Is Eating Non-Veg Unethical? | Sadhguru Response | Plants Can Scream | English
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2020
- This is a response to Sadhguru's video where he responds to the question "Is it unethical to eat non-veg".
Original Video : • Is Eating Non-Vegetari...
Few days ago I came to know that what is the meaning of this word "Vegan"
I was thinking that people living in Las Vegas are called Vegans.
LMAO! nice one.
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Crazy bro
Thank god, your video has survived. I have seen many youtubers who also tried to debunk Sadhguru, got the copyright claims and videos been taken down forever.
see my comment up given many proofs
Don't say nonsensical things, Sadhguru's videos can be used by anybody, no copyright issues occurs in using his videos,
It was a big turning point when I realised that I'm so wrong for loving animals but not being a vegetarian. Right away, I stopped eating meat.
I also want to go vegan soon. Really soon.
@Biswajit Kundu yes that's right. Milk is murder
@Biswajit Kundu if u see Arvind's video regarding milk, you'll understand.
@Pennywise he is only telling the reality
@Pennywise most meat in India is halal regardless halal or jhatka both involve killing an animal and isn't empathic you wouldn't want yourself killed whether jhatka or halal
@Pennywise well you can only troll around it, show me some peer reviewed studies that show a carrot feels pain and the moral implications of a dog having the same moral rights as that of a carrot, it's just illogical and absurd.
To have a heart attack you must have a heart, to have a stomach ache you must have a stomach in the same way to feel pain you must have pain receptors attached to a central nervous system, show me a scope which can zoom enough that show pain receptors in a plant and I'll accept you are right
Please, don't block automatic English subtitles. They help the non-english speakers to understand you. And especially when you are talking about some plants' mechanisms - It's science. I need to see the scientific terms written, so I can check them and examine the scientific matter in my language.
Automatic English Subtitle are very, very useful. Thank you :)
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Very true indeed Tq
Appreciate your efforts for being the voice for the animals who can't speak. I think, you are just doing the right thing (whether or not it brings any substantial change). So, keep doing this.
I turned vegan today. Love you bro.
I don’t know how my body is going to react to the sudden change.
Anyone have any idea?
Congratulations ! The animals thank you !
best decision you have taken. its difficult at first but you will love to explore so many flavors and textures without guilt. 2022 is the right time to go vegan..its so much easier with more alternatives now..
It is all about the mind game...I think for avoiding the urge of non veg for years (atleast the urge to eat) one should gain self control through certain spiritual rituals like fasting meditation reading vedantha etc. The samskaras (mental imprints of past lives) of mind is so strong that one cannot ignore certain acts just with willpower or listening to vegan gyan. Even i was non veg foodie but slowly stopped eating non veg after becoming spiritually aware. Some already have that self control fully but some do not have it and have to gain it.
You'll be better than ever. I have not eaten meat in 24 years and have been vegan for 11. If you ever want to eat animals simply watch undercover footage of how farm animals including dairy cows are treated. The animal farming industry is brutal.
Try vegan meat alternatives when u have cravings. In India BLUE TRIBE has good ones❤
arvind u r awesome!!! your words are so powerful!!
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@@santanumondal1995 I watched it , and the only thing it proves is that the Mopane tree specifically can communicate with each ,
Not all plants...
Secondly , nowhere in the video Did it specifically say in these exact words that "plants feel pain" or , "Mopane feels pain"
Communication and pain are different things.
@@shashankphansikar7094 Actually my point of view on this topic is when someone eating an animal or a plant . He/she is eating life and particular that point what I'm feeling wrong because he/she is eating life regardless of animal or tree. In science what biologist define as life is when something show 4 least basic characteristics : 1)growth 2)responsiveness 3)metabolism 4)reproduction. That 4 characteristics applicable for both entity.
Here what vegan consider was, the plants are not feeling pain because of that we can eat. Was not it discrimination towards life?
& I'm also aware that by my logic then we have to eat only inanimate things but that's not possible.
Yes like u I'm also feeling bad when eat non-veg due to human emotions & i try to minimize that consumption also. Weather it is plant or animal. I see both in terms of life.
@@santanumondal1995 yes you're absolutely right that humans cannot survive without harming other life forms , so right now you have two options , either to kill an animal life form , or , to kill a plant life form ....
The good ethical conduct is always to make the choice which causes the *least amount of suffering* possible ,
Agreed , that you have to hurt a life form , but then shouldn't you choose the plant life only... So that the suffering that you are causing is at the bare minimum..
Will you agree that we should all reduce violent suffering
(1) as much as possible (2) wherever possible ,
And if you agree with this statement... Then, since plants cannot suffer , the logical choice is eat plants , because you have to hurt some life form.... Might as well choose the one which can't suffer ... Why ? Good ethical conduct that we should cause minimum suffering
@@shashankphansikar7094 Many plants continue to live after we eat from them Cashew trees live to 100. I get apples from a 50 year old orchard. All fruits, berries, nuts, tomatoes, peppers etc can continue to live. Cut lettuce and it grows back. To eat an animal you absolutely have to kill.
Return of the legend. Pls dont stop making videos in english
Being a Vegan....was one of the best choice I made in my life.
Same here.
@@mauryagupta6024 Thankyou for being a Compassionate Earthling Brother.
You my brother are very correct and i support you. Because of you i became vegan from a vegetarian and because of you i started to love all types of animals instead of just cats and dogs.
I think Sadhguru is laughing only cynically bro. I don't think he is making fun of the chicken's life. But what a video. Superb. Please tell us how we can go vegan permanently. At the moment I am addicted to chicken and fish. I don't eat other animals. Sahguru's teachings are very profound bro.
Now , still I follow Sadhguru but..... not blindly. Thanku
You're a rational man !
@@ponnamy hmm, guess
Hmm it is ok to disagree or criticise even with god in this culture he is just a man .
I figured his BS the first time I watched him
I stopped watching him after he mocked a vegan girl for asking question about milk.
I was also used to be a non vegetarian but i leaved it so eazyly when i realized. I am 16 year old boy becom vegan
Why's there a Nithyananda clip here? Ain't he a fraud?
He already mentioned that the people shown are not necessarily good people but at least they're clearly answering and speaking about their stance instead of avoiding it
@@Vamusika right but let's think osama bin laden is saying x thing and Subhash Chandra Bose is also saying x thing it doesn't mean there clips should be used in same breath to prove the x thing 🙃🙃
He is also though😅
You are doing very good job. You are very good in communicating , talking logically and putting facts. Please keep up doing it.
i think what sudhguru was trying to say is whatever u eat you are still consuming lifeform which only gives u one option which is should u eat a life who can feel the pain and suffering at higher consciousness or at low level of consciousness
BRUH! their's no consciousness. Where does this high and low level of concious are coming from. Their is no conciousness in plant Kingdom. So please don't try to explain illogical ideas to prove what you're saying is true. It's ridiculous and makes you look even dummer. So please stop this
Yes but this man is living in his own world of fantasy
Arvind, u explained a complex topic so simple and non hypocritical way. Sadhguru is a vegetarian, he does not support nonveg but at the same time he has vested interests, I never find his answers clear enough.
Sadhguru eats fish.
Where he told that?@@truthwins1443
I love the way you speak omg.. your amazing 👏 ✨ ❤
I don't have a job from past few months, so I asked my cousin to buy me some almonds so I can make chai. I mostly have black tea and black coffee. No matter what am happy being vegan and you are the reason.🙏🙏
Go ✌️egan!
I would love to see a real time public debate between the two of you!!
Mee tooo
sadgure is already vegitarian but he is trying to say that we cant force anything on anyone .
Arvind .. my salutes to u 🙏 . .... I am feeling blessed turning vegan 🙏 thank u son.... I am 50 now .. i wish this had dawned into me long back but then u were not there to open our eyes .... In fact i feel hell lots healthier and better .. .. But now i myself shall spread ur msge to as many people i can peacefully 🙏
He is explaining answers in this way because it will be understood by larger population who is non vegetarian... So don't always try to find mistakes in Sadhguru's explanation..just look at his work and try inner engineering. U would become way better human being trust me aravind
That doesn't give Sadhguru free chit from criticism. Arvind gave valid points.
This is not yoga, meditation or anything. Don't bring your stupid inner engineering into this.
@@slowdown7276 sadhguru says his statement in the way of sarcasm.. and also he has larger audience who listens to him.. I told aravind to try inner engineering cos it would give him much better perspective.. also don't try to belittle everything ... trying to prove u r smarter .. also idc what u say
@@vasudevachandru2569 That's exactly what Arvind criticised. Sarcasm or what ever Sadguru did to an important issue like this and using plant screams too, they are killed too stupid logic is not helpful at all.
No debating with Sadguru bhakts.
U will never change.
@@slowdown7276 u just wanna win the argument..rather than hearing what he says.. as I said idc bro.. it's ok if u wanna debate endlessly
@@slowdown7276 when you don't know about something don't call it stupid
That's stupid in itslef
U r doing great job by analysing the statements of the global influencers like him , and explaining to the blind followers that can be also wrong in some cases , I was one of them . But more over that I am a extreme animal lover so I can easily understand what ever you speak. I wish u can reach more and more people in future 👍.
Sadhguru is himself a vegetarian,and he just sarcastically told that whatever you kill is cruel,i think it wasn't his intent to support non veg,because if you enforce strict vegetarianism to every one it won't have much of a difference because they are still gonna consume it anyways,he kept it neutral and jeopardised in this particular interview but he does goes against killing of animals in another interview when asked "is it okay to eat chicken",he said why can't I just cut you up and kill you.This shows that he is not anyway supporting animal cruelty and violence and it was because of the mood of the interview that this answers were such
Yes, it's not fair to conculde about anybody just watching a single video,
@@DineshKS28 As much as I admire Sadhguru and his logic, I have noticed that he has in one of his talks sidelined and ridiculed someone for talking about milk consumption. He does not perhaps support the vegan argument. So this is not the 1st time. His 'Save Soil' campaign should ideally be tied to veganism as it directly is linked with soil erosion and environmental impact from such a change he can bring is huge.
Great video bro
For avoiding the urge of non veg one should gain self control through certain spiritual rituals like fasting meditation reading vedantha etc. The samskaras (mental imprints of past lives) of mind is so strong that one cannot ignore certain acts just with willpower or listening to vegan gyan. Even i was non veg foodie but slowly stopped eating non veg after becoming spiritually aware
Sentience is not discrete but a continuum (I have touched to this topic in my videos), and we should all go vegan.
I like the cool and calm Arvind like how he is in this video. Be like this brother :)
In one of videos of sandeep maheshwari , veg vs non veg video he said veganism is more great option not because of our body but because of other animals life
That's why I never ate meat....Proud human... Humanity is alive within me
Acharya Prashant said about this very well in his videos. You are also doing great job.
Wonderfully explained.... logically sound and meaningful 👍👍
Truth is harder then most people wanna hear,but its truth
Hello Arvind Sir I saw your videos on Facebook and got then went through all of your videos on youtube I'm really really impressed by your work and I loved the way you make people aware by spreading veganism .Is there any NGO you work for ! If it is there i would be glad to work with you 💜 !
Hi Arvind I have been watching your video now I am pure vegetarian want to be vegan but tell me one thing being vegan how to tackle with vitamins,vitamin d and b12 can we take vitamin pills?coz taking vitamin pills is also not good for body so can you please help in this?
Hii gauri, a vegan here🙋♀️, I was a vegetarian before I transitioned to veganism, I take supplements of B12 in alternative months only and you can also make vegan kimchi at home, it tastes good and also helps in increasing level of B12.
When it comes to vitamin D, I get most of Vitamin D from sunlight and mushrooms which are put in open sunlight for 30 mins. Before cooking them, as they absorb vit. D easily and pretty good source of minerals too. Hope this helps. 😊
Great video. Couldn’t agree more.
Thanks for making this video.. there couldn't be any better way to explain this..
Very well and logically explained. I am agreed with Arvind Sir.Sadhguru reacts diplomatic at the question asked.
Very effective & logical response. Very Nice.👍
Your videos must be appreciated by everyone, you speak for animals that's why God will be always with you ❤️
God said never eat meat?
@@two8915 eating meat is cruel... Beleive it or not
@@PuriGx prove it
Hey arvind do you encourage keeping pets as keeping dogs and cats in the end results in we feeding meat to them pls respond......i have a few questions
No, only contact with animal should be voluntary, means according to their will
They should be free to come and go as and when they want
Sir, you're awesome... Please make more videos like this! 🤍✨🌿🕊️🌍
At the end Sadhguru said the same thing as you do, that we humans shouldn't take lives of other beings who are concious of suffering, and should only eat those which aren't i.e. plants, he himself preaches a plant based diet and is a vegetarian himself.
If that beardman is saying plants too feel pain Ask him to avoid eating plants and animals and trying eating something else which doesn't feel pain
Yes salt
You are just so good at explaining and opening people's eyes . The way you talk ........amazing
When I first went vegan and was tempted to eat non vegan food, I just watch more videos by vegan activists and that helps loads
even me ,I am 17 years old and my whole family is against me especially my mother who does not listen my views .these videos helps me in this path .
@@adityav.p2745 that's great!! Just remember the animals, you're on the right path
@@rheabianchijohnwatre7610 thanks
@@adityav.p2745 wat happens if u eat thm see listen only humans have the soul and only humans are the supreme intelligence
@@adityav.p2745 it's my openion just chill out if u don't like it
This is good stuff. An Indian vegan RUclipsr. 🙏🏾
When we try to cut plants and if they slap us then we will understand what is cruelty, now we will not understand anything.
Thank you very very very very very much Arvind Sir for this video ❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
Thank you Arvind, great work
Both are right in their own way.
Great video bro v good information . I think bro u should have some conversation with sudhguru bcz u said all the information u have so I should know how he reacts to ur opinion and thought he may give reasons 👍🙏
I don't understand how one can know if plants feel pain or not, unless that person is a plant
And if your argument is that they don't have pain receptors .
How do you know that what you call as pain receptors is the only way to feel pain?
@Bharat Nanwani How do you Know that Sense organs are the only way to feel pain
The life of a tree is not in your experience, then how can you say what a tree can and cannot experience?
How do you that your definition of pain is the right definition
@Bharat Nanwani Like I said we don't know if Plants and trees feel pain or emotion
@Bharat Nanwani Again Ethical and Unethical is a Subjective concept no one can dictate this right and this is wrong, everyone has their own version of right and wrong, There's no objective nature given standard for right and wrong just depends on your conscience
Good point brother… when obsession happens people try to prove themselves correct trying various ways. Same thing here this video maker doing
Carry on ..we are with you
I want to know how plants breath with out nose and respiratory system????
Aacharya Prashant sir's approach is the truth and most scientific
I think everyone has their choices I am a vegan but we should not force someone to be a vegan it comes from beneath
I am a Raw-Vegan, it took me a lot to reach this state. I wish there were more like minded individuals around me.
@@samuelb568 I highly suggest you ruclips.net/video/PgZLVBaR3Jw/видео.html
I don't think eating raw is very healthy. It's best to incorporate whole foods and especially sources of protein like soy (tofu), beans, and lentils.
@@JayJay-nb1sv Curdling soybean milk or any plant milk is great source of raw digestible protein instead of cooking it. Especially in summer raw silken tofu, yum and healthy.
@@JayJay-nb1sv And I personally have raw Peanut, Pistachio and Pea Protein isolate. So it's more than enough protein for me combined with soybean Curd. Cooked beans give me gas bean curd never does.
Love you my Brother. You are my inspiration.
In ancient times not only humans but also most of the animals living on land were highly dependent on rivers for their primary water source. What was the raw food that humans consumed ? Does any scientific fact could prove what humans actually ate before cooked food and agriculture started ?
Point by point rebuttal of Sadhguru.
Killing a plant is definitely cruel and we must do it sensibly 🙏
Killing animals is definitely cruel...we should kill them sensible
@@junkpunk240 I do follow veganism bro
But I don't think we should kill plants for fun and do it for our necessary nourishment only
The Inuit and Yupik people consume fish for their diet. Is there any contradiction from your point of view on that?
Thanks so much Arvind for explaining so well!
I appreciate 👍
Amazing.
Share this video as much as possible.
Also a request please make a video on how to get all nutrients (quantity wise) in an Indian diet.
Like, I tried cronometer but found it a bit confusing.
@@dod1721 ya I know,but I'm illiterate on the inclusion of ALL the nutrients in a diet like how Mic the vegan shows.
But since in India it's a quite different in case of Availablity like avacado, brocolli, etc
Hey go look at "Pick Up Limes" youtube channel, she is a vegan AND a registered dietitian and nutritionist and also she has OMG AMAZING RECIPES. 👌
Love your content ❤️
Whatever plant have pain or not if you have a choice to choose kill only one to survive then why kill both
You are correct 🙂🙏 brother
Brother I salute you
Hello arvind what would you say about animals being used for human welfare. example - for lab tests for making drugs or let's say vaccine? Would you yourself consume them? As these are medications which are for your own survival. What's your opinion?
What you say about eggs, please don't get me wrong.
I enjoyed the video.
Good work man
HH SivaRam Swami is from ISKCON and ISKCON devotee preach really good messege
Great
Arvind sir you are awesome
Sir, I am a vegan . I have been convincing others to go vegan from 3 years. I show them all the evidences... and proofs, to go vegan. And I have seen all your videos. But Sir , when the non vegetarians ask me this question, I can't give them back any answer.... please answer to this questions of Non vegetarians... so that I can convince them..👇👇
"Okey, we understand that plants are not sentient like animals ...and that the human body is designed for plant based food...But answer us that ...""Is it right to eat plants only because they cannot feel?? , only because they have no organ to response.?? Plants too have life. And it is not correct to kill an organism only because they cannot feel and response. You are just taking their lives without letting them know..."".
Please sir .... whenever any non vegetarian asks me this question, I can't answer back... please answer this question.
Thank you sir., just love your works..
Just Ask them ,'what do animals raised in animal farms are fed?
Ans.Huge amount of plants and grains right.So even if Plants feel pain Non-Vegans are killing both animals and huge amount of plants.
Veganism is about causing least amount of harm.These non-vegans are hypocrites as they are not able to see tears,blood,resistance,crying,suffering of an animal but they are so worried about plants.Just show them their hypocrisy.
& Plants don't feel pain because to feel pain one need Receptors,Brain and nervous system which plants don't have.But every animal including humans do feel pain.
Superb video bro 👌
Hi Arvind !
Although as conveyed by you in this video that Plants doesn't scream but still Plants are living species. So, is it justifiable to pluck living plants and consume them? Otherwise the plants also have a right to grow & die naturally. Waiting for your response to this query.
This was his worst answer ever, more i watch him he's becoming more and more evasive for some reason, going round in circles. It's really disheartening for a respected guru like him speak like a politician 😥
I stopped watching his videos. Fake guru.
@@veganforever1111 Me too! When I first discovered him, I really liked him and would listen to his videos a lot, but when the subject of eating animals or dairy appeared, I went off him
He knows how to manipulate the crowd. He dont let other speak and conclude his answers. A person who think animals and plants are same, cant be a guru.
I would recommend you to check Acharya Prashant Ji's channel.
Jaggi is a religious entrepreneur.. not a spiritual guru
when Jaggi speaks ( dont even want to call him Guru) , nobody cross question him... thats why he gets his way..
He himself doesnt eat animals.
I would recommend you to check Acharya Prashant Ji's channel.
I thik I can take on jaggi in a fair debate
@@rambocool4284 his ashram students can take on u while sleeping
Sadhguru is one of the greatest human of the last decade ...have some respect man
@@sarojkantabehera6357 hahaha lots of arrogance from the follower of so called spiritual baba, first buy some inner engineering program from your master. This is called andhbhakti, just blindly following any figure
Thank you
Hello Arvind, I wanna go vegan and I'm convinced by everything you said to go in that direction BUT I HAVE A QUESTION , we're told that plants can feel vibrations i.e. if we grow the plant with love and words of positive affirmation , they tend to grow faster , healthier and more beautiful than ever , just like animals and us humans. Then does this mean they feel pain as well? I mean obviously they can sense it. Isn't sensing and feeling the same?
I'm asking this because I really don't wanna harm any being for my selfish reasons. Although I do want to survive.
I have been following satguru over the last 5 years. I agree with some of his opinion.. bt disagree with some opinion as well..
I have felt Sadhguru misleading several times. Once he was saying that nails keep growing even after death. 😏😏😏 Now how can a medical science student digest his ridiculous words.
That's true ,i think these actions are because of humidity.
That's true
I love this guy he replies to sadguru savagely
Oh my god I know right. When I heard him say that sentence, I was like but dude the AUTONOMOUS NERVOUS SYSTEM! Nociceptors! Plants don’t have that as Animals do! PAIN PERCEPTION😳
Such an EXCELLENT opportunity to persuade masses in the right direction and that’s how he chooses to go.
when It comes to animals Sadhguru always equate plants with animals..
Bunking school didnt work out for him.
It's the concept of VaasudevaKutumbam
😂🤣😂😂 Underrated comment, 🤣💯
Acharya Prashant in Your video :- 😍😍😍
Go Vegan 💜
Scientists have revealed that plants communicate through the air, by releasing odorous chemicals called volatile organic compounds (VOCs), and through the soil, by secreting soluble chemicals into the rhizosphere and transporting them along thread-like networks formed by soil fungi.
so?
Great summary, good job, I agree with your point of view.
Sadhguru simply tries to keep all his followers happy so he tries hard to remain an icecream seller thats it.
Its not that
@@shootingfalcon8022 😂it is...
He is on a much higher platform. More than your mundane morals
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He is not actually, and those who follow him regularly knows , his disciples knows .. actually he understands thinks from an angle which we do not understand.. and surprisingly because of his teachings I left non veg .. I used be an hardcor non vegetarian.
Roasting Sadhguru fans part 2 coming soon... ;)
What you think feel is. It is essentially chemical reactions or change of chemical state in brain. Feel is not something magically happening in sentients.
Having an honest self conversation about the ethical aspect is enough for me.
Thank you for making me vegan
7:46 lol he was trying not laugh when sadguru tried to prove him correct when he is completely wrong
He is just laughing for sadguru poor answer man!
As a son of a farmer, we have mother cow and buffalo we treat them nicely and after some years as things take time we will not consume their milk or sell their milk it will hurt some poor farmers who are dependent on their milk but if government or institutions will help even they will change.
I am a vegetarian and I plan to go vegan I started cutting off cheese and butter from my diet... I hope I can take it forward