As a Telecommunications worker for many years I can tell you it's criminal how much money these companies make and how little they are willing to pay for contracts to the actual builders. Telecommunications workers desperately need to unionize if they ever wish to achieve the success the lineman have.
ISP networks need to be broken back up into regional players and never be allowed to consolidate because that's not their job. I'm a firm believer that the only "large" companies allowed should be investing/holding companies as they can prop up the companies.
The US Gov in the late 1980s sought to make the US the worlds most fiber connected country in the world and passed laws in 1992 giving about 400 Billion dollars to the telecoms to build fiber networks to build the entire country a vast network of fiber capable of 10Gb/s+ speeds for every person within 10 years. The companies pocketed almost all of it and said they couldn't actually do it afterwards. So the next time you see some company shilling for money from tax payers over fiber. Remember they were supposed to have 100% fiber internet at gigabit plus speeds by the early-mid 2000s, 20 years ago now. Their complete and utter lack of proper investment in their networks at the rates they charge is such an absurd sum of money that they could more than pay for that right now. Unfortunately the MO right now for these publicly traded companies is most profit for least money spent so until the government sets them a deadline of suspension of license to operate within the US within say 10 years, they will never do it for another 30-40 years. I am personally a person who almost always favors the private sector, but this model of operation has desperately failed the citizens of the USA. I am strongly of the opinion the US Gov should just build it all out and then rent it to the ISPs while capping how much profit they can make off their customers with flat fees. Basically the infrastructure should be nationalized until the ISPs renting fees have paid off the original costs of construction. Then they can purchase the old infrastructure/equipment for legacy systems while the gov builds out/upgrades for the next generation. An alternative to this is that the US Gov could instead just start flinging money at new start up locally based ISPs to start a pricing war with the larger ones. This would cost the tax payer less than footing the entire bill all over again. And when they cry wolf about why they are getting absolutely bent over by the government, should ask them why they didn't just honor their half of the deal couple decades prior... Its one thing in a long long list of BS things that are plaguing this country compared to many other in the first world. Corruption.
Yep! So glad some people don’t have the memory of a goldfish like most Americans seem to have. These are ISPS are completely corrupt and useless. The government needs to take a more active role in these massive undertaking because the private companies are too shortsighted and rotten.
Now we are stuck with monopolies in pretty much every market when it comes to local ISPs. And like this video stated 18 states have laws that were paid for by ISPs to make municipal ISPs illegal to protect their monopoly. Nothing worse then crony capitalism.
I like how they report on fiber as if it's new and not half a century old. It's pretty embarrassing that the US spent all the money to develop all these technologies and then failed to actually deploy them in a reasonable time span
A famous quote "Anyone can make a plan but can they execute it?" I guess one day the news folks will become fully aware and admit they have limited knowledge. It does take time for the cost efficiency to be fully realized. Up Front costs are steep.
Right, America invented majority of these technologies for other countries to use them. Again, though it's hard to put all the US in one boat fiber has been deployed in many places for a while..
That's the problem with the United States. There are so many highly sophisticated technologies that have been developed, are very obscure, and also hardly known at all, but they are not being made available widely in public use and as public infrastructure... In large part because of the lack of political will for it...
This should have been largely completed in the early 2000s. I got my tech cert and they never implemented fiber, they dragged it for decades since and they still artificially slowing speeds on current fiber networks.
@@baysidejr exactly. A big scam. News acting like this is a new discovery. Tge implementation of fiber is literally 20 years late right now. They are offering speeds that's should have been given 20 Yeats ago. I was training and got my Cisco certified network associate certificate and learned all this stuff a long time ago. And the fact they are currently substantially slowing speeds and charging high price for a cheaper network to manage than cable
Yeah and all these ISPs took billions in subsidies from the government and never fulfilled their end of the bargain. They decided to sit on copper and coax lines that were already run into people's houses and just milk it instead of what they were supposed to be doing....which was deploying fiber.
USA is all about grifting, lobbying and letting the ISPs have factual monopolies in many areas. Fortunately the Democrats started to change this with Bidens "Build back better". It is time people wake up and make the politicians work for the voters, not to be a part of the corp. lobby/grifter system.
Here in NZ our government rolled out Fibre nationally and we went from having one of the worst internet speeds & prices to some of the best in the world.
@@ihmpall People used to make the exact same comments about our small size too as to why we never had fast internet. "NZ is too small and isolated of a country to spend Billions installing fibre to every home". Its all excuses and bad ones
@@ihmpall the USA has 36 people per sq km whilst NZ has 18 people per sq km. Looks like NZ is much more difficult due to density than the USA. USA (and Australia) have no excuses.
@@stevel9627 Australia did the same with NBN but they said it's horrible. I think it has to do with scale. Difficulty in installation increases exponentially the larger the area you have to cover.
Same in Australia. Our previous conservative government cancelled the progressive government’s plan to install fiber to every home by 2020. In 2013 when the conservatives won government they stopped all fiber unless you had $20k to install it yourself. Now in 2022 we are hoping the new government to fix this mess. It’s discriminatory that only 50% of Australians have fiber (similar to the USA) whilst the rest are on 1800s technology.
@@AvoidTheCadaver you're comparing one of the most urbanized countries in the world that can have cities and ppl living everywhere relative to nation that's like 80% desert.
Yes early adoption of cable tv has played a key role in lagging fiber-to-the-home adoption in the US, BUT the main reason is simply GREED. The writing has been on the wall for a long time now for coax, but providers and their overlords are milking out traditional last mile coax cable till the very last drop to maximize profits and postpone capital expenditure on upgrades, that is all.
Never forget that CNBC is owned by America’s most hated cable company/ISP: Comcast. No wonder they don’t come clean about their role in keeping internet service slow and expensive.
There is a belief that fiber to the home is not really as necessary as people think. While fiber as a technology is king the average customers proximity to a fiber node and running coax off of that provide pretty much a similar type of data experience. The proximity reduces the SLA requirements which already are low for a residential customer as compared to a business customer.
@@abaoaqu1333 rigggght…and nowadays with everyone in the family wanting to steam to their own device and kids doing videoconferencing and schoolwork online, and so many more people working from home…it would be really nice to have that fiber about now. 12 or 20Mbit upload speeds and 200MBit download speeds are really not gonna cut for people moving big files or everyone steaming 4K. I want fiber in my house and I want it 20 years ago. I want symmetric 1GBit speeds instead of this throttled garbage slowness I’ve been stuck with.
I can guarantee that the issues with fibre roll out in the US is down to monopolies. Companies have customers by the balls and nothing is going to change that. The limited roll out of Google fibre proved that
Frontier is my only provider and it’s their DSL. It’s slow but their fiber is coming to me Q4 this year. Whole build in my state is government funded. I’m rural as well
Nothing to do with monopolies in the US. It is just very labor intensive and expensive to achieve the last mile. Many people live with in a mile of fibre but the cost of connecting to their home simply is too high. If people were presented with the upfront cost of those connections they would run a mile from them.
@@bighands69 It does have to do with monopolies still. My community has a monopoly in the sense that AT&T dug, setup all their equipment here and won’t allow anyone else to connect, monopolies are illegal in California but they find their ways. Spectrum, frontier, etc all day on the system it shows AT&T has some sort of agreement when I try to switch.
Got AT&T Fiber last year and its been amazing. Not ONE drop or service interruption the entire year. Haven't had to touch the modem once. It just works. I really hope they build out the infrastructure for everyone to get on fiber over the old cable/DSL systems. I have 1gig and that's more than enough for me but I'm seeing ISPs releasing 5/10gig lines for home users, crazy.
5 to 10 gig lines aren't crazy at all when you consider that those are preferred for people who stream a lot or have large families. There are also internet pirates who use high bandwidth lines like that because they download a lot of files obviously while using a VPN especially if their ISP is comcast.
Wait till they raise your price almost double when the instruction period is over. I had fiber for $50 for a year and. A half and then raised it to $90 with no notice. They were the only fiber option since municipalities can't build their own fiber like in Europe.
The reason why they can't get fiberoptic installers is because they aren't willing to pay for it. They are only paying $18-20 an hour "last mile" home installers and $20-25 for infrastructure installers. This is not competitive pay for wire workers, electricians which do similar pulling wires and plugging cables in a last mile installation and running cables on poles earn double that.
@@dondiego124 Sorry thats what I was trying to say, electricians get fiber certified and get paid double to do the same job. They can't get fiber installers because they aren't willing to pay what it costs, they are trying to cheep out.
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17 "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:38-39
Have Verizon FIOS fiber in NYC and it's the best internet service I've ever used. Extremely fast and extremely reliable. Super low ping and hardly any packet loss ever.
Here in Australia the government built a "state of the art" broadband network using existing 50 year old copper cabling which was delayed many years, over budget billions of dollars and obsolete before it was even started.
Australia need to take a hard look at NZ and their infrastructure. I bet it is related to bad politics and somewhat to the distances involved. The fiber backbone should be a government task, and not something you leave to monopolies maximizing profit in the dense built areas only. Investment in fiber is something all countries should do, as they do with road and they did with the old telephone system.
I've had fiber for around 3 years now, and we were lucky to have been covered by fiber before the pandemic. We started at 25mbps upload and download. Thanks to competition between ISPs here in the Philippines, my current speed is now at 300mbps upload and download for around $40 per month, and that is bundled with TV and a landline phone. Also very happy to be covered by 5G which gives me around 200mbps download speed during the rare instances we get an internet outage.
In Turkey, I pay 9$ for 1000 Mbps Download 20 Mbps Upload speed. Of course, the reason why it is so cheap is that I bought it with a 2-year contract. Currently the same internet package is 17$
@@Linus76 Right lmao, as if you’d know anything about technology development and how asymmetrical it often is as a result of competition. It’s as if competition is not the reason why 60-75% of humanity’s technological innovations came out of thin air! Stupidity at its finest.
Fiber needs to be the goal for any major ISP in the next 3 years, there is absolutely no reason fiber should not be nationwide. For example monopolies like Cox communications here in Arizona have little to no competition in Phoenix and other metro cities (Lumen/CenturyLink use DSL for 99% of their network and cap out at 50mbps down and 10mbps up)
Fiber to the home is an absolute game changer. I have had Fiber at home for 5 years. It hasn't gone down once. During the Texas Winter storm I didn't have electricity for a week....but my fiber was lit! 2GB SYMMETRICAL is mind blowing. Everything happens instantly, and cloud based backups are almost as fast as a local backup. Of course in order to utilize the full capacity, one needs to update to a multi gigabit home network.
The main reason why Americans are not fully on fiber is just like a lot of other issue the US have, "free market", money first, people come second ( from the bottom up ) ... if The US can learn a thing or two from other countries like Sweden, the USA can be much better
Technologically? Let's say you are from Sweden In top 10 biggest tech companies of the world, USA has 5 while Sweden has zero The score is 5-0 in favor of USA Sweden is a tiny irrelevan bakwate lake. If we were to learn from Sweden, then we would be a technological embarasment like Sweden with literally zero companies in the top 10. Thankfully we don't follow Sweden.
The US covers 3,717,792 square miles, Sweden covers 173,860 square miles. Geography has a lot to do with limits of implementing infrastructure too. Not just money grubbing "free market". Same holds true for things like public transit systems.
I remember working for a fiber optic company 20 years ago. It's amazing how much has changed. Cost has always been the predominant factor when installing fiber optics so that part hasn't changed.
Here in Singapore, we’ve had fibre since like the 2010s. Almost everyone here uses fibre. It helps that the fibre optic cables were laid by the Gov, unlike the US where the telco is in charge of laying the fibre optic cables.
Singapore square kilometers: 728.6 United States square kilometers: 9,384,000,000 Yeah, it's totally just a matter of the government vs private business...smh
It isn't just bandwidth that makes fibre attractive. It is also its ability to transmit long distances without repeaters, 1000's of miles. A repeater needs power, so requires undersea cables carry electrical power along with the fibre.
@@scottfranco1962 Ok. but you did say 1000s of miles and that isn't happening. Not only do you have distance loss, you have splice losses to add as well. Also, you can't get a straight run back to the main site which usually doubles the length in a straight run. But typically a large city doesn't need more than 2-3 main sites. The advantage is OPEX due to not needing electricity.
Now there are more and more people work from home, reliable high speed internet is becoming an essential need. For online applications, video streaming, all need broadband that does not drop in speed when everyone in the city are online at the same time. Fiber is the best in keeping the speed. I have fiber, and I got a look at what it is in technology -- I was digging in my backyard and my shovel hit the fiber. It is hard plastic outside and inside looks like clear hard plastic. I only cut the outside skin of the fiber and I quickly covered it up. Internet is work, ordering food, entertainment ... all came through that plastic wire.
@ozicrypto G UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Sweden etc are all behind USA at internet speed Don't believe me? "Look up "list of countries with internet speeds' and open the wikipedia look
"80% of the cost is in installation" "eventually fiber networks are going to be needed everywhere" gee.. its almost as if we told they gave these interviews in 1990. so what did we do? we gave the tel-cos a couple hundred billion dollars, and said "go do it" yet here we are, decades later, and we still don't have a nationwide fiber network because of the greed of private corporations to just pocket the money, and then buyback stock shares to make their bottom line and EPS look better...
I have fiber but it didn't work like advertised. It turned out that the box that was connected to the fiber was installed incorrectly. But after it was done again I now have clean, stable, super fast internet. Great for increasing my influence over this world.
They talking like fiber is available to everyone when it isn't even close. And it's not just rural communities. I live in a major metropolitain area and fiber isn't even available in my neighborhood, nor the one down the street, nor the one beside that. Once again policy is either looking out for the super poor or the super rich and leaving us in the middle out here ... like always.
Exactly "the adoption of fiber in the US has been very slow" BECAUSE THE AVAILABILITY IS SLOW everywhere its available people adopt it instantly! At our old house they ran fiber at the road in 2014, when we moved in 2018 AT&T was still saying "not enough demand to hook up to houses" every time we called. They ran lines in front of our new house this spring, we've called twice now and they say "its not ready for deployment yet"
We have the same issue. I think they skip your house if your wiring goes underground or is too far from their switches. Hopefully they’ll get it out to us but not holding my breath. 100mbps cable internet isn’t too bad though it’s just upload speed isn’t great.
@@lordhosk I got put on a list 8 years ago in Hot Springs Village, and they still have said NOTHING. Suddenlink/OPTIMUM is the only game in town right now. Unless you want 6Mbps DSL, that is...
"With fiber optic internet you can get speeds up to 2 Gbps". Meanwhile in sweden we've had 10 Gbps available for private households with fiber connection since 2018.
Same here in Portugal although it's expensive. I have a very close friend who worked for Microsoft Sweden at 2005, at those times and when he came back to Portugal on holidays we used to compare the services between our two countries and also other EU member states... and as I can remember Sweden always had the fastest and cheapest service in Europe by far!! Ericsson Communications always placed your country in the vanguard I should say... ;) only the Japanese had something similar. Nowadays, here in Portugal 500Mbs is the norm because its the cheapest solution offered by operators, although I see tendency to be updated to 1Gbs along this year... Greetings from Portugal
You know I heard they have Chocolate in Sweden. Fiber in the US has been around for over 50 years. Yes you can get 10GB to your house, IF you're willing to shell out the dollars. Smart move for Sweden to place 10GB to the house for future proofing. I would guess that an individual home in Sweden does not fully utilize that capacity.
@@theforester_ wow now that’s affordable🔥… it’s like R330 in South African money. In SA the minimum price of 100Mbps is R897(R$272.50 or $52.71). You guys have some cheap fibre internet there, wow I envy your prices. Maybe our prices will fall once the connection is national.
Very nice video, I have worked as a Fiber Technician for more than 25 years in Silicon Valley, Working in the commercial building sector. I have been part of projects from almost every big Tech company in silicon valley. it has been a very cool journey. Someone in the comments below said something about not being paid enough for the work we do and i have to agree with that but the way to make a little bit more money is by working for a company that are part of the union such as the IBEW.
Thank you Corning for this major advance in human development. I was at GTE in software when the ISDN had not yet been "rolled out". The 1st area code pilot project was in Tampa, FL. The phone company was required by the government to allow fiber on it's phone network polls, install it, and then be charged a few cents per mile for doing so. The phone companies were on a copper-wire network. Interestingly, it was cable tv that spurred the development of fiber, while telco further developed wireless. It is just miraculous to see this quantum leap forward.
oh you mean; gutting the streets and replacing the copper with fiber? fine. 5g is faster. 6g you don't even wanna know . it will make fiber look like dial up.
Yeah but here’s a bigger question…who is going to install all this fiber? Last I checked the working conditions for installers are minimum, pay is laughable, and hours are crazy long (former cable installer talking from experience). Who is installing all these cables 🤷🏾♂️?
People who want money to feed their family (who they may rarely see). The skills for the running part are minimal; termination and testing... not so much.
There are a few companies providing. In the Northeast, Verizon does fiber to the house, previously fiber to the curb. Advertisements indicate a residential customer can get a 2Gbps connection for around $100
Here in South Africa everyone I know (in an urban area) uses fibre at home and work/school. Its roll-out has been life-changing. Typically we pay 40 dollars a month.
Is fiber a "new thing" in America? Here (Sweden) everyone has it! I mean, even old people have it, to read the news, and we have it in summerhouses and stuff. Our government decided to give every swede the possibility to get fiber in 1999! And since updates are made by changing base stations, more or less everyone have real highspeed broadband today!
Nah, the back scratching and the payoffs in this country are stifling expansion and even some development. In many, many areas of business and industry, the deals and the favors are killing this democratic republic a penny at a time. Everyone of them thinks they are getting ahead, but we will all pay in the end, just like the way they keep supporting corrupt and connected politicians, using the dumbest arguments in history...
When I lived in the UK in the mid 2000s high speed Fibre was rolling out, and it was cheap (relatively speaking for back then). One advantage Europe has is a large population in a small concentrated area, making it quite cheap to deploy and for it to reach the majority of the population
They've been talking about this since 25 years ago. I remember over 20 years ago when my neighbor had fiber but yet it wasn't allowed on my street. Guess what, I still like this!!
In South Africa🇿🇦 they started pushing to under serviced areas since late 2019 early 2020 and now companies are seeing that more people want fibre. Next month I will be connected and cancelling my kak 5G. I just can’t wait.
The situation in the US is very similar to the one we have here in Brazil. Here, people also associate TV with cable Internet, at least in the major cities. Fiber is becoming popular, especially with regional providers. Some companies, such as Claro (América Móvil), lie when they advertise fiber internet, when in reality fiber does not reach people's homes.
hey fellow brazilian, im an engineer at an ISP in Rio and i have to disagree that the situation here is similar to the US. if there is anything similar is that the big players (Claro, Vivo, Tim...) offer terrible customer support and will lie and screw you over at any given opportunity with hidden or undisclosed fees that you never asked for. but other than that, our situation is much different from theirs (for the better i'd say). we actually have tons of competition here. if you live in an urban area you likely have the option to choose from several different ISPs, and if you threaten your current provider with cancelling and getting a new one you will almost always get a massive deal for the next 1 year contract (i do this every year). at our ISP we deliver FTTH at the central metropolitan area and have hundreds of customers. over the whole state we have dozens of corporate and organization clients with big contracts, that could pick and choose from many different providers were they to offer a better price.
I just saw a news that says that 66% of Brazilian broadband is fiber optic. And 44% of that are from local providers. (Tecnoblog) And Claro is a problem with 23,2% of marketshare in broadband, but only 2,6% of marketshare in fiber optic.
Problem with these types of stories is the use of analysts and trade groups that are tied to the industry, they neglect he fact that companies are offering fiber to the home. People want it and could use it, but they're at the mercy of the largest corporations who have not delivered and attempt to block municipal implementation.
not attempt to block municipal implementation. They DID block it, all efforts have stalled, competition was squashed by the monopoly, that is why monopolies are so bad: They use their power to block competition.
While I think we all know that wireless has its issues, which wasn't really touched on in this piece, let's focus on the difference between what coax gets you versus a fiber connection (and I am on a 1 Gb/s symmetrical fiber connection here in the USA for ~$60/mo, which is much cheaper than the coax service in my area that is inferior to this): 1. Raw speed - I actually do need the upstream. Many others may need this for things like backing up their computers to the cloud and remotely monitoring home security cameras. Cable modem can be fairly fast on the downloads, but sucks on uploads. When you do need it, it is not there just like the people who are not really your friends. 2. Latency and jitter - Cable modems can easily add 7 - 30ms of latency and can have lots of jitter as you share the connection with your neighbors. As we all use VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) and video conferencing apps, this leads to delays causing people to talk over each other excessively due to the poor quality of service as opposed to it just being rude people on the line and breakup of voice and video, which at best is annoying and worse unusable and it happens ALL OF THE TIME with cable modems, greatly harming the quality of work from home. In contrast my current symmetrical 1 Gb/s fiber connection has less than 1 ms of latency and less than 1 ms of jitter. I can see when I am doing the same things over this fiber connection, at least the other people who are also on fiber and are either wired in or have their home Wi-Fi setup properly, the connection is perfect, no delay, no breakup of voice or video. It is really clear who is also on fiber (and seeing I remotely communicate with the same people all the time, I know who has what to validate this) and who is on a cable modem. In the remote worker world where you may interview over your home Internet connection, the people with fiber have a clear leg up on the people who don't just due to the potential employer can see, hear, and understand the person on a fiber connection where often the person on a cable modem they can't or key things said are lost. 3. Packet loss - An interesting thing I came across a few years back was a kernel patch that broke TCP fast re-transmits on a server on the other side of the country from where I am at in a way where it really impacted these long distance transmissions for large data transmissions I was doing for work. On a cable modem, the problem would be triggered right away. On a fiber connection, the problem simply would not happen. I looked at the data stream with a packet sniffer and validated what was going on. The fiber link simply did not randomly lose a single packet and so there were 0 TCP fast re-transmits while the coax link dropped packets like mad and this is even with the cable modem directly wired in, no splitters, only an attenuator because the signal would be too strong for the cable modem as the cable provider has to bump up signal strength to go through people's crappy splitters and open ports bringing noise into the system, especially on the 700 MHz band used by the cable modems that is also used by 4G cellular service. (On my cable modem back when I could only get cable modem service in my area, I could see tonnes of packet loss in this 700 MHz band on those channels. It came in bursts, probably as one of my neighbors sat next to an open coax port in their home with their cell phone or maybe an old coax wire that wasn't up to snuff.) Packet loss also contributes to the poor quality of service discussed in #2. 4. Service outages - When I was on cable modem service, it regularly went out, even though I took everything off and just had the coax go straight into the cable modem, no splitters, just the right sized attenuator needed when not using a splitter. When the power went out, the cable modem service went out. I had the electronics in question on backup power, so they still had their power lights on, but the cable modem just wasn't receiving a signal anymore because the box down the street the coax cable connected to that the telco controlled did not have backup power. With my current fiber service, earlier this year for example a huge, record smashing wind storm knocked out power for an extended time. My fiber Internet service worked perfectly the whole time as I ran my equipment off of backup power. As the fiber goes straight to the CO (central office) as fiber has the reach coax does not have, the ISP was able to keep their equipment powered reliably from a central location. I even went by the CO at one point as I was doing stuff and could hear the backup generators running at the CO. In general the fiber service has been super reliable and just works. This was never the case with super finicky coax, no matter how hard I tried on my side to have the best possible experience. Those with splitters and coax running in all directions through their home must have a terrible time, even worse than my horrible experience with it. For example I have gone under homes to work on issues and have found rodents have chewed up the coax under the home. I think this is probably pretty common and this can ruin the experience around the neighborhood as coax is shared with your neighbors. This has got to cost the coax providers a fortune in service calls where my fiber service just works perfectly year after year, no service calls needed. So yeah, coax is an obsolete technology that did not serve America the way it needed to during the pandemic nor will it moving forward. If you want and these days need a quality connection that can serve your work from home needs, you really need to have fiber to the home. There is not much else that can really compete with this in most cases. The main exception I can think of is if you live in a high rise building, there is the possibility of doing point to point wireless between tall buildings at high frequencies (such as 60 GHz) and this can work out well. Businesses can get lower frequency fixed wireless as say a lower speed backup connection, though beware of shared fixed wireless and VoIP as the two don't mix due to latency and jitter issues as well as potential high packet loss. Cellular is really not all that great and worse than cable modems, which are not really good enough. Starlink is more you don't have another option in your rural area.
Unfortunately I live in an area where comcast runs a monopoly and are the only internet providers. They set whatever price they want for their inferior service. Folks that live 1 block away from me have fiber internet that comes in from the pole. My house receives all its wiring from underground. The fiber company said they couldn’t run their cables underground and I would need to be close to the pole for me to even get service. Sucks that I have to deal with comcast.
Let's address a few things here. 99.999998% of people will never use speeds faster then the slowest coax connection. It would cost billions to service those 0.000002% that need it.Irest my case.
I live in Saudi Arabia and Fiber Optic was a thing that I could purchase as an internet cable since 2011 and since then I never used anything but this and it's amazing indeed! It changed how I use and see internet forever no more unregular internet speeds or losing the internet randomly etc. and most of my friends in the US tell me how the internet in most parts in there still didn't adapt to the fiber optic for issues like how it would effect the taxes or how the cables and system is still using the old methods or how companies take monopoly on certain parts of the cities! It's sad to me because the people of the US should be the first people to benefit from this and most my friends there I knew for many years always have issues with the internet speeds and cutting out glad to see how the fiber optic starting to catch up in the normal US citizen life it should been a thing since a decade but it's better to come late than never!
@@lantrick So you had it since 1991 which is around the year I was born that's impressive but may I ask which state you used to live in when you first got it and how come you were able to get it when the internet culture back then was still slow and growing and didn't need much internet speed at least not for a normal consumer like today? I only ask because being a 1990 kid who saw how technology grew and become part of our lives these stuff always amuse me in a way and thanks for replying.
@@EridanusYT UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Sweden etc are all behind USA at internet speed Don't believe me? "Look up "list of countries with internet speeds' and open the wikipedia look Saudi arabia is alsobehind usa
@@GameboyAdvanceSP_786 Internet was invented by USA not UK And almost all of the Internet companies are US companies while UK doesn't have a single company on the internet Uk is a technological embarasment compared to america
@@GameboyAdvanceSP_786 First of all I didn't act or state that Saudi invented the fiber optic if anything I even said USA for having the silicon valley and the ones who brought Internet to the world should reap the benefits before any other country! I don't know why you being stand offish and a bit judgmental in the way you talking about the Middle East with a close minded way of thinking and just label it "backwards" plus why you blame the west for anything that may or may not happen in other regions I don't support such thinking and won't make people solve their issues and advance if they have that victim mentality and I don't think what you said is true at all the reason is I come from the city where all the oil come from and people from ALL AROUND THE WORLD mostly USA and EU live in here have kids work for their whole life so the living standards and everything you would find in USA other than alcohol or pork is provided in here for both locals and expats who live in my city! I think you should take what I said with an open mind and be less judgmental and chill a bit I'm too old for this kid's drama or trolling online (if that's what u seeking out of this) at the end of the day you could have any opinions you want on any matter or country or race but don't put words in my mouth or assume my intentions behind my words!
The animation of light reflecting on the outer glass layer should be sinusoidal - the two layers actually melt together so the difference in diopter (how much the light bends when it enters the material at an angle) reflects the light back. This is slightly more complicated since the two layers form a wave guide but changing the graphic from the triangular wave to a sinusoidal (longer, also) gives a better description. The race for fiber optics started when it was proven that glass was transparent to light and the impurities were responsible for the attenuation. Corning - then a small company in NY - found the solution: evaporate the glass and deposit it into a rod then doing it with different diopter glasses to create the wave guide. The thing about fiber optics is, like the guy said, the speed is limitted by the electronics on the tips and not by the glass itself. There's even an optical amplifier that requires no light-to-electricity conversion to work.
Usa is still kind of 3rd world in internet speed and cost for internet. In Sweden we have pure fiber and i pay 13 usd/month for PURE 1 gbit internet (1000/1000 mbit ) 90% of the sweeds have access to pure fiber in sweden since well 15 years back and about 18-19usd/month for unlimited 5 g mobile.
I added fiber and my throughput has been incredible. I avoid prunes and can still get 400mbps downloads. It takes no time at all now to empty my buffer.
But for the internet, fiber to the home is rare. I think most people have DSL and coax cable modem in major cities. I think when you ask for over 100 Mbps service, that is when they do a fiber to the home connection instead of DSL. For coax cable, it is capable of 300 Mbps.
I am getting fiber optics installed to my house next weekend from cox. Very excited. The representative said that it would be of no cost for the installation.
This is really eye opening. Always thought the US had extremely fast internet. My network provider is offering unlimited data at speeds of 200 mbps for 11 dollars per month.
I live in Mexico city, I have had fiber optic connection for the last 4 years, it provides Cable TV, telephone and 80mb internet, its enough to support 8pc and 20 wireless devices. I really thought we were the second to last to get these services, I can't believe I was wrong.
There are plenty of areas in Mexico that have sub-standard internet as well. My family lives near Zamora, Mich. and they constantly get flyers from Telmex advertising their fiber internet (Infinitum) service but its only available in certain parts of the town. They happen to be outside of their fiber footprint so they can only get crappy DSL service from them. They have an alternative, Megacable which offers a 100 Mbps connection. Not bad.
Densely populated city or even country like Singapore is the best scenario for fiber optic deployment. The rate of return per mile on capital outlay is significantly higher than US vast remote rural landscape. 🤗🤗
I already had cable in my home, and when time came for me to renew my contract, I wanted internet only, no TV. Cable TV company did not want me having only internet, so I canceled my contract and got Fibre. In Serbia, I have 500/100 Mb/s for 15€ per month.
We got AT&T Fiber 500 and really loving it. It’s actually faster than what they are advertising. We are getting speeds well over 600mbs upload and 600 mbs download speeds.
I think my neighborhood and the ones near me are getting upgraded to fiber in the hopefully near future. I saw a cabinet (not sure what the technical term is) installed several months ago not too far from my area. For several months, there was nothing on it, and just last week they put some labels on it that say AT&T fiber. Not sure how long it will take, but I can't wait to get rid of comcast.
Fiber Optic is already the backbone of the internet and it's what replaced Cable over a decade ago. SONET is the next big leap however it's expensive to deploy
Yep Corporate GREED, no accountability of the funds paid out to them in grants and no real competition due to exclusive monopolies. As well as all the BS redtape in the last mile installation
Its indeed ridiculous how much it costs for internet connection here in the US. And the prices are criminal. Having grown up in a country served with fast fiber networks at low loow prices, I can agree with everyone who said the greedy corporations & too much politics is to blame
The distance from New York to Los Angeles is greater than the distance from New York to Ireland. The US is an extremely large place and they will get there with fibre optics. In the meantime the US has no shortages of energy or food which many other places are going to have.
Well I'm glad I'm finally getting to get fiber installed in my neighborhood! We have a new fiber ISP come into town about a year ago and they're building out infrastructure across town. Just got a notice about a week ago that their crews will be working in our neighborhood installing services. We don't have a date yet, but I can't wait to get it installed! I'm getting rid of Comcast as soon as I can!
My internet is still delivered via Coax, so no it didnt replace Docsis cable internet. While cable providers use Fiber to the node, its still an RF based service and its all Coax from the node to the house. Still suffers from limited bandwidth especially on the upload side.
How can it be the backbone if only 43 percent of consumers have it? I can speak first hand, it's not available where i live. Furthermore, i just moved about 5 miles and i can't even get access to cable internet!? Century Link DSL is the only thing available and it sucks...badly.
@@j.r.a.inthacut8148 By backbone he doesn't mean to the customers homes. The core of most if not all ISP's networks is Fiber. The backbone excludes the "Last mile" which is how the customer is connected. All major ISP's use Fiber across their network. In the case of Coax ISP's like Comcast the Fiber comes out to the neighborhood and converts to coax at the node. VDSL is normally Fiber to the node as well, unless you live next to the phone companies central office.
Fiber internet went from "I'm only available in dense cities" to "I'm in your walls". Spectrum had a tight hold in my area and charged us $60 a month for 100mbp/s Frontier fiber showed up quickly during the pandemic and I'm now paying $45 for 500mbp/s. Had to upgrade my router to handle the new speeds.
Although this report is a year old, there have been some recent developments. Here in GA the state was awarded 1.3 billion of the 65 billion that Biden approved for broadband projects country wide. A bill was passed in GA last year allowing the EMCs (electric companies) to provide internet. In my neighborhood, one of the EMCs partnered with Conexon to have fiber installed to their customers. But where we live our EMC did not, so we weee left out. I contacted my elected officials and my rep at the EMC and Spectrum is now installing fiber to serve my area.
Yep. My town in northern California is getting fiber internet installed. Its a slow process, but I'm just glad we're getting a different company other than AT&T or Comcast. As soon as its available at my house, I'm dropping Comcast.
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In the US the key take away is the telecommunications contracts in place that limit competition and choice in most medium to low density areas. I'm a IT professional and work with datacenter fiber a lot and it's 100% the way to go. However, for homes, telecommunications companies are the issue in most cases. They aren't willing to build large fiber networks with low subscriber density. Starlink is way more important than the guy in the video is stating. More important is that Starlink v2 will be a massive improvement in both throughput and cost to orbit. Some of the costs that he mentioned are early numbers. Today all Starlink satellites are launched on reused boosters which greatly reduces costs. Starlink v2 will us starship, which is a fully reusable rocket so only the fuel costs are not recoverable. Starlink will ultimately be the largest single network in the future and likely eclipse fiber in every way.... Speed of deployment, flexibility and over all reach. It will allow highspeed data transfer between the Earth, Moon, and Mars.
You are right about Starlink -- more important that this "government subsidy promo" is willing to admit. Not sure that it will rival fiber throughput -- but it is significant.
Starlink will never ever beat fiber solutions when it comes to latency nor will it ever scale out to multigig speeds. Starlink is good for what it is. No need to bring it up in a conversation of Fiber.
@@awarepenguin3376 I use to work at GTE and United telephone. And then I worked for Cellular One in Orlando. I would never thought that back in 1986 those complicated cell phones would ever rival the simplicity and reliability of land lines...
We still rely on landlines, and we still need more of it. Cell and WiFi are relatively short extensions of what its landlines haul. The only places I know that have to hop towers with directed microwave radios are areas where there's a local problem with snipping and stealing the physical cables.
@@awarepenguin3376 not a single person in the US needs a multi gig network connection, let alone fiber to the home. there are far cheaper option to bring at least 100mb internet to rural areas. this obsession of fiber to the home is silly when most modern copper systems to the home can support well over gigabit connections. most of the back bone infrastructure is already fiber anyways.
I can't believe that I live in an average residential neighborhood that is mostly working class.....and I get Gigabit upload/download, unmetered for $69/month because of AT&T fiber. This would've be unheard a decade or so ago.
As someone who installs internet and telephone wires for a living I can tell you fiber is a little harder to install than copper. Fiber is heavier, its more fragile/occasionally breaks and you need expensive equipment to make the final connection/test the final connection. Connecting fiber is not as simple as plugging it into a socket you often have to melt two strands of fiber together or use special epoxies. You also must not look directly at a strand of fiber when its powered because even though you can't see the laser light coming out of the fiber it can still blind you. However fiber does have some major advantages a fiber cable can handle much more bandwidth, much less energy loss and its a much faster light speed connection. Single mode fiber can hold so much bandwidth that no device known to man can overload it. The copper wires we run need a signal boost after hundreds of feet but a fiber line can go many miles without a signal boost. Given all these advantages I'm suprised we haven't found a way to make fiber more affordable. I do get paid well to install fiber but that is because I'm a member of the IBEW (electrician union).
My friend in Denmark uses fiber optic internet. He has an extremely fast connection with zero latency. He claims to pay less than I do for 12 mbps broadband. The USA is way behind other countries when it comes to fast reliable internet.
I like how everyone knows corning as the company that makes the gorilla glass of iphones but they made it for Samsung first. Apple initially refused to use it and eventually gave in. Apples first 4 iPhones used regular glass. Plus Corning is a huge company and really old. They make glass for everything Including labs. They are a very old company.
@@hectorcardenas2171 How so? Sure it controls 73% of the smartphone glass market but the overall glass market it controls only 45%. The other 55% is mostly 4 Asian brands and one Irish brand. It's the market leader not a monopoly. Like how Coke controls about 40% of the soda market. It's the market leader but not monopoly. Apple initially refused to only use the glass because they wanted something cheaper but once Samsung started running ads like , made with Corning gorilla glass and taking shares apple went to Corning and became it's second biggest customer. There is no bad blood between both brands. After that Samsung stopped running those ads since both used Corning.
Geez its embarassing seeing US lag behind so much in this important sector and its coming from a person who is in developing world, i got fiber like 6 years ago to my house free of cost from my internet provider now almost all the internet comes with fiber in India (at least in citys) rite now i am paying like 9$ for 100 Mbps unlimited plan
US is ranked very high speed indexes. The idea that the US is slow is not even close to being true. Many of the countries that present their data tend to leave out rural areas where the US tends to cover them. Not every country does that but the vast majority do. People cannot expect to live in the middle of texas and get the same speeds as New York City.
Mississippi has increased leaps and bounds in the last few years in fiber availability to rural areas. A recent law was removed preventing local utility providers from providing internet access. With the big companies such as ATT, Comcast and the like they never found it beneficial to them to provide access to rural areas. Now the local power companies are laying down hundreds of thousands of miles of fiber to underserved areas. Parents and me back in high school living with them was limited to satellite internet where we only got maybe 5Mbps, now they have symmetric gigabit fiber. Now if only we can pull down all those really unsightly bundles of phone line ATT has up that they never maintain and transition to phone over fiber.
I have fiber optic service in San Carlos, Guaymas, Sonora, Mexico. I could not get it in the Ballard neighborhood in Seattle, Washington. Now in Shoreline, Washington - less than 2 miles north of Seattle, I still cannot get fiber optic internet - only ADSL, Cable, or Cellular. Fiber optic is less than 300 meters away, but the TelCo will not bring it. It isn't just Europe and Asia that are ahead of the USA on fiber optic internet.
Es lo mismo en Mexico. Ahorita estoy de vacaciones en Acambaro, GTO y en la casa de mis abuelos, no tienen acceso a fibra optica. Mi tia tiene una conexion de 30 Mbps por Telmex.
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@@squidwardo7074 Sweden is a technlogical embarasment compared to America Software or Cell Phone or Smart phone or Latptop or Search engine - US has plenty of companies while Sweden doesn't even have one Sweden should learn from USA and learn how to create technologies Sweden is ajoke of the world.
The US is not lagging and people need to stop believing certain media hype around issues. Trust me when I tell you that very few Americans would actually like living in other countries when they realize the differences and how wealthy life is in America.
In Poland I have fiber Internet in my home (6$ per month) and also in my parents house (11$ per month). Works great. Maybe 20 years ago I had Internet through radio connection (terrible quality) and later through copper cable connection (works fine, but hamsters bite through copper cable few times a year and needs to be repaired).
@@adamwest7953 A lot of people will use these single case examples to say that they are better of than the US. The reality is that the median income in the US is $70,000 with one in three households being in excess of $100,000 per year. A VW Golf GTI will cost about $29000 in the US and in Germany the same car starts at $40000. This is the same through the whole of the US economy with things being far cheaper.
The problem is that the country's largest internet provider- Comcast- appears to be stuck on using 2000 era coaxial cable for all installations. My parents just moved to a new, high-end condo complex and all that is offered is Comcast Coaxial. Much of this metro area is only serviced by Coaxial copper by Comcast.
@@geoffwitt4227 When you talk about Coaxial you are really talking about the last mile and not the main infrastructure. A place like washington DC is going to be hard to get fibre into the homes. Most of the data from other countries is very misleading because it gives the impression that every home has it it installed when in fact it is their infrastructure system that has it not the home connection. A lot of these countries did not even have a well developed Coaxial system and rely on copper phone lines.
@@bighands69 Correct. But wouldn't several coaxial connections greatly slow the speed? I have a 100 foot coaxial from the box. Another one in the house walls. Another from the outlet to the room. Then another to the router. with my FIOS system, in my apartment I have fiber all the way to my router. It is cheaper and much faster. But the only offer this in about 25% of the metro area.
@@geoffwitt4227 Degradation of the signal can occur but it would not be that significant. The number of users on a cable would be of far more significance than the actual impedance of the connections. A Coaxial can perform up to 500 Mbps and with future technology it could be higher.
The hurdles to municipal run fiber are such B.S. They’re usually the cheapest and fastest _and_ tend to be profitable. Edit: Not to mention, with all the places I’ve moved to, a majority of the times I saw great competitive prices and customer service from Comcast was in areas that offered fiber as an alternative. It’s a real threat to their monopolistic hold (thanks to how coax is setup).
Our competitor has FTTH in areas we don't. We offer fair pricing, better services, better technicians and faster repair times. They don't impact us much. People that change ISPs for a dollar a month savings aren't worth keeping. IDK about in Comcast areas but we overbuild the cable plant with fiber anyway. Turn it on and slowly migrate the customers over. There back end platform is the same and if they pay for the same internet speeds they had on cable, they don't notice any difference anyway.
Sorry but it is very expensive to put the cable into the homes and overcome the last mile. Many homes are not the same and do not have easy access ports. If you already have a cable connection that makes the issue of feeding to the home easier but it does not overcome the issue of the building not having good containment for new cables being added.
@@bighands69 Not sure what you are getting at. I never said anything was cheap because it isn't. People that want fiber for the sake of wanting fiber think that it is cheap as they would like it to be with their imagination. Almost every home has coax, but if they need fiber, they run it to the house and coil it up outside. The tech comes and attaches a fiber to the side of the house and drills into a central location and everything else is wireless, the TV boxes, the phone, everything. This way you don't need fiber to every room. I get speeds from 350 to 500 on wifi everywhere in my house and 200mbs in the back yard. Back in the day, we ran fiber to the house and then convert it to phone, data, and cable on the outside of the house and connect to the existing wiring. That was 2900 per house in 1999. Now, drill a hole and install a plug for the fiber and then plug in the wifi gateway and you are done. In my area, once the people using old equipment are upgraded to a single gateway the signal will be changed to get 1.5gig down and 500mb up for starters and then it will increase to symmetrical 1.5gig. all over cable. On pure fiber you can get 8gig/8gig but that speed is to show they are the fastest, not that anybody NEEDS it.
@@Todd.T Everything hinges on the area and how expensive it would be. If a dwelling has good cable containment then new fibre cables can be feed in but if the containment is already full up with cables there will be no new cables installed. Many properties may have sealed cable installations making it impossible. The issue with this is the varying degrees of complexity with installation.
I have fiber to the house, on the outskirts of a decent sized midwest city. For 1000Gb Down I pay $95. Not really much considering, the Internet houses most of what we used to do with a TV/Cable. I've completely cut cable for that reason. I can get 2000Gb Down for only $20-30 more. However, EVERYBODY in America should have access to Fiber - the reason it's not the case is because these telecom giants overcharged our grandparents (AT&T I'm looking at you) to our parents (Verizon I see you) to now us (F.U. Comcast) and have never came up with a strategy to reinvest technology or resources into certain areas. Its all about the dollar!!
I worked as waiter where Donaled Keck resideded. I had the pleasure to wait on his family many times, and he was always a great guest! I later found out he was one of the people who came up with this technology! He has a presidential metal!
I'm also anxious about fiber optic (color) processing units for computing... which should do at least 256x256x256-1 faster than binary, but... at a consistent speed because of no overheating... whereas the crossing of those colors is how it will do all the calculations instantly and a major bonus on top of that... we get our batteries able to last maybe many times longer.
While the connections between the nodes of a computer may get really fast results from transferring data the actual circuits are still not going to be fibre based. Even Fiber optic networks still have to use traditional switching networks.
@@bighands69 That I fully understood since the first time fiber optics got introduced as a network service. But then again... we now even have slow-mo fitted inside of those very tiny GoPros at 240fps whereas 60fps is the gold standard. Keypoint is... there will be many times far fewer traditional switches in being replaced by non-friction optical blending that if it were to a 100x100 grid... then maybe 10 sensors outside of those are the traditional switches.
I live in a pretty big city metro area (pop 4M) and fiber only covers about 57% of residents with only 23% at 1GB or better. 5 years ago when I tried to get fiber I was told it would be 2-3 years for them to reach my area of the city. I am still waiting and the overall city coverage is only 10% higher than it was 5 years ago. Even with a Comcast near-monopoly in most of the area (if you want >=1GB service), companies aren't willing to make the investment to lay fiber - again, big city = expensive construction costs. Now this video is telling me it could be 10-20 years??? I would easily switch to fiber if it was available at about the same cost... however, Comcast/Xfinity cable rarely has problems for me and I get ~1GB performance... it would just be nice to have better tech and options.
Well, Comcast loves ripping off people and charging big bucks for their aging copper network, they of course have no incentive to deploy fiber, they have a monopoly which is not examined or challenged by the government. Biden obviously does not understand this and thinks they they need to pay a few billion bucks to these monopolies to get an improvement.
@@nigratruo I agree with that mostly, but I don’t want Comcast to lay fiber, I want competition. It will likely take the government intervention, but hard to lay blame on the current President when we have had a few others before that didn’t do anything either. Plus, you know Republicans won’t pass anything if they can block it.
Im suprised Im from Mexico and almost every single Mexican city has optic fiber coverage through out the whole city and the prices are good the most expensive option I found was of $27 a month and the second most expensive 14 a month with 1gb or better
@@vaderwashere365 Well, the politicians of course get br****, I mean lobbied, i.e. paid to look the other way and do nothing against a monopoly like Comcast. That is why monopolies are so bad: They eventually have so much money that they can pay to block all competition. I don't know what happened to trust busting and anti kartel legislation, it hasn't done anything in many decades, leaving real monopolies alone and to fester and harm the whole market, while the go after Apple, Google and Facebook for their alleged monopolies. A real monopoly is if you have no choice, you can only buy from one source, if you want or not.
@@moctezumaaleg2008 The US gets life better in every other aspect. The US is number 7 on the global indexes of internet speed. The US is extremely large with a very dispersed population so it tends to mean that there will be areas that do not do as well in some areas of economics.
An excellent story. As a simple "end user" our household story is, we just switched to a fiber based internet service via a company called Sparklight (in Longview, TX). In addition, and this is CRUCIAL, we upgraded our wifi to a mess network. Now, our internet speeds are amazing! Information pops up immediately on websites. 4K videos play with no interruptions via web based TV services like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+ and others. It's night and day compared to our former coax based cable company service. Ironically, the last, short connection between our fiber modem and the computer in our home office, is a copper CAT-6 cable!?! Yet, even that connection is MUCH faster due to the initial fiber service. As more and more Americans do get connected in what they call "the last mile." by fiber, I believe it will be a tsunami effect of consumers hooking up where available.
Mesh networks are great, I’d also say getting WiFi 6 router/s if you have mostly modern devices is a great call with fiber. Even with 1 WiFi 6 router in a ~4,000 sq foot house my desktop gets 500-600 megabytes per second up and down, no Ethernet Cat 6 supports 10 GBPS @ 250 mHz…. So luckily, it’s highly unlikely you have the bandwidth to maximize its throughput speeds
At this point I start to look at the social impact of all this. Connectivity has seemly done more harm than good for people. We’re connected more than ever and society seems to be moving backwards then forward. Im starting to think this is all a mistake.
A lot of people share your mindset. On the surface, I would agree. Thanks for sharing. Another way of looking at it, though, is that hyper-connectivity is just underscoring problems that have always been there. It's also causing things to seem worse than they are. Steven Pinker shows data on this subject, and it's really interesting: ruclips.net/video/yCm9Ng0bbEQ/видео.html
@@mhc4124 im a technologist, hell my pfp is the ethereum logo. I’m just sorta waking up the reality of it all. Humanity is better, yes, but not at the rate we should be. Its looking like were already about to screw it up
ISPs are more interested in data caps than providing better service. That's why it makes sense to have Elon put thousands of satellites in low earth orbit than regulate the monopolies.
The local telco hung a coil of fiber beside the house about 5 years ago. But since we get phone and internet through our cable provider the fiber isn't connected. The telco is just about done fiber rollout for all the major cities in the province and have been moving onto smaller and smaller towns many with populations under 2000.
Yet, most of America are still capped at 30-50mbps. If you have multiple devices connected, you're looking at 5mbps. America is decades behind on every infrastructure you can think of.
As a Telecommunications worker for many years I can tell you it's criminal how much money these companies make and how little they are willing to pay for contracts to the actual builders. Telecommunications workers desperately need to unionize if they ever wish to achieve the success the lineman have.
Sadly but true
They would just transfer new costs to consumers...
C.W.A....
60$/mo for DSL or Fiber...how is that even the same price.
ISP networks need to be broken back up into regional players and never be allowed to consolidate because that's not their job. I'm a firm believer that the only "large" companies allowed should be investing/holding companies as they can prop up the companies.
The US Gov in the late 1980s sought to make the US the worlds most fiber connected country in the world and passed laws in 1992 giving about 400 Billion dollars to the telecoms to build fiber networks to build the entire country a vast network of fiber capable of 10Gb/s+ speeds for every person within 10 years. The companies pocketed almost all of it and said they couldn't actually do it afterwards. So the next time you see some company shilling for money from tax payers over fiber. Remember they were supposed to have 100% fiber internet at gigabit plus speeds by the early-mid 2000s, 20 years ago now. Their complete and utter lack of proper investment in their networks at the rates they charge is such an absurd sum of money that they could more than pay for that right now. Unfortunately the MO right now for these publicly traded companies is most profit for least money spent so until the government sets them a deadline of suspension of license to operate within the US within say 10 years, they will never do it for another 30-40 years.
I am personally a person who almost always favors the private sector, but this model of operation has desperately failed the citizens of the USA. I am strongly of the opinion the US Gov should just build it all out and then rent it to the ISPs while capping how much profit they can make off their customers with flat fees. Basically the infrastructure should be nationalized until the ISPs renting fees have paid off the original costs of construction. Then they can purchase the old infrastructure/equipment for legacy systems while the gov builds out/upgrades for the next generation. An alternative to this is that the US Gov could instead just start flinging money at new start up locally based ISPs to start a pricing war with the larger ones. This would cost the tax payer less than footing the entire bill all over again.
And when they cry wolf about why they are getting absolutely bent over by the government, should ask them why they didn't just honor their half of the deal couple decades prior...
Its one thing in a long long list of BS things that are plaguing this country compared to many other in the first world. Corruption.
Came here to say exactly this.
Yep! So glad some people don’t have the memory of a goldfish like most Americans seem to have. These are ISPS are completely corrupt and useless. The government needs to take a more active role in these massive undertaking because the private companies are too shortsighted and rotten.
I worked for the phone company ten years. This is accurate
Now we are stuck with monopolies in pretty much every market when it comes to local ISPs. And like this video stated 18 states have laws that were paid for by ISPs to make municipal ISPs illegal to protect their monopoly. Nothing worse then crony capitalism.
@@robier We pioneered broadband . We should be number one but for these corrupt telecoms and their lobbying against competition.
I like how they report on fiber as if it's new and not half a century old. It's pretty embarrassing that the US spent all the money to develop all these technologies and then failed to actually deploy them in a reasonable time span
The product that you get in America is never the most optimal, always the most profitable.
Funny. Considering America has more fiber to the home than any other Western country.
A famous quote "Anyone can make a plan but can they execute it?" I guess one day the news folks will become fully aware and admit they have limited knowledge. It does take time for the cost efficiency to be fully realized. Up Front costs are steep.
Right, America invented majority of these technologies for other countries to use them. Again, though it's hard to put all the US in one boat fiber has been deployed in many places for a while..
That's the problem with the United States. There are so many highly sophisticated technologies that have been developed, are very obscure, and also hardly known at all, but they are not being made available widely in public use and as public infrastructure... In large part because of the lack of political will for it...
This should have been largely completed in the early 2000s. I got my tech cert and they never implemented fiber, they dragged it for decades since and they still artificially slowing speeds on current fiber networks.
yes and you better buy some stock shares now
@@baysidejr exactly. A big scam. News acting like this is a new discovery. Tge implementation of fiber is literally 20 years late right now. They are offering speeds that's should have been given 20 Yeats ago. I was training and got my Cisco certified network associate certificate and learned all this stuff a long time ago. And the fact they are currently substantially slowing speeds and charging high price for a cheaper network to manage than cable
So they throttle people !??
because they can charge more for satellite.
Yeah and all these ISPs took billions in subsidies from the government and never fulfilled their end of the bargain. They decided to sit on copper and coax lines that were already run into people's houses and just milk it instead of what they were supposed to be doing....which was deploying fiber.
Watching this makes me feel like I've been transported back in time 20 years
USA is all about grifting, lobbying and letting the ISPs have factual monopolies in many areas.
Fortunately the Democrats started to change this with Bidens "Build back better".
It is time people wake up and make the politicians work for the voters, not to be a part of the corp. lobby/grifter system.
Here in NZ our government rolled out Fibre nationally and we went from having one of the worst internet speeds & prices to some of the best in the world.
Yeah but us is bigger than a small island like nz
@@ihmpall People used to make the exact same comments about our small size too as to why we never had fast internet. "NZ is too small and isolated of a country to spend Billions installing fibre to every home". Its all excuses and bad ones
@@ihmpall the USA has 36 people per sq km whilst NZ has 18 people per sq km. Looks like NZ is much more difficult due to density than the USA. USA (and Australia) have no excuses.
@@ihmpall Eating up that corporate bs and regurgitating to others I see 😂😂
@@stevel9627 Australia did the same with NBN but they said it's horrible.
I think it has to do with scale. Difficulty in installation increases exponentially the larger the area you have to cover.
We’re so behind on this in USA. Should’ve made it available to everyone a decade ago.
the government tried this before and the money was wasted on shareholder! the utilities companies are corrupt
was gonna say the same, fiber optics has been standard for a while here in canada
In what way would your life change with faster internet? Please, enlighten me.
Same in Australia. Our previous conservative government cancelled the progressive government’s plan to install fiber to every home by 2020.
In 2013 when the conservatives won government they stopped all fiber unless you had $20k to install it yourself. Now in 2022 we are hoping the new government to fix this mess.
It’s discriminatory that only 50% of Australians have fiber (similar to the USA) whilst the rest are on 1800s technology.
Most countries already went on fiber a decade ago.
It's embarrassing how bad the internet service is in the US.
You haven't been to Australia have you
@@AvoidTheCadaver you're comparing one of the most urbanized countries in the world that can have cities and ppl living everywhere relative to nation that's like 80% desert.
America has more fiber than any other Western nation. Europe/Canada/Oceania need to catch up to US.
@@justinbrah627 are your parents brother and sister?
@@AvoidTheCadaver Australia's internet is actually worse than the US? I didn't know it was possible!
Yes early adoption of cable tv has played a key role in lagging fiber-to-the-home adoption in the US, BUT the main reason is simply GREED. The writing has been on the wall for a long time now for coax, but providers and their overlords are milking out traditional last mile coax cable till the very last drop to maximize profits and postpone capital expenditure on upgrades, that is all.
Never forget that CNBC is owned by America’s most hated cable company/ISP: Comcast. No wonder they don’t come clean about their role in keeping internet service slow and expensive.
Klickup
@@rolandschindlerii9245 what?
There is a belief that fiber to the home is not really as necessary as people think. While fiber as a technology is king the average customers proximity to a fiber node and running coax off of that provide pretty much a similar type of data experience. The proximity reduces the SLA requirements which already are low for a residential customer as compared to a business customer.
@@abaoaqu1333 rigggght…and nowadays with everyone in the family wanting to steam to their own device and kids doing videoconferencing and schoolwork online, and so many more people working from home…it would be really nice to have that fiber about now. 12 or 20Mbit upload speeds and 200MBit download speeds are really not gonna cut for people moving big files or everyone steaming 4K. I want fiber in my house and I want it 20 years ago. I want symmetric 1GBit speeds instead of this throttled garbage slowness I’ve been stuck with.
I can guarantee that the issues with fibre roll out in the US is down to monopolies. Companies have customers by the balls and nothing is going to change that. The limited roll out of Google fibre proved that
Frontier is my only provider and it’s their DSL. It’s slow but their fiber is coming to me Q4 this year. Whole build in my state is government funded. I’m rural as well
Nothing to do with monopolies in the US. It is just very labor intensive and expensive to achieve the last mile.
Many people live with in a mile of fibre but the cost of connecting to their home simply is too high. If people were presented with the upfront cost of those connections they would run a mile from them.
@@bighands69 It does have to do with monopolies still. My community has a monopoly in the sense that AT&T dug, setup all their equipment here and won’t allow anyone else to connect, monopolies are illegal in California but they find their ways. Spectrum, frontier, etc all day on the system it shows AT&T has some sort of agreement when I try to switch.
@@Jxhimlol same thing here in Phoenix with only Cox available without any fiber installation nearby
New Zealand has one fibre installer nation wide lol.
Got AT&T Fiber last year and its been amazing. Not ONE drop or service interruption the entire year. Haven't had to touch the modem once. It just works. I really hope they build out the infrastructure for everyone to get on fiber over the old cable/DSL systems. I have 1gig and that's more than enough for me but I'm seeing ISPs releasing 5/10gig lines for home users, crazy.
Its cheaper than copper to put glass in the ground. Its happening.... I know many rural companies have it.
5 to 10 gig lines aren't crazy at all when you consider that those are preferred for people who stream a lot or have large families. There are also internet pirates who use high bandwidth lines like that because they download a lot of files obviously while using a VPN especially if their ISP is comcast.
Wait till they raise your price almost double when the instruction period is over. I had fiber for $50 for a year and. A half and then raised it to $90 with no notice. They were the only fiber option since municipalities can't build their own fiber like in Europe.
@@_gungrave_6802 You sound like you speak from experience. Pirate much?
@@_gungrave_6802 5 gig is absolutely crazy lol literally no average home user is even close to fully using a gig let alone 5
The reason why they can't get fiberoptic installers is because they aren't willing to pay for it. They are only paying $18-20 an hour "last mile" home installers and $20-25 for infrastructure installers. This is not competitive pay for wire workers, electricians which do similar pulling wires and plugging cables in a last mile installation and running cables on poles earn double that.
They hire contractors for installation of plant. The companies are paying good money to the contractor. Talk to the contractor who is not paying up...
@@dondiego124 Sorry thats what I was trying to say, electricians get fiber certified and get paid double to do the same job. They can't get fiber installers because they aren't willing to pay what it costs, they are trying to cheep out.
That’s Uber eats money!!!!!
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:38-39
its union vs contractors the end.
Have Verizon FIOS fiber in NYC and it's the best internet service I've ever used. Extremely fast and extremely reliable. Super low ping and hardly any packet loss ever.
Easy for NYC not so easy for many other areas but the US will get there at some point.
Here in Australia the government built a "state of the art" broadband network using existing 50 year old copper cabling which was delayed many years, over budget billions of dollars and obsolete before it was even started.
Australia need to take a hard look at NZ and their infrastructure. I bet it is related to bad politics and somewhat to the distances involved.
The fiber backbone should be a government task, and not something you leave to monopolies maximizing profit in the dense built areas only.
Investment in fiber is something all countries should do, as they do with road and they did with the old telephone system.
I've had fiber for around 3 years now, and we were lucky to have been covered by fiber before the pandemic. We started at 25mbps upload and download. Thanks to competition between ISPs here in the Philippines, my current speed is now at 300mbps upload and download for around $40 per month, and that is bundled with TV and a landline phone. Also very happy to be covered by 5G which gives me around 200mbps download speed during the rare instances we get an internet outage.
Same. in India I pay $14 roughly for 150 MBPS with smart tv and landline.
and theres the single biggest motivation (which is driven by greed) -- theres is no actual competition in the 'free market' of the usa. None.
Here in Nepal we pay around 14$ for 300 Mbps internet with IPTV and other bundling services that comes with the internet package.
In Turkey, I pay 9$ for 1000 Mbps Download 20 Mbps Upload speed. Of course, the reason why it is so cheap is that I bought it with a 2-year contract. Currently the same internet package is 17$
@@Linus76 Right lmao, as if you’d know anything about technology development and how asymmetrical it often is as a result of competition. It’s as if competition is not the reason why 60-75% of humanity’s technological innovations came out of thin air! Stupidity at its finest.
Fiber needs to be the goal for any major ISP in the next 3 years, there is absolutely no reason fiber should not be nationwide. For example monopolies like Cox communications here in Arizona have little to no competition in Phoenix and other metro cities (Lumen/CenturyLink use DSL for 99% of their network and cap out at 50mbps down and 10mbps up)
I have fiber optic at my home for more than 6 years wich internet over 500mb. I live in Portugal and fiber is nationally widespread!
I have CenturyLink DSL and am lucky to get 1.2mbps. It's hell.
Cable internet is second best to fibre optic, but cable internet is trash and overpriced.
@@slowanddeliberate6893 most "cable" internet is actually cabel/Fibre hybrid plant.
Here in Romania for 5dollars per month I got 500mbs. For 8dolars i got 1giga. And now 1company promise 10giga for 12dollars
Fiber to the home is an absolute game changer. I have had Fiber at home for 5 years. It hasn't gone down once. During the Texas Winter storm I didn't have electricity for a week....but my fiber was lit! 2GB SYMMETRICAL is mind blowing. Everything happens instantly, and cloud based backups are almost as fast as a local backup. Of course in order to utilize the full capacity, one needs to update to a multi gigabit home network.
where do you live?
@@squidwardo7074 Austin, TX
How did you power your modem with no power?
@@loytowse8140 I have a whole home backup generator system :) But grid was totally down.
2Gbps up and down?. Wow. And how much are you paying and also who is your ISP?. Also how much do you usually consume a month?.
The main reason why Americans are not fully on fiber is just like a lot of other issue the US have, "free market", money first, people come second ( from the bottom up ) ... if The US can learn a thing or two from other countries like Sweden, the USA can be much better
The US has more fiber to the home than Sweden has homes.
US has more fiber to the home than any other Western country.
Sit your ass down.
A late-stage "Free Market" just means the freedom of incumbent strongmen to eradicate competition, form cartels, and fix prices.
@@doujinflip So a more powerful government will fix this?
Technologically? Let's say you are from Sweden
In top 10 biggest tech companies of the world, USA has 5 while Sweden has zero
The score is 5-0 in favor of USA
Sweden is a tiny irrelevan bakwate lake.
If we were to learn from Sweden, then we would be a technological embarasment like Sweden with literally zero companies in the top 10. Thankfully we don't follow Sweden.
The US covers 3,717,792 square miles, Sweden covers 173,860 square miles. Geography has a lot to do with limits of implementing infrastructure too. Not just money grubbing "free market". Same holds true for things like public transit systems.
I remember working for a fiber optic company 20 years ago. It's amazing how much has changed. Cost has always been the predominant factor when installing fiber optics so that part hasn't changed.
Here in Singapore, we’ve had fibre since like the 2010s. Almost everyone here uses fibre. It helps that the fibre optic cables were laid by the Gov, unlike the US where the telco is in charge of laying the fibre optic cables.
Singapore square kilometers: 728.6
United States square kilometers: 9,384,000,000
Yeah, it's totally just a matter of the government vs private business...smh
Singapore is rich as well as small
easy to install anything fast.
The distance from New York to Las Angeles is greater than the distance from New York to Ireland.
Most people do not understand the scale of the US.
@@nemesiszz
The US is extremely large.
@@cyclopentadiol2923 india has also had Fiber for nearly a decade with extensive coverage…
It isn't just bandwidth that makes fibre attractive. It is also its ability to transmit long distances without repeaters, 1000's of miles. A repeater needs power, so requires undersea cables carry electrical power along with the fibre.
Terrestrial fiber needs amplification about every 80km, with special Raman amplification you can reach upwards of 160km between amps.
It is also the amount of issues you have with fiber. There is practically none compared to Coax plant
This is not accurate, even with Fiber signal degrades after a certain distance and needs to be amplified whether passively or actively.
@@abaoaqu1333 RA = Read Again. Nobody claimed that fibre could go an indefinite distance.
@@scottfranco1962 Ok. but you did say 1000s of miles and that isn't happening. Not only do you have distance loss, you have splice losses to add as well. Also, you can't get a straight run back to the main site which usually doubles the length in a straight run. But typically a large city doesn't need more than 2-3 main sites. The advantage is OPEX due to not needing electricity.
Now there are more and more people work from home, reliable high speed internet is becoming an essential need. For online applications, video streaming, all need broadband that does not drop in speed when everyone in the city are online at the same time. Fiber is the best in keeping the speed. I have fiber, and I got a look at what it is in technology -- I was digging in my backyard and my shovel hit the fiber. It is hard plastic outside and inside looks like clear hard plastic. I only cut the outside skin of the fiber and I quickly covered it up. Internet is work, ordering food, entertainment ... all came through that plastic wire.
🤣 You have admitted to damaging fiber cable on the internet, now pay the damages.
I've been using Airtel FTH (fibre-to-home) in India 🇮🇳 since at least 4 years. its reliability is unmatched. And the downtime is minimal.
I agree, and we get more speed than promised
@ozicrypto G Except hygiene.
@ozicrypto G Tell that to the dalits!
@ozicrypto G UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Sweden etc are all behind USA at internet speed
Don't believe me? "Look up "list of countries with internet speeds' and open the wikipedia look
@ozicrypto G Better food? No
US ranks 9 in GDP per capita
India ranks 134 in GDP per capita
way way way behind
"80% of the cost is in installation" "eventually fiber networks are going to be needed everywhere"
gee.. its almost as if we told they gave these interviews in 1990. so what did we do? we gave the tel-cos a couple hundred billion dollars, and said "go do it" yet here we are, decades later, and we still don't have a nationwide fiber network because of the greed of private corporations to just pocket the money, and then buyback stock shares to make their bottom line and EPS look better...
Without private corporations you would have no internet.
I have fiber but it didn't work like advertised.
It turned out that the box that was connected to the fiber was installed incorrectly.
But after it was done again I now have clean, stable, super fast internet.
Great for increasing my influence over this world.
Alrighty. You're a year in or so, yeah? How's it going? How's the price and speed compare to what you had before?
They talking like fiber is available to everyone when it isn't even close. And it's not just rural communities. I live in a major metropolitain area and fiber isn't even available in my neighborhood, nor the one down the street, nor the one beside that. Once again policy is either looking out for the super poor or the super rich and leaving us in the middle out here ... like always.
Exactly "the adoption of fiber in the US has been very slow" BECAUSE THE AVAILABILITY IS SLOW everywhere its available people adopt it instantly!
At our old house they ran fiber at the road in 2014, when we moved in 2018 AT&T was still saying "not enough demand to hook up to houses" every time we called.
They ran lines in front of our new house this spring, we've called twice now and they say "its not ready for deployment yet"
@@lordhosk becaus its not fiber optic cable’s
We have the same issue. I think they skip your house if your wiring goes underground or is too far from their switches. Hopefully they’ll get it out to us but not holding my breath. 100mbps cable internet isn’t too bad though it’s just upload speed isn’t great.
boohoo :(
@@lordhosk I got put on a list 8 years ago in Hot Springs Village, and they still have said NOTHING. Suddenlink/OPTIMUM is the only game in town right now. Unless you want 6Mbps DSL, that is...
"With fiber optic internet you can get speeds up to 2 Gbps".
Meanwhile in sweden we've had 10 Gbps available for private households with fiber connection since 2018.
Lucky
Same here in Portugal although it's expensive.
I have a very close friend who worked for Microsoft Sweden at 2005, at those times and when he came back to Portugal on holidays we used to compare the services between our two countries and also other EU member states... and as I can remember Sweden always had the fastest and cheapest service in Europe by far!! Ericsson Communications always placed your country in the vanguard I should say... ;) only the Japanese had something similar.
Nowadays, here in Portugal 500Mbs is the norm because its the cheapest solution offered by operators, although I see tendency to be updated to 1Gbs along this year...
Greetings from Portugal
We get it, Sweden rocks. bla bla bla
You know I heard they have Chocolate in Sweden. Fiber in the US has been around for over 50 years. Yes you can get 10GB to your house, IF you're willing to shell out the dollars. Smart move for Sweden to place 10GB to the house for future proofing. I would guess that an individual home in Sweden does not fully utilize that capacity.
Wow, a small country has fast internet go figure
In brazil fiber is everywhere. They are even installing it in rural areas where i thought there would only have satellite internet. Mind blowing.
It’s nice, they are bridging the gap. If I may ask, what speeds are you on?.
@@fancyIOP 100 mb. Download and upload. Isnt that fast but its pretty decent for what i pay which is around 100 real, same as 20 dollars.
@@theforester_ wow now that’s affordable🔥… it’s like R330 in South African money. In SA the minimum price of 100Mbps is R897(R$272.50 or $52.71). You guys have some cheap fibre internet there, wow I envy your prices. Maybe our prices will fall once the connection is national.
@@theforester_ Same in Mexico but more like $14 dollars a Month
@@theforester_
The US as a whole is higher internet speeds than Brazil. The US is an enormous place with a spread out population.
Got my uncapped & unshaped 50mbps Fibre Line 2 weeks ago, best upgrade ever and I'm based in South Africa.
Very nice video, I have worked as a Fiber Technician for more than 25 years in Silicon Valley, Working in the commercial building sector. I have been part of projects from almost every big Tech company in silicon valley. it has been a very cool journey. Someone in the comments below said something about not being paid enough for the work we do and i have to agree with that but the way to make a little bit more money is by working for a company that are part of the union such as the IBEW.
Thank you Corning for this major advance in human development. I was at GTE in software when the ISDN had not yet been "rolled out". The 1st area code pilot project was in Tampa, FL. The phone company was required by the government to allow fiber on it's phone network polls, install it, and then be charged a few cents per mile for doing so. The phone companies were on a copper-wire network. Interestingly, it was cable tv that spurred the development of fiber, while telco further developed wireless. It is just miraculous to see this quantum leap forward.
In India at my Village we got Power, Landline telephone just 17 year back. Now we have Fiber optics internet . Good 4g connection
its a gift and a curse
Lies again? Faster StarHub
@@mernkanthri3941 it's probably Corning fiber lmao
A little overlooked fiber revolution that's happening right now, thanks a lot for this video. Very well delivered 🙂
oh you mean; gutting the streets and replacing the copper with fiber? fine. 5g is faster. 6g you don't even wanna know . it will make fiber look like dial up.
@@ChickenMcThiccken well, 6G is not even a fixed standard yet and as far as I am concerned, it will be still fiber-based, won't be...
@@MrOndra112 yes; but no antennas
Yeah but here’s a bigger question…who is going to install all this fiber? Last I checked the working conditions for installers are minimum, pay is laughable, and hours are crazy long (former cable installer talking from experience). Who is installing all these cables 🤷🏾♂️?
People who want money to feed their family (who they may rarely see). The skills for the running part are minimal; termination and testing... not so much.
@@flagmichael The installations are mostly low quality. But that's definitely reflected by the pay most people are receiving.
Mexicens can instaöö easyJet Fiberglas for cheap Money but you habe to let the. In the usa
In Rwanda we have fiber internet and they charge us around $25-$40 depending with the package and it have helped alot
So at $25 it starts at which speeds? And $40 being which ones?.
There are a few companies providing. In the Northeast, Verizon does fiber to the house, previously fiber to the curb. Advertisements indicate a residential customer can get a 2Gbps connection for around $100
Here in South Africa everyone I know (in an urban area) uses fibre at home and work/school. Its roll-out has been life-changing. Typically we pay 40 dollars a month.
I would switch to fiber in a heartbeat if it was offered, but I’m limited due to to current providers in my area.
ikr
I'm not using all of my 10gbit if you want some
Is fiber a "new thing" in America? Here (Sweden) everyone has it! I mean, even old people have it, to read the news, and we have it in summerhouses and stuff. Our government decided to give every swede the possibility to get fiber in 1999! And since updates are made by changing base stations, more or less everyone have real highspeed broadband today!
No it's not new, just not widespread
South Korea has also had widespread fiber optic internet for years now
Nah, the back scratching and the payoffs in this country are stifling expansion and even some development. In many, many areas of business and industry, the deals and the favors are killing this democratic republic a penny at a time. Everyone of them thinks they are getting ahead, but we will all pay in the end, just like the way they keep supporting corrupt and connected politicians, using the dumbest arguments in history...
When I lived in the UK in the mid 2000s high speed Fibre was rolling out, and it was cheap (relatively speaking for back then). One advantage Europe has is a large population in a small concentrated area, making it quite cheap to deploy and for it to reach the majority of the population
Everyone that lives in a major city has fiber. Thing about Sweden though is it is the same size as my entire state. Don't forget that part
They've been talking about this since 25 years ago. I remember over 20 years ago when my neighbor had fiber but yet it wasn't allowed on my street. Guess what, I still like this!!
In South Africa🇿🇦 they started pushing to under serviced areas since late 2019 early 2020 and now companies are seeing that more people want fibre. Next month I will be connected and cancelling my kak 5G. I just can’t wait.
The situation in the US is very similar to the one we have here in Brazil. Here, people also associate TV with cable Internet, at least in the major cities. Fiber is becoming popular, especially with regional providers. Some companies, such as Claro (América Móvil), lie when they advertise fiber internet, when in reality fiber does not reach people's homes.
hey fellow brazilian, im an engineer at an ISP in Rio and i have to disagree that the situation here is similar to the US. if there is anything similar is that the big players (Claro, Vivo, Tim...) offer terrible customer support and will lie and screw you over at any given opportunity with hidden or undisclosed fees that you never asked for. but other than that, our situation is much different from theirs (for the better i'd say).
we actually have tons of competition here. if you live in an urban area you likely have the option to choose from several different ISPs, and if you threaten your current provider with cancelling and getting a new one you will almost always get a massive deal for the next 1 year contract (i do this every year).
at our ISP we deliver FTTH at the central metropolitan area and have hundreds of customers. over the whole state we have dozens of corporate and organization clients with big contracts, that could pick and choose from many different providers were they to offer a better price.
@@BattousaiHBr yeah, and in the rural areas too and with fibre as well
I just saw a news that says that 66% of Brazilian broadband is fiber optic. And 44% of that are from local providers. (Tecnoblog) And Claro is a problem with 23,2% of marketshare in broadband, but only 2,6% of marketshare in fiber optic.
@@sanrezende fiber optic internet from data centre connect satellite high broadband as repeater
data centre with huge satellite dish
I'm a fiber splicer we use specialized equipment to fuse two fibers together. I wish people would cover it more because it's a really cool industry.
As an ISP manager it really is.
@Shoota 305 you don't need certs for it just apply at a shop that'll teach you.
Pay is good from $25 to $75/hr if you're a towertech + fiber splicer
@Shoota 305 if you live in Washington I can hook you up with a job that will pay for bicsi. We have an entire learning center.
This made me search trough my mails. I got Fiber back in 2012 and payed 40$ for 30/30Mbit now i have 1/1Gbit and pay the same. Go' technology!🔥
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yep fireeeeeeeee it will be this time )
We have been using fibre internet in small town India for 3-4 years now ...
More fiber please! America needs to compete.
Problem with these types of stories is the use of analysts and trade groups that are tied to the industry, they neglect he fact that companies are offering fiber to the home. People want it and could use it, but they're at the mercy of the largest corporations who have not delivered and attempt to block municipal implementation.
not attempt to block municipal implementation. They DID block it, all efforts have stalled, competition was squashed by the monopoly, that is why monopolies are so bad: They use their power to block competition.
People are just making things up.
While I think we all know that wireless has its issues, which wasn't really touched on in this piece, let's focus on the difference between what coax gets you versus a fiber connection (and I am on a 1 Gb/s symmetrical fiber connection here in the USA for ~$60/mo, which is much cheaper than the coax service in my area that is inferior to this):
1. Raw speed - I actually do need the upstream. Many others may need this for things like backing up their computers to the cloud and remotely monitoring home security cameras. Cable modem can be fairly fast on the downloads, but sucks on uploads. When you do need it, it is not there just like the people who are not really your friends.
2. Latency and jitter - Cable modems can easily add 7 - 30ms of latency and can have lots of jitter as you share the connection with your neighbors. As we all use VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) and video conferencing apps, this leads to delays causing people to talk over each other excessively due to the poor quality of service as opposed to it just being rude people on the line and breakup of voice and video, which at best is annoying and worse unusable and it happens ALL OF THE TIME with cable modems, greatly harming the quality of work from home. In contrast my current symmetrical 1 Gb/s fiber connection has less than 1 ms of latency and less than 1 ms of jitter. I can see when I am doing the same things over this fiber connection, at least the other people who are also on fiber and are either wired in or have their home Wi-Fi setup properly, the connection is perfect, no delay, no breakup of voice or video. It is really clear who is also on fiber (and seeing I remotely communicate with the same people all the time, I know who has what to validate this) and who is on a cable modem. In the remote worker world where you may interview over your home Internet connection, the people with fiber have a clear leg up on the people who don't just due to the potential employer can see, hear, and understand the person on a fiber connection where often the person on a cable modem they can't or key things said are lost.
3. Packet loss - An interesting thing I came across a few years back was a kernel patch that broke TCP fast re-transmits on a server on the other side of the country from where I am at in a way where it really impacted these long distance transmissions for large data transmissions I was doing for work. On a cable modem, the problem would be triggered right away. On a fiber connection, the problem simply would not happen. I looked at the data stream with a packet sniffer and validated what was going on. The fiber link simply did not randomly lose a single packet and so there were 0 TCP fast re-transmits while the coax link dropped packets like mad and this is even with the cable modem directly wired in, no splitters, only an attenuator because the signal would be too strong for the cable modem as the cable provider has to bump up signal strength to go through people's crappy splitters and open ports bringing noise into the system, especially on the 700 MHz band used by the cable modems that is also used by 4G cellular service. (On my cable modem back when I could only get cable modem service in my area, I could see tonnes of packet loss in this 700 MHz band on those channels. It came in bursts, probably as one of my neighbors sat next to an open coax port in their home with their cell phone or maybe an old coax wire that wasn't up to snuff.) Packet loss also contributes to the poor quality of service discussed in #2.
4. Service outages - When I was on cable modem service, it regularly went out, even though I took everything off and just had the coax go straight into the cable modem, no splitters, just the right sized attenuator needed when not using a splitter. When the power went out, the cable modem service went out. I had the electronics in question on backup power, so they still had their power lights on, but the cable modem just wasn't receiving a signal anymore because the box down the street the coax cable connected to that the telco controlled did not have backup power. With my current fiber service, earlier this year for example a huge, record smashing wind storm knocked out power for an extended time. My fiber Internet service worked perfectly the whole time as I ran my equipment off of backup power. As the fiber goes straight to the CO (central office) as fiber has the reach coax does not have, the ISP was able to keep their equipment powered reliably from a central location. I even went by the CO at one point as I was doing stuff and could hear the backup generators running at the CO. In general the fiber service has been super reliable and just works. This was never the case with super finicky coax, no matter how hard I tried on my side to have the best possible experience. Those with splitters and coax running in all directions through their home must have a terrible time, even worse than my horrible experience with it. For example I have gone under homes to work on issues and have found rodents have chewed up the coax under the home. I think this is probably pretty common and this can ruin the experience around the neighborhood as coax is shared with your neighbors. This has got to cost the coax providers a fortune in service calls where my fiber service just works perfectly year after year, no service calls needed.
So yeah, coax is an obsolete technology that did not serve America the way it needed to during the pandemic nor will it moving forward. If you want and these days need a quality connection that can serve your work from home needs, you really need to have fiber to the home. There is not much else that can really compete with this in most cases. The main exception I can think of is if you live in a high rise building, there is the possibility of doing point to point wireless between tall buildings at high frequencies (such as 60 GHz) and this can work out well. Businesses can get lower frequency fixed wireless as say a lower speed backup connection, though beware of shared fixed wireless and VoIP as the two don't mix due to latency and jitter issues as well as potential high packet loss. Cellular is really not all that great and worse than cable modems, which are not really good enough. Starlink is more you don't have another option in your rural area.
coax sucks!
Unfortunately I live in an area where comcast runs a monopoly and are the only internet providers. They set whatever price they want for their inferior service. Folks that live 1 block away from me have fiber internet that comes in from the pole. My house receives all its wiring from underground. The fiber company said they couldn’t run their cables underground and I would need to be close to the pole for me to even get service. Sucks that I have to deal with comcast.
Ya no ones reading that sorry bub.
Let's address a few things here. 99.999998% of people will never use speeds faster then the slowest coax connection. It would cost billions to service those 0.000002% that need it.Irest my case.
@@TheReal_ist it was very insightful. Speak for yourself bub
I live in Saudi Arabia and Fiber Optic was a thing that I could purchase as an internet cable since 2011 and since then I never used anything but this and it's amazing indeed!
It changed how I use and see internet forever no more unregular internet speeds or losing the internet randomly etc. and most of my friends in the US tell me how the internet in most parts in there
still didn't adapt to the fiber optic for issues like how it would effect the taxes or how the cables and system is still using the old methods or how companies take monopoly on certain parts of the cities!
It's sad to me because the people of the US should be the first people to benefit from this and most my friends there I knew for many years always have issues with the internet speeds and cutting out
glad to see how the fiber optic starting to catch up in the normal US citizen life it should been a thing since a decade but it's better to come late than never!
I live in the US and have hd Fiberoptic internet delivery for 30 years.
@@lantrick So you had it since 1991 which is around the year I was born that's impressive but may I ask which state you used to live in when you first got it and how come you were able to get it when the internet culture back then was still slow and growing and didn't need much internet speed at least not for a normal consumer like today? I only ask because being a 1990 kid who saw how technology grew and become part of our lives these stuff always amuse me in a way and thanks for replying.
@@EridanusYT UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Sweden etc are all behind USA at internet speed
Don't believe me? "Look up "list of countries with internet speeds' and open the wikipedia look
Saudi arabia is alsobehind usa
@@GameboyAdvanceSP_786 Internet was invented by USA not UK
And almost all of the Internet companies are US companies while UK doesn't have a single company on the internet
Uk is a technological embarasment compared to america
@@GameboyAdvanceSP_786 First of all I didn't act or state that Saudi invented the fiber optic if anything I even said USA for having the silicon valley and the ones who brought Internet to the world should reap the benefits before any other country! I don't know why you being stand offish and a bit judgmental in the way you talking about the Middle East with a close minded way of thinking and just label it "backwards" plus why you blame the west for anything that may or may not happen in other regions I don't support such thinking and won't make people solve their issues and advance if they have that victim mentality and I don't think what you said is true at all the reason is I come from the city where all the oil come from and people from ALL AROUND THE WORLD mostly USA and EU live in here have kids work for their whole life so the living standards and everything you would find in USA other than alcohol or pork is provided in here for both locals and expats who live in my city! I think you should take what I said with an open mind and be less judgmental and chill a bit I'm too old for this kid's drama or trolling online (if that's what u seeking out of this) at the end of the day you could have any opinions you want on any matter or country or race but don't put words in my mouth or assume my intentions behind my words!
The animation of light reflecting on the outer glass layer should be sinusoidal - the two layers actually melt together so the difference in diopter (how much the light bends when it enters the material at an angle) reflects the light back. This is slightly more complicated since the two layers form a wave guide but changing the graphic from the triangular wave to a sinusoidal (longer, also) gives a better description.
The race for fiber optics started when it was proven that glass was transparent to light and the impurities were responsible for the attenuation. Corning - then a small company in NY - found the solution: evaporate the glass and deposit it into a rod then doing it with different diopter glasses to create the wave guide. The thing about fiber optics is, like the guy said, the speed is limitted by the electronics on the tips and not by the glass itself. There's even an optical amplifier that requires no light-to-electricity conversion to work.
Canada got in to fiber in the 70s. Phone was fiber in the 90s and high speed internet over 10 yrs now.
Usa is still kind of 3rd world in internet speed and cost for internet.
In Sweden we have pure fiber and i pay 13 usd/month for PURE 1 gbit internet (1000/1000 mbit ) 90% of the sweeds have access to pure fiber in sweden since well 15 years back and about 18-19usd/month for unlimited 5 g mobile.
Why does Comcast, who owns CNBC, expand fiber to more cities and suburbs?
Do you have a spare trillion to give them?
@@bighands69 ISPs all over the world dont have billions yet they have fiber. Comcast been around for decades
I added fiber and my throughput has been incredible. I avoid prunes and can still get 400mbps downloads. It takes no time at all now to empty my buffer.
But for the internet, fiber to the home is rare. I think most people have DSL and coax cable modem in major cities.
I think when you ask for over 100 Mbps service, that is when they do a fiber to the home connection instead of DSL.
For coax cable, it is capable of 300 Mbps.
I'm impressed. My home was wired with fiber since 2011. I live in Saudi Arabia. Fascinating to know that the US is 20 years in behind
Corporate Greed
I am getting fiber optics installed to my house next weekend from cox. Very excited. The representative said that it would be of no cost for the installation.
This is really eye opening. Always thought the US had extremely fast internet. My network provider is offering unlimited data at speeds of 200 mbps for 11 dollars per month.
Mine is 20-30 mbps for 30$ per month
@@redditia3202 that is pricey. Atleast it's unlimited and not data capped.
@@amitshah5097 Yep I'm in Africa (Somalia)
@Planet of the Idiots I am in India.
Wow, yours is cheaper… which country if I may ask?. That’s a golden pricing there, I wouldn’t complain at all for the rest of my life.
I live in Mexico city, I have had fiber optic connection for the last 4 years, it provides Cable TV, telephone and 80mb internet, its enough to support 8pc and 20 wireless devices.
I really thought we were the second to last to get these services, I can't believe I was wrong.
I live in the US and have hd Fiberoptic internet delivery for 30 years.
@@lantrick yeah in very limited areas. We have so much work to do (as I’m sure Mexico does too).
There are plenty of areas in Mexico that have sub-standard internet as well. My family lives near Zamora, Mich. and they constantly get flyers from Telmex advertising their fiber internet (Infinitum) service but its only available in certain parts of the town. They happen to be outside of their fiber footprint so they can only get crappy DSL service from them. They have an alternative, Megacable which offers a 100 Mbps connection. Not bad.
Densely populated city or even country like Singapore is the best scenario for fiber optic deployment. The rate of return per mile on capital outlay is significantly higher than US vast remote rural landscape. 🤗🤗
I already had cable in my home, and when time came for me to renew my contract, I wanted internet only, no TV. Cable TV company did not want me having only internet, so I canceled my contract and got Fibre.
In Serbia, I have 500/100 Mb/s for 15€ per month.
We got AT&T Fiber 500 and really loving it. It’s actually faster than what they are advertising. We are getting speeds well over 600mbs upload and 600 mbs download speeds.
I think my neighborhood and the ones near me are getting upgraded to fiber in the hopefully near future. I saw a cabinet (not sure what the technical term is) installed several months ago not too far from my area. For several months, there was nothing on it, and just last week they put some labels on it that say AT&T fiber. Not sure how long it will take, but I can't wait to get rid of comcast.
Great video and information as usual! 👍🏿
If fiber actually competed with cable in many markets most Americans would switch, but it doesn't.
Fiber Optic is already the backbone of the internet and it's what replaced Cable over a decade ago. SONET is the next big leap however it's expensive to deploy
fiber tv?? oh great. another income stream to get fleeced
They are now in PA. Everyone’s switching. All of rural is getting fiber
Yep Corporate GREED, no accountability of the funds paid out to them in grants and no real competition due to exclusive monopolies. As well as all the BS redtape in the last mile installation
@@mrmotofy not really. The funds in PA are being used now. 15 years with DSL and fiber is coming in a few months
Its indeed ridiculous how much it costs for internet connection here in the US. And the prices are criminal. Having grown up in a country served with fast fiber networks at low loow prices, I can agree with everyone who said the greedy corporations & too much politics is to blame
The distance from New York to Los Angeles is greater than the distance from New York to Ireland.
The US is an extremely large place and they will get there with fibre optics. In the meantime the US has no shortages of energy or food which many other places are going to have.
Well I'm glad I'm finally getting to get fiber installed in my neighborhood! We have a new fiber ISP come into town about a year ago and they're building out infrastructure across town. Just got a notice about a week ago that their crews will be working in our neighborhood installing services. We don't have a date yet, but I can't wait to get it installed! I'm getting rid of Comcast as soon as I can!
AT&T will be installing fiber internet at our house in a few days. I'm super excited!
Fiber Optic is already the backbone of the county's internet. In fact Fiber is what replaced Cable Internet over a decade ago.
The majority of americans don't know this because they are still stuck on DLS internet from the 70's.
My internet is still delivered via Coax, so no it didnt replace Docsis cable internet. While cable providers use Fiber to the node, its still an RF based service and its all Coax from the node to the house. Still suffers from limited bandwidth especially on the upload side.
How can it be the backbone if only 43 percent of consumers have it? I can speak first hand, it's not available where i live. Furthermore, i just moved about 5 miles and i can't even get access to cable internet!? Century Link DSL is the only thing available and it sucks...badly.
@@j.r.a.inthacut8148 By backbone he doesn't mean to the customers homes. The core of most if not all ISP's networks is Fiber. The backbone excludes the "Last mile" which is how the customer is connected. All major ISP's use Fiber across their network. In the case of Coax ISP's like Comcast the Fiber comes out to the neighborhood and converts to coax at the node. VDSL is normally Fiber to the node as well, unless you live next to the phone companies central office.
*Thank Narinder Singh Kapany for this brilliant innovation !*
Another gift of Indian Scientists to world.
Company interests never meant to match with public needs.
Infrastructure for a whole Country has to be state driven, otherwise it will always fail.
wrong. has to be federally driven. WHAT STATE!!!!???/
Fiber internet went from "I'm only available in dense cities" to "I'm in your walls". Spectrum had a tight hold in my area and charged us $60 a month for 100mbp/s
Frontier fiber showed up quickly during the pandemic and I'm now paying $45 for 500mbp/s. Had to upgrade my router to handle the new speeds.
Although this report is a year old, there have been some recent developments. Here in GA the state was awarded 1.3 billion of the 65 billion that Biden approved for broadband projects country wide. A bill was passed in GA last year allowing the EMCs (electric companies) to provide internet. In my neighborhood, one of the EMCs partnered with Conexon to have fiber installed to their customers. But where we live our EMC did not, so we weee left out. I contacted my elected officials and my rep at the EMC and Spectrum is now installing fiber to serve my area.
Yep. My town in northern California is getting fiber internet installed. Its a slow process, but I'm just glad we're getting a different company other than AT&T or Comcast. As soon as its available at my house, I'm dropping Comcast.
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In the US the key take away is the telecommunications contracts in place that limit competition and choice in most medium to low density areas. I'm a IT professional and work with datacenter fiber a lot and it's 100% the way to go. However, for homes, telecommunications companies are the issue in most cases. They aren't willing to build large fiber networks with low subscriber density. Starlink is way more important than the guy in the video is stating. More important is that Starlink v2 will be a massive improvement in both throughput and cost to orbit. Some of the costs that he mentioned are early numbers. Today all Starlink satellites are launched on reused boosters which greatly reduces costs. Starlink v2 will us starship, which is a fully reusable rocket so only the fuel costs are not recoverable. Starlink will ultimately be the largest single network in the future and likely eclipse fiber in every way.... Speed of deployment, flexibility and over all reach. It will allow highspeed data transfer between the Earth, Moon, and Mars.
You are right about Starlink -- more important that this "government subsidy promo" is willing to admit. Not sure that it will rival fiber throughput -- but it is significant.
Starlink will never ever beat fiber solutions when it comes to latency nor will it ever scale out to multigig speeds. Starlink is good for what it is. No need to bring it up in a conversation of Fiber.
@@awarepenguin3376 I use to work at GTE and United telephone. And then I worked for Cellular One in Orlando. I would never thought that back in 1986 those complicated cell phones would ever rival the simplicity and reliability of land lines...
We still rely on landlines, and we still need more of it. Cell and WiFi are relatively short extensions of what its landlines haul. The only places I know that have to hop towers with directed microwave radios are areas where there's a local problem with snipping and stealing the physical cables.
@@awarepenguin3376 not a single person in the US needs a multi gig network connection, let alone fiber to the home. there are far cheaper option to bring at least 100mb internet to rural areas. this obsession of fiber to the home is silly when most modern copper systems to the home can support well over gigabit connections. most of the back bone infrastructure is already fiber anyways.
I can't believe that I live in an average residential neighborhood that is mostly working class.....and I get Gigabit upload/download, unmetered for $69/month because of AT&T fiber. This would've be unheard a decade or so ago.
It's around 50$ here in Serbia, including cable TV and landline.
As someone who installs internet and telephone wires for a living I can tell you fiber is a little harder to install than copper. Fiber is heavier, its more fragile/occasionally breaks and you need expensive equipment to make the final connection/test the final connection. Connecting fiber is not as simple as plugging it into a socket you often have to melt two strands of fiber together or use special epoxies. You also must not look directly at a strand of fiber when its powered because even though you can't see the laser light coming out of the fiber it can still blind you. However fiber does have some major advantages a fiber cable can handle much more bandwidth, much less energy loss and its a much faster light speed connection. Single mode fiber can hold so much bandwidth that no device known to man can overload it. The copper wires we run need a signal boost after hundreds of feet but a fiber line can go many miles without a signal boost. Given all these advantages I'm suprised we haven't found a way to make fiber more affordable. I do get paid well to install fiber but that is because I'm a member of the IBEW (electrician union).
What speed connection do you get with original copper wire?
My friend in Denmark uses fiber optic internet. He has an extremely fast connection with zero latency. He claims to pay less than I do for 12 mbps broadband. The USA is way behind other countries when it comes to fast reliable internet.
I like how everyone knows corning as the company that makes the gorilla glass of iphones but they made it for Samsung first. Apple initially refused to use it and eventually gave in. Apples first 4 iPhones used regular glass. Plus Corning is a huge company and really old. They make glass for everything Including labs. They are a very old company.
Sounds like that corning’s a fuckn monopoly.
Not really. Just a company that does products and services very well
@@hectorcardenas2171 How so? Sure it controls 73% of the smartphone glass market but the overall glass market it controls only 45%. The other 55% is mostly 4 Asian brands and one Irish brand. It's the market leader not a monopoly. Like how Coke controls about 40% of the soda market. It's the market leader but not monopoly. Apple initially refused to only use the glass because they wanted something cheaper but once Samsung started running ads like , made with Corning gorilla glass and taking shares apple went to Corning and became it's second biggest customer. There is no bad blood between both brands. After that Samsung stopped running those ads since both used Corning.
Geez its embarassing seeing US lag behind so much in this important sector and its coming from a person who is in developing world, i got fiber like 6 years ago to my house free of cost from my internet provider now almost all the internet comes with fiber in India (at least in citys) rite now i am paying like 9$ for 100 Mbps unlimited plan
US is ranked very high speed indexes. The idea that the US is slow is not even close to being true.
Many of the countries that present their data tend to leave out rural areas where the US tends to cover them. Not every country does that but the vast majority do.
People cannot expect to live in the middle of texas and get the same speeds as New York City.
Mississippi has increased leaps and bounds in the last few years in fiber availability to rural areas. A recent law was removed preventing local utility providers from providing internet access. With the big companies such as ATT, Comcast and the like they never found it beneficial to them to provide access to rural areas. Now the local power companies are laying down hundreds of thousands of miles of fiber to underserved areas. Parents and me back in high school living with them was limited to satellite internet where we only got maybe 5Mbps, now they have symmetric gigabit fiber. Now if only we can pull down all those really unsightly bundles of phone line ATT has up that they never maintain and transition to phone over fiber.
Old copper wires, eh. Out in rural Canada. Thank Elon for Starlink. Not as fast as fiber but 8mbps to over 300mbps is dramatic improvement. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦😅😅😅
I have fiber optic service in San Carlos, Guaymas, Sonora, Mexico. I could not get it in the Ballard neighborhood in Seattle, Washington. Now in Shoreline, Washington - less than 2 miles north of Seattle, I still cannot get fiber optic internet - only ADSL, Cable, or Cellular. Fiber optic is less than 300 meters away, but the TelCo will not bring it.
It isn't just Europe and Asia that are ahead of the USA on fiber optic internet.
Es lo mismo en Mexico. Ahorita estoy de vacaciones en Acambaro, GTO y en la casa de mis abuelos, no tienen acceso a fibra optica. Mi tia tiene una conexion de 30 Mbps por Telmex.
I'm glad I have a few fiber optic ISPs for my city in the USA. I switched from cable to fiber in 2021.
Does anyone find it strange that the company that owns CNBC is comcast and comcast also owns americas largest internet provider known as xfinity
Or the fact they refuse to upgrade to Fiber to the home and still use Docsis cable internet.
ya the sicko demonic fallen angel serpent snake as free mason trump to deceive gave comcast all that money for its tax scam bill for frequency weapons demonic teslas technology( demonology) the sicko shore didnt deceive me and shore wont deceive me when the sicko comes back!!! )
In every other country it would be a state broadcaster doing it and that would just have the same issues because it would be political.
Discovered the internet but now lagging behind other countries in terms of infrastructure, speed, and cost of internet.
CORRUPTION+
The American way
@@squidwardo7074 Sweden is a technlogical embarasment compared to America
Software or Cell Phone or Smart phone or Latptop or Search engine - US has plenty of companies while Sweden doesn't even have one
Sweden should learn from USA and learn how to create technologies
Sweden is ajoke of the world.
The US is not lagging and people need to stop believing certain media hype around issues. Trust me when I tell you that very few Americans would actually like living in other countries when they realize the differences and how wealthy life is in America.
In Poland I have fiber Internet in my home (6$ per month) and also in my parents house (11$ per month). Works great. Maybe 20 years ago I had Internet through radio connection (terrible quality) and later through copper cable connection (works fine, but hamsters bite through copper cable few times a year and needs to be repaired).
You have wild hamsters at your home?
@@seanthe100 Not at home. Copper cable went underground, through fields and meadows, where the wild hamsters live.
@@adamwest7953
A lot of people will use these single case examples to say that they are better of than the US. The reality is that the median income in the US is $70,000 with one in three households being in excess of $100,000 per year.
A VW Golf GTI will cost about $29000 in the US and in Germany the same car starts at $40000.
This is the same through the whole of the US economy with things being far cheaper.
as a polish person I'm glad they open up factory here 🇵🇱
The problem is that the country's largest internet provider- Comcast- appears to be stuck on using 2000 era coaxial cable for all installations. My parents just moved to a new, high-end condo complex and all that is offered is Comcast Coaxial. Much of this metro area is only serviced by Coaxial copper by Comcast.
What metro area?
@@wendelllaidley3407 DC and all of SE Michigan
@@geoffwitt4227
When you talk about Coaxial you are really talking about the last mile and not the main infrastructure.
A place like washington DC is going to be hard to get fibre into the homes. Most of the data from other countries is very misleading because it gives the impression that every home has it it installed when in fact it is their infrastructure system that has it not the home connection.
A lot of these countries did not even have a well developed Coaxial system and rely on copper phone lines.
@@bighands69 Correct. But wouldn't several coaxial connections greatly slow the speed? I have a 100 foot coaxial from the box. Another one in the house walls. Another from the outlet to the room. Then another to the router. with my FIOS system, in my apartment I have fiber all the way to my router. It is cheaper and much faster. But the only offer this in about 25% of the metro area.
@@geoffwitt4227
Degradation of the signal can occur but it would not be that significant. The number of users on a cable would be of far more significance than the actual impedance of the connections.
A Coaxial can perform up to 500 Mbps and with future technology it could be higher.
The hurdles to municipal run fiber are such B.S. They’re usually the cheapest and fastest _and_ tend to be profitable.
Edit: Not to mention, with all the places I’ve moved to, a majority of the times I saw great competitive prices and customer service from Comcast was in areas that offered fiber as an alternative. It’s a real threat to their monopolistic hold (thanks to how coax is setup).
Our competitor has FTTH in areas we don't. We offer fair pricing, better services, better technicians and faster repair times. They don't impact us much. People that change ISPs for a dollar a month savings aren't worth keeping. IDK about in Comcast areas but we overbuild the cable plant with fiber anyway. Turn it on and slowly migrate the customers over. There back end platform is the same and if they pay for the same internet speeds they had on cable, they don't notice any difference anyway.
Sorry but it is very expensive to put the cable into the homes and overcome the last mile. Many homes are not the same and do not have easy access ports.
If you already have a cable connection that makes the issue of feeding to the home easier but it does not overcome the issue of the building not having good containment for new cables being added.
@@bighands69 Not sure what you are getting at. I never said anything was cheap because it isn't. People that want fiber for the sake of wanting fiber think that it is cheap as they would like it to be with their imagination. Almost every home has coax, but if they need fiber, they run it to the house and coil it up outside.
The tech comes and attaches a fiber to the side of the house and drills into a central location and everything else is wireless, the TV boxes, the phone, everything. This way you don't need fiber to every room. I get speeds from 350 to 500 on wifi everywhere in my house and 200mbs in the back yard.
Back in the day, we ran fiber to the house and then convert it to phone, data, and cable on the outside of the house and connect to the existing wiring. That was 2900 per house in 1999. Now, drill a hole and install a plug for the fiber and then plug in the wifi gateway and you are done.
In my area, once the people using old equipment are upgraded to a single gateway the signal will be changed to get 1.5gig down and 500mb up for starters and then it will increase to symmetrical 1.5gig. all over cable. On pure fiber you can get 8gig/8gig but that speed is to show they are the fastest, not that anybody NEEDS it.
@@Todd.T
Everything hinges on the area and how expensive it would be. If a dwelling has good cable containment then new fibre cables can be feed in but if the containment is already full up with cables there will be no new cables installed.
Many properties may have sealed cable installations making it impossible. The issue with this is the varying degrees of complexity with installation.
computer networking is super fascinating 🙂 i love studying it and trying to wrap my mind around how the internet really works
I have fiber to the house, on the outskirts of a decent sized midwest city. For 1000Gb Down I pay $95. Not really much considering, the Internet houses most of what we used to do with a TV/Cable. I've completely cut cable for that reason. I can get 2000Gb Down for only $20-30 more. However, EVERYBODY in America should have access to Fiber - the reason it's not the case is because these telecom giants overcharged our grandparents (AT&T I'm looking at you) to our parents (Verizon I see you) to now us (F.U. Comcast) and have never came up with a strategy to reinvest technology or resources into certain areas. Its all about the dollar!!
1000Gb doesn't sound right, Gb as in Gigabit? Sure you don't mean 1000Mbit?
83% of New Zealanders have it :) Dad was one of the first software engineers fast tracking it in the 2000s, pioneer!
I worked as waiter where Donaled Keck resideded. I had the pleasure to wait on his family many times, and he was always a great guest! I later found out he was one of the people who came up with this technology! He has a presidential metal!
I'm also anxious about fiber optic (color) processing units for computing... which should do at least 256x256x256-1 faster than binary, but... at a consistent speed because of no overheating... whereas the crossing of those colors is how it will do all the calculations instantly and a major bonus on top of that... we get our batteries able to last maybe many times longer.
While the connections between the nodes of a computer may get really fast results from transferring data the actual circuits are still not going to be fibre based. Even Fiber optic networks still have to use traditional switching networks.
@@bighands69 That I fully understood since the first time fiber optics got introduced as a network service. But then again... we now even have slow-mo fitted inside of those very tiny GoPros at 240fps whereas 60fps is the gold standard. Keypoint is... there will be many times far fewer traditional switches in being replaced by non-friction optical blending that if it were to a 100x100 grid... then maybe 10 sensors outside of those are the traditional switches.
I live in a pretty big city metro area (pop 4M) and fiber only covers about 57% of residents with only 23% at 1GB or better. 5 years ago when I tried to get fiber I was told it would be 2-3 years for them to reach my area of the city. I am still waiting and the overall city coverage is only 10% higher than it was 5 years ago. Even with a Comcast near-monopoly in most of the area (if you want >=1GB service), companies aren't willing to make the investment to lay fiber - again, big city = expensive construction costs. Now this video is telling me it could be 10-20 years??? I would easily switch to fiber if it was available at about the same cost... however, Comcast/Xfinity cable rarely has problems for me and I get ~1GB performance... it would just be nice to have better tech and options.
Well, Comcast loves ripping off people and charging big bucks for their aging copper network, they of course have no incentive to deploy fiber, they have a monopoly which is not examined or challenged by the government. Biden obviously does not understand this and thinks they they need to pay a few billion bucks to these monopolies to get an improvement.
@@nigratruo I agree with that mostly, but I don’t want Comcast to lay fiber, I want competition. It will likely take the government intervention, but hard to lay blame on the current President when we have had a few others before that didn’t do anything either. Plus, you know Republicans won’t pass anything if they can block it.
Im suprised Im from Mexico and almost every single Mexican city has optic fiber coverage through out the whole city and the prices are good the most expensive option I found was of $27 a month and the second most expensive 14 a month with 1gb or better
@@vaderwashere365 Well, the politicians of course get br****, I mean lobbied, i.e. paid to look the other way and do nothing against a monopoly like Comcast. That is why monopolies are so bad: They eventually have so much money that they can pay to block all competition. I don't know what happened to trust busting and anti kartel legislation, it hasn't done anything in many decades, leaving real monopolies alone and to fester and harm the whole market, while the go after Apple, Google and Facebook for their alleged monopolies. A real monopoly is if you have no choice, you can only buy from one source, if you want or not.
@@moctezumaaleg2008
The US gets life better in every other aspect. The US is number 7 on the global indexes of internet speed.
The US is extremely large with a very dispersed population so it tends to mean that there will be areas that do not do as well in some areas of economics.
u.s broadband is a joke
Because the ISPs are a bunch of thieves.
@EMAN67:RP forum UK,Germany, Spain etc have even less internet speeds than USA
Go check the statistics
@EMAN67:RP forum
US has had cable since the late 1940s.
I installed at least 2 miles of fiber cabling in Schools & Hospitals. It is truly a magical technology
An excellent story. As a simple "end user" our household story is, we just switched to a fiber based internet service via a company called Sparklight (in Longview, TX). In addition, and this is CRUCIAL, we upgraded our wifi to a mess network. Now, our internet speeds are amazing! Information pops up immediately on websites. 4K videos play with no interruptions via web based TV services like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+ and others. It's night and day compared to our former coax based cable company service. Ironically, the last, short connection between our fiber modem and the computer in our home office, is a copper CAT-6 cable!?! Yet, even that connection is MUCH faster due to the initial fiber service. As more and more Americans do get connected in what they call "the last mile." by fiber, I believe it will be a tsunami effect of consumers hooking up where available.
Mesh networks are great, I’d also say getting WiFi 6 router/s if you have mostly modern devices is a great call with fiber. Even with 1 WiFi 6 router in a ~4,000 sq foot house my desktop gets 500-600 megabytes per second up and down, no Ethernet
Cat 6 supports 10 GBPS @ 250 mHz…. So luckily, it’s highly unlikely you have the bandwidth to maximize its throughput speeds
it's weid to read this, fiber is pretty much a standard technology nowadays 🙈
Some people though still don’t have it.
It ain’t standard in the US
Standard where?
At this point I start to look at the social impact of all this. Connectivity has seemly done more harm than good for people. We’re connected more than ever and society seems to be moving backwards then forward. Im starting to think this is all a mistake.
A lot of people share your mindset. On the surface, I would agree. Thanks for sharing. Another way of looking at it, though, is that hyper-connectivity is just underscoring problems that have always been there. It's also causing things to seem worse than they are. Steven Pinker shows data on this subject, and it's really interesting: ruclips.net/video/yCm9Ng0bbEQ/видео.html
@@mhc4124 im a technologist, hell my pfp is the ethereum logo. I’m just sorta waking up the reality of it all. Humanity is better, yes, but not at the rate we should be. Its looking like were already about to screw it up
OK, boomer.
ISPs are more interested in data caps than providing better service. That's why it makes sense to have Elon put thousands of satellites in low earth orbit than regulate the monopolies.
The local telco hung a coil of fiber beside the house about 5 years ago. But since we get phone and internet through our cable provider the fiber isn't connected. The telco is just about done fiber rollout for all the major cities in the province and have been moving onto smaller and smaller towns many with populations under 2000.
Yet, most of America are still capped at 30-50mbps. If you have multiple devices connected, you're looking at 5mbps. America is decades behind on every infrastructure you can think of.