WHY DOES HER VIRGINITY MATTER? - EP 4 || BITTER TRUTH SHOW
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2023
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Quick question for woman who are calling men insecure for judging a woman by her past.
If you met a man for marriage and asked him “do you plan on getting a 2nd wife?” And he said yes!. Would you be totally ok with it and marry him? Hell no!’ Right?. It’s ok for you to reject him due to a halal thing he wants in future, but then go crazy when he rejects a woman for her haram past 🤦♂️. This is utter hypocrisy. The aim of the podcast is so men and woman understand each other Better.
And I’m not saying a woman who has a past can’t be better than a virgin.
@@iramaftab4 your supposed to marry a man without caring about his socioeconomic status only deen. Kapeesh
clearly it is two different things..
@@sabmolly your right. Because one is halal and one is haram. Thanks for proving his point without even trying.
@FBI-Federal Bureau of Investigation I literally said "partners" ,didn't side with women only
@FBI-Federal Bureau of Investigation are you even a Muslim? Because if so may Allah forgive you for judging me without even knowing anything 🙄
Action reaction, a guy who slept around DESERVES a woman who slept around. A guy who saved himself before marriage DESERVES a woman who saved herself before marriage.
Yes
Yes and I would add that if a man or woman who has committed zina is accepted by a virgin, then this is a gift from Allah. They shouldn't feel entitled to marry a virgin but hope and make d'ua that Allah will gift them a marriage with a virgin. If that's not what they get then it's to be expected.
Yes but sisters also like the player type, confident funny less likely to be Virgins, so it's uneven.
Remind me of the verse, for evil women are for evil men and good women are for good men.
This comment rationalizes the issue better than the whole 1 hour video
As a woman who is saving herself for marriage, I want a man exactly like me. I cannot marry someone who's been with other person.
Cuz you fair that he is emotionally still attached to his ex
To male point of veiw any girl has past she lost her emtion to her past
I totally agree with u
Then marry me I am virgin till birth.
Whats your name and how old are you by the way?
@The reflector rarely find one? How do you know that? It’s not rare to find a pious Muslim man especially if you live in a Muslim country. Also how is she comparing herself to a man? If she is a virgin woman, she has the right to expect a virgin man as her spouse if that’s what she wants. Please stop being misogynistic, when it comes to virginity men and women don’t differ, both should be virgins until they get married, it’s haram for BOTH to commit zina. Don’t make it seem like it’s okay if a man is not a virgin, but it’s not okay if a woman isn’t.
@@thereflector69are you mad?
“Women of purity are for men of purity, and men of purity are for women of purity” - Ayah 26 of Surah an-Nur
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Nah brother you got it wrong
That's why you should read qauran i. Arabic it was a bout words not women
Good men speak good word vi e versa
As a woman im shocked these women would be fine with a man who had such a past. Please don't assume we are all like this
Majority of women are wired this way,
You an EXCEPTION.
Why are you shocked? A man providing money for a woman is much more important that providing his purity
@@Ninapoles exactly this whole equality bs goes out the window once a virgin man stands in front of you and they call them names like incel and geeks, MUSLIM WOMAN so they need to quit the nonsense .
@@miamen2418 No majority are not this way and its the way it has to be ,we are pure women we are expecting a pure men
@@Blackcat55661 read what I said and then what you replied.... majority of girls aren’t virgins and traditional. Your an “exception” and it doesn’t make the rule . Majority does .
We should never Compare a divorcee to zina, it's not even in the same realm.
Nobody is comparing Divorce to zinah
Yeah 100%. Widows are 100% okay. Zina is filthy tho.
@@AbdulRahman-it1fv true
Absolutely
@@AbdulRahman-it1fv divorcees are okay too. The Prophet SAW married divorcees.
My prayers go out to the people of Turkey , Syria and Lebanon . May Allah protect them all during this difficult time . Ameen .
@@Ys212. it don’t matter bro
@@Ys212. 🤦🏽♂️
@Bird Eater i’m ok
@birdeater768 Hinduism though worshiping a human being Not Islam...
If you think Zakir Naik is God go to your religion Hinduism and worship him or cow or sun or cats or tree or anything else but don't spam here.
(if anybody else reading this then please report this guy as 'spam' and ignore these pagans).
Ameen
I am unmarried and virgin so i would also like to marry a man who is virgin also..if i have saved my self from haram then i also expect the same from my future husband..period
May Allah swt give you a good spouse. I am a chaste unmarried medical student in the US and I hope to make such a woman very happy one day soon InshAllah
Same as a chaste man I would want the same also
@@swavyhighlights2770 ofcourse, it is just a western thing that woman don't care about man's past....but in other world it goes on both way
I was exactly the same. When I met my husband and found out he was married before (which was a halal relationship) I cried and said no 3 times, but he kept coming back and begging me. Also because he was the only man to ever want to marry me for me not my citizenship (and he was an engineer, my secret wish because I'm a physics teacher and I wanted someone thinks the same way I do) eventually I caved. But what I always worried about is, were his other wives prettier than me? Were they better at satisfying him? When I shared that concern with him he said, "you all taste the same, but you bring stability to my heart, mind and home". When his relatives would meet me, they would tell him he doesn't deserve me, he would be the happiest man on Earth. He would come home and say thank you for being wonderful.
@@leilaabouzeenni3580 May Allah give you all happiness and patience which u deserve...and make things easy 4 u
Brother Ali
I think you forgot this ayah:
Surah an-Nur Ayah 26: “Good Women Are For Good Men”
“Women of purity are for men of purity, and men of purity are for women of purity” - Ayah 26 of Surah an-Nur mentions this wonderful line.
Of course he did, it's very unfortunate but most 'muslim' men these days look only to the parts of Islam that suit them
Beautiful wow, thank you akhi Jazak’Allahu Khayran
@@faaizahhayirli What does that have to do with this I’m confused
@@xXTheRoyalTurkXx looks like that comments been deleted 😬
@@faaizahhayirli Ohh haha 🤣🤣👍🏼👍🏼
It's not only "Her" virginity that matters, "His" virginity matters too. Sinners cannot pass judgement on other sinners. If men want virgin wives, they must be careful about their own chastity.
Men and voumen aren't the same genius men don't have hymen nor do men get impregnated by voumen
@@coolerthetyrant7923 For you, I would like to quote this Ayah: Surah An-Nur (24:26): "Corrupt women are for corrupt men, and corrupt men for corrupt women. Good women are for good men, and good men for good women. They are innocent of the calumnies people utter.There shall be forgiveness for them and a generous provision." Since this is an Islamic channel, discussions must be based on Islamic teachings. Your personal opinion is completely irrelevant and of zero value here.
@@hakunamatata3935 ❤👌
@Norbert no one likes a man sl u t. I'll never let my sister marry a man who been around the block, could be carry STD's and what not.
@@naviifra2374 not talking about Zinah Genius
His virginity matters too. As a girl who was a virgin getting married I would not even have considered a non virgin.
Bare minimum but at this point it’s impossible what it feels like to find a guy like that
@@mellovestodraw majority of unmarried Muslim men are virgins
@@guhhhh yes
yes
Not that unusual. Im not muslim and i found one. There’s at least one on that panel. You just have to look in the right place.
As a virgin woman I want a virgin man. I don’t know why this video is an hour long. Also Brother Ali please let sisters talk you keep cutting them off and not even trying to listen to them.
I’m 32 and virgin. I’m healthy I fast and focus on my goals. I have been working hard and now is the time to get married. I’m financially stable
The virginity of BOTH men and women are important. If you are not a virgin yourself, you should not expect to marry someone who is. There are brothers out there who sleep around but expect to marry a chaste woman. It works both ways. If you have repented, maybe someone who has repented too would be a better partner for you.
💯 spot on
Men and women who have a sinful past, you don't have to expose your past sin by disclosing about your past but if the man/woman trying to marry you has a requirement that they will not marry someone with a past then just don't marry that person. Simple. You don't have to hide your past just to get married. If you believe in Allah then depend on Allah. If you don't ever get married then accept that it is a test from Allah for a better afterlife. If you hide it just to marry a virgin who was expecting to get a virgin spouse then you are just deceiving that person and sinning even farther.
Women like u are a gem. This is what I was expecting the answer.... More respect to u. May ALLAH bless you and forgive ur sins and reward u abundantly.
@@mightyyusuke2387 Exactly brother.
nope, male virginity is not important, female virginity is protected whereas for men there is no such thing.
If you slept around before marriage you have to accept that your actions have consequences and if someone is willing to look past it should be grateful. But you should not feel entitled to the same treatment as someone who has saved themselves for marriage.
True,
Amen , brother. I aint paying mahr , gold, reducing my money for a women who has no respect for herself and want respect from me. It is not fair.
Best response to feminists
@@azmolhossain9244 I hope you keep that same energy when it comes to Top G's past then.
@@2ummis Top is not getting diamond, gold, mahrs , food , shelter and safety . Top g is going to provide those to his wife. Do you get it now. Top G is Top g.
This episode honestly saddened me so much... I am a convert Alhamdulilah and I come from a white background where all of the mentioned haram is normal and encouraged even. I have gotten rid of so many haram things in my life and now I'm hearing a brother say 'many revert marriages end up in a divorce during the first 5 years', which really hurt to be honest because when I wasn't muslim I couldn't have known what was haram and now it's going to be even harder for me to find a partner, let alone keep him... May Allah grant us all pious spouses so that we find peace
@@Lipanj92 I'm really sorry to hear that and I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I don't even have muslim friends near me and I'm unable to move as I don't have a stable job, I'm still half-dependant of my parents and they do not know I'm Muslim yet. So your story as much as it is eye-opening, it really doesn't help my case...
@@Lipanj92 of course sister, I am originally from Bosnia and Herzegovina (Banja luka is my hometown and my parents are there) and I moved alone to Belgrade, Serbia for college 4 years ago... I converted less than half a year ago and have no muslim friends in my city or nearby. I'm almost done with college insha'Allah so I'm going to look for a good job in my field so I can move to Sarajevo or somewhere further away where there are more Muslims.
@@Lipanj92 I was thinking about moving to Sarajevo as well as I am originally Bosnian so it might be a bit easier for me but the fact remains that I have to move out of Belgrade, it's too hard to be Muslim here...
Hvala ti, Allah te nagradio! ❤️
thank you. i was literally thinking this, because where does this then fall for us reverts ? does this also apply to us because it actually breaks my heart that we’d be held accountable for something we did BEFORE we were muslim :( i completely understand that it’ll emotionally impact them but for us to be rejected as choices for wives and to be told that our marriage will not be successful hurts
@@MelTheEditor123xxx May Allah bless you sister, as far as I know, the moment we took our shahada we were forgiven by Allah swt for everything we did before Islam came to us. We wont be blamed for it as we didn't know, but people will be people... I just hope Allah gives us spouses who will accept us as reverts to this beautiful faith ♥️
Im a divorcee with children. When I remarried, I married a man who was also a single father. It was a perfect match. We had similar experiences and I am a good mum to his children. Ironically though I wouldn't have been his familys' first choice, they would've preferred a young virgin. But the reasons that they wouldn't choose me are the reasons we work! I'm a good mum, I don't treat his children any different, because I'm already maternal and I don't see them as a threat, I see their needs. And I know how to please him because I'm not a complete novice! In Islam we are told marry like for like. And I've seen first hand that works and I've seen when divorced men/women marry Virgins it doesn't always work and there's sometimes (not always) heartache, jealousy and drama when more kids come along.
Sister, this conversation isn't for women like you who have done it halal and divorced. I would take a divorcee with children over a woman who has committed zina any day of the week.
@@tekkytekkers647 that's awesome 👍
@@tekkytekkers647 Yeah I understand. But in Islam if Allah has concealed her past, she doesn't have to reveal it to you.. So how would you know?? Also a man is forbidden from questioning a woman's chastity. -That's something basic in Islam that I learnt was unlawful from a pretty young age.. But now brothers are taking their advice from Andrew Tate instead of the Quran and Sunnah..
@@long_one5491 I'm sorry but she doesn't have to tell me directly but can tell me indirectly. There is no way I'm walking into a marriage thinking my wife is one way but she is the other. For example if I say I would prefer a virgin like myself she could politely say I don't think this will work.
@@long_one5491 Being truthful is a crucial aspect when utilizing religion, and there are ways to detect virginity, so nothing is truly hidden.
im 26 i never had a girlfriend before i never kissed a girl and im a virgin. I never smoked cigarettes shisha or drunk alcohol and im proud of my self. But thats why my future wife needs to be a virgin too. If i wasnt a virgin i couldnt and shouldnt expect a virgin wife.
May Allah reward you with a wife that will be the coolness of your eyes and make you a happy man in this life and the next Ameen
May allah reward you. But me as long as my future wife was and is chaste she does not need to be a virgin. I am only concerned that she has only been intimate through marriage only and is chaste. Im also ok if a woman has kids and or a widow But not kids and divorced only widow maybe not gonna try and find one like that but if allah brings that for me then ill accept it. But it would be nice to be married to a sister that is like me. But good job brother we proud of you man.
Don’t call yourself a virgin because you are not, you just simply don’t have any sexual experience. The term “virgin” is is exclusively used for women with unbroken hymen, you fell for the trap because women want us to think we are physiological the same 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Amina-vo8vk amin ecmain
Ma sha Allah and Alhumdulillah in this day and age such a pleasant personality....U will be rewarded your best just believe In Allah and its my prayer from my heart that "plz Allah don't put my this brother in any test in future regarding to his wife" ameen sum ameen
Brother Gabriel 👏👏👏
You were the star of the panel MashaAllah. May Allah reward you, Aameen.
I am a Slavic revert and I kept my virginity Alhamduliah.My parents are christians but they teach me to respect myself Alhamduliah.
you should feel special, good job and happy for you sister
Tabarak Allah
That's very rare. Respect
My Dad wasn’t even religious but he did not want ppl to talk trash about his daughters so he was very strict and told us very seriously to stay away from men.
Get married asap sister and only ever meet the guy supervised. Keep phones calls short and then on the day of your marriage you can be free with him and go on to enjoy meaningful sex alongside all else.
Ali, brother, it's understandable to have passion when having such discussions. Your style of speech works when there are confrontational people on speakers corner challenging you. However, you do have a habit of interrupting and speaking over other people trying to make a point. Please wait for someone to make a point or let people finish a conversation before bringing forward your point as you have a voice with a presence that demands attention. Thank you
righttttttttttt!
He could have ADHD and its hard to have a conversation with someone who has ADHD
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Yep.
agree!
I've lived my life without committing zina and I would 100% expect the same from my partner and yeah people can make mistakes and sin but at the end of the day committing zina will come with consequences
@@LearningWithMaryam The best way is to make the person (him/her) sit and listen , more and more with righteous and pious people(Men sit with pious men and women sit with pious women, ), this will automatically bring HAYA and honour in him/her VERY SOON IN SHA ALLAH
@@thewatcher7616 Wretched are those who openly spread deviance
Agreed 👍🏻 everyone is entitled to their opinion & standards. It's your right to ask questions & be asked questions, but you won't know if the person is truthful till later on.
@Bird Eater no. he's god's creation!
@Bird Eater no. he's god's creation!
I love these bitter truth shows because they are discussing what is happening all the time today but nobody is talking about it.
Respect to brother Gabriel for checking up on brother Dawud you have emotional intelligence and you picked up on brother Dawuds vibes mashAllah TabarakAllah.
I felt that.
Allah bless you all ameen
Brother Ali, please let the sisters and other brothers talk more, also, be open to what the sisters are saying rather than pressing your own view. Other than that, I enjoyed this discussion!
So true@
Brother Gabriel's demeanor when talking is what steals the show today. He speaks from a point of knowledge 👏
How is Halo saying you can't compare a man today to the Prophet SAW, yet expect women of today to be comfortable with polygamy like the the Prophets SAW wives? 🤷🏻♀️
They’re always like this
Bec the ruling of polygamy was not just on the prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam. It was permissible to every single Muslim man that is capable of being just. That's billions of Muslim men since then till now. BILLIONS.
The ruling of marrying up to 4 wives wasn't restricted to the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam..neither was the condition of allowing it based on how much you're like the prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam. Bec nobody can be like him. It is impossible
I'm a revert to Islam. Alhumdulilah, my husband still decided to marry me despite my past prior to Islam. I never went into detail with it but spoke in general terms and he has never asked me to elaborate. So, I would never tell him "Oh, when I dated so-and-so" or "I did this and that." I wanted him to know before he decided to propose but now that we're married, I never bring up my past again because I don't want to rub his nose in it or have him think of me differently. The way he sees me now is based on our 17-year marriage, Alhumdulilah. I'm glad that he gave me the chance despite our pasts being diametrically opposed, as he was perfectly chaste and from a culture where purity tends to be a dealbreaker, masha'Allah. Some men can see past it, though I think it's up to them just like it's up to women to decide what they want or will accept in a spouse. If a spouse with a past gets married, please be honest with each other up front but never bring it up again. But I accept that it does matter to many people. I don't think we should be disclosing our sins in detail but honestly is important when someone is selecting a spouse.
That's another fear , if a woman brings up her ex it would eat him away to eventually resenting her
As a virgin, I prefer to marry someone who also saved themselves until marriage.
For men, you can never around
Pls I want a second wife pls marry,, my first wife given me permission😊 I can as she is a working women she don't give me enough time 😢 so she will be okey if I married a second wife👰
The virginity of both men and women are important.
True but not equally important. Sexual promiscuity has a great impact on women as the stats have shown.
@@mk-ld8ih promiscuity for both sexes are haram and should be avoided .. but yes men and women look and feel about sex differently . That’s why men can have multiple wives whole women would rather have a man for themselves
In the eyes of Allah yes, but I am not Allah so therefore I look at the psychological effects of a promiscuous past in a woman and judge her that way. Let such women marry some other sucker who is a degenerate. But not the men who look for chastity & virginity in women.
@@awrjkf I can say the same thing for men. As a woman why would I want a man who sleeps around with random women and treats me with no respect or loyalty
@@fatmaaksu7659 But a woman who sleeps around has psychological effects on her in that she will be unable to pair-bond with her partner, she will be more unhappy in marriage, she will less feminine, not a good mother more rates of initiating divorce. But not the same for men. That's the difference. We are not the same. Allah made us different. Don't buy into that feminist crap about how we are equal biologically or psychologically.
I'm watching this rooting for both sides!! Really good and valid points.
can you tell me in what part of the video the the sisters made valid points
I like how Gabriel comes with facts from Quran, Sunnah and Hadith.
Who's gabriel?
If a man is not a virgin, he should not demand a virgin.
If a man is a virgin, he has every right in the whole world to demand a virgin.
the prophet married a virgin tho? and there is no ruling on what you said or is there?
@@aaa-ob3sn
Yeah but the Prophet's case is different, he married divorcees as well, but good point nonetheless. If people bring up "Prophet married divorcees!" you can go ahead and bring up "Prophet also married virgin(s)".
Subhanallah, you can clearly hear when someone talks with knowledge as opposed to someone who talks out of feelings and emotions. I think it is very important to always have at least one person who has a broader understanding of the Deen than the others. In this case, it is brother Gabriel who can correct others' mistakes. May Allah bless him and increase all of us in knowledge.
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Same remark I did
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God is a title referring to the Word of God!
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
YOU CANT'T BE SERIOUS!!! gold and silver are two metals, you asking me to treat them the same? each have its own value.
If a woman give you that, she gave you herself. NOT the same for man!!!
women chastity have huge value. Not because of society as you all say!!! it's because it has value in itself. It is among the characteristics of HOOR AL IYN!!! WHY DID ALLAH MENTIONED IT AS SUCH?!! WHY THERE IS PUNISHMENT FOR THE ONE WHO ACCUSES A WOMEN OF ZINA?!!!
it should be and stay very very important. not as you say we are wrong to think that. THAT's why we pay mahr. that's why non-muslims guys have hard time to get a girl to sleep with him. because IT HAS value. she wouldn't give it easily. why??
Zina hapens only when a girl gives green light. Otherwise never. or by force.
Also, men can do things without much emotion or passion but when a girl does it means something for them. It means a lot.
I can't believe i'm explaining this. What is the most important thing in a girl?....Is it the same as men?!!!!
I'm not saying don't forgive. But never ever assume or say or think its the same!!!
Ask yourself why prostitutes get paid for??
someone who slept around in haram (man or woman) will have different view of sex than someone who is virgin or divorced , they will not be satisfied with a muslim virgin anymore , as a woman i wouldn't marry a man who has a past , i wouldn't judge him but i dont want to be exposed to whatever filth he learned in his past life that can't be UNLEARNED . i don't want to pay for someone else's sins .
Exactly!
It’s very true. I would Advise the same. It’s hurtful finding out after marriage that the man you’re married had been up to all sorts and has no hayaa. Whatever he was exposed to will affect his future. He will want to see the same in you and you won’t have a clue. It’s not about giving them chance but it’s about being real.
Such a good way of thinking of it. I don't want to pay for someone else's very evil vile sins. May Allah protect you.
so ur reject a man for not being a virgin? sounds like bs to me.
Came across this video by accident. Very helpful and informative 🙏🏼 These are some of the brightest Muslim women I heard speaking.
Mashallah i really like this kind of discussions. keep doing it, you can change a lot of misunderstanding and the differences between men and women and how we return to fitra and fixed with Islam (the sunnah) we need to have mercy between us وَجَعَلَ بَيْنَكُم مَّوَدَّةً وَرَحْمَةً إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لَآيَاتٍ لِّقَوْمٍ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ "الروم 23"
I am saving myself for marriage, AND I want someone who has been saving themselves for marriage. THAT IS IT! If a man had a sinful past and he repented and is a good man now, he may as well accept someone equivalent to his past.
I AM NOT THAT! I DESERVE someone who has not concealed their past. EVEN the possibility of the mental trauma she might put on me later from her past experience. NOPE, I am not having that! Life is already EXTREMELY difficult enough.
💯 agreed. May Allah grant you a pious chaste wife
@@bilsid May Allah grant me a chaste man as well. Too many men out there who aren’t virgins
Your spouse is already chosen for you Regardless of what YOU want! You will end up with someone that Allah swt wants you to end up with, they may be virgin or non virgin so it's best to keep an open mind and Marry a good person
@@bilaltokhi7445 What you're saying is what is preordained by Allah for us. I get that but you have a fallacy here! You cannot just rely on preordained nature and not take "free will" into consideration as well. Allah already knows what will happen, I DO NOT. Let me use my intellect to make my future positive since I have a freewill.
If I keep on thinking "Allah may have chosen a person for me who has a promiscuous past given the situation/state of the world, hence I HAVE NOTHING on my part to avert that since ALLAH HAS PREORDAINED it". (Think of it this way, if someone is a nonmuslim and knows the punishment for the nonmuslims in the hereafter is Jahannam, they might just consider being a nonmuslim forever as they might think Allah PREORDAINED THEIR FATE to be nonmuslims to begin with, so why bother. "not realizing they have *freewill* to become a Muslim during their lifetime and prevent receiving the punishment")
I do not know who Allah has selected for me, but rest assured I will do my very best to find out the person who I will marry DOES NOT HAVE a past that I will inevitablty regret after marriage! Even after all my effort, if Allah still wanted me to have that fate in future, then surely it is what Allah wanted best for me! Your action makes THE difference, NOT only believing what is preordained.
AGREEE
I AM A WOMAN AND THOSE WOMEN ARE WEAK. HOW CAN YOU ACCEPT A NON VIRGIN MAN. I AM 31 AND STILL A VIRGIN DON'T WEAR THE HIJAB AND I ONLY WANT TO ACCEPT A VIRGIN MAN. I ALWAYS THINKS LIKE A MAN.
And are you proud of that? Just consider yourself with the boyzz at that point.
The buzzer to let anyone with a passionate point speak is very helpful🙌🏾
Helps the quality of the show
The woman carried this conversation. Well said.
They were calm, thoughtful and did not interrupt anyone.
Allahummabarik
They were constantly interrupting what did you watch
Women☕️
They were mostly illogical and were always interrupting. Especially the Plus Sizes Lady.
But may Allah bless them still.
Men who sleep around deserve women who sleep around. Women who don’t sleep around deserve men who don’t either
As a virgin [by choice 😎☝🏼] I want a virgin because I didn't contribute to the non virgin circle. What I mean by that is... I haven't slept with a woman then demanded a virgin. Because if you sleep with 1 then that's one less virgin for all of the other men. And it's not fair that a non virgin gets a virgin while the virgin gets the "left over's"
Im a 24 yo female who is a virgin. I will DIE with this virginity! I dont care! Even if I age out of my "peek value age" ill still have it of it protects my sanity and akhirah!
Sex dont even seem like all that anyway.
Jepp agree and thats the problem I think that some women say the past is her past, so take the bad deal left over women and make her happy.
actually there are enough virging women but women do end up with men who ARE LEFTOVERS
This came at the best time. I was tempted to commit such, but by ALLAH I never will in shaa ALLAH. JazakumALLAHU khayran to Brother Ali Dawah for warding me off this, may you get a share in that reward.
go workout in the gym that way you will get discipline get stronger mentally and physically.... because if you are tempted to commit such sin you are mentally weak work on it
@@sanane66543 Not everyone is qualified to give advice brother... the advice from RasooluLLAAHI SAW is simple, get married or fast.
@@CPTZK11 Learn more about islam before you say nonsense.... im not giving you advise on what i think im giving advisr on what Islam thinks:
Fulfilling the obligafions of three of the five pillars of Islam requires that Muslims be of sound health and fitness.
@@sanane66543 Bro you got schooled, its okay, dont be offended. Now you just using a straw man 😂😂😂😂
Brothers before marriage while getting to know the sister can simply state he is looking for someone who has no past as a statement without asking her anything. If she has a past, she will later tell you she doesn't want to continue getting to know you, and her past is still not exposed. Everyone maintains their dignity without being exposed.
exactly same goes for sisters just make clear you want a chaste person like yourself
Stare me with this excuse what digniti have a w#0re ? Non because this mentality of lets not Hurt w#0re , w#0re get groud and give thry body to another Men and laught in your face like this w#0re from video
What if marriage has already been discussed seriously? I have been worried about this but cannot ask obviously. This is a deal breaker for me
@@Matt-jc2mlyou frame it in a way that is respectful and dignified
THE AFRICAN MAN KNOWS MORE ABOUT ISLAM THEN ALI. ALI FOLLOWS CULTURE.
Yes black africa got bloodly occupated and enslaved by arabs
Man, I am thankful I live in Saudi Arabia, away from of this disgusting things people talk about, I am a sinner, but thinking about this is just so outwardly for me, may Allah help us all, and strengthen your beliefs and hearts and all of us on these tests.
A lot of stuff goes on in Saudi Arabia, it just happens under cover
Saudi Arabia!? who are you trying to fool!? you can get the filthiest things done in that country under the table it is becoming more open with the new rulers.
@@Musaiftekhar "Undercover" means it's not normal there
habib what are you talking about???
@@Musaiftekhar undercover mean minority and not been normalised
Great cast mashallah, black sister is very well-spoken, please get her on every podcast. Brother Dawud gave some very fair and interesting points. Please continue to allow sisters to speak JZK
Brother Gabriel you really are a wise man. Subhanallah!
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Just finishing praying and it really good especially while a hav in g a bipolar manic espisode….also my dad is visiting me and wants ch me pray Evan though he is an antiest
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you should invite syeikh into this conversation. If it's not you only came up with debate and debate is prohibited in Islam. Because debate is useless and spend time worthless.
You don't deserve chaste if you're not chaste
@@jacob4114 one directioners hate Islam? Interesting. Om? Manu? A Hindu trying to insult Islam? that's common thing for Hindus hate other religion especially Islam. But why did you name it "jacob" in your youtube username? Jacob is one of prophet in Islam or maybe you hiding behind Hindus but in reality you are Christian?
Unfortunately I've witnessed a man waste a woman's virginity with infidelity within just a few months of marriage. Parents please do your best to vet these men before giving your daughters away.
Lmao. Men have virginity too. Women's virginity isn't any different to man's in Islam.
He is in trouble
That's completely different. She never did Zina. He did. She is incomparable to someone that has done Zina.
It is still sadly a waste. she could have been married to a virgin. saying that most people are really bad a picking spouses. Men and women (non-practising) free mix with each other openly when is completely prohibited and sinful. they are the ones that complain that their marriage didn't last. Any practising Muslim could see it from a mile away.
@@shadowstorm5261 You are precisely right brother. Zina is a very very very vile evil sin and is not just "a past".
Exactly
I love how calmly the man in the suit talks
“God forgave me, who are you not to” Exactly, I am not the merciful, the righteous, the accepting, I am but a normal person who has preferences, I will take an untouched god fearing Woman over a touched god fearing Woman 💯
Exactly, these people don't understand that zina is not a small sin, its completely different, these people will remain with the label zaniya forever. and who even said that Allah has forgiven you? May Allah protect us and grant us chaste women.
Why is this an issue
Muslims aren't supposed to do adultery period.
Why is this even a discussion between genders, the fires of Hellfire won't discriminate between people so why should we.
Immune to zina gang
Exactly
@@raheem8155 same
Bcoz these types of modern voumen are hypocrite they run from taking accountability for their choices and make excuses to look like 🐄 but oppose halal polygamy like a hypocrite
interesting, ive seen this conversation between non muslim men and women but as a Muslim myself i've never acknowledged that this discussion can happen between us muslims because I just assumed that you would sleep with your partner after marriage but this made me realise that there are brothers and sister (may Allah swt forgive them) out there that have made this sin and this can still be a relevant topic in our community.
Because there are a lot of reverts. Many women and men are reverts who were unaware of the halal or haram aspects of their past. It's challenging for them to find suitable marriages. Repentance and developing a beautiful character, as exemplified by the companions and wives of the Prophet (pbuh) who were reverts, should be our focus.
Brother Gabriel is a gem of wisdom. I don't think he spoke as much as he could have.. He just has been respectful and mindful of others.. And tried to give others opportunity to speak, although I'm sure he has a lot more to say..
Not many parents will talk about these topics, so having access to these debates between Muslim sisters and brothers is really good for our Muslim community, especially the younger generation.
This debates are literally damaging. Here we have a Muslim brother defending a statement that women don't care about a man's promiscuous past and so forth. Just look at some of the comments and see the heated debates going on.
Subhanallah
No it is not good for you. These people are lying to you in the name of some god that does not exist. Your ancient, idiotic religious laws are making you stupid and blind to the real world. It is a shame, because it makes muslims look very very bad if these kind of videos are popular in your community. Shame on you all.
@@programferris1018 Yes you’re right.
@@SPDRM maybe true for non Muslims or Muslims who don't care much about the laws of modesty, Zina etc
Not true for men and women of honor and dignity. If you are a Muslim then stop applying non Muslim mentality to your Muslim brothers and sisters. I could also reverse the case for you by saying the girl with beauty can bend the rules of the man which we have witnessed happening a lot of times actually on how men get mesmerized and therefore start doing
it's an absolutely stupid format and rather vulgar. This "dawah" channel has now officially entered the realm of pure entertainment
What people fail to understand is that someone who sleeps around means that they will never be satisfied in a marriage. They've tasted varieties and now they're stuck with 1- they will never be happy.
When it comes to having past, ignorance is a bliss. Don’t share it cause once you do your husband/wife will NEVER forget it.
the one who has a past should feel ashamed and accept worldly consequences
Almost 1 million subscribers let's go.💪🏻
I like when the guy in the cap heard that the hadith wasn’t authentic, he didnt read it. I like the humility
plz in the next episode, don't interrupt each other and wait for everyone to finish and explain what they are saying. Thank you.
Btw love the episodes🤍🤍 May Allah guide us all.
And no phones 🤣
Subhanallah this was one of the best conversations between men and women. As woman myself I leaned so much I was not aware of. I realised how wrong I was judging men for their future. May Allah forgive me. The guest (may Allah reward for their effort) was all amazing. Better than the one Mahdi was in, I didn’t finish watching, I just couldn’t listen him talking.
Please invite more people like this who’s character are good so we can enjoy learn more.
Inspired by reading prophet's (pbuh) biography, I am ready to marry a woman older than or a divorcee. Only problem is my parents and the society at large, its a huge stone in the path of fulfilling this sunnah. Sometimes your own parents and family don't allow you to follow the deen because of their narrow and backward thinking. May Allah guide us.
I completely agree with you, brother! Thank you for bringing up such an important point. May Allah grant you strength and wisdom to navigate through such obstacles. The essence of Islam lies in our adherence to the Sunnah, and your commitment to marrying a woman older than you or a divorcee, inspired by the Prophet's (pbuh) biography, is a testament to your dedication to Islamic principles. I'm not ashamed to say that we should encourage that kind of mindset. While we do have choices, life's test often lies in aligning our choices with what Allah wants from us. If the Prophet (pbuh) urges us to follow his Sunnah, then it becomes our duty to do so.
Instead of advising people to hide their past from their partners, let's encourage both women and men to strive towards the society that the Prophet (pbuh) envisioned. I understand it might be a lot to ask for, but promoting acceptance of polygamy is a step towards realizing the Prophet's (pbuh) teachings. If, during his time, even the best women who truly deserved all the good accepted polygamy, we should strive to be open to it. It might be uncomfortable, but that discomfort that resists is often our own nafs.
If a man can love his wives equivalently or at least close to how the Prophet (pbuh) did, isn't that a blessing? Encouraging men and women to make choices that lead us closer to heaven should be our collective goal. Life is short, and it's a test. Allah chose us to be born in this world; therefore, we should strive to make it better, just as it was in the past.
Many women and men are reverts who were unaware of the halal or haram aspects of their past. It's challenging for them to find suitable marriages. Repentance and developing a beautiful character, as exemplified by the companions and wives of the Prophet (pbuh) who were reverts, should be our focus. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Follow my Sunnah," and it's in these teachings that we find the path to righteousness.
I have a suggestion to make the show less chaotic and more fruitful. Instead of offering a topic for discussion and having everyone state their opinion (takes a lot of time and people keep talking over each other), there should be a set of questions prepared before hand that people answer and based on their answers you can draw conclusions or ask them for further elaborate. I believe this will lessen the time where people overtalk each other and also lessen the time people take to fully explain their position (which sometimes goes off topic and you divert to other topics and waste time there). Great show btw may Allah reward you all for this.
@birdeater768 Hinduism though worshiping a human being Not Islam...
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@@griffin3189 Don't bother replying to these bots man...
@@griffin3189 don't reply to trolls. Report them for spamming.
@birdeater768 we muslims dont worship someone beside allah or idols like hindus and christans do
I agree. I hate when people over talk. If the person talk don't interrupt let them finish. Geez I can't even understand anyone is saying.
Am so happy to see brother Gabriel it's always a pleasure!
He’s the only one on the male side with logic
bruh hes a simp
Please invite the brother Gabriel back because He is very educated and can bring us the correct references as they relate to the topics. May Allah reward all of you
I'm so blessed and happy that both myself and my husband were virgins on our wedding night. The thought of having another partner has never and will never crossed my mind InshaAllah ❤
May Allah increase you in marriage and give you both lots of healthy children's.
@@orionemperor5319 shukriya, Alhamdullilah I have two beautiful daughters
@@anared1990Subhanallah! May Allah bless you with a strong son soon!
@@ulama7828 InshaAllah nothing would make me happier than another baby, but Alhamdullilah what ever my Allah gives me I'll be happy no matter what.
That's beautiful, glory be to allah. the qadr of allah subhana wa ta'ala
Is so crazy that something so obvious like a man caring about a woman's past and a woman caring about a man's future can be so true and yet rejected.
This is a filthyy statement as first it assumes and strips sense of shame from women that they don't care about a men's past. It's so crazy to me that nowadays there are guys here openly boasting they commit fornication and then have the gal to say that women desires them. Remember if you are a Muslim then NO women of honor and dignity would ever go near a man who slept around unless he repents and clears his mind of his past filthy lifestyle. Same goes for the man. It's crazy to me that yall even believe in this statement
Because Muslim woman cares about a man’s past not non Muslim woman
@@hijabmary4814 I am shocked at what is happening to these online Muslim communities at large. Wow just wow
@@programferris1018 huh ???
@@hijabmary4814 I was refereeing to many Muslim guys and non Muslims agreeing with such filthy statements like a man's past is not so important to the woman
It matters for both parties. In my view, a man and a woman both can hold their partners upto their standard. What I mean by this is that if you have been sleeping around, you shouldn't expect your future spouse to be a pure virgin. Same if you are a virgin, you have the right to decline purely because the other side had lost their virginity before marriage.
Converts should be given leeway. Allah knows best.
السلام لکم.
Great logic my bro
Simple explaination from Prophet PBUH : Forcing someone to marry that they disliked is an automatic forbidden.
Exactly brother. I'm 21 and I have saved myself from haram never even had a kiss forget about zina. While living in a modern society I'm burning from inside everyday. With all my self control and struggle at the time of marriage if a girl just says that's it's just her past forget about it it got nothing to do with me. It's between me and allah , she repented she is clear, there is no way I'm going to marry her. I would feel cheated and might fall into zina after marriage because you know in a few days it would be my past and she shouldn't worry about it🙄 I would too repent everyday
I disagree. Nothing wrong with a men wanting a virgin even if he is not one himself because it is literally not the same. I worked as a bouncer for 6 years and did commit Zina. I was not religious at all. But now that I am closer to the Deen, I don't see myself marrying a non virgin woman cause I have seen that side and it's dark.
@@sayeeed1303 well if you did zina and you repent then you should be having no problem with a girl who did it and repented later. It's hypocritical that you would feel otherwise. Just like you she can too become close to the deen.
Brother Ali I love you bro
I love how witty your are
“ I told you I was gonna shine”
Cracks me up badly😂😂
Ali don't tell me what to do, I want to watch this no matter what
Masha’Allah Tabarak’Allah • very good panel and definitely a productive idea for a podcast of this nature • a topic I’d like for you to discuss insha’Allah is sadly the racism between us Muslims within our unmah • from grandparents to parents to the young adults we are now •
Myself being a black revert I have experienced a world of good Muslims Alhamdulillah but nonetheless I have had my encounters with a few bad apple that I’d say just need to be more educated insha’Allah but this is a deep rooted issue which is shunned upon talking insha’Allah you guys being this to light so that we may rectify it in our hearts insha’Allah •
If a man wants to have a virgin wife, he 100% has the right to make dua for it and to accept or decline according to that. If a woman has a sexual past, and she feels regret, sincerely repents, and makes dua for a good husband and marriage, Allah will provide for her. In the end people usually get someone who is a reflection of themselves in some way. The best thing to do is to build yourself up and focus on Allah more than anything. If you do that, He will give you things you've never even dreamed of having. I find debates like this to be a complete waste of time..
💯💯💯
people that are alike should get married to each other.
A person who has committed a major sin is not like the one who has avoided it his whole life.
@@abzy3k1 He wasn't a Zany at all, He got married according to the laws of his time, Zina is not a light sin, stop acting like we have to forgive these vile women, a zaniya is a zaniya and should only ever marry another zany like her.
Beautifully said may Allah swt reward you
@@abzy3k1stop using Umar's name to justify these filthy things. He was not Muslim, n once he became Muslim, he immediately became the best of the best of sahaba. Bear the consequences of your actions
If you have made sincere tawbah and the person you are pursuing for marriage doesn’t directly ask if have commit zina then I believe that you don’t have to disclose it. But if the girl/ guy asks you directly then it’s their right to know to make the choice that is of their best interest and their future. It’s the right of a virgin person to want and prefer a virgin husband/ wife because they have saved themselves for such a long time. If you a commit a sin or do something wrong, then if acquired I think you should own up to the consequences.
you are amazing for this comment
@@mathew1812 thanks 🙂
Good points made in the conversation
Please make sure to listen to each other and not be inattentive, looking on the screen of your phone etc. Make sure you try to understand each other not only waiting for you to make your point.
May Allah bless all of you and make you role models for the Muslims of this generation ❤️
@birdeater768he is a human like me and you
@Bird Eater 768 Get a life.
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Exactly I found it very disrespectful and very rude of him.
“Don’t ask questions you can’t handle” is the most toxic saying ever.
Brothers 🔊Always ask the hard questions but be respectful & empathetic.
The key is how you go about it but go
@@SPDRM one‘s own sins are not to be exposed, they‘re between you and the creator. That‘s not hiding, thats how our deen works.
So in a scenario like this that’s the type of thing to be hidden :
Asking about the sister or brother's past is important. There was a divorced sister who had 12 year old girl. The sister got married to a good muslim man. After 6 months the sister finds out that her husband was accused of harassing young girls sexually multiple times. The sister confronted the husband and the husband said that "I have repented for my past mistakes"
My question is, Do you think after this scenario, the sister will trust her husband to be close to her 12 year old child despite his repentance?
Don’t use Islam to hide ur deviancy, lack of impulse control and perversions
@@Safiyah-wk2lnWhen questioning the past, only question the things that will affect us in the future (if anything will pop up later on and affect the relationship). Such as a Drug/Alcohol/Porn addiction, debt/legal cases/ past relationships if there is a kid involved, STI's or there is a chance the ex could get back into contact or vice versa. However if a potential had a relationship a while back, no kids, no diseases, nothing that could turn up in the future and the door has been shut completely and has repented, she/he doesn't have to reveal/expose it, in this scenario where it would not affect your future spouse or relationship in the future it is allowed to keep the sin hidden
@@efepuerthsi is just a w#0re excuse
Sisters, no matter what never ever give your purity to someone. We as man will always judge you by your past like you judge us by our future or present. If you have done something wrong in past never talk it, do not reveal it. If someone wants/loves you offer him marriage then you will know he is serious or not.
100%
same goes for guys, don't reveal your sins. keep it a secret and let her think you're her first. it's okay to lie to keep your spouse happy
So she shouldnt reveal her past to you? For all you know she effed 15 different guys. And there u are looking like an idiot thinking youre special or shes some good catch 🤷♂️
yea great advise lie to the guys to get into that marriage nothing can go wrong now can it.... truth always comes out and when it does the guy will never trust anything that girl says and the releationship will not continue 99% of the time. its a waste of everyones time women should be honest and if the man accepts her that way then 0 problems
no, slut is a slut.. damaged good is a damaged good..
Ali give the panel a chance to talk this is a talk show please learn the art of patience jazaakAllah Alhamdulillah
He's too hot-headed and unreasonable. He also seems to have ADHD. He isn't equipped for these talks
I LOVE THIS PODCAST I LEARNT A LOTTT ❤❤❤❤
@birdeater768 Hinduism though worshiping a human being Not Islam...
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As a English speaking Canadian straight white male muslim revert , I just want to say I love watching Ali ‘S videos
Salam from British Columbia
@@2016Islander salam from Toronto Ontario
Also it’s time for me to pray mashallah but I have 7 hours left to pray
@@Nihonbunkaotaku Did you end up praying?
@@alphauno6614 yes
great topic and perspective
Sister Amirah! We need to hear more from you!
Haven’t watched the video yet but let me drop something that might be helpful for those who are trying to advertise “I didn’t commit Zina and I deserve, I expect I this and I that ….” It’s not you, it’s Allah who protected you.
Try to see it from this perspective
True Ustaz
True but knowing that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t expect good because of all your efforts are of no worth or meaning why even try. If you have a masters degree you definitely should expect more than someone who has a high school diploma especially when you are hired by the same employee you’d protest of it is the other way around
Allah has definitely protected them from it, but they have also had a part and staying away from it. It is their taqwa of Allah that has made them fear falling into such a major sin, obviously with tawfeeq from Allah.
Facts. I don't take credit for holding out until marriage. Allah knows there were times where if the opportunity to do wrong presented itself I would have fallen. But Allah shielded me ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ
I would never ask Allah for "what I deserve".
(4:79) Whatever good happens to you is from Allah; and whatever misfortune smites you is because of your own action. We have sent you to mankind (O Muhammad!) as a Messenger, and Allah is sufficient as a witness.
Yes it is Allah who protected us, and we should now be cautious to APPRECIATE this blessing, not by marrying some vile zaniya but by marrying the chaste pure virgin women who also has bared a lot of patience in this twisted world we live in today, they are more deserving of us, Allah loves that which is pure.
I enjoyed the brothers and sisters who kept going back to Islam Islam Islam and the sunnah of the Prophet (s). This platform is what makes it worth while in comparison to the trash on fit and fresh. Keep up the good work, keep bringing these respectable muslim honorable women and the two brothers on the left MashaAllah.
It's like this .....most people say...."before you get married ...you should try everything and be wild"....but when the "show" is over....so is the magic
Brother Ali you should have me on your podcast. And also as a host, you should be giving your guests time to speak or you could do a monologue
I as woman did not want a spouse who was not virgin, not because they lacked piety, its just that if I kept myself away from men, I expect to have a virgin like myself. Non virgins are harder to please in theory. Like my husband says if you only tried one biryani, thats your favorite biryani but if tried variety you find hard to feel satisfied with that same biryani...
I was one who just cannot stand the idea, that many tried my husband out, and has memories of him physically...its off putting for me.
Its like thinking you bought a a brand new Ferari then finding out its a second hand and done allot of mileage....regardless of the amazing condition and still going strong. I know spouses are not products but I like to get the best deal...maybe its my psychological flawed thinking but I cannot get over it...better that I do not know.
If the persons was a convert then I find its ok they had a past, its understandable as they had no guidance, but if a born muslim in a muslim family done so, it matters to me, specially from a pakistani upbringing because about 98% of pakistani families whether in pakistan or uk are really conservative, very less liberal families even if less religious, they are still traditional and conservative and have extended families around so if they did something dodgy they were not ignorant or did not know. So my criteria varies depending on background.
I like the psychological discipline that comes maintaining virginity when there is soo much nudity out there, I values that and I want some who embodies that to lead me, as I am going place my life in hands and I want make sure he has good judgement in difficult circumstances.
I think exactly like you. I have respect for the men and women who've repented, a lot. But my own ego cannot Accept the fact my future husband (inshallah) been with someone else. I want a man who has kept himself pure just like me.
That's because you have sanity and izzat sister. It literally says good men are for good women so why settle for less?
Same girl!
@@dal.salvador personally as man it is not about ego or purity it the way I am hardwired. If I had someway to change it I would sometimes I don’t want to care but honestly I just cannot. It does not mean that it makes me see them differently or show any signs disrespect. To please a man is one of the easiest thing and for women I cannot say the same whether sexually or emotionally , from experience.
@@dal.salvador I hate to be that guy but your profile name causes fitna.
İt would be more great if everyone has the chance to talk without interruptions and I say that to both sides it's much better for the people who watch to understand may Allah bless you and you're families
@birdeater768 Hinduism though worshiping a human being Not Islam...
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It's somehow always convenient that the Sharia only cares about men's feelings but never about the women's.
Ali I gotta a question for you : if two men proposed to marry your daughter, one with a sinful past and the other with a clean past, whom would you choose?.
This could very well be a one person talk because nobody else was given a chance to talk.
The problem with this conversation is you made it about “virginity” instead of promiscuousness.
If a woman lost her virginity in a halal marriage than it shouldn’t matter to Muslim men. Even if they feel a certain way they need to ask themselves “am I going to reject this woman right now just because she did a halal thing, got married, and lawfully had sex with someone else?” Because sadly people in many Muslim cultures look at non-virgins as being tainted which is so sad for women who are windowed/ divorced due to unfortunate circumstances.
I have been asked before if I would marry a man who is divorced (no kids) and I have thought to myself “ehhhhhh” but fortunately people around me gave me great advice and made me question why I feel this way. The conclusion was I needed to fight these intrusive thoughts. obviously he lost his virginity in a halal marriage why would I penalise him for that.
Muslims need to seriously start thinking about how unhealthy our habits are for our society. It’s so horrible to make women who have lost virginity in previous marriages and god forbid even sexual assault feel like they are inferior.
It’s a really simple concept, don’t fault people for things that aren’t their fault. Putting a value on virginity effects all women not just those who has committed sins.
Also Ali saying that once a woman commits Zina he’ll never trust her even if she repents is so ridiculous considering he always talks about how he used to party and get girls???😂😂😂😂 that’s called hypocrisy and last time I checked that wasn’t what we were aspiring for as an ummah.
You answered your own question. It’s against our fitrah and we are repulsed by non-virgins, you are not. Stop including divorcees with widows under this trojan horse. The prophet encouraged us to marry virgins and widows - NOT divorcees.
“Don’t fault people for things that aren’t their fault.” So a female committing zina is not her fault, heck even a female getting divorced is not her fault? And don’t act like you’re talking about widows and gRAPE victims - as they’re a minority
committing adultery is entirely your fault and there are consequences including men not wanting to commit to you
@@highlightdaily4828 can you even read? I said not including Zina 🤦♀️.
And your comment is so dumb, how am I using them as a Trojan horse I literally pointed them out because I’m explaining to you how ultimately they are the ones effected by this dialogue.
And btw the prophet (saw) married a divorced woman so go have a talk to him about fitra. He obviously is able to separate his “fitra” from his morality. But maybe you think you are better than him. اعوذو بالله 😒
@@Jasel2892 You never made that distinction nowhere in your post, just seems like typical female dodging accountability, even for committing zina lmao. And the prophet literally married only ONE divorcee, and the reason behind that marriage was to abolish an unislamic arab tradition at that time - there’s a whole ayah about this in the Quran. The prophets sunnah is to marry a virgin, this seems to be really bothering you i wonder why hmm 🤔
I dont understand why these podcasts are so focus on issues on women’s mistakes (women’s past, boss babes , etc). Not saying any of these are right if a women do then but so far this podcasts focus so much on women’s faults and mistakes and never counting men accountable for issues that are happening committed by men .
It’s very common in the Muslim community lmao not just in this channel
It’s the red pill rubbish that has taken over the internet. Apparently men can do no wrong and women are the source of all evil. The fact that Muslims are being influenced by such nonsense is concerning. Even more so when they are trying to fit it into an Islamic framework. Islam is perfect and needs no addition.
@@sleepx3651 I know. But I can’t go around in every Muslim community just to point out the obvious. It’s an issue and it needs to be raised . I’m one oerson
Bcoz these type voumen are increasing day by day and instead of taking accountability for their wrongdoing they're making excuses to justified it like a hypocrite
@@farrazaed
Would you support your husband to do Sunnah of Prophet of doing polygamy ?
The fact that one has had a past is not the main reasons for divorce. Its hard to keep a marriage nowadays. Its many reasons why that is
Exactly there are so many reasons why marriages don't work 😢it's not just because of the past
I’m a woman and man’s past definitely matters to me. It would help me decided wether I consider him marriage material or not. If you have committed zinna then just accept the fact that someone people reject you
the problem is that many muslim men choose to lie about this so women should learn to divorce these liars because they took something very important and did not fear Allah
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Same matters with girls so get ready to be rejected
I am a woman, and I personally would refuse to marry a man that had intimacy with another woman, either through divorce, Zina, etc. No matter how good he is now, repentance etc, I just wouldn't be able to live with him for long, I'll keep imagining and overthinking and comparing and eventually we'll divorce. So these 4 girls saying they are fine with it doesn't generalise all women. I'd rather stay single, I can never never never marry a man that's not a virgin, it's extremely difficult for me. So to each their preference.
Alhamdulillah, there are still women like you out there. I was thinking to myself, does my past really don't matter to you? Why should I keep myself pure then, I can sleep with how many women I want and at the end I will get a woman who doesn't even care. I would marry women with your kind of thought process, who judges a man for his past. But that only applies to virgins.
Then ur brainwashed.
You will be single for ever and be with a nerd
@@Kingmasculinity21 May Allah guide us towards the straight path. May Allah help us perfect our manners and our tongues. The prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him, said to say good or be quiet. Why insult me?
Is it wrong for me to stop getting to know someone for marriage because he tells me he's a divorcee? Telling him that it's not him, it's me, like I just wouldn't be able to live with him a normal stress free life. Why am I brainwashed? Because I want his first and only experience to be with me? It's my preference, and so that's fine, is that Haram?
Btw I don't have Facebook, instagram, Tik Tok, etc, I don't watch movies or music, I don't wear a drop of makeup, in other words I am the furthest from following trends and pleasing society, my only concern is pleasing Allah. I am a loner on top of that, don't like crowds, don'ts have friends, and keep to myself and family. So not sure how I would be brainwashed? May Allah give us the ability to see right and follow it, and to see wrong and leave it.
My amazing Palestinian husband says I am so rare and so lucky to have found me. That in today's world it's so hard to find a women like me as he says. (Of course I am not perfect, no one is, but just want to illustrate how people insult other people without knowing a thing about them) Yes I am married lol, Allah blessed me with him, he's amazing, wallahi following Muhammad's peace and blessings be upon him teachings towards treating family and your wife, I am so lucky alhamdulilah.
Salam
@birdeater768 Hinduism though worshiping a human being Not Islam...
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Gosh the red jacket guy tormented by the possibility of future prospects lying about their past ... May Allah bless him with a pure wife with a righteous past ameen
أمين يا الله
yeah its a fear bro its an actual fear
He’s already married but yeah it is and should be a big concern for all
@@tn1495 thanks for the update I must have mistaken something he said in that regard.
@birdeater768 Hinduism though worshiping a human being Not Islam...
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I'm honestly shocked that the sisters are even debating this topic.
Allahu Musta'n
Pathetic performance from the men. Seriously. As a muslim man i will defend the honour of a muslim woman even if she was divorced 10 times. Stay strong sisters. May Allah reward you for your sacrifices and struggles and changing for the better.
Pathetic here is just you and this easy women Who try to find excuse.
no you are pathetic because youre hating on halal@@Zamolxes-eg5yv
@@hellokitty10117is no halal to be w#0re