How Long Were the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Teenagers?: A TMNT Timeline
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- With the final issue of The Last Ronin released, we decided to go back through the original run of Eastman and Laird's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and find out exactly how long they were teenagers. Grab the time specter as we go back in time to plot out when the Ninja Turtles, what year they defeated the Shredder, and when The Last Ronin takes place. To plot out this timeline, we explore the original Mirage comics, other Eastman and Laird projects, and IDW's The Last Ronin.
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I figured that since turtles normally live such very long lives, their juvenile, adolescence, or 'teenager phase' would last significantly longer than humans.
6:45 They actually didn't get into pizza until they first appeared on TV but it's a part of who they are now isn't it.
I have an even bigger question. Why did a successful movie like TMNT do so well and the studio allow sub par movies to be made after in sequels 2 and 3.
One of the reasons is that parents complained about the violence in the first one, which is why the sequels toned down the use of weapons.
@@Rocket1377 Thank you for replying. But does not explain the crappy custom down grades and script bumbles.
Yeahhhh the way the turtles went out in the comics is a tab bit unsettling and sad to be quite honest. I prefer to think of them as immortal adolescents 🐀 💙🐢❤️🐢💜🐢🧡🐢 definitely will be buying Shredder’s Revenge on its release 😊
It's not canon
I tend to think, when it actually happens, that the turtles would all go out together.
I feel the same. Last Ronin is not really considered canon anyway. Even the creators indicated that's it's an alternate universe thing.
What an excellent timeline.
Too bad it's not canon cause last ronin isn't connected to the mirage continuity
@@tyronleung5276 yeah but its still well put together regardless, Besides she already stated that it wasn't cannon in the video lol
Ok, but when do they meet Samurai bunny badass Usagi Yojimbo?!
Love your videos! Keep it up :)
The various short stories make it even more confusing. I really don't try to apply continuity to the Mirage-verse myself but the vid is still a fun exercise.
Usagi yojimbo crossover falls into the guest era which isn't canon
Stan Sakai's Usagi issue is in between 5 and 6 I think.
I remember the ending of TMNT III
Splinter: Donatello, something troubles you.
Donatello: Yes, Master Splinter. Growing up.
She’s asking the real questions.
The answer isn't as straightforward as just looking on a calendar and largely depends on how we're defining "teenager" and what specific species they are.
If we're defining "teenager" as a specific chronological age, then they were teenagers for only 7 years - between the ages of 13 and 20 - just like any other species that lives longer than 20 years.
If we're defining "teenager" as the period of time that encapsulates the adolescent phase of ageing, then there's a good chance they were "teens" for up to 50 years, which means they could have still been adolescents by the end of The Last Ronin. Unless, of course, they are of a species that matures faster - some reach maturity in as little as 10 years - so there's also a chance that they were adults before hitting their teen years.
And that's all going on the natural, unaltered life cycles of terrestrial turtles. I won't even speculate on how the Utrom mutagen might have altered their life cycles; rats tend to only live about 2 years but Splinter was still going strong after 30 years so who knows when the turtles actually fully "grew up".
Last ronin isn't canon to mirage comics continuity it's a separate universe
This is a good one.
Great job
Hamato Yoshi= Japanese
Oroku Nagi= Japanese
Tang Shen= Definitely NOT Japanese
Apparently the boys over Nippon like their girls from the continent!
Tang shen is chinese
I didn't expect the turtles original run to end like that but atleast they fought to the bitter end even tho its sad
Yeah bro, that shit is sad…I don’t think it should’ve ended like that.
The last ronin isn't canon to the mirage books and isn't a companion piece karai in the mirage universe isn't related to shredder she's not an orroku she's actually older than saki was and she just runs the Japanese branch of the foot oroku saki has no heirs unless you count image tmnt vol 3 / tmnt urban legends as canon shredders only heir is a daughter by the name of pimiko who is slain by Lady shredder who happens to be revealed as headhunter from big bang#10 gallahad tmnt cross over prequel comic to tmnt #1 and is suspected to be the mistress who led the foot to attacked the tmnt ally from the story the passing prequel tmnt comic gosei hattori who happens to be tang shens sister tang amai but in urban legends karai's daughter who dies in city at war was retconned to be the lady shredder cyberized by the tech that made a crippled carapiceless Donatello into a cyborg
The turtles fate is much different in the mirage continuity in vol4 and tales of the tmnt vol2
XD so the TMNT 2000 series was accurate to the comics for the most part F***ING AWESOME
It is but technically it isn't. Its not too accurate cause they dragged out some issues of the first vol stories way to Long and didn't accurately adapt the books like issue 3 and issue 4 was never adapted properly they used the return to New York story twice to pad the 1st 2nd & 3rd seasons. None of the turtles wear all red mask they don't kill with their weapons only a few times where leo decapitated ch'rell shredder for which they didn't know he was an utrom or fighting the illusions of splinter and the disembodiment of the devil in this version the comics didn't have hun until vol.4 which he was retconned into the lore along with charles Pennington from the 1990 film by Tristan Jones there was no notes from the underground monster characters or sewer home with love craftian origins that opens up top to the NYC streets there's no ultimate ninja touch and go
Yeah, but they ruined it with the "Shredder is an Utrom" twist.
She called them tortoises, they're turtles. If you wanted an all encompassing term, terrapin is the proper venacular.
It depends on where you live. Terrapin isn't common in the US and for most Americans it denotes a small specific type of chelonian. Other places terrapin is specific to freshwater chelonian while turtle used for marine or ocean-dwelling chelonians.
In the US, turtle is the overarching term which usually encompasses turtles, tortoises, and terrapins. The question is, are the Ninja Turtles actually turtles? They are occasionally semi-aquatic but also have some tortoise qualities (modern depictions ie. IDW, the 2012 show, etc.) show them with more tortoise-like feet. Arguably, they spend their time predominantly on land. They do not possess and webbed-feet or other aquatic adaptations that turtles/terrapins tend to have.
This could be a consequence of their mutation or maybe the term "turtle" was used in the American sense meaning any chelonian. Regardless, we used artistic license when calling tortoises (it gets a bit boring writing and saying turtle over and over). However, a case could be made that they are, in fact, tortoises.
@@ChannelingSpirits thanks for the insight! I figured it wasn't common. I only learned the work 8 years ago from a book on my russian tortoise. I always correct people who call him a turtle lol
Funny you should mention it because their toes, shells, and scales have always looked more tortoise like to me. Turtles would really look more smooth with webbed toes.🤷♂️
TLR jibes with the IDW run, not the original Mirage run.
Isn't that kind of a personal question?
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The last ronin isn't canon to mirage it's it's own universe. That uses idw comics art style 87 cartoon and 1990s movie references.
1)Donatello in mirage is the last surviving ninja turtle not Michaelangelo, Michaelangelo would die in the tmnt odyssey book meeting his fate by faking his death via an utrom transmat device and became the villianous shogun using the power of the turnstone from the Archie adventures tmnt universe to destroy the tmnt multiverse teaming up with mr null, savanti romero, and savanti juliet, In the end with the help of the Archie ninja turtle ally/ villain slash, venus demilo, and the mighty mutanimals mirage Michaelangelo would be killed by an elderly mirage raph, elderly mirage leo and an elderly mirage don ressurected from the points of their deaths by a dying elderly renet who gave them the last bit of her powers to fight savanti romero and savanti juliet.
2) baxter was a cyborg with his brain he put himself in a robot in area 51 in vol2 of tmnt, in last ronin they made him a henchmen of the foot which he never actually crossed paths with the foot.
3) oroku hiroto cannot be the grandson of shredder and karai is not sherdders daughter, oroku saki had no heirs in the mirage comics he was resurrected two times by modern science and foot mystics black magic, unless image tmnt aka tmnt urban legends is canon oroku pimiko would be oroku saki's daughter suspected to be the kunoich called "the mistress" and revealed as the assassin "headhunter" aka tang amai who lord komodo adopted pimiko after her mom died
4) karai is not related to shredder, she's actually older than oroku saki and is the Japanese branch of the foot jonin where as saki was just the american branch of the foot chunin who the nyc foot only answered to the shredders authority rather than the original operation in Japan.
5) the turtles and splinter die differently in mirage Canon, splinter passes away from a heart attack alone at Casey's farm in Massachusetts and becomes a totem God of the rats replacing the rat king and is the one in control of the battle Nexus and is replaced with a clone by Donatello that was set to be created after curing himself of being small as an action figure and cure raph of his dinosaur appearance, Raphael dies in the Brazilian jungle a feral hermit missing one eye from caseys adopted daughter shadow jones who is destined to become a foot ninja and lost one of his sais converting the remaining sai into a spear fighting off drug kingpins and dies alone in a jungle as revealed in Michaelangelo Christmas special reprint Christmas Carole esque short story of Raphael's Christmas future, Leonardo would live to be 100 years old as a widower formerly married to native American superhero radical raven shadowheart who was killed by her arch nemisis complete carnage leo would slay complete carnage and then lead a life of becoming a pacifist who traded in his dual katana for an electric boken from Donatello, go on a time traveling adventure with his younger selves to save a dying elderly god and commit seppuku, Donatello would be revealed as the last ninja turtle in a short story by Peter laird and Kevin eastman and he would out live his brothers and die on his death bed blind and elderly passing away in his sleep.
TMNT Odyssey is a fan project it isn’t cannon at all.
at the end of the the mirage run it was a cliff hanger ending and they were all alive they were just all separated.
mikey was on another planet with the tricentons lol
@@6ixallah tmnt odyssey was done by official mirage staff and idw staff so technically it's semi canon place holder and peter laird isn't up to following up and finishing vol4 nor Kevin eastman they let the project go to do other things in life kevin eastman abandoned the tmnt to do heavy metal and tundra and left it up to michael dooney steve Lavigne Eric talbot jim lawson ac farley Tristan Jones sophie campbell etc and Peter laird called it quits and sold to viacom caught up in his own politics and buisness aspect of tmnt so its up to the staff to continue with out them the donatello plastron Cafe short story old times it's canon the tales of the tmnt collection short story where renet goes to the future to see donatello blind old and dying in his bed it's canon to the mirage, the tales of the tmnt story where leonardo wife radical aka raven shadowheart is killed by complete carnage it's canon and Raphael Christmas Carol short story of his ghost of Christmas future shows the point of his death going feral in the Brazilian jungle fighting drug cartels using alien tech
@@tyronleung5276 bro it’s no cannon lol you are tryna over confirm somthing that’s not cannon us fans jus read odyssey as a place holder for an ending but that story also contradicts listen bro I like that story to but it’s not cannon period 😂
While I agree that the last Roman is a good companion piece to the original Mirage comics run, they obviously can't fit into the same continuity. Obviously the last ronin takes a lot from Mirage, but it's another timeline.
As for the Mirage timeline itself, since you only covered volume one I would say that volume is by far the most fluid since it's more or less the longest. So I'd say that while you could say it pretty much occurs in real time, I would somewhat argue against that. But I think it's up to interpretation so to each his own. And don't even get me started on the other volumes.
The comics continuity is far more complex than you've laid out here. Migraine inducingly so.
Good video regardless, made my day.
Exactly not counting the unofficial conclusion to the mirage continuity with the tmnt odyssey and tmnt origin graphic novels by Arseniy dubakov Andrew modeen illusions studios
Can you do Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde?
Even thought it doesn't fit the branding as far as channel name goes who cares. If its really is a big deal fuck it call the channel Channeling Nostalgia.
Eh, the Turtles _have_ canonically worked with the Ghostbusters several times so we can use the 6 Degrees To Kevin Bacon rules to make it fit and call it even.
Besides, I doubt most fans of the channel are going to complain as most of us are likely Turtle fans.
@@Dargonhuman I was responding to a post they made were they we concerned it did not fit with their name and Im was letting them know it doesnt matter
@@t.c.v.t. Gotcha. I still agree with what you said, though.
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0:56 - Turtles ≠ tortoises... makes me remember a video of someone throwing a tortoise 'back' into water, and they can't swim, which is why I need to correct this error
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At least a bit more straightforward.
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