Vegan debates "screaming tomatoes" on live TV
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#GBNews #Woke
Believe it or not but this wasn’t an April Fool’s Joke. It says a lot that I’m more likely to be asked to debate whether or not plants feel pain than the fact that animals do actually feel pain. Why do we care about tomatoes making noises through releasing gas but not animals screaming because they’re actually suffering?
They want a fluff story, but I think you handled it well.
Very well said Ed. And great job shifting the conversation over to that within seconds ❤️
This is the level of "debate" we can have because they simply don't care, they brought you there to say "well, see this vegan activist and the hypocrisy" not because they even cared in the first place If tomatoes "scream".
The premiss of tomatoes screaming is a bunch of smart-assed BS.
Vegan choices are sane and healthy, listen to Ed or suffer the consequences you meat eating insensitive mind controlled sheets.
@@germscamacho8362 No. I think GB are letting Ed talk. Better than some.
Pre-vegan: "Vegans need to stop anthropomorphizing animals!"
Same person: "Tomatoes scream."
Exactly!!
Aaaaaghdhhdjdjdjdkkdkf nailed it
Lol 😂
Almost sounds like Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about "plant aliens" 😂😂
Vocalising Vegetation - video amator editing of a brocoli drowning sideway and screaming
*close lid of boiling water "no one gonna hear you scream now brocoli"
I think it's funny how Ed so quickly defused the initial "gotcha", and then proceeded to take over the interview from that point on.
nobody took over the interview it was a pretty well back and forth discussion..
@@washedotter5374t was pretty fair , which is rare in tv land .
It was a master class
*Ed laying down facts and the producers realise he knows his stuff*
"Oh sorry our time is up, we have to goooo!"
This.., his card ran out of moronic questions
It’s weird bc the producers or whoever brought him on must have watched his content and known that Ed knows his shit
@@stoplisteningtothestatic7078 it's not weird, they really were just out of time lol
Ed, How are you able to keep a straight face while debating this topic 😂😂
That's an art for its self
I can too... whenever I discuss with people on these topics, I'm usually very serious, though for some comparisons, I do release a light chuckle and quickly shoot them down with science.
because he is " The Vegan Jesus " !
That man's so tired of everyone's bull$Ηit 😂😭😂
😂
I really enjoyed the host tbh, specially him admitting to being an hypocrite himself and being self aware, that's how I started the path to becoming vegan
While I agree with some of these behaviours being good, he did also "check to make sure the tomatoes there wouldn't be offensive." Clearly being sensationalist.
@@erynfee4856 I cringed at that, but it was also pretty funny tbh
@@erynfee4856 Yeah I assumed he was being hyperbolic to mock vegans, but then he expressed respect and sincerity for the entire remainder of the interview, so I'm wondering if the start was just genuine (albeit shocking) ignorance regarding veganism.
Came to the comments for this- I found him quite impressive, honestly. I thought he was honest, reasonable, and speaking in good faith, aspects which are often missing from such interactions.
Edit: especially the bit about early years! He could have posed that as an argument, but I think rather he posed it as a discussion point; he raised a concern he had and was open to new information and being wrong, admitting that perhaps he doesn't know enough about the topic to know the answer.
@@bambino9235 He comes off looking good because he's not a complete wanker like Piers Morgan.
I'm a Biologist and Science Educator and was immediately pissed when I started seeing the headlines. You could tell that no one was actually reading the study and only falling into the antiveganist's trap. Thank you Ed for being obviously well-read and representing intelligent and well-reasoned veganism.
If you need any fresh sperms for your laboratory, I can provide samples most days 😊
Same here, biologist (botanist) and educator, and it has made my blood boil as well. But I am also very annoyed with the authors of the study. I heard a lead author interviewed on NPR and they did not once clarify that the sounds may hold no communicative purpose. They actually suggested several hypotheses on communicative purpose. I think the authors are sorta just enjoying the mass media attention, and not clarifying the inaccuracies. Unethical IMHO.
@@glenmorrison8080 no I’m providing dr Reginald with sperm now.
I’m still able to provide more if he needs it. I’m free at weekends but he doesn’t want it then.
I don’t need any from you
What biologist are you who justified killing plants ?
@@glenmorrison8080 What biologist are you who justified killing plants ?
This was a rare example of two people having a respectful discussion. A triumph for free speech. Both guys seemed really decent types. We need more of this. I am now considering veganism.
I always imagine that someone who wrote such cringe comment must be definitely mentaly disabled
These are British people, Americans are insane.
Except the reporter wanted to start shit and be silly with the tomato gag at the start, but soon realised ed is well tempered and knew he would look like an idiot if he kept trying to make jokes
I watched a fascinating video the other day that really made me re-think how veganism is portrayed by most. We all think "Oh, instead of killing the cow I will just eat tomatoes" but the farmer in the video explained that in order to grow mass fields of one crop, you MUST KILL every insect/small animal that will attack your crop. Gophers, ground kitties, birds, mice/rats, foxes, ANY ANIMAL that poses a threat to that crop must be exterminated... Which defeats the idea of 'not killing for food'.
@@austinrb6301 But it isnt really a joke. There is Fruitarianism which consist of the belief to not kill anything, not even plants.
I just read the scientific paper on this. Plants are still not sentient or feel pain. Great work as always, Ed.
Are you ABSOLUTELY certain of that? 🤨
Why read the paper when you can make up a sensationalist headline that misrepresents what the science actually says 🙄
@ReverendDr.Thomas Based on the current scientific data, I am sure, yes. I can't be "ABSOLUTELY" sure about anything. If it turns out they are sentient and feel pain. Then, my food choices as a vegan are still better than the latter.
Dr Cleve Backster’s research is very helpful with this topic
@@Gaming_Vegan_Ape,
in your own words, define “SENTIENCE”. ☝️🤔☝️
I love how the title giving tomatoe debate was just:
"Scientists found out that tomatoes scream"
"Actually no."
"Alright, next topic"
😂
Tbh it was probably just an introduction to have the conversation about veganism
Exactly, Ed did that so well. But to the host's credit, he didn't pull a Tucker Carlson and actually let Ed speak. A wonderfully short and efficacious interview that does wonders for the vegan movement!
@@DrReginaldFinleySr Have you ever watched Tucker Carlson? I'd like to know just one example where he has invited on a guest, then not let them speak? I'm not a fan of Tucker, I'm just not a liar.
Huge props to the host on this one, he seems to allow others the platform to speak and handles himself with dignity and self-humility
well...he asks questions that seem genuinely critical...gets debunked...and jumps to the next one as if nothing happened...yeah i get it..time restrictions and what not...if anything props to the show for giving Ed a stage
@@duiaaaa idk, still feels kind of weird that they apparently don't have anything more interesting than screaming tomatoes to talk about but still not more than 5 minutes to hear ed speak
If this Piers Morgan could read he'd be really upset
@@duiaaaa you are right about him jumping arguments but I thinks is kind of fair since it's better that audiences listen to multiple arguments getting debunked than just one or two. However, I would really wish to see him rationalize it and responding, that's why Ed makes the college debates, this is just the National TV format, nothing less.
Honestly, kudos to the interviewer for being open and not attacking you, as most do. He was willing to listen, I just wish they didn’t cut your air time 😂 good job Ed
The interviewer was waiting for that moment so he could save himself the embarrassment. 🤣
@@somedudeinatunnel3102
oh heII yeah it's _part of it_
@@somedudeinatunnel3102 Or, hear me out - he was genuinely upset he couldn't continue an interesting conversation.
Food for thought.
@@Skyflairl2p I think it was this.
He DID, however, refuse to acknowledge Ed's legitimate points, in his eagerness to skate sideways to new non-valid reasonings, which is both dishonest behavior and impolite, at best.
I love how Ed was invited to be interviewed and started interviewing the host instead. What a power move 😂
just shows the calibre of gb news anchors doesn't it
That guy had no idea what he was walking into.
Hahah I cackled. Ed's reasoned and calm responses to the same old arguments was SO satisfying to watch.
Oh yes it saved so many animals 😂😂
The host just had to say:
„Just look at you, Ed. You look sick. And not the good kind of sick, just sick.
I don‘t want to look like a hungry c-u-c-k, who got his life sucked off from a vampire.
And think about all the mentally ill vegans, that are apparently ill because of their vegan lifestyle.
I just don‘t want to have depression, because I haven‘t eaten a steak in years.
But I appreciate your bravery.
Greetings to your wife and my children.“
Gotta credit the host for conducting an actual interview by allowing Ed to answer the questions and even ask a few himself. He did his job as did Ed. Well done!
Seriously! I love that the host didn't take anything personally and was honest in his answers.
Yes, really refreshing to see two people who disagree with each other having a respectful discussion, rather than just attacking and talking past each other.
Giving credit for the bare minimum in a discussion, lmao
his honesty after delivering the pitch he was handed was rather refreshing
@@fluffplush the bare minimum is rather rare these days
Good interview. I'm not currently vegan or vegetarian, but your calm and clear reasoning has certainly made me consider it more seriously.
my exact thoughts two years ago. I am now a vegan and srsly it is the best decision i have ever made and it is so ridiculously easy :D
Do it, the struggle is all in your head.
The only thing I regret is not doing it sooner. I went vegan 7 years ago and feel like I've been aging backwards ever since.
Yes, the idea that vegans are wide-eyed extremists is false. It makes a lot of sense for ethical, environmental and health reasons.
Same here. We can make big changes without having to quit meat and dairy. Obviously, it would be preferable, but who knows where those changes might take us.
Ed was on fire! We are so lucky to have him as one of the strongest advocates in the vegan community.
In a world where you can be anything, be kind.
I love this. The best part is, it's free!
This is the way.
I thought this was gonna read….
“In a world where you can be anything, be Ed.”
If you live in a fairytale world you can be, pain, suffering and violence is part of life deal with it.
@@bluemeister22 It’s true that violence and suffering is rife throughout the world, but that doesn’t mean we have to intentionally contribute to it. I believe you’re capable of doing incredible good if you decide that’s what you want to do, don’t underestimate the positive impact you can have, and don’t allow the corruption of the world to prevent you from being the wonderful human you’re capable of being ☺️✌🏻
Tbf to GBN news, this is one of the most respectful discussions on veganism in the mainstream media. And well done Ed for speaking sense 🙏
I agree, I was pleasantly surprised by this
@@gurrutvurstug8779 me too! i was prepared on getting frustrated lol😂
This was because Ed caught him off guard.
@@joshuataylor3550 Are you claiming that if he wasn't caught off guard, that the interviewer would have been able to refute Ed's points?
Well said my friend, I second that completely. Contrary to all other media outlets, GBN is always the most respectful platform for actual dialogue and discussion - they allow anyone on and allow anyone to speak, and they will gladly give you your platform and question it with good faith. It's a shame they're just painted as a right-wing propaganda arm because what they really are is an anti-establishment channel just wanting to give dissenting views a chance in the spotlight. It doesn't matter if they're more popular with right wing activists, because at the end of the day, they still gladly welcome people like George Galloway or in this case, Ed, to have their time to shine and offer their take. On top of all this, they are even willing to admit when they're wrong in a debate, and by far host the most open-minded speakers I've seen on a news channel. For these merits, I commend them.
Big respect to the interviewer! He was very polite and took Ed’s questions seriously. Wish we had more conversations like this!
The absolute patience that Ed has is incredible.
exactly what i was thinking, he is a pure legend
The host admitting his hypocrisy openly is a very positive sign, normally if someone’s willing to do that, they’re going to be more open to changing their behaviours. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly and articulately you respond perfectly to people’s questions Ed!
they can also be the worst because he's just content with being a hypocrite. There's no next step, no self realisation, no moral values. He's totally comfortable with the contradiction.
I'm not si sure. I think that most people acknowledge their failings, including hypocrisy, as being (as they are) decidedly human traits. Even as a vegan, I acknowledge where my ethics and morality give way to hypocrisy. We all weigh up our morals against our personal convenience, and in many cases the morals lose out. In the case of the general public, ethics doesn't stand a chance against bacon :(
@@TK-jump Exactly, just think about how we would react to that behavior if it were in another domain. _"I'm such a hypocrite, I know I'm not supposed to rape, but you know, I just enjoy sex so much. I let someone else kidnap and pin that person down, I just want to fuck them."_
@@TK-jump so you think you are morally superior to every non vegan??
@@abhisheknarayana1224 he didn't say that bro
This Moderator was worlds better than most Hosts Ed talked to before. He really presented great opportunities for Ed to debunk misconceptions without the average viewer realising!
Worthless ed debunked nothing.
The moderator wasn't very qualified on the subject though.
1. Nutrition. Vegans miss out on EPA and DHA omega 3s as one of many examples.
2. To hit back on Eds soy argument. The parts of Soy which are fed to animals are the husks and parts which are not fit for human consumption, feeding animals the parts of plants we don't eat is increasing the efficiency of the plants we grow, and thus we get more calories out of the plants we grow.
@@ctb1977 you first point is wrong EPA and DHA can be converted from ALA and thats can be obtained from Linseed oil, hemp oil, walnut oil, chia seeds for example
@@Luckvieh not really, less than 1% of ALA can be converted to EPA and DHA
Yeah it shocked me how much I like the guy when I put gb news on as a joke
I absolutely love that you naturally controlled that discussion from the idea of plants suffering to the more real discussion of animals real suffering.
Good point!
you are literally the best vegan speaker in the world - we need you on TV more!!!
Such a short amount of time but so worth it due to the sheer volume of misinfo you were able to dispel. Good job 🌱
Them: "Vegans are so dramatic"
Also them:
them ; i can humor about my cruelty and it give me bonus point in debate for being "atrocious moraly but i made a joke right?" bacon tho haha im egoist like everyone right? we understand each other! im lazy and fat with my grill cheese.. who want a vegan grill cheese!?!? lol
Vegan meat!! Lol!! They have to bring equivalent of real meat to compete with meat!! Poor vegan!! Must be fooling their hay filled brains 🧠
A lot vegans seem to be horrible people. You're a great example of that. Get your head out of your *ss.
@@MassMultiplayer sending you a hug.❤ I know that hypocrisy is painful sometimes😂
@@MassMultiplayerSo everyone who eats meat are unhealthy fat and lazy?
That never happens on any vegan diet?
I’m not a vegan (yet) but honestly Earthling Ed just amazes me and makes me question everything. 10/10. Keep fighting the good fight. Us hypocrites will learn one day.
He made me go vegan almost 3 years ago.
no time like the present friend. My only regret is not doing it decades earlier.
Same I spent years as a vegetarian "considering" veganism when all I really needed to do was just take the plunge and I would have figured things out then just as I had figured things out when I actually decided. And I did it because of the most trivial reason too, I was visiting my vegan girlfriend and I just didn't want to disappoint her, so I figured why not for this weekend I'll be vegan not eat any milk cheese or egg (since I was already vegetarian), and then found out well hey that was easy, maybe I should just continue it. Maybe I'll eat some cheese if I feel like it every now and then but lets take this for a test drive! And what do you know I never got the cravings because I balanced my diet really well with all the flavors I needed! So I retroactively called that moment when I went vegan even though in the moment and time I definitely didn't know or mark it as *the turning point* hahaha. So You just need a trivial reason to do it, and then figure out how to maintain it well and go from there! What do you have to lose? :D
This, ladies and gentleman, is how people should and do interact in real life. Respect, honesty and genuine debate over a topic. I love this so much. Modern media: TAKE NOTES
Again your patience is tested to an absurd degree, and again you passed with flying colors. Well done Ed
for the animals!
When you discuss with people on a regular basis about these things, you develop patience... especially when you're trying to convey actual scientific facts to people at large.
People seldom listen to humans who are yelling.
@@loganbrown9845 yes let’s eat them all!!
@@abhisheknarayana1224 are you ok?
@@Vamusika Why? Did I say something wrong?
The news reader did a fantastic job and covered all the greatest hits in just 5 minutes. He even had time for the screaming tomatoes.
The patience of Ed is out of this world.
Because he knows he's right haha
Ed, your composure, respect and courtesy never cease to impress me. You are my role model when I speak out against animal and Earth exploitation. 🙏💕
Ed was masterful as always, but I want to share some rare praise for the interviewer, who didn't make excuses, and was honest and good-faith and gave Ed plenty of time to answer and didn't talk over him. How an interview should be conducted. Wish they had more time.
Honestly I think this type of interviews might actually do quite well for the vegan community. Of course the starting point of having to argue the difference between the popping of air pockets in the tomato and the screams of pigs isn't great, but following it up with a bunch of great points for switching to a plant based diet could make a difference to the people who clicked on the clip expecting a vegan to be crushed by the interviewer
@@FjodorvS Couldn't agree more.
Least convincing "oh are we out of time" I've ever seen 😂
"Turn it off! The meat sponsors are angry!"
Right?! Lol! 😂😂
hahahaha
Ed, you are an incredible inspiration, I am 29 and have never had a bigger role model than you. Thanks.
The fact that this segment was delibrately set up to belittle a vegan on live television about "offending you for plucking a tomato in front of you" and only providing 5 minutes to talk is dissapointing.
But its so satisfying to see Socratic Ed be the one up there, calmy bringing truth and reality to light, and doing so much with what little time he was given 👏👏👏
What an inspiration 💪
What a masterclass of pure calm reasoning and logic in face of a cocky provocative attitude. Well done, much to learn here
While I agree Ed came off as well spoken and calm, I didn't see a "cocky provocative attitude" from the interviewer. The only questionable thing with regard to attitude was the part about whether or not the tomatoes on the table was offensive (which with good will could be interpreted as an attempt at humor.) Overall it felt like a decent, overall receptive, interviewer doing his job presenting typical opposing views.
The interviewer was actually pretty respectful of Ed. Of course He spouted the usual easily refuted mainstream nonsense though.
@@hummushero9428 Can you imagine if they got the moronic Dan Wooton to do the interview?
Honestly, out of all the U.K. presenters this host was one of the least provocative or nefarious.
What a masterclass of pure homosexuality by you
Presenter: "but is vegan ok for children"
Ed: "so the evidence says that --"
Presenter: "--avocados?"
You are such a fantastic communicator Ed. Great job. I love how this interview got turned around so subtly and even the presenter said they enjoyed it. This is the way to get people engaged … I just wish that I had your patience!!! 👍🙏
I really like how this conversation was not belittling toward each person. This is open and constructive communication that people can walk away from and actually internalize. Well done to the both of you!
True
I just wish someone brought up the fact that a vegan diet is in fact more expensive then a normal diet, most people who are vegan and can’t afford it almost certainly always make themselves sick, there’s also people out there that don’t educate themselves on a sustainable vegan diet and also make themselves sick, as someone who was for a short bit vegan in high school my parents tried to support my diet but in the end I stopped because it was a lot of money and we just couldn’t afford it, I also lost a lot of weight and struggle to this day to regain it because my body doesn’t like some food anymore, I think there are risks with any diet even the normal one that’s why we have an obesity epidemic and I think we just need more education on food in general and food needs to be cheaper.
@@Emilyprowell My meals are always less expensive than y meat eating family and friends. Lentils, beans, rice, fruit, veggies are usually always less expensive than meat and cow’s milk. Now you could live in an area that is an exception to this but in my experience the “vegan is so expensive” is usually not in mind. BUT keep in mind the animal agriculture industry is heavily subsidized, so if the meat burger is cheaper than the vegan burger that is why.
@@helenapflaum6800 facts shit is so much cheaper lmao
@@Emilyprowell I promise you that being a vegan can be cheaper than eating animal products, at least in the UK.
I love how quickly you managed to get the discussion away from screaming tomatoes. Well done Ed!
Bloody LOVE how you managed to take charge of the convo so fast that he didn't even end up pulling the stems out of the tomatoes. Which I assume was supposed to be the entire point of the segment.
Fantastic job as always
Thank you so much for raising your voice for animals! 💚🌱
I was asked today about that report by a friend and completely lost my patience. I appreciate soooo much your work and that I can send a link with your perfect explanation and prepare myself for future arguments
I’m so thankful for you and the way you so calmly and precisely are able to educate people. This was such a simple conversation that reached so many!
I can’t believe this conversation even needed to be had
We live in an Idiocracy... so all is to be expected with these dimwits.
Gbnews for you
I wonder what people who constantly try and argue with “But plants feel pain, too!” think? Is it “Animals and plants both feel pain.. let’s harm both of them!” ?? Apart from that plants do not feel pain and are not sentient, why do we still ignore the countless of INNOCENT animals that are exploited and killed every single year? Upsetting. Cherish your work, Ed! Cheers :)
I always ask them "since plants and animals are morally equivalent, should we get rid of animal cruelty laws, so that you can legally kick a puppy, or should we extend those laws to plants, so that it would be illegal to kick a turnip?"
I reckon it's because they think vegans think themselves morally superior so it's more 'haha you're not as perfect as you think you are'. That's my take anyway. But as Ed said, if we really care about plants then eating no animals would also lead to fewer plants getting eaten too.
@@anthonydude 😂 that's brilliant.
It's a method to point out the subjectivity and arbitrary nature of the sentience argument.
Glad I could answer your question.
@@anthonydude come to northern India, cut one cedar tree illegally , either you will be hanged or sentence life time in prison!!
much love and respect from Japan! I become vegan at 2008 and It was very lonely. these days we have some more vegans which is good but not enough.
You are dignified Ed , brilliant , always with the best response possible while keeping so calm ! We are so grateful for your fantastic work for the animals .
The director: “GET. HIM. OUT OF HERE!!! This vegan is too well spoken, he might actually Have an impact on people
Host: “Awww, darn it!! We’re out of time. But next time…”
this comment made me rofl. It could be indeed what happened there :))))
This is walk in the park for Ed because he always faces the same old quick to debunk "arguments"
Well done Ed, you really answered well and steered the conversation in a positive direction. Thank you 😊 🙌
Once again, you handled the conversation with the utmost Grace. I loved how the presenter stayed open to the conversation. Well done Ed
We are proud of you,Ed 😊
Why!! He just got himself embarrassed, The host said unto his face I love meat!! And there nothing you can do to make me stop that!!
@Abhishek Narayana you wouldn't get it.
@@JordanDecay Why wouldn't I? He is not making any difference at all!! If he is tell me how?
@@abhisheknarayana1224 I'm sorry but it's depressing to say that he "isn't making a difference". I know about 10 people (myself included) who has gone vegan partly because of him. Ed is being told the so called "screams" of plants which is just insane and on par with flat earth theory in braindamage, yet he stays calm and tries to be a good example of what veganism is really about. This instead of just screaming at people that they're murders like unfortunately like some vegans do. Nudging has been proven to be quite a great way of changing peoples mind yk....
@@shotcrib77v56 I have seen his videos!! How exasperated he goes on non vegans !! And Tells them murderers and animal abuser!! Who wants to hear that!! As if he is Gandhi, oh even Gandhi consumed diary!! I guess Mr. Beast also an animal abuser right?? He is also non vegan!!
I thought that was a joke the tomatoes screaming at the beginning ... But well done, you succeed to be clear, pedagogical and not judmental in 5 minutes ! that is impressive !
This Ed is so articulate, calm and cool. Such a breath of fresh air from the crazy ones.
Yes, this is how vegans can 'win' - we do have a lot of good arguments, so let them speak for themselves without getting angry.
You were superb here. Concise, persistent, and drilling down with your questioning.
A masterclass in vegan advocacy
well done 👏🏻
Unbelievable how they just cut the interview just because they ran out of excuses 😂
I genuinely think the host was getting somewhere. Although it is hard in the context in that debate took place to be open enough & acknowledge your mistakes
Sad thing production told him to interrupt the interview
😂😂
They would have been cut off from an advert break, best to end it on camera.
They literally had to stop for ads, like most shows do. At least he was polite about it.
You killed it, Ed!!!
😂 He sure did!
He doesn't believe in violence he is truly the vegan Jesus😂
Fair play to the host, honestly interested without pushing an agenda or trying to make anyone look foolish for views. Felt like a genuine conversation, great watch
You really nailed this interview, the first few seconds had me worried that you were walking into a trap, but damn. You earned a subscriber with this. 💯
Ed's execution here is impeccable. Ruthless. Not a single word wasted. You have to marvel at it....
😂😂😂😂 and yet 2.4 million big macs were sold in 24hrs alone lol go ed
@@rondarkman. you're right. Thanks for keeping us focussed on the bigger picture rather than getting bogged down in the details 🙏
Not what I was expecting from GBN, pleasantly surprised. Good job Ed
I don't think it's what Gammon Brexit News was expecting either. I don't think they'll be inviting Ed back on.
What a wonderful host! I would love to see another conversation between both of them. Maybe with more time ❤
Ed, the way you argue/debate is brilliant. Starting with a "yeah," asking the other person thoughtful questions, listening intently, and disarming them with some agreement. I see you and I appreciate you.
Ed you are amazing! Thank you for what you do 🌱🙏
Indeed, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶
The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩
Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT ban animal agriculture!
“I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”.
Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐
ruclips.net/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/видео.html
Go to the 8:15 mark.
Ed is easily the best vegan youtuber on here. I'm not vegan but I can acknowledge he is probably the most efficient.
@@MustardSkaven, you are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is arguably the foremost existential crisis.🌱
@@MustardSkaven
She ed is trans
@@rondarkman. Okay she.
Ed, you are such an incredible advocate for the cause. Your patience and ability to always ask questions helps everyone to keep an open mind instead of getting defensive. I continue to strive to be like you!
Ed handled this interview really well. The presenter tried to push him a bit but he was really good
We need an longer version of this conversation! Have him back on! 🎉🎉
Imagine being Ed and having to hear the “protein” argument over and over again and staying this calm and patient. Thank you so much for what you do Ed
I hope Ed never snaps. He might possibly then just eat the brainless carnist because they themselves have proven they are not sentient, just debunked argument repeating machines.
Yeah I heard it like 700 times. Ed has probably heard it 700 000 times.
This is a good time for it at least, because even though we all know the protein argument is silly, the average viewer of a random TV show doesn't know that.
I’m a bodybuilder which is the only reason why I eat meat as a protein source. Plant based protein is just inferior when building muscle. Once I reach my physical goals I’ll reduce my meat intake.
@@kalencwil3924 I'll translate your response from carnist to english: I have a frivolous and unhealthy goal, purely for my own enjoyment and contrary to what doctors and scientists say I insist that that gives me a reason to have sentient animals tortured and killed.
Your are Pathetic!
Ed! Bravo! You were able to ask him self-reflective questions on air! Poised, prepared, polite, and passionate. You're a voice for all of us. Thank you.
You need nutrients for all types of food crops - at some point in the food chain, manure from milking cows can be used to grow vegan friendly foods. If not you can always ask: What is the alternative? So if you have an interest in genuine carbon neutral food production - ASK: What is the alternative to animals as part of food production for complete human diets?
@@lauralee6628Compost.
Using manure from cows whose lives have been subjected to total human control and interest from birth till death isn't something that people who don't participate in unnecessary animal use are into. I *was* though, just at an animal sanctuary where the manure is given to local farmers, and that's cool because it's just a by-product of cows living peacefully. It's all about avoiding unnecessary harm.
Using cows as if they were food is not carbon neutral nor is it ethically neutral, and besides, no one needs their breast milk except their calves, who don't get it cuz we're guzzling it down. We have our own human milk, just like every other mammal has their own which is perfectly made for them until they wean. If we're fortunate enough to be participating in this dialogue, I doubt we're subsisting off of some scarcely-resourced village where a cow is inherent for survival.
There's always a kinder option, like compost or sourcing it from a local sanctuary where you could even volunteer, they certainly need the help!
@@brookie_cuqui you have NO realistic alternatives DO YOU ? the world is not safe in your hands sweetness
@@lauralee6628 Compost and sanctuaries aren't realistic? I'm not going to go deep into alternatives in a comment thread with someone writing in all caps calling me "sweetness." Respect is key in communication. You can definitely do some research to help change the violent paradigm which contributes to global warming, massive waste, and suffering. The paradigm we have now is unrealistic because it's not sustainable. You know you're commenting on an Earthling Ed video, yeah? He's made available a ton of resources to help clarify any query you might have.
@@brookie_cuqui if we were to put vegans in control of global food production = there will be mass starvation = what you never see is vegans pooling resources to buy land to grow the food you want every one else to eat. you want everybody else to do what you want to suit your own individual desires. get out in the real world = vegan food especially 'impossible burgers' etc is over processed + over packaged + over priced. plant based diets are the root cause of global obesity epidemic + broad range of chronic disease including type 2 diabetics. going vegan simply increases poor health because poor people cant afford the perfect human diet that at the very least MUST include eggs that can be produced without waste or harm to animals = but you will rarely see vegans do anything other than order food or order people around.
Thank you for tackling these topics Ed!
Ed that’s the best talk you’ve given - diving in with the most relevant points - you’re developing the essential killer tactics hopefully for more TV debate … please…….🌱
Concise and well formed.
Really well done ed:)
Indeed, Mr. Edward “Winters” Gaunt’s understanding of metaethics is beyond reproach, which explains why he condones the MURDER of poor, innocent humans before they have the opportunity to even see the light of day. 👶
The fact that he repeatedly asserts that “humans are animals” shows what an abject hypocrite is that MURDEROUS sinner. 😩
Furthermore, it is debatable whether Ed is truly vegan in his outlook, since he recently stated on the national television programme, GBNews, that he believes we ought NOT ban animal agriculture!
“I’m not even saying that we should ban meat, dairy and eggs right now”.
Mr. Ed Gaunt, So-called “VEGAN” activist. 😐
ruclips.net/video/Sl5GpxLXnuI/видео.html
Go to the 8:15 mark.
I think the interviewer was a pretty cool and open minded person
I highly doubt that. This is a right-wing "news" channel after all.
@@Cytronik well, despite that he seemed pretty respectful
There are many left wing presenters with a deep loathing of animals, heard it myself on lbc.
@@robzecc I think he's one of the less obnoxious presenters on that channel. There are some real wallopers on it, not that anyone watches it!
So open minded that his brains fell out while refuting Ed's facts
Nice conversation! Thanks for this, Ed :)
Good on you for reasoned, calm and well thought out answers. It's very easy to get frustrated with these kinds of conversations but I feel nobody changes their mind when they're attacked for their views.
Just when you think you've heard it all
Ed you’re such a legend for this movement. Still number one in all aspects and such a role model. Kudos
absolutely beautiful work you've done here man, professionally handled the situation and offered the best rebuttals backed by evidence, never stop what u doing bro
Smashing it as usual Ed. You are amazing!
Ed! The animals are so lucky to have you! What a clear and concise interview! You said everything that has to be said in such a small amount of time.
What animals exactly? 2.4 million big macs sold a day ed is not turning the tide on anything
This was a masterclass by Ed.
You are a warrior with your words.
Thank you for putting it more eloquently than I ever can!
Thank goodness we have you Ed, your ability to communicate in an intelligent, clear and concise manner really helps lead a viewer to understand their own moral hypocrisy.
What a rushed interview but amazing how fast Ed can deliver the arguments.
How is this newscaster not remotely embarrassed to discuss plant suffering seriously?
Because he thought he had a gotcha, realized pretty quickly that wasn't the case
You’re so calm - love your manner. ❤
Would love to see more interviews conducted this way, well done!
omnivores discovering gas physics for the first time:
Just started reading your book yesterday. Producers told him to cut the conversation before you exposed more than they were ready for - awesome job Ed!
Props to this presenter for being open about his own hypocrisy and for actually listening to Ed.
Thank you for being so level headed, informed, and well spoken. Your praxis is gorgeous as hell.
My goal in life is to be able to debate any subject with the level of calm and decorum that Ed debates veganism against staunch meat-eaters
Earthling Ed ,YOU make me PROUD to be VEGAN !
Thank you for everything you are doing for the Animals !
2.4 million big macs sold a day ed does nothing
Not doing anything for animals around 5-10 billion animals die per year when tractors and other vehicles run over animals when cutting crops
@@benlee3071 Yet most of the crops are used for animal feed, and more than 36 times more land is used for crops to feed livestock.. Interesting..
you don't mind all the animals getting killed getting your vegan diet to the shops for you to buy then?
@@James_36 What does this even mean?
Excellent Ed, you took control of the conversation. Thank you for all you're doing for the animals!
This was a freaking great interview, I'm impressed on the host side too, hah.
I would literally go speachless, what an absurd claim
consciousness/Consciousness:
“that which knows”, or “the state of being aware”, from the Latin prefix “con” (with), the stem “scire” (to know) and the suffix “osus” (characterized by). To put it succinctly, consciousness is the SUBJECTIVE component in any subject-object relational dynamic. The concept of consciousness is best understood in comparison with the notion of sentience. Cf. “sentience”.
As far as biologists can ascertain, the simplest organisms (single-celled microbes) possess an exceedingly-primitive form of sentience, since their life-cycle revolves around adjusting to their environment, metabolizing, and reproducing via binary fission, all of which indicates a sensory perception of their environment (e.g. temperature, acidity, energy sources and the presence of oxygen, nitrogen, minerals, and water). More complex organisms, such as plants, have acquired a far greater degree of sentience, since they can react to the light of the sun, to insects crawling on their leaves (in the case of carnivorous plants), excrete certain chemicals and/or emit ultrasonic waves when being cut. At this point it is imperative to consult the entry “sentience” in the Glossary of this Holy Scripture.
According to this premise, the simplest forms of animal life possess sentience, but no noticeable semblance of true consciousness. As a general rule, those animals that have at least three or four senses, combined with a simple brain, possess a mind but lack an intellect. Higher animals (notably mammals) have varying levels of intelligence but only humans have a false-ego (sense of self). Thus, human consciousness is constituted of the three components: the mind, the intellect, and the pseudo-ego (refer to Ch. 05).
There is a rather strong correlation between brain complexity and level of consciousness, explaining why humans alone are capable of self-awareness. In this case, “self-awareness” is not to be confused with “self-recognition”, which is a related but quite distinct phenomenon, found also in several species of non-human animals, in which an animal is able to recognize itself in a mirror or some other reflective surface. “Self-awareness” refers to the experience where a human over the age of approximately three years is consciousness of the fact that he or she knows (that is, aware) that he or she is aware. Obviously, in the case of a child, he or she may need to be prompted in order to first be acquainted with this understanding. For example an adult could ask the child:
“Do you know that you have a toy car?” “Yes!” “And do you KNOW that you know you have a toy car?” “Umm...I think so...yes!”.
In contemporary spiritual circles (as well as in several places within this book), the capitalized form of the word usually, if not always, refers to Universal Consciousness, that is, an Awareness of awareness (otherwise known as The Ground of All Being, et altri).
sentience:
the capacity to experience feelings or sensations, as distinguished from perceptions and cognition. The word was first coined by philosophers in the 1630’s for the concept of an ability to feel, derived from Latin “sentientem” (a feeling), in order to distinguish it from the ability to think/reason. Therefore, sentience ought not be confused with consciousness, though the two are closely related.
As far as biologists can ascertain, the simplest organisms (single-celled microbes) possess an exceedingly-primitive form of sentience, since their life-cycle revolves around adjusting to their environment, metabolizing, and reproducing via binary fission, all of which indicates a sensory perception of their environment (e.g. temperature, acidity, energy sources and the presence of oxygen, nitrogen, minerals, and water). More complex organisms, such as plants, have acquired a far greater degree of sentience, since they can react to the light of the sun, to insects crawling on their leaves (in the case of carnivorous plants), excrete certain chemicals and/or emit ultrasonic waves when being cut. Perhaps the most strikingly-obvious phenomenon that demonstrates plant sentience is the way in which vines SENSE the presence of external structures, using such formations to support their stems and tendrils whilst growing.
In animal life, there are up to five sensory organs that are able to detect external stimulants or percepts.
ADDITIONALLY, many forms of metazoans have acquired a degree of consciousness, in which a subject-object polarity is established.
Therefore, when carnists claim that “plants have feelings too” upon being confronted with vegan ideology, they may be correct (at least in a rather diffuse sense of the term “feelings”), so the most logical reason for being vegan is not because plants are completely without sentience, but simply due to the fact that humans are an herbivorous species. If Homo sapiens were naturally omnivores or carnivores, then no sane person would condone veganism. In summary, all forms of organic life are, by definition, sentient, yet TRUE consciousness is found in those animal species that have a certain level of intelligence (that is, as a general rule, vertebrates, though there are a couple of notable exceptions to this general rule). Cf. “consciousness/Consciousness” and “carnist” in this Glossary.
Well to his credit, he does a better job at listening than Piers Morgan ever will.
this was handled beautifully, well done man wish I could stay that focused and level headed in a situation like this
That was really cool , honestly a super laid back debate