My first Freefoil experience with BETA Foils

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  • @mysweethubert
    @mysweethubert 11 месяцев назад +103

    This technology paired with a wing could make it possible to fly forever in the lightest winds. That's the part that's really exciting to me.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад +2

      I don't know, as I'm not a winger, but I expect we will all find out soon.

    • @mysweethubert
      @mysweethubert 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@WakeThief if you could find a way to test it with someone who wings, I bet you would get a lot of attention, I for one would be extremely interested to see the result. You would also dip into a much larger market.

    • @whalek1
      @whalek1 10 месяцев назад

      That would be interesting/entertaining. Get out there with Tucker with MacKite. It would be great to see a collab with them.

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@mysweethubertto wing, do you need some way to stick to the deck of the foil?

    • @mysweethubert
      @mysweethubert 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@JinKee you don't need to, but some use straps. It is more useful if you're going to jump, to keep the board at your feet.

  • @justincoats7236
    @justincoats7236 11 месяцев назад +82

    I'm sitting here saying, "No way!" Over and over watching this video. You did it! So cool. I've been following you for years. You wanted it, and you did it.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you, Justin. Making this video was an emotional experience for me. Lots of hours on foils led to the moments in this video. Thanks for taking the time to write, and your support over the years. Means the world to me.

    • @justincoats7236
      @justincoats7236 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@WakeThiefIt's so cool of you to respond. I had very little faith that your goal would ever be reached. I thought the technology couldn't go much further. My thoughts were to get in better shape or an electric efoil. It's so cool that you are now friends with Todd Reichert. He has to be one of the coolest engineers of our day.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +3

      @justincoats7236 I’m not going to lie. I started to lose faith too. Todd is truly exceptional.

    • @MrMatos1965
      @MrMatos1965 10 месяцев назад

      ​​@@WakeThiefir are you looking to distrib efficiently in Europe

  • @muskokaliving2072
    @muskokaliving2072 11 месяцев назад +44

    I agree 100% with your thinking on "Endless Flight". Nobody flies, drives, bikes, runs, or walks forever. Each has it own realistic and practical range that most of us need. It seems like the new Freefoil is already in the range for most of us. Congratulations!

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +3

      Todd kept telling me I’d love freefoiling. I need to try and see stuff to believe it. I’m a believer. And yes, not sure what I was gonna do when I flew an hour that wouldn’t be called freefoiling!

    • @genevadaddy
      @genevadaddy 11 месяцев назад

      It seems super cool. A sunfish or a laser or any other small sailboat can take you for hours. The wind, daylight and your time are the only limits (that and where you can launch from a trailer or a dolly).

  • @irf888
    @irf888 11 месяцев назад +82

    Hi. I'm not a pump foiler, rather focus on kite and wing, however I really appreciate the effort and commitments you make when analysing especially when you use data to backup your summaries (most others don't unfortunately). Wish you and your colleague all the best with the business venture!. Regards.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад +5

      I couldn't wish for a kinder response. Thank you for seeing and appreciating the details.

  • @wedding_photography
    @wedding_photography 11 месяцев назад +26

    Wing size: 2100 cm^2
    Tail size: 340 cm^2
    Aspect Ratio: 18.3
    Total foil weight: 4.7kg

  • @tiesdayou2965
    @tiesdayou2965 11 месяцев назад +7

    This is awesome! A new chapter begins - congrats guys!

  • @DRK_MTB_406
    @DRK_MTB_406 11 месяцев назад +2

    Your video from one year ago talked of foiling for 30 minutes as the end goal of endless flight. Now 2.5 hours…mind blown and congratulations

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! I, myself, would still like to get past 30min, just so 20min becomes easy and I can now venture out even further. But, yea, it is truly amazing

  • @venkuzephyr
    @venkuzephyr 3 часа назад

    This is exactly what I've been looking for. I've been spinning my wheels with kites, wings, and groaning at the price of efoils. I wanted to foil for long distances without depending on wind or motors. This is it. I want to buy one as soon as they open back up.

  • @drrock5356
    @drrock5356 11 месяцев назад +9

    Epic! Thank you for showing the first major breakthrough in hydrofoiling in decades!

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад

      The pleasure was absolutely mine! Thank you.

  • @imd12c4advice
    @imd12c4advice 3 месяца назад

    Glad you are achieving your goals. Good to see you're teaming up with knowledgeable and skilled folks like Todd. Anyone who's been successful on the asphalt in BM, NV has my respect. Plus real world results are the best kind of proof.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  3 месяца назад

      Thank you. Super kind of you to leave the note. Todd is as impressive as it gets.

  • @steveothedeveo
    @steveothedeveo 10 месяцев назад

    Nicely done. That beach launch looks super easy. Well... easy after lots of practice but you know what I mean. Compared to other foils.
    And so rewarding for you being able to pump to far away docks or piers. I love it.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад +1

      It's not as easy as it looks, but this foil certainly made it possible for me. I thought beach starting was beyond my skill set, but I'm so glad to now be doing it.

  • @FoilFanatic42
    @FoilFanatic42 11 месяцев назад +6

    This is so cool! Cant wait to see what the future holds with this!

  • @ProjektHeld
    @ProjektHeld 11 месяцев назад

    Just incredible! Great effort 👍

  • @exactpause9218
    @exactpause9218 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm totally blown away, I've never seen or heard of anything shown and now I learned that a guy can fly around for hours above water with just the power of his own body. Realisticly i know I'm far to heavy and unfit to do mor then two pumps on such a thing before I crash into the water but I'm completly hooked, this looks like so much fun if you got the hang of it, thank you for introducing me to this world - subbed!

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  9 месяцев назад +1

      Super kind of you to take the time to share that with me!

  • @J10TAY
    @J10TAY 11 месяцев назад +4

    And just like that, we have a winner. I hope you can still carry on this channel even though you found a foil that will never be beaten

    • @ukarlsson
      @ukarlsson 11 месяцев назад +1

      With the current price I suppose there will always be room for more reviews of the best budget alternatives 😀

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you for your support. This is just the beginning. I haven’t even flown for an hour yet! This is one category. We are reviewing wake thief foils, new budget foils, and efoils! I’m also giving winging a try! I love this sport and I’m not going anywhere! So much to do.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +2

      Absolutely! The most interest this summer has been this $1000 option that is a great way to enter this sport, and let someone see if they fall in love. mackite.idevaffiliate.com/idevaffiliate.php?id=102&url=5

  • @christinamattosomaia4991
    @christinamattosomaia4991 11 месяцев назад +2

    I am a wing foiler and was looking for a sport to practice my foiling when there is no wind. I want to purchase one Beta foil! I think it is wonderful

  • @q8tennis
    @q8tennis 10 месяцев назад

    Great Job ! well done

  • @sifly_efoil
    @sifly_efoil 11 месяцев назад

    Thats for shure a super glider wing..Thanks for pushing the sport to the limits🤩

  • @RasKitchen
    @RasKitchen 11 месяцев назад

    This looks boss! Thanks for the vid 🙌

  • @NathanFlorence
    @NathanFlorence 11 месяцев назад

    Very cool!! Curious do you think some of the extended length was you getting more fit cause you were pumping so much? Like your endurance was going up? The latest beta looks very cool! Either way for sure the glide looks to have improved which is exciting

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +1

      I suppose it’s possible but not likely given I set my last record later in the season last year when I was more fit, and lighter (which makes it easier to fly) and this record was 5x longer than my previous personal best. These pump durations are really hard to test back to back across different foils. Also because technique matters so much and each foil has a unique technique.

  • @windridermaui
    @windridermaui 11 месяцев назад

    Looks really fun!

  • @marcoswelker132
    @marcoswelker132 11 месяцев назад +1

    Everything in this video is just great. Sport, storytelling, editing,... good job!

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you. It was from the heart, which made it that much more rewarding.

    • @marcosfunky
      @marcosfunky 10 месяцев назад

      This is like a adventure movie! I fell shivers even typing here...

  • @davidshormann9621
    @davidshormann9621 10 месяцев назад

    This is amazing, congratulations!!!

  • @Tribe-watersports
    @Tribe-watersports 11 месяцев назад

    So cool! Great work on charging forward with the sport!

  • @asfdoth
    @asfdoth 10 месяцев назад +1

    Long time follower! Your dedication to this project over time is a credit to mankind's ingenuity throughout history. I keep thinking of the parallels of how Da Vinci's Great Kite design and the Wright brother's designs ultimately led to the aeronautics we have today. Obviously, all compressed in time through the power of Information Technology! Good job! Keep at it!

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад +2

      It speaks volumes about your character to take the time to write something so kind. Thank you. While what we’re doing is so much smaller in scale and impact, it was nonetheless what I wanted to pursue.

    • @marco_s3025
      @marco_s3025 10 месяцев назад

      Indeed. I may add,the rate of development since his early endeavors till now is in a time-line truly Great.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you, Marco

  • @jugadeus
    @jugadeus 11 месяцев назад +2

    I am so impressed with this Devon! Looks so good- beautiful production values. If you want some Western Australian testers the Perth dock start crew have their hands in the air😊

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад

      I was so impressed when I saw it too.

  • @CaptainPaulClarke
    @CaptainPaulClarke 11 месяцев назад

    This is epic!! Well done. We need to get one of these onboard 🤙

  • @tonymccann1978
    @tonymccann1978 5 месяцев назад

    That looks f**king sweet. Would love to try that. Good job, great example of solid engineering

  • @erikkpritchard
    @erikkpritchard 11 месяцев назад +4

    Interesting to see the dual mast, like on the earlier hydrofoil boats.

    • @unoxunox4086
      @unoxunox4086 11 месяцев назад

      ... makes a lot of sense to have lower forces on the joints.

  • @ALH84001K
    @ALH84001K 11 месяцев назад

    Nice work - this looks amazing..

  • @shoomz
    @shoomz 10 месяцев назад +5

    Huge congrats, this is just really great. I’m wondering how much easier it is to keep balance on choppy days - compared to a single mast design - as the big span front wing should react quite a bit more sensitive to even the slightest turbulence in the water. Also the wipeout looked quite similar to “single mast wipeouts” so things won’t get too easy in that regard it seems.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад +3

      Please don’t be mistaken. This sport isn’t easy. The freefoil didn’t make the sport easy, but it did make it easier. I’ve been fine riding through chop and waves. The large wing actually stabilizes pretty well. I wouldn’t say it’s any better or worse.

  • @Sunni_days
    @Sunni_days 11 месяцев назад

    Pretty awesome man. Congrats.

  • @TheZombieSaints
    @TheZombieSaints 6 месяцев назад

    Good way to keep fit 👍

  • @scientificapproach6578
    @scientificapproach6578 11 месяцев назад +1

    This might make a great foil for wingfoiling during low wind speeds.

  • @darrellbrown8547
    @darrellbrown8547 11 месяцев назад

    Wow! Just WOW!

  • @28tpi
    @28tpi 11 месяцев назад

    Very cool!!!

  • @YouriCarma
    @YouriCarma 5 месяцев назад

    Nice work man!

  • @joeskill4663
    @joeskill4663 11 месяцев назад

    Wow ..very cool..👍🏽

  • @glucklichprutas4631
    @glucklichprutas4631 11 месяцев назад +5

    Congratulations on the new design. Awesome 2½ record. Nice work on trying so many different types and coming up with a winner. Its expensive but so are high performance sailplanes or sailboat compared to a cheap hangglider or Sunfish. If I had to choose, I'd choose this Betafoil over any efoil

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад

      An efoil will be a much easier way to get to an hour of flight, but this one is more fun if you’re looking for an endurance and fitness challenge.

  • @JackDanYewell
    @JackDanYewell 6 месяцев назад

    This is amazing! The only thing left is figuring out wet starts. Man I would love to invest in this company!

  • @JesseKellys
    @JesseKellys 3 месяца назад

    Awesome. Bummed I'm only seeing this 7 months later! I need to lose weight for many reasons but the idea of free foiling and wind foiling is a primary motivator.

  • @slo3337
    @slo3337 10 месяцев назад

    This is a good idea, curious how far it can be engineered. Looks like some fun in the sun for sure

  • @gotlift2046
    @gotlift2046 11 месяцев назад

    We’re in!!🙌

  • @DMT4Dinner
    @DMT4Dinner 10 месяцев назад

    Wow cool

  • @wesrack0
    @wesrack0 9 месяцев назад +1

    Good to see someone else using Solidworks. Let us know we can print you some parts here in Tennessee

  • @gsftom
    @gsftom 10 месяцев назад

    Nice ad 😊

  • @keizogates
    @keizogates 11 месяцев назад

    rad, nice work guys.

  • @cochese18
    @cochese18 10 месяцев назад

    Wow gotta thank the RUclips algorithm here, I didn't know this sport existed till today. Looks like you've got a well developed channel excited to dig in!

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад

      How cool! Thanks for leaving these kind words. If I can help, let me know!

  • @MMcguire85813
    @MMcguire85813 10 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing! I want one! I wish the price of entry was less so I could just buy one and try it out!

  • @user-rr8hc8ls5n
    @user-rr8hc8ls5n 10 месяцев назад

    I was really impressed and inspired by this! Definitely would want another video about it, maybe even about more technical parts, if it would make a good video!

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you. Will do.

  • @RasKitchen
    @RasKitchen 11 месяцев назад

    Hey can you tell me what is the app that tracks your path on the map with the yellow line?

  • @collegepros
    @collegepros 11 месяцев назад +2

    So cool!

  • @Jochumvideos
    @Jochumvideos 10 месяцев назад

    wow this seems really cool, but also expensive. Good luck with the project

  • @DarwinVanDyke
    @DarwinVanDyke 11 месяцев назад

    Just imagine how many more Power Pumper hats you’ll need to send out 😂 this is truly inspiring & incredible, I still can’t believe it, amazing

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад

      I didn’t think about that part. My daughter will be working overtime now, packing up those hats!

  • @Subscribe2Glide
    @Subscribe2Glide 11 месяцев назад +2

    Looks like a flawless design. I wonder if future versions will go from the 2100cm2 front wing up to 2400cm2 for the 200lb dudes. Great work !

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +1

      Todd spent a very long time arriving at this Goldilocks solution … he tried more area and less area. And more span and less span. And more sweep and less sweep. He selected the best for low power pumping and good handling

  • @nius_21
    @nius_21 9 месяцев назад

    Great Video ! love to test this one day.

  • @jeffw8218
    @jeffw8218 11 месяцев назад +1

    I know one person who wants to buy one 🤷‍♂️
    And he’s the guy in this video.

  • @scottgorman7166
    @scottgorman7166 9 месяцев назад

    Looks like a winner for foiling. I have a few questions....1) how does it handle wind chop on larger lakes....it seems low to the water and 2) how do you make turns? Thanks

  • @soronir3526
    @soronir3526 8 месяцев назад

    I didn't know this was a thing that even existed, I find it fascinating.

  • @Mephistopholies
    @Mephistopholies 11 месяцев назад

    One leap twords flight achieved.

  • @Pete_R63
    @Pete_R63 8 месяцев назад

    How did I miss this video? So cool! I have a guess, it was released on my birthday and I was scuba diving in Bonaire so I guess I was a little preoccupied. Looks really great!

  • @mankindw1
    @mankindw1 11 месяцев назад

    I bought one and looking forward to it!!!

  • @user-sn6du2ho7n
    @user-sn6du2ho7n 11 месяцев назад

    That may be the coolest thing ever

  • @wesnobles
    @wesnobles 11 месяцев назад

    Awesome! This is insane!

  • @zdavatz
    @zdavatz 11 месяцев назад

    Very nice! Thank you Devon! Send me one to Greece, so I can test it. ;)

  • @steinerikgabrielsen2988
    @steinerikgabrielsen2988 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you... again. I'm already requesting one from MACkite to ride with wings

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +1

      MACKite will take great care of you!

  • @befree1558
    @befree1558 9 месяцев назад +3

    Amazing - I guess it would also work for very lightwing winging or paddle starts on flatwater with a downwindboard. A comparison with a Sabfoil Leviathan 1750 or Gong Sirus 186cm or even 249cm would be also very interesting. They also have a very high aspect, but single mast. Maybe quite a significant amount of energy gets lost due to the flexing of the single mast? If just 50 watts get lost, that's a lot when it comes to endurance.

    • @stkl23
      @stkl23 9 месяцев назад

      That's what I was thinking too. It should be rather easy paddling this foil up in flat water - that way you wouldn't even need a place to dock-start from. The dual-mast should also prevent it from rolling... exciting times ahead!

    • @laurentmuller7930
      @laurentmuller7930 8 месяцев назад

      Was also wondering if you could keep paddling on this thing instead of pumping.

  • @MrSasuke67
    @MrSasuke67 10 месяцев назад +1

    This looks so cool ! I'm just starting to get interested into hydrofoil and I have absolutely no experience in foil surfing, I love the fact that this is purely human powered, without the need for waves or wind. I'm living far from the ocean and wanted to ask if the beta foil might be suitable for a complete beginner like me ? I'd be so happy to practice a watersport like this on the small lakes and rivers we have around where I live 😍

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад

      It’s certainly suitable for a beginner, as much as any foil is. This sport is tough, and takes some practice (and patience), so if you’re committed, I’d go for it. If you have a budget, you could always find a used setup to test your interest first.

  • @stefanospagnolini506
    @stefanospagnolini506 9 месяцев назад

    This looks amazing!
    Dreaming for an endless flight (i’m also an airplane pilot) like gliding competitions.
    I don’t know if you would agree but (dreamimg is allways free) with some improovement/mods is possible to install a pair of ailerons to control the apparently less roll rate and governability.
    Greetings from Italy

  • @JetSurfingNation
    @JetSurfingNation 11 месяцев назад

    endless summer!

  • @miguelaguirre5915
    @miguelaguirre5915 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this amazing development!. What's the minimum turning radius (sustained turn)? What's the gliding distance? Maximum speed? Typical maximum range speed ? Will you do a full review like the other foils? So many questions !

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +4

      Great questions. Guessing 15m u turn (10m on a smaller span). Ideal pumping speed has been 3.1 m/s for me at 180lb. Lots still to test / learn. I’ll get some measurements and share in future video

  • @jeremyneworleans
    @jeremyneworleans 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome! Can't wait for a more affordable price to make it mainstream!

  • @eFoilLakePowell
    @eFoilLakePowell 11 месяцев назад

    Thats really cool

  • @DrjOnesfan8
    @DrjOnesfan8 11 месяцев назад

    ha this is Saratoga lake! I grew up rowing at SRA, too funny!!!

  • @jj4791
    @jj4791 5 месяцев назад

    High aspect ratio wing, with large area. Means wide span, and less lift-induced drag. Twin struts and booms make sense, otherwise you get very large bending moments and lower stiffness.
    Burt Rutan inspired, I would say.

  • @aleshaborisovich
    @aleshaborisovich 4 месяца назад

    Cool! Is it possible to use it with the kite in ultra low winds?

  • @lr21643
    @lr21643 9 месяцев назад

    While I'm sure that optimization makes a big difference, from watching your video, it seems like the biggest single factor is a longer span for the wing. Of course, as the wing gets bigger, eventually it will get slower than a single scull.
    What sort of foil sections do you use? Is a pumping foil section necessarily different from one you might use with some other power source that doesn't involve pitching up and down?
    This stuff is technically fascinating, but it's unlikely I will ever be fit and light enough. I have short legs, would weigh 180 lbs if I was in great shape, etc. I'll be happy if I can get to the point of biking up steep hills again.

  • @pcgurupontro
    @pcgurupontro 11 месяцев назад +2

    nice approach. i was also thinking on dual mast aproach, as i believe thickness of masts can be greately reduced due to less mast twisting becouse of having more than a single connection point. I suppose the summed thickness of the two masts is less then the thickness it would require to connect the same wing to a singe mast, is that right?

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +1

      Great question! I will need to ask Todd to confirm. If I recall correctly, it’s about awash. The dual mast are each

  • @Bazakilouis
    @Bazakilouis 8 месяцев назад

    Very nice, i sold my efoil because it was just very boring. Just standing, not active. I love kite foiling but this looks like a very cool sport. Like jogging on the water. A good workout keep you fit.
    The price is still a bit out of budget

  • @kalinamckee-koa-puna-kona
    @kalinamckee-koa-puna-kona 5 месяцев назад

    I have two efoils. I totally love efoiling. But...the battery only last like 40 minutes then it's back to shore I go without burning any calories or muscle. I would definitely be interested in your board if it was possible to get back on from the middle of the ocean when you fall off and continue on. I would love the exercise and muscle toning that this board would give me.

  • @ukarlsson
    @ukarlsson 11 месяцев назад +1

    Really interesting. Do you know what made the most difference in this novel setup? Do you think a traditional single mast architecture with the same wings could achieve similar pump durations?

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +2

      Possibly. I’m working on a SAB 1750 review right now and will let you know! So far, I’ve found it easier to pump longer than the small wings out there.

  • @storkbreath
    @storkbreath 4 месяца назад

    It would be interesting to figure out a way to start from in the water at a dead stop like if you fall off or need to rest.

  • @bernienovak1504
    @bernienovak1504 11 месяцев назад +6

    Looks next level. Hopefully the price can drop a bit in the future so more people can enjoy this

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +3

      Yes! To reach the next-level weight and performance, BETA used ultra-high mod carbon fiber and designed/built the freefoil 100% in Canada.

    • @chriswilliams213
      @chriswilliams213 11 месяцев назад +4

      Definitely needs to cut the price in half before it picks up. It should be more then normal foils but at its current price, efoils make way more sense.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, at this stage we are on the verge of flying hours and every ounce of weight and watt of reduced pumping power matters. For anyone considering this sport of the first time, I’d start here if they’re not sure this for them. The 99 was the very foil foil I dock started and pumped for 1min! mackite.idevaffiliate.com/idevaffiliate.php?id=102&url=5

    • @andrewbodager2651
      @andrewbodager2651 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@chriswilliams213I hope your employer/customers never ask you to cut your labor in half to meet their wants. Innovation has a cost!

    • @ben3989
      @ben3989 11 месяцев назад

      @@andrewbodager2651but surely you under stand the trade off off low production/sales vs high production mass market dynamic? It’s what makes your really high tech tv cost only $500 at Costco.

  • @krispewkrem3
    @krispewkrem3 9 месяцев назад

    I just use foils for surfing.
    But damn. It looks like you could damn near commute on this thing 😂 can’t wait to see what this unlocks

  • @Zero.0ne.
    @Zero.0ne. 11 месяцев назад +1

    This foil looks special. I prefer the word ride instead of fly, it's lower key.

  • @Hotwire_RCTrix
    @Hotwire_RCTrix 11 месяцев назад

    What I see is improved yaw stability and higher aspect ratio. What I never understood about these craft is a front stabilizer replacing the rear stabilizer. True it needs a mast but rear stabilizers can't be substituted anywhere on a fuse.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад

      Yes. But if stabilizer is further back, it’s total area can be smaller (and introduce less drag).

  • @politicalfoolishness7491
    @politicalfoolishness7491 6 месяцев назад +1

    I like everything about what I saw. I wonder if there could be a way for someone to start in open water. That may seem impossible but if there is a design idea that could accomplish it, that would be so cool. Perhaps some floatation under the board that gives a person a chance to mount the board in open water and then get going and once going the floatation is out of the way. Some clever design that allows the floatation to decouple from the water, sort of like float planes have the step to help with liftoff, but different for this situation.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  6 месяцев назад +1

      All great ideas … or even just make it easier to launch from a solid surface. Thanks for these.

    • @politicalfoolishness7491
      @politicalfoolishness7491 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@WakeThief You are welcome. With the open water solution, a person doesn't have to swim to shore like an eagle that caught too big of a salmon. LOL Also they could take a rest when tired out in open water.

  • @StandUpMagazin
    @StandUpMagazin 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is pretty cool. Maybe we run a story on it? Very interested on turning capabilities of this thing.

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you. It does not turn as tightly as shorter span foils. I will show in future videos. Maybe 15m needed to full U-turn vs 10m for a foil with half the span. I will do a proper test and let all know! This is not a foil for carving or surfing.

  • @approxsolutions6946
    @approxsolutions6946 10 месяцев назад

    nice. Wondering if use of it with 120kg is realistic especially in the sea (Mediterran or Atlantic ocean)?
    4k++ is a nice price tag but the question is if it works…

  • @MartialArtUK
    @MartialArtUK Месяц назад +1

    Epic viewing

  • @adayinthelife5772
    @adayinthelife5772 9 месяцев назад

    I'd love to see it in the surf

  • @philscalia
    @philscalia 10 месяцев назад

    Fantastic. I know that you mentioned it doesn’t wake surf or carve like a” normal “ foil but does it do those things marginally well or pretty good or it really sucks at it. Asking as it looks ” easier “ to learn, control, etc but eventually one would want to carve and wake surfing and… wake thief

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад

      The beta can ride wakes but perpendicular to them, not parallel to boat direction. If you want to wake thief, this isn’t the foil. It really is for pumping. Quite anxious to see if it works for downwinding.

  • @roberts.wilson1848
    @roberts.wilson1848 10 месяцев назад

    The price is gigantic.
    Where can this be used? Only in calm lakes or what are the roughest waters it can handle?

  • @adamnevelos3197
    @adamnevelos3197 10 месяцев назад

    Hi, thank you so much for videos i am watching you a long time and you got me in the pump foil sport, i race on iqfoil in czech republic and i have two questions. Fist is have you tried the gong high aspect foils for pumping? Did you buy some foils from china or tried some?

    • @WakeThief
      @WakeThief  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you! I haven’t tried any of the large span gong wings. I believe many of the good foils are manufactured in China already. I have tried a foil I purchased from a shop on alibaba. It was too thick.

  • @DMATRD
    @DMATRD 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome!

  • @xandi2273
    @xandi2273 11 месяцев назад

    thumbs up from germany 👍👍 would love to test it

  • @nikitaclark1118
    @nikitaclark1118 10 месяцев назад

    I think you need to do a review of the Aquaskipper. This is not really new technology. Yes, this Beta foil looks much more attractive without the handlebars. Aquaskipper has been around for a long time and does the same thing. Mine is 15 years old and it’s still a blast every time I’m at the lake. I love the incremental improvements, but the price is not reasonable by any measure. Let’s mass produce it and get the price below 2k. I’m in!

  • @beaubiddle834
    @beaubiddle834 5 месяцев назад

    I want to buy this!!

  • @MelindaGreen
    @MelindaGreen 3 месяца назад

    I love all unpowered craft. I bet this will do well.

  • @motoryachtloon
    @motoryachtloon 11 месяцев назад

    We do a lot of wing and kite foiling. Can wait to give this a try! Nice one 🎉