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But the mother needs to believe that no matter what Allah comes first in the child's life. Allah before the parents because Allah can do impossible things. Sometimes 2 parents are bad if they don't stop being bitter with each other.
@@thetruthwithproof8802 Intercession will be done by many people and by Allah himself for people who are going to 🔥 . Please, if you are going to be deceptive, do it on a topic that is not taught to every believing child on Earth. Finding a more obscure topic that we don’t learn about often.
I‘m 21 yo and not married yet, but already at the beginning of this episode when the brothers told their stories I started crying. The most evil thing you can do to your children is to take their right of having a father (or a mother) in their lives. It is truly evil. May Allah guide those sisters/brothers doing this.
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I was a child of a nasty divorce. Almost the same situation, it was all amicable until my dad moved on. My mum didn’t want him but didn’t want no one else to have him. I was poisoned to hate my dad too, my only contact with him was via my mum and all i was told was he doesn’t want me anymore. he’d written me letters but obviously they were delivered when i was at school so my mum would hide them (I found them as an adult hidden in her wardrobe) I was encouraged to write nasty letters to my dad to make him think I hated him. Elhamdulillah he took my mum to court and £7000 and 2 years later we restored visitation and i’m so close with my dad now. I separated from my eldests dad and as much as i really dislike the man, as much as i don’t want him around my son, I would never ever stop them seeing each other because it’s not about me! Using kids as a weapon is so common but sooo so sad for the children, and a pathetic and nasty move!
she really was but thankfully she has calmed down in old age. & being nothing like her elhamdulillah it didn’t effect my fathers and my relationship in the long run as i seen through the lies. But that’s not the case for everyone sadly
@@zapbranigan5099 Yeah, just ignore the 14 years of alienation that happened and just assume this guy is a bad father. I could not relate to spending 30k on getting to see your kids, I would just get a new family, but it is because I have learnt from others mistakes.
This episode really brought me to tears... May Allah guide our brother's and sister's on this matter. I admire sister Ayra for sharing her actual experience for your podcast, very valuable for everyone listening. Allah humma barik ❤ my Allah keep us all steadfast on our deen 🤲
Many du'āt and Ulama do, it's wise not to make a blanket statement due to one's own experience, someone such as Abu Ibraheem husnayn has spoke on this matter very in depth , with out causing confusion amongst Muslims
@@razwanashraf5363 I converted to Islam 25 years ago and I can not remember any da'ee or scholar discussing discussing this particular issue of women using their children to punish their ex-husbands. I know several brothers, including myself, who have had to enture this torture from out ex-wives and we have lamented the fact that seemingly none of the da'ees and scholars discuss this problem. Having said that I will look for Abu Ibraheem's lecure insha Allah. jzk Allah kheir
@@DaggerSecurityou are right! I’m in my 30’s and come from a Muslim family, and also noticed many scholars don’t live in the west. So They don’t understand our struggles. In Islamic countries or in the 3rd world, much more can be done to tackle such issues but the west always favours the women or good for nothing dads!!! So to many scholars this isn’t really an issue and they tend to focus on what they see around them.
May Allah bless this sister in White hijab for sharing her story for better understanding for men cuz not a lot of women would edmit these things. May Allah make it easy for her. And May Allah make it easy for the brothers and the sisters out there that are going thru this and give them patience. Everything is a test from Allah.
@@Wilmao475toxic Mahdi. Can’t force / bully a women to accept polygamy and his unislamic ways then get bitter when the woman leaves . Women have to protect their kids from toxic dads.
Women who LIE just to get their husbands/BFs into trouble that could lock them up unjustly for many many years should be imprisoned when found guilty. No mercy should be shown to them whatsoever!
I'm a woman and I agree with you 100% women should be held accountable for their actions, unless this punishment isn't put in place many more women will follow the crowd and alhumdaulillah im that sheep that stirs away from the herd
This is a great healthy discussion on this increasingly common issue. My uncle went through a similar situation, when he divorced his non muslim wife of 20 years. His wife alienated the youngest child of theirs and was also very aggressive towards their older male child. After spending over £250k on lawyers fees due to years of court procedures and mediation, the best thing he says was hiring a private psychologist whom helped him finally see his daughter on a weekly basis. There were of course still many games played during this time with his ex wife. SubhanAllah not even 1 year after he started seeing his daughter at age 12, his ex wife got tongue cancer and died a horrific short battle. Now his daughter lives with him and her brother, aswell as a stepmum and siblings however the alienation and manipulation her mum did during the younger years have severely damaged the girl beyond repair. Her relationship with her dad is unrepairable, she just cant let go of the ideas and lies fed to her from her mum despite seeing the opposite of what she was told her dad was like from her mum. Its truly heartbreaking and never ending 😢 May Allah help and guide all those in this situation 🙏
SubhanAllah, so sad! At least he got his daughter now and I hope she has accepted Islam! Why do Muslim men obsess with the kaffir women in the west who will misguide their kids! At least even if a Muslim woman takes the kids away they will be raised as Muslims and with time, the kids will learn and realise that islamically their mum was in the wrong
@sadyadey782 Allah alem how she even got cancer. From diagnosis to death was about 9 months. When she was diagnosed social services and private therapist were pushing her to force her to let their daughter see her dad. As she was deteriorating, she didn't have as much energy to manipulate them all anymore. At this point he was married with 2 young kids and had almost given up with the idea of having his daughter in his life
I’m unmarried without children, yet, but I followed for support. May Allah swt ease your troubles 🤲🏻 and well done ali , you make us more aware about a lot of things brother. may Allah swt bless you and your loved ones 🤲🏻
Great podcast! Allaahumma baarik! So much benefit and an eye-opener to what is really going on in the Muslim community. Sisters need to fear Allaah! May Allaah elevate the ranks of these sisters on the panel for calling out the evil that many sisters are involved in, using the system against the Muslim brothers!
Can’t wait to watch this!!! Always love this podcast with amazing brothers and sisters who are able to have serious discussions even with disagreements. So important in todays age
Like Ali said I was also shook hearing sister Fahima's story and hearing it changed my whole perspective about her even though I already liked her as a frequent guest. May Allah bless her and her ex husband for dealing with their divorce the way it should be done and safeguarding their children's futures. May Allah bless and protect her family
Some incredible honesty, reflections, humility especially from the sisters. It was so evident how challenging some of this was to discuss. I just want to say may Allah bless you. I can fully empathise sympathise with so much of this.
Please next time would be good to have grown up kids talk about how it’s affected them. These are the voices that never really get heard. It affects every aspect of your life even how you approach your spouse, seeing your parents like that you can never build a solid intimate relationship bcuz of things like this.
I hope Ali can answer why he cut out Mahdi from this episode? Not gonna make assumptions about Ali but this isn’t like him so I’m curious as to why he was edited out
great podcast bro! a mother should never prevent the kids from seeing their father unless there is evidence of previous violence towards the kids - unfortunately, the courts in this country favour mothers just for dropping a couple tears
I hope this is brought up in this and similar conversations. Physical emotional financial abuse are the reasons most women are forced to leave and have to keep children away from fathers. Very often the children are so scared to see the father and even the fathers controlling family members. The abuse they suffer is hard for outsiders to believe becauseit all happens behind closed doors. The wife and children suffer because they leave in a number of ways including being vilified by community for not enduring and staying for sake of the children. Children are being far more damaged when a woman stays in an abusive relationship.
@@Easy-gs9xiignorant people will never understand this. The reason for my divorce was emotional and financial abuse. I know many sisters going through the same as they want to give kids access to both parents! Everyone’s issue is different and people need to stop getting too emotional and listen to men who cry wolf. I don’t care I was taken away from my dad and his family. He wasn’t providing and never did anything for us. It’s toxic for the kids being around a dad who doesn’t understand his role as a dad. They end up with such men and the cycle continues. These dads act so humble and practising but under cover are very evil. I don’t even trust these mens stories as only Allah knows what’s in their hearts. Many good Mums have been through hell and when kids get older also get to understand this. Just Like I did.
Someone I know. Uses the house against them, saying youl be destroyed as manipulation and skint. Rather then working as two parents looking forward for the kids. They become selfish and wanting revenge using the house and kids against them.
The lady who stopped the kid seeing their father from day one have no excuse, eventually realising they were wrong after few years should compensate the father for every single child father contact missed
My mum was also a single mum and even though our dad wronged her shes still told us he is our dad and she forgave him for his shortcomimgs alhumdulilah. Now i lost both my parents and a sister most recently my beutiful beloved mum last year ramadhan 2022.
There’s freedom of speech and there’s Islam. I’d be disappointed if Mahdi was cut off because he wasn’t given freedom of speech but if what he says is truly Unislamic and damaging for the Ummah then he should be cut out. We’d all like a reason
O you who have believed, indeed, among your wives and your children are enemies to you, so beware of them. But if you pardon and overlook and forgive - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. Quran 64:14
I’m in the same situation for the past 12 years. My ex says all sorts of things to my two children. But I have maintained until now that from my mouth not one word will come out anything bad about their mother. And I will not be fooled into doing anything that’s contrary to the Quran & sunnah Alhumdulillah. It’s a pain but I be patient for the sake of allah. My kids they want to go and visit my parents that too has been prevented, they are now 14 years old they have seen my parents only once. There is only one thing I can do to my parents to make them smile is by them seeing my two kids at the 80+ age. Sad thing is my ex is so called salafi and in her I’m not salafi enough. I’m not against salafis, but I’m against that cult salafi.
Co-parenting is just difficult, it’s always one parent that is bitter. Man can be as bitter sometimes and make coparents difficult. Like, some women want help but they don’t want to help because they don’t want to give the woman day off or pay child-support.
@Fortifier1021 It’s okay we can be balanced in our discussion. However I agree with you that if your first instinct is to deflect then you’re probably not listening.
@Fortifier1021 who said in person I don’t hold woman accountable if they do that. Problem with ppl like u on the internet, are apparently mind-readers and knew what I was thinking when writing that. I wasn’t scoring a point. Very negative
Man vs woman. Woman vs man neverending saga. Why we cannot live in Peace? Ego? Anger? Selfishness? Narcissism? shaitan never sleeps. I'm really scary to marry🙍🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Sadly there are too many sisters out there who have been raised to get all that they can get through any means possible. Forget whether it is Islamically permissible or not. Forget that you could be violating the rights of a husband, forget that you could be earning the Wrath of Allah... it is as long as I hurt him and get what I want.
At the start of the programme I thought brother Mehdi would be perfect for this podcast after I’d seen a video on his channel that he’s been through something like this. Then towards the end of this video i caught a glimpse of him on the side. Please can I ask why he wasn’t vocal in this podcast?
Thank you brother Ali for reiterating the value of a womans role as a mother. If you can maybe do a talk so other brothers can see this value too. My utmost respect for the sister in white hijab, the reflection, and the honesty I am in full admiration. Alhamdulilah for sisters like this .
Jazakallahkhair brother Ali. If possible can you do a similar topic where on one panel you bring the same women or women of the same age group vs elder women who went through divorce. To compare how divorced women think when it's fresh to older women, whose kids have now grown and moved on with their lives.
I guess the video shorter because Bro Mahdi was cut in it lol. Anyway, it was an interesting topic especially in the west and I pray and hope that people will learn from this. Thank you
What about the men who aren’t active in their children’s life after the divorce.. neither physically or financially.. and the mother has no choice but to go down the courts route to get what she needs as there is no support. Some men become bitter after the divorce and cannot differentiate between the children and the mother. Instead he runs away. I do not condone lying and would never keep the kids away from their father but fathers need to actually want to be fathers rather than acting like they want to and there’s no action behind their words
@@disqualified_dads he refused to sign daycare papers so I can work .. accused me of tricking him to sign custody papers .. he also is not consistently providing any support for his children.. he hasn’t seen them in months .. he knows he can come see them anytime but would rather tell everyone since I’m going through the courts I’m trying to take his kids away from him and cut him off
@@Jewels347 sister there are good parents and bad parents, ultimately good and bad fathers/mothers. It’s very sad he dosent spend time with his children, I hope for your children, he steps in and spends time with them.
These discussions will be much better when you bring Brother Mahdi back into the discussion. He is frankly the only one who isn't afraid to tell it how it is.
What about father who gest access but refuse to make the effort to see the child and refuse to contribute financially towards the upbringing of the child
Can you do an episode about husbands with asian backgrounds who listens to their sisters and mothers when it comes to taking small or big decisions in life which is going to effect the marital life. They do this instead of talking about things with their own wife and making decisions with her, it’s even when it comes to parenting, lifelong investment, where to settle ect ect.
If u ever have to use ur children as ur weapon that means u have lost control and need help , for sake of the kids get help because ur kids will suffer . Children need both parents
I don't comment usually but when i see i jnjustices i do . Brother ali it appears you have invited br.Mahdi and took his right to say on the matter but also his face wasn't completely viewed. We demand an explanation as followers probably apologise for br.thx
This topic shouldn't even have to be addressed. If one fears Allah and follow Allahs law one wouldn't even dare to do any unjust to anyone. Be it a wife, husband , children ore neighbour. Be it a muslim ore non muslim. We have rights and obligations towards eachothers. This is very saddening and heartbreaking
اللهم برك , one of the most productive topics, if not the most productive, you guys have discussed. The were things I never even knew and الحمد الله have now taken away with a beautiful perspective. May Allah bless the brothers and sisters on this show امين
Some women keep their kids away from their father initially due to being bitter after a breakup, then after a while realise its too much work on their own and bring the father back into the picture.. Selfish really
Depends on their emotions. They know they can hurt fathers with their kids. One day the children will figure it out and begrudge the mother. What goes around comes around
@@93boxing81 this is what mainstream media does . They dont want to hear real truth and only talk about women. Because of these Man are getting discriminated all over the world. This is tge reason why red pill exist.
I was agreeing with the first sister that spoke who coaches her clients until she said. "Even if there was abuse". Im not letting my daughter see a man that abused her mother.
That shows you didn't understand what she was saying. Abuse is such a plastic term that can be used in anyway you like. Many times people who accuse others of abuse fail to see that they too may be guilty of abuse. If there is potential of abuse from the father towards the daughter then there are options for safeguarding but to break a relationship completely is never right as children have a right to formulate an independant relationship with both parents.
@waqasamin7029 but she wasn't talking about accusations of abuse she said abuse. So that means if it did happen she would think its okay for the children to see that person
@@sherrygg6551 that's the point she's trying to make. even if the husband was a complete idiot and abusive but he was a good father to the children and there were no safeguarding risks, then as difficult as it is, the mother needs to facilitate a relationship with the father. If the father is a threat to the children then that's where safeguarding comes in and you put in steps to ensure children's safety but again that's a different point here from what this episode was about.
I really wanted to hear brother Mahdi’s comments. Based on brother Ali’s response to Mahdi’s comment, i think all Mahdi’s comments were reasonable. I think it is rude deleting him like this.
"one lie can cause 2 countries to go to war" ...SubhanAllah, imagine Allah swt questioning you on the day of judgment for a lie that you made that effected so many people.
May Allah keep you smiling brother Ahmed and aid you in your work. I say that from the bottom and deepest depths of my heart. May Allah unite you with those who you love.
Have you noticed that its very one sided, I am more curious about what his ex wife has to say for fairness and equality. Recently it has been proven people can say anything true or false we cannot verify it and therefore judgement should not be made. The prophet (may peace be upon him) if you cannot say anything good, then remain silent. Also Allah the all knowing states in the Quran s “O you who have faith! Avoid much suspicion. Indeed some suspicions are sins.” [Surah Hujurat:12] Therefore this notion of passing a guilty verdict from the eyes of public is haram because it is a suspicion without prrof and should be stayed away. Also “Certainly Allah has made sacred the blood, property and respect of a Muslim (from another Muslim) and he must not even entertain bad thoughts (about the other Muslim).” Again talking negatively about people, muslims is not Jaiz, and definitely should not be public. If something bad has happened then it be dealt with accordingly to Sharia and/or the law of the land.
I absolutely loved this podcast god bless you all! I am not married nor have kids but this is a major eye opener for the future! A big piece was missing during this podcast which was Mahdi. I personally feel like he was a lot of knowledge regarding this topic and would’ve educated us a bit more. It would be disappointing if we couldn’t hear his output in a future episode/reupload. Allah bless you all 🤲
My mother and father divorced before I was 1 years old but I remember my father use to come to my mamas house having coffee with my grandmother no problem at all my mother never spoke bad about my dad at all
Excellent, really enjoyed this watch. Great format to the discussion and very well hosted by brother Ali. Spot on! Plz continue theese type of sit downs with other relevant subjects that need airing out publicly. A positive style of building bridges and preparing the next generation of Muslims to the straight path.
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Why did you edit out Mahdi?
What was the reason brother Mahdi excluded and edited out from the conversation. Very strange 😒
But the mother needs to believe that no matter what Allah comes first in the child's life. Allah before the parents because Allah can do impossible things. Sometimes 2 parents are bad if they don't stop being bitter with each other.
@@equityjustice2695 rudeboy was probably saying mad stuff 😭😭
@@thetruthwithproof8802 Intercession will be done by many people and by Allah himself for people who are going to 🔥 . Please, if you are going to be deceptive, do it on a topic that is not taught to every believing child on Earth. Finding a more obscure topic that we don’t learn about often.
I‘m 21 yo and not married yet, but already at the beginning of this episode when the brothers told their stories I started crying. The most evil thing you can do to your children is to take their right of having a father (or a mother) in their lives. It is truly evil. May Allah guide those sisters/brothers doing this.
Ameen and may Allah SWT allow these broken homes to become stronger than ever ameen
mate dont get married - u will regret it for the rest of your life. if u wanna get married - move out of the west.
Women using these tactics need to be stopped. I find it the most cruel and disgusting thing to do depriving a child from his/her father
They are not "women" they are among the shayatine !
@@fabriceharris3364 technically theyre women under the influence of shaytan but i get your point
Why was brother Mahdi edited out from the conversation?
That's why majority of them will follow dajjal and will be in hellfire
Have you guys noticed the ladies kept saying its children’s rights rather than fathers rights?
Man you just can’t keep women’s emotions grounded
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Why was Mahdi cut out from the conversation
Ali Dawah, would you say you are a coward for cropping out Mahdi?
@@equityjustice2695 because he is worried about the backlash he will get from sisters.
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I was a child of a nasty divorce. Almost the same situation, it was all amicable until my dad moved on. My mum didn’t want him but didn’t want no one else to have him.
I was poisoned to hate my dad too, my only contact with him was via my mum and all i was told was he doesn’t want me anymore.
he’d written me letters but obviously they were delivered when i was at school so my mum would hide them
(I found them as an adult hidden in her wardrobe)
I was encouraged to write nasty letters to my dad to make him think I hated him.
Elhamdulillah he took my mum to court and £7000 and 2 years later we restored visitation and i’m so close with my dad now.
I separated from my eldests dad and as much as i really dislike the man, as much as i don’t want him around my son, I would never ever stop them seeing each other because it’s not about me!
Using kids as a weapon is so common but sooo so sad for the children, and a pathetic and nasty move!
she really was but thankfully she has calmed down in old age.
& being nothing like her elhamdulillah it didn’t effect my fathers and my relationship in the long run as i seen through the lies.
But that’s not the case for everyone sadly
Your story got me 😢 dripping.
The system is corrupt I spent 30k and gave up in the end not seen my child over 14 Years.
Stay strong bro 😢
@@cumarmohamed9709 Alhumduliliah -Allah is the greatest ..Baraak Allah Feekum ❤️
One of my friends took his own life. His wife was using the kids against him 😢
@Prince of Arsenal: You spent 30k but by Allah, you ex will pay an even higher price in the next world
@@zapbranigan5099
Yeah, just ignore the 14 years of alienation that happened and just assume this guy is a bad father.
I could not relate to spending 30k on getting to see your kids, I would just get a new family, but it is because I have learnt from others mistakes.
This episode really brought me to tears... May Allah guide our brother's and sister's on this matter. I admire sister Ayra for sharing her actual experience for your podcast, very valuable for everyone listening. Allah humma barik ❤ my Allah keep us all steadfast on our deen 🤲
Coming from a father: THANK YOU. MAY ALLAH REWARD YOU WITH GOOD. Daees and scholars need to talk about this.
Many du'āt and Ulama do, it's wise not to make a blanket statement due to one's own experience, someone such as Abu Ibraheem husnayn has spoke on this matter very in depth , with out causing confusion amongst Muslims
@@razwanashraf5363 I converted to Islam 25 years ago and I can not remember any da'ee or scholar discussing discussing this particular issue of women using their children to punish their ex-husbands. I know several brothers, including myself, who have had to enture this torture from out ex-wives and we have lamented the fact that seemingly none of the da'ees and scholars discuss this problem.
Having said that I will look for Abu Ibraheem's lecure insha Allah. jzk Allah kheir
@@DaggerSecurityou are right! I’m in my 30’s and come from a Muslim family, and also noticed many scholars don’t live in the west. So They don’t understand our struggles. In Islamic countries or in the 3rd world, much more can be done to tackle such issues but the west always favours the women or good for nothing dads!!!
So to many scholars this isn’t really an issue and they tend to focus on what they see around them.
@@razwanashraf5363can you please list the salafi scholars who have covered this topic in-depth?
Jazakallah Khairan
Yes they need to talk more
A women who keeps her kids away from their father for no good reason is not a mother, Muslim by name, not by nature
May Allah bless this sister in White hijab for sharing her story for better understanding for men cuz not a lot of women would edmit these things. May Allah make it easy for her. And May Allah make it easy for the brothers and the sisters out there that are going thru this and give them patience. Everything is a test from Allah.
Ameen
Ameen
Ameen
Fantastic video. It's refreshing to hear these sisters are speaking out against those evil mothers.
This podcast should of been 1hr half or 2 hours, brilliant topic. Allah bless you all
It probably was. He cut out Mahdi Tidjani who knows about this topic first hand. The fact Ali Dawah felt scared of the backlash says a lot about him
@@Wilmao475toxic Mahdi. Can’t force / bully a women to accept polygamy and his unislamic ways then get bitter when the woman leaves . Women have to protect their kids from toxic dads.
Women who LIE just to get their husbands/BFs into trouble that could lock them up unjustly for many many years should be imprisoned when found guilty. No mercy should be shown to them whatsoever!
In Islam the BF isn’t considered the child’s father, only the husband
I'm a woman and I agree with you 100% women should be held accountable for their actions, unless this punishment isn't put in place many more women will follow the crowd and alhumdaulillah im that sheep that stirs away from the herd
Men too btw doesn’t apply only to women ..
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This is a great healthy discussion on this increasingly common issue.
My uncle went through a similar situation, when he divorced his non muslim wife of 20 years. His wife alienated the youngest child of theirs and was also very aggressive towards their older male child. After spending over £250k on lawyers fees due to years of court procedures and mediation, the best thing he says was hiring a private psychologist whom helped him finally see his daughter on a weekly basis. There were of course still many games played during this time with his ex wife.
SubhanAllah not even 1 year after he started seeing his daughter at age 12, his ex wife got tongue cancer and died a horrific short battle.
Now his daughter lives with him and her brother, aswell as a stepmum and siblings however the alienation and manipulation her mum did during the younger years have severely damaged the girl beyond repair. Her relationship with her dad is unrepairable, she just cant let go of the ideas and lies fed to her from her mum despite seeing the opposite of what she was told her dad was like from her mum. Its truly heartbreaking and never ending 😢 May Allah help and guide all those in this situation 🙏
SubhanAllah, so sad! At least he got his daughter now and I hope she has accepted Islam! Why do Muslim
men obsess with the kaffir women in the west who will misguide their kids! At least even if a Muslim woman takes the kids away they will be raised as Muslims and with time, the kids will learn and realise that islamically their mum was in the wrong
Ameen and I seriously don't know why brother/sisters have the heart to do this to their ex spouses 💯💯💯
Why only when he started seeing/visiting his child did the mom die of tongue cancer as per your comment and I’m just curious 🧐
@sadyadey782 Allah alem how she even got cancer. From diagnosis to death was about 9 months. When she was diagnosed social services and private therapist were pushing her to force her to let their daughter see her dad. As she was deteriorating, she didn't have as much energy to manipulate them all anymore. At this point he was married with 2 young kids and had almost given up with the idea of having his daughter in his life
Maa Shaa Allah this is really growing better with every episode
Thanks brother Ali and guess ❤
I’m unmarried without children, yet, but I followed for support. May Allah swt ease your troubles 🤲🏻 and well done ali , you make us more aware about a lot of things brother. may Allah swt bless you and your loved ones 🤲🏻
Great podcast! Allaahumma baarik! So much benefit and an eye-opener to what is really going on in the Muslim community. Sisters need to fear Allaah! May Allaah elevate the ranks of these sisters on the panel for calling out the evil that many sisters are involved in, using the system against the Muslim brothers!
Can’t wait to watch this!!! Always love this podcast with amazing brothers and sisters who are able to have serious discussions even with disagreements. So important in todays age
Fahima is such an amazing woman, her way of thinking and approach to co parenting is inspirational! An inspiration to all women! May Allah bless her
She’s a feminist far from amazing women
@@MessiWorldCup-th2de how is she a feminist?
@@MessiWorldCup-th2de Stay hatin' kiddo
@@MessiWorldCup-th2deu just hate seeing an educated women
@@maz8487 have u seen her views?
I just would really like to say May Allah bless Sis Khairat and sis Fahima. Its not always easy to put ones traumatic experiences out like that.
The women that indulge in this practice will get what’s coming to them in due time
100% Allah is most Just
May Allah reward you immensely Ali, this issue needs highlighting
May Allah bless the sisters on this podcast and may he grant them the happiness of both worlds.
Some judges can see through the lies. These brothers are doing an amazing job
Like Ali said I was also shook hearing sister Fahima's story and hearing it changed my whole perspective about her even though I already liked her as a frequent guest. May Allah bless her and her ex husband for dealing with their divorce the way it should be done and safeguarding their children's futures. May Allah bless and protect her family
Wow, one of the most amazing podcasts Ali from you.
It would have been if Mahdi would have been allowed to talk and not censored
Some incredible honesty, reflections, humility especially from the sisters. It was so evident how challenging some of this was to discuss. I just want to say may Allah bless you. I can fully empathise sympathise with so much of this.
Please next time would be good to have grown up kids talk about how it’s affected them. These are the voices that never really get heard. It affects every aspect of your life even how you approach your spouse, seeing your parents like that you can never build a solid intimate relationship bcuz of things like this.
I hope Ali can answer why he cut out Mahdi from this episode? Not gonna make assumptions about Ali but this isn’t like him so I’m curious as to why he was edited out
I think he might have asked Ali to take him out of video. For legal reasons. Let’s be patient and understanding.
@@alm_alb probably. But let's be honest, Mahdi has to stop being redpill. May Allah guide him.
great podcast bro! a mother should never prevent the kids from seeing their father unless there is evidence of previous violence towards the kids - unfortunately, the courts in this country favour mothers just for dropping a couple tears
I hope this is brought up in this and similar conversations.
Physical emotional financial abuse are the reasons most women are forced to leave and have to keep children away from fathers. Very often the children are so scared to see the father and even the fathers controlling family members.
The abuse they suffer is hard for outsiders to believe becauseit all happens behind closed doors. The wife and children suffer because they leave in a number of ways including being vilified by community for not enduring and staying for sake of the children. Children are being far more damaged when a woman stays in an abusive relationship.
@@Easy-gs9xiignorant people will never understand this. The reason for my divorce was emotional and financial abuse. I know many sisters going through the same as they want to give kids access to both parents!
Everyone’s issue is different and people need to stop getting too emotional and listen to men who cry wolf.
I don’t care I was taken away from my dad and his family. He wasn’t providing and never did anything for us. It’s toxic for the kids being around a dad who doesn’t understand his role as a dad. They end up with such men and the cycle continues. These dads act so humble and practising but under cover are very evil. I don’t even trust these mens stories as only Allah knows what’s in their hearts. Many good Mums have been through hell and when kids get older also get to understand this. Just Like I did.
Someone I know. Uses the house against them, saying youl be destroyed as manipulation and skint. Rather then working as two parents looking forward for the kids. They become selfish and wanting revenge using the house and kids against them.
Thank you brothers and sisters you guys shade light important topics that our community faces across the globe
God bless all the people involved in this discussion for sharing there very intmate personal stories to highlight this problem.
The lady who stopped the kid seeing their father from day one have no excuse, eventually realising they were wrong after few years should compensate the father for every single child father contact missed
Very important topic that was raised! May Allah be pleased with you all!
My mum was also a single mum and even though our dad wronged her shes still told us he is our dad and she forgave him for his shortcomimgs alhumdulilah. Now i lost both my parents and a sister most recently my beutiful beloved mum last year ramadhan 2022.
There’s freedom of speech and there’s Islam. I’d be disappointed if Mahdi was cut off because he wasn’t given freedom of speech but if what he says is truly Unislamic and damaging for the Ummah then he should be cut out. We’d all like a reason
Why has mahdi been cut off?
We rarely see the father's side of the story
Because sadly enough the world doesn’t care about fathers.
Fathers have less rights than a dog u see current law on most western countries.
Facts
Excellent podcast! 🙏🏽
Big issue in Scotland, im a revert and my mum did this to me. Didnt get to live with father until almost 16.
Sorry to hear that bro,
O you who have believed, indeed, among your wives and your children are enemies to you, so beware of them. But if you pardon and overlook and forgive - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Quran 64:14
There should be a verse that tells us that parents are enemies as well.
Keep up the good work Ali
I knew Gul from a company I used to work for In Kegworth, East Midlands. Saddened to hear what he went through. All the best for the future Akhi
I’m in the same situation for the past 12 years. My ex says all sorts of things to my two children. But I have maintained until now that from my mouth not one word will come out anything bad about their mother. And I will not be fooled into doing anything that’s contrary to the Quran & sunnah Alhumdulillah.
It’s a pain but I be patient for the sake of allah. My kids they want to go and visit my parents that too has been prevented, they are now 14 years old they have seen my parents only once. There is only one thing I can do to my parents to make them smile is by them seeing my two kids at the 80+ age.
Sad thing is my ex is so called salafi and in her I’m not salafi enough. I’m not against salafis, but I’m against that cult salafi.
Co-parenting is just difficult, it’s always one parent that is bitter. Man can be as bitter sometimes and make coparents difficult. Like, some women want help but they don’t want to help because they don’t want to give the woman day off or pay child-support.
@Fortifier1021 It’s okay we can be balanced in our discussion. However I agree with you that if your first instinct is to deflect then you’re probably not listening.
@Fortifier1021 who said in person I don’t hold woman accountable if they do that. Problem with ppl like u on the internet, are apparently mind-readers and knew what I was thinking when writing that. I wasn’t scoring a point. Very negative
@Fortifier1021 Lol May Allah guide u.
@Fortifier1021 again May Allah guide you. Fear Allah on how you talk to others.
@Fortifier1021 thank you. I will reflect on my action and make dua for me that the fear increases.
These type of women would be the fuel to HELL fire
May Allah bless our brothers and sisters of ummah with Jannah ❤
Aameen summa Aameen ❤
Man vs woman. Woman vs man neverending saga. Why we cannot live in Peace? Ego? Anger? Selfishness? Narcissism? shaitan never sleeps. I'm really scary to marry🙍🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Sadly there are too many sisters out there who have been raised to get all that they can get through any means possible. Forget whether it is Islamically permissible or not. Forget that you could be violating the rights of a husband, forget that you could be earning the Wrath of Allah... it is as long as I hurt him and get what I want.
@Fortifier1021 totally man.
In the family court all sisters become atheist, along with their brothers and fathers.
Guess the religion is finally dying.
No doubt this was the best episode. To the point, intellectual and informative
As someone dealing with a similar situation I needed to hear this
At the start of the programme I thought brother Mehdi would be perfect for this podcast after I’d seen a video on his channel that he’s been through something like this.
Then towards the end of this video i caught a glimpse of him on the side.
Please can I ask why he wasn’t vocal in this podcast?
He admitted to beating his kid and wife which would make it look bad to have him on this podcast
Big up mahdi
Thank you brother Ali for reiterating the value of a womans role as a mother. If you can maybe do a talk so other brothers can see this value too.
My utmost respect for the sister in white hijab, the reflection, and the honesty I am in full admiration. Alhamdulilah for sisters like this .
Brothers know but women don't k ow the value of a man's role darling womne need to do better
In divorce & separation...sometimes the ex wife is a problem and sometimes it's the ex husband
You cut Mahdi...its aight this episode flopped anyways 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah man
Jazakallahkhair brother Ali. If possible can you do a similar topic where on one panel you bring the same women or women of the same age group vs elder women who went through divorce.
To compare how divorced women think when it's fresh to older women, whose kids have now grown and moved on with their lives.
What's 17 more years? I can always start again, have another kid!
What happened to Mahdi, he's got a unique delivery which is what most of the people here want to see??
I think he might have asked Ali to take him out of video. For legal reasons. Let’s be patient and understanding guys.
No, they don't
I guess the video shorter because Bro Mahdi was cut in it lol. Anyway, it was an interesting topic especially in the west and I pray and hope that people will learn from this. Thank you
We wanted to hear Mahdi’s view on this matter.
@Based Post 😂😂😂😂 you got dumped!! Hence your daddy issue syndromes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Babycake.I can tell ur one of those feminists that would withhold their kids to see their dad.
@Based Post who is we?
I think he might have asked Ali to take him out of video. For legal reasons. Let’s be patient and understanding guys.
@@civildiscourse7626 no we don’t he is a bad example.
What about the men who aren’t active in their children’s life after the divorce.. neither physically or financially.. and the mother has no choice but to go down the courts route to get what she needs as there is no support. Some men become bitter after the divorce and cannot differentiate between the children and the mother. Instead he runs away. I do not condone lying and would never keep the kids away from their father but fathers need to actually want to be fathers rather than acting like they want to and there’s no action behind their words
Most fathers end up in court to fight to see their children.
How did you end up in family court???
Was it to ensure he had contact??
@@disqualified_dads he refused to sign daycare papers so I can work .. accused me of tricking him to sign custody papers .. he also is not consistently providing any support for his children.. he hasn’t seen them in months .. he knows he can come see them anytime but would rather tell everyone since I’m going through the courts I’m trying to take his kids away from him and cut him off
@@Jewels347 sister there are good parents and bad parents, ultimately good and bad fathers/mothers.
It’s very sad he dosent spend time with his children, I hope for your children, he steps in and spends time with them.
@@disqualified_dads in shaa Allah .. I’ve left it in Allah’s hands.. I know Allah will handle it
@@Jewels347 ameen
They should change the name to MPSF to be more inclusive for both parents since that’s the goal.
No it’s women who take children and use them as ammunition againt the fathers-for the most part
This episode worked well because all parties almost had a direct experience related to the topic.
Great topic, thank you Ali Dawah.
Mahdi woulda been perfect for this considering he’s literally experienced it
i know but idk why he was there he didn't introduce himself or talk
@@fatchoumagharbi9939 pre recorded and he’s cut him out due to the reaction from the previous episode he was in
@@khabibsson7122 Submitted to the mob, yeah?
@@omairmuhammad6616 nah this cracked me up 😂😂
@Based Post women ☕
These episodes need to be longer akhi
These discussions will be much better when you bring Brother Mahdi back into the discussion. He is frankly the only one who isn't afraid to tell it how it is.
I think he might have asked Ali to take him out of video. For legal reasons. Let’s be patient and understanding. Inshallah all will be well.
What about father who gest access but refuse to make the effort to see the child and refuse to contribute financially towards the upbringing of the child
Such fathers obviously exist. But that does not take anything away from the point they are making. One truth does not negate the other.
Take him to the CSA
This is happening in Pakistan very badly, 😢
Can you do an episode about husbands with asian backgrounds who listens to their sisters and mothers when it comes to taking small or big decisions in life which is going to effect the marital life.
They do this instead of talking about things with their own wife and making decisions with her, it’s even when it comes to parenting, lifelong investment, where to settle ect ect.
Great video very important for people to watch this is a big problem.
Unfortunately, we are muslim by name only, we have beards and wear hijab because its a fashion, May Allah guide us all. Ameen
Yes In family court many hijabis, niqabis alimas, and also they’re practising families supporting them, in these games of power.
Subhana Allah. This is so Sad, do you know those children they need their father, period. It’s time to stop this nonsense
Well the only way you can stop it is to learn from other ppl
If u ever have to use ur children as ur weapon that means u have lost control and need help , for sake of the kids get help because ur kids will suffer . Children need both parents
I don't comment usually but when i see i jnjustices i do . Brother ali it appears you have invited br.Mahdi and took his right to say on the matter but also his face wasn't completely viewed. We demand an explanation as followers probably apologise for br.thx
Maybe because last time the sisters were upset so he is now pandering to them. This is the definition of simping no matter what Ali says.
This topic shouldn't even have to be addressed. If one fears Allah and follow Allahs law one wouldn't even dare to do any unjust to anyone. Be it a wife, husband , children ore neighbour. Be it a muslim ore non muslim. We have rights and obligations towards eachothers. This is very saddening and heartbreaking
I have learnt a lot from this episode may Allah bless you
This episode is amazing it is really concerning me
اللهم برك , one of the most productive topics, if not the most productive, you guys have discussed. The were things I never even knew and الحمد الله have now taken away with a beautiful perspective. May Allah bless the brothers and sisters on this show امين
Why bring mahdi if u gonna cut his views or experience he went thru
Some women keep their kids away from their father initially due to being bitter after a breakup, then after a while realise its too much work on their own and bring the father back into the picture.. Selfish really
Depends on their emotions. They know they can hurt fathers with their kids. One day the children will figure it out and begrudge the mother. What goes around comes around
These sorts of women need to understand fear ALLAH(SWT) or face dire consequences in the hearafter.
Bro... why did you cut out brother mahdi?????
Maybe because last time the sisters were upset so he is now pandering to them. This is the definition of simping no matter what Ali says
@@93boxing81 this is what mainstream media does . They dont want to hear real truth and only talk about women. Because of these Man are getting discriminated all over the world. This is tge reason why red pill exist.
I was agreeing with the first sister that spoke who coaches her clients until she said. "Even if there was abuse". Im not letting my daughter see a man that abused her mother.
That shows you didn't understand what she was saying. Abuse is such a plastic term that can be used in anyway you like. Many times people who accuse others of abuse fail to see that they too may be guilty of abuse. If there is potential of abuse from the father towards the daughter then there are options for safeguarding but to break a relationship completely is never right as children have a right to formulate an independant relationship with both parents.
@waqasamin7029 but she wasn't talking about accusations of abuse she said abuse. So that means if it did happen she would think its okay for the children to see that person
@@sherrygg6551 that's the point she's trying to make. even if the husband was a complete idiot and abusive but he was a good father to the children and there were no safeguarding risks, then as difficult as it is, the mother needs to facilitate a relationship with the father. If the father is a threat to the children then that's where safeguarding comes in and you put in steps to ensure children's safety but again that's a different point here from what this episode was about.
It's not your daughter alone.
@@waqasamin7029 being abusive to the mother of your children is a safeguarding issue.
Love this new show good discussions
I really wanted to hear brother Mahdi’s comments. Based on brother Ali’s response to Mahdi’s comment, i think all Mahdi’s comments were reasonable. I think it is rude deleting him like this.
Great work brothers and sisters . Lovely mature dialogue . In sha Allah it will help others who are in similar dilemmas
Never register a marriage as all that will happen is the guy is getting done over !!!!
registering a marriage makes no difference when you have children
Yes when you have children, under the childrens act many atrocities are carried out in family court.
I will NEVER give my daughter to a men who is not man enough to register the marraige.
"one lie can cause 2 countries to go to war" ...SubhanAllah, imagine Allah swt questioning you on the day of judgment for a lie that you made that effected so many people.
May Allah keep you smiling brother Ahmed and aid you in your work. I say that from the bottom and deepest depths of my heart.
May Allah unite you with those who you love.
Have you noticed that its very one sided, I am more curious about what his ex wife has to say for fairness and equality. Recently it has been proven people can say anything true or false we cannot verify it and therefore judgement should not be made.
The prophet (may peace be upon him) if you cannot say anything good, then remain silent.
Also Allah the all knowing states in the Quran s “O you who have faith! Avoid much suspicion. Indeed some suspicions are sins.” [Surah Hujurat:12]
Therefore this notion of passing a guilty verdict from the eyes of public is haram because it is a suspicion without prrof and should be stayed away.
Also “Certainly Allah has made sacred the blood, property and respect of a Muslim (from another Muslim) and he must not even entertain bad thoughts (about the other Muslim).”
Again talking negatively about people, muslims is not Jaiz, and definitely should not be public. If something bad has happened then it be dealt with accordingly to Sharia and/or the law of the land.
Kids should never be weaponised
You know men use these tactics too.
I absolutely loved this podcast god bless you all! I am not married nor have kids but this is a major eye opener for the future! A big piece was missing during this podcast which was Mahdi. I personally feel like he was a lot of knowledge regarding this topic and would’ve educated us a bit more. It would be disappointing if we couldn’t hear his output in a future episode/reupload. Allah bless you all 🤲
It's should be scary 😂 right.
Why was the third brother censored? I understand he says controversial things, but why invite him to the show, if he is to be censored anyways?
Wow Ali really simping for these girls so much that he edited Mehdi out. Why even bring him then ?
My mother and father divorced before I was 1 years old but I remember my father use to come to my mamas house having coffee with my grandmother no problem at all my mother never spoke bad about my dad at all
I see Mahdi there, why was his input cut out?
Excellent, really enjoyed this watch. Great format to the discussion and very well hosted by brother Ali. Spot on! Plz continue theese type of sit downs with other relevant subjects that need airing out publicly. A positive style of building bridges and preparing the next generation of Muslims to the straight path.