sorry I'm a little behind finding this channel and by just watching this video alone I have to say all the rabbit holes of the Murdoch tragedy unnecessary massacre of his family... this is the channel this is the discussion everyone absolutely one-hundred-percent needs to watch to understand what really went down.... you have found a superfan in me I wish I'd found you earlier two weeks ago but I'm here now and here to stay thank you for your tireless effort!
I’m a South Carolinian of many generations and know some of the Murdaugh family but not well. This was a brilliant broadcast. I feel like I understand now and can at last make sense of this horrible family tragedy. So glad I stumbled upon your channel and look forward to supporting you and listening often. 😊
@@AHD2105 Nothing to do with 'money', its 'psychopathy', possibly partially drug induced. Just like with gun(s) people don't go out to kill people just because they own a gun(s). I've been around guns my entire life and never once though to take one of them and kill a person(s). Alex worked with a lot of other people who made good money but didn't go around using their money to control and manipulate people. We all have the opportunity to do harm to others. Guns, knives, baseball bats and so on are easy to be had here but the VAST majority of citizens don't misuse these items to injure or kill their fellow man. In NYC there are people who push their fellow New Yorkers onto the subway tracks ('3rd rail') but its not common either. Should we do away with subways, convert to riding horses, stop manufacturing knives and baseball bats ? And 'rise up' against what exactly ? Should we give away our money, throw it out, burn it ? Money is just a receipt for 'x number of hours worked'. Do you think that giving away what you've earned to a central person or committee, will end all corruption, theft and intimidation ? Money also causes 'competition',which is healthy and spurned on a country that is only several hundred years old to be one of the greatest (and I believe THE greatest) in world history. You have the right to say what you want or believe here so speak on, but if I were you, I'd maybe re-think the drivel you spout because it makes no sense. BTW, do you have a hatred for the USA, 'capitalism' or both ?
@@AHD2105 I’m also a South Carolinian and if you think that it’s only down south that these institutions and systems are corrupt and rigged, I’d encourage you to think again!
@@lindsayjwhite6352 So the whole country is corrupted. I'd believe that, especially when 1st world countries are tired of dealing with a violent and corrupt Whitehouse since Bush. Oh Except the last admin. He seemed to be more about getting enemy countries onside against China (and peace making as with Iran and Saudi). I guess elites wernt into him threatening their easy Chinese money deals. This leader is provoking wars for money instead. Now all ex alliances need to become independent, build new aliances and build our own nukes. Because this admin had never engaged any of the alliances in any moves he made. Which was a shocking. He is basically a totailarain making decisions off the top of his own (or its Xi) head for a whole country and affecting the whole world's stability. I think Xi has played the US at its own game, and bought this entire admin out along with Bigtech and major corporations. A Chinese run US, and who do you think China hate more than the Uyghur? 😬
stepping into crime is new for me. But you two offer such a different take & kind of dive deeper into every case, so grateful I found you both. Dr.John is a sensitive, deeply knowledgeable, eloquent thinker. We’re so blessed to have him. Lauren, you seem like the architect and creator of this channel, great show ❤
This was Fabulous as usual but doctor John was really really on point. I love his philosophy and and just the pure knowledge and genius that goes into his research and work. Doctor John really is the best!!
Has anyone considered a mechanical breakdown of the car? When I was a young child, my mother and I were at a railroad crossing in the country side. No barriers. She saw a freight train approaching, about 100 yards. Our car was relatively new with a big V8 engine. But this is the early 1960s and the cars of the 50’s were given to flooding and stalling when accelerating too fast. My mother stepped on the gas. The car jumped onto the track. And stalled. Just like Randolph I’s car is said to have done. Of course the private circumstances surrounding him which could have affected his state of mind fits with the generational shame thinking.
It's also been stated that Maggie had gone to Charleston to meet with a Divorce attorney just a week or so before she was murdered. So Paul brought the initial shame, but Maggie would bring bigger shame on Alec as well as discover all the fraud and LACK of money. What a train wreck !!
I'm an historian (Ph.D.) but also have a law degree. My historical research revealed pretty quickly that the Murdaugh family have been major folks in the area since ca 1840, not 1920. They were BIG plantation owners with lots of slaves, owned stores, sawmills, and other businesses. By 1850, a direct ancestor of this line was Federal AND State Clerk of Court there. Also other offices such as Justices of the Peace (like a Magistrate in a small local area today) and others. During the Civil War the men fought for the Confederacy, of course, but unlike most families they PROSPERED. They owned and invested in Blockade Runners, which were ENORMOUSLY profitable. It also allowed them to keep their money in hard gold and silver in "offshore" banks in the Bahamas, Bermuda, or Britain. After the war, they began picking up the properties of their neighbors for pittances. Through our Southern eyes, they were "home- grown carpetbaggers." They preyed on their neighbors' misfortunes. So, Randolph I may have lost a lot, but he was by no means the "founder" of the family's wealth and prominence in the area.
This perspective on the trial & family dynamics is amazing and shines a new light on this crazy chain of events of Alex… thanks for the deep dive coverage. I watch the trial and think the prosecutors are going to deep & not staying on track (aka loosing the jury), however this could be the angle. Thanks again!
This is so profound!!!! So many lightbulbs are going off for myself making so much sense as to my abusive childhood family dynamics!!!! I just can’t express deeply enough how much I am so grateful for this stream!!! Wow! Thank you!!!! I cut off ALL contact with my abusive family three years ago. I moved, changed all contact information and blocked them from all avenues. Healing is possible
@Monica Cordelia Horrors like this helps us be strong enough to leave, but also can trigger flashbacks, or activate "programmed recordings/responses" from our tormentors. My mom was the 2nd generation Narcissist, good at manipulating & "Sales", my mistake was running straight to another, to escape. But he was also a 2nd generation Narcissist. So my words of wisdom is find a person that believes your stories, I had therapists call me a liar & storyteller because they had lived such a charmed life, mine was inconceivable. Listen to the tape of Alex in Jail, nearly battering manipulation attempts on Buster, Every HUMAN must learn to recognize, and harden our personal armor and teach our children to understand, kind & gentle is only a weakness when the protective barriers of steel and other alloys have been dropped or destroyed. May none of us or humanity ever be touched by such evil again.
As a Southerner, I really doubted that you could understand how power operates in small Southern communities, but Dr. John actually got to the heart of it in his first few statements. I’m truly impressed with his insight into the psyche of powerful Southern dynasties.
Paul ultimately had embarrassed AM & the family image and myths. Maggie wanted out of the marriage /circus charade which further threaten AM’s deranged ego as this “perfect “couple. The impending “Boat Case” added further pressure plus the financial crimes were just the pilot light to ignite this massive explosion of double murder. Taking out Paul made one obvious problem go away in AM’s mind & whether Maggie was a necessary collateral damage or had to also be eliminated to cover his tracks, the demented rational is rooted in sociopathy & narcissism. It’s not a thought any healthy person could ever rationalize which is why AM thought he could get away with this heinous act.
It’s such a shame that none of this comes into court because it’s like no one can believe how he could kill his son but he is so cold and sees people as objects it’s not a stretch to believe it.
@@charsiu_808 it’s her testimony not hearsay she could have been a witness as to his character. The jury would find it very relevant as it shows his true nature Watch it. It’s utterly believable and chilling. It’s unkind of you to rubbish her when you’ve not even seen the clip.
Thank you for discussing Hakeem Pinckney! The media at large discusses the Satterfield sons, which is more than enough to show AM’s moral bankruptcy, but what happened in the Pinckney situation further solidifies how this man was more than a crook. He’s a monster 😢
That he stole millions from his accident claim clients , and Pinckney being a paraplegic was beyond demonic. Not to mention stealing millions from his family. Alex carried heavy secrets during his son, Paul ‘s entire life. The kid didn’t stand a chance between his father’s criminal mind set and addiction .
@@IzzyMariel I’ve been following via podcasts since the summer of ‘21. I just feel mainstream media has focused on Gloria Satterfield and Mallory Beach. They should also talk about the Pinckney theft.
Alex said he spent $40,000-$60,000 a week on prescription drugs on the street. That is somewhere between 1,300-2,000 pills a week. He’d be dead if he took that many. I think there is more to the story than we may ever know. I believe his grandfather or great grandfather was investigated for bootlegging in the low country. Such a powerful family, it seems they’ve gotten away with a lot because of their wealth. Also, for 100 years, there has been a Murdaugh in the solicitor’s office. So who would investigate or prosecute a Murdaugh….until now.
Of course that’s inflated. I would bet that’s the amount the forensic accountant could not account for ( the trail disappeared) and the defense wanted them to STOP digging so they claimed it was spent on drugs.
There is something else going on...i was addicted to pills never spent that much!! I didn't have to get them off the street I had a dr writing me scripts for all kinds of pills...there is another enterprise going on..thats too much money
Imagine the backlash from the community if Paul had gone to trial. Maybe AM thought he couldn't smooth that one over. I think Maggie was tired of being a Murdaugh.
Yes, Paul was hiding pain and needed therapy for sure. He knew stuff. He knew where his Dads drugs were. Familys of drug and alcohol could also be dicussed. Alec wasn't drug tested that night eighter.
Just a great show tonight. The most insightful discussion of this case I’ve heard. It explains the rage we see in the killing, if in fact Alec is guilty. With the boat crash and the exposure of his financial crimes, he was going to be exposed as a fraud himself, not the good guy many thought him to be and the person he needed to be seen as. He couldn’t bear that. Fascinating that in his corruption and rage he ends the dynasty.
This is a local jury. I’m sure they know the family history. Unfortunately, they could also possibly be intimidated by the family’s power…which they still have. That’s one of the reasons the investigation was so shoddy.
And the shame he feels now must be enormous! All his manipulations and underhandedness are being exposed not only to his community, but to the whole world!
It’s not over with his disgrace…We shall see-well not me-I’ll be dead and gone but maybe someone’s grandkids will run into some red headed potato lawyers in a few decades…
I think he saw he dynasty being ended by the 30 million dollar suit and criminal prosecution Paul brought on them with the boat crash. If he did do it,( and maybe he wouldn’t, but others in the family would) killing Paul ends that. Maggie may have been collateral damage, or maybe she got killed to inherit her property, to help pay for financial crimes that were already exposed. Also I heard ibexes Maggie didn’t want to sell some property Alex did, and maybe he doesn’t want it to get out of the “family”. Maybe Alex and Paul and Buster were rejected by the entire family, Alex is going down, paul was going to sink the whole family, Buster cheated and got kicked out of law school……. What if the rest of the family decided they all had to go…
If you had seen your son and wife or husband killed in the manner they were killed, would you be able to set with the cops right after and tell them what you did that day? I would be too devastated and probably in the hospital
☘️ Totally agree that AM was angry/ hateful towards Paul for several reason: 1- Blaming Paul for his 2019 inebriated 🚤 boat crash killing Mallory Beach that led to the beginning of the crumbling of the fictitious Murdaugh social & financial dynasty era. 2- Paul’s boat accident was the FIRST time in nearly a century when a Murdaugh’s truly faced REAL LEGAL, Societal, Reputational, & catastrophic Financial Accountability. 3-Paul’s nickname “Little Detective,” given to him by Maggie because Paul was assisting her in secretly scouting for illegal narcotics used & hidden by Alex., which was upsetting Maggie. Like many enthralled within the cumulative & massive twists & turns of this double murder; I have so many opinions, questions & issues relating to the Murdaugh Klan, their entitlements, their ever-increasing & compounding illegal incomprehensible behaviors & the conduct & trickery performed by Alex Murdaugh’s 2 Lead Defense Attorneys, both of whom should NOT be permitted to represent Alex because they are WITNESSES (possibly co-conspirators) with Alex…in at least some of his crimes. As reported today during the prosecution’s case when SLED Agent played & detailed Law Enforcement Officers’ 3rd interview with Alex’s that was arranged by these 2 defense attorneys directed, interrupted & actively put forth their statements as (false) facts & theory. Enjoyed your show as a 1st & future listener. Agree Alex has Narcissistic genes 🧬, which is likely familial. Appreciated your thoughts, theories & reminder as to the origins of Narcissism❣️
@@cristineconnell7803 according to researchers, our DNA contains more than just physical characteristics, we also inherit the effects of our ancestors’ traumas and resilience or lack thereof. It’s taught but also comes down through our bloodline.
@@trishbrennan9452 Which I have long called generational curses or blessings! And yes it does get wrought into our DNA. However people can make choices, & do not have to carry on dysfunctional family legacies! And curses can be broken! Have seen it happen!
Perfect----a train wreck. I hadn't heard this part of the story...as if this caper needed any more dimension. It is a tragic tale that you could not compose as a fiction. Thanks for your insightful commentary.
Your explanation of this generational shame and dysfunction makes 1000% sense. This is the closing for the prosecution. Everyone has been in search of a motive. You have better explained this today than I have heard anywhere. I hope the Prosecution sees/hears this video. I believe that Alex is guilty but I fear he will not be found guilty. Everyone feels dirty in that court room.
I agree. Honestly, picking apart the financial crimes during trial was tedious and felt weak as a motive on its own. But when Waters mentioned the family legacy in his closing, I thought, “ah, now it makes more sense…”
Dr. John… the prosecution should have invited you to be an expert witness. This is the only thing that can explain how it was possible for Alex to murder his family so viciously. Amazing insight, thank you both !!!
Alex wanted to clear Paul’s name…or, did he want to clear Paul’s guilt and not be liable. Isn’t that why he murdered him…greed and power? Obviously he was a pathological liar and I think also a psychopath.
Buster was mini Alec while Paul was mini Maggie. Alec resented Maggie sufficiently to completely forget pretending to grieve her, and that came on top of Paul exposing the family manipulation of power and getting between Alec and his pills.
There was a long-form interview on a local SC channel (FITSNEWS) with a sex worker who was hired by Alex at a party. He was very friendly until they got into a bedroom, but then violent with her to the point of almost killing her. She later found out he had a history of this. I have a feeling when Paul assaulted his girlfriend he was just acting like his Dad.
The housekeeper for Alec and the sitter for his ailing mother both testified against Alec with critical info. It took such bravery because if he wasn't convicted or even with conviction there are safety concerns for them
I wish this was admissible because her testimony is chilling He is a violent and cruel man quite different from the loving family man that they keep talking about.
Just found your channel at 46:31 I'm subscribed ! Dr John is the only person covering these horrific crimes that went deeper into the psychological and generational reasons. Thank you for making this make sense.
All they had to do was admit Paul was driving and it was an awful dui…let Paul take his lumps…but Alec could not do it…he wanted to get off free…delusional in my opinion. Alec brought his own family down by thinking he could avoid consequences for Paul’s behaviour.
He knew that the civil lawsuit would make him turn over all his financial documents.He couldn't let that happen, because his theft from his clients and other financial crimes would be exposed. So Paul became a liability he couldn't afford. Also, he wanted Maggie's beach house so he could sell it and she refused. She had other assets in her , an insurance policy that I read was increased to $12,000,000 before she died. A whole lot of motive for wanting them both gone. But, it didn't solve anything because the law office discovered what he had been up to and he was exposed anyway and allowed to resign but he lost his law license. His house of cards fell in on him. I sure hope the jury sees through him, he is slick!
He knew that the civil lawsuit would make him turn over all his financial documents.He couldn't let that happen, because his theft from his clients and other financial crimes would be exposed. So Paul became a liability he couldn't afford. Also, he wanted Maggie's beach house so he could sell it and she refused. She had other assets in her , an insurance policy that I read was increased to $12,000,000 before she died. A whole lot of motive for wanting them both gone. But, it didn't solve anything because the law office discovered what he had been up to and he was exposed anyway and allowed to resign but he lost his law license. His house of cards fell in on him. I sure hope the jury sees through him, he is slick!
He knew that the civil lawsuit would make him turn over all his financial documents.He couldn't let that happen, because his theft from his clients and other financial crimes would be exposed. So Paul became a liability he couldn't afford. Also, he wanted Maggie's beach house so he could sell it and she refused. She had other assets in her , an insurance policy that I read was increased to $12,000,000 before she died. A whole lot of motive for wanting them both gone. But, it didn't solve anything because the law office discovered what he had been up to and he was exposed anyway and allowed to resign but he lost his law license. His house of cards fell in on him. I sure hope the jury sees through him, he is slick!
Yes and we see this in Buster still trying to spill the narrative in the trial that he believed his brother Paul was innocent and not driving the boat. Buster is being a good ol boy, listening to daddy and protecting the family secrets. I honestly think AM thought he could murder and no one would question him due to the legacy and he'd buy time and maybe sell some properties. Let's not forget that right before the trial for Paul, the Mark Tinsley for the Mallory Beech case had a discussion with AM and stated if he influenced the outcome, he'd take Maggie and Paul and try it in another location. I believe this was also a day or two prior to the murders. AM may have been able to influence the outcome locally, but moved to another location, he'd literally have no power over it, and Mark Tinsley let him know he was willing to retry it elsewhere.
Stephan Smith👀👀😥😥 Such a good boy. I have a son just like Stephan and he is such a wonderful guy. It is so hard for me to talk about these things with him..i am terrified someone could hurt him in the same way. A mothers love. I would kill over mistreatment of my Stephan.😥
The whole family was loaded with narcissistic psychopathy! Either RM 2 or RM 3 put an “accidental” obituary in the newspaper for his wife in the 1970s…Supposedly as a threat to her because she’d caught him having an affair and she wasn’t happy about it. The fact that someone’s nickname is “Handsome” is stomach churning.
Alex knew the lawsuit once Paul was dead would be dropped. But then a new law suit started and they froze his assets. Moselle is under contract right now for $3.9 million. They will have to give that to Mallory’s family. I really think he stripped down got the blood off him went to the house and showered then left with those cloths and guns and hid them at his parents place. He killed his wife because she was going to have financial records done and it would of showed they were broke. He asked them to be at Moselle. He lured them there. He planned this whole thing. You can also go on RUclips and watch Murdaugh Murders Podcast.
@@carolabell77 so do I you follow the evidence and there is enough evidence. I was on a jury a couple times and it was very interesting. We could take notes. Then just last year we had a shooting a couple blocks away from me. The guy shot two people and one died. My dogs started barking at 2:00 a.m. I looked out my window and underneath the street light I watched a guy throw a gun into the sewer. Got a very good look at him. I had police walking in my yard a few hours later. I told them to look in the sewer. Next thing I knew I had two detectives talking to me. Showed my a bunch of pictures and I picked him out. Then I had to testify against him. The guy will be in his 80 before he gets out.
I read that Maggie had gone to a divorce lawyer a month before. Also, I think Murdaugh killed them then hosed himself down and changed clothes at the dog kennel. The dog caretaker testified that he had seen puddles of water further down from the dog cages a few hours after having cleaned them. The water from those cages would've dried up. Possibly destroyed his clothes, maybe buried them or brought them to his parents' home to get rid of them.
This is wonderful. I wish I could tell you how much sense this makes to me. I've struggled with believing Alec could do this. Now I get it. And I should have seen it from the first because I understand generational shame and secrets all too well. And I do now have compassion for Paul. He didn't stand a chance in that family. 😪
That was absolutely the most insightful and informative discussion about the Murdoch family, I have read and watched a lot about this family and now I think I understand the dynamics of this tragedy thanks to Dr. Johns insights.
Your research and explanation is bang on Doc!! Paul definitely brought a reproach and liability to their. “family name & corrupt dynasty” a major threat to the legacy. However the Irony is this very family’s myths actually created him & his behaviour. I also ponder to myself why Buster is so emotionless throughout this trial. No real expression. Just sayin 🤔
Thank you for the deep dive into the core dynamic at play. Question: Why do Alex's outbursts seem to be written off by so many investigators and the public when Alex says, "It's so bad. I did him so bad"' to the cops after the murder AND on the 911 call, when he says, "I've been up to it now. It's bad." Also before the EMS answer when he says, "Why did you have to get involved, Paul?" It seems like his own incriminating words have been largely ignored. Is this collective shame or denial or how do you explain it? Thanks!!
@@bethanywhite877 Paul texted his dad that they needed to talk in Edisto Beach because Maggie found 2 bottles of Alex's illegal drugs in his work bag one month before the double homicide. People are assuming that Paul either found more drugs or found out other incriminating things about his father because Alex called him "the little detective" and Paul had been clearly getting involved in these discussions. There were also pics and other clues that seem to imply either A's infidelity or at least marital issues.
@@firefly-glow thank you for helping me with that. On that video Paul and Maggie didn’t sound afraid which is so sad. They had no idea what was coming. When I heard Paul say hi dad it shows he was there. I so wish we could find the guns. His crime looks like he knew nothing about investigators and what they would look for. He isn’t ignorant so this is so perplexing to me. Leaving the phones behind. Maggie’s phone was on when he threw it. I think this a very spontaneous decision to kill them and in his shock and trauma he couldn’t think and this why he messed up so bad. I don’t understand him leaving the phones behind when he was deleting things on his phone. He knows how that works.
Dr. Matthias is on-point, insightful and very knowledgeable about this family's dynamics, while also being professional and even sympathetic to the impact all of this has on the younger generation Murdaughs. I can tell he knows more than he's saying and I give him credit for pausing to reflect before he speaks. He's a gem. I hope I can find more videos of him on this topic (signed... seriously obsessed with the fall of the Murdaugh Dynasty)
I consider myself a Critic , with a capital C when it comes to you tube channels. You two , John Lauren Mathias are as good as it goes. I ahve so many thoughts but have no time to spare atm. Excellent ! Please keep doing what youre doing , we need you out here !
I feel like the actual culture of the low south as a whole--the inherent traits of displaying charm, friendliness and generosity--contributes to the mystery around these crimes. The Murdaughs had many who I view as very good, likeable, credible friends and family, many of whom were lawyers or in law enforcement, who are all stepping up now and portraying how Alex Murdaugh had them fooled for so long. Murdaughs have gushed so much charm and generosity that people wouldn't consider or suspect them capable of atrocious acts. Murdaughs even had themselves fooled--"we're so well-loved by our friends and family that we are beyond reproach."
Thank you for so eloquently, and respectfully (though I saw it was a little difficult) weaving together, and explaining, all the behaviors of this family in a way those of us who have intently watched this case since the murders have been unable to do. Tonight you wrapped it up, and placed the big red bow on the behaviors of this family for us.
I think Alex murdered his wife because she was filing for divorce which was going to cost Alex lots of money & no one in his dynasty had divorced. Paul also was costing Alex lots of money by law suits filed regarding boat crash.
I agree that Paul and the accident and impending lawsuit were the final straws, however Buster being kicked out of law school for cheating could have contributed as well. And the fact that Alec was on drugs *all the time*.
Combined with his money laundering thefts were being uncovered at the same time! I don't think it was just the boating accident , but all of the above!
I'm suspicious about how Alec got in and out of rehab so fast with an alleged opioid addiction of 20 years. Celebrities do tend to go to "rehab" when they get in trouble, and then they get sympathy. Alec used people's sympathy to get the heat off him other times.
@@barbh1 I lost a brother to addiction and I agree with you. It's laughable that he kicked it in a few weeks. Plus, if Maggie and Paul were always searching for and taking his drugs....people have killed for less
@@cristineconnell7803 After all that power and control his entire life I imagine sitting there week in and week out being humiliated must be killing him...Good!!
Hi Lauren and John, I think not only the Murdaugh family is involved but some of the other people in power within the community. There are more involved here than just the Murdaugh's.
@@debijo5288 someone doesn't pull 192K of his own money to cover his buddy who is richer than him. also why did it take a year to crack Paul's phone- the passcode was his birthday-- how hard is that ?
Makes SO MUCH SENSE!!! Is that why Alex was visiting his dad a couple times a day?? Plotting probably? Wonder if Alex’s dad really died of natural causes… and maybe those guns are buried in his casket?!
Alex told Maggie’s sister when she asked him if he knew who could of done this..he replied “I don’t know but I think they planned it for a very long time.” I believe this is a personal admission . And after he killed them it brought Alex relief and some locus of control , which is why he was able to remain calm during the interview.
Ive learned a lot from the Murdaugh Murders podcast, they are journalists who live in that town which adds a lot of context to behavior. There are so many awful actors in that town; it's completely corrupt.
I think it took courage for Murdaugh Murders Podcast, FITSnews, Eric Bland, Justin Bamberg, etc., to talk about this starting shortly after the boat crash given they’re locals and had a lot to lose if you believe the things these people were capable of doing for generations.
@@missylearned9821 agreed. I'm happy they've gotten so much positive recognition and will be able to continue doing investigative journalism. Their research made a difference and got justice for Mallory and Gloria.
Yes and Many Matinee that started the Murdaugh Murder Podcast along with Liz Farrell used to work for Fits News. Speaking out to power when the power is still there can be dangerous to the people involved. Think about the power they had as solicitors to corruptly take care of any issue and sway the outcome where people were willing to be swayed.
Just excellent! I wish my mother and father were alive to hear this story. My family was very involved in CSX going back to the 20s and and probably knew of this SC scam law firm. How fascinating and hits close to home. I almost woke my husband to listen to this podcast. I will listen again tomorrow as we have both been glued to the Murdaugh case. Ironic that this story hits close to my family and the Kennedys (another “perfect” family of power) are also one that also that touched family. Talk about pageantry!! Thanks for all the research that makes this story go so much deeper for all of us.
The train story with CSX also intrigued me because our family had a business with the railroads too and CSX cars were used a lot. We were mostly eastern seaboard so def my dad and grandfather knew about this at some point.
Funny that you brought up the Kennedy's. I was just thinking of them tonight (comparing them to the Murdaughs) as how that nephew raped the young lady and got away with it, and the talk about how a Kennedy could get away with murder.
This is precisely why you two are the very best true crime duo. Of all the chatter about this case out there, this episode of HTC has been the most enlightening for me. I always appreciate Dr. Babe’s research and thoughtful insights.
My point all this time, Being a SC native, I've tried to explain this, the level of denial these families are capable of while defending their own, would seem impossible to anyone who's never seen it. This family has never had this problem before, meaning this many eyes on them! Alex did this so he and his family could snatch the power back to control the narrative BEHIND CLOSED DOORS! I understand ppl don't get this, but alex may have known his goose was cooked However he had every reason to believe if he could make him self another victim, he could regain the control to have this entire thing handled between himself and his friends and no one else would care. That is EXACTLY how they have always gotten what they want. Consider what the female from the firm said, its a Brotherhood, and as long as he got the money back, they'd let it go, this was the first time this man was not able to shake off the media, but even in something this big. HE ALMOST Succeeded!!!!! And ppl do not understand that, if media had pushed and sled had not gotten involved ALEX AND HIS FAMILY would have been the leading investigation on this scene! With nothing more powerful than a local police officer to contend with! The motivation here isn't that the bad shame ect they could est re write the story of how he got this way, by painting him a victim of "The big bad opioid crisis" and vigilantes in the boT crash, they can re write their history!!!! By saying he is not a perfect man, but black bla black he's paid more than anyone should have to... pay attention to not what u know but what he believes!!!
Thank you about describing Alex's tears. I just felt no emotion from them at all. I like to think I give people the benefit of the doubt but Alex's way he presents himself always made me feel uncomfortable or sometimes made me feel very angry. This helps me explain the feelings I get when watching him.
I too felt angered by what I considered his sorrowful act. I never saw Alex Murdaugh shed any actual tears. It seemed like he would smack his lips, work himself up to be red in the face with a runny nose to give the affect he thought was needed in the moment. I was also bothered by his excessive use of the "Mags" & "Paw-Paw" nicknames. That felt disingenuous. I questioned if his defense team thought that using the nicknames gave the impression that they were a tight knit family. Not a family that had dysfunction. I had also questioned whether or not the Murdaugh family had intergenerational issues with narcissistic personality disorder. I appreciate this podcast being one of the few that have explored the psychological background of the Murdaugh family. It's essential to understanding the motivation behind these tragic crimes.
I find it very hard to believe this was AM first violent outburst. Hitting and kicking and spitting on a woman? Wonder if Maggie didn’t endure some kind of physical abuse. Families can be very good at dismissing: stress at work or drunk crap. Great video!
Thought provoking, interesting, deep and mindfully compassionate this episode exceeded my expectations. Thank you so much for providing such a wonderful example of how intellect and heart can work side by side. You are both wonderful!
The civil trial for the boat crash was coming up and Alex would have to tell all his finacial dealings, properties, etc. He didn't want to do that, plus Maggie would know about what they really had. Where their marriage was having issues she would get half of everything in a divorce. Neighbors would also know what he didn't really have.
Was Alec feeling like trapped animal? Desperately trying to find a way out. Everything was to get exposed, the financial crimes, the drug addiction, his personal civil charges in the boat case.
How did AM’s law firm not catch on to the stealing for SO LONG? That is incomprehensible to me. I would not ever use that law firm or any of the senior partners.
I'll bet a few of them were in on it. It was probably just when it got out of control and they were personally affected that they suddenly were angry about it.
I noticed the case of the boat wreck in the news when it happened and I've followed the amazing developments ever since. I thought I'd heard just about everything about it all. Generational shame, the perfect family with sordid secrets, entrenched power through generations of litigation...I've just gotta say: Great work you two!
It's like the godfather effect. Paul had become a liability, the boat crash was yet another example of something to 'clean up'. Maggie was ready to settle, she wanted to start afresh. Alex is like the godfather who loves them but knows they are liabilities that need to be dealt with.
Buster was caught cheating in college and got thrown out. I don’t know whether his dad got him back in or not. I think his dad Spoiled Paul and his dad let him do what he wanted. He worked when he wanted . Dad was paying for everything. His dad did not want all of his finances out in the open. The attorney for the girl that was killed in the boat accident said that they were asking for disclosure of all his finances. And that after Paul and his moms death they kind of let it go. I think that is what he wanted to happen. Also Alec’s wife had some land with trees on it that was worth a lot of money. Plus, they were in the process of getting a divorce
I am from this county. You guys are exploring a depth the people here are still afraid to speak on. Even those who believe Alex committed these crimes. They still fear the family and those connected to the family.
very simple why Alex would NOT discuss why he did not look at his victims in the eye and lie, is because he is from of the jury and is looking them in the eye…he does not want them to think he is lying to them Folks, he has no shame nor does he have the inability to express it…this guy is strategic thinking here
My understanding of this family came from watching the video of Alex and Handsome going from one hospital room to another shifting blame onto injured people that they had previously claimed as friends.
Maybe "reminding" those people of some "facts", like he did with Blanca and Mashelly. He didn't do Paul any good by covering up his messes. He did him so bad that way.
Thank you so much. Very insightful take on this family and how they have come full circle. Great job. I have been following this trial from the beginning and it will be interesting to see what happens. If Alex didn’t do it, which I think he did, I believe he is the proximate cause of their death. He is pure evil. As Lauren said, May justice be served. With great power, comes great responsibility ✌🏻
Hallo from South Africa - also following the Murdaugh case and was this an eye opener - thanks. Could you please comment on the excuse Alec Murdaugh uses - his drug addiction that causes his paranoia which he seem to switch on and off as he or the occasion needs. Brilliant episode - thanks again
I’m not sure if y’all are aware, their other son, Buster, was expelled from law school (I believe for plagiarism). During Alex’s time in jail, Alex has been working on getting Buster reinstated into law school. 🤨
On a jail call, Alex told Buster that he gave a guy $10k to get Buster reinstated in USC University of South Carolina. Podcast Murdaugh Murders has the calls.
maybe get him into another law school. reminds me of the case of Edward Kennedy, kicked out of Harvard law for cheating, then turns up at the University of Virginia.
In listening to the jailhouse phone calls, I'm not sure that Buster even wants to go to law school. He doesn't seem that interested in doing what AM was telling him he needed to do to get back in.
How much has Alec use of opioids influence of the killing of his wife and child. If he is guilty? It’s almost impossible too understand this case for a Norwegian as l am. Guns in unlocked car!and around in houses !Is unbelievable.Likely the name “miss Libby ,,miss Meggie” let’s almost a scene from “gone with the wind. But here in Norway we have two murder in a year in the whole country.Most of it is mental health related. Best wishes from Norway.
Not sure if blocking Walmart and big box stores from building in the county is a bad thing- just an observation. As always Ms. Lauren and Dr. John knock it out the park with their critiques, in depth analysis and original arguments. Would love to have Dr John as a literature professor. He obviously has read extensively.
Hi!! I was looking for someone to explain the generational portion of this family which digs deeper into who this family is and was. I am hooked and a new subscriber!! Thanks for a great broadcast. 👍🏻
Omg I watch your podcast all the time and I feel you always have a good grasp of the Daybell case and others. However, I thought as Yankees, you will never get this southern case but Dr. John has a great diagnosis of the family. Probably the best I’ve heard yet. Too bad he wasn’t sought out as an expert witness on this generational shame.
Don't we all grow up knowing that personal injury lawyers are pariahs? 30-40% of a cut after expenses is too high and not well regulated. The ooing and ahhing over his former partners loveliness on the stand have shown me that humans will definitely replaced by AI. We fall to easy for a 2 dimensional one sided portrayal on tv. This podcast goes deep and I love it.
There is so many layers, and dynamics to this story. This puts so much context to what was going on. I can see completely the dysfunction how this blew up the way it did. Thank you for sharing more background to this story.
Crime is generational in AM's family since great grandfather Buster. Getting caught was an inevitability. Just too bad it took so long and resulted in so much tragedy for so many.
Can someone please explain to me why the defense seems so caught off guard by the prosecution’s presentation of the GM Suburban’s data today? I thought discovery works both ways? Am I wrong? What am I missing?
The examples of intergenerational family trauma outside of the Murdaugh family allowed me to feel that I have a firm understanding of how this creates dysfunction. Both Lauren and Dr. John get so deep into these concepts in every single episode, and I feel that I actually gain something by listening. I am going to become a member to support their work and all of the things that they generously share. Thanks so much.
Another thought no one seems to address.. not that it makes it ok..the man was addicted to opiiods for 20 Years!! Could be as simple as that when comig to memory loss, parinoiia and violent behavior. I am so frustrated with the prosecution. Of course he cannot remember what happened years ago, at the time he couldnt tell you what clothes he was wearing if he closed his eyes!!
Listening 2 replay. Hope u covered Defense attorney’s (‘Poot’)behavior today. Re: asking witness abt obtaining medical records. Frustrated and unprofessional. Ur thoughts?
sorry I'm a little behind finding this channel and by just watching this video alone I have to say all the rabbit holes of the Murdoch tragedy unnecessary massacre of his family... this is the channel this is the discussion everyone absolutely one-hundred-percent needs to watch to understand what really went down.... you have found a superfan in me I wish I'd found you earlier two weeks ago but I'm here now and here to stay thank you for your tireless effort!
Thank you Jerry! This means so much! We are glad you found us
I’m a South Carolinian of many generations and know some of the Murdaugh family but not well. This was a brilliant broadcast. I feel like I understand now and can at last make sense of this horrible family tragedy. So glad I stumbled upon your channel and look forward to supporting you and listening often. 😊
Wow, thank you Charles!
Ghastly system you are living in. Money rules and equals power. Be the first town in your county to rise up.
@@AHD2105 Nothing to do with 'money', its 'psychopathy', possibly partially drug induced. Just like with gun(s) people don't go out to kill people just because they own a gun(s). I've been around guns my entire life and never once though to take one of them and kill a person(s).
Alex worked with a lot of other people who made good money but didn't go around using their money to control and manipulate people. We all have the opportunity to do harm to others. Guns, knives, baseball bats and so on are easy to be had here but the VAST majority of citizens don't misuse these items to injure or kill their fellow man.
In NYC there are people who push their fellow New Yorkers onto the subway tracks ('3rd rail') but its not common either. Should we do away with subways, convert to riding horses, stop manufacturing knives and baseball bats ?
And 'rise up' against what exactly ? Should we give away our money, throw it out, burn it ? Money is just a receipt for 'x number of hours worked'. Do you think that giving away what you've earned to a central person or committee, will end all corruption, theft and intimidation ?
Money also causes 'competition',which is healthy and spurned on a country that is only several hundred years old to be one of the greatest (and I believe THE greatest) in world history.
You have the right to say what you want or believe here so speak on, but if I were you, I'd maybe re-think the drivel you spout because it makes no sense. BTW, do you have a hatred for the USA, 'capitalism' or both ?
@@AHD2105 I’m also a South Carolinian and if you think that it’s only down south that these institutions and systems are corrupt and rigged, I’d encourage you to think again!
@@lindsayjwhite6352 So the whole country is corrupted. I'd believe that, especially when 1st world countries are tired of dealing with a violent and corrupt Whitehouse since Bush. Oh Except the last admin. He seemed to be more about getting enemy countries onside against China (and peace making as with Iran and Saudi). I guess elites wernt into him threatening their easy Chinese money deals. This leader is provoking wars for money instead. Now all ex alliances need to become independent, build new aliances and build our own nukes. Because this admin had never engaged any of the alliances in any moves he made. Which was a shocking. He is basically a totailarain making decisions off the top of his own (or its Xi) head for a whole country and affecting the whole world's stability. I think Xi has played the US at its own game, and bought this entire admin out along with Bigtech and major corporations. A Chinese run US, and who do you think China hate more than the Uyghur? 😬
stepping into crime is new for me. But you two offer such a different take & kind of dive deeper into every case, so grateful I found you both. Dr.John is a sensitive, deeply knowledgeable, eloquent thinker. We’re so blessed to have him. Lauren, you seem like the architect and creator of this channel, great show ❤
This was Fabulous as usual but doctor John was really really on point. I love his philosophy and and just the pure knowledge and genius that goes into his research and work. Doctor John really is the best!!
Bringing new depth to the coverage of this case. 👍🏼
More to come!
He speaks at a good speed and gives fabulous research
Has anyone considered a mechanical breakdown of the car? When I was a young child, my mother and I were at a railroad crossing in the country side. No barriers. She saw a freight train approaching, about 100 yards. Our car was relatively new with a big V8 engine. But this is the early 1960s and the cars of the 50’s were given to flooding and stalling when accelerating too fast. My mother stepped on the gas. The car jumped onto the track. And stalled. Just like Randolph I’s car is said to have done. Of course the private circumstances surrounding him which could have affected his state of mind fits with the generational shame thinking.
I think with Paul though, his behavior was learned behavior his WHOLE life.
This trial/family reminds me of the Netflix, "House of Cards".
It's also been stated that Maggie had gone to Charleston to meet with a Divorce attorney just a week or so before she was murdered. So Paul brought the initial shame, but Maggie would bring bigger shame on Alec as well as discover all the fraud and LACK of money. What a train wreck !!
It seems that would be an easy thing to prove?
How many train accidents are there in those SC counties to maintain the extreme wealth of the Murdaughs for all those generations?
I'm an historian (Ph.D.) but also have a law degree. My historical research revealed pretty quickly that the Murdaugh family have been major folks in the area since ca 1840, not 1920. They were BIG plantation owners with lots of slaves, owned stores, sawmills, and other businesses. By 1850, a direct ancestor of this line was Federal AND State Clerk of Court there. Also other offices such as Justices of the Peace (like a Magistrate in a small local area today) and others. During the Civil War the men fought for the Confederacy, of course, but unlike most families they PROSPERED. They owned and invested in Blockade Runners, which were ENORMOUSLY profitable. It also allowed them to keep their money in hard gold and silver in "offshore" banks in the Bahamas, Bermuda, or Britain.
After the war, they began picking up the properties of their neighbors for pittances. Through our Southern eyes, they were "home- grown carpetbaggers." They preyed on their neighbors' misfortunes. So, Randolph I may have lost a lot, but he was by no means the "founder" of the family's wealth and prominence in the area.
This perspective on the trial & family dynamics is amazing and shines a new light on this crazy chain of events of Alex… thanks for the deep dive coverage. I watch the trial and think the prosecutors are going to deep & not staying on track (aka loosing the jury), however this could be the angle. Thanks again!
This is so profound!!!! So many lightbulbs are going off for myself making so much sense as to my abusive childhood family dynamics!!!! I just can’t express deeply enough how much I am so grateful for this stream!!! Wow! Thank you!!!! I cut off ALL contact with my abusive family three years ago. I moved, changed all contact information and blocked them from all avenues. Healing is possible
@Monica Cordelia Horrors like this helps us be strong enough to leave, but also can trigger flashbacks, or activate "programmed recordings/responses" from our tormentors. My mom was the 2nd generation Narcissist, good at manipulating & "Sales", my mistake was running straight to another, to escape. But he was also a 2nd generation Narcissist.
So my words of wisdom is find a person that believes your stories, I had therapists call me a liar & storyteller because they had lived such a charmed life, mine was inconceivable.
Listen to the tape of Alex in Jail, nearly battering manipulation attempts on Buster, Every HUMAN must learn to recognize, and harden our personal armor and teach our children to understand, kind & gentle is only a weakness when the protective barriers of steel and other alloys have been dropped or destroyed.
May none of us or humanity ever be touched by such evil again.
Good for you - you must be at peace now and calm - I blocked my immediate family it’s been 6 months not one word from anyone - SPEAKS VOLUMES
As a Southerner, I really doubted that you could understand how power operates in small Southern communities, but Dr. John actually got to the heart of it in his first few statements.
I’m truly impressed with his insight into the psyche of powerful Southern dynasties.
Remember Maggie's sister saying AM said "the person who did the murders thought about it for a long time"!
Yes!
And also made no mention of looking for those guilty of the double murder. Would definitely be highly suspect to me!
Paul ultimately had embarrassed AM & the family image and myths. Maggie wanted out of the marriage /circus charade which further threaten AM’s deranged ego as this “perfect “couple.
The impending “Boat Case” added further pressure plus the financial crimes were just the pilot light to ignite this massive explosion of double murder.
Taking out Paul made one obvious problem go away in AM’s mind & whether Maggie was a necessary collateral damage or had to also be eliminated to cover his tracks, the demented rational is rooted in sociopathy & narcissism. It’s not a thought any healthy person could ever rationalize which is why AM thought he could get away with this heinous act.
It’s such a shame that none of this comes into court because it’s like no one can believe how he could kill his son but he is so cold and sees people as objects it’s not a stretch to believe it.
It's all hearsay and probably not even true..attention seeking people come out of the woodwork..
@@charsiu_808 it’s her testimony not hearsay she could have been a witness as to his character. The jury would find it very relevant as it shows his true nature
Watch it. It’s utterly believable and chilling. It’s unkind of you to rubbish her when you’ve not even seen the clip.
Great job you guys did a lot of detail. Thank you.
Maybe in the closing argument they will pull it all together like that
I agree
Thank you for discussing Hakeem Pinckney! The media at large discusses the Satterfield sons, which is more than enough to show AM’s moral bankruptcy, but what happened in the Pinckney situation further solidifies how this man was more than a crook. He’s a monster 😢
That he stole millions from his accident claim clients , and Pinckney being a paraplegic was beyond demonic. Not to mention stealing millions from his family. Alex carried heavy secrets during his son, Paul ‘s entire life. The kid didn’t stand a chance between his father’s criminal mind set and addiction .
you must have just started following the case because there are a multitude of stories out there about Hakeem and the rest of his victims.
@@IzzyMariel I’ve been following via podcasts since the summer of ‘21. I just feel mainstream media has focused on Gloria Satterfield and Mallory Beach. They should also talk about the Pinckney theft.
@@MrMann77 Why Hakeem over Arthur? Or over Randy? Or over Deon, Jordan, Mary, Christopher, Jamian or Thomas and on and on and on?
@@MrMann77 I totally agree!
Alex said he spent $40,000-$60,000 a week on prescription drugs on the street. That is somewhere between 1,300-2,000 pills a week. He’d be dead if he took that many. I think there is more to the story than we may ever know. I believe his grandfather or great grandfather was investigated for bootlegging in the low country. Such a powerful family, it seems they’ve gotten away with a lot because of their wealth. Also, for 100 years, there has been a Murdaugh in the solicitor’s office. So who would investigate or prosecute a Murdaugh….until now.
Where the heck is the money bootleggers don’t do the crime for a hobby. How could he not have any money with all his criminal dealings? Where is it?
Of course that’s inflated. I would bet that’s the amount the forensic accountant could not account for ( the trail disappeared) and the defense wanted them to STOP digging so they claimed it was spent on drugs.
There is something else going on...i was addicted to pills never spent that much!! I didn't have to get them off the street I had a dr writing me scripts for all kinds of pills...there is another enterprise going on..thats too much money
@@Herewearenowentertainus the trail disappears bc THEY DONT WANT IT UNCOVERED
@@charsiu_808 it’s all about $$$ and power. It sounds like the family Ran the ENTIRE COUNTY!!
"Shame is an unspoken epidemic, the secret behind many forms of broken behavior." - Brené Brown
A very heartless family. Listen to the 911 call for Gloria. So rude & careless.
They would have been more upset if their pizza delivery was late than that poor old woman lying at the bottom of the stairs, dying
@@jayneanthony5652 You're so right!
Yeah! They are crazy for real! Regardless of what our culture celebrates, these people are animals!
Maggie was apathetic and then Paul gets on and sounds like a spoiled brat. He probably pushed her.
@@leonardemiletaylor6229 animals never act like that. These people are greedy and evil
Imagine the backlash from the community if Paul had gone to trial. Maybe AM thought he couldn't smooth that one over. I think Maggie was tired of being a Murdaugh.
Yes, Paul was hiding pain and needed therapy for sure. He knew stuff. He knew where his Dads drugs were. Familys of drug and alcohol could also be dicussed. Alec wasn't drug tested that night eighter.
Just a great show tonight. The most insightful discussion of this case I’ve heard. It explains the rage we see in the killing, if in fact Alec is guilty. With the boat crash and the exposure of his financial crimes, he was going to be exposed as a fraud himself, not the good guy many thought him to be and the person he needed to be seen as. He couldn’t bear that. Fascinating that in his corruption and rage he ends the dynasty.
This is a local jury. I’m sure they know the family history. Unfortunately, they could also possibly be intimidated by the family’s power…which they still have. That’s one of the reasons the investigation was so shoddy.
And the shame he feels now must be enormous! All his manipulations and underhandedness are being exposed not only to his community, but to the whole world!
It’s not over with his disgrace…We shall see-well not me-I’ll be dead and gone but maybe someone’s grandkids will run into some red headed potato lawyers in a few decades…
I think he saw he dynasty being ended by the 30 million dollar suit and criminal prosecution Paul brought on them with the boat crash. If he did do it,( and maybe he wouldn’t, but others in the family would) killing Paul ends that.
Maggie may have been collateral damage, or maybe she got killed to inherit her property, to help pay for financial crimes that were already exposed. Also I heard ibexes Maggie didn’t want to sell some property Alex did, and maybe he doesn’t want it to get out of the “family”.
Maybe Alex and Paul and Buster were rejected by the entire family, Alex is going down, paul was going to sink the whole family, Buster cheated and got kicked out of law school……. What if the rest of the family decided they all had to go…
The image or facade is everything, when they lose that they crumble, or explode!
If you had seen your son and wife or husband killed in the manner they were killed, would you be able to set with the cops right after and tell them what you did that day? I would be too devastated and probably in the hospital
Has anyone considered his motive was hate towards his son bc of the wreck and causing all of this to come up
☘️ Totally agree that AM was angry/ hateful towards Paul for several reason:
1- Blaming Paul for his 2019 inebriated 🚤 boat crash killing Mallory Beach that led to the beginning of the crumbling of the fictitious Murdaugh social & financial dynasty era.
2- Paul’s boat accident was the FIRST time in nearly a century when a Murdaugh’s truly faced REAL LEGAL, Societal, Reputational, & catastrophic Financial Accountability.
3-Paul’s nickname “Little Detective,” given to him by Maggie because Paul was assisting her in secretly scouting for illegal narcotics used & hidden by Alex., which was upsetting Maggie.
Like many enthralled within the cumulative & massive twists & turns of this double murder; I have so many opinions, questions & issues relating to the Murdaugh Klan, their entitlements, their ever-increasing & compounding illegal incomprehensible behaviors & the conduct & trickery performed by Alex Murdaugh’s 2 Lead Defense Attorneys, both of whom should NOT be permitted to represent Alex because they are WITNESSES (possibly co-conspirators) with Alex…in at least some of his crimes. As reported today during the prosecution’s case when SLED Agent played & detailed Law Enforcement Officers’ 3rd interview with Alex’s that was arranged by these 2 defense attorneys directed, interrupted & actively put forth their statements as (false) facts & theory.
Enjoyed your show as a 1st & future listener. Agree Alex has Narcissistic genes 🧬, which is likely familial. Appreciated your thoughts, theories & reminder as to the origins of Narcissism❣️
@@raelyneannelli6678 I believe it is taught not passed through the bloodline!
@@cristineconnell7803 according to researchers, our DNA contains more than just physical characteristics, we also inherit the effects of our ancestors’ traumas and resilience or lack thereof. It’s taught but also comes down through our bloodline.
@@trishbrennan9452 Which I have long called generational curses or blessings! And yes it does get wrought into our DNA. However people can make choices, & do not have to carry on dysfunctional family legacies! And curses can be broken! Have seen it happen!
@@cristineconnell7803 in psychology we call that nature vs nurture. Maybe a little of both.
The one thing I hate is that Alec keeps wanting to blame it on the drugs. The money wasn’t just going to his drugs. But where did it go?
Perfect----a train wreck. I hadn't heard this part of the story...as if this caper needed any more dimension. It is a tragic tale that you could not compose as a fiction.
Thanks for your insightful commentary.
And now the Murdaugh family is a train wreck.
Your explanation of this generational shame and dysfunction makes 1000% sense. This is the closing for the prosecution. Everyone has been in search of a motive. You have better explained this today than I have heard anywhere. I hope the Prosecution sees/hears this video. I believe that Alex is guilty but I fear he will not be found guilty. Everyone feels dirty in that court room.
I agree. Honestly, picking apart the financial crimes during trial was tedious and felt weak as a motive on its own. But when Waters mentioned the family legacy in his closing, I thought, “ah, now it makes more sense…”
Dr. John… the prosecution should have invited you to be an expert witness. This is the only thing that can explain how it was possible for Alex to murder his family so viciously. Amazing insight, thank you both !!!
Agreed. I’ve been watching the trial and the money crime motives doesn’t make as much sense as avoiding ego death
@@morganlafavers Yep agreed. I think his red face/tears/snot is frustration at powerlessness
Dr. John’s analysis is the only thing that makes sense to explain how AM could have murdered his wife and son. Kudos again.
Alex wanted to clear Paul’s name…or, did he want to clear Paul’s guilt and not be liable. Isn’t that why he murdered him…greed and power?
Obviously he was a pathological liar and I think also a psychopath.
Completely agreed🙏
Buster was mini Alec while Paul was mini Maggie. Alec resented Maggie sufficiently to completely forget pretending to grieve her, and that came on top of Paul exposing the family manipulation of power and getting between Alec and his pills.
His name is ALEX
@@susiepingleton3614 Yes but they pronounce it Alec, so there is that. Lol
@@cristineconnell7803 Nope. His middle name is Alexander. Media gets it wrong then some say Alec! Unreal!
@@susiepingleton3614 His family & friend's call him Alec. Hense why now everyone else is! They also say Murdaugh as Mur dock!
@@susiepingleton3614 Cristine is correct!
There was a long-form interview on a local SC channel (FITSNEWS) with a sex worker who was hired by Alex at a party. He was very friendly until they got into a bedroom, but then violent with her to the point of almost killing her. She later found out he had a history of this. I have a feeling when Paul assaulted his girlfriend he was just acting like his Dad.
It's a thought provoking video with the trafficked sex worker.
The housekeeper for Alec and the sitter for his ailing mother both testified against Alec with critical info. It took such bravery because if he wasn't convicted or even with conviction there are safety concerns for them
Link to story?
I wish this was admissible because her testimony is chilling
He is a violent and cruel man quite different from the loving family man that they keep talking about.
Oh wow, I hadn't heard anything about that yet, what happened? Is the gf alright, just wow.
Just found your channel at 46:31 I'm subscribed ! Dr John is the only person covering these horrific crimes that went deeper into the psychological and generational reasons. Thank you for making this make sense.
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All they had to do was admit Paul was driving and it was an awful dui…let Paul take his lumps…but Alec could not do it…he wanted to get off free…delusional in my opinion. Alec brought his own family down by thinking he could avoid consequences for Paul’s behaviour.
Alex had and still has a civil law suit against him and stands to pay 30.Million USD reimbursement to the Mallory Beach family!
He knew that the civil lawsuit would make him turn over all his financial documents.He couldn't let that happen, because his theft from his clients and other financial crimes would be exposed. So Paul became a liability he couldn't afford. Also, he wanted Maggie's beach house so he could sell it and she refused. She had other assets in her , an insurance policy that I read was increased to $12,000,000 before she died. A whole lot of motive for wanting them both gone. But, it didn't solve anything because the law office discovered what he had been up to and he was exposed anyway and allowed to resign but he lost his law license. His house of cards fell in on him. I sure hope the jury sees through him, he is slick!
He knew that the civil lawsuit would make him turn over all his financial documents.He couldn't let that happen, because his theft from his clients and other financial crimes would be exposed. So Paul became a liability he couldn't afford. Also, he wanted Maggie's beach house so he could sell it and she refused. She had other assets in her , an insurance policy that I read was increased to $12,000,000 before she died. A whole lot of motive for wanting them both gone. But, it didn't solve anything because the law office discovered what he had been up to and he was exposed anyway and allowed to resign but he lost his law license. His house of cards fell in on him. I sure hope the jury sees through him, he is slick!
He knew that the civil lawsuit would make him turn over all his financial documents.He couldn't let that happen, because his theft from his clients and other financial crimes would be exposed. So Paul became a liability he couldn't afford. Also, he wanted Maggie's beach house so he could sell it and she refused. She had other assets in her , an insurance policy that I read was increased to $12,000,000 before she died. A whole lot of motive for wanting them both gone. But, it didn't solve anything because the law office discovered what he had been up to and he was exposed anyway and allowed to resign but he lost his law license. His house of cards fell in on him. I sure hope the jury sees through him, he is slick!
Yes and we see this in Buster still trying to spill the narrative in the trial that he believed his brother Paul was innocent and not driving the boat. Buster is being a good ol boy, listening to daddy and protecting the family secrets. I honestly think AM thought he could murder and no one would question him due to the legacy and he'd buy time and maybe sell some properties. Let's not forget that right before the trial for Paul, the Mark Tinsley for the Mallory Beech case had a discussion with AM and stated if he influenced the outcome, he'd take Maggie and Paul and try it in another location. I believe this was also a day or two prior to the murders. AM may have been able to influence the outcome locally, but moved to another location, he'd literally have no power over it, and Mark Tinsley let him know he was willing to retry it elsewhere.
Stephan Smith👀👀😥😥 Such a good boy. I have a son just like Stephan and he is such a wonderful guy. It is so hard for me to talk about these things with him..i am terrified someone could hurt him in the same way. A mothers love. I would kill over mistreatment of my Stephan.😥
The whole family was loaded with narcissistic psychopathy! Either RM 2 or RM 3 put an “accidental” obituary in the newspaper for his wife in the 1970s…Supposedly as a threat to her because she’d caught him having an affair and she wasn’t happy about it. The fact that someone’s nickname is “Handsome” is stomach churning.
I read that also, that ‘III’ did that in response to her threatening to divorce.
Wow!
Alex knew the lawsuit once Paul was dead would be dropped. But then a new law suit started and they froze his assets. Moselle is under contract right now for $3.9 million. They will have to give that to Mallory’s family. I really think he stripped down got the blood off him went to the house and showered then left with those cloths and guns and hid them at his parents place. He killed his wife because she was going to have financial records done and it would of showed they were broke. He asked them to be at Moselle. He lured them there. He planned this whole thing. You can also go on RUclips and watch Murdaugh Murders Podcast.
Wish You were the jury foreman! Yes,. 🌴
@@carolabell77 so do I you follow the evidence and there is enough evidence. I was on a jury a couple times and it was very interesting. We could take notes. Then just last year we had a shooting a couple blocks away from me. The guy shot two people and one died. My dogs started barking at 2:00 a.m. I looked out my window and underneath the street light I watched a guy throw a gun into the sewer. Got a very good look at him. I had police walking in my yard a few hours later. I told them to look in the sewer. Next thing I knew I had two detectives talking to me. Showed my a bunch of pictures and I picked him out. Then I had to testify against him. The guy will be in his 80 before he gets out.
@@Jazz1959 Hi, You really have a special gift for seeing Truth!
@@carolabell77 Thank You! I always say the lies will catch up to you sooner or later.
I read that Maggie had gone to a divorce lawyer a month before. Also, I think Murdaugh killed them then hosed himself down and changed clothes at the dog kennel. The dog caretaker testified that he had seen puddles of water further down from the dog cages a few hours after having cleaned them. The water from those cages would've dried up. Possibly destroyed his clothes, maybe buried them or brought them to his parents' home to get rid of them.
This is wonderful. I wish I could tell you how much sense this makes to me. I've struggled with believing Alec could do this. Now I get it. And I should have seen it from the first because I understand generational shame and secrets all too well. And I do now have compassion for Paul. He didn't stand a chance in that family. 😪
That was absolutely the most insightful and informative discussion about the Murdoch family, I have read and watched a lot about this family and now I think I understand the dynamics of this tragedy thanks to Dr. Johns insights.
Your research and explanation is bang on Doc!!
Paul definitely brought a reproach and liability to their. “family name & corrupt dynasty” a major threat to the legacy.
However the Irony is this very family’s myths actually created him & his behaviour.
I also ponder to myself why Buster is so emotionless throughout this trial. No real expression. Just sayin 🤔
Thank you for the deep dive into the core dynamic at play. Question: Why do Alex's outbursts seem to be written off by so many investigators and the public when Alex says, "It's so bad. I did him so bad"' to the cops after the murder AND on the 911 call, when he says, "I've been up to it now. It's bad." Also before the EMS answer when he says, "Why did you have to get involved, Paul?" It seems like his own incriminating words have been largely ignored. Is this collective shame or denial or how do you explain it? Thanks!!
I wonder if he meant the boat crash or being a "little detective" as Maggie referred to Paul.
Both
I’m missing a piece here. What was Paul getting involved in? Was he threatening his dad with something?
@@bethanywhite877 Paul texted his dad that they needed to talk in Edisto Beach because Maggie found 2 bottles of Alex's illegal drugs in his work bag one month before the double homicide. People are assuming that Paul either found more drugs or found out other incriminating things about his father because Alex called him "the little detective" and Paul had been clearly getting involved in these discussions. There were also pics and other clues that seem to imply either A's infidelity or at least marital issues.
@@firefly-glow thank you for helping me with that. On that video Paul and Maggie didn’t sound afraid which is so sad. They had no idea what was coming. When I heard Paul say hi dad it shows he was there. I so wish we could find the guns. His crime looks like he knew nothing about investigators and what they would look for. He isn’t ignorant so this is so perplexing to me. Leaving the phones behind. Maggie’s phone was on when he threw it. I think this a very spontaneous decision to kill them and in his shock and trauma he couldn’t think and this why he messed up so bad. I don’t understand him leaving the phones behind when he was deleting things on his phone. He knows how that works.
Dr. Matthias is on-point, insightful and very knowledgeable about this family's dynamics, while also being professional and even sympathetic to the impact all of this has on the younger generation Murdaughs. I can tell he knows more than he's saying and I give him credit for pausing to reflect before he speaks. He's a gem. I hope I can find more videos of him on this topic (signed... seriously obsessed with the fall of the Murdaugh Dynasty)
I consider myself a Critic , with a capital C when it comes to you tube channels. You two , John Lauren Mathias are as good as it goes. I ahve so many thoughts but have no time to spare atm. Excellent ! Please keep doing what youre doing , we need you out here !
Wow, thank you!
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Very much agree..
Absolute genius-level breakdown of this case and answers the “why’s” that so many are contemplating. I could listen for hours. Fascinating psychology.
I was taking notes! Then I realized I wasn't going to be graded!
After Dr. John said Mallory's family and Hakeem's family can tell you what Alex's tears mean. MIC DROP 🎤. Wow!!!!!
I feel like the actual culture of the low south as a whole--the inherent traits of displaying charm, friendliness and generosity--contributes to the mystery around these crimes. The Murdaughs had many who I view as very good, likeable, credible friends and family, many of whom were lawyers or in law enforcement, who are all stepping up now and portraying how Alex Murdaugh had them fooled for so long. Murdaughs have gushed so much charm and generosity that people wouldn't consider or suspect them capable of atrocious acts. Murdaughs even had themselves fooled--"we're so well-loved by our friends and family that we are beyond reproach."
Thank you for so eloquently, and respectfully (though I saw it was a little difficult) weaving together, and explaining, all the behaviors of this family in a way those of us who have intently watched this case since the murders have been unable to do. Tonight you wrapped it up, and placed the big red bow on the behaviors of this family for us.
I think Alex murdered his wife because she was filing for divorce which was going to cost Alex lots of money & no one in his dynasty had divorced. Paul also was costing Alex lots of money by law suits filed regarding boat crash.
I agree that Paul and the accident and impending lawsuit were the final straws, however Buster being kicked out of law school for cheating could have contributed as well. And the fact that Alec was on drugs *all the time*.
Combined with his money laundering thefts were being uncovered at the same time! I don't think it was just the boating accident , but all of the above!
I'm suspicious about how Alec got in and out of rehab so fast with an alleged opioid addiction of 20 years. Celebrities do tend to go to "rehab" when they get in trouble, and then they get sympathy. Alec used people's sympathy to get the heat off him other times.
@@barbh1 👍 Yes
@@barbh1 I lost a brother to addiction and I agree with you. It's laughable that he kicked it in a few weeks. Plus, if Maggie and Paul were always searching for and taking his drugs....people have killed for less
@@cristineconnell7803 After all that power and control his entire life I imagine sitting there week in and week out being humiliated must be killing him...Good!!
Hi Lauren and John, I think not only the Murdaugh family is involved but some of the other people in power within the community. There are more involved here than just the Murdaugh's.
Good Luck Kay Woodcock! I’m behind you 110%!
Russell and ppl keep bringing up Chris Wilson.
I agree totally. Some things just don't add up.
@@debijo5288 someone doesn't pull 192K of his own money to cover his buddy who is richer than him. also why did it take a year to crack Paul's phone- the passcode was his birthday-- how hard is that ?
Makes SO MUCH SENSE!!! Is that why Alex was visiting his dad a couple times a day?? Plotting probably? Wonder if Alex’s dad really died of natural causes… and maybe those guns are buried in his casket?!
I’ve had that exact suspicion!
I think that family has a lot of dead bodies buried out on the Moselle property or out in swamps
@@jayneanthony5652 Now that would be so interesting to see !? Ancestors were probably even more brutal, if that could be imagined.
Alex told Maggie’s sister when she asked him if he knew who could of done this..he replied “I don’t know but I think they planned it for a very long time.” I believe this is a personal admission . And after he killed them it brought Alex relief and some locus of control , which is why he was able to remain calm during the interview.
IMO, I believe once Paul and Maggie were deceased, Randolph stopped fighting to live.
Ive learned a lot from the Murdaugh Murders podcast, they are journalists who live in that town which adds a lot of context to behavior. There are so many awful actors in that town; it's completely corrupt.
I think it took courage for Murdaugh Murders Podcast, FITSnews, Eric Bland, Justin Bamberg, etc., to talk about this starting shortly after the boat crash given they’re locals and had a lot to lose if you believe the things these people were capable of doing for generations.
@@missylearned9821 agreed. I'm happy they've gotten so much positive recognition and will be able to continue doing investigative journalism. Their research made a difference and got justice for Mallory and Gloria.
Yes and Many Matinee that started the Murdaugh Murder Podcast along with Liz Farrell used to work for Fits News. Speaking out to power when the power is still there can be dangerous to the people involved. Think about the power they had as solicitors to corruptly take care of any issue and sway the outcome where people were willing to be swayed.
Just excellent! I wish my mother and father were alive to hear this story. My family was very involved in CSX going back to the 20s and and probably knew of this SC scam law firm. How fascinating and hits close to home. I almost woke my husband to listen to this podcast. I will listen again tomorrow as we have both been glued to the Murdaugh case. Ironic that this story hits close to my family and the Kennedys (another “perfect” family of power) are also one that also that touched family. Talk about pageantry!! Thanks for all the research that makes this story go so much deeper for all of us.
The train story with CSX also intrigued me because our family had a business with the railroads too and CSX cars were used a lot. We were mostly eastern seaboard so def my dad and grandfather knew about this at some point.
Funny that you brought up the Kennedy's. I was just thinking of them tonight (comparing them to the Murdaughs) as how that nephew raped the young lady and got away with it, and the talk about how a Kennedy could get away with murder.
Definitely I am from Massachusetts and when I hear about Murdaughs I think of the Kennedy too
Alec ruined himself.
This is precisely why you two are the very best true crime duo. Of all the chatter about this case out there, this episode of HTC has been the most enlightening for me. I always appreciate Dr. Babe’s research and thoughtful insights.
My point all this time, Being a SC native, I've tried to explain this, the level of denial these families are capable of while defending their own, would seem impossible to anyone who's never seen it. This family has never had this problem before, meaning this many eyes on them! Alex did this so he and his family could snatch the power back to control the narrative BEHIND CLOSED DOORS! I understand ppl don't get this, but alex may have known his goose was cooked However he had every reason to believe if he could make him self another victim, he could regain the control to have this entire thing handled between himself and his friends and no one else would care. That is EXACTLY how they have always gotten what they want. Consider what the female from the firm said, its a Brotherhood, and as long as he got the money back, they'd let it go, this was the first time this man was not able to shake off the media, but even in something this big. HE ALMOST Succeeded!!!!! And ppl do not understand that, if media had pushed and sled had not gotten involved ALEX AND HIS FAMILY would have been the leading investigation on this scene! With nothing more powerful than a local police officer to contend with! The motivation here isn't that the bad shame ect they could est re write the story of how he got this way, by painting him a victim of "The big bad opioid crisis" and vigilantes in the boT crash, they can re write their history!!!! By saying he is not a perfect man, but black bla black he's paid more than anyone should have to... pay attention to not what u know but what he believes!!!
I think the feds should reopen some of their past court cases to see what happens 🧐. This ain’t the Murdaugh family’s first rodeo 🤨
Thank you about describing Alex's tears. I just felt no emotion from them at all. I like to think I give people the benefit of the doubt but Alex's way he presents himself always made me feel uncomfortable or sometimes made me feel very angry. This helps me explain the feelings I get when watching him.
I too felt angered by what I considered his sorrowful act. I never saw Alex Murdaugh shed any actual tears. It seemed like he would smack his lips, work himself up to be red in the face with a runny nose to give the affect he thought was needed in the moment.
I was also bothered by his excessive use of the "Mags" & "Paw-Paw" nicknames. That felt disingenuous. I questioned if his defense team thought that using the nicknames gave the impression that they were a tight knit family. Not a family that had dysfunction.
I had also questioned whether or not the Murdaugh family had intergenerational issues with narcissistic personality disorder. I appreciate this podcast being one of the few that have explored the psychological background of the Murdaugh family. It's essential to understanding the motivation behind these tragic crimes.
I find it very hard to believe this was AM first violent outburst. Hitting and kicking and spitting on a woman? Wonder if Maggie didn’t endure some kind of physical abuse. Families can be very good at dismissing: stress at work or drunk crap. Great video!
You might want to listen to the Lindsay Edwards interview with Fit News.
@@EP-xu1yt wow😳. This poor woman. AM is a dark soul and jaded as it sounds, this doesn’t surprise me. Thank you for the suggested video. Eye opening.
Well they apparently shot every animal that dared move on their property…The animal lives were casual casualties…to these heartless men.
And, killed the hogs with knives. Disgusting.
@@EP-xu1yt disgusting and cruel. Dark souls imo.
Wow, Dr John is rocking tonight. Amazing analysis. ❤️
Thought provoking, interesting, deep and mindfully compassionate this episode exceeded my expectations. Thank you so much for providing such a wonderful example of how intellect and heart can work side by side. You are both wonderful!
Don't forget that Maggie Murdaugh spoke with a Charleston divorce lawyer 6 weeks before she and Paul were murdered....
The civil trial for the boat crash was coming up and Alex would have to tell all his finacial dealings, properties, etc. He didn't want to do that, plus Maggie would know about what they really had. Where their marriage was having issues she would get half of everything in a divorce. Neighbors would also know what he didn't really have.
Strong motive for what he did. Where did nine million go? Gambling or Mozelle? Does anyone know, he couldn't have blown all that on his D habit!
@@carolabell77 I highly doubt it, he had been moving & hiding assets for years, but especially as things started falling apart!
Well, why did not Alex kill himself as well? If he had any shame he would.
Was Alec feeling like trapped animal? Desperately trying to find a way out. Everything was to get exposed, the financial crimes, the drug addiction, his personal civil charges in the boat case.
Great analogy
Yes his house of cards was quickly crumbling.,..
ALEX not ALEC
How did AM’s law firm not catch on to the stealing for SO LONG? That is incomprehensible to me. I would not ever use that law firm or any of the senior partners.
I'll bet a few of them were in on it. It was probably just when it got out of control and they were personally affected that they suddenly were angry about it.
@@flenzy Who knows. They all claim incense.
I noticed the case of the boat wreck in the news when it happened and I've followed the amazing developments ever since. I thought I'd heard just about everything about it all. Generational shame, the perfect family with sordid secrets, entrenched power through generations of litigation...I've just gotta say: Great work you two!
It's like the godfather effect. Paul had become a liability, the boat crash was yet another example of something to 'clean up'. Maggie was ready to settle, she wanted to start afresh. Alex is like the godfather who loves them but knows they are liabilities that need to be dealt with.
Dr John, I am impressed with your understanding of family trauma and disfunctional families.
Amazing episode. Dr. John , you never cease to amaze me with your intelligence! I wish the prosecution would hear this!!!!
Lauren you look stunning tonight. As always! Your hair is beautiful ❤ I look so forward to your lives ❤
Buster was caught cheating in college and got thrown out. I don’t know whether his dad got him back in or not. I think his dad Spoiled Paul and his dad let him do what he wanted. He worked when he wanted . Dad was paying for everything. His dad did not want all of his finances out in the open. The attorney for the girl that was killed in the boat accident said that they were asking for disclosure of all his finances. And that after Paul and his moms death they kind of let it go. I think that is what he wanted to happen. Also Alec’s wife had some land with trees on it that was worth a lot of money. Plus, they were in the process of getting a divorce
I am from this county. You guys are exploring a depth the people here are still afraid to speak on. Even those who believe Alex committed these crimes. They still fear the family and those connected to the family.
very simple why Alex would NOT discuss why he did not look at his victims in the eye and lie, is because he is from of the jury and is looking them in the eye…he does not want them to think he is lying to them
Folks, he has no shame nor does he have the inability to express it…this guy is strategic thinking here
My understanding of this family came from watching the video of Alex and Handsome going from one hospital room to another shifting blame onto injured people that they had previously claimed as friends.
Maybe "reminding" those people of some "facts", like he did with Blanca and Mashelly. He didn't do Paul any good by covering up his messes. He did him so bad that way.
Where can I watch that video ???
@@lindyhawthorne2164 HBO max has a 3 part documentary and that footage is in it.
@@blaineholland9506 thank you but I am in Australia so cant get that unfortunately.
@@cmlinehan Ive had a look but cant find anything about the hospital goings on.
I believe AM hadn’t killed Buster just so he could continue the family legacy.
Thank you so much. Very insightful take on this family and how they have come full circle. Great job. I have been following this trial from the beginning and it will be interesting to see what happens. If Alex didn’t do it, which I think he did, I believe he is the proximate cause of their death. He is pure evil. As Lauren said, May justice be served. With great power, comes great responsibility ✌🏻
Hallo from South Africa - also following the Murdaugh case and was this an eye opener - thanks. Could you please comment on the excuse Alec Murdaugh uses - his drug addiction that causes his paranoia which he seem to switch on and off as he or the occasion needs. Brilliant episode - thanks again
Why do people make mean comments about other people (commenting on someone’s appearance). Lauren is beautiful.
I’m not sure if y’all are aware, their other son, Buster, was expelled from law school (I believe for plagiarism). During Alex’s time in jail, Alex has been working on getting Buster reinstated into law school. 🤨
On a jail call, Alex told Buster that he gave a guy $10k to get Buster reinstated in USC University of South Carolina. Podcast Murdaugh Murders has the calls.
maybe get him into another law school. reminds me of the case of Edward Kennedy, kicked out of Harvard law for cheating, then turns up at the University of Virginia.
Supposedly Buster was involved with the late Stephen Smith.
Sounds like instead of law school, Buster is going to have a long lucrative career at Wild Wings, his "little part-time job."
In listening to the jailhouse phone calls, I'm not sure that Buster even wants to go to law school. He doesn't seem that interested in doing what AM was telling him he needed to do to get back in.
New subscriber from Australia. Thanks for your excellent, in depth non- sensationalised treatment of this case.
Why not ask him if the pills he was on could have caused him to commit the murders without him remembering it.
To Kay Woodcock and your husband: I wish you the best, my heart and prayers are with you.
How much has Alec use of opioids influence of the killing of his wife and child. If he is guilty? It’s almost impossible too understand this case for a Norwegian as l am.
Guns in unlocked car!and around in houses !Is unbelievable.Likely the name “miss Libby ,,miss Meggie” let’s almost a scene from “gone with the wind.
But here in Norway we have two murder in a year in the whole country.Most of it is mental health related.
Best wishes from Norway.
Not sure if blocking Walmart and big box stores from building in the county is a bad thing- just an observation. As always Ms. Lauren and Dr. John knock it out the park with their critiques, in depth analysis and original arguments. Would love to have Dr John as a literature professor. He obviously has read extensively.
Dr. John, You talk alot about generational shame. Is that carried in the genetics of a person, or can they change that?
Good question!!!!! 👏🏼 I hope Dr John reads this! I like to know the answer, family dynamics is a very interesting topic
Hi!! I was looking for someone to explain the generational portion of this family which digs deeper into who this family is and was. I am hooked and a new subscriber!! Thanks for a great broadcast. 👍🏻
Thank you for subscribing and welcome! Glad you found us
AM family seam to all be corrupt and don't care if AM did the murder or not...they want him to get off regardless!!!
Hakeem died because his vent was unplugged in care center. WHO DO YOU THINK UN PLUGGED HIM? Payment came 4 days later
Omg I watch your podcast all the time and I feel you always have a good grasp of the Daybell case and others. However, I thought as Yankees, you will never get this southern case but Dr. John has a great diagnosis of the family. Probably the best I’ve heard yet. Too bad he wasn’t sought out as an expert witness on this generational shame.
thank you! As “Yankees” - we are honored by your compliment.
I just adore the both of you - it’s seems like a very loving relationship!
Alex said to Maggie’s sister that whoever did this thought about it for a long time.
Don't we all grow up knowing that personal injury lawyers are pariahs? 30-40% of a cut after expenses is too high and not well regulated. The ooing and ahhing over his former partners loveliness on the stand have shown me that humans will definitely replaced by AI. We fall to easy for a 2 dimensional one sided portrayal on tv. This podcast goes deep and I love it.
There is so many layers, and dynamics to this story. This puts so much context to what was going on. I can see completely the dysfunction how this blew up the way it did. Thank you for sharing more background to this story.
Crime is generational in AM's family since great grandfather Buster. Getting caught was an inevitability. Just too bad it took so long and resulted in so much tragedy for so many.
Can someone please explain to me why the defense seems so caught off guard by the prosecution’s presentation of the GM Suburban’s data today? I thought discovery works both ways? Am I wrong? What am I missing?
It was just found and given to them yesterday and today Not much time to study it
AND, Alex stole every dime from the Satterwaitte boys while their trailer home was in FORECLOSURE.
Dam straight they are "theatrical". Spot on Dr John!
The examples of intergenerational family trauma outside of the Murdaugh family allowed me to feel that I have a firm understanding of how this creates dysfunction. Both Lauren and Dr. John get so deep into these concepts in every single episode, and I feel that I actually gain something by listening. I am going to become a member to support their work and all of the things that they generously share. Thanks so much.
Seeing Alex sitting in court letting snot run out of his face as he’s crying set off red flags. Tissues were available but it appeared to be for show.
Another thought no one seems to address.. not that it makes it ok..the man was addicted to opiiods for 20 Years!! Could be as simple as that when comig to memory loss, parinoiia and violent behavior. I am so frustrated with the prosecution. Of course he cannot remember what happened years ago, at the time he couldnt tell you what clothes he was wearing if he closed his eyes!!
Listening 2 replay. Hope u covered Defense attorney’s (‘Poot’)behavior today. Re: asking witness abt obtaining medical records. Frustrated and unprofessional. Ur thoughts?