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Yu-Gi-Oh! Rulings are Different in Japan
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2022
- While the TCG rulings have mostly become the same as those in Japan, the OCG still has different rulings, that come up more often than not.
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"be it the release date for sex...."
I swear I heard that too the first watch
I heard it to
Glad I'm not the only one
Because of censorship we don't get sex in the west.
Is it wrong?
Rip Kazuki Takahashi, it is really weird how the TCG and ocg generally don't communicate, considering it's the same game
Same goes for pokemon though like the people who watches the anime, people who play the games,those who play the card game mostly never communicate
@@navanithkrishnan7177 this is irrelevant
@@navanithkrishnan7177 thats just completely different, thats just different platform.
@@navanithkrishnan7177 irrelevant but Pokemon tcg is the same in all countries. There is no major difference except for releasing of sets
You can't really say they don't communicate.
Rather, there are sometimes just some small issues due to translation.
For instance "attack" v "original attack"
and the fact that they are translating thousands of cards and sometimes, mistakes can happen...
You have to remember that humans can make mistakes even for English card games, much less a Japanese card game being translated into English...
That rulings thing for the ocg is actually crazy. I never even would have thought of something like that.
You mean the ruling from the tcg is crazy as we are the secondary group, not the first.
@@chaos_charmer no, because I don’t play ocg. My experience is with the tcg. My experience tells me that it was crazy. This little pedantic game you’re trying to play doesn’t work.
@TheBossManBoss319 cool, the way you started or most started is honestly irrelevant to the actual conversation.
The way the Oct plays is the correct variant and we should all follow suit
@@chaos_charmer The fuck do you mean irrelevant? I was literally stating my reaction and thought process. My comment wasn’t about anything else.
You’re the one going off on irrelevant shit, because I never mentioned we should or shouldn’t follow the ocg. It was purely my reaction.
@@chaos_charmerhahahahahaha
That "if" and "while" ruling on Instant Contact!!!
The OCG and TCG should have the same rules. I am against the fact that this is a thing.
Another difference is the age range. In Japan the OCG is for ages 12 and up. In fact all packs and decks say “対象年齢12才以上”
(Translation: “Target age 12 years and older”)
Which implies it’s for early to late teen players. Which is accurate since the Yugioh mainstream series is a Shonen, which is a demographic of manga and anime that mainly target early to late teen boys between 12 and 18 years old.
Understand this is only for the OCG not Rush Duels.
So then how does ash even work in the ocg? She just never gets her effect bc everything she could negate becomes public knowledge before she is even able to activate?
What he means is that in the ocg you can’t chain block with cards from your hand like in the tcg.
In the ocg: Open game state-> you normal summon tour guid-> activate her effect (cl1) -> priority is passed to opponent - and he chains ash as cl2 (or any card the can be activated), priority is passed back to you and you chain the kagemucha knight cl3.
Chain resolved with knight special summoned, ash negating the effect, and tour effect being negated.
In tcg: open game state: you normal summon tour guide and activate her effect (cl1), than chain kagumcha knight to it (cl2)-> priority is passed to your opponent. but he can’t chain ash to it.
Same with koaki supplier (special summoned from hand when Rock is sent from field to GY:
Link summon halq with adamancipator tuner and any other monster:
In tcg halq effect is cl1 and supplier effect from hand is cl2, you can’t ash halq.
In ocg: halq effect cl1, priority is passed to your opponent and he ash (cl2), priority is passed back and you can special supplier from hand.
@@rpgrullz Thanks that makes a lot more sense. What about effects that meet their trigger simultaneously, like if you use wyverburster with a tuner to make halq? Could you still chain block the summon with the search?
@@4c3fr3h1y
Yes, that classic chain blocking, which works the same in both tcg/ocg.
Wyvernbuster blocking halq as they trigger in the same tim, as you are the one who chooses the order of activation.
Wait it isn’t highest current atk? Do I have a pre-errata gandora-X? Cause mine says exactly that and I never thought twice about it.
and the best part of this (or worst for the TCG) is that the rulings of cards is documented and easily accessible to the OCG people via the official Japanese Database.
So Ghost mourner will negate opponent's on-summon effects even during your own turn because it will always trigger as chain 2. Crazy
Still the only game where the cards are ruled differently not only based on region but weekend
Wait hold on, are you saying that public and private information triggers can be activated in any order in the TCG? Is that really accurate?
As long as they have the same speed and priority (mandatory/optional), yes. Then you can activate a quick effect after these.
In the OCG the quick effect of the private Ash Blossom has higher priority than the (for example) private Kagemucha Knight, meaning you can't chain block Tour Guide with Kag.
Yup you can go CL1 noctovision dragon CL2 striker dragon if u want, they’re both treated as trigger effects in tcg
"Cards that are publicly known"
I don't know man, everybody knows ash.
I really misunderstood that.
Love that you used tour guide in that situation ❤
Magic releases worldwide, I really will never understand why Yu-gi-oh! Doesn't.
I dont see much Magic player in Asia tbh
Speaking about ruling I had buster dragon in the field and my opponent activated zombie world and all my monsters became zombies and he's monsters didn't turn in to dragon why?
Some of the most relevant differences would be chain blocking being different and monsters that cause no battle damage to either player having immunity to battle destruction .
What's that second part?
why doesn‘t the kagemucha knight chain block work? Ash blossom isn‘t a public known card dir both players and tour guide aswell ae kagemucha knight are a trigger
Cuz some judge probably ruled it having to ask for a response and a pass in priority from the opponent for tour guide effect
Ngl master duel having ocg rulings makes my life easier
They do? Wow
@@JasonAizatoZemeckis Far as I can tell with my play of it, Master Duel uses the TCG priority rules.
@@ab14967 It’s actually inspired by the OCG rulings but has some minor changes like for example Halq being banned in the OCG but not in Master Duel.
They use the tcg ruling
This looks looks like folks are discussing the hybrid banlist. That's different from card rulings itself. This video is talking about how some cards have different effects in different prints and how some fundamental rules operate differently.
He looks like Aldi brand Daniel Radcliffe
💀
shouldn‘t kagemucha knight miss his timing in the oct because he says when
and the last thing happening is not tour guides normal summon but ash blossom
or does it stupid enough still work becuase it‘s in the moment if the normal summon game state or sone shit lol
You can still chain and works, these trigger effect acts like a spell speed 2 in that chain, meaning for example：
a after a trap is activated, you chain 1 the special summon monster (by the trap)’s effect, chain 2 your traptrix link1’s effect, chain 3 your opponent’s trigger effect (m8 his traptrix link1), then your opponent chain 4 effect veiler, you called by his veiler in chain 5, your opponent max C in chain 6, you then call Muitifaker in chain 7, because it is still the timing of if you activate a trap card, although it already across a chain 7 with called by as a quick play, it is still a legal play
I kinda like that TCG and OCG has difference in rullings. Makes the game more interesting
I’m so annoyed wonder drivers effect is so bad in the TCG. It’s quite good in the OCG.
The hero card because it's effect is still pretty good in the TCG.
@@Tomy_Lightning its quite bad compared to the OCG.
Can we have more examples?
... or crazy thought we as the tcg players use the ocg rulings and shift our meta properly
Rampart blaster has a completely different effect in the OCG and toon Gemini elf went from an if effect to a when effect. Which I mean, y? The card isn't good either way lol
What do u mean by publicly known?
cards that are face-up on the field, in the graveyard, face-up in the extra deck, face-up banished or is being reveald by a card effect
my question which rules apply in the world championship, because tcg and ocg players play together
I think a mixed rule set and banlist.
Man do I hate segoc rules
Like you can't chain block with xceed
Can someone recommend me same good machine type monsters for my deck that would be very helpful for me to start playing competitive yu gi oh
jimjo
Start playing on an yugioh simulator like duel nexus build a deck you want check their prices and if they're too expensive and there are too many expensive cards look fir cards that could replace them figure out if you could get off with 1 or 2 copies of the card buy the least expensive copies when building and if you somehow got your hands on an expensive card and you know you could get a cheaper copy sell the expensive one and buy the cheap one so you can complete your deck using as little money as necessary as you'll most likely needed in the future when they release a card that would make your deck better and for obtaining physical copies of cards I would recommend tcgplayer.
This comes off as entirely unnecessary to make trivial differences between the OCG and TCG. Also how does OCG not stand for Online Trading Cardegame?
There should’ve be OCG and tcg anymore. Just need to be synced up.
I prefer the OCG because I never have to deal with Halq or Dragoon cause they decided to ban the problem instead of the cards use to summon it.
Note: The second part of my comment is referring to Halq not Dragoon.
Yeah Verte would still be a problem even without dragoon and dpe because of the three neos fusion rainbow having one of the best removal effects and brave and knight having a good secondary material with lvl 4 or lower effect monster for brave and any warrior monster for knight.
Yeah but the OCG banned Verte as well so it’s still not a problem.
@@BahamutthePromisedEnd yeah I was talking about how even without the two monsters that were considered the best targets for Verte it would still be a problem just because of how good the effects or the material options for other monsters you could bring out with Verte were sure rainbow neos isn't as powerful as dpe or Dragoon but it doesn't target or destroyed and the other two neos fusions have good material options like malicious or any level 4 or lower monster with a good Gy effect.
One word and a letter to make your comment invalid:
Maxx C
@@Alex-Omega Maxx C can be taken advantage of if your smart but once halq and dragoon get on the board it’s practically game over.
Dem eyes tho
RIP
Publicly known what??
What is tcg and ocg
TCG is like the americas and Europe and OCG is like Japan and Korea. OCG is always like 6 months ahead bc yugioh started over there and got imported
TCG = Trading Card Game
OCG = Original Card Game
Didnt know 👀😶
Card popularity get priority is fucking Wild. Bros gunna summon blue eyes get negated but the negate doesn't go off purely cause everyone and their mom knows blue eyes like TF?
I dont think thats what that meant, i think it means what on the board is known more, if an effect of a face up moster is triggering or in the graveyard it would have priority over anything you were activating from your hand
@@alexiswigginton452 though I'm over exaggerating and you explanation might be right, imma assume its purely popularity cause its funnier making ocg simultaneously the least/most toxic game ever
@@gudamgirexia1000 yeah thats fair, anime boss monsters getting priority over everything
Comparing OCG and TCG Ghost Mourner: "Look how they massacred my girl."
In the ocg mourner will always trigger as chain 2 so it can negate even during your own turn am I right?
@@franciscoriveros8586 Close, Mourner is a Quick Effect in the OCG, not a trigger effect like we have in the TCG, so it can be used at any point in the chain when a monster is Summoned.
Why though? Why do they change it? What’s the point??
For Gandora, it's understandable. The effect can mean between a potential FTK deck or just a standard, run of the mill normal deck. Without the wording "Original ATK", that means you can use the ATK as it is currently. Let's say you bump a monster that had 2000 ATK to 3000 ATK, the effect will take into consideration the ATK that's currently on the Monster which is 3000. If with the wording "Original ATK", even if you bump the 2000 ATK monster to 3000 ATK, the effect will only consider the 2000 ATK which is the original ATK.
They didnt change rules, ocg is the original
@@ducktail4068 Then the question is "why did the TCG change it" obviously.
So confusing
Think the mic could fill more of the screen?
Reason for release dates, is so the shitty western yugioh can fuck over us
The more I learn about Yugioh, the more I hate it.
Then why you play or associate with it?
bro blink more please
I have watched 3 times this video and it makes absolutely no sense to me. TCG has different rulings because judges rule the cards on the TCG events as they please, but OCG has the actual rules as they are the freaking creators of the game. Different effects often comes from mistranslations as well.
I think they should just fold one of the 2 into the other but because Konami's greedy af they'll keep the 2 seperate and introduce rush duels and cross duels just so they can sell 4 times the cards
One thing i noticed is that The Egyptian Gods are a better in the TCG then they are in the OCG because tgey currently have more support and are a bit more viable
Yugioh players finally having secks
No reason for the rulings to be different if its the same game. Ocg is right
Wuuuut thats so wierd lol
Bro, Kazuki Takahashi has passed away.
RIP
and how does that relate to the video?
Tl;dr: Konami is stupid
I’ve been saying this for the longest. There’s an idiot youtuber who talks Pokémon OCG and tittles the video TCG and calls it all tcg never using the wordOCG. If you’re going to talk about / put something from the Asia region on screen call it what it is. OCG!
it's really not that serious, take it easy
There is no difference in Pokémon when it comes to tcg vs ocg, that difference (afaik) only exists in yugioh so its totally fine to say "pokemon tcg", after all, tcg stands for "trading card game", which the pokemon tcg is
ygo is the only card game that has an ocg lmao the pokemon tcg is the same in Japan and any other place, it’s just that Japan gets sets earlier
@@UnuUO ohhh okay so I am an ass
To explain further
OCG is a Konami coined term that means official card game
The common used terms are tcg, ccg and lcg
That makes no fucking sense. I smell cap.
Lesser known? Does this mean somebody who plays weird crap is at a disadvantage? Only japanese could come up with such bad und stupid rulings.
Are you... are you being daft on purpose...?
This guy posted this after he died. Wanting clicks without acknowledge the Pegasus of the Card of World called Earth.
You ever considered this was a scheduled video that was lined to be automatically posted before even his death was announced?
And why does that matter?