Hybrids are the best thing to happen to golf clubs. Dumped my 3 wood and currently smashing the ping 425 2 hybrid at 15.5 like a 4 wood. If they made hybrid driver I'd game it.
This is very useful. I have a 17-18 handicap, have played for 59 years, and will be 80 in June. I have played forged blades for many years and just like them. Have had Mizuno MP-33s and MP67s. The ones I have now are classic weak lofts, with my 7-iron being 35.5 degrees. I focus hard on making good contact (always use foot powder on the face at the range). I can carry the 7-iron 130-135 yards, although have been working hard on improving my swing and recently with warmer weather have had best strikes carry 140-42. But I can clearly see the compression in yardage with the longer irons that one faces with age and slower swing speeds, so that there is very little gap between the 3 iron and 4 iron. I figure that I get about 165-170 yards carry with my 4 iron using range balls, though with my own good ball on a warm day on the course it might be up to 175. I can get 185 to maybe 200 with my 3 wood, a 15 degree KZG maraging steel oldie but goodie with a Graffalloy ProLite shaft that I think is R flex (has 35+ on the other side). I get about 205+ yards carry and 225-230 total yards with my driver, a Callaway Epic Sub Zero 10.5 degree head set neutral with a Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 5 R1 shaft (also have the AD IZ 6 S shaft and go back and forth between them) and occasionally up to 245 depending on roll out and whether the fairway is cut and dry. Since I still play from the tees that have total yardages of 6100-6800 yards, I face a lot of 175 to 210 yard second shots on par 4s. So from watching tests like yours, it seems increasingly clear that I need to swap out my 3 iron and possibly 4 iron for something like a 5 wood and 7 wood. I do have a 5 wood, but it was not designed to have a CG set low and back to help with higher trajectory and softer landing. It is a 19 degree Sonartec Driving Cavity NP99 model with an Aldila NV 75 gram R/S flex shaft, designed with Nick Price's preferences in mind, meaning a quick transition and penetrating flight. I also have a 19 degree Cleveland HiBore hybrid 2 iron. Cleveland put all the specs on its shaft: 83 gram 3.2 torque mid kickpoint 370 tip. When I swing this correctly, it can launch high and allow me to reach a green, say a par 3, at 185-190 yards. But it has to be struck just right. Bottom line: It seems to me that many 5 and 7 woods these days are designed with the CG further back and low specifically to help players like me get a higher trajectory, steeper descent angle, and softer landing with less rollout on those long approach shots and par 3s. Your test and other videos I have seen make this point.
This is honestly the MOST important part of everyone's bag - and so few people have optimized it. If you remove strong younger males, basically Jackie's swing speed realistically matches most golfers that actually play. #4 / 22-degree hybrids work if your Driver swing speed is 100mph+, and #5 / 25-degree hybrids work if your Driver speed is 95mph+. 7-woods and 9-woods are far better choices for 'most' golfers - then into a 7-hybrid and then 7,8,9,PW. It's also true that 5wood is a far better choice than 3wood for this group
I have both these Ping G425 clubs. I loft the 22 degree hybrid to 23 degrees and leave the 7W at 20.5 degrees. My carry is 195 with the 7W and 183 with the 23 degree hybrid, so perfect gapping for me. The 7W is actually more equivalent (on distance) with the 19 degree hybrid.
I replaced my 3hwith a G425 7W this year. Great decision. I can hit it so much higher with more spin but also rope it low and hooking if needed. On my LM I've seen 5k spin all the way down to 3k with different swings. So versatile.
Agree on the issue of gapping so actually I game both. 7 wood goes 15 yds further than my 22 hybrid. But the 22 hybrid has tight dispersion and accurate shots. 7 wood a little more dispersion so not quite as accurate.
A 7 wood is equivalent to a 3 iron, so if you carry a 7 wood and a 4 hybrid ur gapping will be perfect. This guy is wack for saying a 7 wood equals a 4 hybrid
@@mikes2902 I agree. Have tested on the course and that’s exactly right. Tweaked the 7 wood loft down 1 degree to give me the precise distance for my course and the 4 hybrid fits perfectly between my 6 iron and the 7 wood. So can verify it works for me.
@@boxerboy860 really depends on how and how far you hit each club and whether you use the others you mention regularly eg the 5 iron. Also depends what suits your swing and your course. For example after a lot of tweaking and checking I have ended up with the following configuration that now meets all my needs and distances especially on the course I play regularly. Also depends whether you hybrid is adjustable or not. See below. So I have a driver set at 11 degrees; then a 3 wood at 18 degrees; then a 3 hybrid (18 degrees) but adjusted to 20 degrees; then a 6 iron to pw. Then two wedges - a 50 and either a 54 or sometimes a 56 again depending on what is the best bounce and soft or hard sands etc. I find that some of the traditional measures of something being equivalent between an iron and hybrid for example does not really apply to me- ie depends of how you strike them, whether you are using them to run or to stop on the green (ie viz long iron and hybrid for example). Once you have the best mix for you and that suits your swing course etc you will get a lot of confidence from the set. One thing I have found extremely useful is to go. Out with every other iron eg one day 6,8,pw another day 7,9, gw and that way you also find out which combination works best for you in terms of versatility and creativity as well as working the ball differently. Great discipline and practice taking fewer clubs and really good for your golf game - quite apart from then allowing you have a much lighter bag, walk the course etc.
I’m a weird one, as I don’t use a 3Wood. I find I’m too errant and miss a lot of fairways with it. Also I don’t play a lot of long golf courses, so my fairway finder club off the tee is a 5 Wood. Yeah I lose some distance, but I’m very confident of keeping it on the short stuff. From there I play a 3-4 hybrid at 21 deg and then into 5 iron. But, I do carry a 2 hybrid which I find is easier to hit than 3W with the shorter shaft, but also gives me a lower penetrating ball flight than 5W if I need to hit into the wind. Like I said, weird... but it works for me. Cheers
this is basically my exact setup - last iron is a 24-degree 5 iron, then a Taylormade GapR Hi 4 hybrid set open at 20.5-degrees, then a Callaway Rogue ST LS 18-degree 5 Wood. I carry 52 and 58-degree wedges for a 12-club lighter walking setup. I then have other clubs if I want more or conditions require - Callaway Subzero 3Wood set open at 12.5 degrees, Mizuno 2-hybrid set open at 15-degrees, Mizuno 3 hybrid set open at 18 degrees, and a low-bounce 62-degree wedge for firm hard sand.
This is a much better video than the one I previously watched and makes more sense and come out with the numbers I would expect. I watched the 7+9wood vs 4+5hybrid video where the 4hybrid was beating the 7wood in distance even when they were in their original lofts. I carry 5wood 18° and 4hybid 22° but was looking at filling this gap and a 7wood seems to be the best contender especially as someone who has a steep swing and low ball flight the 7wood will hopefully help me get the ball in the air easier and maybe if I get one in 21° can turn it down to a 20° club which could fit the gap perfectly 😬🤞🙏
I have bagged a 3w, 5w, and 7w at various times and i finally dumped them in favor of hybrids because on the control and better dispersion pattern for me. Other than my driver my 2 longest clubs are the Cleveland 3hywood(very underrated club) and ping g425 4 hybrid.
I’m curious how often the “average” golfer hits hybrid better than 7 wood. Everyone I know hates their hybrid flies too low or they hook the hell out of them
The comparison I hear more about is hybrid vs long iron, metal woods are a different club altogether, this test kind shows that point and the numbers tell the story
That is true. Hybrids can help players who struggle with getting their fairways in the air. We have done a video on long iron vs hybrid - check it out here! ruclips.net/video/DXoDWhmH0EE/видео.html
I think the answer if affordable is probably ‘both’. I played an M6 7 wood for a while and loved it. Now use a G425 4h and it’s great (carries a lot further than the M6 did) but there are some courses or some rounds where I wish I had that absolute moon ball without changing from my stock shot.
I use several hybrids in the G 425 series now. I changed over from Taylormades because the Ping just feels and performs better. I like both the Ping woods and hybrids alot. I do think though a shorter shaft on hybrids would give a golfer more control in general though over woods.
Doesn’t it depend on the kind of shot you hit most? If you play some long par3’s and stay on the fairway most of the time, then a seven wood might be perfect. If you get into the rough on your par fives, or need to play low stingers under trees, then the hybrid might be a better answer. I’m thinking about not using a lob wedge, and getting both.
I am a 12 HC and the main reason I play a 3 hybrid instead of my 5 wood is because I think it is easier to hit out of the rough. I am not on tour, shocker, so I find myself hitting out of the rough more often than some. If I had a perfect lie like on the range or a simulator I would take a wood all day every day. But, given that my lies are ever changing, a wood doesn't make sense for my game. Now I am even contemplating whether or not to throw out my 4 iron and get a 4 hybrid. If you just look at my bag the 4 iron looks brand new, never is touched🤣
I have purchased the G425 5-metal. It had a vertical crack in the heel of the face after about 10-15 shots. Returned it to the store and the replacement also had a vertical crack in the heel side of the face. The store clerk stated Ping would not replace the clubs. Did you guys notice any vertical cracks in the faces of those test clubs?
That is awesome! Congrats on your new clubs! Always the best feeling to get new clubs in the bag. Arccos is an excellent tool. Really focus on your gapping and what shot shape you prefer! Thank you for watching!
Hybrid wasn't consistent with distance, but looks more accurate. 7 wood was more consistent with distance, but went off target more. Hybrid would be better on a narrow fairway.
Added the 7wood and dropped the 4hybrid a few years ago..for me it was a no brainer...7wood is one of the most reliable clubs in the bag...4hybrid was one of the least
Correct, Any time you make a hosel adjustment you are adjusting the face angle. It is a way to change the loft but I would much rather fit to the correct loft first, then make those adjustments - Thomas
I would love to get fit but the only fitters in my area are all fitting in indoor off mat setups. I know that I watch all these videos and they all say it's the way to go. I cannot hit anything off the mats. I know how far I hit my clubs on the course and not even close to same thing off mats. When I ask them why they just say I really don't know how far I hit my clubs. Well that's crap because I use my rangefinder to get distance and hit the club that I hit that distance. I'm good on distance on course not as accurate on direction. So my question is how do I get fit if I can't hit off the mat?
I have cleveland 3 thru PW hb turbo hybrid irons. No 7 wood, no 5 wood. no 3 wood, only a Cobra f6 + driver and a putter. Playing better golf now than I have in years at 77 years old.
In a nutshell, fairway woods off the fairway & hybrids out of the rough. To my simple logic, it’s all in the names - I mean FAIRWAY woods is a self-explanatory name and weren’t hybrids originally called rescue clubs (i.e. to get out of trouble) ? I don’t worry to much about similar lofts if the respective clubs are used for these differing purposes.
I feel like I have more control with the hybrid but the wood gets much more height for me for me also. Jackie swings almost the same speed as me. Curious if she was using the stock Alta shafts for the testing?
You need to take the three really bad strikes out of that hybrid and the calculus is totally different. Your conclusions are based on this specific golfer as opposed to club characteristic.
If getting to the green accurately and reliably is the goal then why would you pick the club you were less accurate with…? She was more accurate with the hybrid and could club up to a 3H for a few extra yards with the same accuracy…picking the wood makes no sense for her here looking at how wide and inaccurate her shots with it were.
Hitting a green anywhere past 150 yards is pretty much a pure accident for me. I'm just wondering what club gives me the best chance to hit it flush. Hybrids have turned into hook machines, but my alternative is fairway woods which are topping machines...
@@boxerboy860 i took my hybrids out, inserted a 7 wood. I made some significant improvements to my swing, so I have good shaft lean on my irons and I've adjusted my weight shift on my fairway woods and my 7 wood is my best club off the turf and a low tee. I can hit the green at 150 with much greater regularity, though that's a weird distance for my bag since I carry my clubs, I omit the 8 iron which would be best suited for that distance...
Um pretty sure a 7 wood is supposed to go farther, idk why she’s not getting that result. Club head speed along with a bigger head should equal more distance. A 3 hybrid is actually equivalent to a 7 wood
Hybrids are quite versatile. But a higher lofted fairway wood may provide more spin and potential to shape the ball. It really is player dependent. - Thomas
This is a silly discussion. If you have green surrounded by rough you need hybrid. If you have fairway to roll onto green you want wood. You two sound like people selling clubs.
I game the P G425 7 wood and it's my favorite club in my bag
That is GREAT!!! We have heard great things about the G425 woods from our customers and fitters!
Great video! Let’s keep using Jackie for all tests instead of the guy who hits his 7-iron 190 yards ... of carry!
Hybrids are the best thing to happen to golf clubs. Dumped my 3 wood and currently smashing the ping 425 2 hybrid at 15.5 like a 4 wood. If they made hybrid driver I'd game it.
This is very useful. I have a 17-18 handicap, have played for 59 years, and will be 80 in June. I have played forged blades for many years and just like them. Have had Mizuno MP-33s and MP67s. The ones I have now are classic weak lofts, with my 7-iron being 35.5 degrees. I focus hard on making good contact (always use foot powder on the face at the range). I can carry the 7-iron 130-135 yards, although have been working hard on improving my swing and recently with warmer weather have had best strikes carry 140-42. But I can clearly see the compression in yardage with the longer irons that one faces with age and slower swing speeds, so that there is very little gap between the 3 iron and 4 iron.
I figure that I get about 165-170 yards carry with my 4 iron using range balls, though with my own good ball on a warm day on the course it might be up to 175. I can get 185 to maybe 200 with my 3 wood, a 15 degree KZG maraging steel oldie but goodie with a Graffalloy ProLite shaft that I think is R flex (has 35+ on the other side). I get about 205+ yards carry and 225-230 total yards with my driver, a Callaway Epic Sub Zero 10.5 degree head set neutral with a Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 5 R1 shaft (also have the AD IZ 6 S shaft and go back and forth between them) and occasionally up to 245 depending on roll out and whether the fairway is cut and dry.
Since I still play from the tees that have total yardages of 6100-6800 yards, I face a lot of 175 to 210 yard second shots on par 4s. So from watching tests like yours, it seems increasingly clear that I need to swap out my 3 iron and possibly 4 iron for something like a 5 wood and 7 wood. I do have a 5 wood, but it was not designed to have a CG set low and back to help with higher trajectory and softer landing. It is a 19 degree Sonartec Driving Cavity NP99 model with an Aldila NV 75 gram R/S flex shaft, designed with Nick Price's preferences in mind, meaning a quick transition and penetrating flight. I also have a 19 degree Cleveland HiBore hybrid 2 iron. Cleveland put all the specs on its shaft: 83 gram 3.2 torque mid kickpoint 370 tip. When I swing this correctly, it can launch high and allow me to reach a green, say a par 3, at 185-190 yards. But it has to be struck just right.
Bottom line: It seems to me that many 5 and 7 woods these days are designed with the CG further back and low specifically to help players like me get a higher trajectory, steeper descent angle, and softer landing with less rollout on those long approach shots and par 3s. Your test and other videos I have seen make this point.
This is honestly the MOST important part of everyone's bag - and so few people have optimized it. If you remove strong younger males, basically Jackie's swing speed realistically matches most golfers that actually play. #4 / 22-degree hybrids work if your Driver swing speed is 100mph+, and #5 / 25-degree hybrids work if your Driver speed is 95mph+. 7-woods and 9-woods are far better choices for 'most' golfers - then into a 7-hybrid and then 7,8,9,PW. It's also true that 5wood is a far better choice than 3wood for this group
Nice one, putting ego aside this makes perfect sense. 👍
You nailed it like a hammer
I have both these Ping G425 clubs. I loft the 22 degree hybrid to 23 degrees and leave the 7W at 20.5 degrees. My carry is 195 with the 7W and 183 with the 23 degree hybrid, so perfect gapping for me. The 7W is actually more equivalent (on distance) with the 19 degree hybrid.
Added a 7 wood to my bag last year and gained height, carry and distance. It is my 215 yard club. I now carry a 4 wood, 7 wood, 5 hybrid and 6 hybrid.
VERY nice! Thank you for watching!
I replaced my 3hwith a G425 7W this year. Great decision. I can hit it so much higher with more spin but also rope it low and hooking if needed. On my LM I've seen 5k spin all the way down to 3k with different swings. So versatile.
That is awesome! Glad you found a good fit with your game. They help a ton in many scenarios! Thank you for watching!
I love my Seven Heaven Warbird from late 90s.
My ping g410 3 hybrid goes the same distance as my g410 5 wood. Wasn’t expecting that. The 5 wood has a higher trajectory and is what is in my bag.
Give me a hybrid all day long, shorter shaft is more controllable for me, I'm a better iron player than wood player
That is what they are for!! Sounds like you have it figured out! Glad you know what is best for your game Nathan! Thank you for watching!
Yet, she changed the loft of the hybrid which lowers its spin and launch angle, of course that will drop it down lower than the 7 wood.
Agree on the issue of gapping so actually I game both. 7 wood goes 15 yds further than my 22 hybrid. But the 22 hybrid has tight dispersion and accurate shots. 7 wood a little more dispersion so not quite as accurate.
A 7 wood is equivalent to a 3 iron, so if you carry a 7 wood and a 4 hybrid ur gapping will be perfect. This guy is wack for saying a 7 wood equals a 4 hybrid
@@mikes2902 I agree. Have tested on the course and that’s exactly right. Tweaked the 7 wood loft down 1 degree to give me the precise distance for my course and the 4 hybrid fits perfectly between my 6 iron and the 7 wood. So can verify it works for me.
@@alysgolfstudio567 what if you have a 24* 5 iron I have the 22 *4 hybrid in the vid but trying to decide on 5 wood or 7 wood
@@boxerboy860 really depends on how and how far you hit each club and whether you use the others you mention regularly eg the 5 iron. Also depends what suits your swing and your course. For example after a lot of tweaking and checking I have ended up with the following configuration that now meets all my needs and distances especially on the course I play regularly. Also depends whether you hybrid is adjustable or not. See below. So I have a driver set at 11 degrees; then a 3 wood at 18 degrees; then a 3 hybrid (18 degrees) but adjusted to 20 degrees; then a 6 iron to pw. Then two wedges - a 50 and either a 54 or sometimes a 56 again depending on what is the best bounce and soft or hard sands etc. I find that some of the traditional measures of something being equivalent between an iron and hybrid for example does not really apply to me- ie depends of how you strike them, whether you are using them to run or to stop on the green (ie viz long iron and hybrid for example). Once you have the best mix for you and that suits your swing course etc you will get a lot of confidence from the set. One thing I have found extremely useful is to go. Out with every other iron eg one day 6,8,pw another day 7,9, gw and that way you also find out which combination works best for you in terms of versatility and creativity as well as working the ball differently. Great discipline and practice taking fewer clubs and really good for your golf game - quite apart from then allowing you have a much lighter bag, walk the course etc.
I’m a weird one, as I don’t use a 3Wood. I find I’m too errant and miss a lot of fairways with it. Also I don’t play a lot of long golf courses, so my fairway finder club off the tee is a 5 Wood. Yeah I lose some distance, but I’m very confident of keeping it on the short stuff. From there I play a 3-4 hybrid at 21 deg and then into 5 iron. But, I do carry a 2 hybrid which I find is easier to hit than 3W with the shorter shaft, but also gives me a lower penetrating ball flight than 5W if I need to hit into the wind. Like I said, weird... but it works for me. Cheers
I could have written this about myself!!!
this is basically my exact setup - last iron is a 24-degree 5 iron, then a Taylormade GapR Hi 4 hybrid set open at 20.5-degrees, then a Callaway Rogue ST LS 18-degree 5 Wood. I carry 52 and 58-degree wedges for a 12-club lighter walking setup. I then have other clubs if I want more or conditions require - Callaway Subzero 3Wood set open at 12.5 degrees, Mizuno 2-hybrid set open at 15-degrees, Mizuno 3 hybrid set open at 18 degrees, and a low-bounce 62-degree wedge for firm hard sand.
This is a much better video than the one I previously watched and makes more sense and come out with the numbers I would expect. I watched the 7+9wood vs 4+5hybrid video where the 4hybrid was beating the 7wood in distance even when they were in their original lofts. I carry 5wood 18° and 4hybid 22° but was looking at filling this gap and a 7wood seems to be the best contender especially as someone who has a steep swing and low ball flight the 7wood will hopefully help me get the ball in the air easier and maybe if I get one in 21° can turn it down to a 20° club which could fit the gap perfectly 😬🤞🙏
I have bagged a 3w, 5w, and 7w at various times and i finally dumped them in favor of hybrids because on the control and better dispersion pattern for me. Other than my driver my 2 longest clubs are the Cleveland 3hywood(very underrated club) and ping g425 4 hybrid.
Nice!! A little trial and error never hurts anyone!
I’m curious how often the “average” golfer hits hybrid better than 7 wood. Everyone I know hates their hybrid flies too low or they hook the hell out of them
average golfer would probably struggle with both
One big advantage is the ability to use the hybrid from more difficult lies. Dont often find myself middle of fairway off the tee.
The hybrid is very versatile out of tougher lies - Thomas
Exactly. I’m not confident hitting a FW off ground unless it’s a near perfect lie. The hybrid is great to getting through most conditions.
@@MrMatthew262 that’s why I got this 4 hybrid it’s my 210 yard club and on a perfect strike 220
The comparison I hear more about is hybrid vs long iron, metal woods are a different club altogether, this test kind shows that point and the numbers tell the story
That is true. Hybrids can help players who struggle with getting their fairways in the air. We have done a video on long iron vs hybrid - check it out here! ruclips.net/video/DXoDWhmH0EE/видео.html
On ping’s website, the equivalent hybrid should be the 3 hybrid to match the 7 wood due to a longer shaft on the 7 wood.
take one outlier out of each dispersion circle, and that will give a better idea of the mapping of each club
I think the answer if affordable is probably ‘both’. I played an M6 7 wood for a while and loved it. Now use a G425 4h and it’s great (carries a lot further than the M6 did) but there are some courses or some rounds where I wish I had that absolute moon ball without changing from my stock shot.
I use several hybrids in the G 425 series now. I changed over from Taylormades because the Ping just feels and performs better. I like both the Ping woods and hybrids alot. I do think though a shorter shaft on hybrids would give a golfer more control in general though over woods.
Generally yes. Fairway woods can fly higher but control is important - Thomas
Doesn’t it depend on the kind of shot you hit most? If you play some long par3’s and stay on the fairway most of the time, then a seven wood might be perfect. If you get into the rough on your par fives, or need to play low stingers under trees, then the hybrid might be a better answer. I’m thinking about not using a lob wedge, and getting both.
I am a 12 HC and the main reason I play a 3 hybrid instead of my 5 wood is because I think it is easier to hit out of the rough. I am not on tour, shocker, so I find myself hitting out of the rough more often than some. If I had a perfect lie like on the range or a simulator I would take a wood all day every day. But, given that my lies are ever changing, a wood doesn't make sense for my game. Now I am even contemplating whether or not to throw out my 4 iron and get a 4 hybrid. If you just look at my bag the 4 iron looks brand new, never is touched🤣
Jackie’s smash factor is impressive! Power is useless without technique
I have purchased the G425 5-metal. It had a vertical crack in the heel of the face after about 10-15 shots. Returned it to the store and the replacement also had a vertical crack in the heel side of the face. The store clerk stated Ping would not replace the clubs. Did you guys notice any vertical cracks in the faces of those test clubs?
We have not noticed this...
This should be good guys. Have been thinking about this for a while.
Thank you for watching! Hope you enjoyed!
Just got Ping G425 driver & 5 wood, as well as Callaway Mavrik irons. May not need a hybrid. Got arccos to figure out distances. We'll see.
That is awesome! Congrats on your new clubs! Always the best feeling to get new clubs in the bag. Arccos is an excellent tool. Really focus on your gapping and what shot shape you prefer! Thank you for watching!
Can we see an in-depth G410 vs G425 across the fairway woods please?
We will add that to our list!
Hybrid wasn't consistent with distance, but looks more accurate. 7 wood was more consistent with distance, but went off target more. Hybrid would be better on a narrow fairway.
Yes! It all depends on the golfer though! We recommend giving them both a try!
Added the 7wood and dropped the 4hybrid a few years ago..for me it was a no brainer...7wood is one of the most reliable clubs in the bag...4hybrid was one of the least
Would have liked a 3 hybrid with added loft, length would have been closer, but in both cases you are altering face angle
Correct, Any time you make a hosel adjustment you are adjusting the face angle. It is a way to change the loft but I would much rather fit to the correct loft first, then make those adjustments - Thomas
I love the idea of a 7 wood, but hard to find one with a Stiff shaft.
Check out PXG, great pricing this month and a good selection of shafts (can go with a Gen 4 - more money, proto, or 0211).
@@jasondurkin2736 I just got fitted and ordered some PXG’s. Went with proto driver and woods over hybrids. I hit the woods better then the hybrid
I would love to get fit but the only fitters in my area are all fitting in indoor off mat setups. I know that I watch all these videos and they all say it's the way to go. I cannot hit anything off the mats. I know how far I hit my clubs on the course and not even close to same thing off mats. When I ask them why they just say I really don't know how far I hit my clubs. Well that's crap because I use my rangefinder to get distance and hit the club that I hit that distance. I'm good on distance on course not as accurate on direction. So my question is how do I get fit if I can't hit off the mat?
I play both
That is great! Thank you for watching!
I have cleveland 3 thru PW hb turbo hybrid irons. No 7 wood, no 5 wood. no 3 wood, only a Cobra f6 + driver and a putter. Playing better golf now than I have in years at 77 years old.
In a nutshell, fairway woods off the fairway & hybrids out of the rough.
To my simple logic, it’s all in the names - I mean FAIRWAY woods is a self-explanatory name and weren’t hybrids originally called rescue clubs (i.e. to get out of trouble) ?
I don’t worry to much about similar lofts if the respective clubs are used for these differing purposes.
I feel like I have more control with the hybrid but the wood gets much more height for me for me also. Jackie swings almost the same speed as me. Curious if she was using the stock Alta shafts for the testing?
She used the regular Ping Tour 85 for the hybrid and the Ping Tour 75 for the 7 wood! Thank you for watching!
Great, the high lofted fairway woods are getting a revival. When does the 9 wood get put in play on tour?
Love it..haaa.. on tour.... ah.... never unless its the LPGA :)
@@JohnnyDSR I think that's what they said about 7 woods 10 yrs ago....
I read that Dustin Johnson is currently carrying a 9 wood.
Much rather have the short miss, still on line vs the left right mess off that super loft wood.
weekend bogey golfers have like a 5% chance of hitting a green from 200 yards
i like my 3 and 5 wood too much to ever consider switching
If you like them keep them in your bag - Thomas
You need to take the three really bad strikes out of that hybrid and the calculus is totally different. Your conclusions are based on this specific golfer as opposed to club characteristic.
If getting to the green accurately and reliably is the goal then why would you pick the club you were less accurate with…? She was more accurate with the hybrid and could club up to a 3H for a few extra yards with the same accuracy…picking the wood makes no sense for her here looking at how wide and inaccurate her shots with it were.
Hitting a green anywhere past 150 yards is pretty much a pure accident for me. I'm just wondering what club gives me the best chance to hit it flush. Hybrids have turned into hook machines, but my alternative is fairway woods which are topping machines...
You have to shaft lean like an iron with hybrids and woods aim to graze the grass just behind the ball
@@boxerboy860 i took my hybrids out, inserted a 7 wood. I made some significant improvements to my swing, so I have good shaft lean on my irons and I've adjusted my weight shift on my fairway woods and my 7 wood is my best club off the turf and a low tee. I can hit the green at 150 with much greater regularity, though that's a weird distance for my bag since I carry my clubs, I omit the 8 iron which would be best suited for that distance...
Um pretty sure a 7 wood is supposed to go farther, idk why she’s not getting that result. Club head speed along with a bigger head should equal more distance. A 3 hybrid is actually equivalent to a 7 wood
It comes down to the center of gravity difference that gives a huge spin rate difference - Thomas
3 wood - 1 iron , 5 wood - 2 iron , 7 wood - 3 iron , 9 wood - 4 iron
which one is easier to shape?
Hybrids are quite versatile. But a higher lofted fairway wood may provide more spin and potential to shape the ball. It really is player dependent. - Thomas
@@2ndswing thanks!
This is a silly discussion. If you have green surrounded by rough you need hybrid. If you have fairway to roll onto green you want wood.
You two sound like people selling clubs.