Must be some kind of brain implant or nanite injection that interfaces with your central nervous system and forms a USB port on the back of your head. I'm not comfortable with Facebook having this technology. (Upon further consideration, I think the USB port would form somewhere on the face. Because _Facebook._
I don't really understand. The Quest 2's higher resolution is not only harder to drive in general, but the compression will introduce a performance overhead on your pc. For people that only have a midrange PC, say something like a 1070 for example, a Rift S might just have the more clear experience. I think a Rift S is still worth it for someone who's on a budget with a midrange PC and who only cares about PCVR
@@jatoxo The performance overhead should be non-existent if done correctly, as real-time video encoders are on nearly every modern graphics card from AMD and nVidia. Once zero copy mode is enabled on those cards even H265/HEVC should be no problem with near zero performance loss. What I don't understand about the Quest 2 is why it doesn't have the ability to use DisplayPort over USB-C if you have a capable graphics card.
Rift S is actually great, but Oculus made it crap with bugs. I own a Quest 2 but I'm still currently using my Rift S since it's a whole lot more comfortable and I don't have to worry about battery life. Keep in mind I don't buy any Oculus exclusives.
The average of each placement, or in other words, over all ranking of the headsets is as follows 1: Index, with an average of 4.25/5 for placement 2: Reverb G2, with an average of 3.25/5 for placement 3: Quest, with an average of 3.50/5 for placement 4: Cosmos Elite, with an average of 3.00/5 for placement 5: Rift s, with an average of 1.25/5 for placement Hopefully this is helpful
I actually wouldn't take an Index over a Quest 2 personally, but I'm a bit of a resolution snob. IMO, the Index's wider FOV & better built-in audio just aren't worth giving up literally 50% of your pixels for. 🤷♂️ The Quest 2 is just on a COMPLETELY different level when it comes to sharpness/clarity, even if its image field is notably smaller. Thus I see the Index as one step forward but two steps back. ESPECIALLY when you consider that those much fewer pixels have to be stretched out over an even larger, wider area. I totally agree with Boz (head of Meta Reality Labs [aka what used to be Oculus]) in that pixel density (at least up to a point) is FAR more important in the immediate future to VR immersion than increased FOV. HTC made the right choice to prioritize resolution over FOV with the Vive Pro 2 and I'm hoping that Meta does the same w/ Quest 3 (sure, a moderately higher FOV would obviously be nice, but not if it comes at the expense of additional pixel density!)
@SomeChristianDude I'm genuinely surprised how many people still have this sentiment. You can just use a dummy FB account and then sideload a tool that removes anything FB related. It's not that difficult and worth it if you want high res PCVR for cheap. I've moved on from the Quest 2 to a HP G2 but I've never had problems using a dummy FB account and using the FB removal tool with Oculus Link.
@@Cooe. i am with you on that, i am a resolution snob, i used a mixed reality headset with the same resolution and hated the viewing experience compared to the quest 2. My prorities with a vr display are clarity refresh rate fov
@@unknown_-ed2rs is Rift S really that obsolete? For $150-200 starting to get into VR, I don't think its that bad. If anything...VR as an industry has always been getting the short end of the stick in development
@@NopeKickEm it's not necessarily obsolete, but isn't nearly as good as other PC VR headsets (although that isn't its goal). You would be better off buying a quest 2 and using link if you want oculus hardware or are on a tight budget. I would recommend the cosmos, but I am a little biased as the cosmos is what I have.
It's kind of nice now that there's several options actually tailored for different kinds of people. Like if you're on the fence, The Quest 2 is the gateway drug. Then I'm sure given time, you want to get into full body tracking and then next thing you know you're slapping down a thousand dollars for a valve index.
A friend of mine who uses an index actually bought a quest 2 just to try out, he now lends it out to people to convert them to VR (it worked on me as I now have an index too!)
Yeah I've had my quest 2 for about 7 months or so and I didn't use it that much in those 7 months. But man when I was having a bad day and decided to go hop in VRchat... best decision I've made in a long time lets put it that way. I've now been playing VRchat almost every day since that bad day happened. Edit: And because I use it for PCVR I am going to get the index and vive trackers.... and maybe some other things for VR as I'd rather spend my time in VR chatting with folks than spend my time in a shitty looking shed with no one to talk to.
@@Random6IX I'm waiting for a controller to arrive they claim will fix mine I haven't been able to play since March 12th or so and I got it march 3rd. I don't expect the controller to fix my problem though.
Seems the Index is still (specifically of properly commercially available headsets) the go-to headset for the most 'complete' VR setup. The price can't be ignored though and the fact that it isn't sold in some major regions (RIP Australia) is a negative. To summarise as simply as possible, it seems that the Quest 2 is the best entry level set, while the Index is the best enthusiast set.
Yeah thats what I did. I have a quest 2 right now and after experiencing the wonders that is VRchat I am DEFINITELY selling my quest 2 (or maybe not idk) and getting an Index. Not that the resolution of the quest 2 is a trouble for me (I use airlink so I can have a very long play time tethered to the stock charger) as my PC is very powerful but after hearing that the index has almost no noticeable screen door effect, like, SIGN ME THE F UP MAN!
rift s just arrived and im watching this video. ouch EDIT: I’ve had my rift for a nearly a week now and already have a good 20 hours in vr most of it being vr chat. I’m very satisfied with the quality of the screens and headset. I’m able to be in vr for ages compared to my og quest.
bought one brand new earlier this year cuz of covid, I have 100s of hours in vr and and haven't had any problems with the headset itself at all so far so rest assured 👌 it's still as fun as vr can get tbh
it's defo not trash nor bad, but it just doesn't make sense to buy a rift s right now when you can buy something for cheaper or the same price that is better
I love my rift s I think the quality is good and it doesn’t lag too much but people for no reason go out of their way to hate on you for having a rift s
@@chikalikedis8170 Yeah well isn't this how any PC hardware goes? Also doesn't help that Facebook owns Oculus. I just bought a Rift S cheap on Ebay so I don't see why hating on it now does anyone good.
Haven’t had a headset since the original oculus rift and just got the quest 2. The change in quality is amazing and I can’t stop using it. Love the choice to play standalone or pc as well as having inside out tracking since I’ll be going back to college in a month and can’t set up any base stations there. Also the jump in lens quality has made vr so much better and I’m starting to play it way more than I used to.
@@dragonandavatarfan8865 Nintendo is far less evil than Facebook. The worst Nintendo does is overly aggressively protects it's products. Facebook stalks you and sells your data.
@@johnbuscher gtfo out of here lmao you are like caring about your privacy and still using google services 😬. I dont even think you know what Tor browser is.(you will google it ik)
Hmm 🤔 I think I’ll buy the quest 2 as I honestly can imagine that there is gonna be huge improvements to vr in the next year and will be a good stepping stone.
im running a 1070 and ryzen 5 2600x with an index, so it should be good in case you care if you have that kinda hardware. otherwise, move it up (i still use my og vive over the index still until this day anyways, index sucks for comfort for my glasses, sad day)
@@mastersergant1287 What refresh rate and resolution do you play at? I have an overclocked 1070 with a 3700x, I wanted to upgrade my GPU but can't really do that for obvious reasons. I would love to get something like the reverb g2 but I don't think my PC can run it well, same with the Index.
Decagear will be awesome unless it's tracking is another cosmos. Though, it will use an older type strap and has no audio solution so it won't be as comfortable as others, but then again, at 450$ it's cheap.
I got my Index in April after 4 weeks of waiting I knew it was the headset to go for in 2019 after looking around on alternatives for a year. What can I say, still get updates and improvements to graphics and usability I can play for hours in a game like "Into The Radius" and "Walking Dead: Saints And Sinners". Since I am interested in technology I still watch Thrill amongst others and the sweet voice of "you made the right choice" whispering in my ears.
That won't come out until summer of 2021, and COVID-19 will probably be over with by then since there are vaccines out now. Do you really want to miss out on half a year of VR gaming waiting?
@@nervaproject I don't, but I don't like the compromises on all the headsets out right now. The Index is too expensive, the Reverb G2 doesn't have a great range of tracking because of camera placement, and the Oculus Quest 2 has *facebook* .
@@PNolandS I don't think the Index is too expensive. The Index headset itself only costs $500, which is typical for a VR headset. The added price to the Index is for base stations and the awesome Index controllers, which are light-years ahead of what anyone else has on the market. They cost $500 because they're the best, and they're worth it. They are so worth it that other headset producers like Pimax, JVC, and HTC Vive are making their headsets compatible with the Index controllers or in some cases selling their headsets bundled with the Index controllers. This means if you get the full Index kit now and then a few years down the road a new headset comes out with a huge FOV and resolution, there is a good chance you'll be able to use your Index controllers and base stations with your headset upgrade. So about $500 worth of your $1000 Index purchase gets carried over to your next headset and gets re-used, potentially... adding value to your NEXT virtual reality headset purchase. The $1000 price tag looks a lot more reasonable when you consider half of it potentially gets re-used on your next headset purchase.
@@nervaproject I get the controllers are good, but given that im about to head off to college next year im going to be moving around a lot for the foreseeable future. No matter how good the controllers are, they're just going to be more trouble than they're worth (for me).
@@PNolandS More trouble than they're worth because of the price, or more trouble than they're worth because of the need to set up base stations and stuff? Also, if you're going to college next year, that sounds like a good reason to play VR right now... because you won't have time when you start college. And you don't want to be distracted with thinking about or playing on a VR headset while you're in college. (Trust me I know from personal experience... the desire to try out VR can screw up a semester). It's better to play whatever games you want to play before you go so that it won't distract you and you can "get it out of your system" as people say. Are you starting in Fall of 2021?
@@ZetaMAGES Yeah but you got to think realistically, they aren’t just gonna do that as it’s illegal to have accounts getting banned for (No reason at all) it’s because of the bots thinking the Facebook accounts are just troll accounts as they are not getting used where they are actually getting used by the oculus quest. It will be fixed soon, I’ve heard people are getting their accounts unbanned as of next week.
Waisted Sausage Oh that’s good news fortunately. I’m just really looking forwards to some good news regarding the Quest 2, and not just the specs and how good it is.
My Knuckle broke just some days ago, I contacted them and in 1 day I've sent them the controller and apparently I'll be receiving a completely new one, so yeah the support's really good but becareful if you play something where you're supposed to punch real hard breh.
@@frenzy2101 Their support is great, but that doesn’t matter when the warranty ends. I don’t want to be stuck with a broken headset after a year that I can’t do anything about
@@videogamesart8057 I think I’ll wait for the index 2 to see if they have the same quality issues as they did last time. If they don’t I’ll probably get that
Crazy how much has changed over only a year. Seamless wireless pcvr with the quest with 120hz refresh rate kind of makes it the only option at this point. And in my opinion, with the higher resolution, high refresh rate and wireless play, the quest 2 basically blows the index out of the water.
In my experience the quest can be extremely hit or miss. My mom’s headset had a damaged fan out of the box that still functions, but only enough to prevent a fire hazard. It gets really hot and makes a loud noise. My brother’s headset lags to death on the home menu so hard he’s actually been put off turning it on and having to deal with the lag. It goes away completely when he gets into a game. And my headset works generally okay, but has some weird performance issues especially when recording, and also is pretty much useless for connecting to a PC. I’ve tried several cables, have an extremely capable computer, and still the resolution is so potatoed that I can literally count pixels of an object that’s two feet away from my face. The distance resolution scaling in a lot of pcvr games also brakes dramatically when I try to use the quest, meaning that if I’m trying to play something like Microsoft flight simulator, I can only go to airports I’ve been to several times before outside of vr, because I literally won’t be able to see the damn runway as anything more than a black shitstain until I get too close to pull out of any kind of landing attempt. All around, just a really poor experience with these headsets. All of these are relatively new (my mom’s has the most glaring issue and is also the newest), and they’re all relatively low-use. They just kinda arbitrarily suck. Obviously all just my experience, but I’m excited for a future when I may be able to try a new headset, especially a valve index. The native res might be lower, but because of the weird problems my headset has with pc, I guaranteed it will be a night and day difference in the actual resolution.
Sound quality, controller tracking, no compression, headset comfort, steam integration... The Quest doesn't blow shit. It's a 3D printed piece of plastic. It's great value but definitely not better.
In FOV with the G2 and Index, it doesn't matter too much because in video games you focus more on a certain object or objective. Peripherals help a lot, don't get me wrong. Being able to see a combine in Half-life Alyx 10 degrees farther to the right or left will help, however most people aren't trained enough to notice and react to that sort of stimuli to the eye. Another thing about the G2, it doesn't need a 2080 Super in order for it to be super clear. The headsets do have their own processors to help with their own individual resolutions. You may be able to run the G2 resolution on a 2060 super and allow it to be super clear. The only thing that would hinder it is the graphical fidelity. It can still be super clear but have worse graphics.
Same here, I've only ever had a psvr and I hate it so I'm pretty excited too!
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Hello Releric, the Quest 2 is the best economic experience you can get out of all of these. And if you want the PCVR experience by getting a gaming PC and using Oculus Link or Virtual Desktop to do so it's very good. Of course technically speaking if you're a hardcore VR enthusiast you would get the Valve Index or HP Reverb for the best graphics fidelity in PCVR. But the Quality control on the headset and controllers for Valve Index is an issue. Thrill Seeker has done a video explaining this saying he's had to replace them twice in periods of 6 months. Also the HP Reverb doesn't have capacitive controllers. Meaning they can't sense individual finger movements when you touch them like other manufacturers provide. And both Valve Index & HP Reverb require stationary camera sensors and aren't portable like Quest 2. It just adds to the experience being able to share VR so easily with friends and family members. In my opinion Quest 2 is the best all around bang for your buck considering these factors. Let me know if you have any questions as I am a Quest 2, HTC Vive, and previously Quest 1 + Rift S owner. I also am heavily involved in the industry as demo VR for a major tech through a Brand Ambassador company.
i just got my hp reverb g2 today and was so exited. now i feel like i have to get the base stations and the valve controllers to make it feel right tho.
I don't know what I would buy in 2021, because it is now Oct 2022. LOL I have bought just recently the HP Reverb G2 V2 headset and still evaluating this product. Even with that headset insert removed to get eyes closer, I still see a small area sweet spot which is clear and outside of the sweet spot the rest of the lenses are fuzzy or blurry. My IPD is 60, so I am at the bottom of the manual adjust of the headset. My Rift S has better clarity on the lenses than this HP headset. How close to the lenses do we have to get to not see this effect? Anyway, that is my take on the newer HP Reverb. Unless I am doing something wrong. I don't think so. Take care.
Yeah agree the sweet spot on the G2 is awful... Then you add to that everything outside the sweet spot is kinda blurry for some reason.. All this adds up to "well technically it has a decent field of view but actually it doesn't" ... I went back to a samsung plus headset and even though the res kinda sucks.. the it looks better in my opinion because wider fov, Oled panels , and clarity is even though out the lens...
The quest 2 is the best right now for me because I can play pcvr wirelessly with that price with everything else on top. The index is amazing but for the price it needs to be undisputed. I wish a new index would come out next year with a higher res and wireless capabilities.
@@clownavenger0 you can do 120hz on the quest but the resolution makes it really difficult. On top of that Link at 120hz has even more compression artifacts
I already have a kinect along with an xbox i dont use, so maybe i can sell the xbox for like 100 dollars(since its an old xbox) and keep the kinect of it then save up for a quest two AND BOOM I GOT A FULL VR SET UP FOR 200 DOLLARS
@William Lauborg I can answer that the elite strap is amazing it is very durable although over time it does ware if you treat it nicely then you should have no problem Also oculus stopped selling them for a little while
any update on the G2 tracking? index is not available in my country, and I'm ready to upgrade my quest one and only play PC VR games. I mainly pay pavlov and Skyrim VR these days
Just got my G2 a week ago...people really made it sound like the tracking was terrible but after a week I've honestly had no complaints from a variety of games. Is it the best? No, but certainly it is worth the high resolution you get with the G2. It's an awesome headset.
it depends, for me its much more worth it the rift S since now its at the same price and you dont need the cable, unless you want to show the vr in other places its better an easy to use the rift S than the quest 2 since you need a much better pc to run it
I think ThrillSeeker's recommendation against buying the Rift S is right given the options, but it's not a terrible headset, and is currently my preferred headset. The quest 2 may have a higher resolution panel, but this is a compressed image coming through a USB cable vs a raw DisplayPort feed. Carmack said in a keynote that you will always notice the compression artifacts. While it is easier to put on the Quest 2, it's front heavy nature makes it uncomfortable fairly quickly. The Rift S is a bit tricky to get on just right, but once I do I could wear it literally all day. I could take a nap in this thing with the right pillow haha. If your eyes fit within the IPD, and your goal is truly only PCVR gaming, the Rift S is the most affordable and most comfortable PCVR headset bar none.
To be honest I'm watching this after buying a VR Headset and I've chosen the quest 2 mostly for the wireless pc vr capabilities, the standalone capabilities and well the price and tbh this guide kind of confirms what I thought before hand, the index is superior but kinda expensive and not as easy to carry around and use in different places + wired while the quest 2 is hands down the best bang for the buck and especially for VR noobs like me a great point to start.
Thing is between rift s and quest 2 good luck running the quest 2 on a budget gaming pc, meanwhile rift s will be fine. Also better strap, its directly displaying the image so it might as well look very similar while being much less demanding. Sure less features but simpler and easier to run.
I totally agree, and with the addition of air link why would you get anything else. Sure there are things that are slightly better then it on other headsets, but not $600 worth.
You mentioned something that is completely false. I use the HP Reverb G2 in VRchat with the default recommended binding profile and I have complete access to all 8 facial expressions, even combinations of those expressions using combinations of left and right grip and trigger + backwards and forward on right joystick. RUclipsrs and reviewers like you mentioning these false statements about the Reverb G2 and VRchat almost made me steer clear of it, and thank goodness I didn't. The G2 is an awesome device, I've had zero issues, even the tracking is great and I have not experienced any of the issues you've mentioned.
The fact Valve made the Index is what is going to change my mind, I'd much prefer comfort and ease of use over anything else (plus the index is apparently the most comfortable one to wear)
I currently have a rift cv1 and never use it because it is just so horrible. The Index looks great, but my problem with it is all the reports of serious reliability issues it has
Thanks for the video, I'm planning on upgrading my CV1 to an Index. Only thing that worries me is that although steam's tool to check if your pc can run the index says my pc can, I think my graphics card barely meets that requirement( RX580) and don't know if that will be an issue.
I have an RX570 and most VR games I’ve played ran absolutely fine on my Reverb G2, which has a higher resolution than the Index. Just don’t expect to get 90fps super consistently, especially in higher quality games. (also I don’t play that many graphically impressive VR games so take my advice with a grain of salt 😅)
Dude an RX 580 is perfectly fine for VR. Think I'm crazy? I, for shits and giggles, plugged my quest 2 into my laptop (i5 7300hq, GTX 1050 4GB) and got a not great but usable experience with lighter VR games. And that 1050 is more like a 1030 GDDR5 on the desktop. So yeah you're good man!
I got a rift s instead of the quest 2 because of its battery, i dont want to be limited to 2 hours. I mostly play rec room all day, and some other games too.
5:15 This was written seemingly assuming that Oculus Link would never be updated to take full advantage of the Quest 2's XR2, which is EXACTLY what happened. Running Oculus Link w/ a quality USB 3.0 cable these days gives an almost imperceptibly different experience than if you were running it natively over a display output ala HDMI/DP. Aka, the Quest 2 is now SIGNIFICANTLY sharper/clearer in terms of visuals than the Index.
@@mahe4 you are on youtube... be it on a phone, laptop, tablet or whatever. I dont care how careful you think you are, you are already being spied on. The quest is just the next device to do it.
@@i3enj462 it's not so much about being spied on, but what social media algorithms do to people. Watch the netflix documentary "The Social Dilemma". Its a big contributor to spread misinformation and creates depression in people.
@@mahe4 Yeah I've seen the doc. Its fucked up. I dispise facebook and most other social media platforms. But the quest steals your data, doesnt force you to go on facebook. Thats why I said its not much different from owning a phone, just steals different data mostly.
My issue with the quest 2 is less the privacy concerns, and more the fact that facebook can just go "nah your headset is unusable now" at any time, which i'm not okay with.
@Sargent Winter alright lol. could potentially be a port issue. running an rtx 2070 and ryzen 7 3700x paired with 16 gigs. no crashes, and i'm even using the quest 1 cable (albiet Quest 2 headset) which is usb 2.0
This is my favorite video on the channel ! It’s perfect on telling you what vr headset is for you! I’m getting the oculus quest 2 but I think there all awesome!!
i had a plan of buying the valve index but i can't find any on sale. i can only find some on amazon but that cost more for some reasons i don't know about. so should i just buy a htc vive cosmos elite beacuse i was looking for some base station tracking please help me
they increase prices of hard-to-get stuff.. like the g2 at release, or even worse: the nvidia gtx 30 series. the 3070 is listed at about almost double the price recommended by nvidia. as a matter of fact, amazon is nothing more than a parasite. online shopping is anti social, clogging massively our roads which means stress and pollution, destroys more jobs than creating, quietly invading our privacy and intimacy, hardly paying any taxes, refusing workers rights, initiating big political campaigns and putting armies of protesters on the streets to turn political decisions in their favor etc etc.. snafu, i guess
I have the quest 2 as my first headset. And i am really enjoying it . The price is really great for what you get. All I did was get the Audio strap Frankenquest and a 16 foot link cable (don’t waste money on the oculus one, its over priced) . To make the oculus more comfortable because the strap it comes with is so uncomfortable and painful So i have a pretty good PC , but my GPU is old and because of all the scalping i can’t upgrade yet. I have a 1060 6Gb and with the quest 2 I actually can play Half life Alyx at high setting . And it runs pretty smooth. The fact that you can play wireless too is legit awesome, and frankly the facebook argument really don’t bother me. Who doesn’t have a facebook account these days anyways..probably a small percentage of people living in modern society. But regardless What I did is , I setup a new facebook account for solely entertainment purpose and that works fine by me. I do wanna try the valve index tho, to see how different it actually is because if i was to upgrade i was thinking of the valve index or maybe the valve index 2 when it comes out and also because Half life Alyx is my favorite game
I've have just purchased an Rift s (On sale) a few days ago because I wanted to try the VR experience. On the first day i got everything set up with playspace steam vr etc. Then came weekend and I started playing at 12pm, and what felt like minutes was actually hours of gameplay. I've literally got stopped because the sun had gone down and the headset lost tracking of the playspace. When I'm done building my new pc I will definitely upgrade to something better with fullbody tracking. VR is just awesome.
If it's working properly for you, I think you'll have a good time for quite some time to come. (And I actually kinda prefer the slightly smaller touch controllers of the Q1 and Rift S, getting used to it, but still)
everytime i watch videos like this i feel really sad the rift S is pratically the only headset avaliable where i live, and if i adjust the prices it would be about 1000$ (no joke) and then lists like this really breaks me, like i really want a quest 2, or the index that i wanted since it was announced not only are prices just absurdly high, they are sometimes just flat out unavaliable for purchase
"worst issue other than needing a facebook account" uh no i think that's the worst issue and is a complete deal breaker for the Quest 2 for anybody that has managed to abstain from having a facebook account.
Ahah! It was my first thought too! Nevertheless if Facebook is forced to sell Oculus, then forget the low price of Q2. The latter just covers the production costs. Facebook makes profit through data mining, that's the reason why you're forced to subscribe facebook. And even through add-ons like elite strap, face gasket, link cable and so on, they are sold at very high price. The new Oculus company would have to sell Q2 at the real price, at least 400$, 450$ with decent strap and 500$ with decent audio. For 100$ more you have the G2, actually the best headset so far for quality of display and audio.
If you are looking for glasses friendly then I would recommend you HTC Vive. Recommended by www.thevrgen.com/best-vr-headset-for-glasses-buying-guide-and-reviews/
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I would insta cop that just sayin XD
the elite strap has restocked on the oculus store and can be purchased right now
I never new you could play oculus quest 2 with out a head set 11:25
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"The quest 2 is awesome. It plays games without a headset..."
Wut
@@j63636 he didnt stutter
@@j63636 He also said it plays game without a headset, what marvelous technology
Must be some kind of brain implant or nanite injection that interfaces with your central nervous system and forms a USB port on the back of your head.
I'm not comfortable with Facebook having this technology.
(Upon further consideration, I think the USB port would form somewhere on the face. Because _Facebook._
I noticed that and I came to check the comments straight after I heard it
It all happens inside ur head
this video just told me in five different ways how the rift s is crap
I don't really understand. The Quest 2's higher resolution is not only harder to drive in general, but the compression will introduce a performance overhead on your pc. For people that only have a midrange PC, say something like a 1070 for example, a Rift S might just have the more clear experience.
I think a Rift S is still worth it for someone who's on a budget with a midrange PC and who only cares about PCVR
@@jatoxo thats not how resolution works
@@jatoxo then turn the resolution down
@@jatoxo The performance overhead should be non-existent if done correctly, as real-time video encoders are on nearly every modern graphics card from AMD and nVidia. Once zero copy mode is enabled on those cards even H265/HEVC should be no problem with near zero performance loss.
What I don't understand about the Quest 2 is why it doesn't have the ability to use DisplayPort over USB-C if you have a capable graphics card.
Rift S is actually great, but Oculus made it crap with bugs. I own a Quest 2 but I'm still currently using my Rift S since it's a whole lot more comfortable and I don't have to worry about battery life. Keep in mind I don't buy any Oculus exclusives.
If I trust anyone with a VR buyers guide... it’s this man.
missing pimax and old used vives...
Agreeing noises
I agree
@@noisafuzol4028 both of those are absolutely terrible options
Agreed
Thank you, the defining factor was price in my decision.
*I’m getting a Google Cardboard*
Please dont
Please don’t
well it takes a phone so it might be actually a very expensive headset
Ok, the google cardboard being your option just made me exhale VERY fast
Please don’t
The average of each placement, or in other words, over all ranking of the headsets is as follows
1: Index, with an average of 4.25/5 for placement
2: Reverb G2, with an average of 3.25/5 for placement
3: Quest, with an average of 3.50/5 for placement
4: Cosmos Elite, with an average of 3.00/5 for placement
5: Rift s, with an average of 1.25/5 for placement
Hopefully this is helpful
I think you might’ve mixed up 2 and 3 😂
I know the Quest 2 is durable but god damn did I have a heart attack when you just dropped it on the ground
I dropped it down 5 stairs on hardwood floor i was scared to death
I accidentally banged my controller on my dresser and I got so scared
I got mine in a fed ex box...
@@alfiesmith2021 based on a true story
Just don't drop it and try to catch it by grabbing the cable. I tore my USB plug from the Cable and broke the power supply of the Quest 2.
Already got a quest 2 and don’t want to upgrade but I’ll still watch cause THE CONTENT
Bro same
same but with a valve index
Same but mine is in a box with wrapping paper
@Lucky Ducky about your life
Looking forward to quest 2 upgrade over my quest 1 for wireless pcvr play
It's amazing how the index still manages to be the best headset 2 years later.
Given not durability wise but generally the best headset
thank you very cool furry man.
Yeah after doing some googling I found it surprising that the index is still so dang good
I actually wouldn't take an Index over a Quest 2 personally, but I'm a bit of a resolution snob. IMO, the Index's wider FOV & better built-in audio just aren't worth giving up literally 50% of your pixels for. 🤷♂️
The Quest 2 is just on a COMPLETELY different level when it comes to sharpness/clarity, even if its image field is notably smaller. Thus I see the Index as one step forward but two steps back. ESPECIALLY when you consider that those much fewer pixels have to be stretched out over an even larger, wider area.
I totally agree with Boz (head of Meta Reality Labs [aka what used to be Oculus]) in that pixel density (at least up to a point) is FAR more important in the immediate future to VR immersion than increased FOV.
HTC made the right choice to prioritize resolution over FOV with the Vive Pro 2 and I'm hoping that Meta does the same w/ Quest 3 (sure, a moderately higher FOV would obviously be nice, but not if it comes at the expense of additional pixel density!)
@SomeChristianDude I'm genuinely surprised how many people still have this sentiment. You can just use a dummy FB account and then sideload a tool that removes anything FB related. It's not that difficult and worth it if you want high res PCVR for cheap. I've moved on from the Quest 2 to a HP G2 but I've never had problems using a dummy FB account and using the FB removal tool with Oculus Link.
@@Cooe. i am with you on that, i am a resolution snob, i used a mixed reality headset with the same resolution and hated the viewing experience compared to the quest 2. My prorities with a vr display are
clarity
refresh rate
fov
Feels good to know that my headset is completely obsolete now 🙃
- Rift S Owner
Cosmos owner here, not perfect but worth considering. It is my first headset though so take that with as big a grain of salt as you feel neccessary.
@@unknown_-ed2rs is Rift S really that obsolete? For $150-200 starting to get into VR, I don't think its that bad. If anything...VR as an industry has always been getting the short end of the stick in development
@@NopeKickEm it's not necessarily obsolete, but isn't nearly as good as other PC VR headsets (although that isn't its goal). You would be better off buying a quest 2 and using link if you want oculus hardware or are on a tight budget. I would recommend the cosmos, but I am a little biased as the cosmos is what I have.
same
@@NopeKickEm i starterd with a rift S it lasted me 1,000 hours and is a good starting headset, i don't have that good of a pc and runs well
It's kind of nice now that there's several options actually tailored for different kinds of people. Like if you're on the fence, The Quest 2 is the gateway drug. Then I'm sure given time, you want to get into full body tracking and then next thing you know you're slapping down a thousand dollars for a valve index.
A friend of mine who uses an index actually bought a quest 2 just to try out, he now lends it out to people to convert them to VR (it worked on me as I now have an index too!)
Literally my vr journey in a nutshell
as a quest 2 owner, it ain’t, it’s good enough.
I have a quest 2 for pcvr right now and im definitely going to upgrade to the index when i can
Yeah I've had my quest 2 for about 7 months or so and I didn't use it that much in those 7 months. But man when I was having a bad day and decided to go hop in VRchat... best decision I've made in a long time lets put it that way. I've now been playing VRchat almost every day since that bad day happened.
Edit: And because I use it for PCVR I am going to get the index and vive trackers.... and maybe some other things for VR as I'd rather spend my time in VR chatting with folks than spend my time in a shitty looking shed with no one to talk to.
11:26 "the quest 2 plays games without a headset"
daddy zucc beams content directly into your brain
hahahah without a headset lol too much headset he got confused lol
Nani?
experimental headsets made Thrill Seekers brain go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Wut
I love that he takes off the hentai sticker covered front part of his index when he makes professional videos like this
Would have been better if he kept it on
I was wondering why the front wasn't on
He has the Front off all the time, because of the heat the Index produces, if using 144hz with Cover and relatively high brightness it just overheats.
@@nxy6123 I forgot I made this comment
@@ummjoe yes, i love to comment old comments because of that
If you don’t got a pc get the quest 2
Me: well ok am done here
My quest 2 didn't last 30 days. Rip off
@@brsproductions6117 i bet you threw it against 3 walls and shit on it. Ive had it for 5 months andhave had no problems with almost daily use.
@@cryptokingnftlover1109 yeah
Quest still down man sure wish fb didn't suck so much ass
@@Random6IX I'm waiting for a controller to arrive they claim will fix mine I haven't been able to play since March 12th or so and I got it march 3rd. I don't expect the controller to fix my problem though.
Seems the Index is still (specifically of properly commercially available headsets) the go-to headset for the most 'complete' VR setup. The price can't be ignored though and the fact that it isn't sold in some major regions (RIP Australia) is a negative.
To summarise as simply as possible, it seems that the Quest 2 is the best entry level set, while the Index is the best enthusiast set.
Yeah thats what I did. I have a quest 2 right now and after experiencing the wonders that is VRchat I am DEFINITELY selling my quest 2 (or maybe not idk) and getting an Index. Not that the resolution of the quest 2 is a trouble for me (I use airlink so I can have a very long play time tethered to the stock charger) as my PC is very powerful but after hearing that the index has almost no noticeable screen door effect, like, SIGN ME THE F UP MAN!
Waiting for a solid non-fb standalone option... wish me luck
have fun waiting buddy, I'll be enjoying my quest 2
Just got me an oculus quest 2, its really nice
My fingers are crossed for us that 2021 will be the year 😁
@@damisifaluyi5842 enjoy having your life broadcasted to advertisers.
@@cheddalan2475 dude your on the internet rn everything your doing is being broadcasted
*Finally, I’ve been waiting for this video. Glad it’s finally out*
There's like, not a single reason for the text to be bold but ok
@Lucky Ducky K.
@Lucky Ducky Yeah btw looking at the type of content you make, I don’t think your in the position to call anybody kid.
@Jonas. 90 no one cares about your life
@Jonas. 90 shut up
rift s just arrived and im watching this video. ouch
EDIT: I’ve had my rift for a nearly a week now and already have a good 20 hours in vr most of it being vr chat. I’m very satisfied with the quality of the screens and headset. I’m able to be in vr for ages compared to my og quest.
I got one last month and I still enjoy the headset as much as I did then even after watching this video haven’t had any bugs or anything with mine
It's still a functional headset! Have fun in VR!
Just got one in October, myself and it's been a blast!
bought one brand new earlier this year cuz of covid, I have 100s of hours in vr and and haven't had any problems with the headset itself at all so far so rest assured 👌 it's still as fun as vr can get tbh
@@morallyconflictedtortoise6494 for sure makes me feel better that a good amount of people have nice things to say about it. I will for sure!
I ordered my valve index the day before yesterday I am so excited
I have an Oculus Rift S and the whole time I’m just thinking: “I know it’s trash, that’s why I’m here” lmao
Trash? .....tf
@@MrJohnny05 You right, not trash per see. Just bad compared to the rest.
it's defo not trash nor bad, but it just doesn't make sense to buy a rift s right now when you can buy something for cheaper or the same price that is better
I love my rift s I think the quality is good and it doesn’t lag too much but people for no reason go out of their way to hate on you for having a rift s
@@chikalikedis8170 Yeah well isn't this how any PC hardware goes? Also doesn't help that Facebook owns Oculus. I just bought a Rift S cheap on Ebay so I don't see why hating on it now does anyone good.
This is just him shitting on Rift S 🤣
How to you shit on rift s if rift s is shit?
I ordered a rift s last year but later cancelled it due to late shipping because of covid. Best decision I’ve made in my life ;).
@@mashy712 it’s like when you have a quick succession of shits and some land on top of each other
@@kingwillthe1st753 Alright now i have an image in my mind
@@kingwillthe1st753 Thanks alot the image isnt going away
Haven’t had a headset since the original oculus rift and just got the quest 2. The change in quality is amazing and I can’t stop using it. Love the choice to play standalone or pc as well as having inside out tracking since I’ll be going back to college in a month and can’t set up any base stations there. Also the jump in lens quality has made vr so much better and I’m starting to play it way more than I used to.
Me who bought Rift S early this summer: 👁️ 👄 👁️
👁👄👁✊🔜
rut roh
i got one right before quest 2 was announced lol.
Rip
I got a quest for 500$ before the Quest 2 was announced...
@@sillygoofymarran thats gotta hoit
Quest 2 is like the Nintendo Switch of VR, you can play it standalone or connected to a PC.
Nintendo Switch: Sell your soul to nintento.
Quest 2: Sell your soul to facebook.
@@dragonandavatarfan8865 lol
@@dragonandavatarfan8865 Nintendo is far less evil than Facebook. The worst Nintendo does is overly aggressively protects it's products. Facebook stalks you and sells your data.
@@johnbuscher and the online is not free and it’s still sh*t
@@johnbuscher gtfo out of here lmao you are like caring about your privacy and still using google services 😬. I dont even think you know what Tor browser is.(you will google it ik)
Hmm 🤔 I think I’ll buy the quest 2 as I honestly can imagine that there is gonna be huge improvements to vr in the next year and will be a good stepping stone.
if youre on the edge of getting a quest 2, get it. it is amazing, and with vr cover it feels so good.
Welp, guess it’s time to go beef up my PC
Damn right front facing Phineas
im running a 1070 and ryzen 5 2600x with an index, so it should be good in case you care if you have that kinda hardware. otherwise, move it up (i still use my og vive over the index still until this day anyways, index sucks for comfort for my glasses, sad day)
@@mastersergant1287 What refresh rate and resolution do you play at? I have an overclocked 1070 with a 3700x, I wanted to upgrade my GPU but can't really do that for obvious reasons. I would love to get something like the reverb g2 but I don't think my PC can run it well, same with the Index.
@@misterragnar2521 your PC could run valve index resolution fine, you might need to worry about refresh rate
@@mastersergant1287 i run a 5700xt and 5 3600x
Still holding hopes for decagear! Also still waiting for the seeker vrcover, taking its time
Yep, I'm definitely bying decagear headset when it comes out
Same I can't wait to see it in 2 weeks as they say the bloggers edition is almost done.
@@Antonio-zm8ig Really!? Well I'm hyped
@@-unitspectre-619 IF*
Decagear will be awesome unless it's tracking is another cosmos. Though, it will use an older type strap and has no audio solution so it won't be as comfortable as others, but then again, at 450$ it's cheap.
the quest 2 can now use air link instead of virtual desktop for wireless pc gameplay.
I got my Index in April after 4 weeks of waiting I knew it was the headset to go for in 2019 after looking around on alternatives for a year.
What can I say, still get updates and improvements to graphics and usability I can play for hours in a game like "Into The Radius" and "Walking Dead: Saints And Sinners".
Since I am interested in technology I still watch Thrill amongst others and the sweet voice of "you made the right choice" whispering in my ears.
I'm just gonna wait until the decagear comes out to see if that's any good.
That won't come out until summer of 2021, and COVID-19 will probably be over with by then since there are vaccines out now. Do you really want to miss out on half a year of VR gaming waiting?
@@nervaproject I don't, but I don't like the compromises on all the headsets out right now. The Index is too expensive, the Reverb G2 doesn't have a great range of tracking because of camera placement, and the Oculus Quest 2 has *facebook* .
@@PNolandS
I don't think the Index is too expensive. The Index headset itself only costs $500, which is typical for a VR headset.
The added price to the Index is for base stations and the awesome Index controllers, which are light-years ahead of what anyone else has on the market. They cost $500 because they're the best, and they're worth it. They are so worth it that other headset producers like Pimax, JVC, and HTC Vive are making their headsets compatible with the Index controllers or in some cases selling their headsets bundled with the Index controllers.
This means if you get the full Index kit now and then a few years down the road a new headset comes out with a huge FOV and resolution, there is a good chance you'll be able to use your Index controllers and base stations with your headset upgrade. So about $500 worth of your $1000 Index purchase gets carried over to your next headset and gets re-used, potentially... adding value to your NEXT virtual reality headset purchase.
The $1000 price tag looks a lot more reasonable when you consider half of it potentially gets re-used on your next headset purchase.
@@nervaproject I get the controllers are good, but given that im about to head off to college next year im going to be moving around a lot for the foreseeable future. No matter how good the controllers are, they're just going to be more trouble than they're worth (for me).
@@PNolandS More trouble than they're worth because of the price, or more trouble than they're worth because of the need to set up base stations and stuff?
Also, if you're going to college next year, that sounds like a good reason to play VR right now... because you won't have time when you start college. And you don't want to be distracted with thinking about or playing on a VR headset while you're in college. (Trust me I know from personal experience... the desire to try out VR can screw up a semester). It's better to play whatever games you want to play before you go so that it won't distract you and you can "get it out of your system" as people say.
Are you starting in Fall of 2021?
I'll just wait for Facebook to go to court then buy the Quest 2 lmao
Eh doesn’t really matter, they will just release a patch out for all the quest 2’s to not use Facebook accounds
Waisted Sausage Hopefully soon tm. I’m not sure they would do that on their own though, it’s Facebook.
@@ZetaMAGES Yeah but you got to think realistically, they aren’t just gonna do that as it’s illegal to have accounts getting banned for (No reason at all) it’s because of the bots thinking the Facebook accounts are just troll accounts as they are not getting used where they are actually getting used by the oculus quest. It will be fixed soon, I’ve heard people are getting their accounts unbanned as of next week.
Waisted Sausage Oh that’s good news fortunately. I’m just really looking forwards to some good news regarding the Quest 2, and not just the specs and how good it is.
Selling data isn't illegal but ok
What old people think vr will do to your brain: 1:20
i love the rift s, its comfortable and i was uninterested in installing a bunch of base stations in my office and hiding the wires
lol true plus it's ugly people will ask wtf is that & ask are people actually buying that?!?! *Me* Yeah, unfortunately.
11:25 (Quest 2) “plays games without a headset…”
-Thrill
2021
when you are watching this an already have an index and are not planing on getting another headset
Lmao, I have a vive, vive pro, and quest 2. I'm just watching this since it's a ThrillSeeker vid.
when your index is months on backorder ..
gixer912 I waited 1 month and 3 weeks to touch my valve index
@@gixer912 when you just got a Pimax 5K and sets you back $1000... true story
1:21 for sure thought my pc was giving its last breath
I'd consider getting an index if I wasn't scared about quality issues
The technical support is spot on, you get your headset changed very fast in case of any problem
My Knuckle broke just some days ago, I contacted them and in 1 day I've sent them the controller and apparently I'll be receiving a completely new one, so yeah the support's really good but becareful if you play something where you're supposed to punch real hard breh.
I think it was a problem of the first production batch. I think that actually many problems are solved, in particular the controllers drift
@@frenzy2101 Their support is great, but that doesn’t matter when the warranty ends. I don’t want to be stuck with a broken headset after a year that I can’t do anything about
@@videogamesart8057 I think I’ll wait for the index 2 to see if they have the same quality issues as they did last time. If they don’t I’ll probably get that
Crazy how much has changed over only a year. Seamless wireless pcvr with the quest with 120hz refresh rate kind of makes it the only option at this point. And in my opinion, with the higher resolution, high refresh rate and wireless play, the quest 2 basically blows the index out of the water.
In my experience the quest can be extremely hit or miss. My mom’s headset had a damaged fan out of the box that still functions, but only enough to prevent a fire hazard. It gets really hot and makes a loud noise. My brother’s headset lags to death on the home menu so hard he’s actually been put off turning it on and having to deal with the lag. It goes away completely when he gets into a game. And my headset works generally okay, but has some weird performance issues especially when recording, and also is pretty much useless for connecting to a PC. I’ve tried several cables, have an extremely capable computer, and still the resolution is so potatoed that I can literally count pixels of an object that’s two feet away from my face. The distance resolution scaling in a lot of pcvr games also brakes dramatically when I try to use the quest, meaning that if I’m trying to play something like Microsoft flight simulator, I can only go to airports I’ve been to several times before outside of vr, because I literally won’t be able to see the damn runway as anything more than a black shitstain until I get too close to pull out of any kind of landing attempt. All around, just a really poor experience with these headsets. All of these are relatively new (my mom’s has the most glaring issue and is also the newest), and they’re all relatively low-use. They just kinda arbitrarily suck. Obviously all just my experience, but I’m excited for a future when I may be able to try a new headset, especially a valve index. The native res might be lower, but because of the weird problems my headset has with pc, I guaranteed it will be a night and day difference in the actual resolution.
Sound quality, controller tracking, no compression, headset comfort, steam integration... The Quest doesn't blow shit. It's a 3D printed piece of plastic.
It's great value but definitely not better.
In FOV with the G2 and Index, it doesn't matter too much because in video games you focus more on a certain object or objective. Peripherals help a lot, don't get me wrong. Being able to see a combine in Half-life Alyx 10 degrees farther to the right or left will help, however most people aren't trained enough to notice and react to that sort of stimuli to the eye. Another thing about the G2, it doesn't need a 2080 Super in order for it to be super clear. The headsets do have their own processors to help with their own individual resolutions. You may be able to run the G2 resolution on a 2060 super and allow it to be super clear. The only thing that would hinder it is the graphical fidelity. It can still be super clear but have worse graphics.
im getting the quest 2 for christmas and im so excited!
You should beeee
Same here, I've only ever had a psvr and I hate it so I'm pretty excited too!
Hello Releric, the Quest 2 is the best economic experience you can get out of all of these. And if you want the PCVR experience by getting a gaming PC and using Oculus Link or Virtual Desktop to do so it's very good.
Of course technically speaking if you're a hardcore VR enthusiast you would get the Valve Index or HP Reverb for the best graphics fidelity in PCVR.
But the Quality control on the headset and controllers for Valve Index is an issue. Thrill Seeker has done a video explaining this saying he's had to replace them twice in periods of 6 months.
Also the HP Reverb doesn't have capacitive controllers. Meaning they can't sense individual finger movements when you touch them like other manufacturers provide.
And both Valve Index & HP Reverb require stationary camera sensors and aren't portable like Quest 2. It just adds to the experience being able to share VR so easily with friends and family members.
In my opinion Quest 2 is the best all around bang for your buck considering these factors.
Let me know if you have any questions as I am a Quest 2, HTC Vive, and previously Quest 1 + Rift S owner. I also am heavily involved in the industry as demo VR for a major tech through a Brand Ambassador company.
Sameeeeee
same!! i’ve been binge watching these types of videos for fun lmao
I bought a Rift S 2 months before the Quest 2 came out... still happy though
i just got my hp reverb g2 today and was so exited. now i feel like i have to get the base stations and the valve controllers to make it feel right tho.
Does this actually work?
@@donaldcedar7574 Of course it works. Controllers work separately from headset.
@@Herbertti3 don't act like that's obvious. Everyone knows you can't use playstation controllers on an Xbox and vise versa.
I don't know what I would buy in 2021, because it is now Oct 2022. LOL
I have bought just recently the HP Reverb G2 V2 headset and still evaluating this product. Even with that headset insert removed to get eyes closer, I still see a small area sweet spot which is clear and outside of the sweet spot the rest of the lenses are fuzzy or blurry. My IPD is 60, so I am at the bottom of the manual adjust of the headset.
My Rift S has better clarity on the lenses than this HP headset.
How close to the lenses do we have to get to not see this effect?
Anyway, that is my take on the newer HP Reverb. Unless I am doing something wrong. I don't think so. Take care.
The HP reverb has a signifigantly higher resolution over the rift s, surprised you didn't see that.
Yeah agree the sweet spot on the G2 is awful... Then you add to that everything outside the sweet spot is kinda blurry for some reason.. All this adds up to "well technically it has a decent field of view but actually it doesn't" ... I went back to a samsung plus headset and even though the res kinda sucks.. the it looks better in my opinion because wider fov, Oled panels , and clarity is even though out the lens...
@@Justfillintheblank That's not what he means the Reverb is kinda blurry out side the sweet spot for some reason...
I love my Rift S.
I can not understand qhy you rank teh rift s so low.
11:27 The Quest 2 plays games without a headset? Lol
VR 2.0
Yup, definitely the best bang for your buck
That'd be so sick though
zucc daddy be beaming them into our brains
@@Dragonrage1oo1 I don’t doubt it
The quest 2 is the best right now for me because I can play pcvr wirelessly with that price with everything else on top. The index is amazing but for the price it needs to be undisputed. I wish a new index would come out next year with a higher res and wireless capabilities.
but could people run higher res at 144 hz?
@@clownavenger0 you can do 120hz on the quest but the resolution makes it really difficult. On top of that Link at 120hz has even more compression artifacts
Hear me out, you can do full body tracking with a Kinect and some software all for 30 bucks for the quest 2.
Not worth it with SlimeVR on the way.
I already have a kinect along with an xbox i dont use, so maybe i can sell the xbox for like 100 dollars(since its an old xbox) and keep the kinect of it then save up for a quest two AND BOOM I GOT A FULL VR SET UP FOR 200 DOLLARS
a question for Tuesday Newsday How does the qualitycontrol On the elite strip going And when Can I be sure To buy one without it breaking?
@William Lauborg I can answer that the elite strap is amazing it is very durable although over time it does ware if you treat it nicely then you should have no problem
Also oculus stopped selling them for a little while
any update on the G2 tracking? index is not available in my country, and I'm ready to upgrade my quest one and only play PC VR games.
I mainly pay pavlov and Skyrim VR these days
Just got my G2 a week ago...people really made it sound like the tracking was terrible but after a week I've honestly had no complaints from a variety of games. Is it the best? No, but certainly it is worth the high resolution you get with the G2. It's an awesome headset.
@@thomasm208 thanks for the reply! I guess there are VR snobs like any other thing lol.
I like to watch these videos while i save up for a vr headset great videos 10/10 would watch 10 times over
I can’t believe I thought about getting the rift s over the quest 2
I’ll just wait for a new cheap pc vr if that ever will come
it depends, for me its much more worth it the rift S since now its at the same price and you dont need the cable, unless you want to show the vr in other places its better an easy to use the rift S than the quest 2 since you need a much better pc to run it
@@jaimdiojtar not realy, i use my quest 2 on a pc with a gtx 970 and no issues so far (Played Boneworks, VRChat and SkyrimVR)
without ANY wires ;)
@@jaimdiojtar virtual desktop go brrrrr
@@oreomodz5197 2.4ghz go brrrr
Props for this guy for dropping, kicking and drying VR headsets just to see if they will still be alive after that
I think ThrillSeeker's recommendation against buying the Rift S is right given the options, but it's not a terrible headset, and is currently my preferred headset. The quest 2 may have a higher resolution panel, but this is a compressed image coming through a USB cable vs a raw DisplayPort feed. Carmack said in a keynote that you will always notice the compression artifacts.
While it is easier to put on the Quest 2, it's front heavy nature makes it uncomfortable fairly quickly. The Rift S is a bit tricky to get on just right, but once I do I could wear it literally all day. I could take a nap in this thing with the right pillow haha.
If your eyes fit within the IPD, and your goal is truly only PCVR gaming, the Rift S is the most affordable and most comfortable PCVR headset bar none.
To be honest I'm watching this after buying a VR Headset and I've chosen the quest 2 mostly for the wireless pc vr capabilities, the standalone capabilities and well the price and tbh this guide kind of confirms what I thought before hand, the index is superior but kinda expensive and not as easy to carry around and use in different places + wired while the quest 2 is hands down the best bang for the buck and especially for VR noobs like me a great point to start.
Not gonna lie, the Valve Index looks like it walked right out of the 80's
Looks sick in a way tho
Which makes it even better ;)
@@Raisoko Right?!
What the Virtual Boy cannot even imagine to be.
WAIT I JUST REALIZED THIS WASN'T TUESDAY NEWSDAY!!!
:o
we just not gon talk about how my mans is wearing a facemask in his own house...on VR...?
He hides his face
Thing is between rift s and quest 2 good luck running the quest 2 on a budget gaming pc, meanwhile rift s will be fine. Also better strap, its directly displaying the image so it might as well look very similar while being much less demanding. Sure less features but simpler and easier to run.
Honestly a really good video. I was considering a bunch of headsets and this really helped me see where they all stand.
"If you don't have a PC, your only option is a Quest 2" I guess we don't talk about PSVR here haha
Kaittycat Playstation has vr?
i guess it's just too outdated and you still need a ps4 for it so its not like the quest really standalone but i get what you were saying haha
Sorry but psvr is a not good headset it outdated
@Adon Smith a 7 years old computer
luckily my htc vive never needs the htc software to run, never installed it ever since i owned it new
Thank you so much for making this video! I'm thinking about buying VR and had trouble deciding between the rift s and the quest 2.
I hope you got the Quest 2. The Rift S has now been left to rot.
By the way, the elite strap for oculus quest 2 is now available I think it has been for 2 days or so.
3:00 They use both inside out and outside in tracking. The HMD uses inside out and controllers use outside in.
Using the quest 2 for pcvr exclusively is very underrated, I got mine just for pcvr and it’s great
I totally agree, and with the addition of air link why would you get anything else. Sure there are things that are slightly better then it on other headsets, but not $600 worth.
@@aaronwright6891 my headset stopped being able to be used for pcvr a month ago lmao
@@jeevil42 how?
@@aaronwright6891 idk man I was really careful with it, all of my things tend to last a long time
Thrill ur amazing don’t ever forget
based
@Immortal Bentron who wouldnt be a simp for him
@@cpa4able you mean “biased” right?
11:26 i plays games without a headset ????
aside from that you vid are awsome man thanks.
yea bro you can finally play hla without a headset 😳
@@jordyn. The combine: final boss of 2020
You mentioned something that is completely false. I use the HP Reverb G2 in VRchat with the default recommended binding profile and I have complete access to all 8 facial expressions, even combinations of those expressions using combinations of left and right grip and trigger + backwards and forward on right joystick. RUclipsrs and reviewers like you mentioning these false statements about the Reverb G2 and VRchat almost made me steer clear of it, and thank goodness I didn't. The G2 is an awesome device, I've had zero issues, even the tracking is great and I have not experienced any of the issues you've mentioned.
The fact Valve made the Index is what is going to change my mind, I'd much prefer comfort and ease of use over anything else (plus the index is apparently the most comfortable one to wear)
I currently have a rift cv1 and never use it because it is just so horrible. The Index looks great, but my problem with it is all the reports of serious reliability issues it has
I am gonna get the q2 for Christmas!!!
got one launch day, totally worth it. Try to make sure you get the 256gb version you will thank yourself later!
Nice!! It's so much fun, and if you run out of stuff to do, check out sidequest on a computer, it has loads of content!
I’m getting one too
Gratz
got mine 2 weeks ago - def great hmd have fun ^^
I had a heart attack when you uploaded because I thought it was tuesday already
haha me tooo
Hahaha same
0:53 done by trained professionals. Do not attempt
Chucklathon :)
G2 with index controllers is the only way for me.
Just a heads up.
Quest 2 Elite Straps are now back in stock and being sold again.
Thanks for the video, I'm planning on upgrading my CV1 to an Index. Only thing that worries me is that although steam's tool to check if your pc can run the index says my pc can, I think my graphics card barely meets that requirement( RX580) and don't know if that will be an issue.
I have an RX570 and most VR games I’ve played ran absolutely fine on my Reverb G2, which has a higher resolution than the Index. Just don’t expect to get 90fps super consistently, especially in higher quality games. (also I don’t play that many graphically impressive VR games so take my advice with a grain of salt 😅)
Dude an RX 580 is perfectly fine for VR. Think I'm crazy? I, for shits and giggles, plugged my quest 2 into my laptop (i5 7300hq, GTX 1050 4GB) and got a not great but usable experience with lighter VR games. And that 1050 is more like a 1030 GDDR5 on the desktop. So yeah you're good man!
This video makes me feel bad for being a Rift S user :*(
I don't think it matters to the majority of people what headset you choose, VR is VR
@@CreeperXteo Well, I'll be buying an Index as soon as they make them wireless
ahh don't feel bad if it works for you and you enjoy vr when you play that's what matters. I know tons of rift s users that love their headset.
@@Diiffer Well that's awesome. I think the Index is a great investment for anyone as long as your budget is ok with it
@Lucky Ducky toxic
Facebook must be making good money from logging in with facebook on oculus. With all the problems the facebook login is causing.
At least they’re getting sued for it
@T data sold/information for future ads
@@izakovadia6991 PIHole FTW ^^
I got a rift s instead of the quest 2 because of its battery, i dont want to be limited to 2 hours.
I mostly play rec room all day, and some other games too.
5:15 This was written seemingly assuming that Oculus Link would never be updated to take full advantage of the Quest 2's XR2, which is EXACTLY what happened. Running Oculus Link w/ a quality USB 3.0 cable these days gives an almost imperceptibly different experience than if you were running it natively over a display output ala HDMI/DP. Aka, the Quest 2 is now SIGNIFICANTLY sharper/clearer in terms of visuals than the Index.
Im very amazed that for basically all requirements, a £300 headset like the quest 2 is a solid reccomendation.
and i'm amazed how few people care about their privacy.
@@mahe4 you are on youtube... be it on a phone, laptop, tablet or whatever. I dont care how careful you think you are, you are already being spied on. The quest is just the next device to do it.
@@i3enj462 it's not so much about being spied on, but what social media algorithms do to people.
Watch the netflix documentary "The Social Dilemma".
Its a big contributor to spread misinformation and creates depression in people.
@@mahe4 Yeah I've seen the doc. Its fucked up. I dispise facebook and most other social media platforms. But the quest steals your data, doesnt force you to go on facebook. Thats why I said its not much different from owning a phone, just steals different data mostly.
My issue with the quest 2 is less the privacy concerns, and more the fact that facebook can just go "nah your headset is unusable now" at any time, which i'm not okay with.
Ima just wait until the deca gear comes out to see if it’s good
I just saw this and in getting the rift s BUT at least I can play onward, beat saber and job sim AND half life alex
I do love my half life alyx
You can get all of those games, besides half life alyx on the quest store
You can get all of those games but HLA on the Quest Store, and even for HLA you can use Link to play it, as well as all other Rift/SteamVR games.
@Sargent Winter Lmfao that video was ages ago. Link has improved significantly, especially in the last six months or so.
@Sargent Winter alright lol. could potentially be a port issue. running an rtx 2070 and ryzen 7 3700x paired with 16 gigs. no crashes, and i'm even using the quest 1 cable (albiet Quest 2 headset) which is usb 2.0
This is my favorite video on the channel ! It’s perfect on telling you what vr headset is for you! I’m getting the oculus quest 2 but I think there all awesome!!
i had a plan of buying the valve index but i can't find any on sale. i can only find some on amazon but that cost more for some reasons i don't know about.
so should i just buy a htc vive cosmos elite beacuse i was looking for some base station tracking please help me
they increase prices of hard-to-get stuff.. like the g2 at release, or even worse: the nvidia gtx 30 series. the 3070 is listed at about almost double the price recommended by nvidia. as a matter of fact, amazon is nothing more than a parasite. online shopping is anti social, clogging massively our roads which means stress and pollution, destroys more jobs than creating, quietly invading our privacy and intimacy, hardly paying any taxes, refusing workers rights, initiating big political campaigns and putting armies of protesters on the streets to turn political decisions in their favor etc etc..
snafu, i guess
okay i'll resolve with the quest 2. sounds like it performs, looks, feels, and overall plays well
lmao that pfp
I have the quest 2 as my first headset. And i am really enjoying it . The price is really great for what you get. All I did was get the Audio strap Frankenquest and a 16 foot link cable (don’t waste money on the oculus one, its over priced) . To make the oculus more comfortable because the strap it comes with is so uncomfortable and painful
So i have a pretty good PC , but my GPU is old and because of all the scalping i can’t upgrade yet. I have a 1060 6Gb and with the quest 2 I actually can play Half life Alyx at high setting . And it runs pretty smooth.
The fact that you can play wireless too is legit awesome, and frankly the facebook argument really don’t bother me. Who doesn’t have a facebook account these days anyways..probably a small percentage of people living in modern society. But regardless What I did is , I setup a new facebook account for solely entertainment purpose and that works fine by me.
I do wanna try the valve index tho, to see how different it actually is because if i was to upgrade i was thinking of the valve index or maybe the valve index 2 when it comes out and also because Half life Alyx is my favorite game
Thrillseeker: you need a decent pc with 2080 super
Me: *Laughs in 3080*
Ah, I see.
A fellow Man of "30 Seriuosity", we shall commit.
I've have just purchased an Rift s (On sale) a few days ago because I wanted to try the VR experience. On the first day i got everything set up with playspace steam vr etc. Then came weekend and I started playing at 12pm, and what felt like minutes was actually hours of gameplay. I've literally got stopped because the sun had gone down and the headset lost tracking of the playspace.
When I'm done building my new pc I will definitely upgrade to something better with fullbody tracking. VR is just awesome.
good mixture of presentational skills and technical knowledge.
15 minute video but feels like it's constantly getting straight to the point
"Wow I Want One Of theese" *watches in 240p*
thrill to rift s : u suck
rift s : what about my feelings
Damn, I’m really regretting getting the rift s now. Thanks for the information
If it's working properly for you, I think you'll have a good time for quite some time to come. (And I actually kinda prefer the slightly smaller touch controllers of the Q1 and Rift S, getting used to it, but still)
everytime i watch videos like this i feel really sad
the rift S is pratically the only headset avaliable where i live, and if i adjust the prices it would be about 1000$ (no joke)
and then lists like this really breaks me, like i really want a quest 2, or the index that i wanted since it was announced
not only are prices just absurdly high, they are sometimes just flat out unavaliable for purchase
i have the rift s and ive throw the controllers at my wall haven't broken and also rift s is great still
i’m getting the quest 2 for christmas so i’ve been binge watching these types of videos for fun lmao
What do you think of it so far?
"worst issue other than needing a facebook account"
uh no i think that's the worst issue and is a complete deal breaker for the Quest 2 for anybody that has managed to abstain from having a facebook account.
Exactly why i won’t get one unfortunately
I might get a quest 2 if the lawsuits include oculus. Fingers crossed
Ahah! It was my first thought too! Nevertheless if Facebook is forced to sell Oculus, then forget the low price of Q2. The latter just covers the production costs. Facebook makes profit through data mining, that's the reason why you're forced to subscribe facebook. And even through add-ons like elite strap, face gasket, link cable and so on, they are sold at very high price. The new Oculus company would have to sell Q2 at the real price, at least 400$, 450$ with decent strap and 500$ with decent audio. For 100$ more you have the G2, actually the best headset so far for quality of display and audio.
It doesn’t nothing gonna happen go buy something else simp
Rift S is a great option, the occulous platform is way better than windows mixed reality and it has better tracking and great edge to edge clarity
What about glasses friendly???? I need to know about that the most
If you are looking for glasses friendly then I would recommend you HTC Vive. Recommended by www.thevrgen.com/best-vr-headset-for-glasses-buying-guide-and-reviews/