Hey Arthur! Just wanted to say that you are 100% deserving of that spot at Sony Camera Camp - all of your videos are informative, thoughtful, and entertaining. I know I am not speaking only for myself when I say that your channel has played a big part in providing us Sony enthusiasts with a lot of thought provoking content, and I trust your reviews when I am looking at buying new gear myself. Keep it up man!
Yes, I saw the title of this video and I wasn't going to watch it because I already knew about the ZV-E1, but I saw your name under it and that immediately changed my mind, because your videos are high quality and insightful.
I recently upgraded from the Sony A6500 to the Sony A7IV after 6+ years. The faster processor, better color science, and faster auto focus is amazing IMO. Not to mention the flip out screen, better menu system, two SD card shots, and 10 bit video. Well worth the update.
I'm with you in almost every point but the screen. Wish it had the a7rv screen. I still have my a6500 and surprisingly it feels better both in build quality and ergonomic, that's the only drawback.
Well I came from similar point but in the middle I buyed a7iii I'm so happy with a7iv but I'm a bit jealous with that new camera that have 4k 60 without crop but it not have joystick dials or buttons more mxp for photography and the most important no mechanical shutter like a7iv even don't have evf I can't consider for profesional work because I don't have the time to choose the options in the screen .
Agreed. I film wildlife and travels in Africa, so no EVF, no purchase. Overheating issues, no purchase. The camera is unusable. But looking forward to these features being tested in this consumer level model and trickled 'down' to the higher end cameras....
@@maruwaanmoses I'm legitimately thinking about the Canon R6ii. I was considering the R8 for its size and compactness but the lack of IBIS and low battery life sucks.
@@maruwaanmoses that was actually on the top of my list for awhile but the lack of AF at 120fps+ sucks 😩 I need *some* reliable AF to capture cinema 🤣 I'm realistically still considering it though
I am right there with you. I am thinking it is a backup to a backup. Do I really need the a7siii, a7iv, and the zv-e1? Probably not. I would like the smaller form factor for just grabbing a camera for a fun day out with the family but $2200 might be the deal breaker for me. Don't get me wrong, I think the price is justified but for what I would use it for, I would feel I overpaid.
Arthur, your channel is great and your spot was earned. I switched from Panasonic LUMIX to Sony because of you and totally no regrets. I probably paid for your ticket to Sony with all the Sony gear I bought based on your reviews. :-) I am enjoying photography so much more than I have in many years thanks to the A6100 and lens, as well as the A7C. My family has noticed the difference in image and picture quality since my Sony conversion.
We ordered this camera 📸 with the intent of doing interviews and vlogs while creating educational videos for teachers and families. Looking forward to receiving it and trying it out. Will a faster memory card help with overheating issues. We are in Florida ☀️
great video man. while i am frustrated about sonys lack of support with firmware, this new camera doesn’t make me upset at all as an A7S owner. as a full time freelancer using the A7S weekly for client work, it is arguably the greatest and most reliable machine i’ve ever used. id trust it to capture anything without failing and i still get excited when i use it. if i were primarily a vlogger/content creator it’d definitely be different though. this new camera does get me excited for the future. gotta be some huge stuff in store for the future full frame flagships
Quick fact check: the larger pixels don't have less noise just because they're larger. Smaller pixels technically have more noise but it's less visible because the pixels are smaller. HOWEVER if you are shooting 4k video and only using a small number of the pixels on your high resolution sensor, that is no longer true. So an 8 mp camera has the best low light for 4k video, if we're not considering downsampling. Also, the larger pixels make it easier to put electronics in the sensor, and this is a huge thing for the A7SIII and ZV-E1 because that sensor has a dual native ISO, which makes very high ISOs less noisy by a large amount. So yes, the A7SIII has the best low light performance in video, but not just because it is low resolution. It's because of the dual native ISO and because it actually uses most of the sensor area.
I just published a video yesterday and share your outlook - it's a great B/C cam for existing Sony users, but it won't attract many new users at that high price point.
One minor thing... the difference for a 12 megapixel and a 33 megapixel sensor of the same size in low light is going to be negligible (given they are using the same technology) It is true that the larger pixels will individually pick up more light than the smaller pixels, but, the smaller pixels will also contribute less noise compared to a single larger pixel (give the noise to signal ratio is the same for the sensors, which should be very close if they are from the same generation). If we pixel-peep and zoom in where the smaller pixels are shown at the same size on the screen as the larger pixels, the image with the higher resolution sensor is going to look noisier just like how a smaller sensor tend to have more noise than larger ones. But when looking at the image as a whole, the smaller pixels will also take up less space, contributing less actual noise to the overall image. But yea... there is certainly truth behind a single larger pixels absorbing more light than a single smaller pixel, though it may not actually lead to better low light performance in the end image. As always though, thanks for the thoughtful video, looking forward to your review 👍... and hope that $1,000 dream camera will exist one day... hopefully
@@cjenkins79 I think you missed the point in the video you sent. Higher megapixel have better image quality in those examples because they have higher resolution. The point of the video is to show low megapixel doesn't "gather more light" as the overall sensor size is the same Of course the higher resolution sensor looks better in those comparisons when cropped in, just like how it would in any situations, normal or low light. No one is ever going to argue that higher resolution is gonna have more detail cropped in. But that is not the topic here. Rather than saying "Higher megapixel cameras do better in low light", it's more accurate to say "Higher megapixel cameras are better", but again, that have nothing to do with light gathering, but with pixel density. But since we are specifically referring to light gathering in low light, just as the rain bucket analogy from that video you sent, there is no difference.
Oh darn, would've loved to have networked with you while I was there! Also not apart of the 100 top so that was interesting of an experience, but I'm glad everyone is so friendly
I dream your dream. I can give up the dual-slot, the full HDMI port, the 4k 120 etc. But the other features make normal video/photo so much better. This is a great camera, but I will wait for the APS-C flagship that comes with the AI features. I don't need ZV-E1, I need a7000 that can take photos, too.
I appreciate your thoughtful, sober approach to this camera. While I am wary of the compromises this camera makes, I still ordered one. I'm a Sony full-frame still photographer with a pretty full line-up of lenses. Just started film school, so this camera should carry me through my education, and I'll get the next gen FX-3 when I graduate. This camera might make a good holdover camera for a lot of students out there, given its ridiculous value proposition.
Meanwhile everyone is watching videos on their phone and they can't tell the difference from an iPhone to a FF camera. Also I prefer Super 35 sensor for shooting videos. FF is good for pictures. However not at 12mpx. Anyways the FX30 is way better for filming.
So is the a7c still 80% as good for video as this new camera? I do direct to camera toy car news and product reviews and i have studio lights. I deliver in 1080 only. I could use a third stills body. I am sure when the new a7cII is released, used a7c's will drop in value online to around 1,000 for a nice, used body. So at twice the price, is the new ZV-E1 twice the camera as an a7c for video? thanks-Dave K
nice review! glad you got to go to camera camp! my feelings also about the camera, tempted but not really for me, i'm primarily still and over heating in sunny CA will be an issue. 4k 120 will be an issue with heat.
Sony should release a true small, lightweight and affordable wide prime lens! With that kind of 30% crop of dynamic mode it should be 14 or 15mm 2.0 or 2.8. I know there is a G Master 14mm 1.8 but it is too bigz heavy and expensive. Take a look at the Sony APSC 11mm and made it similar for fullframe. And maybe in the future that dunamic mode crop could be less intrusive.
@@Donbros I was taking photos with a Nikon 20mm 1.8 for years and it was amazing. Bur for vlogs with that dynamic mode cropping 30% it's not like a 20mm anymore. So I agree with you. And the great part of vloging is to move around instrad of beeing stucked with a boring background.
Thank you for a view from interesting perspective. I own A7III and a6600 with a bunch of lenses and accessories, and always look carefully when a new body is announced. But still never felt the urge to invest in upgrading the body yet. Even though I feel like shifting more from a photography towards videography, and all of the restrictions of my camera bodies bug me: poor image stabilization that's not enough for handheld video, 8-bit with worse color science, terrible rolling shutter especially in 4k, 4k30 (and 25) instead of 4k120 (and 100), lack of autofocus features in video - like animal autofocus, and so on. But still, I feel like investing in new accessories and glass is more rewarding than hunting for a new body. Today GoPro still feels like a better option for doing handheld video stuff like vlogs for me, it's body is lighter and more durable, it even can shoot underwater without special box. I think maybe Sony are trying to get GoPro or even smartphone market share with its EV series, but it still feels like they are still haven't figured it out, they're working on it but haven't made their best option yet. Like A7III was when it was new.
Im not considering buying Sony ZV E1 , or any other camera , i had Canon 50D , then 5D , then 6D , then i saw that i use 5D more , so i found my camera for stills , for Movies , if its important 6D will do .
Great review as always Arthur..... I think it's an awesome new camera from Sony, I already have the A7sIII. At this point I can't really see myself getting one, but if I did I'd sell the A7sIII. As I only use my gear as a hobby not for work, If I was using it for work then that's a different story. Ppl complain oh, oh I just paid out for a A7sIII or what another flagship camera 3 months ago. Things progress at a fast pace, no use buying a $70,000 car and by next year it's worth $55,000. Just how it goes....... Only issue I have with Sony is they are very slow to give firmware updates. Unlike Lumix and anything DJI always bringing out updates. Anyway Arthur thanx for sharing bro. 👍
Good perspective. Although I do think for those newer cameras that can be updated via firmware, they should be. Its like if a car company released a car and abandoned it completely the next year and never did recalls or servicing for it.
Nice video, I always like to see your videos really impartial and a fresh and realistic perspective of what we are buying or not hehe And I'll really like a full frame section, I mean, you comparing the a7RIV against the a7RV, or the a7IV against the a7III against the a7C... Etc. Nice job Artur!
I like that this guy is trying to be balanced. I feel Sony gets all the content creators/ RUclipsrs on board with the hype. I’m more interested in reports that at the top bitrate at 4k60p it can be overheating in 15 mins and won’t cool down quickly. Also the word ‘AI’ is being overused, it’s just tracking people and faces and cropping in camera or adjusting settings to get in a second face. It’s not doing much ‘Ai’ but it’s the new buzzword. I’m not saying the camera is bad, it looks very good and I’m considering it myself but I think we need proper user reviews to see it’s issues before jumping in on the hype. I personally only shoot pretty short clips but a lot of it is in hot environments- in places like Florida at Disney, if it’s overheating in 10/15 mins and then I can’t get it cool, it’s no good to anyone. I suspect we may get some very bad reports on overheating on this camera and this may be behind this strange decision not to have 4k 120fps as that would really have highlighted overheating in initial review. Anyway I hope not because I want one but I am holding off as I don’t trust most reviews from people who get Sony pre release products.
AI is a buzzword, sure, but I think a lot of people don't understand what AI is. AI doesn't need to be something complex at all, it doesn't need to be learning, doesn't need to be using Neural networks either. A simple piece of code that calculates the optimal f-stop to have 2 sets of eye in focus, is AI, it's an intelligence, and it's artificial.
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube yes but on that basis basic autofocus with people recognition is AI, auto exposure is AI. It isn’t really this is being hyped up as ‘AI’ for marketing reasons.
Well it was similar or even worse with Panasonic S5 mark 2 when they flew all the top content producers to Japan and provided them with a full set of lenses + the camera for an indefinite lease so they can basically keep all the gear for free. And now the actual long time user experiences are not praising the camera as the otherworldly performer with a godly autofocus like the RUclips content producers claimed in their hyped "reviews".
Great video once again. A camera that seems to bring a lot of interesting features for folks, perhaps at the expense of image quality. 4K that is cropped a lot for these features, so no longer 4k…a number of reviewers have noted this but on social media I don’t think anyone will notice or care. It still looks good enough. Overheating…yes, but it’s for short clips not longer videos. My gripe is largely the price for the target market….vloggers. It seems a lot for a few extra tools and of course lenses are expensive (and must be very wide to deal with the crop), but if you can afford it you get a great video tool for a solo creator. Very tempting, but imagine what the next follow up versions will add!
Hi Arthur. Hey when you end up reviewing the new ZV-E1 please please please tell us if we can use our APSC lenses on it. Are the new AI features available if we use APSC lenses on the ZV-E1? Many of us (thinking about upgrading) have a collection of APSC lenses. Or does the AI Features only work with Full Frame lenses? None of the Reviewers have mentioned anything regarding using the ZV-E1 with APSC lenses.
I think I saw on the verge review that you can use apsc lenses ok but it cannot offer the dynamic mode of stabilization so it looses a big feature. Once you change to fullframe you will want to sell most of your apsc lenses. One of the big things on a FF body is the bokeh especially on wide and bright lenses. And also the possibility to zoom a little using prime lenses on fullframe. With apsc lenses you will loose a good part of the show.
@@arquivo225 Thanks. I was wondering about that! I have 6 APSC lenses that would work with the ZV-E1 in a "limited crippled" manner. I would have to invest in the same number of new full frame lenses which would empty my bank account :(
@@ArthurR They usually like just beautiful words, they go in electroshock if not 😅 Do nothing about firmware.. Ghost's you on camera's that have problems, give RUclips creators a camera for just 2 days of review, pay nothing, sell the new camer's $2.5k or more.. No innovation in APS-C under $1k.. No cooling system on camera's, no 5 axis stabilization under $1k, no new much higher quality sensors..
Thanks for this review 👍🏻 i personally think this is a great cam, when you using it as a b-cam 😉 I have the fx6 and for me I think the ZVE1 is the better option as an fx30. The overheating problem is not good, but it is not so important for me, because I don’t film so long projects. Für holidays I think this small cam would be really perfect 😀
@DDHDTV the a6400 is an amazing camera for photography and reasonably good for video, but I want an apsc body with ibis, no record time limit, and hopefully 4k 60 with no crop. (And I don't want to pay 2k for it) Until then the a6400 is the best sony option.
Messed up on my other comment, think it can do 4k 24 for 30+ min indoor for like a podcast? I was just in the market to buy two cameras, had them all picked out then this dropped lol
Thank you Arthur for another informative video. Looking forward to your proper review as well. I must say that, even if I could afford this camera, no viewfinder and overheating are definitely dealbreakers for me. Living on a greek island with the sun very much present for most days of the year these characteristics would certainly cause several issues.
I think the ZV-E1 would be a great travel camera. Great low light performance for indoor venues, such as museums (which usually aren't brightly lit, to preserve the artwork). One of the things that frustrates me with my A7iii, is the way noise levels go up as light levels go down. The ZV-E1, true to its A7Siii roots, is a low light beast. Travelers usually aren't shooting long clips, anyway, and with a little power discipline (shut it off when not actually shooting) I suspect the heat sensitivity would be manageable. Better rolling shutter plus burst mode give it an edge over the FX-30 as a stills camera, especially in low light. And the stabilization is second to none. If you're reasonably steady, you can leave the gimbal behind. And it's the cheapest Sony body with the AI focusing system. Focus uber alles. You can fix color, within reason. And you can fix exposure, within reason. But it's pretty hard to fix missed focus. You either hit focus or you didn't. And if you didn't, it's not a keeper.
@@n3w549 Not sure I'd choose it for product photography. Where it excels is low light, which is not a factor for product photography. I'd pay a little more for the A7iv. It's a much better stills camera.
Sony APS-C needs a COMPACT quality 23mm f2 (35mm equivalent) and 18mm f2 (28mm equivalent) small everyday carry lenses that can compete with Fuji and the Leica CL...We've been waiting 10 years.
@@wakeywarrior I've looked at the 23 1.4 from Viltrox, looks decent but after looking at the Leica CL 23 f2 and how compact it is I want a similar lens for Sony APS-C. Sick of hanging long donkey d*ck lenses around my neck
I am currently thinking of buying the Sony A7IV because i want to use it for both youtube content creation and taking astro photography & beautiful pictures...Should i just get the ZV-E1 instead ???? please let me know. thx
I think it has advantages but that overhead mm also slows me down, it is also very expensive, better I wait for the second version of A7C M2 that seems to me that it would be more complete than this one'.
Hey Arthur, so I guess no real improvement in photo quality? Just want to know if I should wait for the new APSC. Will not wait if there are no changes to photography though :)
Well, there’s a bib problem for me: overheating. In Europe this camera will cost 2700 euros… paying this kind of price for a camera that after 15m of filming in 60pfs it’s just not acceptable
Do you follow the Sony Alpha Rumors RUclips Channel? Seem like a great guy with pretty reliable sources. He says that this year the A7CII will come out, Basically an A7C with the new A7IV sensor, probably with the new AF.
It’s really annoying that Sony even doesn’t fix such problems as the grey color for the focusareamarker on the r3. I know it’s an older camera but this shouldn’t be any problem for Sony. But you will have to go to the r4 to get it fixed.
As much as I love Sony coming out with new stuff regularly. Can they please take a break with new cameras and come out with a version 2 of the 16-35 2.8 GM. Been waiting for that to come out for a while and it’s not a matter of if, but when! It’s their second most popular lens next to the 24-70 and they updated that what seems to be a while ago. That’s just my 2 cents.
Clearly this camera has its flaws, but I think something that it's just lost on people is what you can do in low light like some off the chart, low light stuff even by full frame standards and that the fact that the 1080p in this camera is a two to one over sample. Probably some of the best 1080p in existence and it's for content creators. Not pro videographers or filmmakers perspective is everything. I wouldn't buy it but I could see where it could work for a lot of creators
I personally think what there thinking is if you can afford a A1 for 7000 you should be able to afford high end cine glass. And for mid range cine glass for the A7siii. That is why they haven’t put breathing compensation on them. While if you can barely afford a body then you might not be able to afford cine glass.
No viewfinder? without the EVF I will never be able to see where my credit card is to buy this camera. I sold the Sony ZV-1 because of the lack of viewfinder. I rarely used it. I hope Sony stops the trend of EVF-less cameras.
@@ArthurR Zero Viewfinder=Zero Value for me. Too many RUclipsrs pump these cameras. I appreciate that you express your reservation. Too many RUclipsrs seem marketing shills, like with the DJI Action 3, so much praise, while concealing dealbreakers like the defective focus calibration and pood dynamic range. I lost my trust in many of these "creators". I appreciate your reviews, they seem honest and straightforward, without hype.
Arthur, I love your channel, but this one myth allows camera companies to produce worse cameras for us, let's stop! Fewer megapixels give you better low light performance if you look at both photos at 100% (a completely different field of view), but they give you WORSE low light performance if you look at those same photos with the same field of view, which is how you would normally compare them. This being said, sure, the zv-e1 has better low light performance at 12800 ISO when the "dual iso" kicks in and gives you a cleaner image. But bigger pixels don't acquire light faster and don't give you better low light performance if the sensor size is the same
People died when the GH6 was $2200...yet this camera is miles behind a GH6. And people must not say "ah but full frame". Full frame is terribly over rated! This camera is perfect for full frame Sony RUclipsrs that are invested and looking for a camera for their studio talking head shots. If Panasonic made this camera they'd be grilled. But Sonys got a ton of people hyping it up avoiding the shortfalls
I love your reviews but can’t help but wonder that all these cameras are becoming less and less useful and aimed at pros whose list of irrelevant but never ending features won’t ever come into existence. As a casual but dedicated user I have not seen a reason to upgrade from my 6400. To have cameras with sd cards instead of built in ssd, no easy wi fi connections, not easy UI ect ect in. 2023 is a joke. I took my iPhone 14 to Florida and the photos were in a different league compared to fussing around with the raw photos from my Sony. The fact you can’t upload to sites like instagram from a camera is beyond me! Until camera manufacturers start making their cameras (talking the interface) more like phones and less like cameras from the early 2000’s I can’t and won’t see the point in upgrading
all fun and games until your zv-e1 overheats during an important shoot and your back-up cam is.. a second zv-e1. Oh-ohh. I'll stick wirh my a7iv and i'll use the DJI RS3 Pro Combo with LiDAR focus system if i want to use two cams in a one man job.
Hey Arthur! Just wanted to say that you are 100% deserving of that spot at Sony Camera Camp - all of your videos are informative, thoughtful, and entertaining. I know I am not speaking only for myself when I say that your channel has played a big part in providing us Sony enthusiasts with a lot of thought provoking content, and I trust your reviews when I am looking at buying new gear myself. Keep it up man!
Appreciate the compliment, thank you!
Yes, I saw the title of this video and I wasn't going to watch it because I already knew about the ZV-E1, but I saw your name under it and that immediately changed my mind, because your videos are high quality and insightful.
Agreed. No surprise at all about the invitation.
Exactly! Your channel is awesome. 😎👍🏼
I agree
I recently upgraded from the Sony A6500 to the Sony A7IV after 6+ years. The faster processor, better color science, and faster auto focus is amazing IMO. Not to mention the flip out screen, better menu system, two SD card shots, and 10 bit video. Well worth the update.
I'm with you in almost every point but the screen. Wish it had the a7rv screen. I still have my a6500 and surprisingly it feels better both in build quality and ergonomic, that's the only drawback.
Well I came from similar point but in the middle I buyed a7iii I'm so happy with a7iv but I'm a bit jealous with that new camera that have 4k 60 without crop but it not have joystick dials or buttons more mxp for photography and the most important no mechanical shutter like a7iv even don't have evf I can't consider for profesional work because I don't have the time to choose the options in the screen .
Finally an objective video, without unfounded advertising. Congratulations, Arthur!
I am still waiting for the next APS-C Sony FX30 sensor with a view finder 😎
You and me both!
Agreed. I film wildlife and travels in Africa, so no EVF, no purchase. Overheating issues, no purchase. The camera is unusable.
But looking forward to these features being tested in this consumer level model and trickled 'down' to the higher end cameras....
Same here. Outdoor content creator based out of South Florida. This thing will literally melt the minute I take it outside.
100% all the bells and whistles mean nothing if you can't use the camera.
@@maruwaanmoses I'm legitimately thinking about the Canon R6ii. I was considering the R8 for its size and compactness but the lack of IBIS and low battery life sucks.
@@ActionXander You should perhaps look at the Panasonic S5ii as well. They seem to be a solid option.
@@maruwaanmoses that was actually on the top of my list for awhile but the lack of AF at 120fps+ sucks 😩 I need *some* reliable AF to capture cinema 🤣 I'm realistically still considering it though
I am right there with you. I am thinking it is a backup to a backup. Do I really need the a7siii, a7iv, and the zv-e1? Probably not. I would like the smaller form factor for just grabbing a camera for a fun day out with the family but $2200 might be the deal breaker for me. Don't get me wrong, I think the price is justified but for what I would use it for, I would feel I overpaid.
One of the better reviews/overviews I’ve seen on RUclips for this new camera. Enjoyed the critical look!
Arthur, your channel is great and your spot was earned. I switched from Panasonic LUMIX to Sony because of you and totally no regrets. I probably paid for your ticket to Sony with all the Sony gear I bought based on your reviews. :-) I am enjoying photography so much more than I have in many years thanks to the A6100 and lens, as well as the A7C. My family has noticed the difference in image and picture quality since my Sony conversion.
Your unbiased review is greatly appreciated.
We ordered this camera 📸 with the intent of doing interviews and vlogs while creating educational videos for teachers and families.
Looking forward to receiving it and trying it out. Will a faster memory card help with overheating issues. We are in Florida ☀️
Arthur. Well deserved call to bring you to the Sony event. Your videos are always spot on. Keep it going and don’t sell yourself shot! ❤
great video man. while i am frustrated about sonys lack of support with firmware, this new camera doesn’t make me upset at all as an A7S owner. as a full time freelancer using the A7S weekly for client work, it is arguably the greatest and most reliable machine i’ve ever used. id trust it to capture anything without failing and i still get excited when i use it. if i were primarily a vlogger/content creator it’d definitely be different though. this new camera does get me excited for the future. gotta be some huge stuff in store for the future full frame flagships
Let's hope replacement for a6400 and a6600 are coming soon with all those new features and reasonable price!
Arthur, you bring up so many points, like overheating, that none of the other Tubers mentioned in their videos! I am new subscriber. Thanks
At least several of the reviewers mentioned in the video DID mention overheating, like Gerald Undone.
I'm excited what Sony does with the new video tech with the a7C II and the new APSC a6X00 camera.
Quick fact check: the larger pixels don't have less noise just because they're larger. Smaller pixels technically have more noise but it's less visible because the pixels are smaller. HOWEVER if you are shooting 4k video and only using a small number of the pixels on your high resolution sensor, that is no longer true. So an 8 mp camera has the best low light for 4k video, if we're not considering downsampling. Also, the larger pixels make it easier to put electronics in the sensor, and this is a huge thing for the A7SIII and ZV-E1 because that sensor has a dual native ISO, which makes very high ISOs less noisy by a large amount. So yes, the A7SIII has the best low light performance in video, but not just because it is low resolution. It's because of the dual native ISO and because it actually uses most of the sensor area.
Great comment, and you are 100% right after some research. Its all about that dual native ISO. I edited that portion of the video.
@@ArthurR Wow, appreciate it!
I just published a video yesterday and share your outlook - it's a great B/C cam for existing Sony users, but it won't attract many new users at that high price point.
One minor thing... the difference for a 12 megapixel and a 33 megapixel sensor of the same size in low light is going to be negligible (given they are using the same technology)
It is true that the larger pixels will individually pick up more light than the smaller pixels, but, the smaller pixels will also contribute less noise compared to a single larger pixel (give the noise to signal ratio is the same for the sensors, which should be very close if they are from the same generation).
If we pixel-peep and zoom in where the smaller pixels are shown at the same size on the screen as the larger pixels, the image with the higher resolution sensor is going to look noisier just like how a smaller sensor tend to have more noise than larger ones. But when looking at the image as a whole, the smaller pixels will also take up less space, contributing less actual noise to the overall image.
But yea... there is certainly truth behind a single larger pixels absorbing more light than a single smaller pixel, though it may not actually lead to better low light performance in the end image.
As always though, thanks for the thoughtful video, looking forward to your review 👍... and hope that $1,000 dream camera will exist one day... hopefully
You are right, thank you - video has been edited!
@@ArthurR woah that is so quick, anyways... thanks for the video, keep up the great work :)
Actually your wrong. ruclips.net/video/VSFqCnzIe9M/видео.html
Higher megapixel cameras do better in low light.
@@cjenkins79 I think you missed the point in the video you sent.
Higher megapixel have better image quality in those examples because they have higher resolution. The point of the video is to show low megapixel doesn't "gather more light" as the overall sensor size is the same
Of course the higher resolution sensor looks better in those comparisons when cropped in, just like how it would in any situations, normal or low light.
No one is ever going to argue that higher resolution is gonna have more detail cropped in. But that is not the topic here.
Rather than saying "Higher megapixel cameras do better in low light", it's more accurate to say "Higher megapixel cameras are better", but again, that have nothing to do with light gathering, but with pixel density.
But since we are specifically referring to light gathering in low light, just as the rain bucket analogy from that video you sent, there is no difference.
Keep the APS-C dream alive!
Oh darn, would've loved to have networked with you while I was there! Also not apart of the 100 top so that was interesting of an experience, but I'm glad everyone is so friendly
I dream your dream. I can give up the dual-slot, the full HDMI port, the 4k 120 etc. But the other features make normal video/photo so much better. This is a great camera, but I will wait for the APS-C flagship that comes with the AI features. I don't need ZV-E1, I need a7000 that can take photos, too.
The APS-C "flagship" will have the same body and same overheating issues, it wont have a body of a FX30
Thank you for sharing this ❤❤ awesome info!! Much love from Canada 🇨🇦
This is the first place I look for Sony gear reviews, so I would assume you should be first on the list for an invite to any Sony event!
I appreciate your thoughtful, sober approach to this camera. While I am wary of the compromises this camera makes, I still ordered one. I'm a Sony full-frame still photographer with a pretty full line-up of lenses. Just started film school, so this camera should carry me through my education, and I'll get the next gen FX-3 when I graduate. This camera might make a good holdover camera for a lot of students out there, given its ridiculous value proposition.
Im a fuji shooter thinking of getting a Sony. I might just pull the trigger and get a a6400
Meanwhile everyone is watching videos on their phone and they can't tell the difference from an iPhone to a FF camera. Also I prefer Super 35 sensor for shooting videos. FF is good for pictures. However not at 12mpx. Anyways the FX30 is way better for filming.
Perfect compliment to my a7rv... super excited to see all this leading edge tech from Sony. They are thinking way ahead of Canon & Nikon
The good thing is that we know most of those new features will come to the next models. For you right now, the A7C is a better camera.
So is the a7c still 80% as good for video as this new camera?
I do direct to camera toy car news and product reviews and i have studio lights. I deliver in 1080 only.
I could use a third stills body.
I am sure when the new a7cII is released, used a7c's will drop in value online to around 1,000 for a nice, used body.
So at twice the price, is the new ZV-E1 twice the camera as an a7c for video?
thanks-Dave K
Great takes. Makes me wonder if they can fit an apsc sensor in a zv-1 body.
nice review! glad you got to go to camera camp! my feelings also about the camera, tempted but not really for me, i'm primarily still and over heating in sunny CA will be an issue. 4k 120 will be an issue with heat.
Sony should release a true small, lightweight and affordable wide prime lens! With that kind of 30% crop of dynamic mode it should be 14 or 15mm 2.0 or 2.8. I know there is a G Master 14mm 1.8 but it is too bigz heavy and expensive. Take a look at the Sony APSC 11mm and made it similar for fullframe. And maybe in the future that dunamic mode crop could be less intrusive.
There is a 20mm but there is place for 15mm f2
@@Donbros I was taking photos with a Nikon 20mm 1.8 for years and it was amazing. Bur for vlogs with that dynamic mode cropping 30% it's not like a 20mm anymore. So I agree with you. And the great part of vloging is to move around instrad of beeing stucked with a boring background.
Thank you for a view from interesting perspective.
I own A7III and a6600 with a bunch of lenses and accessories, and always look carefully when a new body is announced. But still never felt the urge to invest in upgrading the body yet.
Even though I feel like shifting more from a photography towards videography, and all of the restrictions of my camera bodies bug me: poor image stabilization that's not enough for handheld video, 8-bit with worse color science, terrible rolling shutter especially in 4k, 4k30 (and 25) instead of 4k120 (and 100), lack of autofocus features in video - like animal autofocus, and so on.
But still, I feel like investing in new accessories and glass is more rewarding than hunting for a new body.
Today GoPro still feels like a better option for doing handheld video stuff like vlogs for me, it's body is lighter and more durable, it even can shoot underwater without special box.
I think maybe Sony are trying to get GoPro or even smartphone market share with its EV series, but it still feels like they are still haven't figured it out, they're working on it but haven't made their best option yet. Like A7III was when it was new.
good counterpoint with useful details!
I think its compromised in two many areas. Its seems necessary to wait for version 2 of this!
Thanks!
Hopefully Sony A7C II will carry these specs below
-33MP Full-Frame Exmor R BSI CMOS Sensor
-BIONZ XR & AI Processing Unit
-4K60p 10-bit 4:2:2 internal (full sensor), S-Log3/S-Cinetone
-4K30p ProRes 422/HQ/LT 4:2:2
-AI Based Real-Time Tracking AF System
-759-Point, Fast Hybrid AF, Real-Time Eye AF
-Focus Breathing Compensation
-Focus Map
-2.36m-Dot OLED EVF with 120fps refresh rate
-3.0" 1.44m-Dot Vari-Angle Touchscreen LCD
-Intuitive Touchscreen LCD
-New Video Display Layout
-up to 8-Stop 5-Axis SteadyShot Image Stabilization
-15fps Mechanical Shutter Shooting with AF/AE Tracking, ISO 100-204.800
-Anti-Dust Shutter Mechanism
-Creative Looks and Soft Skin Effect
-Full-Size HDMI
-Dual CFexpress Type-A/SD Card Slot
-5GHz MIMO WiFi, Bluetooth, NFC
-Price $2349
Keep dream on
Sony would thus cut off his other cameras. But it sure would be cool if they packed the A7IV into the A7CII body. As an A7C user I will wait for it.
Great video as always! Congrats on 200k!
Oooo I didn’t know the overheating was that bad. Think it can do 4k 24 for 30+ min
Im not considering buying Sony ZV E1 , or any other camera , i had Canon 50D , then 5D , then 6D , then i saw that i use 5D more , so i found my camera for stills , for Movies , if its important 6D will do .
Great review as always Arthur..... I think it's an awesome new camera from Sony, I already have the A7sIII. At this point I can't really see myself getting one, but if I did I'd sell the A7sIII. As I only use my gear as a hobby not for work, If I was using it for work then that's a different story. Ppl complain oh, oh I just paid out for a A7sIII or what another flagship camera 3 months ago. Things progress at a fast pace, no use buying a $70,000 car and by next year it's worth $55,000. Just how it goes....... Only issue I have with Sony is they are very slow to give firmware updates. Unlike Lumix and anything DJI always bringing out updates. Anyway Arthur thanx for sharing bro. 👍
Good perspective. Although I do think for those newer cameras that can be updated via firmware, they should be. Its like if a car company released a car and abandoned it completely the next year and never did recalls or servicing for it.
Thanks for this video, helped to solidify my choice to save up for the FX30 instead!
Yeah, I'm going to need that dream APS-C camera...
Nice video, I always like to see your videos really impartial and a fresh and realistic perspective of what we are buying or not hehe
And I'll really like a full frame section, I mean, you comparing the a7RIV against the a7RV, or the a7IV against the a7III against the a7C... Etc.
Nice job Artur!
I like that this guy is trying to be balanced. I feel Sony gets all the content creators/ RUclipsrs on board with the hype. I’m more interested in reports that at the top bitrate at 4k60p it can be overheating in 15 mins and won’t cool down quickly. Also the word ‘AI’ is being overused, it’s just tracking people and faces and cropping in camera or adjusting settings to get in a second face. It’s not doing much ‘Ai’ but it’s the new buzzword.
I’m not saying the camera is bad, it looks very good and I’m considering it myself but I think we need proper user reviews to see it’s issues before jumping in on the hype. I personally only shoot pretty short clips but a lot of it is in hot environments- in places like Florida at Disney, if it’s overheating in 10/15 mins and then I can’t get it cool, it’s no good to anyone. I suspect we may get some very bad reports on overheating on this camera and this may be behind this strange decision not to have 4k 120fps as that would really have highlighted overheating in initial review. Anyway I hope not because I want one but I am holding off as I don’t trust most reviews from people who get Sony pre release products.
AI is a buzzword, sure, but I think a lot of people don't understand what AI is. AI doesn't need to be something complex at all, it doesn't need to be learning, doesn't need to be using Neural networks either. A simple piece of code that calculates the optimal f-stop to have 2 sets of eye in focus, is AI, it's an intelligence, and it's artificial.
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube yes but on that basis basic autofocus with people recognition is AI, auto exposure is AI. It isn’t really this is being hyped up as ‘AI’ for marketing reasons.
Well it was similar or even worse with Panasonic S5 mark 2 when they flew all the top content producers to Japan and provided them with a full set of lenses + the camera for an indefinite lease so they can basically keep all the gear for free.
And now the actual long time user experiences are not praising the camera as the otherworldly performer with a godly autofocus like the RUclips content producers claimed in their hyped "reviews".
@@Minsetti yes I think you are always better off waiting for real world feedback on RUclips etc from people who actually have bought the gear.
Great video once again. A camera that seems to bring a lot of interesting features for folks, perhaps at the expense of image quality. 4K that is cropped a lot for these features, so no longer 4k…a number of reviewers have noted this but on social media I don’t think anyone will notice or care. It still looks good enough. Overheating…yes, but it’s for short clips not longer videos. My gripe is largely the price for the target market….vloggers. It seems a lot for a few extra tools and of course lenses are expensive (and must be very wide to deal with the crop), but if you can afford it you get a great video tool for a solo creator. Very tempting, but imagine what the next follow up versions will add!
Yeah, I really like it too which lens would you suggest getting because I don’t want to get the kit lens
Hi Arthur. Hey when you end up reviewing the new ZV-E1 please please please tell us if we can use our APSC lenses on it. Are the new AI features available if we use APSC lenses on the ZV-E1? Many of us (thinking about upgrading) have a collection of APSC lenses. Or does the AI Features only work with Full Frame lenses? None of the Reviewers have mentioned anything regarding using the ZV-E1 with APSC lenses.
I think I saw on the verge review that you can use apsc lenses ok but it cannot offer the dynamic mode of stabilization so it looses a big feature.
Once you change to fullframe you will want to sell most of your apsc lenses. One of the big things on a FF body is the bokeh especially on wide and bright lenses. And also the possibility to zoom a little using prime lenses on fullframe. With apsc lenses you will loose a good part of the show.
@@arquivo225 Thanks. I was wondering about that! I have 6 APSC lenses that would work with the ZV-E1 in a "limited crippled" manner. I would have to invest in the same number of new full frame lenses which would empty my bank account :(
It may be my 1st Full Frame Camera , is good enough . Thanks for sincere review.. 👍🏼
You made me expecting more on A7cII
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Sony's sales manager that gives to Artur the camera?
@@ThermalWorld_ if only!
@@ArthurR They usually like just beautiful words, they go in electroshock if not 😅
Do nothing about firmware..
Ghost's you on camera's that have problems, give RUclips creators a camera for just 2 days of review, pay nothing, sell the new camer's $2.5k or more..
No innovation in APS-C under $1k..
No cooling system on camera's, no 5 axis stabilization under $1k, no new much higher quality sensors..
I'm starting to believe that the APS-C may be released in early summer
Thanks for this review 👍🏻 i personally think this is a great cam, when you using it as a b-cam 😉 I have the fx6 and for me I think the ZVE1 is the better option as an fx30. The overheating problem is not good, but it is not so important for me, because I don’t film so long projects. Für holidays I think this small cam would be really perfect 😀
Really cool camera, but pretty niche use. I'm still waiting for a good upgrade path for my a6400, not seen anything that checks the marks quite yet.
Haha and I'm looking to upgrade to the 6400 from my 6000
@DDHDTV the a6400 is an amazing camera for photography and reasonably good for video, but I want an apsc body with ibis, no record time limit, and hopefully 4k 60 with no crop. (And I don't want to pay 2k for it) Until then the a6400 is the best sony option.
Messed up on my other comment, think it can do 4k 24 for 30+ min indoor for like a podcast? I was just in the market to buy two cameras, had them all picked out then this dropped lol
If the temperature is at about 70 degrees, yes. But if it gets hotter, it becomes iffy.
Thank you Arthur for another informative video. Looking forward to your proper review as well. I must say that, even if I could afford this camera, no viewfinder and overheating are definitely dealbreakers for me. Living on a greek island with the sun very much present for most days of the year these characteristics would certainly cause several issues.
12:40 the lack of firmware updates from Sony is a slap in the face for their users. One of the main reasons I went to Fujifilm with the XT5 and XH2s
I pretty agree with everything you said .. super dope vlogger cam but not so much on the professional end.. good video 👌
While I love my little ZV-E10 I wouldn't think for a moment buying this camera. I see it heavily discounted in less than a year.
I think the ZV-E1 would be a great travel camera. Great low light performance for indoor venues, such as museums (which usually aren't brightly lit, to preserve the artwork). One of the things that frustrates me with my A7iii, is the way noise levels go up as light levels go down. The ZV-E1, true to its A7Siii roots, is a low light beast. Travelers usually aren't shooting long clips, anyway, and with a little power discipline (shut it off when not actually shooting) I suspect the heat sensitivity would be manageable. Better rolling shutter plus burst mode give it an edge over the FX-30 as a stills camera, especially in low light. And the stabilization is second to none. If you're reasonably steady, you can leave the gimbal behind.
And it's the cheapest Sony body with the AI focusing system. Focus uber alles. You can fix color, within reason. And you can fix exposure, within reason. But it's pretty hard to fix missed focus. You either hit focus or you didn't. And if you didn't, it's not a keeper.
Would you consider this ZV E1 a good inexpensive product photography camera?
@@n3w549 Not sure I'd choose it for product photography. Where it excels is low light, which is not a factor for product photography. I'd pay a little more for the A7iv. It's a much better stills camera.
Sony APS-C needs a COMPACT quality 23mm f2 (35mm equivalent) and 18mm f2 (28mm equivalent) small everyday carry lenses that can compete with Fuji and the Leica CL...We've been waiting 10 years.
Yes indeed!......
Get the Viltrox 13mm F1.4, not tiny but not bad and fabulous lens.
@@wakeywarrior I've looked at the 23 1.4 from Viltrox, looks decent but after looking at the Leica CL 23 f2 and how compact it is I want a similar lens for Sony APS-C. Sick of hanging long donkey d*ck lenses around my neck
what is the advantage of the mechanical shutter against the electronic shutter ?
I am currently thinking of buying the Sony A7IV because i want to use it for both youtube content creation and taking astro photography & beautiful pictures...Should i just get the ZV-E1 instead ???? please let me know. thx
Do you understand that are two completely different cameras? If you have such a big doubt you shouldnt buy any of these two.
I'm waiting for a tilta cage and put an external screen. The A7SIII is to expensive for youtube only, this one will replace my A7SII and my ZVE10
I think it has advantages but that overhead mm also slows me down, it is also very expensive, better I wait for the second version of A7C M2 that seems to me that it would be more complete than this one'.
Is this ZV E1 good enough for photography?
this isn't weather sealed, so why not put a fan in this? this could've been the perfect camera. soooonnnyyyyyyy! ;-;
Hey Arthur, so I guess no real improvement in photo quality?
Just want to know if I should wait for the new APSC.
Will not wait if there are no changes to photography though :)
No, because its the same lower-resolution sensor as the A7Siii, and no mechanical shutter.
If I would get 120fps on Sony a7iv....... Then it will be more satisfying things than getting this one.... It's my personal opinion..
Well, there’s a bib problem for me: overheating. In Europe this camera will cost 2700 euros… paying this kind of price for a camera that after 15m of filming in 60pfs it’s just not acceptable
To me, #6 is #1: if I can't see to use the camera it doesn't matter how many features, or faults, it has.
Do you follow the Sony Alpha Rumors RUclips Channel? Seem like a great guy with pretty reliable sources. He says that this year the A7CII will come out, Basically an A7C with the new A7IV sensor, probably with the new AF.
Sony Fx3 is my A cam. Sony a6600 is my B. I'm waiting for the Sony a6600 replacement because I need a viewfinder
hey arthur, at 0:25 is it the ulanzi tripod with pgytech snaplock ?
It’s really annoying that Sony even doesn’t fix such problems as the grey color for the focusareamarker on the r3. I know it’s an older camera but this shouldn’t be any problem for Sony. But you will have to go to the r4 to get it fixed.
10:26 what lens and gimbal was that :O it looks insanely hard to hold. Was that the 200-600 or a prime he used ?
As much as I love Sony coming out with new stuff regularly. Can they please take a break with new cameras and come out with a version 2 of the 16-35 2.8 GM. Been waiting for that to come out for a while and it’s not a matter of if, but when! It’s their second most popular lens next to the 24-70 and they updated that what seems to be a while ago. That’s just my 2 cents.
It seems strange that they are competing the fx30 and the E1 in the same price range
Whenever I think of upgrading my a6000 which I bought after watching your videos long back, you make sure to kill my enthusiasm and hype.
Does the release of this camera mean that an A7C ii is not coming?
Thats a question that no one currently knows the answer to. I hope not.
So generally zve-1 is sus for reliability and that is kinda min thing why its 1.3k cheaper than a7siii construction and heat decepiation costs
No way they meet your wish list at $1k. Probably at $1699 to $1899. But I like your wishful thinking.
dont put yourself down like that, your way more relevant to the camera community than ijustine! no hate. just truth
Did he just gave a glimpse into the future?
Its the best ❤
Over heating seems like a big issue and wouldn't risk it
Clearly this camera has its flaws, but I think something that it's just lost on people is what you can do in low light like some off the chart, low light stuff even by full frame standards and that the fact that the 1080p in this camera is a two to one over sample. Probably some of the best 1080p in existence and it's for content creators. Not pro videographers or filmmakers perspective is everything. I wouldn't buy it but I could see where it could work for a lot of creators
I personally think what there thinking is if you can afford a A1 for 7000 you should be able to afford high end cine glass. And for mid range cine glass for the A7siii. That is why they haven’t put breathing compensation on them. While if you can barely afford a body then you might not be able to afford cine glass.
I like this channel because of no biased style, i un subscribed from 10 channel trying to sell this lie of a camera
What about 1080?
No viewfinder? without the EVF I will never be able to see where my credit card is to buy this camera. I sold the Sony ZV-1 because of the lack of viewfinder. I rarely used it. I hope Sony stops the trend of EVF-less cameras.
ZV series maybe stands for Z ero V iewfinder.....? :)
@@ArthurR Zero Viewfinder=Zero Value for me. Too many RUclipsrs pump these cameras. I appreciate that you express your reservation. Too many RUclipsrs seem marketing shills, like with the DJI Action 3, so much praise, while concealing dealbreakers like the defective focus calibration and pood dynamic range. I lost my trust in many of these "creators". I appreciate your reviews, they seem honest and straightforward, without hype.
Well - does it have dual base iso 800/12800 for slog3?
It does.
Arthur, I love your channel, but this one myth allows camera companies to produce worse cameras for us, let's stop! Fewer megapixels give you better low light performance if you look at both photos at 100% (a completely different field of view), but they give you WORSE low light performance if you look at those same photos with the same field of view, which is how you would normally compare them.
This being said, sure, the zv-e1 has better low light performance at 12800 ISO when the "dual iso" kicks in and gives you a cleaner image. But bigger pixels don't acquire light faster and don't give you better low light performance if the sensor size is the same
You learn something new every day! Great comment and I read a few articles that confirm it, so I edited that portion of the video.
Single sd card slot isnt a deal breaker for me.
What happend to your A9?
Sold that a long time ago.
@@ArthurR any particular reason?
All my videos are made using Sony ZV-E10. And and i dont have budget so i will stick to it. 😅
People died when the GH6 was $2200...yet this camera is miles behind a GH6.
And people must not say "ah but full frame". Full frame is terribly over rated!
This camera is perfect for full frame Sony RUclipsrs that are invested and looking for a camera for their studio talking head shots.
If Panasonic made this camera they'd be grilled. But Sonys got a ton of people hyping it up avoiding the shortfalls
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I love your reviews but can’t help but wonder that all these cameras are becoming less and less useful and aimed at pros whose list of irrelevant but never ending features won’t ever come into existence. As a casual but dedicated user I have not seen a reason to upgrade from my 6400. To have cameras with sd cards instead of built in ssd, no easy wi fi connections, not easy UI ect ect in. 2023 is a joke. I took my iPhone 14 to Florida and the photos were in a different league compared to fussing around with the raw photos from my Sony. The fact you can’t upload to sites like instagram from a camera is beyond me!
Until camera manufacturers start making their cameras (talking the interface) more like phones and less like cameras from the early 2000’s I can’t and won’t see the point in upgrading
for me is still hard not to get the fx-3 even if it means 1500 more......... is hard, but true :), i want it, but no, lol
all fun and games until your zv-e1 overheats during an important shoot and your back-up cam is.. a second zv-e1. Oh-ohh. I'll stick wirh my a7iv and i'll use the DJI RS3 Pro Combo with LiDAR focus system if i want to use two cams in a one man job.
Yea that's what id be scared of. Even for youtube shoots, id be upset if it shut off outside in the sun when im trying to record a 15 minute segment.