Student vs Vegan Activist | Rapid Fire Q&A | Lab Based Meat | B12 | Animal Testing | Plant Sentience
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2023
- In this Q and A interaction the student had come incredibly well prepared for the Q and A. He had many questions to ask ranging from my opinion of lab grown meat, to eating meat from an animal that has died naturally, to animal testing and how Vegans cannot be perfect, to B12 supplementation and finally ending with a debate on plant sentience. Don't miss the ending line!
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*Create a Better 🌎 and a Better You by.................Living Vegan* 💜
You are the real Hero Arvind in the earth🥰🥰♥️♥️
I suggest you to convince a religious guru to turn vegan , it will make a great difference.
Veganism is the best please live for long
Long live Arvind
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@@eligamer9811
Thank you for providing me with my daily LAUGH, Slave! 😂
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
If people don't even care about animals, why are they so concerned about plants? Because it makes them feel better about eating animals. It's a ridiculous argument, and they know it.
Arrogance and cruelty is no match against compassion and logic. Thank you for the video.🌱
I feel like we should ask, what is the reason to believe that plants feel pain? If plants feel pain then they should have locomotion, having pain would be something akin to a vestigial organ in human body, from evolution point of view there is no purpose for plants to have pain it would be torture to feel heat of the sun or body parts breaking due to insects and herbivores, the defense mechanism isn't doing anything much, the defense mechanism isn't deterring any herbivore. Whereas, when animals feel pain it is actually making us care about them, as we know what is suffering.
I don't care about animals and even i dont give sh!t concern on plants. I just want meat meat and for that i can slaughter goat, pig, fish, hen, buffalo.
@@Mayur_Kedare
sentience:
the capacity to experience feelings or sensations, as distinguished from perceptions and cognition. The word was first coined by philosophers in the 1630’s for the concept of an ability to feel, derived from Latin “sentientem” (a feeling), in order to distinguish it from the ability to think/reason. Therefore, sentience ought not be confused with consciousness, though the two are closely related.
As far as biologists can ascertain, the simplest organisms (single-celled microbes) possess an exceedingly-primitive form of sentience, since their life-cycle revolves around adjusting to their environment, metabolizing, and reproducing via binary fission, all of which indicates a sensory perception of their environment (e.g. temperature, acidity, energy sources and the presence of oxygen, nitrogen, minerals, and water). More complex organisms, such as plants, have acquired a far greater degree of sentience, since they can react to the light of the sun, to insects crawling on their leaves (in the case of carnivorous plants), excrete certain chemicals and/or emit ultrasonic waves when being cut. Perhaps the most strikingly-obvious phenomenon that demonstrates plant sentience is the way in which vines SENSE the presence of external structures, using such formations to support their stems and tendrils whilst growing.
In animal life, there are up to five sensory organs that are able to detect external stimulants or percepts.
ADDITIONALLY, many forms of metazoans have acquired a degree of consciousness, in which a subject-object polarity is established.
Therefore, when carnists claim that “plants have feelings too” upon being confronted with vegan ideology, they may be correct (at least in a rather diffuse sense of the term “feelings”), so the most logical reason for being vegan is not because plants are completely without sentience, but simply due to the fact that humans are an herbivorous species. If Homo sapiens were naturally omnivores or carnivores, then no sane person would condone veganism. In summary, all forms of organic life are, by definition, sentient, yet TRUE consciousness is found in those animal species that have a certain level of intelligence (that is, as a general rule, vertebrates, though there are a couple of notable exceptions to this general rule). Cf. “consciousness/Consciousness” and “carnist” in this Glossary.
Plants don't have nervous system
The confidence you have arvind Anna! ❤
Arvind, you are a true asset for the vegan community, you have an incredible gift of communicating,explaining, with such patience in answering the same questions over and over again from people always looking for excuses to continue abusing and killing animals instead of choosing something else to eat.
You will never know how many people have become vegan because of you !
Again,feel lucky to have you as our leader!!Mind blowing explanations! Render everyone speechless!
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first of all plants and animals are made up of cell both have chromosome,,,,, there are same in various ways and different in other ways,,, same goes to animals and humans have similarities and differences otherwise show me a human who lays eggs 😄❓
Brain maynot be the only way to feel pain,,, if you oppose that then understand before these studies shows plants have sense of fear and capability of talking through pheromones which were recent studies showing up.did you think that there is possibility for plants to do this some decades before 😄❓ you would have argued against that.
I think plants have feeling, fear and pain. The problem is we couldn't hear the cry.That doesn't mean they are happily standing for you to eat.
I believe human are omnivorous.
If plants(living thing) rights are myths then animal rights(living thing) is also a myth... The Myth that born on human brain.
Brained living thinks the thinking brainless life doesn't matter.
This guy once ate meat and he was thinking of doing something that will give fame and money. Now he is asking money saying plants doesn't matter,,,, just animals does,, veganism vs meat eaters does have a scope.
I hate how meat-eaters sometimes feel the need to be dishonest with their responses to simple questions. They know the answer proves them wrong, so they'd rather not say it.
Arvind did a great job of pressing him for an answer is a polite way - "you're making a joke of it but be honest"
Great questions asked by the student and greatly explained by you, sir.
I personally think the student was going overboard in his line of questioning, particularly the "plants feel pain" questions. He also took it upon himself to answer back to Arvind, even after Arvind have him perfectly fine answers. If the student doesn't become a vegan know, he is a fool.
I would like to appreciate the student for being logical and not talking with an intent to win an argument. He had genuine questions and got the answers for them. No BS or demeaning tone. 😊
Arvind is legend vegan.
A legend animal rights activist.
He is beggar begging for money,,,, saying dont eat animals eat plants they are just standing happily for you to eat😄😄😄
I will eat my saalad anytime with my chicken biriyani and some rhaita.
"no kill meat" I'm keeping that, thats excellent.
also I like how you handled the carrion argument. "Its not vegan but I don't have a problem with it". thats much better than debating whether its a loophole in veganism.
You speak amazingly well, how are you not more well known
I’m a vegetarian. And no kill meat is a health disaster meat. All great western money bags and billionaires are eager for such things. Just like what happened during Covid and vaccine. Pfizer!
So don’t fall for such nonsense.
Nothing artificial has been and can be good for humans.
Long live Arvind
Dont worry he is a vegan 😉
@@wh_6087, there are two reasons why vegans comprise a fraction of one percent of the population:
The main reason is due to humans’ failure to care about what they put into their own bodies - as long as it tastes good, who gives a damn about the consequences to one’s own health or the ethical concerns regarding other creatures or the environment?
The other reason is due to vegan advocates and animal rights activists being inept in their understanding of morality as well as their abysmal grasp of human physiology. Almost every single vegan activist I know of wrongly believes that we are omnivores, and they are clueless in respect to metaethics and applied ethics.
But that is not the most unfortunate thing about the matter. The saddest thing is that there is hardly a single vegan activist even willing to spend an hour or so to learn proper diet and meta-ethics with the World Teacher Himself, Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda, despite him freely offering to do so on his social media platforms. 😩
The patience of questioner is also commendable. He is not trying to defeat arvind but he is seeking information
One more thing, taking away a child from his parents(human or animal) causes a lot of trauma on the contrary a plant uses different strategies to make sure his fruit is taken away. Plants have evolved various strategies to entice animals to eat their fruit, which helps in seed dispersal. Here are some common methods:
1. Color and Attraction: Fruits are often brightly colored to catch the attention of animals. Red, orange, and yellow are common fruit colors that stand out in natural surroundings.
2. Sweetness: Many fruits are sweet due to the presence of sugars, which appeal to animals' taste buds.
3. Aroma: Fruits emit enticing scents that animals can detect from a distance, attracting them to the source.
4. Nutrient Reward: Fruits often contain essential nutrients and vitamins that are beneficial to animals.
5. Soft Texture: The soft and fleshy texture of fruits is more appealing to animals than hard, unripe fruits.
6. Seed Protection: Some plants have evolved seeds with hard shells or pits that are indigestible for animals, ensuring the seeds are eventually dispersed away from the parent plant.
7. Symbiotic Relationships: Some plants form mutually beneficial relationships with specific animals, like birds or mammals, that become their primary seed dispersers.
8. Timing: Fruit ripening is often synchronized with the availability of animals that can disperse seeds, ensuring the fruit is eaten when the seeds are ready for dispersal.
These adaptations help plants ensure their seeds are spread to new locations, increasing their of chances survival and reproduction.
You can get B12 from duckweed which grows on stagnant water in lakes and ponds. From fermented rice. From moringa. From nutritional yeast.
From mango seed powder , from all fermented food naturally create din our body
But amount is very less.
Good job answering the student's questions. One point to note:
Pond lentils are a plant source of vitamin B12, and people can get B12 from eating a small bit of soil on unwashed vegetables also.
Regarding animal testing for human medicine, there are many alternatives that make animal testing obsolete, such as: Cell cultures, computer models, consenting human volunteers or paid test subjects
New info thank you❤
WTF you are talking about... The only thing I hate about this Vegan people is this... You are saying Instead of testing on animals you can test on human volunteers... Never trust a human like you who talks about being Generous about other living beings...
By doing animal experiments we're studying whole pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics that's not possible through cell culture or computer model
Torturing humans is also not possible, but it is currently legally permitted to do to animals even though they aren't even the intended beneficiaries of the experiments
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Great work to spread awareness among people towards vegan
Excellent work, as always. Thank you 💚💚💚💚
Very well spoken, Arvind! Well done.
Being vegan is the best we can do at this time
I being non vegam would balance the scale 😊
You are the real Hero Arvind in this earth🥰🥰♥️♥️
I think your last example would work better if the non-sentient human were alive but permanently brain dead. Then they can still be alive and react to stimuli like a plant.
Hi Aravind, as always you rocked with the answers for all the questions except the point "We are Omnivores". We are herbivores actually. Because our digestive system is mostly matches with Herbivores and our animal ancestors such as monkeys and its variants all are Herbivores.
Compassion is the only key towards peaceful life. Taste the Compassion. Trust me your life will be beautiful with a beautiful heart.
No, we are omnivores, we are capable of eating animals and plants. Herbivores have no interest in eating animals. But with compassion, we can eat a vegan diet and thrive on that diet.
Humans are omnivores as the ancestors had to scavenge and hunt and cook animals when there was ice age and ice covering the vegetation. Before that they were eating mostly plants. Humans are mostly compatible with herbivores but we can eat cooked meat and some people eat raw meat even though we humans don't have any innate special adaptations for flesh of the animal. It is not just about biological features, it is about habit also. Just like you can say a Panda has carnivore feature but they are actually herbivores.
@@isabellezablocki7447 Plant based diet. There is no such thing as a vegan diet.
@@Mayur_KedareJust because you can eat something doesn't mean it is good for you. The long human gut is not designed to digest rotting flesh, which is why flesh consumption leads to deadly diseases like heart disease, cancer, and diabetes. The hunter gatherer period was a small blip in evolutionary time scales. The ancestral line of hominids from which we evolved over millions of years was strongly herbivorous and our anatomy and physiology has not evolved beyond that, it is conservative. Source: Hunter-gatherer diets--a different perspective, K. Milton.
I have changed completely from non vegetarian to vegan, after seeing your videos. Thanks a lot.
Excellent explanation 👏🏻🙏🏻 Thank you Arvind 🙂
Very clever student, clever students become more vehement vegans over time (provided conscience + opportunity + drive).
Hi Arvind!
I’ve been watching your videos lately. They’re phenomenal!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This one was spot on. Cleared all the confusion a non vegan could have flawlessly.
But one more addition to the last point.
Even if we want to minimise "suffering" of plants, the best way of doing it is going vegan becuase it requires far less amount of plants to feed the entire population and we don't need to clear forrests to make them agricultural land.
simply amazing.
Thank you for clarifying these doubts and it feels good that people are taking a scientific approach in understanding veganism.
Thank you once again.
thanks for raising awareness on this issue. hopefully all of us can work together to end brutal abuse of animals 🙏. please people . I Appreciate the content . Keep moving foward. We must stop exploiting animals
It feels like I found someone to support my thoughts logically... Thank you so much dude🎉
Response to stimuli is not the same as perceiving pain. Excellent point.
You are my inspiration and I’m blessed to hear ur speeches you are an amazing person keep up the good work
The end tho 😁🙃
Wow, first time encountering you and I am blown away! Amazing to see what veganism is doing in India; honestly, it makes me so optimistic, so many Indians are already vegetarian and open to this reasoning and there is a history going back millennia of animal rights philosophy. I never thought about this, really, but the "modern vegan" movement hitting India is going to be a tremendous force
People like you are leading that charge. Bravo! So informed and articulate, the animals are blessed to have a warrior such as yourself on their side... hope to see you continue to do amazing things! You're already at 50k subscribers too, keep going! A breath of fresh air for veganism, inspiring. I am an American with Desi heritage and I can't tell you how encouraging it is to see stuff like this, I have seen some Indian vegan athletes as well, the wave is certainly growing
I have a doubt, I didn’t quite understand what Arvind’s response was to plants warning other plants when the forest was getting cut down. Can someone please explain it to me. Thanks.❤
welcome arvind. happy to see you
He always has well thought out answers and answers with honesty
So happy to see you back after such a long time 😊
You know your stuff. Big respect for you and your work,
Any grain kanji or sprouted pulses are rich in B12.
I'm almost compelled to turn vegan listening to Mr Arvind. Thank you!
B12 is soil derived. So if you pull a tuber and eat it without washing you get a huge amt
Last part was absolutely awesome ❤
These people really don't want to seek new things and they really don't care about any species pain & suffer. They just want to argue to satisfy their ego and prove they are right.
But hat's off to Arvind patience and on point argument.
Perfect explanations Aravind 🐾🙏🌱
Animals are here with us, not for us. Be vegan 💖💖
*GUESS WHO'S BACK!* 💥💯💥☘️💚🪬✨
Spot on
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Arvind, you have such a unique and intelligent answer to every question. 🔥
Absolutely brilliant arguments! 👌👌👌
After a long time. Giving smooth answer of everything question wow❤❤
According to research, the places where people live longer around the world are classified as blue zones. Now there are 5 blue zones around the world, out of which people 4 zones are vegetarians.
No no. Humans used to hunt from ancient times. All 5 zones were non vegetarians.
Great work
Both are genuine person ❤ good and perfect questions❤
Great work by Arvind again!
More power to you , Arvind Activist
Wonderful explanation
Cheers.
"You are lying if u are saying that u dont get what he is saying coz I can totally FEEL this pain."
~ The plant in my garden
brother plants do suffer too. the difference is animal meat requires much more plant than human eating plant directly. Plus plants are usually eaten either indirectly by fruits which is meant to be spread, eat vegetables which too doesnt kill a plant. eating grain too does kll plant it just kills less plants when you directly eat them instead of feeding them to animals and then eat animal.
Arvind is the master mind of veganism!
The best part is... Arvind is a young guy & he have very long way to go...
We must all go vegan 🌱
I love the way u explain things 🙏⭐️
Back with a bang! 🎉
Hello Arvind
You are doing great job .
I want to ask what is the source of your knowledge about animal cruelty?
I also want to educate people about this. 😊
this guy is extremely underrated
Amazing work 👍👍
Very well spoken. This man knows what he's saying.
Bro is back
Final answer you rocked arvind.....
This guy is one of the few logical vegans I've met.
Crazy and wonderful Arvind.
End was 🔥
You can get B12 from mango seed powder. That is a known source of vegan B12.
Arvind man, you should try double down burger from KFC, I was watching your video while having that and it's so delicious.
Kudos ! you are making great content
Amazing talk bro
That last line!!
It was brilliant.
well there are research which states that plants actually produce sounds which we normally can't hear when they're in stress...
wanna explain it too
Aren't there several B12 sources, like pimkin seeds and chia seeds.. etc? I don't think Arvind right when he said it comes from just animals.
Welcome back.
ultimate bro but recently i have faced few questions ipo protein enough ah vegan la kadikala nu soldranga bro one day ku 120 gm protien yedukanum nu oruthar sonaru so avangala yepdi handle pandrathu
Ask them to search "senolytics, anti-aging and Protein consumption". We should consume less protein than the RDA recommended level for Anti-ageing.
Most logical❤
Arvind sir one suggestion for your work:
1. Please you can discuss with Acharya Prashant by this it will helps to reach your voice rapidly🙏🙏🙏🙏
Do u get choline ,heme iron?
We can get B12 from Mango fruit seed
I noticed many want to be a Westerner and adapt their culture/food. So many diseases have arisen in India because of this. Even the mindset!
Brilliance ❤❤
bro that last one was so lit
SHIVA BLESS YOU! SHIVA WANTS AN AHIMSA WORLD!
For his last point, a dead body of an animal reacts on stimuli but doesn't respond to pain. The means in which plants communicate, we as animals do that too, but how we respond to that is the difference. Pain is a feedback of an animal getting into harmful scenario, the animal then chooses how to respond to it later, but as a plant doesn't have responsive mechanism or instincts or cognition doesn't have any requirement for pain. Example here would be, although not a perfect one as it is still managed by nervous system, when we put our hand on a hot plate, our hand reacts to it and pushes back even before we feel the pain, that reaction doesn't require our brain, and when my brain finally got the signal, it suggested pain, but my hand was already off the hot plate, now I decide to move away from the hot plate as a response to the pain. This is the difference between reaction and response. Also I don't completely support arvind when he agrees that eating plants is in any way speciesism. For example :- Is saying that as women cannot get other women pregnant I don't think that they have the right to impregnate other women sexism ? Is saying that as dogs cannot comprehend language and math, they shouldn't have the right to education to be doctors or engineers speciesism ? If not, then saying as plants cannot feel pain / suffering / joy / sorrow
then they shouldn't have rights against these things happening to them, is not speciesism. As discrimination is about looking at some difference between two individuals and using that difference as an excuse to create more made up differences, for example : - Saying women can't drive is sexism and dogs can't feel pain is speciesism. So, if I were to say that plants aren't alive or they don't reproduce that would be speciesm. But if I say that plants don't have a way to perceive themselves as alive then it is not speciesism.
For b12 also vegan can get from mangoseed powder. Recent research has proved it's seems. In andhrapradesh here manthena satyanarayan ji says this he is a doctor of naturopathy. Even you can do survey on this.
Yas 👏👏👏
Plants, fungi, bacteria, cells, sensors all can react to stimuli but not Feel anguish, desperation, fear or pain, without brains.
It would take atleast 100 decades to make this vegan campaign success.
You're perfect🛐
I became a vegan again after 4 years because of your videos but most of my friends are hard core non vegetarians. I come off as morally superior or arrogant (they say) whenever I try to explain my point of view to them. The debates escalate into arguments and I'm starting to lose friends. Any tips on that.
Weird question, what are your thoughts on substituting animal meats with insects?
They feel pain so it's a form of cruelty and many people do eat insects...
@apoorva629 im aware many do. I raise a bunch for my lizards. Was just wondering what everyones thoughts on it was.
Such Swift ending
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We need to eat life to live,
So Eat sensibly
Don’t eat something which can show emotions..
Every thing is a life, but here we are eating to survive, so we need to eat as simple as a life like a fruit which can easily become a part of our life..
So right now if we have an option better to go for a plant life than an animal life…
If you don’t have an option there is no point in it