1 vegan vs 3 meat eating panellists! Heated TV debate.
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In today's video, I'm back on GB News taking on a panel that question me about plant-based alternatives, the healthfulness of vegan diets, and I almost get whiplash reacting to baffling questions about protein and 'false vegetables'.
Mike Parry has referred to himself as a 'sausage expert' and yet infamously ate a vegan sausage sandwich believing that it was meat and called it 'luscious and lovely'.
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I just got my signed book, thank you so much ed
Great book- I’m listening to it on audible, as I did the first 👍
The interviewer clearly didn't do his homework 😂 attending your talk tomorrow and can't wait to read the book!
I don’t believe in veganuary because it doesn’t exist especially since I was eating chicken back on Saturday which was yesterday
Can’t wait to get mine , already ordered 😊
It's shocking how blatantly misinformed these news panellists are. How can this be taken seriously?
Right?? This dude thinks you can't get protein in a vegan diet?? Has this man heard of beans??
Mainstream news....
It's 2024 and we've got a shouting "protein tho!" guy on a news panel. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Yes, it's like a grotesque.
@@kloyoit’s not mainstream. GB news is niche
I haven't eaten meat for over 30 years years. I am now 76 with no health
problem.. I am a vegan because of the horror of factory farms.
Before the animal rights I was disgusted with just how filthy it is, and people put that in their mouths. I'm not even close to a germaphobe, I'm rather a filthy mess if left on my own, I just don't understand putting animals pumped up on antibiobitics to keep them from dying from all the diseases running around in factory farms, wading around in their own excrement, its disgusting, would anyone go hunting in the sewers for dinner? Of course not.
30 years is almost as long as I've been alive, that's bloody awesome! 😄🙂
@@Johny40Se7en Haha, I'm not quite at 30 yrs yet but as you get older your friends start getting sick from diet related diseases and they start dying while you just keep on. a friend of mine died in 2023 what was always doing the "i would never give up bacon" to me, I never once proselytized, it was her business, she lived on pain killers for a couple decades, and i'm really not trying to sound superior but I had some chronic pain before stopped meat and diary at about 40, and tried to share that experience. It was really the strangest part I felt so much better after, didn't really expect that.
You rock, Lynne!
I haven't eaten meat in over 45 years. I regret that only went vegan around 12 years ago.
this feels like christmas dinner with my extended family
"I've been working for 6 months at Tesco."
"You must give me pointers if I'm ever in the store."
"I've been vegan for 10 years."
"Lions teeths are literally triangles."
Man, It's just unbelevable how well you can perform under so much pressure. The animals are lucky you exist Ed!
That's what she said.
@@michaelh.5392 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I’m going to cook a brisket because I watched this.
@@Jacksswomg you’re so cool🫢🫢🫢🫢
@@robbiekenyon1267 and full of beef!
Forcing vegans to eat fake vegetables! Thats a new one on me. Also utterly bonkers and scraping the barrel
I have no idea what point he was even trying to make there, lol. Incoherent. For someone who has had so much exposure to veganism, you'd think he'd have moved past the absolute most elementary arguments by now, I think he is just genuinely stupid
Right? Have never heard that one before either! This one goes in my book 😂
... 👏👏👏
That has to be the most bizzare argument I've heard from an anti-vegan so far, and that's really saying something...
Also "forced to eat"? Only children complain to be forced to do something. Seems so odd to be both delicate and childish when your diet comes from such a gross exploitation...
Ed, this was truly a superhuman display of calm rationality. Veganism couldn't wish for a better spokesman. Kudos!
💯🎯👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Absolutely agree with this.
Hes making a fortune by telling lies and promoting sickness with veganism.
It was a hard watch listening to the same old justifications
YES! And it made the others look ridiculous, go vegans!
“But Where Do You Get Your Protein??”…. Gosh this takes me back to the 90s. 😅
All they did was focus on themself..! Trying to defend their meat cravings. Not listening to what Ed was saying. You were ones again brilliant Ed! I bought your book, can’t wait te read it.
lol that dude on the left asking about the protein really thought he had the most intelligent hard-hitting question ever posed.
Dude hasn't ever given this topic a minute of real thought. At least the other 3 were coherent, I barely understood what this guy was trying to say. Like wtf was the cabbage question?
Would you eat a fake cabbage 🤣🤣🤣
His rather loud point of "you can only get protein from meat" then immediately blended into "vegans are shouty". Ignorance and irony in one statement.
lol yeah it was funny how he phrased that protein question
These people literally have nothing but misinformation to offer.
You'd have thought the the specimen of health on the left would have learnt his lesson when he though a vegan sausage was a real sausage and it tasted amazing. Obviously he was very embarrassed when he found out it was a vegan sausage, yet he still felt the need to embarrass himself further on this show
Agreed but if I could offer my two cents I would avoid using the word misinformation. it's so charged nowadays that bringing it up turns the whole thing political and that just kills any attempt of persuasion
@@Simon-Smith.Exactly what I thought, that he looks like a specimen of health. 🙄
People should be able to choose their own diet. Nobody should criticize anyone else's diet.
People have been eating meat since the beginning of time. If people choose to be vegan that's their choice. Nobody should try to force dietary restrictions onto anyone else.
We shouldn't criticise those who choose to abuse animals, are you sure about that?@@user-qd9fy8on4y
Hi Ed! Don't know if you read these... I am an English teacher and I've been using this video for the past couple of weeks to teach my students about logical fallacies and how to debate. It's been particularly useful because the vast majority of my students are meat eaters. The two adjectives used to describe you most have been 'calm' and 'prepared'... (at least a few of my students also mentioned 'handsome'!)... Both of my sons are already vegan and I have been trying for their sakes... Now that I've watched several more of your videos, I can't eat meat anymore. I think the truth of the thing is that the only honest answer for eating meat if you're educated, is that your pleasure outweighs the rights of animals to survive... all other arguments fall apart. I can't do it... I get more pleasure from allowing animals to live.
Out numbered again Ed. Well done for keeping your composure. So quick and skillful with your responses. 👍
Ed is absolutely crucial to the movement. 3 idiots couldn’t trip him up. Incredible composure. What a brilliant man.
The one on the far left was the only dumb one. The others were antagonistic but no as dumb as he!
What about Mike's 'false vegetable' gibberish at 6:40? I honestly don't know how Ed didn't laugh at that ridiculous argument.
@nebulaaah that Mike is an absolute t**t. He even proved how good vegan sausages are, before trying to back track after being told the sausages he'd tried were vegan, yet before being told he said they were very tasty.
@@nebulaaahyes thats a new one!!
that women listen better then the other men when anyone should be change at the first it is the woman I think :)
Ed I don’t know how you keep your composure against these people who just don’t listen to the point you’re trying to make, you’re a role model for all of us as activists and advocates
because he's not arguing with them but for the many many more other people watching them 😀
I know!! I was thinking and literally commented the same word too. The composure! Well done Ed Winters, thank you!
So true, they just constantly get defensive, as if something he says triggers something inside of them and then continue to cut Ed off when he’s clearly not finished speaking 🤦♀️ so rude these people just don’t want to face their actions and change. I went vegan over 6 years ago, thanks to Ed for sharing information. So grateful for you Ed, you make a massive impact in our world for the good!
I think he has compassion for their idiocy and ignorance. They're loud and reactive and he's calm and reasonable, it's a nice contrast.
i know right. everything they did seemed to be designed to trigger him with the assumption he would be fragile or get flustered and put him off his game, or get angry back or something, but it didn't work, and he even managed to get a few good points in. i applaud him, it can be difficult in situations like that. i think he did much better than i would have with that much hostility in the room.
Millions of plants? 😂😂
edit: Some idiots need to gain nutrition knowledge.
Are you saying, you don't think it's an accurate estimation??? 🧐😂
yes you would need to eat millions of pods of edamame to parallel the protein content of 1 hamburger
As someone who eats an almost exclusively meat-based diet, the people on that panel were insufferable to listen to. How embarrassing they were. Not an intellectual thought between them 🤦🏻♂️
The woman was the only one who showed a real interest and listened to him
Imagine still not knowing protein isn’t only in meat in 2024
but more so that...ALL protein is made in plants carnism is a cult..glad i woke up out of it
Meh I'll continue to get it from the animals
@@rondarkman. Another idiotic trolling meat shill!
That remark was shocking to me. With all the documentaries now that highlight vegan athletes etc.
@carstenaltena
Lol vegan athletes 🤣 😂 a few perhaps funny though all these sporting clubs have billions and nutrionest ect and don't advise a vegan diet
Ed really does know how to argue with a meat eater and he really does win every time. Thank you, Ed.
He’s so good at it, they have to cut him off because they know he will win over the masses 😂
@@sydneyfuryyeah it seemd like they cut it short because they know they look bad.
@@mazi2646 I couldn’t agree more. 🤍
I agree, Ed is the most articulate and well spoken 👏🏼
And what's this arguing achieved?
It’s nice to see a debate that was calm and cordial. It would be nice to see interactions like this on American news stations.
Well done, Ed! That didn't look comfortable, but you held it together quite admirably and raised so many great points. You certainly won the debate, in my humble opinion!
Imagine calling someone a bully for standing up against the suffering of innocent animals whilst bullying innocent animals onto your plate.
Seemed like he was projecting utter bollocks with that, considering how other animals are bullied on behalf of consumers, funded by uninformed "food" choices everyday.
Then consumers try to justify their horrible choices clinging onto fallacies and absolute nonsense. It's just bizarre how most people buying that crud choose not to make the association because it's too horrid to watch, but at the same time, paying for those other animals to be raped and mutilated. Also claiming to be animal lovers. Minus respect for it... 😐🤨
You don't have to bully animals to eat meat. They sell meat at the grocery store.
@@MasterMoronI would respond to you but your username says it all ;)
@@sydneyfury😂
The exploitation and persecution of bullied animals is seen as normal by meat-eaters and this is how deluded they are. Vegans are generally not protein-deficient.
"protein comes from meat" 🙄
😂The lack of basic knowledge is jawdropping
i lterally had to stop watching there. people so confidently ignorant just shouting litteral nonsense
I had to pause the video like 8 times to lough or react. The were so ignorant its crazy@@lukasmadrid1945
Oh dear.
I instantly paused at that moment thinking "you have got to be kidding me", and went straight into the comment section.
I'm so impressed by you, every time! Such a bias host too! Great job keeping your cool!
I wish I was as good at debating people as earthling ed. they were ganging up on him, interrupting and he stayed calm and answered it all so well. This movement is fortunate to have him.
This was such a hostile environment they set up. You're a freaking saint for just staying calm and collected and not letting the constant interrupting stop you from putting all your points so succintly and clearly. The vegan community is so lucky to have you Ed.
The animals are lucky to have Ed too :D :D
Really? I thought they set up the weakest opponent for Ed to annihilate. He literally argued that we need meat for protein! Overtly hostile but subliminally aligned
EDIT: Yep, seems like it was to promote Ed's book. Didn't hear any promo from the "opponent" and didn't sound like it was cut out
because you don't have to do anything extraordinary as a meat eater. meanwhile Ed has to write a book to get on tv. @@JuiceTubes
@@JuiceTubes I mean the "plant protein doesn't exist" guy was an absolute moron, but all 3 were aggressive as hell, and the fact that he doesn't even LOOK like he's losing despite all that is actually very impressive
Absolutely. Forever thankful to this incredible human being. 🙌💚🌱
The cluelessness of these people give me anxiety attacks
Have some delicious animals ❤❤
@@rondarkman. Yes...point proven...you are clueless.
pathetic.... @@rondarkman.
@@reesalternateuniversethere is nothing nutritious about vegan food. Around 15% is is digested by the body. The magical ruminant animals convert vegetation FOR US to eat. The wonderful food chain.
@@reesalternateuniverse
Naw cope vegan xoxo
I love that he stayed calm
i' have been watching tthis channel for years, and turned vegan 6 months agoe, yeah i know it took me a while. but thank you for sharing all the facts with us.
Better late than never to do the right thing. We are all kept intentionally in the dark by traditions habits and conditioning. Adverts and the promoting of meat dairy and eggs are vile and corrupt. We must find our own right and true path in life no matter how long it takes. Better to follow our own conscience than the crowds being led into lies and following in the wrong direction. I have been vegan for nearly 13 yrs and at my personal best at nearly 69 yrs of age. When we find the truth in life its hard to ignore when we have a fully developed conscience.
Always impressed by how patient Ed is. Even when he has to debate 3 people at once that constantly interrupt him and use just really silly arguments
It’s painful to watch, people will say anything to justify eating animal corpses.
I am vegan and yes it does make me better than you because my morals align with my want to reduce animal rape and slaughter. Also I am actually dead due to lack of protein😅😅
Non-arguments*
@@DJParamore bingo
@@DJParamore I died years ago
My Cousin said, if we stop eating chickens pigs and cows, they'll die out...go extinct
Can’t imagine being a grown adult and believing only animal products have protein 💀
Right, and he doesn't even wonder where the animals are getting their protein from.
it does seem to be something a lot of people need to be reminded of lol that plants have protein too
And being so confidently wrong about it, too 💀💀💀
@@biancat.1873Exactly!
@@justinh2701 your point is moot as anyone can get enough protein easily, if they know basic nutrition, which everyone should.
Genuine legend. Thank you for existing Ed.
i love how intelligence and arguments can costruct a serious conversation wuith people who at first was not taken seriously the isseu. love your work
Outstanding performance against ignorance and shouty bigotry. Well done Ed 🎉❤👍👍👍👍
The contrast between the shoutiness and Ed would have had me looking into more of what Ed had to say (if I were a meat eater - even more so).
I've been vegan almost 6 and a half years. And I cannot fathom how Earthling Ed keeps putting up with these ignorant buffoons.
Kudos and much respect to him.
@@justinh2701 oh here you are again, so angry, seriously it's an addiction, get over it, you're being irrational.
Isn’t it kudos? I’ve never seen it spelled with a C.
For sure though, I almost want to dislike this video because they barely listened to Ed.
Be careful not to trip on your hippie hair Jessie.
I think with experience, you learn to look beyond people's gut reactions to veganism and understand that you yourself were probably in a similar position as them at some point. At 6 years, I was still what people would call "somewhat militant" with my veganism and angry at people. But now at 13 years, I've always found the "live by example" and argue calmly is much more productive as it makes people see you less as an adversary. Ed seems to have perfected this calm and reasoned approach, which we can see has been quite successful.
@@elise3455 I can't even begin to wonder how many times you tell yourself you are right to remain convinced.
Life consumes life to create more life. Those are the rules, I did not make them up.
So you have the burden of explaining why you will shed crocodile tears over pigs and cows but insects are fine. All of these animals are sentient so what is the factor that makes a life worth moral consideration? You are making the claim, you have to support it.
Furthermore, everyone starts as a baby eating meat. So the idea that you are a heroic infallible champion for choosing plants now is a joke. You're a hypocritical narcissist.
And did you win! :) You are a true example, thank you!
Ed, you did so well!💚
P.s. I'm a regular at No Catch 😊
The way you handled that was truly phenomenal Ed. They spoke over you so many times and Mike brought up the most ridiculous points and you still kept your cool.
It's infinitely easier to be vegan than it is to justify not being vegan
Where can i get heme iron, saturated fat, vitamin D, and Taurine?
@@GarudaLegends Vitamin D can be gotten from a supplement. Sourced from Lichen, specifically. That's the only one I can recall off the top of my head.
@@KelkohTV what about heme iron and Taurine?
@@GarudaLegends Not totally sure why you care about saturated fat, but coconut oil or palm oil.
Easy to justify not being vegan and that's health, plz provide the ex wfpbd study and if it is in favour of veganism I will go plant based
So very happy and lucky to have you leading the change towards health, Mon Ami. You are well articulated, and quick to debate and open the minds that are still stuck and locked
They consistently talk over him and he stays respectful the entire time. Wow, what a person. Incredible.
Because their all Ego and Disrespect
I don't like bullies either, which is why I don't abuse innocent animals.
Word
I don't either. I buy my meat from the grocery store.
@@MasterMoronPaying someone else to do it for you isn't any better. You are still partly responsible for what's happening.
@@liangonzalez523responsible? I want to support the meat industry.
@liangonzalez523
Meh it's food
When you said, " I know you are quite fond of the vegan sausage!" you killed me 😂
The best part. 💀💀💀
Loved it, too!
I don't watch much youtube debate content these days but this was a great showing Ed, you spoke eloquently for the movement
This is why it’s so hard to debate people. I’m pretty sure they never listened to you and considered your points, they just kept trying to think of more points of their own.
That’s okay, because the people who view this are getting answers to questions they probably ask themselves. It’s a win 🥇
A fake cabbage....always think I've heard them all until these kind of statements 😂😂
I was literally speechless after he said that like what the actual f*ck is he on about? Such a ridiculous statement
you have to laugh.. I mean, what else can we do? :)
This is quite possibly one of the most infuriating and mind-bogglingly stupid interviews I’ve ever watched. Thank you and I’m sorry Ed for dealing with this.
That said, I think it was absolutely clear that Ed responded and knocked down every last argument that they raised and did so in a very convincing way in spite of their outward hostility against his position. Easily felt like Ed was on the "winning" side both logically and rhetorically speaking.
Very true,, its painful to watch even for a few minutes such ignorance...
I can't watch it then or it will get my a-fib going.
this panel makes defending veganism look easy.
@@allanhernandez6692in our eyes yes. In other ppls eyes it sounded like William has a point with the protein and the fake vegetables. The majority still cling to any argument against veganism even if it's false.
The other week someone said to me that 90% of vegetarians (she meant both veg and vegans) aren't healthy. I asked where she got that stat from. She said "I just believe it to be that way"
Absolutely stunning amount of patience.
You, Sir, are a BEAST of critical thinking AND civility. And of course, you did win against those three, seemed effortless too.
Not to be rude but two of people on the panel were a cheeseburger away from a heart attack, and the other wasn't a good look of health either. Then there's Ed who out witted them all and much easier on the eyes than the rest. Great job Ed!😊
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Yeah, them arguing about health is somehow really funny
Straight off the bat - an EATING DISORDER?! And then it’s never mentioned again. I wish Ed had the opportunity to shut that one down but they hardly gave him the chance to fully respond to any of their lame argumentative pokes.
Eating animal products is a MORAL DISORDER.
Ed cited the many expert organizations around the world who endorse a vegan compatible diet, so he did shut it down indirectly.
That's GBN for you. They are the Fox News of the UK, owned by the same guy iirc.
All i can say is the plant food range in Aldi is always full and meat section is always getting restocked
We too have commented on this.
@@garyrothwell1914 really last time i went there the fruit and veg was nearly all gone. i worked at lidl. you would need 4 full pallets of fruit and veg each day. on;y 1 pallet of meat would arrive.
The Aldi i go to have a good range of vegan frozen foods and are always restocking, so there must be the demand for it. The best number one change i ever made in my life nearly 13 yrs ago was to go vegan.
@@ruthsmith1694 There must be more vegans in your area, I eat fresh natural root vegetable every day with no meat, I've found a nice balance I'm a meat eater,I would never eat the processed packet plant food from a supermarket it's not natural
Farmed animals are fed all kinds of supplements before being slaughtered, and also fed antibiotics. If you do some research and educated yourself you will find out a lot of things the farming industry keeps hidden from the paying consumer.
you are one of my heroes, thank you
"Need meat for protein, cavemen, ..." Bruh. Great job staying patient and spitting facts, even when facing a lot of ignorance it seemed.
Seriously. Where do they find these people and why do they let them on TV? It's embarrasing.
Thank you, Ed. 💜
It's almost as if this is setup for Ed to win. They bring buffoons that serve him easy layups.
Yes vegans shouldn't be on TV
@@rondarkman. Sick burn. Maybe you should've been up there arguing for the meat eaters. 🤦♂
@AdamTheKluga
Don't need to argue or debate, it's simple I use animal products
@@rondarkman. Hope you have a good hospital plan.
You won every time, Ed.
Won what? I'm tucking into a chicken burger as I type this, so what's he won again? People are always going to eat meat. Stop trying to force your ideals on everyone. You may convert a few, but the meat industry will always exist.
Thank you for speaking and giving us a voice. It's a pleasure watching you.
Once again it's painfully clear that there is no argument against veganism.
"bacon is a carcinogen"... when they get the chemicals for it from celery and other vegetables... yet another example how Ed knows nothing. You're all in am echo chamber. Not to mention, they're doing research on treating cancer with Nitrites.
Just to note I wouldn't use three poorly informed panelists comments as evidence that there are no arguments against veganism. I'm pretty sure a well-researched person could conceivably come up with one or two well-founded arguments based on maybe e.g., health, such as "Mediterranean diet is slightly more healthy than whole-foods plant based diet". But of course, when you stack up all of the ethical, environmental, and health arguments, veganism really is the only moral choice.
Yes there is.. I do not care and I like meat! So F*&CK veganism!
@@ffgggkokin the famous words of John McEnroe "you cannot be serious"
You need to do some research you will learn in 5 minutes that's not true
These people had no chance. 😂
I’m still eating beef steak chicken fish and dairy so in my opinion Ed failed
@@maxmcintyre5068 if you listen to absolutely zero points, then yeah. They lost at every single point, and Ed refuted every single argument.
@@maxmcintyre5068
He cannot heal mental disorders 🤷
@@seitan8386 Yes Bill Gates is developing lab grown meat. That'll be the next stage you're sold in 15yrs time. This ''argument'' is staged, as the agenda is to get the proles off meat and a nourishing diet. Or do you think the elite WEF royalty etc will give up meat to save the planet? You're being sold a con, and Ed's the actor is part of it.
@@maxmcintyre5068
No, you failed. There's still hope though if you're willing to self reflect & realise you might hold conflicting beliefs about animals. It's not easy though (been there) so I assume you'll probably just continue feeling guilty & trying to deflect your uncomfortable feelings. Hope I'm wrong though. It's not your fault you've been conditioned
I am a 2nd hand vegan. My food eats plants. Buy why do they think it's ok to eat my food's food?
Well done, Ed! Very enjoyable conversation all around.
Wow, they don’t even let you finish with your answers. Thanks for everything that you are doing Ed.
They just want to hear themselves talk while they ignore the conversation to think of the next thing they want to say. Its rather pathetic and embarrassing to watch these interviewers behave like children throwing fits to get their way.
It's so funny how they call vegans 'bullies' despite constantly interrupting you with arguments that make no sense and not letting you speak. "Fake vegetables!?" As always Ed you're a huge inspiration and it's great seeing how calm and composed you are against these people.
yeah, wtf even was that fake cabbage 'argument'? lol! sounds like something Neil DeGrasse Tyson would say
@@hannahmitchell87omg that argument actually had me rolling. Like what even
Why meat eaters always get bent out of shape for calling vegan sausage a sausage? Why they have no problem to call a cow "veal" or a pig "pork" and "bacon", argue that too then. 🙄
I think you're missing something. The issue with "vegan sausage" is that a sausage is thought of as with meat, ergo, a vegan sausage can't exist. Although I eat meat, I don't get the problem though. My dad was bitching about this exact thing not too long ago, even though it's obviously just a question of marketing. "rolled plants and chemicals" simply doesn't sound as good.
@@LoveToSpootch sausage is just a shape that the meat was formed in. Why can't a vegan one exists? Many things didn't exist until they've been invented, so I don't see the problem. Shall we trip about people calling electric cars "cars", because they can't exist - cars run on gasoline, but electric is not a car, call it something else?! 🤷🏼♀️
You’re incredible well done!!!
“I have respect for vegans but…” that’s just a nice way of saying I don’t care about what you have to say, I’ll continue being a disingenuous animal eater because Im too comfortable with my habits
I have respect for vegans but… i was a vegetarian for some time (not vegan) and found that i was healthier and felt better eating meat. I had more energy, and feel it nourishes me much better than a plant based diet can. Everyone is different and have different dietary preferences and requirements. Stop imposing your preference onto everyone else and trying to make everyone vegan.
@@rudy8409 feelings arent evidence. The overwhelming scince demonstrates well planned plant based diets are healthier. But thats actually irrelevant becuase Veganism is about ethics, not diet. And nobody is making you go vegan, thats impossible. How about you stop putting pigs in gas chambers. Youre imposing your oppression and sexual abuse on animals
@@rudy8409and was that incredibly subjective feeling justified by any actual evidence? there's not a single reason for you to still be eating meat.
@@rudy8409What epistemic framework do you use to come to the conclusion that you’re healthier by eating meat?
@@rudy8409The most important thing is to plan. Meat is much more calorie dense than beans or tofu. Eating a healthy plant based diet necessitates eating a larger volume of whole foods, so if you ever try again, make sure you're eating the same daily calories you're used to.
People who don't have a strong enough motive to be vegan, and just do it because it's a trend or want to go on a diet, tend to not plan and then fall off, beacuse well, trends change all the time, and there's only so much time that one can "go on a diet".
But veganism is an ethical position against animal exploitation. Only those who truly feel that postion in their hearts can be motivated to act accordingly. When people say "i was vegan for a month" what they should say is "i ate a vegan compatible diet for a month". They weren't vegan, they just tried to act as one, and it's hard to try to be someone you're not.
I love how calm, composed, and quick Ed is with his responses. Ed is the G.O.A.T in the vegan movement! 🙌💚
i agree. i think i would not have done as well with that much hostility in the room.
How you perform under pressure is outstanding, good job Ed!
Awesome Ed!! Outstanding
It's interesting how people suddenly become concerned about health when it comes to veganism. They are sitting there, overweight and obviously didn't care that much about their health before.
Thank you Ed!!!🙏💚🌱
💯🎯🤦🏻♂️
yup there's burgers, hotdogs & fried chicken & pizza on like every street in America and no one ever gives eachother shit about it but when a vegan walks in they're all become health experts.
@AaronVets and some people are naturally bigger it can be hereditary and not always diet related
I literally laughed out loud at that guy Mike Parry giving us nutrition advice about the body needing animal flesh to stay healthy, I mean the guy has (literally) already had heart failure and he's morbidly obese even now and he's telling us not to eat a plant based diet? 😂 You couldn't make it up. And of course, if you didn't already know, on the Jeremy Vine show he wasn't able to distinguish a vegan sausage from an animal one which was truly priceless 😂😂🤣
Out of curiosity, did he state that he could beforehand?
@@EuroMIX2He claimed to be an expert on sausages. He described the second ( Vegan) sausage as lucious, like the one he had this morning. "I can taste the meat" are his exact words. When he found out it was vegan, his tastebuds suddenly changed their mind and it tasted like cardboard.
I saw that at the time, he cannot tell the difference.
@@SuperVegasvince That's hilarious, thank you. The "vegan food paradox" in action; it's simultaneously the most delicious and disgusting thing depending on if they know it's vegan.
I think he is still hurt from that haha. A true Meatflake
'MILLIONS of plants' 😂. Props man 👏👏
Ed is so calm but fast but he really needs to be in these situations. Great stuff
7:09 I know you're quite fond of the vegan sausage of course😆
rekt
mike parry is the best argument for veganism, he looks so unhealthy and is always so angry for no reason
xD The guys a total clown, I love the dig that Ed got in about when he was duped by a plant based sausage hahahaha
@@Johnsmith-fz2dmthe false cabbage was just the icing on the cake too
The guy actually suffered heart failure at one point, so you'd have thought hed have taken a long hard look at all that saturated fat he was eating, guess not though, seems the body needs that stuff (according to him) 😏
Ed, youre a master communicator. Great ambassador for the vegan movement. So grateful for all you do. Thank you.
Just coming back from @Hamstarist channel's debate of @vgnbooty Tash, Jack versus carnivores, farmers and a slew of misinformation and gaslighting in the comments by animal abuse advocates, it's a stark contrast how well-educated, logical, powerful, and wonderful the vegan community is. 🐥🕊🌿 I just hope and believe, that those very people who argued tooth and nail to defend animal exploitation in the modern, civilized world where we have ample choices, will look back one day how irrational they had once been. ⚖️ Excellent job as always, Ed! ❤️🔥 Your patience, calm, and respect are unearthly.
I’m so happy to have someone like you representing the vegan movement.
Ed is such a beautiful soul
My soul would die arguing with meat eaters all the time. I applaud your endless patience 👏
Then, just don't argue and mind your own business, that's it. If you are actually vegan by the mean of not killing animals for consumption, than ok. It's fine, it's a preference, a value. If you really want to a big push in the good direction for meat consumers to actually not kill animals. Then create something, meat produces in a lab or something like that is AT EVERYTHING EQUAL to MEAT and then maybe they will change their mind and eat THAT thing instead of killing animals. If not, just mind your own business and move on things that make you feel good and happy.
“Imagine if you had to eat false vegetables. How would you feel about that “
At least the arguments are getting more and more creative 😂 😂
Keep fighting for all of us Ed
This isn't a debate: this is just Ed lecturing a bunch of rude man-children
Yes, it was like trying to have a sensible conversation with ignorant school kids.
I agree, they are very uneducated about nutrition... It only needs one man that knows this subject to destroy his biased weak arguments...
For real. Calmly destroyed them on every single point. What a disgrace these people are.
This guy ed is a con artist. Disgusting liar. Shame!
He said "I know you're quite a fan of the vegan sausages" 😂 I screamed. 💀
I love that he managed to throw that in 😂😂❤❤
God that protein man is so incredibly ignorant and rude.
You need to eat a million plants for protein… 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Ed is the most informed person from all these people and they don’t stand a chance.
"I would prefer not to." That's the only response needed.
Nobody in that panel stood a chance against Ed
Listening to these ignorant people kills my brain cells.I commend you Ed on keeping your composure and educating them.
Ed, I love your channel and I regularly watch your clips which always reaffirm my decision to go vegan - something I’ve managed (where possible) since 2012. What I’d love to suggest is that you also consider recommending flax seed oil / hemp seed oil to the diet when people ‘challenge’ you on supplementation. B12 is often touted as the only supplement required but we should all consider taking a daily teaspoon of one of either of these omega rich oils with our protein shakes / porridge / breakfast cereals. This regime was recommended to me by a nutritionist in Finland when I lived there in 2016 on a vegan diet. Dr Michael Greger also recommends regular plant based omega 3, 6 and 9 intake. More than 1 teaspoon of the oil is not advised though as it can have an anticoagulant effect, making blood clotting difficult. Hemp seed oil is also very good at reducing blood pressure so anyone with already low BP should consult their doctor before taking it.
You have such a wide audience I thought I’d share this with you.
Keep up the passioned work.
Nicely debated Ed, but the correct expression is "moot point" not "mute point". And "moot point" can mean "debatable" as well as "irrelevant". Moots were the names for assemblies in mediaeval Britain.
Ed constantly displays the embodiment of calm. Love the content.
This exact quality in Ed is why I've added him to my team of helpers in EMDR therapy 🥲
Wow, Mike Parry was so energetic when he opened his mouth, I thought he was going to come up with some groundbreaking argument against veganism. And after hours of research, Mike came on the show to attack veganism with "Protein Tho'". Nice one, Mike! Never heard of that one before.
That big fella seems to be getting ample protein; maybe a bit too much.
He was on Jeremy Vine show and was given two sausage sandwiches to taste. He said the first one was really horrible but the second one was really nice and meaty. But they were both vegan😅
Tbh he checkmated Ed with the “what if I made you eat a fake cabbage” argument
@@Pwnagemerchantwell, not necessarily, right? No one is forcing anyone to eat meat substitutes. It's simply an option for those that want that similar taste while giving mercy to the animals. If we learned cabbage was equally detrimental to animals/health/the planet, I'd guess Ed would choose the alternative cabbage too. It's a thought provoking angle though!
@@callacretney3079 sorry I guess my sarcasm didn't translate into the comment 😅
The way you calmly kept on point , civil and used facts to get your point across , as well not being afraid to add some humour was brilliant. You completely neutralized the counter arguments , and in the end the host just has to acknowledge how well you had spoken 👍
That was painful, but well done! Man, some people just can't seem to think rationally...
Kudos to Ed for the manner in which he calmy rips their points to shreds. His co-panelists are great examples of how bad arguments harm your cause
Calm or not , he is peddling terrible advice.
I'm stunned by the collective ignorance of the panellists. Such tired old fallacious arguments.
@@happyapple4269Are you commenting as a representative of a dietetic association?
Well done ED 🎉 giving a voice to the billions of animals abused daily
❤👏 absolutely
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
wow... I'm tired just watching this! You're argumentative skills are amazing! Thank you! And congratulations!
Ed is a modern hero with his patience and pointed arguments during discussions. I hope to bring much of his style and demeanor to my own activism.
Geezus man. Ed is basically arguing with 3 children. 🤦
Why’s it like arguing with children? Because they refuse to eat the vegan crap you people eat?
@@JD365-ls5cw fruit, veggies, legumes are crap? 🤷
@@themoviesnob9513 yes they are. Meat is what makes them tolerable. Apart from fruits
@@JD365-ls5cw wow, it seems I get to speak to a child as well. 😀
@@themoviesnob9513 so you think people who don’t eat the way you want them are children huh? Typical vegan. No wonder most people hate you people
Ed, you are a media master, speaking eloquently and addressing multiple points while staying resolutely on message. Thank you.
Can’t wait to meet him at Vegan camp out this year ❤