HOW TO BLACK SATIN WRAP YOUR CAR INTERIOR TRIM! Vinyl wrap you old wood trim without taking it off.

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  • HOW TO BLACK SATIN WRAP YOUR CAR INTERIOR TRIM! In this video I will show you how to vinyl wrap you interior trim.
    I love the interior of my Mercedes Benz E63 AMG, however, the one thing that I always wanted to change was the outdated brown wood grain trim. To me, it just made the sports sedan look old.
    I decided to vinyl wrap my wood pieces to a nice satin black. To me black has always been a timeless color and with the satin finish I think it gives off just the right amount of shine.
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  • @HelpMamaRemote
    @HelpMamaRemote 3 года назад +96

    It turned out really nice. I found this video because I want to add the woodgrain to my vehicle lol

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад +10

      Thank you! And I’m glad you found my channel! 😀
      Adding the woodgrain!?😮...Lol! Nothing wrong with that. 👍🏽

    • @meistsyans6526
      @meistsyans6526 3 года назад +5

      Same but like a light oak wood trim.

    • @brigadeg5955
      @brigadeg5955 3 года назад +2

      Lol me too well update mine lol but this is a great video

    • @adh6712
      @adh6712 2 года назад +1

      Me too! My w212 has black seats and black wood ash trim,so boring.. will wrap with matte woodgrain one day 😁

    • @909Thumper909
      @909Thumper909 2 года назад

      me too!!!

  • @simonranger
    @simonranger 3 года назад +29

    Amazing. Good to see it can be done without moving trim.

  • @roccoreid2842
    @roccoreid2842 3 года назад +10

    Finally someone with taste. The understated black color was a great choice. So many people use funky colors or that carbon stuff and it looks like it's after market (aka cheesy from unqualified designers who think they're artists, but really aren't).

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад +3

      Thanks for the comment and checking out my channel! Yeah, I like more of a “factory” look myself.

  • @LCarr-jx8jg
    @LCarr-jx8jg 2 года назад +1

    Lovely!! Much better than before. Totally cool!

  • @jason.c9773
    @jason.c9773 Год назад +1

    beautiful work man thanks for sharing

  • @RawTheory87
    @RawTheory87 3 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video bro. Gonna be trying this out for sure.

  • @tbates860
    @tbates860 3 года назад +3

    Pretty good that’s an understatement YOU DID A GREAT JOB !!!!!!

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      Thank you very much! I appreciate the comment! 🙏🏽

  • @woahspaghetti6069
    @woahspaghetti6069 4 года назад +20

    These videos are really great! Clearly you are putting a lot of effort into these and are wayyyy underrated. You should definitely make a driving video! :)

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  4 года назад +1

      Thank you very much! I’m definitely going to start doing some driving vids soon! 👍🏽

  • @crmsontd3166
    @crmsontd3166 3 года назад +7

    Keep grinding 🔥 great tutorial 🤝

  • @bigwillielumplump4812
    @bigwillielumplump4812 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, I was looking for some pointers. I've never done vinyl wrap before but I'm pretty confident now that I can do it. Say goodbye to grandpas wood grain

  • @23rd_crellsosa94
    @23rd_crellsosa94 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks my boy 55 amg bout to look crazy

  • @chrissilk341
    @chrissilk341 2 года назад +5

    A really well executed job properly explained. It has given me the confidence to do a woodgrain wrap over the current brushed aluminum trim in my E class.

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад +1

      Thanks 🙏🏽 Good for it! If you mess up just remove it and start over 👍🏽

    • @Packer1290
      @Packer1290 10 месяцев назад +1

      Wood grain wrap? Are you being serious or clowning?

  • @Strawberrycupkaeke
    @Strawberrycupkaeke 4 месяца назад

    This is a really good video !

  • @brianreeves8812
    @brianreeves8812 2 года назад

    Looks great, Man. Very clean and classic.

  • @el5880
    @el5880 8 месяцев назад

    Looks great

  • @CoolMrMusicGuy
    @CoolMrMusicGuy 3 года назад +1

    Awesom video deserves way more views!!

  • @PaulPaid
    @PaulPaid 3 года назад +19

    Good job if that's what you like. I think the wood trim looks much better and adds a touch of class to the interior.

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment! Yeah, wood is definitely classic. I just want/wanted something different. I would love to have the black wood trim.

  • @starlightzz1480
    @starlightzz1480 Год назад

    Wow thank you for this!!! ❤

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  Год назад +1

      You’re welcome. Thanks for leaving a comment! 🙏🏽

  • @luifalcon
    @luifalcon 2 года назад

    OUTSTANDING!!!!

  • @adolfomayor9041
    @adolfomayor9041 Год назад

    Good job, looks great

  • @mygt8a4re
    @mygt8a4re 3 года назад +5

    Nice Job man, you just inspired me to do the wood trim in my acura. Might try a brushed steel wrap. Great vid 👍

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      That’s awesome! Thank you! 🙏🏽

  • @asage5801
    @asage5801 10 месяцев назад

    Love the vid. I have a 2010 E550 with faded wood trim. This is a perfect solution!

  • @maggie_codes
    @maggie_codes 2 года назад

    Great job!

  • @ftochris965
    @ftochris965 3 года назад

    dope 🔥🔥🔥

  • @feelnessreal
    @feelnessreal 15 дней назад

    Nice job. You may have inspired me to fix my car interior!!!

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  15 дней назад

      Thank you! I’m glad you are going to start working on your car.

  • @Hazezoe_
    @Hazezoe_ 2 года назад

    The thumbnail is how I look at my car when I had that woodgrain trim thanks for the video 🔥 helped a lot

  • @dama2803
    @dama2803 Год назад

    Looks amazing. I plan on doing this to my E550.

  • @MB212
    @MB212 2 года назад

    Well done sir!

  • @Pinkielover
    @Pinkielover 3 года назад +5

    wood looks better

  • @Brad5161
    @Brad5161 3 года назад +19

    I've been looking for a video done without removing the trim. Thanks.

  • @JaceEntertainment
    @JaceEntertainment 2 года назад

    Dude your videos save me money 💰 keep it up beautiful work brother

  • @usurper762
    @usurper762 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video! Good result! I have wood trim in my BMW 5 series wagon. I want to cover it in the same way you have.

  • @CreachterZ
    @CreachterZ День назад

    To each their own. 😂
    I want to go the opposite way.

  • @arima3093
    @arima3093 2 года назад

    You’re underrated ash

  • @tigeabenton2174
    @tigeabenton2174 2 года назад

    Cute! I need to get rid of the wood grain in my van. Bought teal vinyl from Vivid about 2 months ago lol

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад

      Thanks! Okay, that should be cool. Good luck!

  • @MLGKrypton
    @MLGKrypton 3 года назад +16

    That’s funny I’m here cause I don’t like my wood trim as well 😂

  • @jminkvihubyb
    @jminkvihubyb Год назад +1

    I'm here looking because I wanted to find out how a wood grain vinyl would look lol I wanna do the opposite of what you did

  • @mrkind6153
    @mrkind6153 Год назад

    Very nice

  • @myyoutubeaccount4282
    @myyoutubeaccount4282 3 года назад +1

    nice job

  • @JazzManMilan
    @JazzManMilan 2 года назад

    Looks great. I'm hoping to get an S class soon too.. might do mine in white.

  • @UndercoverWerbung
    @UndercoverWerbung Год назад

    u got a beautiful car my friend

  • @Packer1290
    @Packer1290 10 месяцев назад +3

    Whoever thought plastic wood was a good idea? Gotta be a boomer thing. 😆

  • @StayCovert
    @StayCovert 2 года назад

    Im actually going to do the opposite to my car. It has black plastic and super glossy piano trim all over the place. Going to replace small pieces with a black/chard/dark gray wood grain wrap. Thanks for this video!!

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад

      That sounds pretty cool. Good luck! Thanks for watching channel and commenting.

  • @huckwalton2307
    @huckwalton2307 Год назад

    Jesus! Thank you for making a video where you don’t take you car apart to do this!! Face palm to literally every other video! Thank you!

  • @FliCarGuy
    @FliCarGuy 4 года назад +7

    Another great video. I’d be interested in you doing an update video after a couple of months to see how it’s been holding up!

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  4 года назад +4

      Thank you sir! Yeah, I will be doing some follow up vids to some of the mods I have done lately to see how things have held up. 👍🏽

    • @TheRealpl0x
      @TheRealpl0x 10 месяцев назад

      and in the end? how did it hold up? Do you still recommend it doing it this way? Nice video btw@@DriveTalkCars

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  10 месяцев назад

      @TheRealpl0x Actually it held up well. I would recommend it if you are looking to change out the look without spinning too much money or having to source a complete set of replacement trim pieces. Also, it the removal of the vinyl is pretty easy and no residue (in my case) was left behind.

  • @homerdadon6363
    @homerdadon6363 2 года назад

    I actually like woodgrain, but the black looks good as well

  • @WepppaLeahx3
    @WepppaLeahx3 Год назад

    How did you do the center console ?? Was hoping you would of showed that part 😫

  • @JG-rt7mr
    @JG-rt7mr 2 года назад

    Nice job as a suggestion try dark color wood wrap

  • @landonvillanueva1786
    @landonvillanueva1786 2 года назад +1

    Hey man I wrap cars and if you want to save some money instead of prep spray use the spray way glass cleaner

  • @tjk_9000
    @tjk_9000 3 года назад +1

    Great video! How has the Vivid Black Satin held up so far? Does it get a lot of fingerprints/oil? Is it easy to clean?

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      It actually holds up pretty well. The only thing is the rounded grooves that my trim has. Some of it isn’t laying flat. But that could be my fault or just not enough surface for the vinyl to stick too. Other than that it is good so far...

  • @donclemons8772
    @donclemons8772 3 года назад

    Looks damn good man!

  • @johng2116
    @johng2116 Месяц назад

    looks terrific. You need to show how to cut the excess. thanks

  • @t0n51
    @t0n51 10 месяцев назад

    And there's me adding wood vinyl to my car trims

  • @keith-gx9gy
    @keith-gx9gy 19 дней назад

    I want to do this to cover my piano black in my car, how does fingerprint show on it ?

  • @PP-py4tn
    @PP-py4tn 3 года назад +4

    I thought the woodgrain would look better before you showed the results. looks nice! good video.

  • @BrianErwin
    @BrianErwin 10 месяцев назад

    how well is this holding up ? my wrap guy said it would fail and slide off over time, especially with excessive interior heat

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  10 месяцев назад +1

      I never experienced any sliding off or issues. Held up excellently.

  • @dave-huston-dublin
    @dave-huston-dublin 3 года назад +2

    Good job, But I prefer the wood.

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yeah, wood isn’t bad. Just wanted a modern/different look. 👍🏽

  • @MattB787
    @MattB787 5 месяцев назад

    This is the easy way, I gotta think that over time it will peel away from the edges. It needs to be wrapped around for it to be durable.

  • @jberry1979
    @jberry1979 2 года назад

    How has the held up to heat in a car interior? I live in south Texas where it gets really hot. Worried the adhesive will break down or it will start to peel.

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад +1

      So all in all it has held up nicely. However there is a part of the trim that has a curved lip on it and it came off a little. But that is more of a issue with the trim not the vinyl.

  • @tbates860
    @tbates860 3 года назад

    I have a Lexus RX 350 can you wrap the steering wheel wood ???? I did order from Amazon Vivid glossy carbon.

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад +1

      I have never tried doing that. But I don’t see why you couldn’t though. The only thing I can think of is over time it might start to lift from all of the use. However, there is a vinyl glue you can get to increase the holding power. Good luck 👍🏽

  • @baldeagle5763
    @baldeagle5763 2 года назад

    i know i'm late to the party here but maybe someone can offer a suggestion. i have a beautiful 96 f150 xlt (medium green top and bottom, silver thru the middle - gray interior. i was going to cheese it up with the wood grain trim until i saw your transformation.
    based on my exterior/interior colors is there an accent trim color some one would be willing to suggest ?
    (...and don't make fun of my 96. it was my buddy's pride and joy until he passed away from cancer - named after him my truck is "Quincy" 😇

  • @aldon78
    @aldon78 2 года назад

    Can I use a hair blower instead? Also can you show how to do it were the Shift stick is. thanks

  • @cybergrindin
    @cybergrindin 7 месяцев назад +1

    Went from Benz to a Camry 😂

  • @stevewasilow5556
    @stevewasilow5556 2 года назад +1

    That looks really sharp, definitely updated compared to that old school wood. I am helping my son who just bought a 2011 E350, black in and out. I really liked the satin finish you chose, it works to give that custom updated look. I was considering piano black like I have in my Macan, but it’s very delicate to keep clean. How have you found it to keep clean? Are you using anything special that you prefer? Thanks for the great video.

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад

      Thanks for the comment and watching the video! Black on black E350, NICE! Yeah, I was going to do piano black as well, but as you mentioned, it gets "dirty" so fast with finger prints, etc. The satin can show oil from hands and forearm, but all in all it is pretty clean looking most of the time. To clean I just use an interior cleaning product. Works well.

  • @eduardomalaquias8065
    @eduardomalaquias8065 3 года назад

    Looks a lot better man!

  • @MrInderpalgill
    @MrInderpalgill 3 года назад

    What’s the song @ 7:05

  • @jonathonbaker-guntang4163
    @jonathonbaker-guntang4163 2 года назад

    I love the wood trim in my E350....However, it has become faded and MB charges $4000 to restore. Rubbing compound has not worked, and afraid to try Brasso. Thank you for the video and idea.

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад +1

      $4000!?!? Yeah that's too much in my opinion. You can purchase new trim for that much. I like the vinyl. And you can always change it out if you get tired of it. Thanks for leaving comment

    • @kirkharris8729
      @kirkharris8729 2 года назад +1

      I have same problem with the burled walnut in my 2012 E350 sedan (W212). After taking off a trim piece and inspecting, I found that the wood "veneer" is micro-thin and is glued to the backing plastic. The veneer is stained. It's the stain that has faded from the sun's UV rays. It would be easy to refurbish if the "top coat" was just varnish, but it isn't. The top coat is "clear plastic" that's 1.5 mm thick. I think the piece was put into an plastic injection molding machine after the veneer and stain were applied to get the thick clear-plastic top layer. There's nothing you can do except replace trim pieces, or "wrap/paint" like shown in this video. Note ...... I just received a court settlement notice about this, where 13 owners took MB to court. You night be able to get partial or full replacement from MB depending on age of W212, and when you tried to get MB to fix it.

    • @larsbambi1575
      @larsbambi1575 2 года назад

      @@kirkharris8729 my 2011 E550 is doing the same! I'm curious to hear how it went... following and please keep updates..

  • @johnsir9720
    @johnsir9720 3 года назад

    Looks awesome, can it be taken off? I want to do it to my leased car

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      Thanks! Yes, it definitely is removable.

  • @pequlatv4814
    @pequlatv4814 3 года назад

    I am looking to get a really cheap 2001 W203 C220CDI, but the wood inside is all scrached up to the point where its worth removing it all together (even if it requires revoing the dash) and wrapping it in carbon fiber looking vinyl. Idk what to do with the seats still but thanks you showed me how to do it even without removing the trim at all. Good job, keep up the nice work

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      Thanks for dropping a comment and checking out the channel! Good luck with the new Benz!

  • @lynle1083
    @lynle1083 4 года назад

    😦👏🏽🏆

  • @ilirlike5694
    @ilirlike5694 3 года назад +1

    can we do it without heatgun i dont have it i want to install on my car

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      You can use a hair dryer. The heat relaxes the vinyl so you can stretch it (not too much) and wrap around angles/curves/corners…

    • @ilirlike5694
      @ilirlike5694 3 года назад

      @@DriveTalkCars thnx bro but have question if we do that outside car and we wash will not be removed from the car?

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      The vinyl is made for exterior use as well. Washing the car normally shouldn’t result in any issue. However, that may vary depending on how successful the application.

  • @MrTacoMan247
    @MrTacoMan247 3 года назад

    What about the heat? If it gets too hot in the car will it just get all messed up?

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад +1

      I haven’t had any issues with the heat. However, I do have tinted windows all around. So results may vary…

    • @MrTacoMan247
      @MrTacoMan247 3 года назад

      @@DriveTalkCars thanks for the update!

  • @spic_islander6503
    @spic_islander6503 3 года назад

    What kind of gloves are you using?

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      I just used regular gloves. There are gloves specifically for vinyl wrapping so you don’t have resistance when applying vinyl, but I don’t have any.

  • @baileyb4904
    @baileyb4904 3 месяца назад +1

    Its look like you did a careful clean job but did u notice how many people preferred the “ before “ with wood over the “ after” without. Im sorry but thats a down grade if you wanted a cheaper car without wood why didnt u buy the volkswagen jetta instead of the BMW ?

  • @MrMattMohler
    @MrMattMohler 2 года назад

    I'm here looking to vinyl wrap my interior WITH wood grain! 😂

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад +1

      😆 It is whatever you like that matters 👍. I am actually looking to replace trim with OEM black wood grain.

    • @MrMattMohler
      @MrMattMohler 2 года назад

      @@DriveTalkCars
      Thanks for the vid, RUclips is my inspiration to get $hit done.

  • @petermokwuah4294
    @petermokwuah4294 2 года назад

    Is that heat gun cordless? If so what brand?

  • @ragoff
    @ragoff 2 года назад

    What about center console?

  • @JustMyFish
    @JustMyFish 3 года назад +2

    You covered up beautiful walnut with dull boring black 🥲

  • @JoseLopez-gz7re
    @JoseLopez-gz7re Год назад

    Fuck im trying to put wood grain and thiis guy covers it 😂

  • @toumassa
    @toumassa 4 месяца назад

    Nice, what are those rims mate?

  • @spinnabenz0
    @spinnabenz0 2 месяца назад

    Tuff

  • @jaygold4467
    @jaygold4467 6 месяцев назад +5

    Are you sick of people who cover up the warm look of natural wood and cheapen the look of the interior of their car?

    • @MattB787
      @MattB787 5 месяцев назад +2

      Natural? To each their own I guess. The wood in a car does not look natural to me.

    • @pokerNGold
      @pokerNGold 28 дней назад +1

      @@MattB787but plastic vinyl is more natural to you? Ok 😂

    • @Packer1290
      @Packer1290 20 дней назад

      What are you driving? A Maybach or something? 😅. I’ve never driven in a car with “natural wood”.

    • @pokerNGold
      @pokerNGold 17 дней назад

      @@Packer1290 Mercedes only uses real wood

    • @joshuas2838
      @joshuas2838 2 дня назад

      Mines faded so you know..

  • @omoniyikaye
    @omoniyikaye 2 года назад +1

    I don’t know it’s just I like wooden in my car thank goodness I only drive Lexus I won’t cover wooden in the car I found them beautiful clean them not cover them.

  • @TheMFStudios
    @TheMFStudios 3 года назад

    Looks great but you know trim pieces come off with a flat head screwdriver and you could have wrapped them put of the car. Would have been faster and easier

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      Thanks! Yeah, I had to redo the front dashboard trim and took it off that time. 👍🏽😀

    • @JimyOfficial
      @JimyOfficial 3 года назад

      the trims pop out and click back on?

  • @allgood4716
    @allgood4716 Год назад

    Looks better before 😂

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  Год назад +1

      Really? Better than the black? 😀 Thank you for your feedback.

    • @allgood4716
      @allgood4716 Год назад

      @@DriveTalkCars best way is to walk into a dealership and see what they are using on their latest models

  • @helpmefixthis9117
    @helpmefixthis9117 2 года назад +1

    Wood trim looked better

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад

      A lot of people say that… thanks for you comment and checking out the video. 👍🏽

  • @pokerNGold
    @pokerNGold 28 дней назад

    I’m not saying it looks bad but the wood finish definitely looks much better

    • @mustanggt35r44
      @mustanggt35r44 28 дней назад

      Personally, I disagree

    • @pokerNGold
      @pokerNGold 28 дней назад +1

      @@mustanggt35r44 you being a Mustang guy, I don’t think you would know about luxury wood finish.

    • @mustanggt35r44
      @mustanggt35r44 28 дней назад

      @@pokerNGold I have wood finish in my car, good try at the personal attack on me; how about that you boast to be a gambler with your account? How much have you wasted?😂 id rather save and invest my shit than throw it away. Certain cars deserve the wood, others don’t look right, some look good both ways, it’s a personal preference, not a personal attack 👍👍

    • @mustanggt35r44
      @mustanggt35r44 28 дней назад

      @@pokerNGold take your gambling addiction and leave chump😂😂

    • @pokerNGold
      @pokerNGold 28 дней назад

      @@mustanggt35r44 I never made a single personal attack. Your RUclips name is literally Mustanggt35 which is why I said you’re a mustang guy. I have nothing against mustangs but they don’t seem like the type of car that would have wood interior trim which is why I said what I said

  • @cleansweepbayarea
    @cleansweepbayarea 11 месяцев назад

    Tacky. Why not get the factory carbon fiber?

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  11 месяцев назад

      Couldn’t find a full set 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @phpalencia
    @phpalencia 2 года назад +3

    You just remove the luxury 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ethanadams2565
    @ethanadams2565 3 года назад

    looks way better than the wood. gonna try n do this on my car

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  3 года назад

      Thanks! I thought so too. Good luck with your project 👍🏽

  • @MrMonkeycharmer
    @MrMonkeycharmer Год назад

    90% of the footage is out of focus

  • @micahwatz1148
    @micahwatz1148 Год назад

    Wood looks better

  • @mihairadupop2491
    @mihairadupop2491 2 года назад +1

    Damage nice interior made it horrible ….

    • @DriveTalkCars
      @DriveTalkCars  2 года назад

      Technically...I didn't damage it. It is just cover with vinyl wrap which is removal. 👍

  • @davidmcglone409
    @davidmcglone409 9 месяцев назад

    You literally debarked a car. 😁😂

  • @garrettdodson6110
    @garrettdodson6110 2 года назад +1

    If you don’t want wood trim then don’t buy a luxury sedan. Go buy a proper sports car with stainless, brushed aluminum, or real carbon fiber. Vinyl wraps, whether inside or outside, are cheap ugly ways to look like a poser And also ultimately ruin the surface beneath the rap.

  • @Viggggggr
    @Viggggggr 2 года назад

    Went from classy to cheap plastic look .....

  • @YTbrichtDatenschutz
    @YTbrichtDatenschutz Год назад

    He just have a bad taste

  • @Ahmed-Muflahi
    @Ahmed-Muflahi 3 года назад +1

    Great You just ruined it, that looks like shit

  • @sadbuttrue.
    @sadbuttrue. 10 месяцев назад

    Nice but....wood trim is way better.