How does fiber internet work? 0ms ping!
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Fiber internet is the new cool thing in the tech world, but it can get confusing because from country-to-country (even company-to-company), definitions vary. On this episode of Snazzy Labs, we install fiber internet and explain what FTTX means, the difference between AON and PON optical networks, and why Active Ethernet is going to be an awesome solution for us. How to get faster internet? How to get lower ping time? This is how. Gigabit speeds and sub-1ms ping time to the rescue!
This video was 14GB and uploaded in about 5 minutes. I can get used to this...
and yet the output here is not even 2gb at "4k"
youtube should stop labelling quality like this, just show a bitrate slider, their 720p looks like 360p, a 1080p bluray or phone recording looks like youtube's 4k, its a worthless measure of quality at this point
hi
Kind of like what we’ve had in Korea for some years already
It is nice to have a 1Tbps connection, it is a very good 5 people and video uploads. Time is Money for some people. Stay Snazzy.
First thing I did when I got FTTH was open Steam and see the games update in seconds. A 40 Gb game downloaded in about 12 minutes. I went from 3 Mbps straight to 1000 Mbps... I was in disbelief. So beautiful.
Bending the cable was pretty crazy! I think the zeros get through fine because they are round but the ones probably get stuck in the sharp bend.
😂
yeah this guy is obviously a fiber shill, fiber is complete trash. i can no longer strangle people with the cable and watch 8k video on youtube at the same time. unsubbed
Good joke, LOL.
As we all know a zero is worthless anyhow, so i don’t see how that helps.
Well the waves could squeeze through I guess
When your ping is so good you're bottlenecked by the servers of the game company
😎
Rockstar games login servers
I was supposed to be writing that😤😤
Honestly that point comes in sooner. I have 10ms via coax fiber combo to google cloudflair and many other services/speed test.
My best performing game is at 20ms about 400km away in a data center Soo yea the limit of gameservers comes in at about 20ms. MW for example is dogshit can't get better than 30-40ms and even have packetloss sometimes which is stupid.
Eric Zauche It really depends how well the ISP peers with the rest of the world too :P it really in the REAL HARD networking rather than the tiny networking we learn or we usually know. Ping is really complex and the way the traffic is “routed” (BGP, AnyCast. DNS....etc)around the world is so interesting, yet so hard to catch up how those things work so accurately to deliver our text message from one place to other...
Going from 50mb/20mb to fiber is such a massive upgrade! Congrats! I live stream games and work in tech and the first thing I did when I was established on twitch was pay for fiber. I went from living in Wisconsin with 40 - 60ping in most games I play, to 0 - 5ms at all times. It's amazing.
40ping is pretty good
wow!
Which provider do you have?
Bro i though that too but after going to Korea and playing most games with 0 - 3 ping its night and day difference.@@Ryan-si2zb
As a an ex-fiber tech of a couple of years, I loved seeing this video Quinn!
Couple things!
Gigabit is not crazy. I know thats hard for 99% of you, I had dial-up until highschool, 2009. I know. At my job, our PON was running 1Gb down, 250Mb up residential and business 500Mb up, with availability for 10G when we began installing in 2018 from day one. Base price was $99/mo plus install.
When you bent that cable your service didn't slow down, it actually quit. Since the signal is optical-digital it's on or off. The cable might have broke too, I'd definitely not use it and I'm sure you won't. It worked afterwards because it's going a short distance and the break doesn't actually stop the signal dead. the cracks are like the surface of water, light can go through but the signal integrity is diminished. Put a VFL (visual fault locator) laser tester on it and that spot will always glow, but more when bent (light escaping the buffer tube).
Again, very cool video Quinn!
In my country, for $99/month will only get you 100-200Mbps and that's only available if you live in big city centers/urban areas. They have a FUP(*Fair* Usage Policy) which will throttle your internet speed once you've reached a limit. The worst part is that I've seen so many reports about the biggest ISP here that is run by the government(which never be a good thing) cutting down their customers' FUP limit without even noticing. It sucks for people that that is the only ISP available for them and they have to stick with it.
I hope that there will be more genuine private ISPs. I've been jealous of people in the US can get great internet for reasonable money
Trippy Rex wel. The US isn’t even that great when it comes to internet. Yeah it might be cheap, but net neutrality is a big issue there. Also. Countries like japan en Norway are having way faster networks. Netherlands as well. I can get a 10gbit FttH connection for ~$85 a month.
@@TrippyRexTech how does 1 gigabit for 30 usd sound like
Trippy Rex in Canada (Ottawa specifically) I’m paying $112 with tax for gigabit (1 gb down/200 mb up) via coax. FTTH is the same price but they haven’t sent a tech out yet
Here in Finland I could get 1Gbps/1Gbps for 55€/month ($62.58). I live out of nowhere so I don't know what kind of prices bigger cities have
The one thing I remember after watching this video: Microsoft Edge is available for the Mac.
Same
I am at 7:00 and all I remember is that his ISP dug a hole outside which has some cables going to people's houses.
And it's really good.
The new Edge is awesome. Try it
@@TJPactronix i have it
"Internet providers generally dont give life, they generally suck it." Thats an awesome T-shirt right there
i get 2mbps down and 20mbps up it makes 0 sense
Well you can disconnect from internet and don't let your internet provider to continue sucking from you :).
And in the next video, he’s going to visit the ISP 😂
Welll... I suck the Internet... 1G Symetrical at my Server-Side unlimited Datacap blasting out there all the time, welll....
0:46 the "This" sounded exactly like Doug DeMuro's "This."
Who agrees?
He also looks like Doug DeMuro
@@JeffRabbit ikr 😂😂
Give it a doug score
I swear dude I thought I was alone !!
Me too!🤣
"Internet Service Providers don't typically give life, they suck it" 1:05 😂
I live in downtown Valparaíso (Chile) and we had until some weeks only ADSL (Movistar) that "worked" between 8mbps when the line was good to 2mbps with constant cuts when the line was bad, with 0.5mbps upload.
So some weeks ago I was concerned because of another lockdown, so I convinced my family to swith to other ISP (VTR) with HFC 300mbps download but 7.7mbps upload, hoping one day Movistar can provide FFTH in my neighborhood (suspended since 2019 without day of restart due to some local problems and the pandemic 😭).
But at the end it's worth more to have a HFC in hand than a hundred FTTH flying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Snazzy Labs:"we have gigabit internet"
Linus at L.M.G.:"hold my beer"
proceeds to show 10 gigabit internet speed
James Nicholls nasa: I beat you all
basically every household in Europe has Gigabit Internet for a few years already.. yawn..
@@RandomUser2401 Lol!
90suffix where are you living? No we are not even close to that goal! I‘ve 200/50 via LTE and I‘m faster than 99% off all of Austria! (Based on speedtest.net) And based on friends living in Germany for example, they hav 16/1 as a maximum (the whole town has this BTW)
@@RandomUser2401 wtf
Him: _Gigabit Internet_
Me: *Laughs in DSL*
Laughs in SIM Card Router
@@Nico105_ THIS IS ME
@@Nico105_ (You mean a 4G router (LTE router for you americans)
Lol my upload is 0.2 mbps
It's so slow it's annoying
Vdsl speed is actually good!
50 Mbps download
25 Mbps upload
*cries in 3rd world internet speed while watching the video in 480p*
my guy stole the words outta my mouth
3rd class. not 3rd world.
3rd world are non aligned countries,
that includes some europian countries that have high internet speed.
*laughing in 4k*
Watching in 360p ;(
Half the time I'm watching in 144p
I really enjoyed your geeking out, I'm getting 1,000 mbps fibre installed next week (currently have 2mbps) and now I feel better about being so excited.
How did it end up turning out .?
Google fiber is actually 100 Mbps. Thats the max I get on any device. All the videos are lying to you.
Linus with his stadium grade router: well that's cute
a gig or 10gbps i dont think there's much diff if i get to use both of em' coz rn i use 100mbps lol
The in Australia 15Mbps if fast
@shivam singh how and why
Linus needs to compensate.
@@lolspc That's sad, even we got 100 Mbps in India for like $10-$12/month. Australia's internet situation is sad indeed.
"we were stuck with some crappy around 50mb/s down and 25mb/s up"
Me with 2mb/s dsl internet: -_-
You dont know what real slowness is, i'm over here with 500kb/s and on good days maybe 1mb/s
alexn310 that’s certainly bad but I think we can agree we both have crappy internet.
50 mb/s is 400 mbit/s- almost half of gigabit, and definitely fiber at that point, I think you meant 50 mbit/s .__.
Matas Kart i don’t think you read his comment fully...
@@mataskart9894 50 Mb/s = 50 Mbit/s. 50 MB/s = 400 Mb/s = 400 Mbit/s
We get download speeds of up to 1.5 Gbps up north here in Canada with Bell Fiber.
I get 1Gbps with Telus
How much CAD cost?
@@JamesSSWayne around 120$ CAD per month for 1.5 Gbps and less for 500 Mbps both side
@@JamesSSWayne I am paying 85 a Month with telus
Avi Makkar that’s actually pretty good. I got 300Mbps for $50 with Shaw. Not fibre.
I'm certified in professional fiber installation, it all depends on the quality of what you get. The stuff we used in the past could be tied in a knot and would barely add any impedance. Fiber is really freaking cool.
Yeah it is, I run fiber in a data center, and I’ve lost count how many times I’ve had multi mode and single mode fiber knot up during installation and had no issues... though single mode fiber’s tolerance is vastly lower than multi mode
My copper cable does the same and more, and for the end user it doesn't make a difference. Yeah, fiber is cool, but on the last mile there's nearly no difference. Both signals travel with light speed, both signals can easily transport 10 GBit at the moment. Copper will be overtaken in the end, but for the end user there's much, MUCH headroom with it..
Fiber have end radius, you aren't supposed to bend it in half life that.
@@wiziek that's why I said it depends on the quality of the fiber. The stuff ATT runs to your house, don't bend it. The Kevlar protected fiber trunk ran through a community of town homes you could use as a jump rope (not recommended) and you wouldn't see a drop of performance.
@@erebostd depends on the application. I'm running fiber at home because copper won't work with either the electrical noise (many meters in a narrow channel next to 400V power lines) or fire safety code (no low voltage signal cables next to high voltage power cables). Copper is certainly not dead but it does start to run into some limitations at speeds and distances we didn't typically see in homes in the past.
Test your ping using PING in the command line if you want "real-world" results. I think the major internet providers detect SpeedTest and somehow skew the results. Also change the test server to one you know is definitely part of a competing network. You'll see ping increase (though not necessarily by much).
Always interresting to see how different internet is around the globe. I know USA is a pretty huge contry, but I still find it incredible how many are stuck on so slow speeds.
Yeah
I've been using Verizon Fios for several years now and I love. A couple years ago I upgraded to their FiOS Quantum 1Gbps tier. The speeds are symmetric. I don't regret it for an instance. It's so much more reliable than the Optimum Online I had previously. The fiber line actually goes all the way into my apartment to this big box on my wall. From there it goes to my router via a coax cable. This box on my wall is plugged into a power outlet, too.
In Stockholm, Sweden. You can get 10gbit in some residential homes, for ~$50/month. The isp is “Bahnhof”
SUH DUDE looks like I gotta move. Do people speak English there?
THIS IS INCREDIBLE THEYRE ROUTING ALL THEIR TRAFFIC THROUGH VPNS FOR SECURITY AND STILL PROVIDE THESE SPEEDS
@@MegaDrummer112 yes, about 87% or something speaks English lol
Laughs in $50 10 MBPS dsl
@@MegaDrummer112 Lithuania's decent too, not 10 gbit, though I'm sure you'd find someone to provide it, but gigabit is only 20 euro a month and is pretty common. The isp is "Telia"
When you bent that cable one of two things might've happened. one. the light might've been blocked because TIR (total internal reflection doesn't occur at extreme angles, or two the bend caused a slight crack in the cable and when straightened out the light can pass through but not as well as it would've if it weren't bent.
I’m not even doing anything with Fiber, yet I watched the video. I could watch more, love how you explain the smaller details that normally get left out by others.
Network Infrastructure videos: my favorite ones 🤓
Heh :P you seem like you are in the Networking field :P
@@beedslolkuntus2070 But I am - well, not 100% ATM but I've been getting some projects to deploy 🤓
Did you buy the Juniper modem? My install had a DZS and I don't have a fiber out.
Nah, they provided it.
Granted, I’ve been told that’s only for business customers.
@@snazzy Ahhh, maybe I should have signed up as a business customer. Did you pay for it or are you just doing the monthly fee?
@@TechWithBrett lol you got left on read
@@zen608 So did you.
snazzy labs: 1 Gbps internet
meanwhile me: internet that barely hits 1.5 Mbps
Rural American? I feel you, my cousin in NH only has 1.5Mbps DSL, in fact it's been so bad, the town took it upon themselves and are building their own broadband infrastructure to lease out, so in about a year, my cousin will probably have Gigabit for $40/month, wherever municipalities build their own networks, the internet is extremely fast and affordable
We have 3mbps in my house BUT it is shared with 9 people
Mateo José Guerra you’re mexican, huh?
@@post-leftluddite wow that's really nice!!😶
@@59fiftycap ICE is heading right to his house now.
I'm getting 1 gig internet at my house this week. Very excited for it. I'm not sure if I */need/* it, but I wanted to try it out and possibly switch to a lower speed later on.
Wow, I am into the network topic since several years and you literally explained stuff so well, before that you normally had to look up several articles & videos to get the knowledge delivered by your video, well done 👍
@Fredd Colour Green Not really
Feels good to live in country where 1Gbit connection costs ~20€/month. It is so usual in Lithuania that it is rarely surprising someone. But the real problem is users routers. They imagine that they can get same speed on Wi-Fi in any apartment or 2 floors house.
Fibre optic cables are made of 2 materials. The outer one has a different refractive index which causes light to reflect and travel in a zigzag along the fibre. If you bend it too tight you prevent the reflections continuing normally. The first examples were solid glass rods. They just got thinner.
I switched to 1.5Gbit download and 1Gbit upload fiber internet about 5 years ago and never turned back. This feels like normal speed for me now and 10Gbit seems like a incremental upgrade. But honestly beyond 1Gbit isn't really utilized in most scenarios and 10Gbit would require more complicated equipment and 2.5Gbit ethernet ports on your devices to take advantage. But obviously in the future everything will start to use more and more of fiberoptic connections throughput. So 10Gbit is good future proof... but the great thing is you can simply wait until that day comes and your ISP can upgrade you to 10Gbit with a phone call.
3:49 My man rocking Juniper gear?! That's nice enterprise gear.
Yes, the fiber cable that you are using is a big diameter cable. In the other hand, when you have really thin fiber cable, its most likely to break because you bended it too much as seen on the video. Same goes for the copper cables, if you bent it too much the connection will be horribly slow or not even making it trough.
"How does fiber internet work?" very fast. thanks for watching!
Getting fiber internet installed today at home and I had to watch this to get HYPED!
Been installing fiber for av distribution for years, that bending had me freaking out. It's glass inside there, and once it's broken it's broken, don't try this at home
"Internet Service Providers don't typically give life, they suck it..." subscribed.
when your internet was faster than a big tech youtuber connection
kevlar strands surround the fiber in the cable, it helps with crazy bends but can still break
. Also the bending of individual fiber help locate fiber when splicing in a case out doors.
imagine if someone breaks/cut that fibre cable that's outside the building .
it's not that hard to imagine.. your internet would go out for a few hours...
The cable company sends out a tech to repair it, just like what would happen with a broken copper cable. Fiber repair, while more complex than fixing copper, isn't as difficult as it sounds.
on a long weekend..... hmmmm, thx for that idea
It generally happens in my area, competitors break the fiber optic cable of my ISP 🤣🤣,
That would be illegal wouldn't it?
I fiber to the pole and the node, which transmit wirelessly to a access point and to the router. 200/200 is the best! Fiber is beautiful!
Thats cool to bad i was told by at&t i would get Fiber in 2019 and still dont have it.
i was told in 2017 I:
what about not having internet your whole life but getting fibre next week? that's me can't wait
osckear how are you writing this then?
@@ferni0 Not worth my time explaining to a dumb ass.
AusDaes it’s called a phone 📱 (cellular data)
Thanks for making a section from my network+ exam more relatable. I just got burned out from notes and flash cards. Nice to see it being put to real life use
Had 250/20, bought 100/400 fiber wifi, first time played wired/LAN, still the same ping
When you're so early that there's no dislikes lol
you're* so* there are*
@@gmansplit and u
When you're so early that there are no dislikes*
When it stops working because of the bend it is because you have surpassed the angle of refraction of the fiberglass on the inside. It is the same principle of how when you shine a laser into a body of wire, the light bounces of the top until you reach an angle.
lol I live in Poland in "small" city and I have 1Gbps fiber connection for more than a year XDDD before I had for 2-3 years 500Mb/s 😂
macieja92 hey that’s sweet! Here in Brazil I have 16mb/s down and 5 up. Haha. Third world problems
Violante bruh I’m in America and I get 1mbps
@@ryanhughes8036 Yes third world problems
@@Violant3 naaaah Brasil is not a 3rd world country, dw ;) some retards think that Poland is also a 3rd world country lol :DD
@@ryanhughes8036 I'm in Brazil and have a 5 Mbps connection.
About 3 months ago, I went from Spectrums 400/20
To AT&T's Fiber 500/500 And I am loving it.
I've had only ONE issue and that was on the installer who made the cable that went from the outside into the modem, apparently he didnt crimp and make the cable properly.
But other than that one morning of inconvience. I have not regreted the choice.
Also I am spending something like 40 dollars less.
My ping where I live is 20ms to the nearest city 20 miles away.
It's clear that Century Link is using terrible equipment and has a 95% profit margin
Bro I'm rocking 100-130ms. I'd trade you.
@@tErMiiNeX where do you live? That sounds like just having no local servers
I’m in Minnesota with century link and it sucks ass.
Ha, good old Juniper.... careful with the firmware updates... ;-)
finally got a 100mbps internet connection life is good after that :)
I'm kinnda happy, that I live in Romania. In Romania, this fiber internet costs 10USD / mounth (at Digi).
I live in Utah and been using Google Fiber in my apartment for the last 4 years, I forgot what buffering is like...
Same I been having Verizon FiOS for almost 3 years
Me laughing with my gigabit internet that i have had for about year and pay CAD 85
Why so much??
@@snazzy same i pay 70 bucks for just gigabit had it for a year got it from fios
63 bucks for gigabit up here in Canada. Not bad
I’m in Houston and paying $45 a month for 1 gig ATT fiber.
I’m in Houston and paying $45 a month for 1 gig ATT fiber.
Bout the bending it doesnt break but a tight curve makes the light not able to reflect within the fiber but it reflects outward leading to light loss
0:45 Doug De muro lmao
Going from 50mbps is 1gbps is life changing. In all honesty, even homes need 1gbps to work effortlessly. With cloud services running, media servers as well as a number of streaming devices our total upload and download can creep up to over 500mb/s at any one time. When we was on 80mbps our house was a battle ground with constant arguments about lag (bufferbloat). The days of FTTC are definitely over. Businesses and consumers should be demanding full fibre now.
My internet is trash, so seeing this is just incredible. I really wish AT&T would get their act together and start giving people more than 3 mega bits per second so that we can do stuff at a good pace, meanwhile everyone else is talking about 80 megabits per second plus.
Funny because I'm about to get the AT&T Gig Fiber Internet hooked up in my area on Saturday.
The uploading speed is insane!!
Here in Hong Kong there's practically no choice but fibre internet for nearly 10 years now, their newest offering these 2 years is twin fibre for 2gigabit.
I upgraded the Internet connection to 1Gbps for my company a few years ago. First thing I did after going live was to see how many concurrent 4k streams it can handle. It's crazy to think home users can now get 5Gbps or even 10Gbps Internet for a fraction of the price.
Me: WHY CANT YOU JUST BE NORMAL?!
My rural area internet that has me at at least 600 ping at all times: *SCREAMS*
i work for isps working on the lines out on the street on coax and fiber lines. and the black box out side your building is a fiber splice case. you did luck out on it being outside the building cause otherwise they would mostlikely run a line to the closes case and that could be from under a mile to sometimes 2 or 3 miles if not more. i have run fiber for people like that.
11:35 that's funny i wasn't expected this😂lol
0:45 I thought that was Doug demuro reviewing a car ...
The switch on the unifi dream machine has a managed switch on it - it's not just managed because it's a router too. Since it does switching at layer 3 (routing) as well as standard traffic router, it's more than just a switch + router/firewall.
Him: 0 ping, 1tb download speed, 1tb upload speed
Ours: 200 Ping, 3mbps download speed, 0.5mbps upload speed
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I feel you bruh
a 0 ms ping is impossible, unless your internet is faster than the speed of light.....
not faster than the speed of light but just as fast as the speed of light, and that is what fibre optic is. Its light the travels through the wires, and a ping that low is possible when you connect to a server in your city. I get around that much ping
And he was pinging himself, you can see he used the same IP there: 15:55 17:19
Anything under 0.5 ms rounds down to 0 ms
@@markomclane475 the pulses of light in a fibre cable actually doesn't travel the speed of light although they've got it close in a lab some years ago but I'd imagine the equipment for that will take some time to enter production
Here in Brazil we use Real Fiber in most of the country since 2017. Really cool
This is what oligarchy looks like: Today, the top one-tenth of 1 percent owns almost as much bandwidth as the bottom 90 percent"
Meanwhile Linus:
* Laughs in 10gbps internet *
Eh, fair enough. :D mind you, 10Gbps is not a thing which is like "oh, I wish I can get that much speed" it's entirely possible!
As a technician who was in a metro market with FTTH, I do have to correct one thing - yes, your fiber cable as a cable is split and shared throughout the neighborhood, but that's not the end of the story. You do have a direct connection - you have one strand of a fiber cable, and each cable has over a hundred other strands inside. You get full duplex 1Gbps even on a single strand, actually. One of the largest downsides to GPON is the fact it does not entirely negate ping - this is still affected by servers and the mux/demux of the light in the cable.
I don't think that they are on gpon. It looked like standard sfp+ bidi.
"internet service providers don't give life they suck it" got me rolling 😂😂😂😂
@11:39 the part where u bent the fiber cable and the internet stopped..technically you are creating a point of attenuation..if it is below a certain threshhold (depending on the nature of optics/optical power, 3km,10km, 25km,40km etc)the optical signal is to weak to complete tx and rx in this case... that is a very important concept you have demonstrated there, it can be visualised using a laser/Visual fault locator or an OTDR trace, sometimes on maintainance a degraded signal on a cell site or a customer premise can be corrected by opening a fiber closure and just straightening a fiber core than may have kinked/bent and all is well
@ 15:50 should be put on loop man ! LOVE the reaction!
The DAC cable is also known as twin-ax. The majority are copper based but you can get fibre versions. For short cables they're much, much cheaper than fibre SFP modules, tho the QSFP DAC I needed for my Palo Alto 5220 was quoted by PA as being several thousand for a 10 metre cable - which was the only size they offered it in!
Something people need to remember when it comes to SFPs and DACs is that many network equipment manufacturers won't support 3rd party modules and will either refuse to look at support tickets until you buy a 1st party module or will actually completely invalidate your warranty citing potential damage caused by the unsupported module. It's a lot of fun when you update the OS on your switch or firewall and find they've removed support for your 3rd party module.
Regarding how much you can bend the cable before you lose signal, it's generally called the bend radius and is due to the fact that fibre is a small strand of glass and bending it attenuates the light to the point where none of it reaches the other side. Bend it too much/far and you're liable to snap the glass and lead to a lot of light leaking out of the cable. Interestingly the way the switch functions is that it records the light level as a power level (Rx and Tx) measured in milliamps and dBm.
For your ping, it's not really representative to ping what is effectively your local network on the WAN side of your router as you'd expect that to be the shortest round trip time, especially if all you're pinging is your gateway address (which would be 1 hop). I would ping something like a server within your country but not on your ISP network to force it into making several hops, which you can see the latencies of each hop if you use the traceroute/tracert command to determine where your connection is getting the latency from. Keep in mind you get those sorta low latencies when you ping an IP on your internal subnet, usually represented in windows as "
nice vid!! i stumbled accros this vid with your 11000 mac vs pc. Im getting myself 1000/1000 as well and this vid is excellent to adjust expectations. it was no boring at all from start to end
A good way to make an example of this is to shove a visible light source up the end of it and when you bend the patch lead you'll see the light bleeding out the side of the jacket. This will show you the loss you are experiencing visually.
11:48 I called my ISP and was losing my mind because I was suddenly getting a terrible connection for an unexplainable reasons. Turns out, someone moved the router and bent the fiber cable so I simply straightned it and everything was back to normal
If you want to know what is inside that black splice case in that hand hole, search for iFOSC installation on RUclips
Fort Collins Colorado is making fiber available throughout the entire town and Is making its own ISP. So we all get fiber I’m pumped
How does that work? Does the city own the ISP like some cities own their own utility companies? It's an intriguing idea but it also seems like there's some untested legal ground to be explored there.
If you bend the cable you should see interface errors for layer one issue, CRC errors or maybe runts. That's really what you should have been checking for, not loading web page. Also their is this feature that some switch have call digital optical monitoring that monitors whether the light in the fiber is with in spec. The arista switch you have I don't know if it supports DOM.
Once i get my home i will do all this well with out that specific equipment because i dont need all that but that 0 ping is nice.
bends alter the reflective ability of the fiber until you end up with attenuation, it also occurs when a coax or fiber cable are severed and not properly terminated. the coax will attenuate with RF interference where as the fiber will occur through light hitting the sheared or broken part in the fiber line which acts like a mirror or prism and reflects it back down the line to cause interference which will cause a loss of signal through limiting of the intensity of light to it's destination. if you have a physical splitter in a coax system you'll want to buy little terminator caps that screw into the end of unused coax line or onto the unused part of the splitter itself or you'll cause attenuation in the system which will end up creating "lag", also not properly tightening the coax connectors can also introduce it. while it seems like a simple "garden hose" system when you look at it there is quite a bit more at play!
You did a great job highlighting how much it sucks to own an apple computer.
Crapy 50 down and 20 up? Dude! This is my dream network connection and apparently there are no chances for get it soon!
Currently using 2 mbps connection on radio technology like in smartphones - this is my only option to have any internet connection in last 6 years
The bending causes the total internal reflection to stop at the point because of the angle. Effectively the light leaks out of the fiber and doesn't reach the end.
Id see if the isp can prove the speeds are better with a temp setup outside my house before switching over. Iq fiber is swarming in my neighborhood!
Refreshing a webpage was the best way to see if bending the fiber causes issues? lol then I saw the mac. Everything makes sense now.
Last year I traveled to California (the home base of Silicon Valley!!!), and I was *shocked* to see how difficult it is to find a decent internet speed. Except for Starbucks' Google Fiber, I could not find any place (nor businesses nor friends' places) with more than 100mbps download speed for the life of me.... I live in Milan, and for 30€/month we get a solid 1000/200mbps 3-4ms ping fiber connection 😅 I'll start treating italian providers' call centers differently from now on 😛 I should be grateful
If you don't mind me asking, where in California did you visit? California is a very large state that is radically different depending on where you are within the state. I live in a somewhat small city of 66k people (Yuba City, but some people call it Yuba Shitty) and have pretty much no fiber to the home internet service (I think only like 1-2 neighborhoods have it and that's it). On the other hand, where I work, the schools have either a 1-10 Gb fiber connection through AT&T.
I live in Australia I’ve had fibre to my premises for 7 years. Can’t believe some people in the US still don’t have it yet.
A lot of places in the US have FTTH and a lot of places don't. I live in a town of about 70k people in northern California and we have very little FTTH. The 2 main providers in my area have minimal fiber service. We have AT&T and Comcast. Neither provider is particularly interested in installing fiber in our town. AT&T seems to be more interested in crappy 5G service and slow DSL and Comcast seems ok with coaxial cabling and crappy customer service.
I just got FTTH this January, it took me 14 years of waiting and my only ISP got bought out plus a government loan of over $600,000 to provide my area with said FTTH because we only have DSL. I was paying $80.00 a month for 5 mbps down and 0.85 mbps upload which sucks, fortunately I got the symmetrical 1Gb package for roughly the same price when the fiber was available.
here in chile i have 1gb download/500 mb upload fiber conection to my home and its a world of a difference switching from coaxial to fiber and i can play almost every game if the server are hosted in chile with 5ms or less.... i have 115 to 130ms to USA East...
PD: sorry for my english isnt my main language
Im really happy for you to get a fiber connection! Its amazing!
But seriously, we (the isp i work for) would never sign off on the work those contractors did. You should never show the fiber cable to the outside world. Cut that and it could cost anything from 400-1200 bucks just to fix it!
We just went from 1mbps up and down with a ping of 52 when no one is on the wifi, and now we have fibre and our speed caps at 500 with the best device while everyone is on it...pretty nice
The sharp bend causing slow internet is in itself pretty easy explainable: When you bend the cable so much, the angle is so drastic that light can "escape" through the layer on top of the real fiber meant to keep the light inside. Picture it like a reeeeeally long ethernet connection, where the signals arrive very weak, if at all. Some intelligence agencies actually use this technique to tap fiber cables, because it leaves no tracks, and to get useful signals out of it, you don't have to bend it that sharp
Finally! After searching the net for days I found some great answers in this video. However I have some more questions now. I am building a new house and will have CenturyLink's Gig FTTH. I have no idea if it will be PON or AON. I want to build the network in my new home just like you did for your business. Multiple RJ45 in the home, several wireless APs, PoE cameras, NAS, etc.
1. What role does the Juniper play? Couldn't you run straight from the ONT to the Ubiquiti Dream if it will ROUTE?
2. I want to avoid using a dime store router. Will there be any discernible improvement using the Dream Pro vs a cheapie router/wifi/modem?
3. What's the thing called that all your home runs are terminated at then patches into the Arista? Is that a punch down termination?
4. With new construction, would you run copper or fiber (or both) to all the ethernet jack locations? Is Cat 8 a viable option?
Since the opportunity is there, I might as well do as much future-proofing the house as I can. Who knows, maybe one day 10gb FTTH will be available. I'll be taking a dirt nap by then but I can dream.
That appears to be a 1330 nm fiber you plugged into your juniper router. It might be 1550nm. It's been twenty years since I last dealt with that stuff.
lols, LLT on the home page XD / LTT should try that Fiber bend while running a speed test
lol "ISP doesnt give life they suck it" lol that was actually funny
11:45 Yes the signal is basically pulses of laser light that bounce back & forth along the length of the fiber using total internal reflections. Too sharp a bend will cause the signal to leak out or degrade