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ORBI MESH WIFI: How to configure it as an Access Point (AP Mode). UNSPONSORED REVIEW & Configuration
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2020
- Got home WiFi deadspots? Poor performance?? Pandemic got you searching for a better, high-performance home WIFI solution?? Check out the Orbi from Netgear! In this UNSPONSORED video, I show you how to configure the Orbi RBK50 system as an Access Point expansion to an existing Router/Modem for maximum coverage and maximum performance. Check it out!
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Just a great video! helped me a lot to fix a problem when my Orbi stopped working when connected to a new modem/router. Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you so much!!!! made setting this up so easy
cool. down to earth and right what I needed.
Thank you. Just setup yesterday and found I couldn't connect my kids game system. There were a lot of confusing help sites came across this video and it's done! We are up and working perfectly w/I 5 mins give or take!
Glad to hear it! And thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! :)
This video was very easy to understand and follow. Thank you. One question... I plug the ethernet cable from the back of my (I'm my case) Xfinity router to the back of the Orbi router, right?
Yes, if you want to use the Orbi as an access point (AP mode), then you'll ideally want to connect the Orbi router directly to the primary router/modem via Cat 5e (or higher) cable to ensure max internet speed capability over your Orbi mesh wifi
I have almost same setup. Fios router in far end of the house, I have a hardline cat5e cable from fios router to office computer in other end of house because wifi sucked up there. Anyway, my plan for orbi mesh is to install orbi router up in office on existing hard line which would be opposite side of house, setting it up as an access point, then put satellite somewhere else in middle of house somewhere between fios router and office. Hoping it works out and your video helped make me more confident in it and setting it up. Just waiting for delivery now. Thanks!
Yeah I think that should work for you nicely! Good luck!
Thanks for your informative video. I have a few questions. 1. Is there any problem if you set your Orbi (in AP mode) with the same SSID as the gateway (the modem/router combo)? It seems to me that this is a better choice. All the networks in the house will be merged into one. 2. To use Orbi in the AP mode, do you must turn off the wifi from the gateway? If you don't turn it off, what is the problem? I am interested to use wifi from all the units (gateway, orbi main and orib satellite) to get better accessibility. 3. To use Orbi in the AP mode, do you have to set the gateway in the bridge mode? If you don't set the gateway in the bridge mode, is there any problem? Thanks.
I also found a video for BRIDGE mode which I think would be BETTER. So you can unplug the secondary modem/router and place were you like! It's mode is Bridge instead of AP...access point.
Really helpful video! Question -- I have an old house with plaster wall over steel mesh lath, so wifi signals don't travel too far. The Orbi RBR850 Router spec sheet says it "can support up to 3 Orbi Satellites." If I turn the Orbi Router into an Access Point, would that allow me to use more Orbi Satellites, or would I still be limited to 3 Satellites? Also, could I build a wifi network with multiple Orbi Access Points (using multiple RBR850 units)?
I think the router module can only support up to 3 satellite modules, regardless of whether its setup in AP mode or not. (Not 100% sure, but is very likely the case) And you certainly could have multiple APs, but keep in mind that they necessarily will have their own SSIDs.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks for the quick reply! Old houses are cool but can also be a bit of a PIA.
@@josephelmlinger7999 I have connected more than 3 satellites to the Orbi Router module before, it works fine. I have found MESH to be a real pain in speed still, so I have decided to use all wired backhauls to each of the AP points (eg stop using Netgear Orbi, as any old routers in AP mode will work).
ive got a rbk53 ac2200 orbi setup. Everything SEEMS to be working, but I can rarely access my orbi router via app or laptop (browser) ; I also have it set up as AP mode, as I have Frontier Fios Modem/Router combo. Do you have any idea why I cannot access orbi router via app/browser? My speeds are fine (Fios is 100/100, and I'm getting 100mbps+ on speedtest).
I haven't set it up for my client yet, but just as a thought I'd say make sure your on your Orbi network when you try to access it.
When you connected your laptop to the router to configure it to AP mode, did you mean to connect the laptop directly to the Orbi router, or the Surfboard router.? I'm looking at connecting my Orbi to a Starlink router so not sure if I need AP mode or not. Thanks for your video.
Starlink! Cool! If the Starlink system has its own router, you'll want to connect to the Orbi router module and configure it to run in AP mode so it doesn't conflict with the Starlink router.
Just a quick question, did you turn off your wifi on the surfboard router or does that remain
You can do it either way. I think for security and for less spectrum contention, I'd recommend turning off the Surfboard wifi, unless you think there's some over-riding advantage not to.
In the AP mode, do I put in the same SSID as the main router?
You'll want to use a unique SSID for the Orbi AP network.
I know this is an older video but just ran across it as I am considering changing my Orbi system from Router mode to AP mode. PSA - don't leak your Public IP like you did in this video.. it shows your IP in the web based Speedtests you run.. wrong person gets ahold of that and your entire network can crumble. Might want to add something to cover those up in the video editor.
Excellent catch! I'm actually surprised no one as mentioned this before. LOL All's well though as that IP hasn't been leased to me since right after I published that video. Still, very valid point!
If you're on an iPhone how'd you cast your phone onto a screen?
I primarily use an Android phone and used an app called AZ Screen Recorder. I'd probably use "Record It!" on the iPhone if I was forced to use my iPhone. hahaha.
Thank you for this video. I didn’t want to use mine as a router either.
I have this same mesh system. Is there a way for me to choose what band my wifi devices go on? It automatically sets them for me as of right now and I don’t like that.
You can - but I think only from the web portal (not from the mobile app). Login from a web browser and go to the Wireless section and there you can select the specific channel for both 2.4 and 5G networks independently (or set them to Auto, which is the default that you're trying to change :P )
My research indicates that Armor Security is a pain in the okole (Hawaiian for you know what). Did you start the trial?
I didn't bother. haha I've got enough other security layers, especially since I'm only using these in AP mode and not as my main router.
What did you do with the satelite?
The satellite is in an upstairs office.
I may have missed it but did you set the SSID of the Orbi setup to the same SSID as your current WIFI router? if you did then cool but if you never then do you have to switch wifi connections as you move throughout the house? also did you hard wire your Orbi Satellites? ty for video #thumbsup
I did not hardwire the satellite, only the main unit. I'm using a different SSID for the Orbi AP. But because the coverage is so good, I never need to use the Arris wifi anymore...just using it as my router/modem.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors modem not router modem,because the orbi acts as your router, don't want to confuse people
Yah. We were lead to believe that the SSID for the Orbi system in AP mode would be the same somehow as that of the legacy cable-modem-router - but that whole point was glossed over and as it turns out - in the end the SSID was totally different (ie based on the comments). I mean. That was the only thing worth waiting for! Oh well.
@@dtrelzmusicyou have confused people with this comment. ReeWray is correct, the Arris is his router, as the Orbi unit is set to AP mode.
Did you have to turn wifi off on your original router? I have had conflicting videos, saying to turn off so you get maximum out of the orbi.
Technically speaking you don't have to, but I think it's a good idea to turn off any Wi-Fi that you're not actively using because all it does is create more potential contention for bandwidth, not to mention unnecessary security entry points
Nice and usefull video thx! Have one litlle question though... What's the benefit of setting the orbi to AP mode instead of Router mode? I have it set to router mode wired on my standard modem/router. (wireless function off) thanks in advance!
I only originally set it up on AP mode because I already had a router/modem combo that I wanted to keep in place. I've since put in a new modem provided by my cable company and removed the old router completely. The main Orbi is now my router, so I'm not actually using AP mode any more.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors okay thx for the quick answer! I asked it because I'm not totally satisfied with the connection between my Orbi router and the satellite on the first floor so does it make sense if I try to setup it in AP mode?
@@HJDV I don't think so, based on what I think you're saying. All AP mode will do is allow you to do is create a mesh WiFi connection to a network maintained by a separate main router - disabling the router functions on the Orbi. So unless you already have another router to act as the main, AP-mode won't help you. It might make sense to buy/add an Orbi Satellite expansion module so you can close the distance between the main Orbi router and the nearest Satellite. They're kind of pricey as add-ons though ($200+)
@@ReeWrayOutdoors okay thx, I already have an extra satellite but can't get it to work properly so maybe I'll try to use the AP mode and give the extra satellite a shot. Thx again!
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Well, everything worked out fine! Turned the orbi router into AP mode and added the extra satellite without any problems. The only thing i had to do was reset the satellite on the first floor. So until now stable connection everywhere in the house. Thx again for your quick anwers!
You can still connect your PC to the Orbi using cat 5e. It acts like a switch at that point. The same is true for the satellite unit.
Absolutely. My wife's tower pc is patched directly into the satellite and I've got a TV patched into the main unit.
Where my internet cable is in, I don't need internet. So I placed a switch at the router and pulled a cable from here to the orbi router and satellite.
If I connect the orbi router to the WAN port, the backhaul with the satellite does not work.
If I connect the orbi router and the satellite to the switch with a LAN port, the backhault will work. And the internet is good. But firmware update via the gui no longer works.
Can you explain that?
When I had mine setup in AP Mode (I've since removed my original Arris router and now use the Orbi as the main router), I only set the Orbi router module to AP mode, and I only had the Orbi router hard-cabled back to the Router/modem via Gb switch. I've not tried setting up a hard-wired backhaul connection between the main and the satellite(s). The manual seems to show it SHOULD be a viable configuration, with or without a switch between the main and the satellite. I wonder if there's a caveat about that configuration when using AP mode. You may have to get Netgear Support to weigh-in on that.
Ever since we got spectrum with a modem/router/wifi in one unit, our Orbi will not connect. Any advice?
If you're using the Spectrum provided modem/router combo, you'll likely have to put the Orbi main module in Access Point mode so it doesn't conflict with the Spectrum router, since in their default configurations, both will be trying to act as the main router which is definitely a problem.
Man i really wished you would have shown how you hooked everything up. I'm really curious to see if AP Mode is good for me but i'm not quite sure how to physically set it up from ISP provided modem/router combo to Orbi router/sat.
If the ISP device is a Modem/Router combo (ie you can't separate them), then you're kind of stuck using the ISP's device and putting the Orbi in AP mode as I originally did. Regardless of whether you're using AP mode or not, a cabled connection (Cat 5e or better) from the main Orbi back to the Router/Modem combo is what you want. You don't needed a cabled connection between the Orbi modules. If you're NOT using AP mode and want to use the Orbi as your Router...AND you can get your ISP to JUST provide the modem, you will HAVE to hard cable directly back to the modem (you can't go through a switch to get to the modem). I ended up doing exactly that last month because I recently had an issue with my Arris router/modem combo and ended up pulling it out and putting in an ISP-provided modem (not a combo device). So I'm no longer using AP mode since my main Orbi is now my Router and not just an access point. But it worked great in either configuration.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors which port of the orbi did you use to connect to the modem router device in AP mode?
The internet port or the normal LAN port?
@@basantgoel3401 when in AP mode, it just needs to be on the same network as the main router so I connected it via a standard port to a switch on my networkm
The orbi router is part of a mesh network? If so once in ap mode will the satlites work or are they nullified?
You still have the benefit of mesh tech when using them in AP mode. AP mode basically just disables the Router and related functions (like DHCP) on the main Orbi module, allowing you to utilize an existing (or higher end) router. But it still acts as the primary for its wifi mesh network. So while roaming the house, you can seamlessly be connected thru a satellite module, and that satellite will route your data back thru the main Orbi, where it is then sent to the designated router (assuming you're not just exchanging data with another wireless host on your network).
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thats great news. I own a Netgear AX4200 3 node mesh system and recently switched to t-mobile home internet 5G. Their gateway has a router built in and it doesn't give you the option to disable the router or bridge mode so I just connected my mesh system into the ethernet port without setting it in AP mode. The internet works great but I feel I may only be getting 75% of what my speeds are. I have over 20 devices tied to the mesh network and the t-mobile gateway/modem only supports 10 at 2.4ghz and 10 at 5.0 ghz. Not sure if AP mode would benefit my situation.
I've just bought an RBK 853. As soon as I put it into AP mode, it lost connectivity to the satellites. Netgear support confirmed that in AP mode you lose the satellites, in effect losing the mesh functionality.
Can you turn the router to be used as a mesh extender (satellite)?
The router unit can either be configured as the router or as an access point (as I showed in the video). I actually now use it as a router and not just an access point (got rid of my original router). I'm not 100% certain about it, but I don't think it can act as a satellite in an existing Orbi mesh.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I did some more research and, indeed, the router cannot be turned into a bridge mesh router... unfortunately.
When changing your Orbi to AP mode do you also have to set your existing router/modem (the surfboard in your case) to bridge mode? Any help is appreciated, thanks!
I didn't have to make any changes on the Surfboard router. Just had to use the web portal for the Orbi and change it to Access Point mode.
Dude, thanks for this video
Try adding a Netgear Nighthawk A7000 usb wifi adapter to the old computer. It sped mine up compared to the older built in wifi card
Good info. Thanks! :)
Is the Orbi router in the same room as the Arris or in separate room connected to switch?
Opposite side of the house from the Arris, connected via Gbit switch and Cat6 cable.
Thank you, last question, does your arris transmit separate 2.4g and 5g channels or 1 like the orbi’s?
@@TL-eu2wd it has both channels, however I have disabled the 2.4GHz band just to reduce the amount of RF noise a bit.
Thank you again! I upgraded my router to the RBR50, but my smart plugs/switches are not seeing the 2.4g signal, their tech support had me power down the 5g signal to 25% but still having the same problem and not so good 5 g signal, I still have my old router and saw your video, gonna try your setup today.
Sorry, definitely last question. The wifi name from your Arris, is it the same you named on the Orbi or different?
If I use Orbi with Ap mode, my telephoned system won't work anymore ?
My Xfinity phone connected to the Xfinity gateway works fine with Orbi in AP mode.
but you must put cable in the ethernet port and not the yellow internet port.other wise there will be issues i think
I've been running the ORBI with 2 satellites for awhile now , I've had no problems with it , my numbers stay consistent from my front lawn all through the house (4700sf) and to the back lawn where I run a WiFi TV and get HD picture - the phone APP is good also and it was super easy to set up with my Xfinity .
My only regret is waiting so long get it. Haha but before my wife started working from home, the crappy wifi upstairs was "the kid's problem" lol
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I know what you mean , I was using the crappy Xfinity equipment before this , it would constantly drop and struggled to reach the edge of my yard , also I make contact for live view with my blink security cameras twice as fast.
I’m thinking about buying this product because my att modem/router is terrible but I was hoping It would be Easy to install without bridging modem
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Didn’t know you had kids till I saw this reply. So that means there are at least 4 devices commonly connected through the orbi WiFi. Has everyone noticed better data speeds while streaming RUclips, videos, etc when everyone is online at the same time or is there a lot of buffering? I ask because I may get the Orbi mesh for that reason (multiple family members on at the same time).
Thank you for a well put together and informative video! Some confusion when you said router but meant modem several times. Can’t re-record, but perhaps some clarification in your description if more people mention it. Otherwise, leave as is - haha. Again, well done and Thank you!
@@MRrwmac thanks for the feedback. I've not had any issues buffering. It's not uncommon for 3 or 4 devices to be connected and streaming video (YT, NFLX, Zoom, Teams, etc) all at the same time. Seems to perform really well.
THanks for the tips! I'm trying to get a connection to the Orbi Router to set it up in AP mode, but, alas....no luck yet!
Does't work for me either.
my router says that I'm still ofline even when it already connected to my modem.. What seems yo be the problem sir?.tnx
Gaby Aguilar you need to contact your ISP to configure the router I think. Good luck.
@@kendalllao it will configure your modem they don't configure your router
Very informative, but when you say it’s just marketing and no one gets the 3gb, you’re right and wrong. They twist it to make it sound great, its 3gbs to multiple devices at the same time
sorry i forgot to tell you that the orbi router and satellite are both set in access point mode
Doesn't work for me either. When I select AP mode, it reboots and then won't connect to my router. Eventually it goes to a magenta light and and I can't access it either via WiFi or Ethernet. The only option is to do a factory reset and try again, which I've done about 10 times now, doesn't work.
hmmm I wonder if we're connecting back to the main router differently (I'm doing it via hardwire) and maybe that's the difference in behavior? I had no trouble at all with it.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Wired connection here two, after about 24 hours I figured it out. It seems that my ISP's modem/router has one of it's 4 ports setup to detect another router and then screw things up. The port works normally for any other device, but when the Orbi was installed on that port it wouldn't connect correctly. After 24 hours, all I needed to do was to move to another port. Then, after I setup AP mode, I moved it right back to the original port as if it's setup as an AP it doesn't do whatever funny business it was doing. Unfortunately, I needed to try every combination of setting and option with a long factory reset/router setup between each test.
@@TimEckel Ports are weird sometimes.
Gigibits
To make a short story long...
any router made of Netgear is waste of money, the software is extremely laggy, anytime you do a very simple change you disconnect everybody for 5 minutes