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Are Vegans Hypocrites? | But Plants Feel Pain | Animal Rights Lecture | Q & A
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2023
- Living beings can be classified into 5 kingdoms. Animal, Plant, Fungi, Protist and Monera. Out of these 5, brains and nervous system are found only in the animal kingdom, hence they feel, pain, suffering, joy and are conscious in this world like you and me. Hence they matter on a moral level. The rest are living but insentient, so the comparison is invalid.
Also if you care about plants it makes sense to eat them and not animals. Do you know why? Because it takes on average 16 kgs of plants to produce 1 kg of animal flesh. You are killing more plants and also killing animals by being a non vegan, a vegan however causes the least amount of harm.
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இவ்வளவு வியாக்கியானம் பேசும் நீங்கள் போன் கதிர்வீச்சினால் எத்தனை சிட்டுக்குருவிகள் எத்தனை பறக்கும் சிறு பூச்சிகள் இனம் அழிகின்றது தெரியுமா நீங்கள் எதற்கு போன் யூஸ் பண்றீங்க கொஞ்சம் சொல்லவும்
அப்படியே இன்னொன்றும் கேட்கிறேன் அப்படி என்றால் உங்க அப்பா உங்க அம்மாவை ச***** வைக்கும் போது அவர்களுக்கும் வலித்திருக்கும் அப்போ அது பெயர் ரேபா உங்க அம்மாவுக்கு நீங்கள் பிறக்கும் போது வலித்திருக்கும் அப்போ அது பேரும் ரேபா
I been for a vegan for 25 years and my personal question to you is if 10 years back I was having a dog and I was feeding Pedigree to it but it's having meat make sure you always felt very guilty to feed it to my dog the world slowly turning into vehicles if the world turn fully vegan how do can we feed dogs which are in straight or our home dogs cats and other animals that rely on meat and humans
@@sarathGinjee Who told you that, your senile grandma?
Again, this isn't a question about plants vs animals. This is people who desperately need an argument to continue to do what they do and not have to feel the guilt.
Exactly
Well said!
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What guilt?
@@rabikiranpanda2199 stop oppressing the vulnerable.
Lol oh my... He started so well and then immediately dug his own grave and covered it. With plants 😂
Lmaooooo
ok fine your comment is too long and time is running out 😀
Being dumb is trendy now. He acted being so knowledgable of Jagdish Chandra Bose, and proved his findings different. Even he would disagree with the fact of plants feel pain.
They just need something to escape their guilt conscience coz deep down they know what they are doing is absolutely horrific.
@@religionofpeace782 That's true coz I did the same before I became a vegan. My guilt finally won and I'm a happy vegan for 2+ years.
@@தமிழோன் congrats!
Ban music industry. Ban percussion instruments like tabla, miruthangam in concerts. There is hide glue used in many instruments like guitar, harmonium, horse hair used in violin bows, there is leather cladding in harmonium and sarangi made from goats skin. So talk about that too.
Yeah I feel guilty. 😢 So thats why I eat chicken to stay happy
Someone will understand only if he wants to understand. Great work arvind 👍
Arvind is doing great work. 👍
The comprehension is exclusive to vegan intellects. Our physique is adapted for a non-vegetarian diet. Even drug testing involves animals. Embracing veganism seems pointless unless one has a surplus of free time in their life.
@@somnathbhattacharya2819Why are you trying to make up excuses to keep paying this barbaric industry. I haven't eaten meat for 18 years and i am healthy. It doesn't take more time to swap meat, dairy and eggs for example tofo, tempeh, oat or soy milk, beans, mushrooms, mock meats etc.
I am buddhist, vegant for 23 years from sri lanka .Dear sir. You are completely accurate . I wonder how you have such a sentences at right time. I think all the vegant will go to the heaven as soos as they die. I want you to come to sri lanka to teach our people the importance of being vegant . I am finding the way for that purpose .thank you my load arvind .may triple jem blesses you.
Vegans are already creating heaven on earth. They don't need to go to a fictional heaven.
It's vegan not vegant.
Is Buddhist vegetarian?
@@hunk9730Yes, Buddhism promotes vegetarianism.
Why heaven was brought here. Buddha himself didn't believe about heaven.
The fact that he even blured his face
he's a 🤡
He is ashamed of himself actually. He knows that he is the real hypocrite who is calling the vegans hypocrite.
Is Arvind required to blur his face? It's not illegal to film people making a fool of themselves, right?
@@bauabh Maybe that guy asked him to blur his face or Aravind did it himself. I don't think it's illegal
@@bauabh If it was recorded in a public place then you would not have to blur. But this was clearly in a classroom which is not open to the general public and therefore not a public place.
You are so right Arvind. Thank you for this great video! 🙏🏽 Have saved it in my playlist. ⚓☀
Great point bringing up that he would never say "plants feel pain" if your presentation was on child mistreatment. It really kept everything in perspective.
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This world needs some guys like you
i have changed completely from non vegetarian to vegan, after seeing your videos. Thanks a lot.
1. Plants are living being. No dispute!
2. Plants are sensitive. No dispute!
But....
To feel pain, a specie must be SENTIENT. The specie must hv nervous system, and brain. Plants do not have brain so they can't feel pain.
3. Plants are NOT sentient.
People erroneously confused sensitivity with feeling pain.
Two are not necessarily the same.
Well said 👍
That's the reason this guy has blurred his face in shame. He is the real hypocrite who is calling the vegans hypocrite.
I really appreciate patience and calmness of Arvind Sir . He is epitome of great activist and kind person .
Why don't those guys understand the feelings of animals? very sad
Because they thought that they are not a part of animal kingdom.
It's funny to see how they bring up the "plant feel pain" statement instead of understanding the animal cruelty 😂
And what do the animals feel exactly? And why should it matter to superior beings like us?
@@user-mc5ih5oe8h Hey brother, Plant and animals have different Life .
If you cut an animal then the animal lost their life which will never return again but If you cut a plant then the plant does not lost their life.
We have no other option then plant without killing someone's life. So plant have to sacrifice their pain for Us as animals we are dependent on plants.
@@sushmitbanerjee1660 If AI ever wakes up or aliens come to earth this viewpoint will totally justify them killing all people. Do you also feel you have the right to kill mentally and physically disabled people? You are superior to them as well. Some humans will never be as smart as a pig because of brain damage. Adolf H started killing all them off for that very reason because they were inferior. I suppose you have no problem with that?
By eating animals u destroy more plants
The final point was bang on
Brother , You are the Real Salt of the Earth...
I am also a Vegan after listening watching Dr.Biswaroop Roy Chowdhury...I also keep on sharing these valuable facts to the people... Can add few more things after watching your video...
Thank you very much... You are really doing an Incredible Job...
Thank you for speaking up for animals 💖💖💖💖
Plants move towards sunlight 😂😂
It's class 10 biology bro
there's nothing to do with consciousness.
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Class 8-9 I think
Class 11 biology ka chapter hai 1 the living world padh lena . 😂😂😂
What a weirdo. If he's worried about what plants feel, imagine what the animals go through that he eats😢😅
Amazing ignorance here. Great work keeping ur cool Arvind
That dude lol 😂. He knew what the answer was, he was just owned and kept trying to get away from the fact dear Arvind here was correct.
The plant argument is just… 🤦🏻♀️. lol
Keep up the good work Arvind. 🥰
Good argument.
This guy is far better than those who never stood up and asked questions, and just went home and ate meat.
When you ask a question, you give righteousness a chance to invade the darkness within you.
He will only be considered better if he acts upon his choices and alters them, else he is the same as the other non vegans.
How do stay calm with these Pseudo scientific Fools? Great work Arvind
At the end when he didn’t have anything to support his thoughts and opinions, he himself said that time is running out lol
And what more logical explanation did that guy need. Even then he said that he is not convinced by it. The only reason he is not convinced by it is cos he did not keep an open mind to change himself.
A better way to argue would be to explain the amount of plant resources needed to produce 100g of chicken. Even if we consider that plants may experience some form of distress, a significant number of plants must be used to generate an equivalent quantity of nutrients obtained from animals.
Referring to nonhuman animals as commodities panders to nonvegans who regard nonhumans as commodities. We don't refer to the caloric content of dog flesh or even human baby flesh, or compare the nutrients in human vs bovine breast milk
WOW. Comparing cows, chickens,
goats, and buffalo to _plants_ that is
a ✨NEW✨LOw in avoiding The
topic and ackowledging The torture
pigs and all farmed alimals go thru!
Thanks for blurring the face of the person who questioned. Otherwise, he would be a meme material everywhere.. LMAO.
Destroyed in seconds but it took the fool to understand still not convinced because he's greed Never mess with Arvind 😎🌱
Unbelievable excuse that is being promoted across the world to continue animal consumption.
It is pure desperation to hang on to abuse and killing without any need.
He doesn’t need to eat animals.
I don’t know how I keep myself together when I tell people to be kind to animals and they tell me plants feel pain 😅
That's because you don't want to accept that you're a hypocrite.
@@Viper60589Another meathead dumbo enters the conversation.😂😂😂
You closed up the arguement of sheer number of plants needed is higher for meat so perfectly he ran away lol too bad people don't know how to concede gracefully, but very nice advocating! Perfect!
The future is Vegan 💚
It will too late by then...climate change would have destroyed everything by then. It cant be the future... there's no time left...it has to be the present...now!
Sentience
Animals by nature can move around and it is their right to movement, but in slaughterhouses they are hardly able to move, they are put in small cages or packed up in a small place.... This is not right, whereas plants are living in their natural habitat.
I love the fact that Arvind asks the questioner whether they would bring up the 'plant sentience' defense in response to an issue like child or dog abuse before relying on the fact that we have to kill more plants to feed animal agriculture. The latter is effective at proving somone wrong; however, the former is more effective at picking apart the defensiveness behind someone who does not want to stop eating animals.
His main contention is about plant welfare, and the best evidence for his argument is that he’s never heard a single person argue about plant welfare. If there ever could be such thing as humane slaughter, it would be what you did to this poor gentleman.
Q.) situation : doctors are doing critical brain 🧠 surgery named as craniopagus separation surgery." in there operation theatre the patient is unconscious and he is not feel pain.
#. He is not feeling pain and consciousness like plants as u said............. If someone want to eat him? Is it ok.?
#. Someone wants to eat chicken or turkey eggs...... The eggs didn't feel pain + they didn't have brain + they didnt have neurotransmitters....... +they are protein rich.
Q). Can someone start eating 4-6 eggs per day... Just because he recently get known that eggs can't feel pain. They don't have brain and neurotransmitters also?
Sir u r a BRAVE WARRIOR of animals🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪💪
when you say more plant dies to feed animals to eat animals every plants life activist act same :D stares and "time running out ok fine" :D
Brainstorming conversation. Great for the future.
Kalki will convince them don't worry
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Must be distracting talking to a dude with a blurry face
'The notion that plants feel pain, despite lacking a central nervous system and brain necessary for pain perception in animals, is sometimes discussed in philosophical and ethical debates rather than being supported by scientific evidence. Plants do respond to environmental stimuli and use chemical signaling, which some interpret as a form of sensitivity. However, these reactions are not equivalent to the animal experience of pain, as plants lack the physiological structures for such sensations.
This concept is occasionally used in discussions about diet and ethics, particularly in debates between meat-eating and vegetarian/vegan lifestyles. Some proponents of meat-eating use the argument that if plants "feel" pain, then consuming them would also be ethically questionable, thus negating one of the moral arguments for vegetarianism or veganism. This rationale is often seen as a way to challenge the ethical consistency of those who abstain from meat for reasons of animal welfare, suggesting that if harm to living organisms is to be minimized, the line between plant and animal life becomes blurred. However, this argument is generally considered more a rhetorical device than a stance grounded in scientific understanding of plant biology.' - ChatGPT4
😂He is the biggest troll ever...vegan for the animals ! 🌿✌
no, stop being cruel
Time is running out. Deep.
Cruelly to animals can only be stopped if the world is given an alternative to consuming milk, egg and meat. And the alternative is not plants as it has the same pain as animals do. So what is the alternative?
His mind distracted him at end, rather than contemplating .
The coward who requested to be blurred out has a really annoying way of talking.
And was super egoistic as well. Never admitted any of the contradictions and excused himself citing other people need to speak
He may or may not have asked for his face to be blurred
@@therealgrimreaper68 you're right, I didn't think of that. I think now it was just Arvind being decent.
When we plant plants so many insects, earth worms etc are killed. Thats why some communities dont eat underground food
Vegetables have water element. Insects, fish,reptiles and their eggs have fire and air. Birds and their eggs have water, fire and air elements.Mammals have water, fire, air, and earth. Humans are made up by five elements as water, earth, fire, air and ether. The more elements we are made of, feel more pain.
wonderful argument.
I am not a vegan.
HOWEVER, I strongly disagree with the claim that killing a (living) plant is as ‘unethical’ as killing a sentient living thing.
Thus far, there is no credible evidence to support the claim that plants feel pain in the same manner that animals feel pain.
Then why are you still paying for animal abuse?
If people starting killing animal without pain . To kya tab khana sahi hai 🧐
For animal rights, plant arguement comes up. Plant or animal dont come up when human roght
They give these kinda arguments when they actually feel guilty about being immoral and question their evolutionary growth.
I was once a meat eater, when my friends asked me, why I eat meat and love dogs on the other hand, unfortunately I haven’t ever given this logic of plants have lives.
Anybody, who is giving these logics after watching the horrible footages, unfortunately their pre frontal cortex hasn’t evolved much and you cannot explain them on the basis of compassion.
Sad but true 😞
Great work Arvind! Thank you 🙏🌱💚
God bless you arvind ❤❤❤
We're living in world where people care more about plants feel pain and not animals so people can not feel guilt and continue to justify animal killing is good and not plants killing
plants and tree are living life on earth
I can't understand how there are so many idiots out there who think plants feel pain. I guess because it makes them feel better. Nobody likes hearing what they do is incredibly shitty.
It is waste of time to argue with the one who says plant suffering and animal suffering is same such people don't realise the difference between animals and plants
*Last 20 sec just summarise the whole situation*
Dude got real quiet at the end.
Brilliant activism. They dodged and tripped themselves up.. Desperate to justify eating animals.
Arvind certainly kicked off with a compelling argument, but its presentation could have been smoother and more logically structured. The defensive tone risks undermining the validity of the points being made. This is understandable in the heat of a debate, particularly when defending one's viewpoint following what I presume was a powerful and passionate discourse!
Indeed, plants do experience pain and affection - it's essentially the crux of life and how various species have thrived and survived. While it may seem hypocritical to draw a line, isn't it more about finding an optimal balance? We need to be compassionate while also ensuring our survival. Minimizing food waste, adopting veganism or ethical and sustainable meat consumption, curtailing large-scale unsustainable unethical farming and breeding - these are all steps towards respecting food, life and the planet. I would say it even aligns perfectly with the adage, "Every morsel you eat is divine." Just gather some good karma while you're here folks, wouldn't hurt 😄😉
what about tree and animal?both are same.Killing animal and killing trees and plants are same
Why talk about plants? This event or lecture is not about plants. Ok sure go create a plant activism and if you do then the first thing you would have to do is avoid animal products because that is the most inefficient way to product calories because they eat a whole lot of plants!
What about mosquitoes.. even those feel pain when they killed right?
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You were a little bit incorrect in your logic, according to me.
And he explained that. He doesn't need to bring Plans, in a Human abuse speech, because Plant abuse is not the alternative of Human abuse. I mean if you stop abusing humans, you don't need to start abusing Plants instead. So, plant abuse is Not relevant in this conversation.
But not the same with Food. If you don't eat Animals anymore, then you will eat More Plants. So, Plant Abuse here is the Alternative of Animal Abuse. He has a point.
Well, the End of your answer actually responds to this - Animal eaters kill more Plants!
Of course Plants can Not feel neither Pain, nor Anything!
Your logic would be Relevant for Cannibalism.
- Don't eat Humans. Eat Plants.
- Well, this is Hypocritical - Plants Feel Pain and have Cognitive abilities!
He is comparing a sentient and insentient so his question is wrong biologically!
Once arvind answered it's very clear who is hypocrite 😂😂
Aravind please take an apple and a cat next time for the demo, so that can differentiate
Hey arvind, im from Bangladesh, my question is iodine is essential for our body right? i was vegan for 28 days, but i stopped being vegan and started eating eggs,, because im concerned about iodine,, in my country iodine is in salt, but they mentioned that there is 20-50ppm iodine on an 1kg salt packet,, is there enough iodine on the packet of 1 kg salt?
I want to go vegan, i cry to see the animal suffering, if you can answer my question, i will become vegan again.😊
Clutching at farts is what I call this. And his ego came in the way of him being debunked
Plants want animals to eat their fruits as they have want to spread their seeds.. as simple .. how can you compare
Sir sivayogi kitta poi nenga interview edunga about veganism pls
What about the people who have CIPA syndrome
Hands down Arvind is one of the best vegan activists right now
bose was physicist he worked on particle physics he was not biologist
If that's true , then killing and eating a human being is also same as killing and eating an animal.
I’m actually plant based I eat no animal products. I hate the vegan label has vegans to me are annoying and think like a cult
But honestly it’s refreshing to hear someone like you. You bring so much logic in your empathy for other beings. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
What all they say is, since we do bad to plant, we can do to animals.
Man dont care about anybody, not human, leave alone animals
Bored of plants have feel...compare your child to branch broke .....plants have one sense...but animal have five sense except speak....it same as humans if a child born from mum private ...parts the same to them ...
Milking them teeth from one year grow if it hurt comes blood and moreover a one plant can reproduce when you cut it till the root not get plucked under but animal life of one gone its gone ...
Blurry face knew he was right, he just couldn't figure out why. It's something he'll need to give more thought to, but he can figure it out.
Bruh! Why did you blur his face & why are these guys even asking questions here, why did they not do so in school?
"There's plenty of animal rights activists but there's no plant rights activist." Yeah, WHY is that the case do you think?
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Animal not problem when man use derogatory words. Both living .
Animals feel pain , plants don't even if both living
Go to medical and pharmaceutical industry, go give lecture to them about animal slaughter or animal rights there.
Plants also feeling and so on like animal, human
How about this, with plants welfare is enough. Treat your plants right, don´t go around burning trees or things like that. With animals let them live their whole lives through, don´t cut them at a tiny fraction of their lifespan.
Boom 💥 mic 🎤 drop lmao 🤣 his brain stopped due to error, from so much vegan logic at once 😂
Congratulations u r alive
why can't you upload entire event?
Jc bose theory? Where the hell you find it ? Any research paper ? Peer reviewed by scientists? No ! So stop giving flawed and weak arguments
Logical falasy.
If sea cutting lady head. And cutting a chicken. Did you feel same. So there is gradation
Hahahaha....no words for Arvind ❤