Why This Insanely Toxic Card Was EMERGENCY Banned
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Kaiba used Cyber-Stein on me in Stairway to the Destined Duel so much that it taught me to use it on others. I even used it in retaliation against him, killing him with his own boss monster. So satisfying back then.
Change of heart for cheap victory. It's so hilarious. That was my first duel against him actually.
My personal favourite was popping magic cylinder. Easiest 2 turn KO
I was one of those kids going to locals and being told my deck wasn't legal. Only 4 people played that day
that is kinda funny.
Hope they had fun with no customers, I hated bsn lists it's a excuse for weak decks ta play
Wow nice turn out
@@BabySniffdo you seriously want the game to be ftks/otks every duel?
ur local what...? Tournament? Kinda shitty for the people building legal decks to be stomped by people who didnt care to follow the rules.
You should do a history lesson on 2004 Chaos. Let the new kids know how destructive the first truly broken deck was in its day
Chaos emperor dragon eff, sangen eff, summon yata and attack, *offers handshake*
thats a grate idea :0
@@wardy4903 if lucky summon BLS on top
Yata game?
@@wardy4903Nope. Play it out. Go turn by turn, force them to get you down 200 LP at a time to 1900lp before they summon a 4 star.
I always made them work for it.
No shout out to Megamorph??? That was the OG support for BEUD via Stein, after Trunade for a quick 9000 ATK
In the games, yeah. But in the physical card game, the TCG got Cyber End Dragon and Cyber Twin Dragon first. And pretty sure Megamorph was Limited at that time. Same with Limiter Removal but the Cyber Dragon fusions have compatibility with Limiter Removal so it's more consistent than the BEUD version.
Cyber Stein was an OCG 1999 card :)
Also OCG had way more consistency then the TCG at that time
As much as I love Cyber-Stein as card, it's best he stays banned. Now, I would love for a retrain of Cyber-Stein with a Ready Fusion-styled effect to be released, but that probably won't happen. Call it something like Magical Cyber-Steintist.
Or just slap a magical scientist once or a turn 😂
No, too many cards banned makes people the problem if your scared to lose then don't deserve to win. Learn how to counter cards. I have no more sympathy to crying for banned cards, maybe 20 merit it, not over 100. I have lost to banned cards before banned so what, is it this life and death? The goal is to win, as well make your opponent not be able to play, your going to do it to me if can, then you get to cry if I do it first then demand banned cards? Do it to me first and guess what, let's duel again, it might go different next time. It's fun playing, sometimes you win sometimes you lose, just that simple.
@@redranger8107 "Countering" cards means floodgates and negates taking up all the space in the deck. There's no customization and no point in playing if you can't play and win how you want.
@@clarkside4493 I don't want to play a quitter, a Whiner Who can't take loss. Just with in the last hour let a buddy use my Hero Deck not as good as his showed him what needed had being added, fixed it, testing my Krawler deck (The 1 deck would play 3 Max C (most decks doubt would) due to earth insect; even if had 3 not 1 showed up anyway) which I was about to lose the duel too. All he had to do was atk me by battle; but the card added got excited to pop my Kralwer could special 2 Krawlers from the deck in face down. Then he hit the negate effects one when flipped up lost his atk to get over, atked the other special the one my hand face-down. I flip up Recptor had in hand lost 1st one popped while face down, bring new Soma to my hand use it's effects bring out boss link; top deck my field spell that he cut it lucky me, I had 4 Krawlers with boss link, he can't use effects in battle phase clear over his board. He had no hand left then draws Ash Blossom going to do no good at this point. I don't need to add anything as I have 6 Kralwers from normal summon alone my boss link allows direct atk for 17,300 direct damage with all boosts had. I should have lost willing to lose, but sometimes human error makes a stupid mistake we all do, and well from about to lose to a win can't stop on me. I don't run those main cards in the Krawler no Ash, no meta like that. See I do want to play how I want, I want various kinds of decks, some might have some meta thrown in some don't, some have banned cards some don't (He overcome Kaiser Collemseum once I lost, another Mirage Nightmare in my Dark World tempted to take out when almost cost me used a dark world monster to pop it too won after gone). Kralwers was my cheapest deck, maybe $25 with the boss links 3 at a $1 and think 2 or 3 other cards were a $1 maybe Soma (50 cents maybe each not sure needs 3?) don't recall anymore, it was cheap but it made nothing into 6 on the field to win a game a day no mistake made I lose. I would have been fine losing I'd have said let's play again.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Scientist OTK, Cyberstein OTK, Yata lock, Chaos Yata lock, warrior control... degenerate combos and deck builds have always been part of the meta. I've heard the expression mostly in reference to D&D, but it holds true in any gaming environment: "Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of the game"
Honestly im surprised Konami has guts to unbanned him during master rule 4 then banned him a second time when shs was a thing hopefully they learn there lesson on not bringing him back again
Probably wanted to make Fusions more playable as, you know, Extra Deck monsters were only able to be summoned (Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, etc. Summoned) into Extra Monster Zones or zones Link Monsters pointed to in Master Rule 4.
@@ShiningJudgment666 well yes that true but you card that cheat out a monster from extra deck is too broken and asking for abuse. Again hopefully they learn there lesson by never taking cyber stein off the banned list ever again
That Runescape music tho
Anyone else here cleared the entire gba game by running cyber stein ultimate blue eyes white dragon and megamorph combo?
This card won me a big tournament back in 2006❤
For a time, cyber franken was the best way to use B.E.S.D. at the cost of B.E.S.D. having 3300/2500 points but keeping its negate. You were probably better off more easily summoning the terrible R.E.D.D. as that was far quicker for at least the same 300 attack increase and nothing else.
I remember this card. The best play to counter it was Ring of Destruction or magic cylinder. So mamy 2 turn victory's against Seto cause of that 5000 lp loss to bring out his 4500 beat stick.
I deal more damage with "Ben Kei" and "Hayabusa Knight"
My brother sold his Cyber Stein SJC prize card for 5k on ebay back in the day
that was a lot of money back then and still is tbh :0
Should’ve waited, now worth 5x more
Hopefully he then proceeded to buy Bitcoin with the proceeds in early 2011.
As someone who was playing back then: Initially cyber stein wasn't played at all
Simply, people were making experiments in their chaos return decks, mostly in europe, including last will n cyber stein. And it was working. And after that, people were just making a deck exclusively for cyber stein.
dude i loved cyber stein, it was the center piece of my aroma heal deck
Tried using this card in Power of Chaos, insta summoned Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon, only to find out the opponent used a magical cylinder and I lost
There are some really good video essays on this and it would’ve been nice to cite them.
good idea!! mostly got my info from metagame.com archives and pojo didnt think about looking on you tube 😯
I still remember my opponent in locals that uses this in GOAT format to summon The Last Warrior from Another Planet and locks me in XDDDD.
XD
Then combining tht with trap cards tht trigger when u lose certain amount of LP makes it even more OP.
No cyberstien can not come off the ban list, at least not without an errata
We all know Kaiba’s stock deck was OP. I bought one during the time before the price hiked. And was #1 at my high school 😂 ..Still have some of the cards including cyberstein and blue eyes ultimate was stolen but I pulled one from the pack on first try 😊
I wonder how Cyber-Stein would have worked in the anime since Life Points only went up to 4000 there.
This implies anime has standards
Duel Links starts at 4000 LP and it still got banned there
@@williamdrum9899 when did it get banned on duel links? Years ago when Duel Links was still just Og yugioh I was using Cyber Stein in duels. If you used a certain duelist you would start off with 5k hp so it was easy to bring him out.
@@soraroxesventerra I want to say 2019 or so. I might be thinking of That Grass Looks Greener
@@williamdrum9899 I stopped playing duel links probably back in like 2018. I had a troll otk burn deck (bamboo sword build) that I absolutely loved and then they banned it. Felt so bad 😔
No way in hell this can come back again. Too good. Especially with things like Exterio, Dragoon and assuming it dodges a ban, Sanctifire. The only way it could is with an errata with a 10,000 Life Point cost (so you'll actually need to use Life Point gain cards to be able to use its busted as hell effect), a hard once per turn (more as a safeguard) and no way of circumventing the Life Point cost (make it an effect or just make it unaffected by cards that change its type).
Seeing how it was banned in Duel Links where the starting LP is 4000, I don't think even that would be enough
No, too many cards banned makes people the problem if your scared to lose then don't deserve to win. Learn how to counter cards. I have no more sympathy to crying for banned cards, maybe 20 merit it, not over 100. I have lost to banned cards before banned so what, is it this life and death? The goal is to win, as well make your opponent not be able to play, your going to do it to me if can, then you get to cry if I do it first then demand banned cards? Do it to me first and guess what, let's duel again, it might go different next time. It's fun playing, sometimes you win sometimes you lose, just that simple.
@@redranger8107lol so are we just gonna ignore the part where the cards are being designed by people and they "sometimes" make mistakes that makes the game actively worse for everyone. Banning cards is there to fix that. Some cards shouldn't have been made and it's inevitable, especially since card designers want the pack to sell incentivizing them to produce more broken shit every time. It's really naive of you to assume the game is at its best when the players don't get a say in this.
@@philtess3126 Banning cards for that reason is a joke. To solve the problem, ban people who are sore losers, ban people who are cocky winners. That would solve the ban list. It was when they hit Wind Barrier never used the deck that made it like that, I said no longer care about the banned list. I run a deck with all those, 3 of the 4 outside dark and light are in the one not needed is sided. If they are using earth deck side out earth for a wind, if wind use fire, water, earth. If youdon't have a normal summon get over 1,000 atk then deserve to lose. The Card that can bring it out easy,, looks like 1 of 20 would merit a banning (banned card needs to be used all decks, or too strong alone to be broken not broken combos that might not always happen) thus don't need both banned. Red Eyes Dragoon people cried about, last duel brought him out, walked into Super
Polmy what let's ban that too cause I could not use him? I could not keep more than 1 monster on, never could use the crybabies Andacona at all, drew into Red Eyes Fusion, got lucky only to be used for a Fusion monster for my opponent. Dark Magian deck 60 cards got all the luck need to win with cheesy Magical Cyclinders on the defense (let's ban that then it won a duel), Ban list has lost it's mind, gone too far, I tried an very illegal Exdioa Deck won with a Dark World Deck no extra deck too, think 60 cards too 1 banned card yet almost cost me the duel using, and we are this lazy to stop and see the deck it is in before we cry let's ban cards why? I picked Dark World thinking can't win let's try a challenge and test a deck don't play often it stole the win. When will people stop crying over banned cards and start learning mutual respect losing to the same thing you would do if got to do it first?
The problem with Stein is that no reasonable erata exists to nerf it.
It only needs once per turn anyway.
Adding restrictions is not an errata anymore.
It will stay banned until the end of time.
In MD Runick would use this to make the game absolute hell before it was re-banned lol.
Reminder when winning in 10 minute was crazy
Now winning 10 second is normal
Really unique way to say Ramirez at 7:19
@@67Elite ooh 😅😅
made two Tops in a 1000+ player field with the card :-D one of a few cards I still have 20 years later, just for the nostalgia :D
bro are we not gonna talk about cyber stein into sanctifire in superheavy and gimmick puppet link 2 send gimmick puppet knightmare?
I like the draynor manor background music
Unbanning cyber stein was a mistake
I used this card to cheat out BEUD in the GBA WorldWide Edition game all the time 😂
current Yu-Gi-Oh contains somewhat too much text and it is a headache
simpler cards like this were fun, more fun
Don't most cards randomly combo now to beat you in one turn?
Cyber stein is fine limited to 1
It's refreshing to see an old card get some use. Everything else is power crept
This was very good thank you ❤
I play him in World Wide Edition
500 ATK? Check again 👀
nahh free my man cyber stein. He was meant to bring out Musician KIng and Mystical Sand and, and Sanwitch. Not these fucking unknown ass fusion monsters of today
Cyber Stein would need to have a major errata in order for it to have a slim chance of getting unbanned. It's just to degenerate and unfair to unban without a heavily restrictive errata.
@@marcusking332 "pay 8000 lifepoints" 😂
@@Squiddys I was thinking more like saying Cyber Stein could only summon X level fusion or less, while also negating the fusion monsters effects and making Cyber Stein a hard once per turn.
I don't get it... You still have to pay 5000 lp... Not half not 2000,5k... So stupid to banned it. To be honest i was the only player using "Cyber-Stein in Master Duel season 1 the first time it dropped (maybe I got it banned), I mean getting Ultimate Dragon out with no Poly an all three dragons ok but still that card takes effort.
Cyber-End Dragon + Megamorph/Limiter Removal = Game Over.
@@RabblesTheBinx i stopped someone from OTKin me with that Bull .. Please... Neo Blue eyes activate effect with just using Stein...
WAIT WHAT? THIS CARD WAS WORTH HOW MUCH?! Time to track down my cards as I know I had it at some point...
Holy shit I have this card and never knew this what the actual fuck!?
Work on your intro put a bumper. RUclips auto play BS kept cutting off your sentence.
Damn! I wanna meet that scrub with the ulti maxx Cs!
paul hooked me up way back in the day 😆😆😆
Thank you for this lore
Classic information that only og players know. Nowadays yugioh is played by grabbing your deck and throwing it at the other player in a if I hit you first you lose the game kind of affair.
Is that the freaking star fox 64 theme??
this guy nose wassup 🔫🦊
i was gonna say buuuuhhhhooleee shiittt cause i had this card n didnt win any SJ tournies lol, as op said back in the day this card wasnt that crazy bc lack of expanded fusion library, ie cards w trap negate, wipe etc..
Am i hearing an osrs soundtrack in the back??
Yep.
Be lucky they never unbanned Fiber Jar.
I can picture what the tournaments would belike with all the meta decks and doing OTK.
That card made me so mad when I first saw it in a tournament. I'd set up a Legendary Ocean/Tornado Wall thing and I had to pick up the card and read it. I said "You're making this up, right?" It seemed like something they would just make up for the anime so that they could end the episode the way they wanted to. Actually quit tournaments for several months after that.
This is lit
1:10 Is this Runescape music?
Yes! 😂 glad I'm not the only who noticed!
@@lowismylesful it almost sad that I recognized that immediately...
@@lowismylesful also....
Buyin gf
Hes got 700ATK.
“Equivalent to a lot of money”. Wow.
i hope that tey copy the pokemon games where ones in a few year u can use them.
Because he's the GOAT
My ex brother in law have the original cyberstein, damn!! 😅
Best card ever
700atk!!
No, too many cards banned makes people the problem if your scared to lose then don't deserve to win. Learn how to counter cards. I have no more sympathy to crying for banned cards, maybe 20 merit it, not over 100. I have lost to banned cards before banned so what, is it this life and death? The goal is to win, as well make your opponent not be able to play, your going to do it to me if can, then you get to cry if I do it first then demand banned cards? Do it to me first and guess what, let's duel again, it might go different next time. It's fun playing, sometimes you win sometimes you lose, just that simple.
This video was boring
@@WolverineIncognito 😭😭😭
I play him in World Wide Edition
500 ATK? Check again 👀