How Do You Justify Killing Insects? | Insects Killed During Farming | Animal Rights Lecture | Q & A
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2023
- People often point out how a Vegan diet is in fact not "cruelty free" as people have to engage in agriculture to get the plants that Vegans eat. Agriculture usually involves the use of pesticides which repel and kill insects. Agriculture also involves the use of tractors and harvesters which could also kill or cause harm to rodents, snakes and insects. So even Vegans who consume only plant based food also support a system that kills animals, does this now justify eating meat, dairy, eggs and honey? Watch to find out!
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You don't even understand what is VEGANISM. ☝️😬🤡
So if there are no solutions, does it mean you can benefit from exploitation or murder of someone till those solutions are found? Arvind in the 4 areas which you mentioned, you are trying to justify the violence from your perspective and not from the victim's standpoint. This is very contradicting to your idea that you are for the victims.
@@allan_0307 So should he kill himself or what? If there are no solutions right now that doesn't mean there won't be in the future
@@leonardoterzani9639 I don't know about that...it's your vegan problem. But if y'all are speaking for the animals will to live, then why suddenly prioritising your will to satisfy your personal need? Will you say that I don't have a solution to test medicines on humans so I'll continue testing on humans till a solution is found?
@@allan_0307 "You don't know about that" and still you judge who lives a more ethical lifestyle than yours. Veganism is not about prioritising animals' lives over yours, otherwise every vegan should kill themselves for causing no harm at all. You're literally appealing to futility.
I think it's also important to mention that by eating meat, the animal who died ate at least 18-20 times more plants than if we were to eat those plants directly. So by eating the animals, we're killing the animal and 18-20 times more plants and insects. Also, insects feel pain and deserve to be free from human cruelty and unnecessary killing, but their level of consciousness is probably lower than animals, so the level of emotional pain and probably physical pain that they endure is not the same (of course, still horrible).
Nature don't think similarly to our ego, animals when well traited are aware and love being in service as being eaten for highest good of the rest of species and nature, they play the role of recyclers in nature, as human, our anatomy makes eating plants the less optimal food, I think people should investigate old school of medecine like ayurveda and chinese medecine. But one thing is sure, mass farming of animals, pesticide and all the industry bullshit should stop
@@ahmedelh410 you're argument makes no sense at all. Animals love being exploited and eaten by others? lol you understand what you're saying right? And if you want to go old school on China food, go read "the China Study", which is a 40 year study that concludes that eating a plant based diet is the best thing you can do to your health and that meat and animal products are responsible for most of the leading chronic diseases such as heart disease, cancer and diabetes.
@@Vegeta379 Lol im talking about ancien chinese medecine not current one, eating plants directly destroy the ecosystem much more than eating animals, at the end do wathever sounds the best for you
@@ahmedelh410 if you need chinese medicine then you're looking to repair your health, which you can minimize and prevent by following a healthy lifestyle.
And did you not read my main comment? If you're eating animals, you're destroying 18-20 times more plants than if you ate the plants directly. You need to review your logic.
@@Vegeta379 what do you mean by healthy lifestyle, we are ok first of all that sugar, grains and all processed foods are not healthy, the only food available then are fruits, vegetables, legumes, nuts and meats.
In case of chronic disease or severe deficiencies, nuts and legumes as well as nightshades are a big no during recovery, then the only remaining rich foods are fruits, meats and some veggies, if you remove meat to already defficient people it's game over, their digestive system isn't strong enough to deal with the antinutrients in veggies, in some case, meat is needed to support the unbalanced health of a person before turning to a fully meat free organic diet.
The real problem in fact for any type of food is the quality of the food, the real problem is pesticide, chemical products, antibiotics and all the shit used in the industry either for vegan foods or animals that is the real problem but people are too much distracted fighting about the wrong cause of physical and mental illness of all individuals because something vegan doesn't mean healthy, there are a lot of vegan products or food that are just shitty for health, we can list seed oils, sugar, grains, soy that are the real poison for the human body.
Was dying to hear his response to the question: “does it answer your question?”. Spot on.
Without a doubt one of the best speakers for animal rights. Thank you so much for your level headed approach, the movement needs more like you. Best regards from the UK.
Meat eater logic : insects and bacteria die anyway, why not animals for our big fat mouths
Me : sure, and I'm a man eater, my rights are being violated, give me human meat asap
@@NoName-bb2puit’s not “meat eater logic “ it’s normal people logic
@@TV-ob1if give me the right to eat you
@@NoName-bb2putf was this no logic
@@NoName-bb2puyeah cause other animals are inferior to us. And we are better than them. But the same can’t be said about you and another human.
Excellent point Arvind. Many a times my friends who are non veg lovers all of a sudden start the same argument. At times I would be clueless and give up proving my point. Your answer was brilliant. Thks bro.
Agricultural practices, particularly large-scale monoculture farming, can result in significant insect. deaths through direct methods (like pesticide use) and indirect methods (such as habitat destruction). Estimates suggest that the number of insects affected by agriculture can indeed be very high, potentially exceeding the number of animals killed in conventional meat and dairy production..
Then how 98 percentage animals cruelty is meat industry. It's actually agriculture😂
Very well explained. I think these 4 areas are legit problems to which we need a solution. But to participate in the solution/discussion honestly, one needs to be a vegan first. Solve what you can first and then focus on other problem areas. Else it is all an appeal to futility.
Apart from the fact that Arvind doesn't even know what is VEGANISM. 🤡
Can you show us the example in nature where veganism is practiced by animals that have evolved to eat and digest meat.
@@anuragsapkota6458 can you explain your question?
@@MissionTapasya Good Girl! 👌
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
Agreed, one must be a vegan first if one really cares about any of these issues. Otherwise, one is a serial pest using inappropriate red-herring arguments.
Being vegan results in the fewest plants being killed and the fewest insects being killed. The questioner is unwittingly making an argument for veganism. "So to be vegan is not perfect, but it helps reduce the suffering of animals" - Thích Nhất Hạnh
so if one turns vegan they wont consume more plants hmm so they will eat the same amount as a person who eats meat as a part of their diet
@@ashanmendis8091 The animals we breed by the billions all have to be fed plants. So when you eat animals, you are requiring many more plants be grown and killed to feed those animals. Get it?
@@ashanmendis8091no..but this is due to the fact that...the animal that you eat ...also eats plants ...and by ALOT more
...so by eliminating meat you are also not eating the plants that animal would have eaten
@@siddhanthravichandran3245 so when you eat corn do you eat the leaves and stem as well
@@ashanmendis8091 No but the amount of leaves and stems required to grow a 2000lbs cow over the course of 5 years far outweighs the amount of edible corn humans eat. You're comparing the numbers of plants required to feed 80 billion land animals vs 8 billion humans.
I am worried where Arvind may one day feel it is futile to convince people with these questions which he has answered umpteen times and may go in the background like my other icon Gary Yourofsky.
Again; WELL said. Explained clearly & logically.
Are you ABSOLUTELY certain of that? 🤨
speciesism:
In the animal rights movement, “speciesism” normally refers to the belief that all species of animal life are fundamentally equal.
This view is an extremist position, bordering on pathological, as it contradicts basic principles of biological science and applied ethics (see Chapter 12 of this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity” to properly understand both meta-ethics and normative ethics).
Anybody who believes that all animal species are equal in moral value will not be able to sustain that view when confronted with the option of destroying the life of either a gnat or that of a fellow human being. Equality is non-existent in this relative sphere, with the possible exception of equality in abstract concepts such as mathematics (for instance, 1+1 is precisely equal to 2), and arguably on the atomic and quantum levels (for example, two hydrogen atoms are essentially identical, as are two gluon subatomic particles).
English psychologist, Richard D. Ryder, who coined the term, defined it as “a prejudice or attitude of bias in favour of the interests of members of one’s own species and against those of members of other species”. This is a truly INANE philosophical position, because it is normal for a member of any particular species of animal to have a natural in-group preference for individuals of its own species.
For example, if a pack of wolves was hunting a family of deer, why would one of the deer encourage a family member to run in the direction of the wolves? That would be counterintuitive and detrimental to the deer’s own species. If a race of superior aliens was to take-over the world, what kind of Homo sapiens would assist the aliens to conquer our own planet? Only a human who is mentally deranged, I would posit, unless that human believes that the destruction of humanity would be truly beneficial to the planet.
Therefore, to claim that it is immoral for a human to be biased towards his own species in certain circumstances, is blatantly erroneous, just as it is fallacious to claim that one should not be biased in favour of one’s gender or race in specific cases.
I have a particularly hilarious anecdote in regards to this insane, delusional “philosophy”: an Englishman I befriended on a social media website informed me that he would gladly sacrifice his life for the life of a cockroach that may be killed in the home of a vegan who believes that it is morally-justifiable to exterminate vermin. And just in case one may believe that he was not actually serious, I can assure the reader that he was indeed serious in his statement. I know him quite well, and because his understanding of both metaethics and normative ethics is poor, he truly would sacrifice himself for a mere insect (although, I cannot imagine that he would actually go through with the deed if the situation presented itself to him - such is the nature of hypocritical, egalitarian leftists).
Therefore, according to the definitions of “speciesism” given above, I, the author of this Holy Scriptures, am exceedingly proud to be among those SANE vegans who consider my own species to be of greater moral value than the life of a microbe or a fly.
This does not imply that I would wantingly destroy the life of an inferior animal simply for the fact that it is not human, but that I would most definitely choose to destroy the life of an animal of another species in the case of self-defence, in order to survive a famine, or to protect my food supply, all of which adheres to the correct definition of the word “vegan”. As a general rule, one ought not exterminate vermin from one’s home or workplace if one is unwilling to kill the animal with one’s bare hands. In my particular case, for example, I am completely comfortable smacking a mosquito or an ant that is crawling on my skin, but I could never bring myself to catch a rodent with my hands and bashing it to death with my fists. Rather, I would prefer to trap it in a cage and release it.
Therefore, according to the law (“dharma”, in Sanskrit), the rule that ought to be followed is that the higher the species (on the evolutionary scale), the more morally-valuable it is. I’m certain that you, the reader, would instinctively attempt to rescue a dog or rabbit over a drowning insect or lizard. Of course, it is not implied that every human intuition is morally-correct, yet in that particular case, it indeed conforms to authentic dharma. Incidentally, this pyramidical hierarchy of animal sentience/consciousness applies WITHIN the human species too.
See the subsections regarding moral dilemmas and the ethics of abortion in Chapter 12 of the Holiest of Holy Scriptures, this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity” (where, in the latter subsection, it is mentioned that the life of an embryo is not as morally-valuable as that of a five year-old child).
Cf. “vegan”.
@@ReverendDr.Thomas Nice rant. Oscar is right. Arvind did an excellent job as he always does, and you are unhelpful.
This guy is Amazing...
Earthling Ed of India!
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Our hero ❤️ arvind is back we love u broooooooo
Good job is done by uploading on youtube. Keep up, friend.
He stood up for our fellow beings so respectfully and skillfully. Respect to you Sir🙏
Agricultural practices, particularly large-scale monoculture farming, can result in significant insect deaths through direct methods (like pesticide use) and indirect methods (such as habitat destruction). Estimates suggest that the number of insects affected by agriculture can indeed be very high, potentially exceeding the number of animals killed in conventional meat and dairy production.
That was such a well put out explaination to the question
Really appreciable ✨
Great response. The examination analogy is absolutely brilliant. I'll use it next time.
Also, it takes 6-30 kgs of plants to get 1 kg of animal products. So any exploitation or accidental and unavoidable death to insects caused due to plant cultivation is amplified 6-30 times when we consume animal products. So if the apparent concern for those insects and rodents is geniune, it still makes going vegan as the best thing to do.
I'm sorry your calculation of the feed is wrong. Livestock is fed with plants but the composition is not as you or the institutions claim.
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@@allan_0307 Oh wow, a video from this clown Garland Farms 🤡🤣
He's been debunked multiple times and keeps cowering away from a debate. Why doesn't he take part in a debate if he's so confident.
Also, provide a credible source for your rebuttal. Check out the Feed Conversion Ratio details for animal products on "Our World in Data".
@@MukulVyas5 He doesn't participate in debates uh? As if Ed and Ramms invite him. The "Our World in Data" graph itself splits soy meant for the livestock feed into two categories. 7% soy directly fed to livestock and the rest of the feed is soy meal (i.e. the waste from the majority of the soy processed to make soy oil). The soy oil is 100% consumed by humans. Garland farms just explained that same in his video. Don't forget the numbers are based on weight and not on volume.
@@allan_0307 80% of global soy production is for livestock. Only 7% for human consumption.
@@AuroraFindhorn That's a misinterpretation. If you feed 80% soy beans directly to livestock, you won't be able to produce the current volume of soy oil with mere balance 13% (after deducting 7% that is directly fed to humans). Secondly that numbers you mentioned is calculated by "weight" and not by the volume produced. So in actuality it's not the livestock rather the human consumption is the driver of deforestation. The institutions deliberately do not explain the calculations in any of their papers.
Arvind, thank you. Your lectures are an invaluable resource for those of us engaged in activism.
मुझे गर्व है की मेरे भोजन की थाली हिंसा खून आंसू घबराहट चीख तड़पाहट अपराधबोध चिंता और भय से मुक्त है
A Proud Hindu 🕉️🚩🇮🇳
Milk nahi Peete kya
It's not allowed in veganism
I love your videos. Thank you.💚💚💚💚.
Great job! Another good thing to mention would have been the deaths of insects for the sake of growing plants for fuel and animal feed, which makes up the majority of insect deaths in crop production.
Why are numbers/statistics more important than the individual lives of animals?
@TheFettuck nobody likes answering this question. A single cow raised to maturity can keep 2 people fed for a year, how much death is caused in rodents/ birds/ infected by cropping during that time to eat a vegan diet? Is the life of that single cow somehow more valuable than the life of all those smaller lifeforms?
@Codikas a single cow can't even keep one person alive for a year. And would also involve a lot of other deaths.
@@Codikas A 1kg of beef takes 15000 litres of water and 25kg of grain feed( The data is available on official site of University of Oxford). A average cow weights around 500kgs so We can get around 700-750 kg of beef after slaughtering average 3 sized cows which is enough for feeding two persons for a year. And now see this
750*15000 = 12500000 ltr of water
750*25 = 18750 kg of grains
This is huge amount of resources, with this much water 12500 humans can survive for a year.
@dbruce581 a full size Angus beef can absolutely feed 1 person for a year if consumed from hoof to tail. I know because I grew up on meat that my father raised and slaughtered himself to provide for our family. The net amount of death involved in agriculture is still higher, especially in the case that the beef is grass fed and pastured in its natural habitat. The question remains, is the single life of a cow somehow more significant than all of the deaths caused in cropping?
Well you can prevent killing insects by only consuming water and air😂. That harms no one
Best answer for this question. You can add one more point - Although insects do feel pain there level of emotional consciousness is way lower than mammals, so only physical pain and not emotional.
People will disagree
That doesn't justify killing them tho
Very well explained, Love all your vedios! 😍💚🌱✌️🙏 thank you !
Awesome answer Arvind! Thank you
Plants are fed to animals which causes even more insect deaths along with eventual animal death. So to reduce insect deaths then it makes sense to go vegan and also try to choose organic which don't use or use minimal insecticides. Also if pests like mosquitos and flies are causing diseases then it is a survival situation for humans to irradicate such pests. It is self defense at that point.
According to your logic it would be alright to kill humans when they carry over diseases. We should irradicate all coughing people.
@@TheFettuck sick humans should stay home and be courteous to other humans. There are better ways to deal with it. If there is a better way to deal with mosquito then use that.
@@NiranjanBendre What are better ways to deal with life threatening survival situations?
@@TheFettuck depends on situation. Already mentioned some in previous comment.
@@NiranjanBendre How is "sick humans stay home" a way to deal with life threatening survival situations? Your logic doesn't make any sense!
Most logical and Honest answer I have ever seen❤ Big fan of yours🙏
But wouldn't killing these insects be self defence as they will eat what we grow
This is what an educated person must be like. Commendable.
Mera bhi yhi question tha. Thanks for raising this question and thanks for the reasonable answer.
Great and well thought out answer! Keep up the amazing work ❤
Most of the farming is done for domesticated animals.. so if you really wanted to save insects, you'd stop feeding and eating animals too. For the farming that is done for humans which is less than 17%, Arvind's answer is valid
Why are numbers/statistics more important than the individual lives of animals?
One more argument that we vegans can present
All humans use roads,drive vehicle,and also many people lose their life after meeting with an insect,so does that mean humans should stop using roads,or does that mean that cannabalism or murdering other humans can be justified,just because humans are getting killed in accident anyway
Similarly ,we acknowledge that insects getting killed is a form of violence,but we are not doing it deliberately,we are helpless in that situation,just like you are helpless for humans dying in accident,you cant stop ot completely
That's why carnivore vegans, eat only 100% biological grass fed cows. Which means no insects are harmed. Which means less animals are killed in the process.
@@kindatheist4216 The use of harmful tools (insecticides, pesticides, nets, traps, guns, etc.) on commercial crop farms isn't an accident!
exactly@@TheFettuck
Your way of logic teaches is the message behind it with the explanation you give with it.
Yeah yeah yeah 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 arvind bhaiya ki jai 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Just see the level of unnecessary arguments, when it is asked not to kill innocent beings.
Agreed! Vegans make a lot of fuzz when they are asked not to support the killing of wild animals.
Arvind, you are the best...
Truly. A soul with a mission. His service is monumental!
He's a businessman, don't get emotional 😞
Don't see everything as a business open your eyes and ❤ think take time
Bozo 🤡
Intellectually, very honest person. He agreed that he did not have the solution but defended his position very well. Well done Arvind.
Great Work Arvind Ji❤
Used Crystal Clear Pure Logic and Sense For a Selfless Cause.
I am also a vegan from last 2 years.
May God Bless your Soul more and more, you are doing such a Great Work...
I support you very much dear brother... Love and Respect to you.
That's not the question the question is why are you looking sick.
Very well said! Killing mosquitoes can be for instance is an act of self defence and accidental killings during construction, clearing or farming process doesn't amount to wilful cruelty. Harming plant life for an instance for sustaining life is not cruelty either besides it doesn't have nervous system and therefore not subject to pain though there is now some evidence that plants can perceive love and loathing and communicate with each other.
If a tiger attacks me , killing a tiger out of self defense is justified?
@@ThorqXyes
@@hardikgupta9105 If a human coughs in my direction, killing the human out of self defence is justified?
@@TheFettuck a small cough won't kill you 😂 just tell them to stay away. Are you seriously comparing this with a tiger attack??
@@hardikgupta9105 I'm comparing two scenarios where I defend my own health. According to your logic we should also just use insect repellant instead of killing insects. A mosquito bite also won't kill you. It doesn't make any sense to allow the killing of animals out of self defence.
Exam scenario is an very Excellent example sir.📏📐📝🔍
Don't call him Sir. Is he your master :)
@@Yavor-Karapetrov If he wants to call Arvinf Sir, that's his business. He's bring respectful.
Never seen anyone having so much clarity about the topic, and he also speaks to the exact point, not beating around the bush. He knows what he is doing and why he is doing 💯
Promoting veganism. What else he doing?
This was very difficult to follow
Very well said Arvind. I am Vaishnavi from Chennai and I come from a Brahmin community and aren't supposed to consume egg/non-veg.
Though all my friends and colleagues have asked/offered me to eat them, I had no thoughts or ideas of even trying them even outside my house.
Once I came across your videos of vegan/veganism I was totally inspired and wanted to immediately stop consuming dairy products since those are the only items that we consume and foregoing that wouldn't be much of a deal.
I come from a middle class family where we can afford only around 1.5-2k per month for milk approx and not more than that.
But when I started buying vegan milk packets, since those aren't subsidised by our government, we felt it too much expensive for our family to afford and we switched back to normal non-vegan lifestyle.
This was the toughest decision I could have ever made in my life.
I'm feeling happy to see people like you, who are sticking to the vegan lifestyle for all these years.
Congratulations and keep up the good work that you do for the welfare and protection of the animals. I admit that I'm a Failed Vegan 😢
Just don't drink milk. What would be the problem? It's expensive for me too. But we don't need it.
Yes, as per what the other commenter said, just don't drink cow's milk. You're not a baby cow, you don't need to drink cow's milk if you can't afford plant based milk.
OR you can always make your own milk from nuts OR better yet, OATS. very economical to make oat milk
@@ito_tofu5324 yes very true, even soy milk as well, there's machines that you can buy to help you make soy milk easily and cheaply.
@Happy Cats and if they can’t afford the machines or don’t have the spare time needed to make plant milk by hand? You seem to be coming at this from a place of privilege, and assuming that everyone else has the luxury of living as you do. Vegan living is unfortunately, in many areas, more expensive and difficult than non-vegan living. And many people and families can’t afford that extra expense of time or money. “Just do x thing which requires more time or money than you likely have already” isn’t a solution to the problem, it’s just shaming the poor for not having enough money/time to be vegan in a society which treats vegans as an afterthought. But hey, that’s just my humble opinion, and isn’t worth much in the long run.
Very well explained thank you 🌹🎉❤️😘
I have small gardens and use no machinery. I have composts and use mulch around the fruit trees and veggie plants. The numbers of insects, centipedes, millipedes, and spiders number literally in the billions in my gardens and composts. Along with the millions of earthworms, they produce feces that fertilize the plants.
I realize small amounts of land space are not available to everyone, but almost everyone can grow veggies like basil, collards, cherry tomatoes, and many others in pots. Gardening and composting keep humans connected with the natural world in many ways. Gardening and composting create a symbiotic relationship between plants and those small animals.
If the insect populations suddenly collapsed, terrestrial life on earth would also collapse soon thereafter.
Good response. Only point I'll add is that the fallacy is called 'whataboutism'. 'Tu quoque' is a species of whataboutism where the person making the fallacy is directly addressing the person making the criticism.
Omg I am so grateful for you! So well said. The way you worded it couldn’t have been a more perfect response to such an annoying anti-vegan argument 👏🏾
I am subscribed to your channel dude. After watching lot of videos, I was in two minds to hit subscribe or not. But this video made me subscribe.. I am still not promising that I want to get rid of dairy products, but atleast, you started making me think/question the concept.
The exam analogy is really good. I like that. Well answered.
Looking for the answer to this question since long. Thanks bro.
Wonderfully said brother!!
I have a question. So I'm a vegan and I want to reduce animal suffering as much as I can, should I walk on grass knowing more insects could be hiding in the grass, walking on grass is more likely to harm more insects and walking on grass is not a necessity.
I don't know if I'm being too strict on this but it was just something I've been thinking about.
I appreciate any feedback!
Bro why are you stressing so much
You are already better 90-95 percent of the people,ie, non-vegans
this is brilliantly spoken
Solution is natural farming
Sir last point I have to say something you should not have a right to say something to someone until you have 100% solutions for something, let's say for example you have 7 subject in final exam to pass but you have passed only in 6 so you are not meant to pass for the next grade until you study well for that one particular subject for the coming exams......
Wow. Great explanation.
Finally a vegan that keeps it honest instead of trying lie about it. Life is life regardless of a central nervous system and a brain. Here is just one example from researchers…
“Plants can sense and react to more aspects of their environments than we can, and they maintain bustling social lives by communicating with each other above and below ground. They also interact with other species.”
The problem with the human diet is more about taking only what we need to survive and giving back more than we take. Circle of life.
Mission regular continue....great brother .
Very good question and very good answer
Wahh bhai.....Full Independent hoke ans. And Example diya.....ki veganism me bhi kus Chijo ka Solution nahi mila he......wahhh arvind bhai
In olden times there was no pesticides for farming.
Wow Arvind, you are the best in answering such questions. I learn many from you and it helps me to answer questions to those who ask me like this. Please post videos often.
Compassionate towards all living beings is the only key to enter blissful and peaceful life.
Compassionate towards all living beings is the only worship for the people with intelligence.
@सनातन वैदिक धर्म No. I am a Vegan
@@SaravananVallalar Arvind is blabbering. Actually he asks us to feel like the victim to criticise meat and dairy...i.e. he wants us to see from animal's perspective. But to justify killing animals for crops or in medical tests, he sees it from human perspective. He also gives "no solution" excuses to continue the exploitation in those areas. You cannot shift the standpoint relative to the circumstances when you initially claim to speak for the victims.
@@allan_0307 No bro. Not like that. He has explained already in that video itself for your query.
We have a solution for the 98% of the problem. We have Plant based diet option for Meat and dairy alternatives. But we cannot live without crops.
@@SaravananVallalar So if solution is there you'll apply vegansim there and cry for animals? So the animal's will and desires is prioritised if solutions and alternatives are available. That is what y'all are beating around the bush. It's like till solution is found you can put humans into medical test against the will. Come one...wake up. You cannot cite your "cannots" to give a pass to violate victim's will if you are being the voice for the victims. This is very illogical.
@@allan_0307 I think you are making justifications for being non Vegetarian. It is not like we cry only for animals wherever it is applicable. The core of Veganism is to have compassion towards all living beings. It is only illogical to think that since there is no solution for the 2% so we will not follow 98% solution which is in your hand. Just think about it. Your justifications are not correct.
Let us take an example. Our country has so many issues. For most of the issues, we dont have solutions. But for some of the problems we have solutions. For Water distribution, there is no practical solution. So it doesn't mean that we should not proceed with the solution since we have not seen solutions for the rest of the issues. It seems ridiculous.
Everyone suddenly seems very concerned about insect welfare!
Hi aravind
I am rana pratap and i am vegan, i became vegan by my own and after wards i came to inow its called vegan. Thats mt story.
About the gideo, u Well answered aravind, keep it up.
The glass is half empty, half full always.
Perfect answer 🙏
Veganism is just simply least harm and most good .. understand this .. not being perfect but atleast trying to reach it, though you may not reach perfection inspite of trying hard, but while in the process you are already doing the least harm you could n that's making you a good human being ..
Veganism is pointless when it is still okay to harm/kill a smaller amount of animals.
It doesn't matter to kill 5 animals instead of only 1 animal when they are all killed for the purpose of food.
I have not seen anyone so logical in explaining on veganism, great brother keep it up...
love your work , great job!
very good explanation.
brilliant reply as always Arvind...huge respect
Well said brother
Does vegans suffer from B12 deficiency? are there any options to get B12 from vegan diet? Thanks.
Well, maybe b12 fortified foods can help, but most will recommend taking supplements
great answer.. Thanks!
Highly adore your patience
That's on Target Arvind...Nice explanation
Excellent explanation. 😊
Another important point to attach to this list of reasons why vegans avoid harming animals specifically insects that suffer and die from pesticides, IS BECAUSE more crops are required to feed livestock animals than if you just grew for yourself. So saying 'what about the insects and other animals killed during farming' is actually an argument to go vegan. Fewer insects are killed.
Well said ❤
No.
@@ReverendDr.Thomas enlighten us
@@MissionTapasya He might just come and copy/paste a weird diatribe that he has in other threads.
I request everyone to have seafood to minimise those insect deaths as well.
Totally makes sense. Great explanation.
Absolutely! 💚💚💚Even without bringing up that crop deaths get multiplied through animal feed 🌱
@@biancat.1873 It doesn't make any sense to support a smaller amount of crop deaths.
@@TheFettuck Please explain why less killing isn't better than more killing?
@@biancat.1873 The killing of animals is the killing of animals, no matter how many animals are killed. When you are alright with less killing you should also be alright with more killing.
There are modern agriculture methods that respect insects and other creatures during cultivation.
Monoculture farming practices,Integrated pest management (IPM) and regenerative agriculture and more to come helped by science and AI!
Just take the courage to decide to be Vegan and respect Mother Nature and give the motivation to the people who can help to do it, for ALL of US!💚
When human rights is such a massive problem, and people of our own species suffer continuously, do you not think that it is a waste of resources, time, energy and human capital to tackle the issue of animal rights?
Nobody has a solution for living right. The only solution is to transcend thought.
Very nicely answered, thanks
i want to save the forest, stop eating plants so they dont need to grow more crops and burning forest
plant farm so i choose to eat meat, plants are living organism. how can i solve that?
I love plants so I don't eat plant products, i eat meat so I can save them too 😁🙏
Loved the video bro.
Sir please come to my school
Thank you and please keep up the great work!
U give me hope to live.... Best best best you tube channel
Well answered Arvind!!
So if I cook and eat animals that’s is already dead , is that ok for Vegans, I saw a fish jump out and killed itself , can I eat it ?
Yes you can, you will eat!
Don't seek any approval from these so called vegans.....it is your choice
I would now label myself as an ethical reducetarian. These are nearly exactly the questions I have been pondering over. I would hate to think that worldicide or anti-natalism is the answer.
There can be a counter argument:
Dozens, if not hundreds, of insects would have been killed to make a vegan meal. But if I eat a fish or chicken only one animal died. So how am I killing 98% and you killing 2%?
Answer:
1. Go for organic farmed products. No insecticides so much less killing.
2. Level of consciousness of animals is higher than the insects. Insects have simple nervous systems and don't feel pain like animals do
3. Many animals like goats, sheep cows also eat plants. So insects killed their also. And since they eat dozens of kgs of plants to make 1 kg meat, that causes more insect killing than eating plants directly.
4. Insect killing is incidental, not the goal. We try to develop insect resistant varieties of plants that eliminates the need to kill them. But while eating animals, killing them is the goal!
Insects are animals!!!
Ok but I will still eat
Thought! If everyone stops eating meat, when animals mate they get larger in groups. Who´s is it then to stop the limit for over populating? Is it better if they get old and die and we dont have any animals?
Animals in the farming system are selectively bred and often artificially inseminated (sa). So if these practices were stopped then animals in the farming system would no longer multiply. As more people reject animal agriculture the demand will reduce and less animals will be bred into existence.
since everyone is not perfect
lets be on our own track.if you are a vegan be vegan doesn't have to interfere meat eater . To understand more watch "The lion king"😂
Excellent answer 🎉🎉🎉❤
Very good explanation
Wonderful explained 👏👏👏
What an explanation..👌
we can ontrol insects and pests and not killing them. Indian farmers knew this centuries ago.insecticides and pesticides came into picture only few decades ago
Hi Arvind, how did you come up with 98% you are dealing while insects die compared to cows would not be 2% actually it would be probably other way around . Your thoughts please.