GOLF: The Square To Square Swing Method
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- The Square To Square Swing Method
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I’ve known and followed Sam Goulden for many years. So, it was a blast to get to spend some time with him at his beautiful Manhattan Beach location and film a few videos talking about his Square to Square Swing Method - a simple way to swing the club that produces solid contact, a forward low point, and consistent results.
In this video, Sam takes us through the setup and backswing pieces that can help you keep the face as square to the plane as long as possible in the backswing and set you up for an effortless downswing.
Special thanks to Scott Morgan and The Lakes At El Segundo for allowing us to film while in the Los Angeles area.
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This is probably one of the best golf videos I have ever seen. To anyone watching this, try it and you will be amazed how solid and straight you'll hit the ball.
Thanks, Ed! I really like it as well...great compression!
This has become my go to shot for my irons...might be the most valuable thing I've learned from this channel...I used my full swing still with my mid to longer irons...but man, this thing is money from like 8 iron down...compression great, comes off low and straight...roll it right up to the green...I usually only use my full swing now when I feel like I'm in a situation where I think I can stick it close and there's no trouble...but if irs a super guarded green or if ur just not hitting it well, its great...im.telling you guys...LEARN THIS METHOD...so valuable
Love it, Mark!
I have been very upset with my game. Totally lost confidence due to the occasional bi-lateral shot that would come out of nowhere. I stumbled onto this video, watched it, went to the range and for the first time in two years I’m back. Killing it very straight, very consistent.
I’m in heaven and owe it to you guys. Thanks a million. This is so simple to understand and implement.
Glad to hear you are heading in the right direction, Brett!
I think I have watched 100 RUclips videos on how to make my club feel more square on my downswing, and this is the best one I’ve found so far. My irons are pure. Im going to test this on my driver for the backswing. Thank you so much!
Our pleasure Aaron! Appreciate you watching!!
Eric i am a 4.6 hip from sweden and this is crazy. I tried this this morning on the range, i hit approxiamately 100 shots, in the afternoon i went out on the course - i hit the ball 10 meters longer than before and 100% straighter this is right up my alley so thanks for one more perfect videos!
Love to hear that, Henry! I'm sure Sam will be glad to see that as well!
@@CogornoGolf Please tell Sam that this is great stuff for me, and basically ridiculous easy for me to adapt!
Great video Eric. I have followed Sam a long time and have him to thank for first learning how to compress a ball. His method is so simple, it is easy to discount as not possible. I remember the first time I performed it successfully I could not believe the power you can generate with such a simple motion. For me it was a lightbulb moment, wow that’s what a well hit shot should feel like. You are both great teachers. Good luck to both of you.
He's great! Thanks for the kind words, Dave! Hope all is well!
Hi Eric....Amazing video, that is exactly how I practice for many years, and I find it very compacted and solid, he is absolutely right. I'm very glad you found him and sharing his thoughts, you are just reinforcing my knowledge in golf. When I started watching the video...my wife and I said at the same time, "what a beautiful golf bag" without knowing the extras. You are the greatest Eric.
Appreciate it my friend! Thanks for being with us! Its an AWESOME bag....highly recommend. I got one for myself!!
Just got home from my best ever round of 6 over gross, I play off 12 but have been struggling of late.
I watched this video twice and hit around 30 balls on the range, played a friendly round with two mates and....wow unbelievable improvement.
I really get the concept of trapping the ball with more grooves and compressing. Wish is saw this years ago. Thank you for sharing this great advice.
Have never commented on a golf video before.
So glad to hear this one helped, Michael! Congrats on the personal best!!
I have been following Sam and Square to Square for a long time. I use this system for pitching and chipping. I also use this feel to get my Driver back on track. I am a hooker and an early extender. This system keeps me on plane and helps me keep turning through impact.
Love it!
Great reminder, this is how I learned golf years ago but forgot somewhere along the way. Fantastic video Eric!
Thanks, Jason!
Great video!! Been playing almost 60 years, and Square to Square was first introduced in Golf Digest back in the late 60s. It made sense then and still makes sense today. By using this method, it always feels like you’re in a strong position and the draw comes naturally!!
Love it, Mark!!
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I started this about a year ago when I “lost” my swing. I used my driver to my wedges. 4:30 to 7:30, them on to 3:00 to 9:00, then onto full swing. I keep my swing more vertical now.
Good process.
Love it
A fellow golfer at the range yesterday saw that my swing was “flat” and causing me to hook the ball and not make solid contact. He showed me this exact method and proved to me that with solid contact and consistency, you can effortlessly hit around 140 yards with the Pitching wedge. Straight and on line as well. Can’t wait to practice this this afternoon at the range!
Love it!
Thanks so much for all the content Eric...and Sam is just an awesome guy to feature. I've seen many of his videos, and they are so simple to follow. It is a treat to have guys as gifted as you to address our limited talent. It is very smart of you guys to also realize we (5+ handicap) make up 95% of the golfing world, not scratch players.
Our pleasure my friend! Hope they help...appreciate you being with us :)
Absolutely fantastic instruction. Thank you!
Great vid. Thank you.
I have a memory of Dick Altums book The Square to Square Golf Swing of 50 plus years ago which advocated, among other things, that the takeaway should include a 'slight' (never defined) curling under of the last 3 fingers of the lead hand to keep the face hooded going back. The method, as I recall, was heavily debunked by golf teachers at that time. I don't recall ever reading in the book, about the 'setting impact alignments and maintaining them' notion - fresh thinking, same name. Thanks for the insight👍👍👍
👊Love it Bill! Hope this one helps your game!
New golfer comes for a lesson. Show me the sweet spot on your 9 iron. Now stand like an athlete and put that sweet spot against the ball. Keep pointing the sweet spot at the ball during your backswing and stop when you can no longer do it. The world of slicers has now claimed one less victim. I do this 'start at impact drill' when I lose my way and it resets me immediately. I too am going to steal Sam's sweet spot idea - it's brilliant.
It's all yours Paul. Spread the game :)
Lol love it!
hey paul ... the world of hookers is about to lose one too ... at least looks that way with sponge balls in my yard ... :)
Eric, enjoyed the video. QUESTION: Does the square to square swing work for hybrid/rescue clubs as well?
Here’s the problem with this: I played today and shot well -78. Left several shots out there for sure. Now it’s 10:00 and I’m watching this in bed and won’t be able to get out for another week!! I’ve been trying something like this but your explanations and visuals make it so clear, I cannot wait the full week!!! Great video and explanations.
Thanks, Ron! Hope it helps moving forward my friend! Appreciate the kind words!
Eric, once again another great video. this concept is so helpful to my game.i love your approach to teaching the game, keep em coming
Thank you William!
Eric: Fantastic tip and that's saying something given how many great drills and tops you have given over the years. Can you share if this drill needs to be tweaked at all for chipping and pitching practice? Thanks for all that you do for golf improvement.
Thanks, John! Yes...I would make some adjustments for chipping when you need to get the ball to launch a little higher and/or need to use more bounce.
Search my name and "chipping" and "wedges" and you will see loads of videos.
Here are some to get you started:
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ruclips.net/video/awCfo5bmwiY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/gRDGdkIyg8s/видео.html
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Great video Eric I have been watching Sam’s videos for a while now and this swing has really helped me. I think it’s pretty awesome what you have been doing with different instructors.
Thank you! Really fun for us! Sam is awesome!
Amazing I thought I had invented a golf swing. This has been exactly my thought process for about 4 months now, but this added on that shaft lean for ideal sweet spot and that's just gold
Excellent! Sounds like you're heading in the right direction!
I’m having a really hard time with an open face using this method. I hit the ball super solid. But I can not close the face to save my life on the way down. Any tips?
You need to swing on an arc so you have to do what is called a "cornering" release. It's not a straight release but it will feel like you are cornering left. Hope that makes sense 😃.
Another faster could be not being synced up with your turn/arms/wrists. If your body it's turning too fast and you drag your arms=push. The opposite would be if you stop your body you flip the club. You need somewhere in between.
it's funny to me watching this cuz this swing is about all i can do. this IS my swing and NOT a "drill".
what i am working on is smthg you do very naturally with your left side through impact and finish. getting my left hip back there and on the outside of my shoe. i have let that get away from me the last few years. btw...your swing at about 17:30 was one of the best i've seen you do. i bet that felt awesome
Thats all good! You can play darn good golf with nothing more than the "drill" swing...
I was striking it well this day for sure! Great compression with even just that setup adjustment with ball more in middle of face (leaning shaft more than normal for me)
More good instruction thoughts! I discovered recently the importance for me to focus on the sweet spot of the club face impacting the back of the ball. Before I always looked at my irons leading edge and would tend to hit fat digging the leading edge under the ball. I found if I focused on the sweet spot contact improved magically. Golf is strange!
Goofy game for sure!
Great video, really like the simplicity of the back to back swing move. I am very excited to try this on the range. It's going to be a challenge to shorten my back swing at least with my hands but as said in the video, it groves the swing and feel for solid contact. Also love the functionality and innovation of the golf bag... You know it's a great design when you step back and say Damn, why didn't I think of that... Thanks again...
Thanks, Darrell! I quite like this as well! Hope it helps!
This one piece action reminds me of Steve Stricker's swing, sets up for impact and turns every thing away in one piece ans turns through in one piece , in other words he maintains his impact position back and through, very consistent action! Great video really enjoyed this one!
Yes---good example! We would all love to play like him!
Sam is a huge Stricker fan. Can you imagine if you could putt like Stricker?! Even Tiger goes to him for lessons. Take care.
I watched this video yesterday and took it to the course today. Still a lot of work to do but I was striking the ball better than I have in years.
Love to hear that, Greg! Hope it continues to help!
🙀 thanks guys that's deep
Love the "4th/5th" groove thought. Incorporating that + Tourstriker Planemate = solid backyard sessions into the net until courses open. Hope you're doing well Eric, stay safe.
I really like that one too! Looks like the face is more tilted down for me than normal...I was really compressing them nicely that day. Handle also felt more forward for me than normal at setup.
Hope you guys are good-we are all good....really to get back out in a few weeks!
Another great video! Thanks for sharing swing theories from so many great swing patterns including yours!
Thank you Scott!👊
Really good video Eric and Sam. I'm a roller of the clubface in the backswing and am working on trying to keep it much more square to the arc. However, this "feel" seems to really shorten up my already short backswing and I'm not really sure why. Is this something other golfers have mentioned?
Hey Mark! Hope all is well and hope it helps....
If its too short feel free to add elements to make it longer
1. More body turn late
2. More extension of torso late
3. Arms continuing to travel UP and IN late
etc
This could be the best golf video ever. I just tried it. And wow. It feels so good.
Love it! Thanks!
@@CogornoGolf How much is the two day in Bethlehem?
@@CogornoGolf How would you do this with driver?
Hey Rich! No 2 day schools on the schedule as for now....could be same thing for driver. Depends....I would need to see your swing on video to say for sure.
Check out www.cogornogolf.com you can send in your videos there for us to help!
Another great video. And what a great winter season for you and us! You've had a huge number and variety of excellent golf instructors this year. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks man! Appreciate you being with us....an awesome couple of months for us! Really fortunate!
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Hi Eric- just luv yr approach to golf instruction. .....today Sam Goulden. Mike Malaska before, amongst others. .....not sure which you really recommend. However, as I am desperately trying to shorten my swing maybe the Square to Square might just work out. Many thanks.
Hey Robin!
Thank you for the kind words.
You NEED to figure out WHY your swing is too long (and confirm whether thats an issue or not) and fix that ROOT CAUSE.
This may help:
ruclips.net/video/PsEjgXMqIAs/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/pGFXRKq2JwY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/4lQpvruarYE/видео.html (stick drill)
If you dont get it sorted check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and I can tell you WHY its too long and HOW to fix.
Many thanks Eric for yr prompt reply......Much appreciated
sam is a genuine nice guy. I met him in Santa Monica I think when he was handling that indoor golf lounge with simulators etc. was very professional. I also use a forward shaft lean at address like he promotes. did wonders for my ballstriking.
Agreed....he's such a good guy. On and off the course!
Glad I started watching your videos again. Good stuff!
Thanks for coming back :)
Great video Eric and I love the bag. Early fathers Day gift to myself!
Thanks man! I Love it....Mary and I each got one for ourselves!
Great video, I love the simplicity of the drill.👍
Thanks, Matthew!
Gotta rotate hard, but really great swing method if you can...I love it, transformed my game
Glad to hear that, Mark!
I think this will be a great compliment to the clothes hanger drill. It seems it will give me some of the same feels of not over-rotating my wrists. Great Job!
Yes! Thanks, Greg!
🙀 call in the union
been following sam for years, great video!!!
Thanks! Me too! He's great!
Love the thought process behind this
Thanks, Robin! Good stuff from Sam! Always easy to implement!
Thanks Eric for bringing on Sam. Love the swing and it reminds me of Zack Johnson's swing.
Our pleasure, Ray! Yeah thats a good simple model! Sam is great!
Love the simple approach
Me too!
Hey Eric, great lesson again! I can achieve a great impact on video with this drill but lose it somewhat in full swing with a ball. Does this work faster in your experience than doing full swings at 10,20,30..100% speed ? Great bag I'm very tempted! 😊
Thanks! Either way works.
I really like making FULL swings at slow speed as well.....can do both!
another top video Eric. I'm going to put a sharpie mark on the 3rd/4th groove to act as reminder for ball/face setting!
Thanks, Nigel! Love that!
@@CogornoGolf just got back from hitting balls, and I've just 'smashed them' thanks. ruined my yardages now! ha ha
Good problem :)
hi eric...do you see any negatives to the square to square swing? I ask because of 2 things. one, you said if you are 85 or more on score, then this is non-negotiable. it will help you strike the ball better, which I believe 100 percent. but what about a player who is around 80? would this swing cost someone a little distance and such
second..pro players I believe do not use this swing, unless I am mistaken. is there something about it that they dont like? again, I'm thinking it might cost a little bit of distance, but I'm not sure.
thanks again for all the great videos!
Hey Jason!
Thanks for the kind words. Your best bet is to find a good coach to work with.....as I can't see your swing I can't say whether YOU should add elements of this or not.
You want to identify your top 1-3 priorities to improve based on your goals. Then put a specific plan in place with sufficient video/training aid feedback.
Rinse and repeat. Square to square elements or not.
If you're uncertain what YOU should do I can help develop that plan for you at www.cogornogolf.com if I can see your swing!
Sam is an awesome guy. Been following him for years
He's the best. Great coach and a great guy off the course as well.
Eric Cogorno Golf check out my sons video.
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Eric can you comment on the swing/release differences between this and the Throw release video you did with Roman?
Hey Chris!
For sure! What specifically would you like to know?
Great video Eric. Quick question. Is there any concern that using this backswing will bring the club too inside too quickly leading to the shaft being too shallow? Thanks.
Yup! Have to keep an eye on it!
Hi Eric, you did a great video with Mike Malaska about keeping the clubface square throughout the swing and reducing forearm rotation - is this a similar concept?
Hey Patrick---yep
Hey Eric did you get a bag from Sam? If so truthfully how do you like it and does everything work like described? I just got in contact with him and he seems like an honest guy with his bag idea and the concept is unique. Kind of pricey but very good concept on his part.
Yes I did.
And I paid for it myself....which I think speaks for itself how much I like.
It works exactly as described...I love it!
If you dont mind spending money on a golf bag I would 100% recommend it....far and away the best I have personally ever had.
Eric liked this video. Is this for short irons only? If not can it work for woods, hybrids, and longer irons?
Thanks, John! Def fine for longer clubs....adjust ball position and tilt as clubs get longer
ruclips.net/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/lnJ3S7eU0sw/видео.html
Check out Sams channel for more on how he coaches with longer clubs
Interesting. I used set up like this but then I had various instructors over the years tell me it wasn't the thing to do. My question though would be about weight shift. With this swing, do you start with most of the weight on the left side (impact position) and keep it there throughout the swing or do you shift onto the right side until the top of the backswing, then shift back to the left?
I would say start centered, stay pretty centered on way back and more slightly toward target on the way through with you MASS...
Shifting pressure in your feet is different...of course there will be pressure in your feet. to the right and back to the left.
Really enjoyed this one, Eric! Thanks to both! Great feel drill.
Thanks, Scott! Sam is great!
great video thanks! one question: you are de-lofting the club ( 9 iron?) to a certain degree, would you do that also with 6 or 5 iron?
Thanks! Yes...deloft all shots off the ground.
Excellent vid as usual.. I cant believe i shitted around for so many yrs before i took a "real lesson" last with Eric. Luckily i wasn't THAT jacked up or unfixable lol.. had my best yr of scoring and was off to my best spring to date. Till the c19 shut us down . Still workin the drill and added some speed training. Hopefully ill see even par 1 time !!!
Thanks man! Hope all is well...keep it going! Glad to hear you're heading in the right direction!
Great video, what Abt driver and woods how would it work with them.
Hey Paul! Thanks!
You can search "Sam Goulden Golf" and watch some of his videos on that topic👊
Great video....I like the idea of square to square and setting up the proper impact position at address. One question though - do the wrists ever hinge? It appears that your wrists were pretty locked in and rigid throughout the swing. If they don't hinge, aren't you losing some power/distance?
Hey Robert!
They can hinge....don't have to. If you head over to Sam's channel @ Sam Goulden Golf you can see more of his thoughts on this. He doesn't have much hinge and hits it plenty far....because of the other variables (lower dynamic loft/rotation, etc)
Adding hinge can add speed/distance-yes.
Eric Cogorno Golf Thanks for the quick reply Eric! I hit some balls at the range just now trying the S2S approach and was very pleased with the results. I had good distance (better than my old swing when I hit the sweet spot) and didn’t feel like I was manipulating the club nearly as much. How does this fit with the closed coil you show in the senior master class? It seems compatible with what I’ve seen in the course so far.
Glad to hear that, Robert! Yeah...basically same stuff. Closed Coil is all about getting enough backswing turn and depth....so you can come from inside on the way down....thats the same stuff as this just more emphasis on backswing turn and adding pieces to add that for people as they get older.
Hope that helps.
@@CogornoGolf Thanks much my friend!
I get this for all your wedges and irons, great drill for that however what does he do for your hybrids, and woods?
Hey Peter!
A lot of the same principles....some setup adjustments with ball position and tilt will help.
Check out his channel @samgouldengolf to see more on that
Eric Cogorno Golf thanks Eric for reply - I’ll go and check Sams site for more insight on his thoughts on how hit hybrids and woods
This feels Stricker like which we know works!
Thanks Gents!
:) Appreciate ya watching!
Wow, This is my current swing that I have to fix. I have to meet him to complete my swing~!!
Thanks! Sam is great!
Eric, love your videos. Came across this one with Sam a few months ago and really like the Square to Square method. My question is, he Sam still teaching? I haven't seen any new videos from him in over a year? Just wondering if he's still teaching this method. Thanks for your efforts. Great videos!
Thanks, Bob!
Yes I believe so! Here is the link to his site: samgouldengolf.club
@@CogornoGolf Thank you. Stay well.
Great video.
I still remember when Sam did the golf tournament camping tour of America. 😁
Lol love it! Me too :)
Hey eric great video I tried this today and hit it much more solid but I lost 20 yards vs my normal swing any idea why is it normal to lose that much power making this change?
Hey Eric!
Nope-would need to see your swing to say.
Only if the swing length was much shorter than normal then you speed would be lower.
Eric. Loved this one, but you and Adam bazelgaete appeared together promoting pushing down on the handle on the backswing which I've been doing and gained distance. However, once in awhile i seem to lose control. Can you talk about pushing down on the grip on the backswing?
Hey Bill!
Sure...
You don't ever hear me talking about pushing down on the handle in any of the videos I have ever done on my own.
You would only want to feel that IF you need more hinge during the backswing
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@@CogornoGolf yes, that's what adam was advocating(either down or back with the left hand) and i thought you were buying it. No? Anyway, i have been doing it and gaining more distance. What do yo think? This was a video several weeks ago with you and adam bazegett. Not sure im spelling his name correctly.
Hey Bill!
Yes...good if you need more hinge.
Bad if you always have too much hinge!
Can't say yes or no across the board for everyone....depends on what you are currently doing.
Pretty cool. Seems like you need a pretty strong grip for this to work...is that true? What about pitches...seems like starting with that forward lean might cause you to dig the leading edge.
Dont need strong grip....could go weaker and flex lead wrist more. Although I prefer neutral to stronger grip to make things easier.
I wouldn't do this with pitching when looking to use the bounce....if looking to hit lower trajectory wedge shots its fine.
Search my name and "chipping/wedges/pitching" and you will see all about that
I never practice anymore love to play but this great before a round. Thanks great vid
Our pleasure my friend!
Great idea, square-to-square (S2S)! And if we also used S2S in a genuine single plane swing (SPS)...BAM! And then if S2S and SPS were employed while using single-length clubs...triple BAM, move over Bryson! This S2S is a great idea for simplifying the swing and playing better golf. Bryson already uses a single-plane swing and single-length clubs; imagine how deadly he would be if he included a square-to-square clubface in his single-plane swing!
Awesome! Easy principles to implement!
Great video. I notice Sam uses a fairly strong left hand grip. I've always used a weaker left hand (1.5 knuckles) and kept it flat to slightly bowed and it gets the club face in about the same position as demonstrated here. Is it OK to use a weaker grip as long as you keep it close to an impact position in the backswing?
100% fine....just have to match the wrist angles and shoulder/arm rotation to it as you mentioned
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@@CogornoGolf Thanks for taking time to respond and attach these videos. The best explanation of grip and release I've ever seen. I'm a 5 HC and basically figured out how to play with a weak grip by years of trial and error. Wish I'd seen this 15 years ago. Appreciate all you do. Best golf instructor on RUclips.
My pleasure man. Hope it helps and hope all is well!
What adjustment do you make when you start pulling the ball? The ball is starting left of target and moving left. Thanks.
Hey Sean!
Unfortunately it could be several things...literally can think of 8-10 possibilities off top of my head.
I would have to SEE your swing to say for sure WHY its happening to say HOW to fix.
Check out www.cogornogolf.com so you can send me a video and I can help if you dont get it sorted.
I would look at release pattern and body pivot first.....along with making sure setup basics are in place (grip, ball position, etc)
Could be something SMALL or BIG.
Hey There! Loving the videos. Would you say this release is similar to Mike’s release in your previous video?
Thanks, Kirk! Yup!
This is exactly how I was taught by Clive Tucker an ex-pro who played with most of the well-known European pros and who'd done 5 Opens in his career - so he knows his stuff!! Before doing anything he would say - this swing needs to be working - no point in going further back in the backswing or more distance until this is completely sublimated and correct.
Love it!
@@CogornoGolf So some more like this please? The part my coach did next was - that the turn I did just with the arms and reacting with the body - becomes the shoulders that are turned with the hips turning. So this move goes to the hip turn pulling the shoulders left - that then drags the arms into the ball and through.
Is this the Leslie King (Knightsbrige Golf UK) method I read about years ago with regard to Julie Inkster?
Hey Michael! Not sure, I'm not familiar!
All the best.
That bag is real nice
So dope! I got one myself!
@@CogornoGolf i looked it up and have my eyes on the white 1!
Thats what I got....I love it
Another good one Eric. Really like the videos you've been doing adding guests. Your delivery and explanation has always been damn good but you do a great job of summing up their concepts too. When are you coming to SE Texas? Haha
Thanks, Bryan! Appreciate it!
We were in Austin and El Paso on our way out to the west coast probably end of January/ beginning of February time frame.
Austin was awesome! Maybe be back something soon!
@@CogornoGolf head down to Houston!
Eric, are you heading out to the west coast now with all the covid19 or next Jan/Feb???...I was wondering if you'll go just north of LA to Westlake GC and make a cool video with golf teacher George Gankas. That would be epic, you two guys hanging out!! But I know the timing is terrible now. Cool bag too. Great video with Sam, almost a little Sean Foley style w/some weight on the left side. Sam kinda reminds me of the English pro golfer Robert Rock w/no hat, his hair, lol.
Hey! We did go to LA after Phoenix....but this was from Feb-March time frame before things got how they are now..
Had scheduled a day with GG but ran into logistical issues....hopefully we get together next time around!
Thanks Eric, I see now, I missed where you said you were in El Segundo. Yeah, you just missed him. Cool, can't wait...it's a must do!!
Eric have watched Sam’s videos seems to really simplify the swing. The follow through reminded me a lot of your video with Ben Pellicani. Am I seeing that correctly? To hit a fade just adjust your setup?
Yes!
For fade-yes thats one option. Several ways to hit fade from there...setup is one, swing direction another, release pattern adjustments, etc.
The 3 videos of Ben, Sam and Mike are real game changers as far as center contact with lag. Thanks again for the different stops and instruction!
Eric do you have a how to hit the power fade video?
Yup....
ruclips.net/video/poshAO76bcI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/FFLyD5-JbF4/видео.html
Is leaning the shaft forward at setup something for drills and warming-up, or do you recommend that as a stock setup for playing as well?
Both!
I like the hands inside the left thigh as stock position with neutral ball flight...
I talk more about that here: ruclips.net/video/8TjvCHCAQ0c/видео.html
Are there any tour pros out there who resemble this style? I'd like to see some full swings. Sam's finish looks a lot like Tommy Fleetwood. I did this in my garage setup and my finish looks a lot like Fleetwood as well. My name is also Tom. Hmm. I just subbed to Sam's channel and am binging this weekend.
Awesome! For sure lots of players who resemble parts of this....you should learn a lot from Sam's channel....he's great!
Steve Stricker is where Sam got the inspiration
Great content, Eric! How does the square to square swing method work with hybrids and a driver? You wouldn't lean the shaft forward obviously. Thanks in advance for your reply.
Hey Rob! You can search "Sam Goulden Golf" and watch some of his videos on that topic!
I would say the ball position being more forward neutralizes the shaft lean by itself so hands will be in more or less the same spot.
said differently....I would put the hands inside left thigh for ALL clubs and then just adjust ball position, stance width and tilt.
@@CogornoGolf Thank you Eric
Great video - is this golf bag available now, if so, where?
Thanks, Gary! Yes check out mnmlgolf.com
From Malaska and the surreal beauty of Superstition Mtn to a post-apocalyptic golf setting in LA! LOL
Dope bag! Did you take a white or black one?
Haha! But the WEATHER in LA....sheesh! Could get used to that.
Bag is AWESOME! I got the white one and I think Mary got the black! Cant wait to use it outside!
Eric Cogorno Golf My daughter lived in LA for 4 yrs during the drought. When she came home to PA for a visit, she really loved how green and moist it was! We all want what we don't have! In the immortal words of Otis Redding, "you don't miss your water till your well runs dry"! Lol
Very true! Grass is always greener for sure :)
I absolutely love this video. I have seen major improvements in my consistency since I began focusing on this method. Eric, any advice on what to do if we maybe overdo it and get the odd pull or pull hook? Is there a thought or feel that will help avoid missing it left while still maintaining the Square to Square concepts? Thanks for your help...you're without question the best instructor on RUclips!
Glad to hear that, Dave!
Yes for sure. While I would have to see your swing to say for sure WHY its happening I would start with release pattern...you can see the feels here....lead elbow more AT target longer and thumb to the right
ruclips.net/video/BlZriUpP7Ns/видео.html
Just tried it in the garage. Grip pressure is is 8 out 10 on set up which tightens up arms, forearms and shoulders. Is this right?
Tight HANDS OK.....looser arms preferred.
Interesting concept would like to work on this when lock down here is over
Hope it helps!
Wowzers that is great stuff!
Thanks, Samuel!
In other words, each club is DESIGNED with a certain amount of forward lean by the manufacturer. So, as long as you place the ball in the correct position AND sole the club correctly...to come back to that position...you're golden. Now, do you keep the ball position constant off the heel and adjust the stance...or...do you adjust the ball position and keep the stance constant. I like the former. Your thoughts??
Either can work.....expert ball strikers have demonstrated both! I prefer to keep the ball position relative constant and change feet width and tilt .
Eric, I enjoyed watching the videos with Sam Goulden, and I am interested in your thoughts about the Square to Square Swing Method as compared to the closed coil technique.
Thanks, William!
Lots of similarities! Prob 90% same things!
First time I have ever seen someone advocating having your hands so far forward. Not sure that's all that great of advice. I will have to try that.
Hope it serves you well
One question, average golfers do not use lower half of body like good golfers. What effect does lining up with hips in square position have on impact position? Quick brag note I warm up exclusively making little punch shots before playing.
Good question John. I haven't had to teach anyone to use their hips properly. The instinctive move to get the handle and club in a proper position usually takes care of it. Get the player in this impact and you don't have to worry about anything else :)
Sam Goulden Golf Sam, my impact position is that of the everyday flipper, largely in part because (my excuse) my hitting game was cricket and not baseball. The more I think of the sport I played most as a child and adult was football (soccer to yanks) the concept of hips and kicking comes as second nature. Because, I try to play golf using natural ability, again my definition; some of the things just don’t click. I’ve watched videos where they say hip rotation and straight line hip movement that makes it looks like rotation. Now you’ve been asked the question what drill is best, skipping stones, kicking a ⚽️ ball? You bag looks like a breakthrough is there room for a cooler caddy shack ref🥳
It's funny that I just tried this and never struck the ball better or more solid! Unreal.
Love it!
Is this similar to what the DST Compressor Club promotes ?
Some similarities!
I dont understand tho, if you maintain that angle won't you go across the line at the top? Right? Cause if you keep going back back back and not rotation of the club face how does it lay off/get on plane on top? Or, does this method not require you to go above chest high?
I'm sure I'm missing something, thud is great for a nice reliable stock shot i wanna start going to this more, but I feel way across the line at the top if I turn back too much
Hey!
" I dont understand tho, if you maintain that angle won't you go across the line at the top?
-Nope...not if you dont swing too long...notice hands staying shorter with this.
"Cause if you keep going back back back and not rotation of the club face how does it lay off/get on plane on top? Or, does this method not require you to go above chest high?"
-Thats correct-shorter more compact swing length. If you swing too long will go across line-yes.
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I dont understand tho, if you maintain that angle won't you go across the line at the top? Right? Cause if you keep going back back back and not rotation of the club face how does it lay off/get on plane on top? Or, does this method not require you to go above chest high?
"I'm sure I'm missing something, thud is great for a nice reliable stock shot i wanna start going to this more, but I feel way across the line at the top if I turn back too much"
-Thats exactly correct. You are not confused here-you are explaining it perfectly :) "IF I turn back too much"
Just shorten up the swing length with this-thats all :)
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@@CogornoGolf awesome Eric thank you so much for replying thats all I needed to hear...I get the same (actually probably more distance) with this method, lower ball flight, with a shorter swing (assuming cause the face is really delofted), but the compression is freaking sweet and damn if it doesn't go straight...now I hit these types of square to square punchy shots unless I need to go over something its very reliable and repeatable...thanks again for clarifying, shorter swing, too much=across the line...
Good video!👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you!
Is there any reason you do this on an up slope or is it just visually like that
I think it's just visually an upslope. It's not meant to be.
ccmorgan53 it’s got to be uphill. No bricklayer would lay a block wall that aren’t level.
Yeah not on purpose....just how its designed....there is another hitting area below this on the range....could be why
@@TIMSANDYSURF Spoken like a true tradesman.
I have a huge problem on keeping my weight centered on the backswing. When I swing back I come off my center. How do I fix this? What drills are out there? Until I do this I will never accomplish the square to square method
Here ya go my friend:
ruclips.net/video/YquRd9mVUzY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/mksbOP0RSBw/видео.html
Would the pros not be taking 4° more dynamic loft of than amatuers because they swing faster. An amatuer dynamic loft on a tour pro swing speed would cause their ball to balloon rather than an optimal ball flight.
Less speed needs more loft for sure
Dope vid! Dope bag!
Thank you! Bag is awesome....got one for myself!
Is 'Dope' good or bad?
@@nigel4321 Dope is good! figuratively -not literally! ...however some may disagree. :D
@@Chris_Traynor Cheers for that, not a term I've come across over here! (UK). To be a Dope here is to be stupid as in Dopey in the Seven Dwarfs!
Nigel Edwards I’m in the uk too. Think it depends on which social circles one hangs around in during one’s formative years, and what music you listen too. 😉
Can you hit fades like this if you are someone who likes to hit fades but naturally hits a draw ?
For sure
You definitely can and it’s actually optimal with the longer clubs.
fantastic video !!! ... and same for the malaska ones ... great , entertaining and useful ... !!!
Thank you!!
@@CogornoGolf... no mate ... we thank you ! ... although most of us would probably love if you could find an elegant way to conclude the lesson ... you know , tell us what you liked and what not , what would in your opinion help a certain player and what another , who's teachings you'd consider better and why ... I know that's a lot like walking the high wire ... :):):) ... but should you find a way to ... sort of rate the various methods or kinda recommend one teacher over another for a certain kind of player ... you know , based on skill or age or type ... you know we do value your opinion ... :):):)
Anyway , great job ... and can't wait for your next guest ... maybe jim venetos ... ???
:)
cheers and Happy Easter !
Thanks for the feedback! I would love to add more.....but we also get a lot of feedback that the videos are way too long as is....
Can't please everyone :) hopefully we find a happy medium for everyone!
I have a practice net at home and just tried this. Um, wow. I kinda feel a little like this is cheating??!! I can do it with wedge right on up to 3 wood. Have not tried the driver yet...would this apply to that to? Sure hope I can do this for real on the course :D Thanks for this!
Hope it continues to help, Linda!
yup-you can with driver...head over to Sam's channel @samgouldengolf to see his videos on driver!