Hello my friend . I really like to get in contact with you because of your expertise and knowledge in regards of FPS Testing. Any chance to make this happen? Cheers Markus
The Pro can't brute force through bad optimization. There are PS1 looking games on the PS5 store and they run at 20FPS 720p. Bad code is bad code, no hardware is gonna magically make bad code disappear.
Its Koei Tecmo. They need a massive technology overhaul for almost all their games. Pretty much anything that is not a Gust RPG or Dead or Alive struggles on current gen hardware. Screen tearing out the ass, inconsistent framerate, ugly looking textures, low population density, poor image quality, the list goes on.
While I love digital foundry for the details they provide. They do sometimes go on and on and on, this channel is shorter and more straight to the point for sure.
Appreciate the video! Not much good information on this updated game yet. It’s a definite improvement over the base console and honestly I see no reason to not play the performance mode. It seems any difference between the modes is very minor so you might as well enjoy the 60fps.
Rise of the Ronin - Base PS5 Video: ruclips.net/video/EnSZLpZuuo4/видео.html Did you like the dynamic resolution analyzed in all frames? Watch the Callisto Protocol video on the PS5 base model. ruclips.net/video/6TC6oRtY0Cs/видео.html Due to a bug in the native resolution information in performance mode when presenting the 3 videos, I had to repost these videos again. My apologies.
On base PS5 RayTracing Mode with unlocked FPS was the best and in many cases close to 60, but with way better image quality. The time i played it, the fps mode had weird stutter, while open fps rt with VRR not.
I want you guys to 120hrz and 240hrz screens will make everything look smoother no matter what with ps5 pro none of the youtube videos will do it justice because it can not be replicated
Você tem algum video explicando como funciona para estimar a resolução nativa com esse método de DCT? Você procura algum pico no resultado pra encontrar a frequência? Pq maior parte dos jogos vai usar alguma forma de upscaling temporal que vai adicionar detalhes de frequencias maior do que a resolução nativa da imagem.
Eu queria saber como o jogo roda na cidade grande no modo performance, mas julgando pelo vídeo, talvez a melhora não seja lá muito significante, já que até no campo a taxa de quadro sequer fica fixa nos 60fps
What is the software for pixel counting (I know it is proprietary) but pixel count isn't usually done with this kind of software right, because I never seen a software itself that can inject itself into a game engine to pixel count. Even Digital Foundry pixel counts by taking screenshots and pixel count them in Microsoft Paint. I thought there are no dedicated pixel counting softwares.
@@WllKiedSnake i mean sure its not bad but later levels like the mining deck drops into the 40s pretty often. Pro would likely lock it to 60 with the highest dynamic res limit that the devs put and also could be interesting to see how the traversal stutter behaves with the improved memory speeds of the pro :D
@sarthaksharma9152 Those areas might be within the VRR range now. Traversal stutter should be mitigated. But a fps dip during a load zone will still quickly dip for a sec as that's the game loading in assets. And I didn't feel a dip to 40fps in the mining area. But it might drop? I didn't feel it though.
Dont let the graphics deceive you, it's a great looking game and doesn't do what other open world games do, which gives you a stupid stamina bar, I race across cities with ease, from jumping, sprinting and gliding. 99% of games dong do that because they need to render the graphics, gameplay wise this game is the best I have played and the game does look awesome.
@@connorgibson1808 the game isn't as bad as most say but it's not as good as you're making it out to be. I like the game and I've beaten it on Midnight difficulty. Textures do look flat and I believe it's the anisotropic filtering mostly. I can't wait for it to come out on PC so I can replay it with the fidelity to the max at high FPS.
@@byte-bg4ob then the game devs are trash and there's no need for 4090, ps5 pro etc. Just a wasted potential on the current hardwares and thrown money down the toilet.
IMPRESSIONANTE, Nem o PS5 Pro consegue dominar os jogos de PS5 kkkkkkkkk eu achando que o PRO ia cravar todos os jogos de PS5 nos 60 de vez. Não tinha necessidade de Patches pra aumentar a resolução dos jogos pro PS5 pro, ele ia servir justamente pra fazer o que o PS5 base não fez, agradeçam aos desenvolvedores por ouvirem vocês, só querem gráficos então parem de chorar kkkkkk
I think the only game that has a significant improvement is FF7 rebirth. And it's probably because Sony handicapped that game on PS5 from the start so they can showcase it as having a huge leap on the PS5 pro version. Thats why they used that game a lot to lure people into thinking PS5 pro is a huge step up from the base one. It's marketing strategy.
Don’t be delusional. Haven’t u watched dragons dogma 2 or resident evil 4 on pro? It looks far better than the game on ps5 normal. Many first party games on ps5 looks still really good, which is why we can’t really see the difference. But still sm2, rachet, and many other games on ps5 looks better than the game on ps5.
If you think a company will handicap its games with an install base in the tens of millions in order to make their newer console that has just released look better, you don't understand how business works. You don't shoot yourself in the foot because you think driving a car is cooler.
Theres a reason why when they show case games is always older title they can remaster so it makes the pro look like its worth the upgrade. But they have nothing to show for newer games cause they literally play the same exact way not worth the upgrade at all.
Good video, no idea about PS5 Pro, still have graphics setting and stuck at 4k 30fps. Not what I think before launch, PS5 Pro must no graphics setting just play all 4K 60fps RT on. Thanks for the video testing, I do not need upgrade my PS5 to Pro
It is worth 40 easily... lot of characters, good combat system and even the graphics are not high end, the game has many good moments, especially in HDR.
I love the fact that these consoles younguns expect a high-end 40 series gpu like performance 😂 Y'all really have to buy a pc to experience that at its fullest extent. Not even kidding.
Really sad that I cannot in good conscience buy this game in this state. Publishers can't get away with this nonsense anymore. I'll pick it up on the cheap in a couple years and hopefully then it'll be fixed. Way to kneecap a game you've spent years developing.
Played the demo yesterday. Can't even hold 60fps on the Pro and looks like a late PS3 game 😂 even the Resolution mode looks bad. Because of ghost of Tsushima there is no need to play it anyhow.
The game appears to be running much worse than the base model PS5, the only difference really is PSSR resolution scaling use, seems not really worth the upgrade
@@WllKiedSnake all of that is irrelevant to what I’m referring to, the Pro appears to objectively be running worse than the base PS5 based on this video, with the only difference being a change in upscaler I don’t see how it is worth $700 to load your game and it now runs worse than before
@@TJones4L It's not running worse though?..... It runs better. And it's a Ai based upscaler. So image quality is much better. And it's made for people with good TV's. Don't get it if you can't take advantage of the Pro fully.
@@brazilpixel I played yesterday and not sure if patch is out or not, but i was able to play performance ray tracing mode with frame rate unlocked and get almost 60 fps stable.
@tark5549 Most of the biggest games released recently have already announced a patch, just yesterday we learned they’re working on one for Silent Hill 2 as well, it’s clear devs are interested. Also I won’t spit on the added 10-20fps in unpatched games like Elden Ring.
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Hello my friend . I really like to get in contact with you because of your expertise and knowledge in regards of FPS Testing. Any chance to make this happen? Cheers Markus
You 2 could rule the world !!! 😅😅
You guys are so much more detailed than analista de bits, please make this partnership happen
yes
Gaming Tech is one of the most trustworthy people here
Mis dos heroes en el mejor cross over de todos los tiempos
Nearly there. This will run great on a PS6.
This game is by far one of the most poorly optimized games I’ve ever played. It’s really disappointing to see this game run poorly on ps5 pro as well.
The Pro can't brute force through bad optimization. There are PS1 looking games on the PS5 store and they run at 20FPS 720p. Bad code is bad code, no hardware is gonna magically make bad code disappear.
Then you haven’t played that many games. There’s far worst than this.
What's unoptimized here? They are targetting 1080p / 60 and 1440 / 40 with both modes using PSSR to upscale to 4K.
Its Koei Tecmo. They need a massive technology overhaul for almost all their games. Pretty much anything that is not a Gust RPG or Dead or Alive struggles on current gen hardware. Screen tearing out the ass, inconsistent framerate, ugly looking textures, low population density, poor image quality, the list goes on.
How is it bad? Every mode is scaled with pssr to 4K resolution, performance runs at almost 60 fps locked, that’s what this console was meant to do
Congrats for the analysis. I am proud of this brazilian guy that provides videos Digital Foundry style ❤
While I love digital foundry for the details they provide. They do sometimes go on and on and on, this channel is shorter and more straight to the point for sure.
was playing this yesterday, can't believe i waited so long to play this game!
Would be cool to test the performance in city areas, to see how it performs
I played this yesterday briefly and I have to say, it's like a whole new game on the Pro!
Appreciate the video! Not much good information on this updated game yet. It’s a definite improvement over the base console and honestly I see no reason to not play the performance mode. It seems any difference between the modes is very minor so you might as well enjoy the 60fps.
Rise of the Ronin - Base PS5 Video:
ruclips.net/video/EnSZLpZuuo4/видео.html
Did you like the dynamic resolution analyzed in all frames? Watch the Callisto Protocol video on the PS5 base model.
ruclips.net/video/6TC6oRtY0Cs/видео.html
Due to a bug in the native resolution information in performance mode when presenting the 3 videos, I had to repost these videos again. My apologies.
On base PS5 RayTracing Mode with unlocked FPS was the best and in many cases close to 60, but with way better image quality. The time i played it, the fps mode had weird stutter, while open fps rt with VRR not.
Pro needs to have option for 1080p 60 Quality modes
I really want this tool for resolution analysis. how can I contact you?
Under 1080p on performance mode then upscaled ? Damn thats rough
why does ray teacing mode have hogher frame rate than quality mode?
Your videos are best🔥
Thanks for the testing, i think i will stick with my base PS5 if they don't improve the quality ray tracing mode for this game.
I want you guys to 120hrz and 240hrz screens will make everything look smoother no matter what with ps5 pro none of the youtube videos will do it justice because it can not be replicated
Parabéns pelo trabalho ❤
Você tem algum video explicando como funciona para estimar a resolução nativa com esse método de DCT? Você procura algum pico no resultado pra encontrar a frequência? Pq maior parte dos jogos vai usar alguma forma de upscaling temporal que vai adicionar detalhes de frequencias maior do que a resolução nativa da imagem.
How do you got the tool to measure the pixel counts ? Thats so interesting
hey thank you so much for the test! can you do a comparison between base ps5 and pro running elden ring performance mode
How much is a ps5 pro in Brazil?
Prices for electronics are crazy over there.
on a direct conversion, R$6.999,00 / 5,9 = USD 1.186...
7000 mil nesse país que o presidente eo ex presidiário
@@Legriadeviver99 infelizmente, esse msm...
Damn,europeans think they got it bad....good luck with that my Brazilian brothers & sisters 🙏
@@Armzed1 thank you brother! we gonna need it... 😮💨
Can you do with Spider Man 2 please?
Apenas os próximos consoles vão conseguir o 4k 60fps para os jogos da atual geração, entretanto, como se sairão com os jogos da própria geração!?
Those stutters are ridiculous. Literally just a guy jogging down a road.
Eu queria saber como o jogo roda na cidade grande no modo performance, mas julgando pelo vídeo, talvez a melhora não seja lá muito significante, já que até no campo a taxa de quadro sequer fica fixa nos 60fps
I wanna ask you will PS5 slim's skins will work on pro i wanna keep my pro scratch less 😅
I don't own the slim or the skins... sorry
This needs a 40Hz mode in a 120Hz container.
What is the software for pixel counting (I know it is proprietary) but pixel count isn't usually done with this kind of software right, because I never seen a software itself that can inject itself into a game engine to pixel count. Even Digital Foundry pixel counts by taking screenshots and pixel count them in Microsoft Paint. I thought there are no dedicated pixel counting softwares.
The software is not injected into the PS5. I don't have dev kit. The analysis is done with frames captured from HDMI.
@@brazilpixeldid you develop this?
@@dah145 yes
@@brazilpixel would be interesting if you make a video of how it works
@@dah145 ruclips.net/video/gMYQZ4LqcG0/видео.html
does this use PSSR in any of th emodes?
Can you test of vision of mana
Any chance for dead space remake on the pro? There is dynamic res in performance mode and unstable fps on base ps5.
Dead Space Remake isn't unstable? It's very stable.
@@WllKiedSnake i mean sure its not bad but later levels like the mining deck drops into the 40s pretty often. Pro would likely lock it to 60 with the highest dynamic res limit that the devs put and also could be interesting to see how the traversal stutter behaves with the improved memory speeds of the pro :D
@sarthaksharma9152 Those areas might be within the VRR range now. Traversal stutter should be mitigated. But a fps dip during a load zone will still quickly dip for a sec as that's the game loading in assets. And I didn't feel a dip to 40fps in the mining area. But it might drop? I didn't feel it though.
Helldivers 2 ?
The graphics like this should have run 2160p 120fps on ps5 pro
On a linear game, sure. Not open world
It's the CPU that is likely holding it back.
Dont let the graphics deceive you, it's a great looking game and doesn't do what other open world games do, which gives you a stupid stamina bar, I race across cities with ease, from jumping, sprinting and gliding. 99% of games dong do that because they need to render the graphics, gameplay wise this game is the best I have played and the game does look awesome.
@@connorgibson1808 the game isn't as bad as most say but it's not as good as you're making it out to be. I like the game and I've beaten it on Midnight difficulty. Textures do look flat and I believe it's the anisotropic filtering mostly. I can't wait for it to come out on PC so I can replay it with the fidelity to the max at high FPS.
Any chance of doing BG3 since they just done a patch today for it?
Only if you want to see the resolution because for FPS testing the city in the third act would be good but I haven't gotten there yet :(
@brazilpixel okay just to see the performance since the patch
they should add the option of capping fps to 30 for quality and RT
There is option.
Excelente trabalho parabéns!
mano o adrenaline tentou entrar em contato com você no vídeo do cyberpunk
The game just disregarded graphics in trade of gameplay. No graphic cards can fix this, its needs to go through a couple of more graphical patches.
What software is that bro? 😮
Katana Engine is not capable for an open world, what a mess
I'm fine with 1440p 60fps with RT. That's all I ever want.
Can you do Space Marine 2 Series X vs PS5 Pro? That’s the one game where Xbox has a huge advantage.
I do not own space marines 2 :(
Is pssr working here? Doesn’t seem like a big improvement , but it’s already the pro patch?
The Pro can only be as good as the developers working on it. You can give a plane to an idiot and it will crash, doesn't matter how good the plane is.
@@byte-bg4ob then the game devs are trash and there's no need for 4090, ps5 pro etc. Just a wasted potential on the current hardwares and thrown money down the toilet.
so now is 1440p upscalled to 4k?
Yes
the engine isn't very well optimised... quality mode should be locked 60.
I stopped playing this game waiting for my PS5 PRO to come in lol
IMPRESSIONANTE, Nem o PS5 Pro consegue dominar os jogos de PS5 kkkkkkkkk eu achando que o PRO ia cravar todos os jogos de PS5 nos 60 de vez. Não tinha necessidade de Patches pra aumentar a resolução dos jogos pro PS5 pro, ele ia servir justamente pra fazer o que o PS5 base não fez, agradeçam aos desenvolvedores por ouvirem vocês, só querem gráficos então parem de chorar kkkkkk
Vc eh canal brazuca mesmo?
sim
I think the only game that has a significant improvement is FF7 rebirth. And it's probably because Sony handicapped that game on PS5 from the start so they can showcase it as having a huge leap on the PS5 pro version. Thats why they used that game a lot to lure people into thinking PS5 pro is a huge step up from the base one. It's marketing strategy.
Don’t be delusional. Haven’t u watched dragons dogma 2 or resident evil 4 on pro? It looks far better than the game on ps5 normal. Many first party games on ps5 looks still really good, which is why we can’t really see the difference. But still sm2, rachet, and many other games on ps5 looks better than the game on ps5.
Like this is seriously Trump supporter level of conspiracy theory. You guys should stop embarrassing yourself like this, you just look stupid.
If you think a company will handicap its games with an install base in the tens of millions in order to make their newer console that has just released look better, you don't understand how business works. You don't shoot yourself in the foot because you think driving a car is cooler.
Theres a reason why when they show case games is always older title they can remaster so it makes the pro look like its worth the upgrade. But they have nothing to show for newer games cause they literally play the same exact way not worth the upgrade at all.
You numbskull, this game came out 8 months ago, get a grip😂
Good video, no idea about PS5 Pro, still have graphics setting and stuck at 4k 30fps. Not what I think before launch, PS5 Pro must no graphics setting just play all 4K 60fps RT on. Thanks for the video testing, I do not need upgrade my PS5 to Pro
Does it use PSSR?
I don't know. I haven't had time to check the differences of PSSR and FSR yet.
Man, please make a test RE4 in 4K, Hair ON, RT ON!
At 60 hz? I can. But 4k 120 hz I can not. My capture card cant handle it.
@@brazilpixelwas about to request for GoW Ragnarok unlocked 40fps & hfr performance modes tests. Great work anyway👍
@@brazilpixel old mode resolution 60 hz, 4R Hair on & RT ON as your short video
The game looks and runs great on the pro. It was on the list of games i tested personally. The difference is huge honestly
There was an increase in resolution compared to the base ps5.
What mode to u recommend playing the game on? Just got the pro
@@pancakes9043 I can't remember. I downloaded and tested it then deleted again
whut the fck this is the game with ps3 graphics why the hell this game has so poor optimization
The game worth 20€?
It is worth 40 easily... lot of characters, good combat system and even the graphics are not high end, the game has many good moments, especially in HDR.
If you like Nioh or Wo Long i think it's worth it.
Games really need better optimization. The graphics aren't even that impressive.
The open world is massive, and far faster than most open world games. Until you play the game you won't understand
@@connorgibson1808 OK
Graphical wise this game is even worse mess than Elden Ring.
O modo performance é o melhor
if the ps5 pro not doing 4K with RT in quality mode 60 FPS, it is not worth buying
You can’t expect the ps5 pro to run RT, 60fps & 4K in quality mode at the same time probably the ps6 will do that
I love the fact that these consoles younguns expect a high-end 40 series gpu like performance 😂
Y'all really have to buy a pc to experience that at its fullest extent. Not even kidding.
@ those are facts ngl
4k, RT and 60fps are gonna cost you way more than $700
@@mattyork7625 4k upsampling its ganes like Outlaws and Jedi Survivor (1800p upsampling).
Really sad that I cannot in good conscience buy this game in this state. Publishers can't get away with this nonsense anymore. I'll pick it up on the cheap in a couple years and hopefully then it'll be fixed. Way to kneecap a game you've spent years developing.
At least they tried, lol
the rt mode running similar, if not, better than the quality mode is... interesting
Both run worse than base ps5
Red dead please ❤
This is bad for a 900 euro console, Sony messed up with the pro model again.
Resolution MODE IS UNPLAYABLE on PS5 PRO, never seens something so bad optimized. NEVER.
I was disappointed w this game the trailer had me hype untill I play it for myself, the gameplay was alright but graphic piss me off
Played the demo yesterday. Can't even hold 60fps on the Pro and looks like a late PS3 game 😂 even the Resolution mode looks bad. Because of ghost of Tsushima there is no need to play it anyhow.
This game looks and run horrendous.
Thankfully this kind of videos exists
It prevents me to waste my money on this bad optimized games
Wow pro is a really powerful console
😂
AI voice
Ps5 pro and only 40fps😂😂😂 that is dumb af
Yes, but internal resolution is 1440P instead of 1080P on base PS5! So everything lookes sharper! Plus 40fps in ok to play without distractions
The game appears to be running much worse than the base model PS5, the only difference really is PSSR resolution scaling use, seems not really worth the upgrade
That's why you should have a better TV also at this point. At least one that can do VRR and 120hz.
@@WllKiedSnake all of that is irrelevant to what I’m referring to, the Pro appears to objectively be running worse than the base PS5 based on this video, with the only difference being a change in upscaler
I don’t see how it is worth $700 to load your game and it now runs worse than before
@@TJones4L It's not running worse though?..... It runs better. And it's a Ai based upscaler. So image quality is much better. And it's made for people with good TV's. Don't get it if you can't take advantage of the Pro fully.
1080p and cant reach 60fps lol what a joke
Dropping to 54fps in performance mode with texture popins
700$ scam
mano do céu que jogo FEIO, parece que veio direto do PS3, a oclusão de ambiente é terrivel, as texturas parecem que tão no low também
What a disappointment!
wait for hogwarts legacy compare
I guess the patch isn't out yet, right?
@@brazilpixel I played yesterday and not sure if patch is out or not, but i was able to play performance ray tracing mode with frame rate unlocked and get almost 60 fps stable.
@@MarcosSantos7 Thanks for the info.
@@MarcosSantos7 I saw it only reaches up to 40 fps with ray tracing on from another tester recently. Kind of a bummer. I expected Atleast 60 with rtx.
ps5 pro is a disappointment
No, the game is. The base ps5 runs better looking games at 60.
@ like the ps 4 pro. developers don’t give a shit about pro consoles. this makes ps5 pro useless
@tark5549 Most of the biggest games released recently have already announced a patch, just yesterday we learned they’re working on one for Silent Hill 2 as well, it’s clear devs are interested. Also I won’t spit on the added 10-20fps in unpatched games like Elden Ring.
@@tark5549some lazy developers*
Look at Stellar Blade now
This game belongs to trash
Piece of garbage .. hardware
The pro sucks much more then i thought
Yikes, 1440p 40fps🥵