Very interesting work you are doing with those high cambered foil sections. As an amateur foil builder, I wonder how this works out for pitch stability and controllability. Doesn't the pitching moment cause problems at higher speeds, when the center of lift moves all the way back? Do you need a larger stab to compensate? Are such foils suited for "average-skilled" foilers? 🙂
Absolutely stellar recap Rob, wish I was able to spend more time talking at the show. One of the surprises for me was the Flysurfer Tao, super light feeling, great into the wind and powerful enough for easy transition from knees to standing. (I’m a first year winger so I prioritize feel and balance) Next year come spend some time in Newport Or. before the show! Safe Travels 🙏👍
@@wingmanfoilclub Indeed, they have a great crew, Marie is so much fun. Have you ridden the Flux? Lots of praise from friends and watching Johnny on it is just a joy. Thought the AK boards looked great, loved the Duotone board colors. One thing that surprised me is l preferred the Strike V3 in 5 and 5.5 to the Swing. I generally like more power but for me the Strike had better balance in those sizes. (again I’m not as good as you yet)
It’s great to hear your thoughts and I’m sure viewers will be interested. It’s so hard for me to film everything and ride. Maybe next year I’ll recruit a few helpers and we can get their reactions
@@wingmanfoilclub That’s a great plan. I made the mistake of not using my own gear when testing so I was adjusting to everything at once, the sad part is I knew better. DOH!
I’d like to since that’s more of what I do. I bet we’ll be seeing a lot more AFS foils here in the US once people start trying them out. I was really impressed with the clean design.
nice vid! You should try the art pro's and spitfires... I"m on their 1201 a lot.. Sooo good for a big wing. Can't wait to get on a couple smaller sizes for windy days. Also very curious about the Code stuff.. Thanks for the edit!
HAH! To be fair I was going out of town for a week and said you could keep the foil for a whole week. So no first ride review was necessary. :) I'll let you do a first ride review of the 1050 now if you like. Great info for the rest of the video! Watched the whole thing start to finish.
Love how fast the board designs change these days... we put a kick in the tail to make it easier to pump onto foil... we kept a flat rail all the way to the tail so it planes up faster now. 😆😵 Also, this explains all the California license plates in town last week... 😋
great overview!! 8LBs for a 73L board! I might need that puppy! Too bad for the sabfoil positioning, was hoping to have a good comparison to the other stuff.
@@wingmanfoilclub Oh I bet they can be broken :D You should try a Sabfoil 780 Razor if you get a chance... pretty sweet and curious to know what you think of it vs all the other ones.
Haha! I will say as someone that rides an “old” foil (Vyper), upgrading to a new front wing is a huge difference maker. Wing, board, mast… those can wait.
Thanks. I’m 200 pounds. I can’t remember the wind speed but probably around 20mph with a 5.0 Blue Planet wing. It’s definitely a foil that needs some wind to get going, and it’s not going to pump and glide a big rider that well. The 1100 is much better suited to that. But if going fast and carving waves is a priority the 700 rips. I’d also like to try the 800 which has an AR of 13! If you’re looking for more low end I think the Silk have good reviews too
I would say average to light maybe. I didn’t notice one way or the other really. What’s interesting is the 11 mm race mast is HEAVIER because it’s solid carbon to maintain the stiffness for the width.
Not from me this year. Their new Seek 68L looks good. They also have a new foil with some concave in it. And their wings have a pro model with updated materials I think.
So bummed to have purchased a S26 Naish Matador 5.0 and have three guys immediately tell me they didn’t have that big guy power as promoted. 😒 hello ebay…
5.0 is kind of small for a big guy unless it’s fairly windy. Unfortunately I have to use a 6 meter pretty often in SoCal. But that wing might still have a place in your quiver. Only way to know is to try it out
I enjoyed the slingshot guy, super well explained.
That’s Fred Hope. Quite a good kiter and winger. I was more sold on the 899 than the wings personally. The 899 looked like a good foil.
Welcome to AFS in the US 😊 ... thanks for your feedback ..i am really found of the AFS pure 700 too
It’s so good! But I can’t stop thinking about the 1100 for downwinding
Yes you were so exited on the video, really funny, I just bought it 😊
Thanks Rob! Great to see you at the show.
Great to see you too!
Great to run into you and what an awesome event! So many exciting things coming!
Ditto. Hope we can wing together soon.
Very interesting work you are doing with those high cambered foil sections. As an amateur foil builder, I wonder how this works out for pitch stability and controllability. Doesn't the pitching moment cause problems at higher speeds, when the center of lift moves all the way back? Do you need a larger stab to compensate? Are such foils suited for "average-skilled" foilers? 🙂
Great coverage Rob! Glad to see my old board worked for you, it learned few new tricks under your feet🤙
Well it lasted 3 days before I broke it… haha
Love the honesty and raw opinions. Keep dropping the vids. Keep breaking gear.
Thanks for the feedback! I’m sure I’ll keep doing both. Hopefully less of the gear breaking.
Thank you for posting this love the content.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
Absolutely stellar recap Rob, wish I was able to spend more time talking at the show. One of the surprises for me was the Flysurfer Tao, super light feeling, great into the wind and powerful enough for easy transition from knees to standing. (I’m a first year winger so I prioritize feel and balance) Next year come spend some time in Newport Or. before the show! Safe Travels 🙏👍
Would love to! And yeah the Tao looks really good in Nathan’s hands, but I bet most wings would!
@@wingmanfoilclub Indeed, they have a great crew, Marie is so much fun. Have you ridden the Flux? Lots of praise from friends and watching Johnny on it is just a joy. Thought the AK boards looked great, loved the Duotone board colors. One thing that surprised me is l preferred the Strike V3 in 5 and 5.5 to the Swing. I generally like more power but for me the Strike had better balance in those sizes. (again I’m not as good as you yet)
It’s great to hear your thoughts and I’m sure viewers will be interested. It’s so hard for me to film everything and ride. Maybe next year I’ll recruit a few helpers and we can get their reactions
@@wingmanfoilclub That’s a great plan. I made the mistake of not using my own gear when testing so I was adjusting to everything at once, the sad part is I knew better. DOH!
thanks for you coverage i was waiting that !
I tried to get it up Saturday but took 36 hours to upload!
Thank you Rob!
You’re welcome!
Great vidéo ! You should try the AFS Silk range - insane carving 👌
I’d like to since that’s more of what I do. I bet we’ll be seeing a lot more AFS foils here in the US once people start trying them out. I was really impressed with the clean design.
nice vid! You should try the art pro's and spitfires... I"m on their 1201 a lot.. Sooo good for a big wing. Can't wait to get on a couple smaller sizes for windy days. Also very curious about the Code stuff.. Thanks for the edit!
I loved the Code and I think most people that have ridden it feel the same.
HAH! To be fair I was going out of town for a week and said you could keep the foil for a whole week. So no first ride review was necessary. :) I'll let you do a first ride review of the 1050 now if you like.
Great info for the rest of the video! Watched the whole thing start to finish.
I need to finish editing a couple more videos first. More interested in trying them after talking to Kane
Love how fast the board designs change these days... we put a kick in the tail to make it easier to pump onto foil... we kept a flat rail all the way to the tail so it planes up faster now. 😆😵
Also, this explains all the California license plates in town last week... 😋
Haha. I’m a vocal member of the flat is fast and weird tails are gimmicks camp.
More detail about screw length afs use 8x35mm on alpha mast, fone asc are 6x16mm, fone bamboo 6x25mm. The asc track is ultra shallow 😮.
Yeah it’s stupid shallow. I was using M8 x 20mm it was bottoming out but tight (when I tightened it)
great overview!! 8LBs for a 73L board! I might need that puppy!
Too bad for the sabfoil positioning, was hoping to have a good comparison to the other stuff.
It’s nutty light. And when you push on the rails they don’t flex. Seems pretty darn good. But I might be able to break it too given enough time!
@@wingmanfoilclub Oh I bet they can be broken :D
You should try a Sabfoil 780 Razor if you get a chance... pretty sweet and curious to know what you think of it vs all the other ones.
@scp8412 maybe I’ll try to test it out with alwayskiting back in LA
@@wingmanfoilclub that would be awesome.
Cool stuff I’ll be buying off portland Craigslist in a year and a half.
Haha! I will say as someone that rides an “old” foil (Vyper), upgrading to a new front wing is a huge difference maker. Wing, board, mast… those can wait.
Really enjoyed your review, especially interested in the AFS . What weight are you and what was the wind speed when you tried the 700 .
Cheers .
Thanks. I’m 200 pounds. I can’t remember the wind speed but probably around 20mph with a 5.0 Blue Planet wing. It’s definitely a foil that needs some wind to get going, and it’s not going to pump and glide a big rider that well. The 1100 is much better suited to that. But if going fast and carving waves is a priority the 700 rips. I’d also like to try the 800 which has an AR of 13!
If you’re looking for more low end I think the Silk have good reviews too
@@wingmanfoilclub Brilliant, thanks for taking the time to reply.
P.S they also make a 900 which maybe worth a try !
@ro57zzz thanks for watching and commenting. Let us know how you like them
Aluminum Unifoils fuses nice! didnt want to drop $600 to get the other sizes
Yeah, didn’t see that one coming!
@@wingmanfoilclub Did you happen to get specifics on the price or release dates?
I did not. I’m sure you could message them though
What did you think of the weight of the AFS foils? Were they on the heavier side or lighter side?
I would say average to light maybe. I didn’t notice one way or the other really. What’s interesting is the 11 mm race mast is HEAVIER because it’s solid carbon to maintain the stiffness for the width.
Any North related videos ?😢
Not from me this year. Their new Seek 68L looks good. They also have a new foil with some concave in it. And their wings have a pro model with updated materials I think.
So bummed to have purchased a S26 Naish Matador 5.0 and have three guys immediately tell me they didn’t have that big guy power as promoted. 😒 hello ebay…
5.0 is kind of small for a big guy unless it’s fairly windy. Unfortunately I have to use a 6 meter pretty often in SoCal. But that wing might still have a place in your quiver. Only way to know is to try it out
@@wingmanfoilclubyeah, thank you. I’ve got to find something but not new. I’m a Hodges/Hilton 72 yr old guy at 91kg.
Cheap foil boxes...
Also broke one, without any crash or something special. Lost whole foil, never found it again...
Ooof. That’s terrible. So glad I didn’t lose the AFS
🙄 P r o m o s m
Great video, super informative to see what is coming. Sorry about your board! I've been there! @rod.foils
Stupid expensive sport!