac poor chap to have to endure such craziness in his life.
Poor Tylee. She was trapped. Wish she could have gotten away. Her grandmother is partly responsible.
Tylee even tried cleaning her room to get on Lori’s good side by cleaning her room. Poor Tylee 🇨🇦
Yes! Grandmother played an integral part in facilitating all this. Many disagree but she KNEW Charles had been killed, knew Lori was delusional for a while, not the least bit worried when in Idaho never talked to her grandchildren or FaceTime. If she had spoken up in Chandler would the kids have ever been taken away to Idaho? 😡
She couldn't even run away because she loved JJ so much and wouldn't have wanted to leave him alone in that situation
That poor broken-hearted young man. He loved his cousins, Tylee and JJ. How scary that his family all lived in fear of being next. May God bless your family with strength to get through this. There was nothing you could have done differently.
Stay strong Zach. It's had to have been tough on you and your Dad, being the only sane members of the family through Lori's web of lies and manipulation.
And thank you for sharing your side of the story and shedding light on all of this.
Don't pay any attention to the negativity and toxicity from the public. Y'all have been through enough.
This man is not fake crying. He's trying very hard not to break down in tears in front of complete strangers on camera. There's a big difference there.
@@robwilliams7128
Absolutely!
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Wow, Zac was lucky, Lori didn't call him a zombie! As looney as she was.
27:40 I lost it...so, so heartbreaking. Stay strong Zac-you have nothing to feel guilty about. Thank you for sharing. I’m sorry for all of those harmed by these horrible people.
Thank you so much for sharing, Zac. I am so sad about what happened to you and your family. I've listened to hundreds of hours of commentary on this sad, sad series of events. Of the family members, it is obvious you are clear minded on the reality of what happened. I know you say you have regrets but, you couldn't possibly have known that Lori's crazy thoughts would manifest in the murder of Tylee and JJ. And, even if you had strongly suspected it might, no one would have listened to you and there was literally nothing you could have done. The authorities didn't even listen to Charles. Listening to Chad's children defend him was so frustrating. I understand defending your father but, not now. Not after everything we know. Given that what's done is done and can't be changed, I am so grateful to know you are there to bring a sane perspective on this terrible, terrible tragedy. Stay strong, Zac. You are needed to help bring whatever measure of justice that can be brought to this tragic situation.
Thanks for the additional insight Zack and Justin. Sorry for your loss in Tylee, JJ, and Charles.💔💔💔
Wow. That was so illuminating, tragic, and upsetting to listen to. Thanks to Zac and Justin for sharing.
So glad that Charles changed his beneficiary to his sister!
Wow. How was Lori able to keep Charles phone! Why didn't the police take the phone the day of Charles death as evidence. She told the police that very day she and Charles argued over phone!!!. This makes me angry. Terrible police work!!!
@HAL TheBirdLady
Either That, Or Someone In
PD/Law Enforcement Was In
On The Murder Plot For SOME Kind Of Renumeration !! ??
Police are lazy. My friend's husband is a cop and he is as lazy as possible at his job. They just want to collect their paychecks without actually doing any police work. And they get away with it because we have this misplaced reverence for police.
I’ve wondered this countless times!
Zac thanks for being the adult in the room. The way that Lori's mom and sis bought into her story was an embarrassment. You have a good head on your shoulders.
It is so horrible on so many levels what Lori and Chad and their followers did to these good people. I hope this sane group can fully heal from all this betrayal. Zac like a genuinely good guy. Charles, Tylee and JJ were lucky to know and love him.
First impression of Zac...a very articulate young man.
You can tell that young man is struggling.. so heartbreaking!
This story is incredible! Sending prayers 🙏🙏 for Zac and family.
Grandma and Grandpa Cox are probably going crazy with the murder charges.
Lori left a huge and wide path of destruction with so many victims!!!!
This is one of the most fascinating interviews of the entire case. I could feel my own dysfunctional family as he discussed it. Everything seemed real as opposed to the factual interviews and tabloid type stories that have dominated this case. It may have been hard for him to go on camera, but there are lessons to be learned for all of us here.
I heard about these interviews when in Gray Hughes' chat about Mollie Tibbetts murder earlier this evening.
His incredible story should be shouted from mountaintops.
Ikr 😞
Well put Chair Yoga For The Ageless
I wish he would have let him talk more about those messages, taking his phone, that phone should’ve been with his own family, not with Lori family. Some women would’ve came out if he was cheating. She had her eye on the writer and with his themes she had a match, she was the one cheating I hope the family finally believes this evil pos Alex Lori and chad.
I bet lori did not think zac was a zombie
Terrific interview. So sad for Zac and the sane part of his family. What a terrible thing to go through.
Imagine being in a family where you're scared of being the next "dark" spirit and getting shunned by Lori, your favourite aunt that everyone in the family loves. It's just... Unimaginable 😭 I'm so glad he got out of that situation safely, he could've been on that list!!
Afraid of being killed by uncle too. With family like that, an enemy would be preferable.
@@Jeweliedear 😂exactly!!
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I can’t figure out what she had that made everyone love her- her family, friends and how many husbands was it? She’s cheap, vain, stupid if she believes in this religious stuff- but downright crazy if she believes the zombie isht. How did she bankroll everything (houses/cars/travel) before she started these murders for profit?
@@kathrynwitte3398 I'm not sure but a lot of people have said that she is really charming and sweet ((despite being absolutely crazy) narcissists will love bomb you and then charm you with a dazzling personality, so that you're caught in their web, and they can more easily persuade you into trusting them and their beliefs.
Zac, i'm so sorry you had to go through this.
Like Zac stated towards the end of this interview, nobody once ever asked the accused for their side of the story. That has always baffled me how someone can lie and disparage someone’s reputation, and yet, not one person that was told the lies, ever questioned or got the side of the story from the accused….Unbelievable!
What a great but heart breaking interview. Well done Justin on your truth seeking and thank you Zac for sharing your story, may you find comfort and peace.
This interview was so informational. I almost forgot about Zac living with Lori and Charles....There is NO way she is unfit to stand trial
IMO I think the judge is dotting his I,s and crossing his T,s....So that his bases are covered against appeal issues later
What an insightful young man. He acknowledged the changes he noticed in her mentally and understood so much of the mental dynamics of the family!! He seems to be the only member of that family looking at reality.
Wow great interview. This poor guy . He has seen and been through so much.
Lori simply played everyone in her orbit. The ultimate Puppet Master.
I'm watching this two days after Lori was found Guilty of the murders of Tylee, JJ and Tammy. The crazy stuff in the trial about the shape the bodies were in when they found them and the texted between Lori and Chad😢😢😢😢 so awful
She had everyone fooled. And there is no way, he could have seen what was going to happen, even if he did, he could not have stopped her....
Lori is still manipulating everyone. She is manipulating the courts now.
yes and i even think she fooled Chad Daybell, she felt trapped, after so many marriages, and kids, she snapped, believing she was some godlike person, she is a narcissist
she is a psychopath
@@paulam.593 I don't think she snapped..narcs have to have attention and respect...she planned all this...and she enjoys victimhood...she planned it, she didn't snap...but that's just my opinion
Master manipulator! And now she's manipulating the courts! I don't think she manipulated Chad tho cuz he was saying Tammy was gonna die young before he met Lori! But what is so sad is how almost the whole cox family sided with Lori without even speaking to Charles! N Ive been saying Alex was offed or even committed suicide just to protect her! Tylee knew her mom and Alex planned this and she was killed for knowing too much! Ugh. It's just horrific what they did to both children but to shoot her and then to cut her into pieces and burn her like that by her own uncle and that evil POS Chad makes me physically sick! And poor J.J. being snuffed out like he meant nothing to them. But he wasn't biologically related and just in the way!
So good to hear from him! Would love to hear him go on uninterrupted. So interesting.
Agreed
Just going back and listening to this interview again it’s shocking how Lori’s mother played such an integral part in all of this. 😡
it's called enabling.
Her mother is a narc too.. I heard that Lori and her mother act the same way.. both are narcs
yup.
Mothers of beauty pageant contestants and other narcissistic "look at me, me, me" platforms typically always contribute by grooming their girls....how pretty they are, how smart they are. This is but one horrific monster created that the whole family was scared of. They are coming out now that they have survived, money and celebrity is to had. Lori is dangerous crazy and if sh e ever gets out of prison, they would need to sleep and eat with one eye open.
Lori was like an infection, she got inside & controlled so many. It makes sense hearing this, why her mother lied about talking to JJ when we know he was already dead. This familial bullying tactic is appalling. Definitely not within Zac's control. If the PD had taken Charles seriously or acted after his murder this could have ended so differently, these questions need answering at some point. To think even after Charles feared for his life he was still thinking of her and trying to help her. My heart hurts for Zac and the many innocent family & friends caught up in this web of evil destruction & devastation.
I hope there is an investigation into the breakdown among Arizona police dept and investigation of Charles' complaints and death. In these states the first responders need additional training in dealing with these cult situations.
Her mother, Summer, Melanie and probably more need to face charges as well 😡
@@5wheels521 i bet Melanie made a deal to testify for immunity....many people think there will be more arrests in this case
And now she's incompetent to stand trial?????
@@justmissjamey
There needs to be more of them charged, co-conspiracy,,
The fact of having knowledge of her evilness puts them as co-conspirators of the 2nd degree
I love this guy. He is the most honest and caring one I've seen of the whole Cox side of the family. Bless his heart. You can just tell that everything he's saying is truthful. I'm so glad he shared this with us. Thank you Zac. Prayers. & thank you Justin.
My heart really goes out to him. Ppl who commit murder are always so selfish and never even consider all the lives they’re tormenting
YES, dude. You got it right. She IS fit for trial. No shame in trying to escape the DRAMA for a minute.
Wow. That was alot. Lori was manipulating everybody. Poor Charles never stood a chance
Nobody stood a chance with that witch ...
Now she's pretending she's not in her right mind ...
But she's not able to manipulate the court ..
Had the PD taken everything seriously (which they have a duty to do) there could have been a very different outcome. Theres a very real stigma of the woman always being believed & that they're always the victim & the man the perpetrator. It's an outdated belief & one that cost many people their lives.
A lot. NOT alot.
@@lulamamie8524 mind your own business this is about a terrorist not my spelling. Hyper righteous are we!
@@MissPril - LOL 😂
Beautiful interview. Thanks for posting
This poor kid man. All these people who lived through this, lost cousins and loved ones are all victims as well. How many people can one person kill and hurt all those peoples loved ones before she’s treated like a serial killer/domestic terrorist. This poor kid lived though something to crazy to be a movie plot and he still seems so grounded. He’s also positive considering what he’s endured. I’m really impressed by him.
Don't forget God also😢🙏👼
Same, I’m impressed by how well he still has a cold head on his shoulders. This whole story is tragic.
@@phyllisirwin5660 If there was god things like this wouldn't happen. The innocent wouldn't suffer at the hands of pure evil. If there is a God he's really twisted and a sadistic.
I hope that Zac has a lot of support from his immediate family. Yes, I am a grandmother and I would love to have him as a grandson also, what a fine man.
This is why I dont think Lori deserves an insanity plea. Even if she deluded herself into believing she was a goddess, she was incredibly cruel and highly manipulative. She was well aware of what she was plotting to do to Charles and sane enough to lie and turn everyone against him and even this poor kid. A whole family who would do that to such a great kid who was taking care of Loris kid for her has got to be rotten to the core. Its so sad Tylee didnt get to break that cycle, as Im sure she would have if she were allowed to live.
Bless him! I am crying watching this. There are so many people affected by all of this mess.
Everyone on the family knew Charles would die, same with JJ and Tylee-and No One calls the authorities -even after they go missing. Disgusting . Lives could have been saved.
You didn’t do this Zac you could not have prevented it…. God be with you.
How can you all god to be with him when you condemn those whom did exactly as god commanded of all his children? God commands we kill disobedient children, people with emotional and mental dysfunctions and all those whom claim to be addicts. So how then can you condemn those whom do exactly as good commands? Also, let us not forget that Jesus condemned also for not sticking to this commandment of God. So it was mentioned both by God in the old testament and by Jesus in the new testament. So again, how can we claim to be Christians then condemn those whom actually do?
Also, let us not forget the entire new testament is based on a zombie and a battle of light against dark. Not to mention the old testament. All of christianity is based on what a zombie said. Let us not forget that. So then how can we without sin call them cultists?
@@phillipstroll7385 ok there Cult man🤣🤣🤣
@@shannondyke3585 I think it's funny when someone points out your own beliefs to you based on the very book you claim is God's word you become so uncomfortable in your own hypocrisy that your immediate go to is to bear false witness and lay out by calling me a name, again, in false witness. Mind you, without any evidence at all to back your little toddler tantrum. These things are clearly written. So why then do Christians ignore them? Could it be that all gods are created in the self to confirm self beliefs and not actually an independent presence? If there is an independent God then why do you ignore him and vilify those whom don't?
@@shannondyke3585 if you can't or won't answer the question just say so. Don't condemn yourself in sin by bearing false witness. After all, that is a commandment too. In case you've forgotten.
@@phillipstroll7385 you're insane...I sure hope you don't have kids or
Around other humans much
I hope Zac and Colby stay close. Just so heart wrenching. In anyone’s wildest dreams they could not have foreseen what played out no matter how many times you think it over so I hope you guys can realize that. 💙💜
Lori won’t allow him, Colby or this young man or his family even in jail. Total family manipulation as a devil that she was.
Wow, what a wonderful person Zac is. I'm so sorry for what he went through. He is so strong to have the attitude he has. God Bless you, Zac.
That grandmother has alot to answer for. The blood of her grandchildren will be on her hands
Worlds worst grandma award. I started tearing up when zac was talking about tylee and how that old witch was basically pushing her out of the kitchen
Tylee IS their grandchild. They're talking about Barry and Janice Cox.
The whole family is is bat shit crazy
@Loulou Bos not the wooodcocks, we’re talking about Janice cox, loris mom
A lot. NOT alot.
Thank you. This fills ALOT of backstory of where the insanity began.
He is the first person who I have heard say, “Alex was always a weird guy, “ interesting
i heard Alex was always getting kicked out of church because he was a sex addict.
Best interview questions. With everyone. Really good interviews.
. . . and he never cuts his interviewee short. He lets them express their thoughts.
@@TomLloyd-18 😂😂
I really like the man interviewing, I can’t think of his name. He is genuinely invested in the feelings of this family, it’s obvious. He has a wonderful vibe, asks the right questions and allows people time to actually give the story.
@@JL-zn7me Yeah . . they shoulda put his name in a little box next to his picture thru the entire interview . . . oh . . . wait . . . They did that.
Lindsay you look beautiful in your picture I agree what you say
Zac had so much more to say, ppl when you interview someone let them speak. He was cut off prematurely. I hope we hear from him again.
Legal reasons. Justin Lum isn’t crazy. He knows what he’s doing.
I agree.. Honestly... Shameful and let him SPEAK... he's who we want to hear.. !!
I’m Thankful For Everything We
Got From This Interview !
No Reason To Whine About It Having To End Sometime !!
Agree
_Lori's cousin told in an interview how Lori, when she was about 15, was driving at night with a boyfriend of hers and a cat was walking across the street...the boyfiend said to Lori he is going to try and run the cat over...which he proceeded to do. The cousin said Lori was NOT FASED AT ALL and continued to laugh and chat as if nothing had happened. We all know the first sign of being a psychopath as a child is cruelty to animals. I rest my case._
I've been saying since the day Charles was murdered... Melanie Gibb knows so much more than she lets on.
There's a recording out there of Melani Gibb speaking to a fb friend on the phone. She basically said she knew everything! Also, she was staying with Lori just before Charles was killed.
Melani & David were staying with Lori when JJ was killed.
She lied to cops about JJ being with her when they did the welfare check on him. She is involved.
Listen to Awen Rees channel, video from yesterday or today.
She goes over what was on the recording.
@@bonnielucas1941 yes, and now the woman who has the original recording, has pulled out, and said that she can’t broadcast it. For unknown reasons.
@@debrataggart116 Maybe she is going to testify?
@@bonnielucas1941 Melanie Gibb spoke to a friend months after the murders and after already speaking to the FBI. She did not say that she knew about the murders when they happened, let alone in advance. Lori and Chad were recorded trying to convince her that JJ was safe and that Tammy's death was natural.
Dear Zac.... most of us humans are haunted by something we wish we could have done better, and differently, in our lives; we think and believe that we could have been perfect if we had just tried harder. We must keep in mind that we are mere humans, and that means making mistakes continually; we must learn to grant the compassion we feel for others to ourselves, as well. Many people feel your pain, and are sending love and comfort to you.
So well said. And absolutely true. Hindsight is always 20/20. Zac did the best he could at the time with the information he had. No one could have imagined that Lori would start wiping out her family.
Perfectly said. My heart really goes out to the innocent members of this family. Most people watching this will have great compassion for you, Zac. You deserve that compassion. You are speaking out now. Give yourself the grace and compassion so many have for you. I have sons and I watched this and wanted to give you a hug. I hope you have a good support system now.
Zac should never feel guilt. He did not do this. He showed Tylee, JJ and Charles love while they were here. He could not have stopped what happened.
❤️❤️
You stated things so eloquently!! I 1000 percent agree with you!! Zac don't beat yourself up over this! You're a fine Young Man!!
13:10 She passed the mental evaluation so shes fit for trial... EXACTLY!!! Psychopaths always turn what they are doing onto others. She is a manipulative liar, and muderer. He seems like a stand up guy. It's sad he has a lot of regret. It wasn't his fault. I agree with him about Alex as well. I think they killed him also.
Justin- please do a part 2 this is the best interview EVER done. He’s obviously the most honest of the Cox family. Janice can’t tell the truth if her life depends on it.
I hate to say this, but I think he is more sincere than Colby. I think Colby still is a little protective with his mom. God is going to bless this kid. He is so honest and sincere.
@@truthseeker1234 I totally agree with you. What a riveting account of the most unimaginable horror. How sick to imagine your aunt and uncle plotting to kill you and your dad! That’s not your everyday situation by any means.
Oh and yes, way more sincere than Colby I agree. He is so good at painting the story for the listener. It just draws you in because it’s such an honest account. He’s not worried about image one bit!
Watch lori's Son Colby...Incredible young man as well...I could really get these two mixed up....
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Sounds like perhaps Lori took advantage of Alex's being a bit "off," or vulnerable.
No doubt- She could manipulate him easily.
Yes. I wonder how much we don't know. Especially if she manipulated them when she was a teenager...
Not just her brother Alex but she was like that to Chad also ,, she seen that "a bit off" in Chad , like this boy says.
Hell yes! She had him do her dirty work, and then she offed him too!
Obviously.
So brave this young man has come forward and explained. I hope he's called as a witness and justice can be served.
Thank you Zac. This is a very emotional interview. Justin you are awesome. Thank you both. Prayers with you and your family Zac.
Justin, your interviews with Lori's family members are awesome. They are so brave to open up to viewers about their pain. Thank you for sharing, and God bless you, Zak.
My heart breaks for this man. May he find some comfort and peace
Their younger guys turned out good in the family at least. Both this fella and Colby seem like good kids!
How were Zac and Adam related to Lori? Was Adam Lori’s husband before Charles?
@@c.l.888 Adam is Lori's and Alex's brother.
Justin, thank you for giving them all their own voices to speak their thoughts, feelings, and their hurt. Very much appreciated!
Zak is a great young man as is his Dad and Uncle Charles. He will go far in life. Best wishes to him.
this needs to be heard,the prosecutor needs to talk to him,hes got lots of info bombs
They have.
I am thinking he had already shared it, and that some of this info perhaps was waiting to be disclosed. There is a lot LE held back to protect integrity of case.
He even has the inside scoop on Melanie p. I hope she goes down soon for Brandon’s attempted shooting.
@@jukie16 I think she will be. With all of the people who have lost their lives surrounding this case, they could be held liable if anything happened.
He's on the witness list
He sounds like an amazing cousin and nephew. They would be very proud of him.
This made it ALL make sense! Great interview! No tangents at all, riveting to hear his story!
Why did the reporter cut this off? We need a part 2 because that was the most interesting interview I’ve seen from a cox family member and it seemed like he had more to tell.
It didn't look to me like the reporter cut things off. It looked more like he had planned to stop after a given duration. I'm sure we'll hear more from Zac.
100% agreed.
I was impressed with him. Seemed like he needed someone to ask him his view on all of this.
This young man could easily write a book from his perspective after both trials. I would buy and read it. He is looking at things logically and realistically.
I know.. He was awful... Kept interrupting... Very very frustrating... Bad form!
I am crying with Zac, how sad.
Janis (and Barry) knew Alex and Lori killed Charles 😡😡😡 then has the audacity to go on national TV and laugh about people saying Alex was Lori’s protector. WOW!
And lie and say.... i spoke to JJ in October.....
@@jennifer-annehunter2827 REALLY !!
And let's not forget Summer who lied and said she called Al to ask him fo be at Lori's bc Charles was coming. And he was oh so violent etc. These family members should be charged bc they lied and helped cosign Lori's bs which is ultimately what led to other family members dying. From watching the mother & sister- it is no wonder Lori ended up so delusional and playing people like puppets. The only good normal people in that family are Adam, Zac, and Colby. The others are sick and twisted and they all have Tylee, JJ, & Charles blood on their hands too. Sick sick sick!!!
Good interview. Life changing for this young man. 😫 Brave to speak out. Charles would be proud of him.
I feel so sorry for this young man 😔 I just can't imagine how he is processing all of the horrific things that have happened around him 💔 RIP JJ, Tylee, Tammy, and Charles 🕊️🙏🕊️🙏🕊️🙏🕊️🙏