Respect to Dr. Peterson for giving him the platform to speak out against American torture going on, and respect to this man for being able to forgive after all he's been through
Growing up in the US, it was unthinkable to me that my government would ever condone torture. We were "the good guys". This happened in my teen years and I've always questioned whether we were really "the good guys" ever since.
@@Hannestv4607 God is not human. A human will never be God. God doesn't eat, sleep, urinate, defecate, die, etc. There is no God except Allah, the Lord of all worlds.
"Allah doesn't burden a soul beyond it's capacity" dear brother you are indeed one of the strongest persons...not just because you went through that hell but especially because u took it upon yourself to forgive them and you did. Very very few people can do that. May Allah reward you highest ranks in Jannah after you leave this world. And I pray ease for you in this world also!
Human suffering is relative to the person’s life. Another person’s pain does not diminish your own struggles. It does give context and allows you to reflect, but more importantly remember to turn to Allah(swt) for guidance and you will never feel alone. Salam and take care In’Shaa’Allah.
Dear Brother, suicide is a major sin. Allah swt gives life and takes life on his own terms. If you’re struggling, recite countless AstaghfirAllah, day/night any time of the day and Allah will ease your pain 🤲🙏🌺💜
Mohamedou has a great sense of humor that keeps poking through in an interview that is otherwise about dark and scary events. Dude straight up survives modern day holocaust treatment and cracks jokes about relatable shit that happened along the way. What a fking legend.
@@khalidalali5165 I hope you can forgive the average american, I grew up during this era and we heard rumors about Guantanamo bay, but the government used a lot of word play and misdirection to hide the truth from us. I think the Bush administration was doing what it thought was in America's best interest, but anytime you have to hide something as inhumane as torture/murder, you really need to question the morality of your actions. "enhanced interrogation" my ass.... :(
Yeah!!!! Poor guy re-lives it day in day out with PTSD and hospital admissions. Yet he forgives them…… hope Bush and Blair have scary nightmares thinking of what they have done. To him and so many more plus all the innocent Iraqi people and the young western soldiers they tricked into fighting a bogus war. 😱
@@naseemkad this man is Muslim. They’re required to leave all affairs of this world as a means of a test and expiation for their sins, and that’s where she drives his peace from. Also, God will handle and punish the evil-doers, is most likely what he refers to when he says he forgives them (as in they can’t escape God’s justice).
Exactly what I was thinking, born brought up in English speaking UK yet this guy is more articulate than most of us. A very intelligent and academic guy, such a shame his life was ruined by American intelligence who just get away with doing these things.
Very intelligent man and I think it also has to do with how much and what he spent a lot of time reading while in prison. Reading widely just improves your ability to express yourself intelligently.
@@Kitiwake Says the American citizen that lives in a country that tortures innocent lives daily. His life was ruined by America and the thoughtless followers of America.
What a story! Poverty, travel, solitude, depression, a willingness to help others, being caught in huge world events, betrayal, torture, the weakness of man, abandonment, loss of hope, defeat, rebirth and finally forgiveness. And as another comment says, he comes away from this hating weak tea, half cooked eggs and small bathrooms! What a human being!
@do br What is that supposed to mean, exactly? Dr. Peterson has a platform, regardless of how he earned it. He invites people, many of them not that well-known, to share their stories and ideas in this platform; which in turn introduces them to people that didn't know them in the first place. That's how communication works, and it is also obvious that people won't watch 2h42min of an interview if they don't like the interviewee, just because they like the interviewer. P.S. This guest has a best-selling book, so "no" again. You're projecting and generalizing your personal experience of this video.
@do br If you think JP is famous because of pronoun things, you don't even have the remotest idea who JP is and what his message is. It is okay to be ignorant. It is not okay to be ignorant about your ignorance, AND talk as if you know something. Go read, I would suggest. Instead of embarrassing yourself further.
@@noone3367 Arabic is the official language of the country. In addition to that, the tribal languages/dialects that differ from a clan to clan and a place to another. French is the foreign language, not English.
@@noone3367 North African countries we have french as second language , English we started to learn it's (my time ) in highschool , you choice between , English / Spanish or dutch ....
This is probably one of the most gripping, unsettling and moving interviews I've ever seen. Not dramatic or sentimental at all, just sincere, empathetic, and thoughtful. I feel small next to this man. He is so humble, kind and friendly. Hearing about the magnitude of injustice he was dealt, and seeing the equanimity and grace he carries himself with despite all that is honestly breathtaking. It's hard to fathom the darkness that a person would have to be possessed by in order to see him as any type of villain, let alone one who could be brutalized and deprived of life in such a callous, pointless way. His smile melts my jaded, stoic heart. God only knows what nightmarish existence could be still happening for others who didn't make it out of that kafkaesque hellhole and all the others like it that we may never even know about in our lifetime. I'm so grateful for this window on the insanity of the 'war on terror'. I hope it is seen by many people. It needs to be. Thanks to both of these great men. May justice await the torturers.
Very humbling indeed to be witnessing such grace in spite of what he went through, but also the weight of those psychological wounds he must still carry with him for the rest of his life.
@@Tourtiere34 Perhaps it is,to some extent, judicious for Mohammedou to keep his pain? If, when, Our Creator chooses to reveal to him that all pain associated with his past can be, through Christ, washed away, annihilated in the blink of an eye, Mohammedou will be released from any pain associated with his memories. Would the world really be served at this juncture if he were to forget and not reveal the atrocities? He is well on his way to understanding the greatest truth, I would venture to guess. Remember: A rose by any other name, is still a rose, thus: The true God who manifested here on earth to thousands as a man in the essence of the Christ, whatever you may call Him, is still Creator Supreme; still has the same absolute power and authority and does whatever He likes.
After watching this interview, i feel relieved to say that i forgive people that have hurt me in anyway, i feel free. If this man can forgive those that took him through hell, there is no reason for me to hold onto the past. Jordan, this was such a great interview, this was like a therapy session.
No you dont forgive you dweeb. If you just forgive anybody they GET A HABIT of hurting you. They start thinking hurting you is fine and its fair game. They will make hurting you into a profit which they will then market fir more money. If someone hurts you, YOU TAKE REVENGE and thats how to stop evil. MAke an example. Live freely. Live peacefully. Live happily. If anyone harms you, become DEATH and give them what they deserve.
@@vorpalinferno9711 I understand your point but honestly forgiving and moving on for me at least was a better option. I struggled with anger and wrath towards the people who hurt me for a long time and eventually I came to the realization that revenge is not the answer. I accepted what happened and I distanced myself from those individuals but I never forgot what they did.
@@saddreams3449 Okay. How about rape? if a rapist rapes anyone they want the victims just forgive? The rapist can just continue having fun with anyone. Because rapist knows that victims will eventually forgive.
@@vorpalinferno9711 I understand where you're coming from, but for me Allah the Almighty will bring justice between everyone in the Day of Judgement. And forgiving your enemies will cause you to elevate in the ranks and possibly enter the higher levels of Paradise. (In Islam btw rapists are stoned to death )
Allah bless him , he remembered every single details from how the egg was cooked in Germany to every single feeling he experienced. He kept smiling , Allah reward you brother
I don't know many things about life, but as a Christian, I testify that the hearts of many Muslim friends are pure, good. I'm lucky to have had great and generous friends in the middle east, what an experience. It does not matter about money, rich or poor, it will invite you with an Arabic tee, greet you with a smile, share their time with you. God bless you all.
@@amyrenee1361 as a new muslim, I believe Jesus pbuh was a prophet of God just like *Adam* *Enoch* *Noah* *Heber* *Methusaleh* *Lot* *Abraham* *Ishmael* *Isaac* *Jacob* *Joseph* *Jethro* *Job* *Ezekiel* *Moses* *Aaron* *David* *Solomon* *Elias* *Elisha* *Jonah* *Zachariah* *John the Baptist* and *Muhammad* ( peace be upon them all ) And He was given the gospels just like Moses was given the torah. We believe - *_God is One_* - *_the Absolute and isn't in need of anything_* - *_He begets not, nor was He begotten_* - *_The creator is not like the creations_* - *_We don't need a mediator to have a connection with him_*
@@amyrenee1361 hi! No intent to insult anyone, but that line of Jesus (pbuh) “no one comes to the father except through me” actually contradicts a lot of concepts in Bible (which we, as Muslim, believe to be a Holy Scripture, but through time, wrong translation and intentionally corruption) became twisted, but the Word of God shouldn’t be confusing anyone, right? It should not, because it is the right path and in the Bible it is said: (1 Corinthians 14:33) “For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.” Holy Trinity, 3 parts of 1 God, it is all confusion from the start! Three will never be One not mathematically nor logically. There is also nowhere in the Bible where Jesus says he is the God and people should worship him. In fact, if Jesus is the God (or a part of it) then he is omniscient, all-knowing and all-hearing, but how come that omniscient God doesn’t know when will the Day of Judgement come? (Matthew 24:36): “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” This means that NO ONE in the heavens, including the Holy Spirit knows the date of the day of Judgement, but Father! This concept is the same as the concept in Islam, no one has that knowledge, except for Allah Almighty. In fact, Islam is the only Abrahamic (besides Christianity) religion that accepts Jesus as a prophet and believing in him is mandatory. I strongly recommend you to read Qu’ran, as we are the same Abrahamic religion and we call to worship only One God, the same God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, in fact you will gain a lot more detailed knowledge about the God, angels or prophets and it will never confuse you
@@amyrenee1361 Good grief, have read any of the bible? Read chapter 3 of Romans. Read gospel of John. Your questions belie fundamental ignorance. Jesus is making an exclusive claim, he is the ONLY way.
I haven’t seen my children for 9 months and I cried almost every day, his mother died not see him released from prison. I feel so small compared to this guy. Peace and forgiveness is what we all should aim for. My love to everyone regardless of their faith, race or colour.
It gets better my friend. Its all about the outlook we have and the positive energy we give out onto the world. No one can change the past, only try to make a better future from here on out. Peace and love from Michigan.
@@peacepeace5732 You need to reflect on yourself. You left all the pain; physical and psychological, he endured while still keeping his smile and pure soul and just remembered the "thieft" of an innocent young boy. Waaw!
@@ayanaguib984 You have no idea how much I shed tears while listening to his extremely sad and heart breaking story. I salute to this unique mentally strong man who is still smiling and announcing that he has already forgiven all those devils in human’s body who put to a living hell in this world for the crime that he never committed.
I cried for this man. He went to hell and back and yet he seems like such a friendly and humble person. I hope, after all the evil that has been done to you, you find peace and serenity in this life.
Don't be so easy to manipulate. Iam just 30min in but he is already lying about Mauretania a lot. Did he mentation that his cousin was AL Qaida member Abu Hafs al-Mauritania ? Did he mention that he was in 2 training camps AL farouq and gardez in Afghanistan in the early 90s? Did he mention that Ramzi Binalshibh and other terrorists slept in his Appartement in Duisburg in 1999 ? Did he mention that he had email contact with jihadist Christian Ganczarski? Did he mentioned that his German visa wasn't extended cause he was found guilty of social fraud in 1999?
Yes. He started interrupting a lot, and sometimes still does, he listened very well here, and asked surgical questions to enable the best of the story to come out.
Iam just 30min in. Did he mentation that his cousin was AL Qaida member Abu Hafs al-Mauritania ? Did he mention that he was in 2 training camps AL farouq and gardez in Afghanistan in the early 90s? Did he mention that Ramzi Binalshibh and other terrorists slept in his Appartement in Duisburg in 1999 ? Did he mention that he had email contact with jihadist Christian Ganczarski? Did he mentioned that his German visa wasn't extended cause he was found guilty of social fraud in 1999?
@@Larrypint lmao, where did you get this info, mate? Must be CIA post-torture “confess” they got after 14 years of mentally and physically killing tortures
Listening to his story was hard enough, had to shed tears few times when he shares the stories about torture. Living with such experience yet with beautiful smiles shows how strong this man is. He's indeed a believer.
the fact that he holds no grudges and resentment against anyone after all he's been through shows how powerful of a person he is. This right here is the highest level of existence.
@@denziljoe how about losing basic human rights, without ever having associated with terrorist organisations whatsoever? Belittling the rise of totalitarianism isn't the way to go.
@@brodieclamp5090 Not at all. It reads as though someone watched a few minutes and clicked off the video. Mohamedou even states that he was smiling in Guantanomo despite the fear, pain and gross conditions. He's currently in serious need of international medical help and he can't leave his country. To suggest this poor man has "moved on" couldn't be more tone-deaf for a video describing human rights atrocities.
@@clinch4402you've misinterpreted what I've said, I mean the fact he's not a mumbling wreck and hasn't killed himself is a testament to the man's strength.
It left an impression on me when he spoke about being faced with death that the only thing he cared about was whether he was nice to others. That is such a good reminder to take with us.
Mohamedou, your mother is absolutely…absolutely correct… you have value. You are a good person. You are a very important person. Always remember that. Thank you for sharing your story, your trials and tribulations. Peace to you.
This is the FIRST time in my life I sat for 2hrs and 42mins straight and listened. I have severe attention deficiency (adhd) but not only couldn’t I turn away, I actually held my pee in the whole way so it was torturous when he spoke about how relieved he was peeing.
If he’s telling the truth 🤷🏼♀️he could also be a very manipulative person and just playing out a character… you can’t understand a person from one ☝🏼 story
@@jerusalem5646 u think the government wouldn't call him a liar if he lied about anything? They call people who tell truth liars just to protect their image.
Thank you for using ulterior, I didnt know that was a word and always thought it was alterior i now have however discovered that i had it backwards 😂😂😂
@@crazywazydoublehazy I noticed that too. Jordan Peterson has to make his podcast interesting to his viewers, and I suspect he is trying to guide the flow in a direction that he believes is interesting to his viewers.
After watching the movie, you tend to understand why some of these innocent men become terrorists. The level of torture that the US government inflicted on this man is despicable, even after he won the case. Yet, this man chose to forgive. Wow! Admirable!
@@partofme100 he maybe forgiving them for himself, not for them!! If he held onto the anger who does it hurt?? It hurts him, not them!! You don’t forgive someone for them, you forgive so you can move forward to a better life!!
@@partofme100What does he gain by not forgiving? He is still speaking out against the evil things done to him, he's simply choosing not to hate people that have nothing to do with what was done, as well as choosing not to be bitter about what he endured. You think that righteous anger is magically going to allow him to prosecute those who hurt him? Grow up
After the description of “pure chaos” during his torture, I teared up and wanted nothing more than to embrace Mohamedou and let him know that he is my brother. A brother who is to his core, and example of humanity’s true worth. We have a capacity for evil but an even greater capacity to love one another. Thank you for bringing this Hero to your audience Dr. Peterson.
David, you're a good man. You need to learn about Islam brother. Don't follow the religion of these torturers which leads to darkness. Islam is the only religion of God that teaches respect, mercy, kindness, justice, etc. Peace!
@@Omar-jy1gr After some time on this Earth I don’t think anyone can claim to have THE answer to the “one” religion. Many Christians fall short of Christ’s teachings, many Buddhists fail to remain free from Earths temptations, and even Muslims forget to keep their sacraments. All any man or woman can do is better themselves for their children, tell the truth, and stand up for those without the ability to do so. The religion which motivates you only aligns you with a particular group on the planet. We are all aligned by our humanity.
Please, don't be so emotional! Don't be confused. This is his belief----Quran(9:30) "...May Allah destroy them ( the Jews and Christians )....." Quran(9:123) "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhoods" Quran(22:19) "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire,hooked unto rods,boiling water,melt their skins and bellies". Quran (47:4) "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels;behead them when you catch them" Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end. Quran (2;191) "Slay the unbelievers where ever you find them" Quran(3:28) "Muslim's must not take infidels as their friends" Quran(3:85 "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable" Quran (5;33) "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Quran(8:12) "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Quran" Quran(8:60) "Muslim's must muster all weapons to terrorize the Infidels" Quran(8:65) "The unbelievers are stupid,urge the Muslim's to fight them" Quran(9:5) SAHIH INTERNATIONAL And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.Quran(9:5)
Moroccan as I am, our neighbours to the south, are the nicest, most forgiving and simplistic of folks. This man just confirmed what we long knew about these people. No grudges, just peace of mind and love for others.
Yeah sure but it's in Morocco where they have so many CIA black sites where they abuse, rape and torture many innocent people who haven't even gone in trial. Many shameful things in Morocco, there are many people like this man suffering in Morocco and nobody knows but your government is okay with this doing the dirty work for America.
@@blackexcellence2280 Who told you that harki ? You don’t have any evidence of what you are saying do you ? I mean compared to it’s entourage, and I am talking about the military regime of Algeria who killed 10 thousands of Algerians , you can say that Morocco is the most democratic regime in the region with a long history..
@@gregmezera6571 generally, yes! Most folks of the region have a certain decency and simplicity (that I was raised with too) that exceeds western standards
All this began with his fathers camel herd could not be sustained anymore, but there is a solution to that which they need to learn about. I couldnt listen because they didnt talk about this. I feel so sad that we have answers but struggle to get people to listen.
Just under 800 people have been kept in Guantanamo bay prison, with half being released according to the untrustworthy American government. I imagine many of the innocent prisoners America captured have lost their minds and there is no way back for them. Don’t forget them - they’re heroes too.
As usual, I was notified (on my phone), that J.P.’s new episode is ready to view. And as usual, I proceeded to listen, while working on another driftwood piece….. Only 15 minutes into it, I could no longer do anything else, but to listen closely and watch. Wow, I am truly overwhelmed, and speechless. I don’t own a television set, and my movie watching experience, is very limited. But, as soon as this podcast was over, I watched the trailer of this movie, and then I read and watched everything that I was able to find (on line), about this incredible human being…. He is definitely an angel, who decided to come down to earth, to show us the true power of Love. I can’t stop crying… His journey is incredible, and so powerful. Only because of such human beings, such angels, like Mohamedou, we (the human race), still have a chance of survival. Thank you.
I'm a US veteran. I've never really been particularly proud about that. It was just a small part of my life. However hearing stories like this kind of makes me feel ashamed of it. I'm not quite sure what to do with that. I certainly got some thinking to do. 1 thing I know is this man is not now nor has he ever been my enemy. His story has moved me to tears.
I will tell you about a horrible experience that I'm going through everyday. I am from Pakistan and I was 19 or 20 years old and there was a family in my neighborhood and the guy had four kids and then went to the tribal area for a wedding in their relatives and a US drone bombed the house. The next day we heard that the guy had lost two kids and when I saw the half burned and body parts of those small kids. The father would pick the detached hands and feet and would clean and kiss those small fingers. Now I have a three years old son. It's so hard to look at his hands. I can't hold my tears when I kiss his hands. This is my first time to share this experience. I hate wars, weapons, army and politicians. I wish at least my son won't see any torture or things in his life.
Unfortunatelly David, the USA is obsessed with guns, war and bad guys. Hard to know what it will do in the next few years, hopefully young Americans will challange the need for the next inevitable war.
I have never cried so much watching anything in my life. I have no words to describe this. One lesson I learn is just love no matter what. Love is the only thing that can free us.
Love is a very missunderstood concept, I think, because to be able to love 'something' or 'someone' you must know this 'something or someone' because otherwise how can you love it if you dont know it. If you love someone but dont know them, then you love your view of the someone, and not the actual someone, so In my view, love = knowledge.
Part of his story that touched me the most, is his mother. Living by it & dying in that shame while he was unable to see her or attend her burial. The world we live in
@@AK-hi7mg War criminals US army why do you think vets keep killing themselves. You can't dash out pain and suffering without expecting it to come back at you in one form or another.
You are an incredibly graceful person, Mohamedou. I don't have the words to express how impressed I am by your positive attitude and your resilience. None of those are the appropriate words, but I'm moved by your strength. God bless you.
Mohamedou Ould Slahi, I apologize to you for all the injustice done to you by my countrymen, thankyou for your courage to survive and tell your story. I am so Impressed with your grace to overcome this dark chapter of your life and make the world a better place by teaching us all. may blessings and peace follow you.
When the rest of the world hears you saying thank you for your service, it is these kinds of stories and countless others that didn’t become movies or books that we think of. This is what the world sees your army as, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, Bargam, And the invasion of so many countries. I truly hope you never thank anyone participating in organizations that do this to people, even if they are your own.
I think this interview has changed me. Especially when he realised his life is done, the only regrets that he wasn't better and nicer Jordan is still contributing a lot to humanity. I realy wish him well
At first, I thought that there is no way I'm gonna finish an almost 3 hour podcast. About 20 mins in, I was hooked. His story was so horrifyingly vivid. Like I was watching a movie in my head as he continued telling the story. Very sad to live "virtually" what he had gone through, yet very happy that the end was not so much worse. Dr. JP, you are a great listener, and an amazing interviewer. Great content as always and I am huge fan.
I see this man that I don’t know and my heart gets filled with pain because of his history. I see him smiling and at the same time a see the sadness through his eyes. May God keep you and bless you and heal you. Wow
Thank you for this interview. It has opened my sight to how cruel people can be, how resilient they can be and how forgiving they can be. God be with you Mohamedou
Omg he went through a lot of horror times. I am just crying all the vedio..O Allah please grant him blessed and peaceful life in this world and the hereafter.
I feel so ashamed that an innocent man could have been held captive for so long, so much of his life taken away and is still able to forgive. What an amazing example of what a person can endure. Hope the rest of his life he can live in peace and enjoy life. Amazing man!
I feel compelled to comment just to say how much I admire Jordan. I've listened to his lectures and podcast as well as his daughter's podcast for years now. I'm a 30 year old guy that's been homeless and suffering from severe anxiety for 7 years now. Although I've been on methadone since 2015 and clean I have yet to clean my room up. Jordan's compassion with intelligence and no nonsense approach to fixing things has always been alluring to me. When things are down I try and imagine what Jordan would say to me in that moment. I have no family and feel like he gives me an idea of a father figure/ therapist/ mentor/ friend when I need it most. I haven't missed a podcast yet. I wish to one day be able to get into school to study maths as that and the physical sciences has always been my interest and truly is my motivation to get up everyday. I pray that in time I become more confident, less awkward, and in a place where I'm a bit more content and surrounded by positive people I can show my love to. Thank you Dr. Peterson for being a guiding light to me. It's meant a lot. You've helped more people than I'm sure you can fathom, and that are in situations that are more unique and varied than anyone can comprehend. Thanks man. Thanks.
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No, his prison guard. Being godfathers to each other's children ..this broke me - waterworks. How some people can be so beautiful and so big gives me more hope than anything I've heard in forever.
@@mahamirza2388 @Maha Mirza Yes, exactly! He went through all of this horrible stuff and yet he holds no grudge. He's ready to invite everyone from Guantanamo Bay to his house - this is like a divine level of forgiveness. It reminds me of how Jesus asked the Father to forgive those who had crucified Him. As far as I'm concerned, Mr Mohamedou is a saint
@@Mi-guo-wai I haven't stopped thinking of him, his smile, jokes, and conclusion about what matters the most in life - being nice to others. I feel guilty for my rather baseless self pity and will hold onto his recounted experience to be stronger, more compassionate and more grateful.
@@mahamirza2388 yeah, his story puts my petty problems into perspective and his total forgiveness and total love can really teach humility. I hope I'll never forget this lesson
He is broken now. If all people saw were how nice, smiley and friendly this guy was, they are missing a key consequence of this story. That a man was destroyed by other men.
I don’t know if he can only feel safe alone or just with minimum people around… I know he said he feels better alone but earlier in the interview he stated that he can only fall asleep with someone next to him (watching him).
@@dannyc7227 that was when he first went to an apartment for the first time and had to sleep alone after living his whole life prior sleeping with people/family around him then spent a decade alone which he then adapted to that
What a remarkable human being. How he can show such strength after such hardship is beyond me. A fantastic interview and a story I could not possibly imagine to experience and still smile at the end of it
Wow that prayer he made to Allah guide me, was when he confessed saying he was a criminal but he wasn't BUT that lead him to the lie detector and he got out. His prayer was answered. Alhamdulilah.
As an American citizen I find that holding this man..any man, uncharged. Without proof of any kind is reprehensible. This is not my America. I apologize for what you have been so cruelly put through..so senseless...You are a hero among men. Your courage. Your willingness to forgive is beyond belief. I wish you all the joy and peace that you deserve. Thank you too Dr. Peterson. Hearing this man's story puts my petty problems in their place.
Unfortunately this IS America and has been since its inception. That doesn't mean that there aren't really good people trying to change it. Some of those people are what Mr. Peterson pejoratively calls Social Justice Warriors, but often these are people who see injustices like this and are trying to change it (admittedly sometimes not using the best strategy). Please look up Kalief Browder's story and the cash bail system which a lot of organizations are trying to end to see just ONE way how this happens to people in America on a regular basis.
@@homeygdoggydogg There aren't enough of US. Who have the time..or the Money, which explains the time thing...to stop attempting to care for our own Families, since Regan decimated the Unions. to take the time necessary to effectively make a difference. And..since " Citizens United " our Representatives no longer work for We The People...the work for Corporate America...this is I fear is the end of our experiment with Democracy...
Smiling and radiant in the opening image, whereas Jordan Peterson looks like he has the weight of the world on him ... perhaps he has been through something worse?
@@macfunkey Pain is relative -- and everyone's tolerance -- ability to fully process it- whether it's purely inner and emotional/ mental or outer and physical varies--- It's hard to compare Jordan and this person---- both have experienced extreme 'pain'--- but it's like comparing apples to oranges--- different in terms of form and duration-- but both equally valid
@@TheSwitch87 good observation. Both of these men I believed struggled with depression and were on anti-depression medication. I also recall that Peterson has mentioned often that depression runs in his family.
This. My life is nothing like his, at all, but in so many ways, I feel myself falling apart day to day. Seeing how genuinely happy and kind this guy can seem, after the horrors he has endured...... I have hope. If this guy can still be happy, I don't think any of us have excuse.
Your attitude towards all this is forgiveness!! What a human being!! I salute you my brother and I’ll keep you in prayer to heal from all your trauma and live a joyful life!!
May Allah heal all your wounds physically and psychologically. I pray that your life is filled with happiness, love and good health. Thank you, Jordan.
This is a riveting interview. Dr. Peterson, who tends to speak more than his guests, were unusually subdued. Mohamedou Ould Salahi managed to transcend his torturous experience to arrive at profound insight about the dangers of unchecked government power. He seems to have achieved a state of grace even though he still suffers from PTST. What a shameful waste such a remarkable and talented person was wrongly imprisoned and tortured for 16 years.
Yes, Canadian’s and American’s might do well to be acutely aware about the dangers of unchecked government spending and power! Power is so intoxicating and the ‘love of money is the root of all evil.’ I am thankful that my gracious Lord, King of Kings, opens my eyes and helps me with these things, although He continues.
Thank you to bring this guy Professor! As an Arab guy from Algeria with a mother of bedouin origins, I am glad to see Mohamed speak out his mind in his very true bedouin way (very explicative, not judgmental, open minded, pure hearted and very honest in conveying stories, they are the best at it). It's good for the deep western thinker to see that these people (my people are pearls in this planet) :) Also, all the strength he has is from Islam. That what keeps us alive and hoping
So Germany, Canada and Senegal couldn't find anything on this sunshine of a man, and USA "intelligence" took it upon themselves to prove to everyone how superior and foresighted they were by kidnapping him and keeping him against all reason ! The audacity of these modern tyrants to teach us about humanity and democracy is really hallucinating.
this one is fascinating for its connection to al queda when they were allies in the fight against russians. One doesnt go off to war and bond with their band of brothers as he did in the early 90s and drop all communication with them after its over. Thats the sense I get from all I've read about him, he severed with al queda after helping in the fight against russia but then likely continued with the personal connections he made in afghanistan. Unfortunately, some of those connections may have been involved with 9/11 planning as the 90s decade came to a close, though not him.There must be other Slahi's as well, maybe dozens, if they werent killed by the russians (or later by the americans).
tear up. WHAT A STORY. I have never watched an interview for almost 3 hours until this interview. Letting go and having no grudges made this man survive. The subtle interaction between Jordan and Ould Slahi was honestly humanely amazing to watch. Salute
I'm lost for words. It's just astounding, if this man can make peace with his captors and torturers then governments have no excuse not to make peace with one another. Thank you both for this.
I really don't have the attention span required for such a long format. This interview had me stuck to my chair. At times holding back tears. Most of us would probably be crushed by treatment Mohamedou endured. As a christian there are things I can learn from this man (about forgiveness and attitude to others).
I'm an American and It's definitely a shame that this man was mistreated by my country. It is our loss because he is a wonderful human being. Jordan is right we need to do better.
Just this man? What about the millions of people that have been killed by your unjust wars, or the billions of people who are suffering due to your corrupt monetary system? If you have just become aware of this type of thing going on now, I don't know what to say. My people and most of humanity are suffering to extreme levels on a per sec basis, and your country and culture are a big reason why. You don't need to hear a Guantanamo story to realise this. But hey, if you have now opened your eyes then the least I can say is welcome, and I hope you spread the word.
Your comment stings of arrogance, mistreated and do better! Imagine you've gone through 50% of what he has gone through and many many people like him still going through, would you still use the same words, or you gonna use words like TORTURE and STOP.
I watched the movie and some scene were really traumatising to watch, imagine how traumatising it was for him, SubhanAllah, may Allah make it easy for him and give him the best in the afterlife ameen
What moved me most (so many things moved me about this interview) was his description of being in the hotel alone in Germany. To be 17/18 years old and never have been alone in a room speaks volumes. How many times throughout our childhood had we been alone in our room “bored”??? Meanwhile, this man (and millions of others) have never gotten to experience a night alone in a room? Alone with their thoughts, alone to do whatever it is they wanted to do. Mind blowing.
Wow u r so right small house with 6 .7 8.9 siblings all over the room chit chats 1 tv only on till 10 if u lucky enought to have one or have electricity .western kids can never imagen .works both ways good and bad
@@runningdrew6654 Everyone is moved by emotion, without emotions there is no reason to do anything. The fact that you took the time to write this comment means that you have some form of emotion. I have seen other comments that you have written in this comment section too and it is clear you are also driven by emotion, negative emotion. Like spite or self protective narccissm mabye.
Gripping. Thank you, Jordan, for a totally immersive look into the struggles of Mohamedou who truly was dealt a very bad hand. I think I have finally started breathing again. The resilience of the human spirit is amazing. Mohamedou is an amazing spirit.
This man is amazing. So related with the way the Dictadura here in Argentina operated, but i just wanted to point at how good Peterson was at letting him talk and supporting him while he walked through those traumatic times, and how grateful he is of having a chance to talk to Peterson. Tough conversation but full of joy and healing and forgiveness
This was a life changing interview for me. His goodness simply emanates from the very core of his being. Thank you very much for allowing us to hear his story. I will try to follow his example of kindness. We have all been given the opportunity to understand injustice here in Canada. May we all have the ability to forgive, to the degree Mohamedou has.
Well iam just 30min in. Did he mentation that his cousin was AL Qaida member Abu Hafs al-Mauritania ? Did he mention that he was in 2 training camps AL farouq and gardez in Afghanistan in the early 90s? Did he mention that Ramzi Binalshibh and other terrorists slept in his Appartement in Duisburg in 1999 ? Did he mention that he had email contact with jihadist Christian Ganczarski? Did he mentioned that his German visa wasn't extended cause he was found guilty of social fraud in 1999?
Ive learned so much about humanity and lack thereof in the last 20 months….doesn’t bode well as we head to our Great Reset and the neo Tyranny of Technocracy
It's so strange how this man started out loving to be around people in his youth and was afraid to be alone but after Guantanamo they broke him down to the point where people made him uncomfortable. So sad how they could destroy someone's livelihood like that. So glad you got out and young enough to enjoy your freedom into your future.
Remarkable Guest! Thank You! I have worked in Criminal/Aboriginal Justice for 40+ years! I have studied body language cross culturally and culture specific! Incredibly honest interview!
I m an Arab .. and a Muslim .. and it hurts so much .. to hear all of that God have mercy on us .. God protect us and our families and loved ones .. My God this is tragic
Yes this is the most extreme form of breaking a human, but this country and its UK cousins have broken millions in fact billions of people in lesser more disguised forms of torture every single day .
Wow! This interview literally brought me to tears. What an honour it is to hear from this man. Thank you Jordan for giving him the platform and sharing this heart wrenching story with a strong undercurrent of hope for humanity.
I admire how Dr. Peterson asks these dark and difficult questions to simply understand the person in front of him, to know what their experience is like. This is so important for us to understand each other, and to understand ourselves.
Mohamedou is an amazing person, I can't believe how he could forgive the people who tortured him. He must have strong faith in our creator, that's why he is in peace with himself and smiles all the time. Allah is the greatest :) Peace and love.
Many Christians forgive as well. Try reading about Jim Elliot and Corrie Ten Boom just two people among many who have forgiven. FORGIVENESS is the main message of the gospels. Jesus Christ Himself says on the cross as He is being crucified, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do.” Just sharing….
@@safyaniqbal2 yet Jesus was a Jewish man raised in the customs of His culture. I see Jewish people practicing that custom now. How could it not have been their custom? The Bible is a Jewish book to be understood in that culture within during that time. Forgiveness also doesn’t always mean to allow the crime committed to go unpunished.There are consequences to one’s behavior. In the court of law, a person can be forgiven by a relative but the LAW still holds that person accountable and punishment is administered. The Bible is a book of law as well, laws people abide by and the law of the land in America adheres to as well such as the Ten Commandments.
@@vaquera9368 I've read the bible, our religions are so similar because I believe they are from the same source but we like to alienate each other. God said in the Quran "We have revealed the Book to you (Muhammad) in all Truth. It confirms the Bible and has the authority to preserve or abrogate what the Bible contains. Judge among them by what God has revealed to you and do not follow their desires instead of the Truth which has come to you. We have given a law and a way of life to each of you. Had God willed, He could have made you a single nation, but He tests you through what He has given you. So compete in righteousness. To God is your return, all of you; then He will inform you of what you had disputed"
Tough question. Tough answer. Experience speaks. This strengthens me. They can take my body but never my mind. Humans belong free. Death is preferable to tyranny. There is a better place for the soul than here…
While death is preferable to tyranny, I can’t help but feel our souls chose this life to help stop tyranny, because we felt we could, or knew we could.
After all of that, the smile on his face when he explained his relationship with that guy and that they are godfathers to each other’s children… this episode left me with a lot to think about. My problems seem that much more insignificant, and my ungratefulness to life has become suddenly apparent. Thank you for this episode.
This man is so sweet , his smile is so pure despite all what he had to live . Thank you for this interview , Jordan . May God shower you both with love and truth
Extraordinary interview. My heart goes out to everyone who has ever had to live through anything remotely similar. This could happen to anyone of us and that`s a very frightening thought. Harming a fellow human being in such a way, guilty or not, is beyond words. I don`t know who I pity more, the victims or the perpetrators. My deepest respects to Mohamed, a man who conquered evil on so many levels . I can`t even start to imagine the demons that will haunt him for the rest of his life. Thank you, both, and may God be with you.
@@Verdeishern You're extremely naive. There has been damn near only muslims persecuted, held without a trial in that prison for decades. Being tortured for no damn reason. USA is the bad guys bro
@@ziaali319 During cold war greedy capitalists of united states made many south American Christian countries a living hell like now they are doing with Muslim countries. So Andrew Cisneros is right when he say people of ethenicities have been subjected to torture of all kind from all kinds of puppet evil dictators like secular, communist, religious and what not
I love how JP is doing his best to listen. He has his finger on his lips, you can tell he really wants to interject but doesn’t. Thank you Mr. Peterson for being a great psychologist.
I'm Canadian and I would like to say my country did what it usually does which is pass the buck and come out smelling like roses. We failed this man and others by not standing up to the Americans and doing a proper investigation then deciding on its merits how to justly proceed. Also I was just graduating University when 911 happened. I remember the talk around enhanced interrogation. I absolutely knew it was torture. I remember academics being silenced regarding this issue. I remember later on being told that while Guantanamo likely held non terrorists that they could not be released as being there had likely radicalized them (giant red flag). I remember the American media showing how cushy the prison was. Hey they even got a complimentary Koran. I remember studying world war 2. I remember saying I would have stood up against the Nazis. I remember thinking I would have stood against Japanese internment camps. Well I had a chance during this time and I did nothing. Bitter pill to swallow even though it was not specifically my country doing the abuse. Not even Nazi war criminals endured what Mohamedou Ould Slahi did. To those that actually protested and tried my respect. For the rest of us maybe get our shit together and my sincere apology for my and our complete failure to maintain my and our principles in the face of fear.
Also thanks to Jordan for bringing cases like this to my attention I always learn something from watching these videos even if it is something I don't like.
Thank you for this interview ❤😊😢😂🎉😮😂😊 May we all be humble and willing to learn... Growing in truth and 💕 Love! God is our final judge... And will judge all by their thoughts & deeds. Life is 2 short.. let go let God.... None of us designed this creation... It is beyond our human comprehension.. be kind 2 all living creatures.... Yes.... There is good & evil. Let's be good, decent & do what good we can @ everything we come in contact with... Be fair minded & do our own inner work.. self examination.. choose good over evil. Life over death🎉❤. This is a very humble man who is an exemplary example of how 2 fight the good 👍 fight... A blessing to have him & Jordan together. Our gift 🎁 from our Maker.... So humbling 2 find this superb video. Kudos..
Mr Peterson, I really enjoy this interview, and the one with the North Korean girl. I mean, your talks with scholars are elegant as they are explanatory, but your talks with heroes are powerful as they are demonstrative. Normally I just listen to your interviews while doing chores. For these two, I sit down properly and watch with my breath held.
Exactly. At the end of the day, what we learn and what we know is of little value unless it teaches us the kind of humanity and strength and overcoming that heroes teach us!
It's absolutely heartbreaking what we did to this man, and to so many more like him I'm sure..😢......and his demeanor is so touching to me. That he's not angry and resentful. His story really makes me realize how much I take for granted. Puts my problems in perspective.
Mohamedou, you teach us how to be a holy saint... God bless you whereever you go, whatever you do.... Thank you Dr. Peterson, for having such a rare and remarkable guest on your podcast.
What a chilling story... And well done to Jordan for bringing this difficult story to us. We need to know these thing happened to real people. That they had concequences, and that we should never do them again.
Dear Jordan B. Peterson, I just wanted to say thank you. I'm 20 years old and I study psychology. I found out about you when I felt very lost, I was about 15 at the time. However, your books and youtube videos gave me motivation, meaning, and power to start searching for answers to all of my questions. You impacted my life immensely, and 5 years later I still question everything I see and try to be the best version of myself, even though I have to admit it's very hard to make the right choices. I don't think that I'll ever be able to express how grateful I am to you. But you were like a father figure to me. This episode was splendid and once again reminded me how beautiful and brave a person can decide to be. Thank you, Mr. Peterson
From hating being alone to preferring to be alone, this the effects of incarceration without due process. Shutting this unfair world out!! Reminds me of the Stanford Experiment to some extent’s. Worth a watch.
You're not blamed for the actions of your government. No government in the world represents its people. They just represents the will of the oligarchs.
I’m Canadian too. I concur… after watching this equally heart wrenching and amazingly inspiring video of such a brave innocent soul, these atrocities are just yet another reason why I’m utterly disgusted at the corrupt Canadian government. They are not fit to be in their current position.
Of all of the JBP podcasts I've listened to (and I have listened to a lot), this is the most horrific. To see an innocent man punished and tortured for 14 years, and to learn that the US was the worst offender in the inhuman treatment of this man, made me cry. It also is the only podcast where Jordan just...let the man talk. Anyone who doubts that the seeds of darkness lie in all of our souls should listen to this podcast with wonder and horror.
Innocent until proven guilty is a legal judgment not a moral one. Through out the interview, he down played his connections with various high profile terrorists and the too often concurrence of himself and multiple terror attacks/attempts. He also forgot to mention when he cooperated, that is when the intels he provided led to the capture of true terrorists, he got books, a television, a PlayStation, and an old laptop, on which he killed time playing chess and watching DVDs. Jordan asked the correct question "If you didn't do that, how can you cooperate?" His mistake was to assume this to be a rhetorical question. OJ Simpson is legally not guilty, but for sure, he has some exciting stories to tell.
Muhammad " The War is deceit." Please, don't be so naif. This is his belief. According to God, the man who believes in this Book should be cut off from the living------This is his belief----Quran(9/30 ) "...May Allah destroy them ( the Jews and Christians )....." Quran(9:123) "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhoods" Quran(@) "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire,hooked unto rods,boiling water,melt their skins and bellies". Quran (47:4) "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels;behead them when you catch them" Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end. Quran (2;191) "Slay the unbelievers where ever you find them" Quran(@) "Muslim's must not take infidels as their friends" Quran(3:85 "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable" Quran (5;33) "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Quran(@) "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Quran" Quran(8:60) "Muslim's must muster all weapons to terrorize the Infidels" Quran(8:65) "The unbelievers are stupid,urge the Muslim's to fight them" Quran(9:5) SAHIH INTERNATIONAL And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.Quran(9:5)
My heart breaks for this poor man. What a beautiful and resilient soul he is. He has every right to be resentful and hateful towards the world but he is not. I truly admire his strength and resolve!!
This is because of his strong belief in Allah ..Allah He does not waste the reward of the doers of good. He also compensates for everything bad, as long as he is patient and trusts in God
Respect to Dr. Peterson for giving him the platform to speak out against American torture going on, and respect to this man for being able to forgive after all he's been through
Growing up in the US, it was unthinkable to me that my government would ever condone torture. We were "the good guys". This happened in my teen years and I've always questioned whether we were really "the good guys" ever since.
@@gregmezera6571 America is the total opposite to good guys
@K M Rusa government will be hold an accountable for what they have done to Muslim countries
@K M R not hate just telling the consequences of killing innocent Muslims during these unnecessary wars
Fuck forgiveness. He's got a right to be angry.
I have never sat down and watched an entire interview this long, he is an amazing man beyond description. May Allah reward him Jannah.
Yes and May peace be with this man - Been through enough!
same here
Yep me too
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!*
Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!!
Philippians 2:5-8
@@Hannestv4607 God is not human. A human will never be God. God doesn't eat, sleep, urinate, defecate, die, etc. There is no God except Allah, the Lord of all worlds.
"Allah doesn't burden a soul beyond it's capacity" dear brother you are indeed one of the strongest persons...not just because you went through that hell but especially because u took it upon yourself to forgive them and you did. Very very few people can do that. May Allah reward you highest ranks in Jannah after you leave this world. And I pray ease for you in this world also!
That's what I was thinking
Amen
Ameen ya Rab
Ameen
Amen to that
I was depressed and had some suicidal thoughts but my after watching this video I am ashamed of myself
God bless him
Human suffering is relative to the person’s life. Another person’s pain does not diminish your own struggles. It does give context and allows you to reflect, but more importantly remember to turn to Allah(swt) for guidance and you will never feel alone. Salam and take care In’Shaa’Allah.
Dear Brother, suicide is a major sin. Allah swt gives life and takes life on his own terms. If you’re struggling, recite countless AstaghfirAllah, day/night any time of the day and Allah will ease your pain 🤲🙏🌺💜
If you do feel depressed again pls talk to someone that’s a professional and listen to Surah Rahman! It helps
Your life is precious brother. Take good care of it. May Allah ease for what you are going through.
It's very humbling to see someone bearing a heavier weight with ease. This man's spirit is so strong.
Mohamedou has a great sense of humor that keeps poking through in an interview that is otherwise about dark and scary events. Dude straight up survives modern day holocaust treatment and cracks jokes about relatable shit that happened along the way. What a fking legend.
So true ,, this was a torture technique similar to Nazi Germany !! Shame to see that no one is brought to justice 😕
@@khalidalali5165 I hope you can forgive the average american, I grew up during this era and we heard rumors about Guantanamo bay, but the government used a lot of word play and misdirection to hide the truth from us. I think the Bush administration was doing what it thought was in America's best interest, but anytime you have to hide something as inhumane as torture/murder, you really need to question the morality of your actions. "enhanced interrogation" my ass.... :(
Yeah!!!! Poor guy re-lives it day in day out with PTSD and hospital admissions. Yet he forgives them…… hope Bush and Blair have scary nightmares thinking of what they have done. To him and so many more plus all the innocent Iraqi people and the young western soldiers they tricked into fighting a bogus war. 😱
@@naseemkad this man is Muslim. They’re required to leave all affairs of this world as a means of a test and expiation for their sins, and that’s where she drives his peace from. Also, God will handle and punish the evil-doers, is most likely what he refers to when he says he forgives them (as in they can’t escape God’s justice).
@@khalidalali5165 these people will only be brought to justice in the court of Allah .
Guy learns English in prison and completes an extended interview more eloquently than I could.
Exactly what I was thinking, born brought up in English speaking UK yet this guy is more articulate than most of us. A very intelligent and academic guy, such a shame his life was ruined by American intelligence who just get away with doing these things.
Very intelligent man and I think it also has to do with how much and what he spent a lot of time reading while in prison. Reading widely just improves your ability to express yourself intelligently.
@@Kitiwake care to elaborate
@@Kitiwake Says the American citizen that lives in a country that tortures innocent lives daily. His life was ruined by America and the thoughtless followers of America.
@@Kitiwake how so?
What a story!
Poverty, travel, solitude, depression, a willingness to help others, being caught in huge world events, betrayal, torture, the weakness of man, abandonment, loss of hope, defeat, rebirth and finally forgiveness.
And as another comment says, he comes away from this hating weak tea, half cooked eggs and small bathrooms!
What a human being!
@do br What is that supposed to mean, exactly? Dr. Peterson has a platform, regardless of how he earned it. He invites people, many of them not that well-known, to share their stories and ideas in this platform; which in turn introduces them to people that didn't know them in the first place. That's how communication works, and it is also obvious that people won't watch 2h42min of an interview if they don't like the interviewee, just because they like the interviewer.
P.S. This guest has a best-selling book, so "no" again. You're projecting and generalizing your personal experience of this video.
@do br This interview is more touching then the movie, I found out about this guy through the netflix movie The Mauritanian
@do br If you think JP is famous because of pronoun things, you don't even have the remotest idea who JP is and what his message is.
It is okay to be ignorant. It is not okay to be ignorant about your ignorance, AND talk as if you know something.
Go read, I would suggest. Instead of embarrassing yourself further.
the main question world u last like him and what do he have that help him in all this
@do br Dr Peterson publicity is solely due to pronouns? living under a rock much?
English is probably his fourth or even fifth language, yet he is still more articulate than half of the people I meet.
@@blackkapmorris9404 this seems like a stupid reply
@@nooruddin-ali this seems like a based reply
I think English is the second language in Mauritania but i'm not sure
@@noone3367 Arabic is the official language of the country. In addition to that, the tribal languages/dialects that differ from a clan to clan and a place to another.
French is the foreign language, not English.
@@noone3367 North African countries we have french as second language , English we started to learn it's (my time ) in highschool , you choice between , English / Spanish or dutch ....
This is probably one of the most gripping, unsettling and moving interviews I've ever seen. Not dramatic or sentimental at all, just sincere, empathetic, and thoughtful. I feel small next to this man. He is so humble, kind and friendly. Hearing about the magnitude of injustice he was dealt, and seeing the equanimity and grace he carries himself with despite all that is honestly breathtaking. It's hard to fathom the darkness that a person would have to be possessed by in order to see him as any type of villain, let alone one who could be brutalized and deprived of life in such a callous, pointless way. His smile melts my jaded, stoic heart. God only knows what nightmarish existence could be still happening for others who didn't make it out of that kafkaesque hellhole and all the others like it that we may never even know about in our lifetime. I'm so grateful for this window on the insanity of the 'war on terror'. I hope it is seen by many people. It needs to be. Thanks to both of these great men. May justice await the torturers.
As I always felt: There better be a Hell beyond this little realm. Addenum: The Fairytale, as the Endurers have learned, Is Real!
Very humbling indeed to be witnessing such grace in spite of what he went through, but also the weight of those psychological wounds he must still carry with him for the rest of his life.
A privilege to watch JP's therapeutic work.
@@Tourtiere34 Perhaps it is,to some extent, judicious for Mohammedou to keep his pain? If, when, Our Creator chooses to reveal to him that all pain associated with his past can be, through Christ, washed away, annihilated in the blink of an eye, Mohammedou will be released from any pain associated with his memories. Would the world really be served at this juncture if he were to forget and not reveal the atrocities? He is well on his way to understanding the greatest truth, I would venture to guess. Remember: A rose by any other name, is still a rose, thus: The true God who manifested here on earth to thousands as a man in the essence of the Christ, whatever you may call Him, is still Creator Supreme; still has the same absolute power and authority and does whatever He likes.
@@rhondagodwin3991 Perfect
His smile kept me smiling the whole interview. This man's smile is contagious.
After watching this interview, i feel relieved to say that i forgive people that have hurt me in anyway, i feel free. If this man can forgive those that took him through hell, there is no reason for me to hold onto the past. Jordan, this was such a great interview, this was like a therapy session.
God saw your trouble. He will give you more than you will ever need for that trouble .
No you dont forgive you dweeb. If you just forgive anybody they GET A HABIT of hurting you. They start thinking hurting you is fine and its fair game. They will make hurting you into a profit which they will then market fir more money.
If someone hurts you, YOU TAKE REVENGE and thats how to stop evil. MAke an example.
Live freely. Live peacefully. Live happily. If anyone harms you, become DEATH and give them what they deserve.
@@vorpalinferno9711 I understand your point but honestly forgiving and moving on for me at least was a better option. I struggled with anger and wrath towards the people who hurt me for a long time and eventually I came to the realization that revenge is not the answer. I accepted what happened and I distanced myself from those individuals but I never forgot what they did.
@@saddreams3449 Okay. How about rape? if a rapist rapes anyone they want the victims just forgive?
The rapist can just continue having fun with anyone. Because rapist knows that victims will eventually forgive.
@@vorpalinferno9711 I understand where you're coming from, but for me Allah the Almighty will bring justice between everyone in the Day of Judgement. And forgiving your enemies will cause you to elevate in the ranks and possibly enter the higher levels of Paradise. (In Islam btw rapists are stoned to death )
Allah bless him , he remembered every single details from how the egg was cooked in Germany to every single feeling he experienced.
He kept smiling , Allah reward you brother
Ameen
Cause he was an actor not an whatever they are talking about lol
@@xxCrimsonSpiritxx You Are Right 👍 I Agree With You
@@truthindia8689 funny coming from an Indian,someone who eats cowp00p the cow itself is smarter than u
"The Mauretanian intelligence. Or the lack thereof." What a legend.
He is very smart, sharp I would say.
@@grabdaCikan his wit takes no prisoners.
@@MrGreenAKAguci00 cute pic cuz
Mauritanian
sense of humour sharp as a tack, especially in his 5th language, learned so late. really says something
I don't know many things about life, but as a Christian, I testify that the hearts of many Muslim friends are pure, good. I'm lucky to have had great and generous friends in the middle east, what an experience. It does not matter about money, rich or poor, it will invite you with an Arabic tee, greet you with a smile, share their time with you. God bless you all.
@@amyrenee1361 as a new muslim, I believe Jesus pbuh was a prophet of God just like
*Adam*
*Enoch*
*Noah*
*Heber*
*Methusaleh*
*Lot*
*Abraham*
*Ishmael*
*Isaac*
*Jacob*
*Joseph*
*Jethro*
*Job*
*Ezekiel*
*Moses*
*Aaron*
*David*
*Solomon*
*Elias*
*Elisha*
*Jonah*
*Zachariah*
*John the Baptist* and
*Muhammad*
( peace be upon them all )
And He was given the gospels just like Moses was given the torah.
We believe
- *_God is One_*
- *_the Absolute and isn't in need of anything_*
- *_He begets not, nor was He begotten_*
- *_The creator is not like the creations_*
- *_We don't need a mediator to have a connection with him_*
❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@amyrenee1361 hi!
No intent to insult anyone, but that line of Jesus (pbuh) “no one comes to the father except through me” actually contradicts a lot of concepts in Bible (which we, as Muslim, believe to be a Holy Scripture, but through time, wrong translation and intentionally corruption) became twisted, but the Word of God shouldn’t be confusing anyone, right?
It should not, because it is the right path and in the Bible it is said:
(1 Corinthians 14:33) “For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.” Holy Trinity, 3 parts of 1 God, it is all confusion from the start! Three will never be One not mathematically nor logically.
There is also nowhere in the Bible where Jesus says he is the God and people should worship him. In fact, if Jesus is the God (or a part of it) then he is omniscient, all-knowing and all-hearing, but how come that omniscient God doesn’t know when will the Day of Judgement come?
(Matthew 24:36):
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
This means that NO ONE in the heavens, including the Holy Spirit knows the date of the day of Judgement, but Father! This concept is the same as the concept in Islam, no one has that knowledge, except for Allah Almighty. In fact, Islam is the only Abrahamic (besides Christianity) religion that accepts Jesus as a prophet and believing in him is mandatory.
I strongly recommend you to read Qu’ran, as we are the same Abrahamic religion and we call to worship only One God, the same God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, in fact you will gain a lot more detailed knowledge about the God, angels or prophets and it will never confuse you
@Кайл no, stop lying!
Muslim on Arabic (مُسْلِم) means one who surrender to God, we never attribute the God a son or a daughter, it is nonsense
@@amyrenee1361 Good grief, have read any of the bible? Read chapter 3 of Romans. Read gospel of John. Your questions belie fundamental ignorance. Jesus is making an exclusive claim, he is the ONLY way.
I haven’t seen my children for 9 months and I cried almost every day, his mother died not see him released from prison. I feel so small compared to this guy. Peace and forgiveness is what we all should aim for. My love to everyone regardless of their faith, race or colour.
Well said and really wish you the best 🙌🏻
Thank you guys for the kind words🙏
Thank you guys for the kind words🙏
It gets better my friend. Its all about the outlook we have and the positive energy we give out onto the world. No one can change the past, only try to make a better future from here on out. Peace and love from Michigan.
@@neogeo1670 this man's a living example of how wrong you are they may scream the similar words like muslims but they don't even know the basics
He truly embodies the sunnah of forgiveness may Allah bless you Nd easre your pain brother
He stole everything from his hotel room’s washroom hahaha. So innocently mentioned in here.
@@peacepeace5732 You need to reflect on yourself. You left all the pain; physical and psychological, he endured while still keeping his smile and pure soul and just remembered the "thieft" of an innocent young boy. Waaw!
@@ayanaguib984 You have no idea how much I shed tears while listening to his extremely sad and heart breaking story. I salute to this unique mentally strong man who is still smiling and announcing that he has already forgiven all those devils in human’s body who put to a living hell in this world for the crime that he never committed.
@@peacepeace5732 No worries :) May Allah help us all from the unjustice that is everywhere.
@@ayanaguib984 Amen
I cried for this man. He went to hell and back and yet he seems like such a friendly and humble person. I hope, after all the evil that has been done to you, you find peace and serenity in this life.
Don't be so easy to manipulate.
Iam just 30min in but he is already lying about Mauretania a lot.
Did he mentation that his cousin was AL Qaida member Abu Hafs al-Mauritania ?
Did he mention that he was in 2 training camps AL farouq and gardez in Afghanistan in the early 90s?
Did he mention that Ramzi Binalshibh and other terrorists slept in his Appartement in Duisburg in 1999 ?
Did he mention that he had email contact with jihadist Christian Ganczarski?
Did he mentioned that his German visa wasn't extended cause he was found guilty of social fraud in 1999?
@@Larrypint Yes, he did say he was in Afghanistan and he didnt like it. So what. Otherwise none of what you say is a crime.
This is the thing we don’t seek serenity in this life but the next that’s why he is the way he is
Amin
US was paying and sending ppl there at that time to fight against Russian invasion of Afghanistan. Study your country's history
"'The accused is innocent until proven guilty' only your mother believe this"
Oh man... I love this guy. God grant him justice.
JP improved a lot. This interview was flawless. Impressive story, I’m speechless, this is the most moving interview I ever watched.
Yes. He started interrupting a lot, and sometimes still does, he listened very well here, and asked surgical questions to enable the best of the story to come out.
Iam just 30min in. Did he mentation that his cousin was AL Qaida member Abu Hafs al-Mauritania ?
Did he mention that he was in 2 training camps AL farouq and gardez in Afghanistan in the early 90s?
Did he mention that Ramzi Binalshibh and other terrorists slept in his Appartement in Duisburg in 1999 ?
Did he mention that he had email contact with jihadist Christian Ganczarski?
Did he mentioned that his German visa wasn't extended cause he was found guilty of social fraud in 1999?
@@Larrypint you forgot to mention your point
@@fabianbravo6008 my point is, this man is lying from A to Z.
@@Larrypint lmao, where did you get this info, mate? Must be CIA post-torture “confess” they got after 14 years of mentally and physically killing tortures
Listening to his story was hard enough, had to shed tears few times when he shares the stories about torture. Living with such experience yet with beautiful smiles shows how strong this man is. He's indeed a believer.
the fact that he holds no grudges and resentment against anyone after all he's been through shows how powerful of a person he is.
This right here is the highest level of existence.
I disagree.
@@studiomonster-c9l care to explain?
...meanwhile in Western countries people are resentful because they need to wear a mask and lose their shit because they can't get a hair cut
How do you know he doesn't.
@@denziljoe how about losing basic human rights, without ever having associated with terrorist organisations whatsoever?
Belittling the rise of totalitarianism isn't the way to go.
After all this, he has the incredible ability to smile, forgive and move on. Respect.
@@unitedstatesirie7431 That’s not funny.
Did you miss the section where he spoke about his ptsd and depression or what?
@@clinch4402 I think it's more his ability to remain coherent and more than functioning despite it.
@@brodieclamp5090 Not at all. It reads as though someone watched a few minutes and clicked off the video. Mohamedou even states that he was smiling in Guantanomo despite the fear, pain and gross conditions. He's currently in serious need of international medical help and he can't leave his country. To suggest this poor man has "moved on" couldn't be more tone-deaf for a video describing human rights atrocities.
@@clinch4402you've misinterpreted what I've said, I mean the fact he's not a mumbling wreck and hasn't killed himself is a testament to the man's strength.
It left an impression on me when he spoke about being faced with death that the only thing he cared about was whether he was nice to others. That is such a good reminder to take with us.
😭😭
Mohamedou, your mother is absolutely…absolutely correct… you have value. You are a good person. You are a very important person. Always remember that. Thank you for sharing your story, your trials and tribulations. Peace to you.
This is the FIRST time in my life I sat for 2hrs and 42mins straight and listened. I have severe attention deficiency (adhd) but not only couldn’t I turn away, I actually held my pee in the whole way so it was torturous when he spoke about how relieved he was peeing.
Best comment
Adhd bros
Same boat, I need to sleep but its too interesting, hyperfocus can be a bitch
😂 good thing you didn't release it upon hearing pee
I have interview tomorrow morning but I still kept watching this late into the night as you’re right this interview was indeed gripping.
Same
This is so haunting, when he said I didn’t see my mother again my heart skipped a beat. He is testimony of human ability to survive and transcend
Heartbreaking
this is testimony of the criminality of the US regime
If he’s telling the truth 🤷🏼♀️he could also be a very manipulative person and just playing out a character… you can’t understand a person from one ☝🏼 story
@@jerusalem5646 u think the government wouldn't call him a liar if he lied about anything? They call people who tell truth liars just to protect their image.
@@jumatron2060 so basically you think 🤔 he lied 🤥
It is nice to see someone like Jordan asking inquisitive questions without ulterior motives.
Thank you for using ulterior, I didnt know that was a word and always thought it was alterior i now have however discovered that i had it backwards 😂😂😂
Although quite often, he asks for clarification of explanations already given and unnecessarily interrupts the flow of the testimony.
@@crazywazydoublehazy I noticed that too. Jordan Peterson has to make his podcast interesting to his viewers, and I suspect he is trying to guide the flow in a direction that he believes is interesting to his viewers.
Because he doesn't know al tawba 9.29 hahaha
U s o n of insufficient in religion and brain
@@Sacrosanctelite lol
After watching the movie, you tend to understand why some of these innocent men become terrorists. The level of torture that the US government inflicted on this man is despicable, even after he won the case. Yet, this man chose to forgive. Wow! Admirable!
@@partofme100 he maybe forgiving them for himself, not for them!! If he held onto the anger who does it hurt?? It hurts him, not them!! You don’t forgive someone for them, you forgive so you can move forward to a better life!!
@@partofme100What does he gain by not forgiving? He is still speaking out against the evil things done to him, he's simply choosing not to hate people that have nothing to do with what was done, as well as choosing not to be bitter about what he endured. You think that righteous anger is magically going to allow him to prosecute those who hurt him? Grow up
After the description of “pure chaos” during his torture, I teared up and wanted nothing more than to embrace Mohamedou and let him know that he is my brother. A brother who is to his core, and example of humanity’s true worth. We have a capacity for evil but an even greater capacity to love one another. Thank you for bringing this Hero to your audience Dr. Peterson.
David, you're a good man. You need to learn about Islam brother. Don't follow the religion of these torturers which leads to darkness. Islam is the only religion of God that teaches respect, mercy, kindness, justice, etc.
Peace!
@@Omar-jy1gr After some time on this Earth I don’t think anyone can claim to have THE answer to the “one” religion. Many Christians fall short of Christ’s teachings, many Buddhists fail to remain free from Earths temptations, and even Muslims forget to keep their sacraments. All any man or woman can do is better themselves for their children, tell the truth, and stand up for those without the ability to do so. The religion which motivates you only aligns you with a particular group on the planet. We are all aligned by our humanity.
@@daviddisilvestro2978 Read the Quran ♥️
This is the kind of man who changes history
Please, don't be so emotional! Don't be confused. This is his belief----Quran(9:30) "...May Allah destroy them ( the Jews and Christians )....."
Quran(9:123) "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhoods"
Quran(22:19) "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire,hooked unto
rods,boiling water,melt their skins and bellies".
Quran (47:4) "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels;behead them
when you catch them"
Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the
hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless
journey's end.
Quran (2;191) "Slay the unbelievers where ever you find them"
Quran(3:28) "Muslim's must not take infidels as their friends"
Quran(3:85 "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable"
Quran (5;33) "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam"
Quran(8:12) "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures
other than the Quran"
Quran(8:60) "Muslim's must muster all weapons to terrorize the Infidels"
Quran(8:65) "The unbelievers are stupid,urge the Muslim's to fight them"
Quran(9:5) SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists
wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in
wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent,
establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed,
Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.Quran(9:5)
Moroccan as I am, our neighbours to the south, are the nicest, most forgiving and simplistic of folks. This man just confirmed what we long knew about these people. No grudges, just peace of mind and love for others.
They recognize the polisario and were the last country that abolished slavery
Yeah sure but it's in Morocco where they have so many CIA black sites where they abuse, rape and torture many innocent people who haven't even gone in trial.
Many shameful things in Morocco, there are many people like this man suffering in Morocco and nobody knows but your government is okay with this doing the dirty work for America.
@@blackexcellence2280
Who told you that harki ? You don’t have any evidence of what you are saying do you ? I mean compared to it’s entourage, and I am talking about the military regime of Algeria who killed 10 thousands of Algerians , you can say that Morocco is the most democratic regime in the region with a long history..
Do most Mauritanians have a gentle demeanor like this guy?
@@gregmezera6571 generally, yes!
Most folks of the region have a certain decency and simplicity (that I was raised with too) that exceeds western standards
Wow, this episode left me with a lot to think about, not much else to say. This was right up there with Yeonmi Park. Thanks for having Mohamedou on.
I echo every word of that statement
oh my, this is gonna be a wild ride. The Yeonmi Park one changed me.
@@andrewteece3496 cu up
Yeonmi is fake and about this guy we dont know yet, dont just trust people.
All this began with his fathers camel herd could not be sustained anymore, but there is a solution to that which they need to learn about.
I couldnt listen because they didnt talk about this. I feel so sad that we have answers but struggle to get people to listen.
The way he described the last time he saw his mom made me broke into tears. May god bless her soul Amen 🙏🏽
He's absolutely a hero for surviving all of this and still smile. I'm just wondering how many other innocent people had to face this kind of torture 💔
Why was he even sold out in the first place 🤷🏼♀️his own people betrayed him for money 💰
Hes still lucky as somany came out in bodybags or are still inthere or lost there heads as well as there families and life
@@jerusalem5646 - Why did the evil American system let this happen to this man and thousands of others? That’s the million dollar question.
Just under 800 people have been kept in Guantanamo bay prison, with half being released according to the untrustworthy American government.
I imagine many of the innocent prisoners America captured have lost their minds and there is no way back for them. Don’t forget them - they’re heroes too.
untold billions for time immemorial
As usual, I was notified (on my phone), that J.P.’s new episode is ready to view. And as usual, I proceeded to listen, while working on another driftwood piece…..
Only 15 minutes into it, I could no longer do anything else, but to listen closely and watch.
Wow, I am truly overwhelmed, and speechless. I don’t own a television set, and my movie watching experience, is very limited. But, as soon as this podcast was over, I watched the trailer of this movie, and then I read and watched everything that I was able to find (on line), about this incredible human being….
He is definitely an angel, who decided to come down to earth, to show us the true power of Love.
I can’t stop crying…
His journey is incredible, and so powerful. Only because of such human beings, such angels, like Mohamedou, we (the human race), still have a chance of survival.
Thank you.
beautifully written. Agreed
Ooh, I also work on driftwood art.
There's not a bunch of us ☆
I'm a US veteran. I've never really been particularly proud about that. It was just a small part of my life. However hearing stories like this kind of makes me feel ashamed of it. I'm not quite sure what to do with that. I certainly got some thinking to do. 1 thing I know is this man is not now nor has he ever been my enemy. His story has moved me to tears.
I am not an American, but I respect the hard work and sacrifice you guys do. Not just for your country but for all you stand for.
God bless you
@@mazimadu thank you and god bless you too.
I will tell you about a horrible experience that I'm going through everyday. I am from Pakistan and I was 19 or 20 years old and there was a family in my neighborhood and the guy had four kids and then went to the tribal area for a wedding in their relatives and a US drone bombed the house. The next day we heard that the guy had lost two kids and when I saw the half burned and body parts of those small kids. The father would pick the detached hands and feet and would clean and kiss those small fingers. Now I have a three years old son. It's so hard to look at his hands. I can't hold my tears when I kiss his hands. This is my first time to share this experience. I hate wars, weapons, army and politicians. I wish at least my son won't see any torture or things in his life.
@@asadmech12 thanks for sharing. We hate the same things , and want the same things for our children my friend.
Unfortunatelly David, the USA is obsessed with guns, war and bad guys. Hard to know what it will do in the next few years, hopefully young Americans will challange the need for the next inevitable war.
The best interview I've ever watched. May Allah grant us a heart as strong as this mans and may he serve he's torturers the justice they deserve
I have never cried so much watching anything in my life. I have no words to describe this. One lesson I learn is just love no matter what. Love is the only thing that can free us.
Very well said. Love and respect for all.
Yr a good man.. God bless you
I believe justice does, not Love.
Justice
Love is a very missunderstood concept, I think, because to be able to love 'something' or 'someone' you must know this 'something or someone' because otherwise how can you love it if you dont know it. If you love someone but dont know them, then you love your view of the someone, and not the actual someone, so In my view, love = knowledge.
Such a kind, gentle, and strong man with unwavering faith. Thank you Dr. Peterson for giving this man a platform!
He already had a platform…best selling book and a blockbuster movie!
Part of his story that touched me the most, is his mother. Living by it & dying in that shame while he was unable to see her or attend her burial.
The world we live in
Don't hang out with terrorists then
@@AK-hi7mg you mean the United States of Terrorists?
Why would she die in shame? I bet she always held her head high and was proud of him.
@@AK-hi7mg War criminals US army why do you think vets keep killing themselves. You can't dash out pain and suffering without expecting it to come back at you in one form or another.
@@AK-hi7mg the us end is so close , closer then any empire has passed in history, y’all empire’s won’t last more than 50 years from now 😿😹
You are an incredibly graceful person, Mohamedou. I don't have the words to express how impressed I am by your positive attitude and your resilience. None of those are the appropriate words, but I'm moved by your strength. God bless you.
Mohamedou Ould Slahi, I apologize to you for all the injustice done to you by my countrymen, thankyou for your courage to survive and tell your story. I am so Impressed with your grace to overcome this dark chapter of your life and make the world a better place by teaching us all. may blessings and peace follow you.
When the rest of the world hears you saying thank you for your service, it is these kinds of stories and countless others that didn’t become movies or books that we think of.
This is what the world sees your army as, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, Bargam, And the invasion of so many countries.
I truly hope you never thank anyone participating in organizations that do this to people, even if they are your own.
@@AM-bj7yo well said 👍
I think this interview has changed me. Especially when he realised his life is done, the only regrets that he wasn't better and nicer
Jordan is still contributing a lot to humanity. I realy wish him well
At first, I thought that there is no way I'm gonna finish an almost 3 hour podcast. About 20 mins in, I was hooked. His story was so horrifyingly vivid. Like I was watching a movie in my head as he continued telling the story. Very sad to live "virtually" what he had gone through, yet very happy that the end was not so much worse. Dr. JP, you are a great listener, and an amazing interviewer. Great content as always and I am huge fan.
I see this man that I don’t know and my heart gets filled with pain because of his history. I see him smiling and at the same time a see the sadness through his eyes. May God keep you and bless you and heal you. Wow
Thank you for this interview. It has opened my sight to how cruel people can be, how resilient they can be and how forgiving they can be. God be with you Mohamedou
Didn’t expect to listen to that entire interview in one sitting. There is so much to unpack that I’m not even sure I know how I feel about humanity.
Omg he went through a lot of horror times. I am just crying all the vedio..O Allah please grant him blessed and peaceful life in this world and the hereafter.
Ameen ya Rabb.
Ameen
Aaamin! Aamen!
I feel so ashamed that an innocent man could have been held captive for so long, so much of his life taken away and is still able to forgive. What an amazing example of what a person can endure. Hope the rest of his life he can live in peace and enjoy life. Amazing man!
He is not the only one i watched 13 ep about another guy from that prison.tears...
@@MaxP374 what was the name of the other man
@@sisiohp2501 Faiz Mohammed Ahmed Al Kandari.
this is not the story of one man but hundreds and thousands of man were held hostages in guantanombey and Abu gharib jail
I feel compelled to comment just to say how much I admire Jordan. I've listened to his lectures and podcast as well as his daughter's podcast for years now. I'm a 30 year old guy that's been homeless and suffering from severe anxiety for 7 years now. Although I've been on methadone since 2015 and clean I have yet to clean my room up. Jordan's compassion with intelligence and no nonsense approach to fixing things has always been alluring to me. When things are down I try and imagine what Jordan would say to me in that moment. I have no family and feel like he gives me an idea of a father figure/ therapist/ mentor/ friend when I need it most. I haven't missed a podcast yet. I wish to one day be able to get into school to study maths as that and the physical sciences has always been my interest and truly is my motivation to get up everyday. I pray that in time I become more confident, less awkward, and in a place where I'm a bit more content and surrounded by positive people I can show my love to. Thank you Dr. Peterson for being a guiding light to me. It's meant a lot. You've helped more people than I'm sure you can fathom, and that are in situations that are more unique and varied than anyone can comprehend. Thanks man. Thanks.
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to hear that one of his guards at gitmo and he are good friends and godfathers' to each others' children is so powerful love indeed does win
Not a guard but an Air Force Lt. Col and lawyer
No, his prison guard. Being godfathers to each other's children ..this broke me - waterworks. How some people can be so beautiful and so big gives me more hope than anything I've heard in forever.
@@mahamirza2388 @Maha Mirza Yes, exactly! He went through all of this horrible stuff and yet he holds no grudge. He's ready to invite everyone from Guantanamo Bay to his house - this is like a divine level of forgiveness. It reminds me of how Jesus asked the Father to forgive those who had crucified Him. As far as I'm concerned, Mr Mohamedou is a saint
@@Mi-guo-wai I haven't stopped thinking of him, his smile, jokes, and conclusion about what matters the most in life - being nice to others. I feel guilty for my rather baseless self pity and will hold onto his recounted experience to be stronger, more compassionate and more grateful.
@@mahamirza2388 yeah, his story puts my petty problems into perspective and his total forgiveness and total love can really teach humility. I hope I'll never forget this lesson
Wow the great irony. He was so scared to be alone initially and now he can only feel safe when he is alone.
Such a sad story
He is broken now. If all people saw were how nice, smiley and friendly this guy was, they are missing a key consequence of this story. That a man was destroyed by other men.
@@fs5775 broken? Hes handling himself way better than most people would if they went thru the same
I don’t know if he can only feel safe alone or just with minimum people around… I know he said he feels better alone but earlier in the interview he stated that he can only fall asleep with someone next to him (watching him).
@@thinkingagain5966 Yes and hes still broken. He even admits that.
@@dannyc7227 that was when he first went to an apartment for the first time and had to sleep alone after living his whole life prior sleeping with people/family around him then spent a decade alone which he then adapted to that
What a remarkable human being. How he can show such strength after such hardship is beyond me. A fantastic interview and a story I could not possibly imagine to experience and still smile at the end of it
Wow that prayer he made to Allah guide me, was when he confessed saying he was a criminal but he wasn't BUT that lead him to the lie detector and he got out. His prayer was answered. Alhamdulilah.
I got goosebumps all over my body, realizing how weak my faith in Allah is compared to him.
يا مقلب القلوب ثبت قلبي على دينك 🤲🏾
As an American citizen I find that holding this man..any man, uncharged. Without proof of any kind is reprehensible. This is not my America. I apologize for what you have been so cruelly put through..so senseless...You are a hero among men. Your courage. Your willingness to forgive is beyond belief. I wish you
all the joy and peace that you deserve. Thank you too Dr. Peterson. Hearing this man's story puts my petty problems in their place.
My thoughts exactly. This is not American
This has been America, and it still is
Unfortunately this IS America and has been since its inception. That doesn't mean that there aren't really good people trying to change it. Some of those people are what Mr. Peterson pejoratively calls Social Justice Warriors, but often these are people who see injustices like this and are trying to change it (admittedly sometimes not using the best strategy).
Please look up Kalief Browder's story and the cash bail system which a lot of organizations are trying to end to see just ONE way how this happens to people in America on a regular basis.
It’s happening now with the arrests and detainment of those unfortunates who were allowed into Capitol Hill.
@@homeygdoggydogg There aren't enough of US. Who have the time..or the Money, which explains the time thing...to stop attempting to care for our own Families, since Regan decimated the Unions. to take the time necessary to effectively make a difference. And..since " Citizens United " our Representatives no longer work for We The People...the work for Corporate America...this is I fear is the end of our experiment with Democracy...
He has such a kindness in his eyes still----- despite being nearly tortured to death every single day for years.
Smiling and radiant in the opening image, whereas Jordan Peterson looks like he has the weight of the world on him ... perhaps he has been through something worse?
@@macfunkey yeah notice at the end he tells Peterson to "get healthy". I believe he can see a certain familiar sense of pain coming from Peterson.
@@macfunkey Pain is relative -- and everyone's tolerance -- ability to fully process it- whether it's purely inner and emotional/ mental or outer and physical varies--- It's hard to compare Jordan and this person---- both have experienced extreme 'pain'--- but it's like comparing apples to oranges--- different in terms of form and duration-- but both equally valid
@@TheSwitch87 good observation. Both of these men I believed struggled with depression and were on anti-depression medication. I also recall that Peterson has mentioned often that depression runs in his family.
This. My life is nothing like his, at all, but in so many ways, I feel myself falling apart day to day. Seeing how genuinely happy and kind this guy can seem, after the horrors he has endured......
I have hope. If this guy can still be happy, I don't think any of us have excuse.
Your attitude towards all this is forgiveness!! What a human being!! I salute you my brother and I’ll keep you in prayer to heal from all your trauma and live a joyful life!!
May Allah heal all your wounds physically and psychologically. I pray that your life is filled with happiness, love and good health. Thank you, Jordan.
This is a riveting interview. Dr. Peterson, who tends to speak more than his guests, were unusually subdued. Mohamedou Ould Salahi managed to transcend his torturous experience to arrive at profound insight about the dangers of unchecked government power. He seems to have achieved a state of grace even though he still suffers from PTST. What a shameful waste such a remarkable and talented person was wrongly imprisoned and tortured for 16 years.
Yes, Canadian’s and American’s might do well to be acutely aware about the dangers of unchecked government spending and power! Power is so intoxicating and the ‘love of money is the root of all evil.’ I am thankful that my gracious Lord, King of Kings, opens my eyes and helps me with these things, although He continues.
It is certainly not a waste if we can learn from him and his experiences. What an amazing human.
@@Maria-ox2qu agreed. Let's live out our lives with meaning and purpose.
Thank you to bring this guy Professor! As an Arab guy from Algeria with a mother of bedouin origins, I am glad to see Mohamed speak out his mind in his very true bedouin way (very explicative, not judgmental, open minded, pure hearted and very honest in conveying stories, they are the best at it). It's good for the deep western thinker to see that these people (my people are pearls in this planet) :) Also, all the strength he has is from Islam. That what keeps us alive and hoping
So Germany, Canada and Senegal couldn't find anything on this sunshine of a man, and USA "intelligence" took it upon themselves to prove to everyone how superior and foresighted they were by kidnapping him and keeping him against all reason !
The audacity of these modern tyrants to teach us about humanity and democracy is really hallucinating.
Well put. They are experts in evil for sure . I really think they have gaslighted the world.
this one is fascinating for its connection to al queda when they were allies in the fight against russians. One doesnt go off to war and bond with their band of brothers as he did in the early 90s and drop all communication with them after its over. Thats the sense I get from all I've read about him, he severed with al queda after helping in the fight against russia but then likely continued with the personal connections he made in afghanistan. Unfortunately, some of those connections may have been involved with 9/11 planning as the 90s decade came to a close, though not him.There must be other Slahi's as well, maybe dozens, if they werent killed by the russians (or later by the americans).
tear up. WHAT A STORY. I have never watched an interview for almost 3 hours until this interview. Letting go and having no grudges made this man survive. The subtle interaction between Jordan and Ould Slahi was honestly humanely amazing to watch. Salute
I'm lost for words. It's just astounding, if this man can make peace with his captors and torturers then governments have no excuse not to make peace with one another. Thank you both for this.
I really don't have the attention span required for such a long format. This interview had me stuck to my chair. At times holding back tears. Most of us would probably be crushed by treatment Mohamedou endured. As a christian there are things I can learn from this man (about forgiveness and attitude to others).
Forgiveness. That's what Islam teach us
I'm an American and It's definitely a shame that this man was mistreated by my country. It is our loss because he is a wonderful human being. Jordan is right we need to do better.
Mistreated : intensity of this word ; Tortured
Better is not the right word my friend, The appropriate word is we need to STOP.
Just this man? What about the millions of people that have been killed by your unjust wars, or the billions of people who are suffering due to your corrupt monetary system? If you have just become aware of this type of thing going on now, I don't know what to say. My people and most of humanity are suffering to extreme levels on a per sec basis, and your country and culture are a big reason why. You don't need to hear a Guantanamo story to realise this. But hey, if you have now opened your eyes then the least I can say is welcome, and I hope you spread the word.
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
Your comment stings of arrogance, mistreated and do better! Imagine you've gone through 50% of what he has gone through and many many people like him still going through, would you still use the same words, or you gonna use words like TORTURE and STOP.
His smile during the interview put me into tears. JBP, amazing interview and interventions. Keep'em coming so we can grow stronger and more empathic.
I watched the movie and some scene were really traumatising to watch, imagine how traumatising it was for him, SubhanAllah, may Allah make it easy for him and give him the best in the afterlife ameen
What moved me most (so many things moved me about this interview) was his description of being in the hotel alone in Germany. To be 17/18 years old and never have been alone in a room speaks volumes. How many times throughout our childhood had we been alone in our room “bored”??? Meanwhile, this man (and millions of others) have never gotten to experience a night alone in a room? Alone with their thoughts, alone to do whatever it is they wanted to do. Mind blowing.
Wow u r so right small house with 6 .7 8.9 siblings all over the room chit chats 1 tv only on till 10 if u lucky enought to have one or have electricity .western kids can never imagen .works both ways good and bad
Yoru weak, that's what moves you.. "emotions", cut your unit off and move to San Deigo.. lol
@@runningdrew6654 Everyone is moved by emotion, without emotions there is no reason to do anything. The fact that you took the time to write this comment means that you have some form of emotion. I have seen other comments that you have written in this comment section too and it is clear you are also driven by emotion, negative emotion. Like spite or self protective narccissm mabye.
Interesting note
It’s Quran power He derives his strength from the Qur'an, he memorizes the Book of God
Gripping. Thank you, Jordan, for a totally immersive look into the struggles of Mohamedou who truly was dealt a very bad hand. I think I have finally started breathing again. The resilience of the human spirit is amazing. Mohamedou is an amazing spirit.
Mohamedou is an amazing spirit, as you said, and a beautiful soul. This conversation is HUMAN, and I guess that is what gripped me too :)
This man is amazing. So related with the way the Dictadura here in Argentina operated, but i just wanted to point at how good Peterson was at letting him talk and supporting him while he walked through those traumatic times, and how grateful he is of having a chance to talk to Peterson. Tough conversation but full of joy and healing and forgiveness
What is great about him .. his familys slaves ? His tribe eat your tribe? No test ? The child rape? What is it you like best about him?
@@Mike_E_DeShaman sorry who?
@@rubio.laureano the guy being interviewed
I dont believe anything he said and I could see neither Jordan.
This was a life changing interview for me. His goodness simply emanates from the very core of his being. Thank you very much for allowing us to hear his story. I will try to follow his example of kindness. We have all been given the opportunity to understand injustice here in Canada. May we all have the ability to forgive, to the degree Mohamedou has.
The part where he explained that his only regret when he though he was going to die was that he wasn't a kinder person legitimately made me cry.
Well iam just 30min in. Did he mentation that his cousin was AL Qaida member Abu Hafs al-Mauritania ?
Did he mention that he was in 2 training camps AL farouq and gardez in Afghanistan in the early 90s?
Did he mention that Ramzi Binalshibh and other terrorists slept in his Appartement in Duisburg in 1999 ?
Did he mention that he had email contact with jihadist Christian Ganczarski?
Did he mentioned that his German visa wasn't extended cause he was found guilty of social fraud in 1999?
I have leant so much about humanity or lack thereof during this interview…..powerful
Ive learned so much about humanity and lack thereof in the last 20 months….doesn’t bode well as we head to our Great Reset and the neo Tyranny of Technocracy
minor spelling mistake
Learnt or learned.
@Kiki Kiki how??? Did this testimony not lead to a broader investigation?
Speechless… thank you Mohamedou for your story we are all blessed that you exist and thank you Jordon I haven’t got words to describe how I feel…
It's so strange how this man started out loving to be around people in his youth and was afraid to be alone but after Guantanamo they broke him down to the point where people made him uncomfortable. So sad how they could destroy someone's livelihood like that. So glad you got out and young enough to enjoy your freedom into your future.
What happened to him is so immoral!
Remarkable Guest! Thank You! I have worked in Criminal/Aboriginal Justice for 40+ years! I have studied body language cross culturally and culture specific! Incredibly honest interview!
Sadly alot of others haven't goten out of there alive 😪
I m an Arab .. and a Muslim .. and it hurts so much .. to hear all of that
God have mercy on us .. God protect us and our families and loved ones .. My God this is tragic
Yes this is the most extreme form of breaking a human, but this country and its UK cousins have broken millions in fact billions of people in lesser more disguised forms of torture every single day .
"I've read books and I was thinking of the brave people who survived torture, and I knew I was not that brave person" that cracked me up, feel you man
Wow! This interview literally brought me to tears. What an honour it is to hear from this man. Thank you Jordan for giving him the platform and sharing this heart wrenching story with a strong undercurrent of hope for humanity.
I admire how Dr. Peterson asks these dark and difficult questions to simply understand the person in front of him, to know what their experience is like. This is so important for us to understand each other, and to understand ourselves.
Mohamedou is an amazing person, I can't believe how he could forgive the people who tortured him. He must have strong faith in our creator, that's why he is in peace with himself and smiles all the time. Allah is the greatest :) Peace and love.
All praise to Allah who gave us a brain that can forget and forgive
Many Christians forgive as well. Try reading about Jim Elliot and Corrie Ten Boom just two people among many who have forgiven. FORGIVENESS is the main message of the gospels. Jesus Christ Himself says on the cross as He is being crucified, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do.” Just sharing….
@@safyaniqbal2 yet Jesus was a Jewish man raised in the customs of His culture. I see Jewish people practicing that custom now. How could it not have been their custom? The Bible is a Jewish book to be understood in that culture within during that time. Forgiveness also doesn’t always mean to allow the crime committed to go unpunished.There are consequences to one’s behavior. In the court of law, a person can be forgiven by a relative but the LAW still holds that person accountable and punishment is administered. The Bible is a book of law as well, laws people abide by and the law of the land in America adheres to as well such as the Ten Commandments.
@@vaquera9368 I've read the bible, our religions are so similar because I believe they are from the same source but we like to alienate each other.
God said in the Quran "We have revealed the Book to you (Muhammad) in all Truth. It confirms the Bible and has the authority to preserve or abrogate what the Bible contains. Judge among them by what God has revealed to you and do not follow their desires instead of the Truth which has come to you. We have given a law and a way of life to each of you. Had God willed, He could have made you a single nation, but He tests you through what He has given you. So compete in righteousness. To God is your return, all of you; then He will inform you of what you had disputed"
Tough question. Tough answer. Experience speaks.
This strengthens me. They can take my body but never my mind. Humans belong free. Death is preferable to tyranny. There is a better place for the soul than here…
The beings within life are sick, human beings are despicable in particulara
@@novictim sick implies than can be cured... is that what you meant? Or the more sinister version?
While death is preferable to tyranny, I can’t help but feel our souls chose this life to help stop tyranny, because we felt we could, or knew we could.
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 good observation, we are able to be cured but I don't see that happening en masse anytime soon.
@@novictim Ah, ok cool. i have a harder time sifting those things out. Thanks! I agree.
After all of that, the smile on his face when he explained his relationship with that guy and that they are godfathers to each other’s children… this episode left me with a lot to think about. My problems seem that much more insignificant, and my ungratefulness to life has become suddenly apparent. Thank you for this episode.
What guard is that? Is he one of the torturers or just a regular guard from the time after the torture ended?
Muhammad " War is deceit." You don't know your enemy, and you are moved by his tears.
@@twnb7733 you’re a 🤡
People are idk they are
This man is so sweet , his smile is so pure despite all what he had to live . Thank you for this interview , Jordan . May God shower you both with love and truth
Extraordinary interview.
My heart goes out to everyone who has ever had to live through anything remotely similar. This could happen to anyone of us and that`s a very frightening thought.
Harming a fellow human being in such a way, guilty or not, is beyond words. I don`t know who I pity more, the victims or the perpetrators. My deepest respects to Mohamed, a man who conquered evil on so many levels . I can`t even start to imagine the demons that will haunt him for the rest of his life.
Thank you, both, and may God be with you.
I'm sorry but this doesn't happen to "any of us". It happens to us, muslims.
@@Verdeishern crosses tyranny? elaborate as to why out of all the guantanamo victims who where exhonerated and recognized innocent, 96% were muslim?
@@Verdeishern You're extremely naive. There has been damn near only muslims persecuted, held without a trial in that prison for decades. Being tortured for no damn reason. USA is the bad guys bro
@@Verdeishern I don't think we will come to an understanding, we clearly live in different worlds
@@ziaali319 During cold war greedy capitalists of united states made many south American Christian countries a living hell like now they are doing with Muslim countries. So Andrew Cisneros is right when he say people of ethenicities have been subjected to torture of all kind from all kinds of puppet evil dictators like secular, communist, religious and what not
I’ve never seen Jordan be so silent. This interview demanded it. Well done.
I love how JP is doing his best to listen. He has his finger on his lips, you can tell he really wants to interject but doesn’t. Thank you Mr. Peterson for being a great psychologist.
I love how he doesn't interrupt except when it's needed
I'm Canadian and I would like to say my country did what it usually does which is pass the buck and come out smelling like roses. We failed this man and others by not standing up to the Americans and doing a proper investigation then deciding on its merits how to justly proceed. Also I was just graduating University when 911 happened. I remember the talk around enhanced interrogation. I absolutely knew it was torture. I remember academics being silenced regarding this issue. I remember later on being told that while Guantanamo likely held non terrorists that they could not be released as being there had likely radicalized them (giant red flag). I remember the American media showing how cushy the prison was. Hey they even got a complimentary Koran. I remember studying world war 2. I remember saying I would have stood up against the Nazis. I remember thinking I would have stood against Japanese internment camps. Well I had a chance during this time and I did nothing. Bitter pill to swallow even though it was not specifically my country doing the abuse. Not even Nazi war criminals endured what Mohamedou Ould Slahi did. To those that actually protested and tried my respect. For the rest of us maybe get our shit together and my sincere apology for my and our complete failure to maintain my and our principles in the face of fear.
Also thanks to Jordan for bringing cases like this to my attention I always learn something from watching these videos even if it is something I don't like.
Well said
Thank you for this interview ❤😊😢😂🎉😮😂😊 May we all be humble and willing to learn... Growing in truth and 💕 Love! God is our final judge... And will judge all by their thoughts & deeds. Life is 2 short.. let go let God.... None of us designed this creation... It is beyond our human comprehension.. be kind 2 all living creatures.... Yes.... There is good & evil. Let's be good, decent & do what good we can @ everything we come in contact with... Be fair minded & do our own inner work.. self examination.. choose good over evil. Life over death🎉❤. This is a very humble man who is an exemplary example of how 2 fight the good 👍 fight... A blessing to have him & Jordan together. Our gift 🎁 from our Maker.... So humbling 2 find this superb video. Kudos..
I love this guy from my heart, he is such a noble man
This interview is heartbreaking. The injustice. Even more if you realise that Guantanamo bay is still open…
Mr Peterson, I really enjoy this interview, and the one with the North Korean girl. I mean, your talks with scholars are elegant as they are explanatory, but your talks with heroes are powerful as they are demonstrative.
Normally I just listen to your interviews while doing chores. For these two, I sit down properly and watch with my breath held.
Powerful comment - you summed it up with profound simplicity.
yes
Exactly. At the end of the day, what we learn and what we know is of little value unless it teaches us the kind of humanity and strength and overcoming that heroes teach us!
Absolutely agree. JP is a great interviewer
I did the same. By the way--your thumbnail picture is excellent lol
It's absolutely heartbreaking what we did to this man, and to so many more like him I'm sure..😢......and his demeanor is so touching to me. That he's not angry and resentful. His story really makes me realize how much I take for granted. Puts my problems in perspective.
I didn’t know I was going to be able to watch the entire interview from beginning to end! You are a great Mohammoud!
This man is so understanding and true to himself in spite of all that he has gone through, I am stunned and amazed.
Mohamedou, you teach us how to be a holy saint... God bless you whereever you go, whatever you do.... Thank you Dr. Peterson, for having such a rare and remarkable guest on your podcast.
What a chilling story... And well done to Jordan for bringing this difficult story to us. We need to know these thing happened to real people. That they had concequences, and that we should never do them again.
Dear Jordan B. Peterson, I just wanted to say thank you. I'm 20 years old and I study psychology. I found out about you when I felt very lost, I was about 15 at the time. However, your books and youtube videos gave me motivation, meaning, and power to start searching for answers to all of my questions. You impacted my life immensely, and 5 years later I still question everything I see and try to be the best version of myself, even though I have to admit it's very hard to make the right choices. I don't think that I'll ever be able to express how grateful I am to you. But you were like a father figure to me. This episode was splendid and once again reminded me how beautiful and brave a person can decide to be. Thank you, Mr. Peterson
His story should be shared at every institute, Mo you have a golden heart! Thanks you for sharing your story!!
I am devistated by what my country has done to this good man, this kind humble educated good man. I don't have words...
From hating being alone to preferring to be alone, this the effects of incarceration without due process. Shutting this unfair world out!! Reminds me of the Stanford Experiment to some extent’s. Worth a watch.
As a Canadian I do not know if I have ever felt as shamed for the actions of my country as I do listening to this interview.
You're not blamed for the actions of your government. No government in the world represents its people. They just represents the will of the oligarchs.
why? this is heaven on earth compared to what they do to prisoners in Arab countries
@@nasers5920
ARABS RUN ARAB COUNTIES NOT THE USA
@@PresidentEvil lmfao sure
I’m Canadian too. I concur… after watching this equally heart wrenching and amazingly inspiring video of such a brave innocent soul, these atrocities are just yet another reason why I’m utterly disgusted at the corrupt Canadian government. They are not fit to be in their current position.
Of all of the JBP podcasts I've listened to (and I have listened to a lot), this is the most horrific. To see an innocent man punished and tortured for 14 years, and to learn that the US was the worst offender in the inhuman treatment of this man, made me cry. It also is the only podcast where Jordan just...let the man talk. Anyone who doubts that the seeds of darkness lie in all of our souls should listen to this podcast with wonder and horror.
Canada tortures the living hell out of it's own citizens too, including little kids. Been going on for decades here.
Innocent until proven guilty is a legal judgment not a moral one. Through out the interview, he down played his connections with various high profile terrorists and the too often concurrence of himself and multiple terror attacks/attempts. He also forgot to mention when he cooperated, that is when the intels he provided led to the capture of true terrorists, he got books, a television, a PlayStation, and an old laptop, on which he killed time playing chess and watching DVDs. Jordan asked the correct question "If you didn't do that, how can you cooperate?" His mistake was to assume this to be a rhetorical question. OJ Simpson is legally not guilty, but for sure, he has some exciting stories to tell.
@@msbramble176 isn't he dead already?
Check the Korean girl podcast out... That one shows imo an even darker side of humanity
Muhammad " The War is deceit." Please, don't be so naif. This is his belief. According to God, the man who believes in this Book should be cut off from the living------This is his belief----Quran(9/30 ) "...May Allah destroy them ( the Jews and Christians )....."
Quran(9:123) "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhoods"
Quran(@) "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire,hooked unto
rods,boiling water,melt their skins and bellies".
Quran (47:4) "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels;behead them
when you catch them"
Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the
hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless
journey's end.
Quran (2;191) "Slay the unbelievers where ever you find them"
Quran(@) "Muslim's must not take infidels as their friends"
Quran(3:85 "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable"
Quran (5;33) "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam"
Quran(@) "Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures
other than the Quran"
Quran(8:60) "Muslim's must muster all weapons to terrorize the Infidels"
Quran(8:65) "The unbelievers are stupid,urge the Muslim's to fight them"
Quran(9:5) SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists
wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in
wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent,
establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed,
Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.Quran(9:5)
My heart breaks for this poor man. What a beautiful and resilient soul he is. He has every right to be resentful and hateful towards the world but he is not. I truly admire his strength and resolve!!
Why the world? Why not just the guys who did that to him or the US?
He has the wisdom to understand that resentment would only harm him.
This is because of his strong belief in Allah ..Allah He does not waste the reward of the doers of good. He also compensates for everything bad, as long as he is patient and trusts in God
@@TheGerogero Yes, and I admire him so much for that. There's a saying, "Harboring hatred is like drinking poison in hopes of hurting someone else."
He could smile and be humourous and being realistic , apologetic for what he has gone through.A true gentleman.