THANK YOU. This proves that Melissa was IN CHARGE of private lessons and Christi had a RIGHT to be upset. This was going on for years! Maddie was improving quickly and Chloe didn’t get that opportunity…and she could STILL win. Christi was fed up in this episode and her explosion makes sense. How sad that Abby only gave Chloe 20 minutes, and the kid still got fourth! She truly didn’t care about anyone, but Maddie and this is proof. These production notes are gold. The whole purpose of the show is to make Chloe look bad against Maddi3 and all of the dancers look bad. This is disgusting.
It was also very interesting to hear Christi and Kelly talk about this episode on their podcast and give their perspective. It’s so sad how their kids were sabotaged and it explains more of why they acted the way they did later in the season and in later seasons too But I’m really happy Christi has owned up for the behavior that she’s regretted and has grown, but it’s still so sad what’s happened
True true. Plus, the producers also made them look like bitches a lot of the time, too. But it is nice that Christi is remorseful and holding herself accountable for what she did (like the fat jokes)!
@@berrisfueller6221 yeah it was very understandable why she was upset and frustrated. I always liked her for being real and standing up for everyone, and that’s including Maddie since she called Abby out for trying to turn Maddie against her friends by saying no one would be happy for her, but I like her even more now knowing that she knows she had faults during her time on the show.
@@bluesmiles5 Same I always loved Christi for how honest and real she was. She didn’t try to be perfect, and she called it as she saw it. She didn’t sugar coat anything no matter who it upset. But she’s also real enough to know when she went too far and apologized. Which is much more than I can say for Melissa or Abby who were fake asf and pretended everything okay while doing sneaky stuff, acting like Christi was just crazy and there was no favoritism when they made it obvious. They also never owned up to anything they did.
@@corimoon3360 I’m not sure if Melissa still talks about the issues that involved her daughters, Chloe and Christi but to this day, Abby still acts like “she didn’t do anything wrong” while her emotional abuse caused the girls trauma and also caused them to isolate themselves from Abby to move on into a better life. She still acts like the “victim”.
@@kimberleyharris8300 No I was referring to how Jojo and Abby both bash the girls about there trauma. But yeah that’s not suprising, that they do love money.
Abby really asking a 13 year old if she was making out with boys?? reminds me of when she insinuated that Chloe was sneaking off with boys and Chloe was like 10 or 11.
As a black (former) dancer, while we have come so far from where we once were, i can say it is still very very very hard. In more ways than expected you think too. I have a lot of respect for Nia sharing her story.
As someone who danced and performed in college Nia was completely correct. I have photos of me with white legs because there are no tights my color. Or the many times I got yelled at for not doing my make up right because the garnet red color never showed up bright enough.... WELL IM BLACK... not particularly light skinned either. When I suggested using red on my eyes to mimic the same look they told me if I wasn't uniform I couldn't perform. So either way I was sat out. The one I wanted to use not approved and the one required for use not matching on my skin for obvious reasons. It's honestly the most frustrating type of experience because there's nothing you can do other than take years of your life changing your skin and that's a mental health issue of self hate at that point... which is worse.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience and I am so sorry that you experienced all of that stuff on your dance journey. No one should ever be treated or excluded in that way.
Interesting that the part where Melissa turns to Christ in the audience and is happy about being undefeated it’s for Maddie and Chloe’s duet and not Maddie for her solo. They definitely made it look like Melissa was rubbing it in in the show.
I really feel like this is the week that killed Paige's confidence and it was COMPLETELY avoidable! It's just heartbreaking. It's one of those moments where I'm wondering where a dance teacher is to tell her, "hey, this SUCKS! But, you know what? Sometimes stuff like this happens. Do NOT worry about your new music, YOU KNOW THIS DANCE! I want you to go out there with Lady Gaga BLASTING in your head, nail this routine like you always have, and then never ever worry about this again. You are a kid, this isn't your fault and you're going to do amazing regardless of the grownups' mistakes!"... Because that's what I did every time my students were scared about a performance and they'd always go out and hit extra hard because they KNEW someone had their back. You can breed winners with kindness, you can breed success while hyping kids up, you can hold kids accountable for their performances without giving them lifelong trauma!
I’m glad there are teachers out there who treat young kids how they deserved to be treated. We should treat adults in the dance community with love and kindness as well. I was always upset with the defense “it’ll get harder when they’re older” because if that is true thats also unwarranted negativity for older dancers.
So nice to finally have context for Melissa turning to Christi and saying "Undefeated! Aren't you happy?" Even though Melissa is undoubtedly very proud of and thinks very highly of Maddie, for her to blatantly rub her win in someone else's face seemed very out of character for her and never sat right with me.
you can totally understand why Christi got so mad that weekend. not only were they competing at the comp, they were competing for the cover, and Maddie had 2 perfected old solos, yet Chloe was the only one doing a new one, and rhe other girls never rehearsed with their new music. that's not a fair competition whatsoever. I can't believe Melissa & Abby gaslighted Christi and the public into thinking Christi was just mad Chloe didn't win. u can't be happy another child has won when your child & other children were set up to fail and another guaranteed to win, even if Maddie messed up 1 solo she still had her other solo!
Abby and Melissa didn’t gaslight Christi. Christi was implying that Chloe was “better” than Maddie which was unnecessary. If she was more mature and professional then she would have discussed with both of them outside so I don’t blame Melissa or Abby for what they did. I would flip out if someone implied that their kid was better than mine and would call them “crazy and insane”. People can get mad at me but we know that it’s true
@@marvincorre4783 Christi literally said let’s take it outside yet neither sneaky and conniving Abby or Melissa would. Christi says she regrets hurting Maddie because it wasn’t about Maddie but the lying and favoritism. Melissa and Abby knew if they took it outside then they’d be called out for their devious actions. That’s why Dr. Holly said it needed to be done. So much stuff is getting exposed about Melissa and Abby’s deceitful ways. If anyone actually paid attention they caught it from the beginning. I understand Christi was furious that her daughter was made to seem less than. Abby and Melissa should be ashamed at their actions to sky rocket one while disrespecting the others. Both continue to lie although Abby has admitted to giving Maddie the blatant favoritism at the expense of everyone else.
@@prettypatrece It doesnt mean that Christi can insinuate that Chloe is “better” than Maddie. Its quite obvious that youre one of those people that doesnt like it when others hold Christi accountable and call her out of her actions. Start holding Christi accountable and stop defending her words because she directly attacked a child.
@@marvincorre4783 You’re actually one of those people. Multiple times Melissa said Maddie was better than the other girls. 🥴 Christi can saw the same. If you wouldn’t be mad that your daughter didn’t get a fair shot than you’re absolutely crazy. The funny thing is Christi has apologized for her actions whereas Melissa still deflects and denies any wrongdoings.
It’s interesting to hear Melissa talking about leaving. Especially when Christi mentioned she and Chloe were planning on leaving before the show started then Chloe ended up winning a title and couldn’t leave anymore, which is when they got cast for dance moms
that part where maddy took the trophy from nias hands, i’ve noticed watching past episodes she does that quite a lot. it’s mostly just the old episodes but like she did have a habit of taking trophies and things out of peoples hands
It boils down to the idea that she was labeled as the “leader of the group” by Abby, even though she was the youngest. She felt responsible for her group and blamed herself for their losses (like she did in Electricity) and congratulated herself for their victories (which is why she liked holding the trophies).
I was thinking the same thing. Maddie seems to have gotten a lot nicer as she's gotten older but when she was younger, she definitely needed to always be the winner/the best no matter what
I find it shocking that Melissa wanted to leave so early! I have long held that Melissa is the most different on the show than in real life and that her character is the most difficult one to parse. I loved this video! Do you have any other dance shows you love, be it reality or scripted?
I think Melissa was in a bad place, her marriage ended and the Abby took advantage of it. She groomed Maddie at a vulnerability time, when her parents divorced.
@@justkaren6450 yes, I still rewatch that show too 😂 Coach D is the perfect example of tough love vs abusive, she screams too but like she screaming at her own kids. Abby now she was just mentally and emotionally abusive.
Abby was so money hungry. A fee for getting a solo.... for who? The choreographer who works at the studio? Her studio was failing b4 the show but geez.
this is normal for studios! it’s the choreographers time and work. they get paid to teach dance. that includes solos. i thought this was common knowledge. even though it’s abby, she still had to give her time which means $$$
@@lexibeaumont9589 why would dance specific knowledge be common knowledge? I hate it when people say that. Especially about something the average person might not know bc it’s specific for a certain topic. Everyone doesn’t know everything. THAT should be common knowledge.
@@corimoon3360 I mean it should be common knowledge that someone wouldn't get an extra service at a business for free. It is not even dance knowledge lol
@@user-ml9bu9tp2j it's not extra service. they're part of the competition team which is likely extra for tuition so why would dances for the comp be extra. The choreographer should get commissioned but not from parents' pocket.
@@olivedabove I agree that as far of the show goes production should have paid for THESE kids solos but where does that leave every other kid in abby's studio? These 6 girls arent the only ones that compete. How else would the choreographer be paid for their time?
I dont think that Melissa was talking about removing the girls from the aldc but from her no longer working there. I believe by this time she had her boyfriend pay for dance and she was going through a divorce.
see that's the difference between corrections and critiques and abuse. a dance teacher correcting will say 'your arms are sloppy, please fix them' or show/ tell them specifically how to change them. an abusive one adds on crap like do you want to look like maddie or Nia or calls them space cadet
Wow…those notes certainly put a different perspective on that episode and how the editing twists the narrative. Interesting how the mums were ready to leave Abby after the show was finished after the 6 episodes.
5:40 I can completely understand a mother changing their minds about tattoos when their kids grow up, at that age they’re so innocent but as you see them mature I can imagine you start to see them as adults and not the innocent children they once were
Melissa might not have known, but she made things worst by defending Abby. If she stood up to Abby with the other moms things would have been different
it made it easier for her kids though. Abby took out her anger towards the moms on the kids and Melissa knew that. At the end of the day, Maddie and Mckenzie were treated better because Melissa never stood up to Abby. The times she did (like in s6 where she tried to get kenzie a hip-hop solo), Abby just threatened to pull the solo completely
@@aditi8403 I disagree, Maddie and McKenzie were also treated badly in a different way. Maddie became to obsessed with winning that she found it hard to be happy for other people and Kenzie lost her confidence.
Quite interesting that all the moms wanted to leave the aldc even before most of them did it. You can see that they were alredy done with the treat of the kids and I guess in general with Abby. Also, I found really sad that sometimes the producers didnt show the tender moments between the kids. I suppose because they wanted to creat drama with them.
Another amazing episode to shade light on a person who was represented so poorly. I’ve always had respect for Christi and her willingness to stand up and not be silent. But unfortunately that left opportunity for production(and Abby) to manipulate the scene. Christi deserves more credit especially since she’s acknowledged her wrongs publicly unlike another person.
can i tell you my jaw dropped when you talked about Melissa getting that tattoo removed omg scandalous!! why didn't they show that on the show c'monn nowww
Cause it would mess with they’re portrayal of her. Melissa was supposed to be the nice, relatable mom with a talented daughter that everyone was jealous of. Anything halfway scandalous would’ve messed with that image. That’s not her fault-it’s a production issue.
I agree with you 100%!!! There was no need to tear other kids down to lift Maddie up!! Maddie not only knew both her solos, but had won with both!! This was a definite setup for Chloe and Paige this week!! Abby was so disgusting to Paige and Brooke!! And Abby had no business speaking on the fiancés of the moms. She should worry about paying her own bills I feel so much for holly and Nia!!! Nia was already facing challenges without Abby piling on!! Chloe was the sweetest!! Such an underrated dancer (by Abby). I can’t blame the moms for drinking!! I’d probably stay drunk with all the sabotage, setups, and bullshit It seems to me that Abby was so jealous of her dancers!! Especially Chloe and Paige. She must have wanted to be Barbie as a kid and never got over it It’s gross Melissa wasn’t upset about anything that happened that week except the unfairness/inequities getting called out!! She was responsible for getting Paige her music. That one was all on her!!
That's actually false all mellisa actually had to do was download it onto a cd she couldn't do that without it being sent to her first. This one is on production because they probs delayed the process. But of course why should I argue with delusional people
@@Amber.28. you saying “production probs”… we all saw what happened. It DOES NOT take DAYS to burn a CD. Delusional people should scroll on instead of coming onto other peoples comments with that “probs” crap
It makes me sad to hear the girls and parents say they wanted to leave so early on. Like Maddie not knowing how many more years of this she has to go and wishing to leave the next year 😞
Could you do an analysis of the episode where kelly left? I'd love to see how it really played out behind the scenes...because it all seems like the children were manipulated from the beginning.
Hey Mack, love your videos btw. It gives great insight into what truly happened and helped to connect certain things that were said. I was wondering, hopefully you read this, if you were able to review s3 e5 because that episode Abby said a lot of things to Maddie and Melissa that weren’t shown. I think it’ll help people who say Maddie is ungrateful understand she was just as well under the same treatment.
@@yanaji7508 Abby was really upset about the moms walking out in the beginning of s3 e1 so then she decided to “degrade Maddie to duet partners with Kendall”, the next day they found out they didn’t win so she was extra upset because of that. Abby preceded to talk to Maddie about the walkout and how she should’ve stopped Melissa basically making it maddies fault by manipulating gaslighting and crying in front Maddie in order to make her cry, which she did. Later in the episode Chloe’s solo is completed Abby then tells Kelly that Chloe’s future can’t be at the expense of Brooke and Paige, which was the “reason” for the walkout. Then tells Melissa she should know what that feels like to which Melissa says everyone make mistakes and then precedes to tell her she’s more worried about the moms then her kids and then alluded to her being the same way with men over her kids in front of both Maddie and Kenzie. This makes Maddie cry and Abby blames her crying for Melissa not caring enough. You can tell there were other things that were said but it wasn’t shown. Maddie has full blown breakdown that we only see 1 minute of.
I really believe that the producers set it up so Maddie would do better than the other girls. She had two solos, she was more prepared for both. And then there’s Paige’s music. It was set up to provide drama. And it clearly worked because of how Christi blew up.
I really don’t know what to believe when Melissa says that the girls were talking behind Maddie’s back..like they all seemed like really good friends and sweet to each other regardless of the favoritism.
@@uniquelyvicky6391 I agree, although you gotta remember the producers love to edit the episodes a lot so they could make a certain person look like they’re mad or jealous of Maddie’s win, but at the same time I see your point and I think you are also right.
You do know there are other reasons besides winning why people might talk about someone else behind their back? Maybe they didn't like how Maddie acted or something. We don't know. And again, Melissa only knows what Maddie told her. None of us were there, so we have no verification if they in fact gossip behind Maddie's back.
@@Mia_M Yeah I guess, but when Melissa was saying they were talking abt her behind her back I have a feeling she was referring to the favoritism. Not really because she kept on winning, but Abby would ALWAYS make sure she won.
@@sidneyj8567 again, you're making an inference. We'll never know the truth of everything that went on because we weren't there, and the dynamics of the show were a lot more complicated than we were led to believe based on editing.
okay can someone explain to me how they signed a contract for 6 weeks thinking it would be a documentary type thing, then suddenly it was actually 6 years / seasons? I don't understand that
mackzboss has mentioned it in a few other videos, if i remember correctly I think they signed on for a six week documentary but when the producers realised it could become a longer show and be profitable they basically shoved contracts at the dance moms and gave them very little time to read them over and maybe kind of pressured them into signing what was a six season contract
the producers lied about the contracts and then didnt give the moms enough time to read through it so they just ended signing thinking it was a 6 week docu series, which honestly was a bad mistake on the moms part (very important to always read contracts) but its clear the intention was to deceive them into signing.
I think Abby was struggling when the show came along. She knew it could be a big break but was frustrated when producers chose dysfunctional moms over competent dancers. Don’t get me wrong; the girls are great for their ages. But Abby wanted her most talented teen dancers to be showcased. The producers chose moms who really disliked Abby and had history with her. So she took out her frustrations on the kids. She decided Maddie was the star and the others were filler, and she wasn’t shy about it. The kids took the brunt of the abuse, but the producers got the drama they wanted to create a good show. These early episodes really show what life at ALDC was really like before the TV show. Kelly’s kids were ignored because of personal drama, especially after Brooke began losing interest. Abby tried to sabotage Chloe because Christi was so vocal about her dislike of Abby. Nia was ignored and type casted. Maddie was the golden child and Melissa was a snake who buddies up to Abby to get the best for her daughter. Even Kenzie was mistreated because she was constantly compared to her sister (just like Paige and Brooke) and was expected to keep up with kids 2-4 years older than her. It was so unfair to the kids.
Abby and the producers were both just awful. Abby seems to think that it’s unreasonable that none of the girls and moms really keep in touch. That, or at least give her recognition and attention maybe. A lot of people defend Abby, and they think that people like Minister Dawn was a villain. But after finding out from her and channels like this one and Christi’s podcasts…so not the case!
I don’t think it’s fair to call the mums dysfunctional and the girls not competent dancers. They all tried their best with the terrible situation they was in week after week. Edit: When you think about it the show at beginning was not intended to be a drama filled show. It was supposed to be mini documentary series about the dance world and theses cute little girls who were good dancers and their mums. After the producers saw Abi’s teaching methods and how bad the mum’s relationship were with Abi and each other and how competitive it was. Then the show turned into what it is now. No one went with the intention to create drama it just happened.
And yet, they all put up with it because they were fame hungry and knew their much more talented than them but still mediocre daughters would be nothing without the show. 🤷♂️
I'm rather enjoying working between Back to the Barre and DMunedited on these episodes. Producers were absolute villains with all this - and the other thing that Christi mentioned is she tried to take that fight outside several times and neither Abby nor Melissa would allow it. It's a mess and the producers caused and enabled so much trauma.
Even in the episode Christy, not sure I'm spelling her name right sorry, even said we need to go out in the hallway. She even said that more than once. And Abby wouldn't allow it she wasn't for it she kept saying no. I remember that I watched the whole episode.
Can you do a video on why Nia was often excluded during the show, for example in Australia ( because Abby mentioned in one of her videos that Melissa was the reason Nia was often excluded)
Thats was a wild statement for Abby to make and I believe her based on the way Melissa treated Holly and Nia that entire season. Nia was starting to get big opportunities, not mediocre ones and Melissa only wants her kids to recieve those benefits.
Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to make these videos for us. I appreciate it so much and it means the world to me. I’m learning so much! Just wanted to let you know your hard work is not going unnoticed.
YAAAAAAAAY! I..... *_ACTUALLY_* .... recieved the new video posted notification!!! Only 1.5 hours later than the actual posted time. But it is obviously better then the complete lack of notification I've grown used to lol. Regardless... Once. Again. Great. Video. Edit - ironically/interestingly/whatever-ly (lol). I JUST NOW saw that I missed an entire video that was posted *two weeks ago!*
Vivi being a Tapper now makes me wish she could've gotten to do a solo in Season 7 where it was Tap it makes me sad her only shining solo moments on the show are the Bee Dance and The Cowgirl solo from Season 1.
While Christi handled her frustration wrong her heart was in the right place. Maddie had an unfair advantage having 2 solos she already knew while Chloe had a brand new solo and while the other girls had to adapt to new songs and while Paige only got her music 8 hours before she danced. If Maddie was gonna do 2 solos why couldn't the girls get 2 solos as well or at least solos they already knew with the original songs and production could just dub different music over it on the show like they did with a lot of the routines in Season 7.5.
@@uniquelyvicky6391 You’re the one on a video about the show….. Christi’s kid was set up to fail she was right to call out the blatant sabotage and favoritism
@@uniquelyvicky6391 What Obsession?! Chloe was abused and sabotaged because of Abby’s favoritism towards The Zieglers and Christi has every right to point it out. There is no obsession it’s stating facts. It’s always the Maddie Stans who gaslight Christi and Chloe.
Anyone else think that food at Christie’s house look good? Now I want a salad, a croissant sandwich and a cupcake…but my plain turkey and yogurt will do!
Hey Just noticed this but in the epsiode where Abby wants to hear abt the story about Melissa’s engagement you can see Maddie is where I don’t know a mic pack? maybe look into that
I will say, yes it’s unfair that Maddie got to preform two solos that she already knew, especially since Chloe had to learn hers that week. But oftentimes at a dance competition, tap dances don’t place in the overall. It’s very very very difficult to win anything with a tap solo, not impossible but extremely difficult. You can have a judges panel where none of the judges have tapped before and it can be hard to score a tap number if you don’t know tap technique well. Definitely not saying it’s fair that Maddie got two solos but it’s very unlikely she would have placed with tap anyway so I’m not surprised Abby gave her two solos. I don’t think it’s fair that she got to perform Cry against Chloe though. It would have been more fair if she had to learn a new solo and did her tap solo or if Chloe got to perform an old solo.
That's even worse, if you ask me. First, they had more than enough dances to perform to that competition, why give Maddie to worry about two dances. Second, why give Maddie two solos, when one of them is clearly a winning number, and the other might not even place? She's just taking rehearsal time from the other girls with this one.
@@miakirilova7255 it sounds like tap was a passion for Maddie, at least from what I have heard her say in videos and in interviews. So it's possible that number felt more like a fun dance than something to worry about. It could be that she is taking rehearsal time from the other girls, but it also wouldn't take as much rehearsal time because Maddie already knew her dances so she could run them without a coach's help. I guess what I was trying to say is that as a dancer who competed for several years, oftentimes there are more reasons to compete a number than what the show led on. It's also important to keep in mind that each dance competition is different and scores dances differently. It's possible Maddie's tap number was entered into the competition in a way where it wouldn't be scored against all the other numbers so she wouldn't have even qualified for an overall. And it's possible that her solos were entered in different categories than Chloe's were. The show makes it seem like dance competitions are scored in an easy and upfront way. In my many years of competing, every competition is very different and I have been to some of the competitions they went to on the show and based on my own personal experience, the produces make it seem a lot different than how it is in reality. They don't show 75% of the competition and how it's scored.
I lose a lot of respect for Cathy in this episode. Any other mom, when their kid is done dancing, good or bad, they’re ready to greet them with a huge hug and words of comfort. However, Vivi gets off stage and gets a half-ass hug and is told, “You were about 8 counts ahead of the music. Mommy’s not pleased with what you did honey”…….who says that to their child? And then wonders why they aren’t enthusiastic about dancing?!? That’s just sad.
I used to do competition dance, and there was only one Asian girl and one African American girl on the team. I overheard our assistant studio director say "if I had it MY way, the competition team would be all white girls!"
Maddie taking an award out of Nia’s hands is so rude. I know they were kids but it’s still rude especially because Nia was already ostracized from the group.
To be fair, she was the youngest on the show besides Kenzie. She had just turned 8 while the others were about 2 years older. She was labeled as the “leader of the team” by Abby, so she felt accountable for the team, and that incudes taking the fall for a group dance not doing well (like she did in Electricity) and holding trophies (like she did here.)
Especially since we know Nia wouldn’t have snatched it back or made a fuss. Maddie has done that other times as well. I remember when she did it to Kendall.
@@prettypatrece It doesn’t matter who grabs the trophy first. Because Abby constantly put the “leader” pressure on Maddie, Maddie felt responsible for the team. Maddie liked to hold the trophies to emphasize herded being the leader of the team, since that was the label Abby gave to her and expected her to uphold.
@@fantasyaldc8802 that makes zero sense. Others have grabbed trophies before with zero problems. Maddie shouldn’t have grabbed the trophy from Nia. Maddie wasn’t the leader. Funny how Abby even said on numerous episodes how Brooke was the oldest and should be the leader. Just because she placed Maddie front and center the majority of the time doesn’t give her the right to snatch anything. How would you feel if that happened to your child. 🥴
I realize she was a kid, but Melissa allowed Maddie to be such a huge brat. Grabbing a trophy out of another kids hand?! I would NEVER let my daughter behave that way. That girl could not take not being the constant center of attention
It wasn’t about being “center of attention.” Maddie revealed in an earlier interview that she was an introvert and didn’t like being the center of attention, and she was bullied in school. It was the idea that Abby labeled her as the “leader of the group.” Maddie felt responsible for their losses and successes. When the group lost Electricity, Maddie put all the blame on herself for her timing issues, even though there were bigger issues than that. With the same logic, whenever the team got a trophy, she was happy holding them.
i dont know if you did this already, but if you didn't, could you do a video on the production notes on the episode that got deleted with the christi kelly huge fight and when brooke was on the senior team? they removed it from lifetime and i never got to see it
Hey Mackzboss if you see this (which you probably won’t lol)but anyway I kinda noticed something weird during a dance that I don’t think you’ve talked about (or maybe it’s just me seeing it wrong)during Nia and Kendall’s duet ‘dig it’ there was a guy in the audience or at the judges table that had a creepy and menacing grin while watching it from 0:28-0:29 in the original full dance posted by lifetime or maybe I’m just over reacting and there was nothing wrong with his expression but it kinda disturbed me
I was watching Todrick Hall’s ALDCLA advert (Ease on Down the Boulevard in the competition) and some comments were suggesting that Jojo’s part was originally intended for Mackenzie. Does anyone have thoughts/evidence as I’m curious?
It sucks the other girls were set up to lose all the time!!! They deserved better!! Why was Maddie taking the rehearsal time if she already knew both of her dances?? It’s so sad how those girls were set up to fail!! Maddie was still competing Cry into Season 2. It sounds like Christi was on the money about sabatoge… Paige not getting new music until the day of the competition sounds about right for Abby and Melissa
@@uniquelyvicky6391 Vicky is it I recognize your username. Why are you in the comment section calling everybody obsessed with the Ziegler’s? Just because they don’t agree with what Melissa and Abby were doing and they’re underhanded ways. it seems like you’re the one who’s obsessed with them.
“cathy says she will plead poverty” bye why is cathy even funnier in the notes💀💀
If Cathy had a comedy show I'd watch the shot out of it
@@bellapaton7512girl, who wouldn’t?
chloe calling to congratulate holly was so sweet. chloe was one of if not the sweetest girl on the show
Nia was also super sweet. And Paige.
Honestly they all were.
@@dancingdani25 id beg to differ. maddie was a bitch to the other girls
@@dancingdani25 if you’ve watched dance moms then yk they’re not all sweet
@@lexaaasolorioioioio I've watched it and they are all sweet. The mum's and Abby are the problem.
@@dancingdani25 you clearly haven’t then because some of them were complete mean girls. Alot of the team mates talked about it outside the show too
crazy that basically all the moms either had plans to or were considering leaving abby’s studio the following year😭😭little did they know…
They rlly thought ☠
THANK YOU. This proves that Melissa was IN CHARGE of private lessons and Christi had a RIGHT to be upset. This was going on for years! Maddie was improving quickly and Chloe didn’t get that opportunity…and she could STILL win. Christi was fed up in this episode and her explosion makes sense.
How sad that Abby only gave Chloe 20 minutes, and the kid still got fourth! She truly didn’t care about anyone, but Maddie and this is proof. These production notes are gold.
The whole purpose of the show is to make Chloe look bad against Maddi3 and all of the dancers look bad. This is disgusting.
It was also very interesting to hear Christi and Kelly talk about this episode on their podcast and give their perspective. It’s so sad how their kids were sabotaged and it explains more of why they acted the way they did later in the season and in later seasons too
But I’m really happy Christi has owned up for the behavior that she’s regretted and has grown, but it’s still so sad what’s happened
True true. Plus, the producers also made them look like bitches a lot of the time, too. But it is nice that Christi is remorseful and holding herself accountable for what she did (like the fat jokes)!
@@berrisfueller6221 yeah it was very understandable why she was upset and frustrated. I always liked her for being real and standing up for everyone, and that’s including Maddie since she called Abby out for trying to turn Maddie against her friends by saying no one would be happy for her, but I like her even more now knowing that she knows she had faults during her time on the show.
@@bluesmiles5 Same I always loved Christi for how honest and real she was. She didn’t try to be perfect, and she called it as she saw it. She didn’t sugar coat anything no matter who it upset. But she’s also real enough to know when she went too far and apologized. Which is much more than I can say for Melissa or Abby who were fake asf and pretended everything okay while doing sneaky stuff, acting like Christi was just crazy and there was no favoritism when they made it obvious. They also never owned up to anything they did.
@@corimoon3360 the obsession with Melissa and her kids, especially Maddie. Like move on already 🙄
@@corimoon3360 I’m not sure if Melissa still talks about the issues that involved her daughters, Chloe and Christi but to this day, Abby still acts like “she didn’t do anything wrong” while her emotional abuse caused the girls trauma and also caused them to isolate themselves from Abby to move on into a better life. She still acts like the “victim”.
That bit about abby talking about how nia stands out because she's black was so ignorant.
Abby's racist but doesn't think she is
@@bellapaton7512 Big time! Who can blame the girls for not keeping in touch with that woman.
@@berrisfueller6221 Apparently Jojo can
@@haileyparsons3844 JoJo (Jessalyn) loves money just as much as Abby does, that's why.
@@kimberleyharris8300 No I was referring to how Jojo and Abby both bash the girls about there trauma.
But yeah that’s not suprising, that they do love money.
Abby really asking a 13 year old if she was making out with boys?? reminds me of when she insinuated that Chloe was sneaking off with boys and Chloe was like 10 or 11.
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Chloe was 13 when Abby asked her that
@@julien2168 does that change anything?
She was actually 12
So disgusting she had no boundaries of respect
As a black (former) dancer, while we have come so far from where we once were, i can say it is still very very very hard. In more ways than expected you think too. I have a lot of respect for Nia sharing her story.
As someone who danced and performed in college Nia was completely correct. I have photos of me with white legs because there are no tights my color. Or the many times I got yelled at for not doing my make up right because the garnet red color never showed up bright enough.... WELL IM BLACK... not particularly light skinned either. When I suggested using red on my eyes to mimic the same look they told me if I wasn't uniform I couldn't perform. So either way I was sat out. The one I wanted to use not approved and the one required for use not matching on my skin for obvious reasons. It's honestly the most frustrating type of experience because there's nothing you can do other than take years of your life changing your skin and that's a mental health issue of self hate at that point... which is worse.
Thank you for sharing your personal experience and I am so sorry that you experienced all of that stuff on your dance journey. No one should ever be treated or excluded in that way.
Interesting that the part where Melissa turns to Christ in the audience and is happy about being undefeated it’s for Maddie and Chloe’s duet and not Maddie for her solo. They definitely made it look like Melissa was rubbing it in in the show.
Chloé calling Holly to congratulate her on completing her dissertation..🥺💕 Omg, could that girl be any sweeter?! 😭💗
I really feel like this is the week that killed Paige's confidence and it was COMPLETELY avoidable! It's just heartbreaking. It's one of those moments where I'm wondering where a dance teacher is to tell her, "hey, this SUCKS! But, you know what? Sometimes stuff like this happens. Do NOT worry about your new music, YOU KNOW THIS DANCE! I want you to go out there with Lady Gaga BLASTING in your head, nail this routine like you always have, and then never ever worry about this again. You are a kid, this isn't your fault and you're going to do amazing regardless of the grownups' mistakes!"... Because that's what I did every time my students were scared about a performance and they'd always go out and hit extra hard because they KNEW someone had their back. You can breed winners with kindness, you can breed success while hyping kids up, you can hold kids accountable for their performances without giving them lifelong trauma!
I’m glad there are teachers out there who treat young kids how they deserved to be treated. We should treat adults in the dance community with love and kindness as well. I was always upset with the defense “it’ll get harder when they’re older” because if that is true thats also unwarranted negativity for older dancers.
So nice to finally have context for Melissa turning to Christi and saying "Undefeated! Aren't you happy?"
Even though Melissa is undoubtedly very proud of and thinks very highly of Maddie, for her to blatantly rub her win in someone else's face seemed very out of character for her and never sat right with me.
Chloe is so freaking sweet for trying to call Holly and congratulate her 🥺
you can totally understand why Christi got so mad that weekend. not only were they competing at the comp, they were competing for the cover, and Maddie had 2 perfected old solos, yet Chloe was the only one doing a new one, and rhe other girls never rehearsed with their new music. that's not a fair competition whatsoever. I can't believe Melissa & Abby gaslighted Christi and the public into thinking Christi was just mad Chloe didn't win. u can't be happy another child has won when your child & other children were set up to fail and another guaranteed to win, even if Maddie messed up 1 solo she still had her other solo!
Exactly
Abby and Melissa didn’t gaslight Christi. Christi was implying that Chloe was “better” than Maddie which was unnecessary. If she was more mature and professional then she would have discussed with both of them outside so I don’t blame Melissa or Abby for what they did. I would flip out if someone implied that their kid was better than mine and would call them “crazy and insane”.
People can get mad at me but we know that it’s true
@@marvincorre4783 Christi literally said let’s take it outside yet neither sneaky and conniving Abby or Melissa would. Christi says she regrets hurting Maddie because it wasn’t about Maddie but the lying and favoritism. Melissa and Abby knew if they took it outside then they’d be called out for their devious actions. That’s why Dr. Holly said it needed to be done. So much stuff is getting exposed about Melissa and Abby’s deceitful ways. If anyone actually paid attention they caught it from the beginning. I understand Christi was furious that her daughter was made to seem less than. Abby and Melissa should be ashamed at their actions to sky rocket one while disrespecting the others. Both continue to lie although Abby has admitted to giving Maddie the blatant favoritism at the expense of everyone else.
@@prettypatrece It doesnt mean that Christi can insinuate that Chloe is “better” than Maddie. Its quite obvious that youre one of those people that doesnt like it when others hold Christi accountable and call her out of her actions. Start holding Christi accountable and stop defending her words because she directly attacked a child.
@@marvincorre4783 You’re actually one of those people. Multiple times Melissa said Maddie was better than the other girls. 🥴 Christi can saw the same. If you wouldn’t be mad that your daughter didn’t get a fair shot than you’re absolutely crazy. The funny thing is Christi has apologized for her actions whereas Melissa still deflects and denies any wrongdoings.
It’s interesting to hear Melissa talking about leaving. Especially when Christi mentioned she and Chloe were planning on leaving before the show started then Chloe ended up winning a title and couldn’t leave anymore, which is when they got cast for dance moms
that part where maddy took the trophy from nias hands, i’ve noticed watching past episodes she does that quite a lot. it’s mostly just the old episodes but like she did have a habit of taking trophies and things out of peoples hands
Yes I’ve seen it too when she did bodies electric with Kendall
@@rebeccaw4140 or she was told to
It boils down to the idea that she was labeled as the “leader of the group” by Abby, even though she was the youngest. She felt responsible for her group and blamed herself for their losses (like she did in Electricity) and congratulated herself for their victories (which is why she liked holding the trophies).
I was thinking the same thing. Maddie seems to have gotten a lot nicer as she's gotten older but when she was younger, she definitely needed to always be the winner/the best no matter what
I love how MackZBoss tells all the aspect of a dance moms story. Keep up the amazing, truthful work!
I find it shocking that Melissa wanted to leave so early! I have long held that Melissa is the most different on the show than in real life and that her character is the most difficult one to parse. I loved this video! Do you have any other dance shows you love, be it reality or scripted?
I think she meant that she wouldn't be working there anymore. Not so much pulling the girls from dance.
I agree, Melissa is like an iceberg
I think Melissa was in a bad place, her marriage ended and the Abby took advantage of it. She groomed Maddie at a vulnerability time, when her parents divorced.
Bring It is a pretty good dance show. It’s not the same kind of dance, but those girls are just as amazing.
@@justkaren6450 yes, I still rewatch that show too 😂 Coach D is the perfect example of tough love vs abusive, she screams too but like she screaming at her own kids. Abby now she was just mentally and emotionally abusive.
I guarantee if nia was at a different studio like studio 19 than she would've had better training
Abby was so money hungry. A fee for getting a solo.... for who? The choreographer who works at the studio? Her studio was failing b4 the show but geez.
this is normal for studios! it’s the choreographers time and work. they get paid to teach dance. that includes solos. i thought this was common knowledge. even though it’s abby, she still had to give her time which means $$$
@@lexibeaumont9589 why would dance specific knowledge be common knowledge? I hate it when people say that. Especially about something the average person might not know bc it’s specific for a certain topic. Everyone doesn’t know everything. THAT should be common knowledge.
@@corimoon3360 I mean it should be common knowledge that someone wouldn't get an extra service at a business for free. It is not even dance knowledge lol
@@user-ml9bu9tp2j it's not extra service. they're part of the competition team which is likely extra for tuition so why would dances for the comp be extra. The choreographer should get commissioned but not from parents' pocket.
@@olivedabove I agree that as far of the show goes production should have paid for THESE kids solos but where does that leave every other kid in abby's studio? These 6 girls arent the only ones that compete. How else would the choreographer be paid for their time?
I dont think that Melissa was talking about removing the girls from the aldc but from her no longer working there. I believe by this time she had her boyfriend pay for dance and she was going through a divorce.
Absolutely true
see that's the difference between corrections and critiques and abuse. a dance teacher correcting will say 'your arms are sloppy, please fix them' or show/ tell them specifically how to change them. an abusive one adds on crap like do you want to look like maddie or Nia or calls them space cadet
Wow…those notes certainly put a different perspective on that episode and how the editing twists the narrative. Interesting how the mums were ready to leave Abby after the show was finished after the 6 episodes.
I used to feel so sorry for Nia and holly getting frustrated and left out all the time by Abby
Abby’s the type of person to say racism doesn’t exists anymore LMFAO
FOR REAL! LOL or call you racist because you say racism DOES exist. ur so on point LMAO
5:40 I can completely understand a mother changing their minds about tattoos when their kids grow up, at that age they’re so innocent but as you see them mature I can imagine you start to see them as adults and not the innocent children they once were
I never knew that Nia did Karate
Look up Holly's house tour. Nia does a lot of things.
You learn something new every day
she’s so underrated. she was/is so talented
I’m not a drinker but I think I’d be hiding alcohol on set too if I had to deal with Abby 🤣
me but with blunts
@@-valmetal- 🤣
Melissa might not have known, but she made things worst by defending Abby. If she stood up to Abby with the other moms things would have been different
it made it easier for her kids though. Abby took out her anger towards the moms on the kids and Melissa knew that. At the end of the day, Maddie and Mckenzie were treated better because Melissa never stood up to Abby. The times she did (like in s6 where she tried to get kenzie a hip-hop solo), Abby just threatened to pull the solo completely
@@aditi8403 I disagree, Maddie and McKenzie were also treated badly in a different way. Maddie became to obsessed with winning that she found it hard to be happy for other people and Kenzie lost her confidence.
@@chichi3183 leave the Zieglers alone. Those kids are amazing and it's a proof today.
@@aditi8403 Abby was always abusive with MacKenzie.
@@uniquelyvicky6391 They didn't say anything bad. They spoke about how Maddie and Kenzie mentally suffered because of the show.
Quite interesting that all the moms wanted to leave the aldc even before most of them did it. You can see that they were alredy done with the treat of the kids and I guess in general with Abby. Also, I found really sad that sometimes the producers didnt show the tender moments between the kids. I suppose because they wanted to creat drama with them.
Another amazing episode to shade light on a person who was represented so poorly. I’ve always had respect for Christi and her willingness to stand up and not be silent. But unfortunately that left opportunity for production(and Abby) to manipulate the scene. Christi deserves more credit especially since she’s acknowledged her wrongs publicly unlike another person.
The fact broke has a stress issue and she actually hasn’t grown since she was 14
"Maddie doesn't like missing out on things" AND YOU CONTINUE TO PULL HER OUT OF SCHOOL FOR MORE DANCE?
I love this series so much. It fills in so many blanks for me.
I think you creating these videos makes you an honorary part of the Dance Industry
Okay but i did not know Vivvy was tapping this early. Thats so great to see how fair shes come. Definitely check out her stuff she’s great!!!!
I did not realize there was a choreographer’s fee each time a student was given a solo! No wonder the moms got mad when they got subpar choreography
can i tell you my jaw dropped when you talked about Melissa getting that tattoo removed omg scandalous!!
why didn't they show that on the show c'monn nowww
Cause it would mess with they’re portrayal of her. Melissa was supposed to be the nice, relatable mom with a talented daughter that everyone was jealous of. Anything halfway scandalous would’ve messed with that image.
That’s not her fault-it’s a production issue.
@@Brat120000 well production are a bunch of squares
i love christi and kelly’s back to the barre podcast. i hope they bring dr. holly on as a guest
I bet the moms get the weirdest looks when enter and exit a building multiple times
Why is nobody talking about how cute it is that Chloe called Holly to congratulate her 🥺❤️
I agree with you 100%!!! There was no need to tear other kids down to lift Maddie up!! Maddie not only knew both her solos, but had won with both!! This was a definite setup for Chloe and Paige this week!!
Abby was so disgusting to Paige and Brooke!!
And Abby had no business speaking on the fiancés of the moms. She should worry about paying her own bills
I feel so much for holly and Nia!!! Nia was already facing challenges without Abby piling on!!
Chloe was the sweetest!! Such an underrated dancer (by Abby).
I can’t blame the moms for drinking!! I’d probably stay drunk with all the sabotage, setups, and bullshit
It seems to me that Abby was so jealous of her dancers!! Especially Chloe and Paige. She must have wanted to be Barbie as a kid and never got over it
It’s gross Melissa wasn’t upset about anything that happened that week except the unfairness/inequities getting called out!! She was responsible for getting Paige her music. That one was all on her!!
That's actually false all mellisa actually had to do was download it onto a cd she couldn't do that without it being sent to her first. This one is on production because they probs delayed the process. But of course why should I argue with delusional people
@@Amber.28. you saying “production probs”… we all saw what happened. It DOES NOT take DAYS to burn a CD. Delusional people should scroll on instead of coming onto other peoples comments with that “probs” crap
It makes me sad to hear the girls and parents say they wanted to leave so early on. Like Maddie not knowing how many more years of this she has to go and wishing to leave the next year 😞
Could you do an analysis of the episode where kelly left? I'd love to see how it really played out behind the scenes...because it all seems like the children were manipulated from the beginning.
I think when Melissa said "wait until im not here next year" she may have been talking about not working the front desk next year
Your dedication to these videos is admirable!!
so many manipulative adults in this show , and the kids were the ones caught in the middle :(
Hey Mack, love your videos btw. It gives great insight into what truly happened and helped to connect certain things that were said. I was wondering, hopefully you read this, if you were able to review s3 e5 because that episode Abby said a lot of things to Maddie and Melissa that weren’t shown. I think it’ll help people who say Maddie is ungrateful understand she was just as well under the same treatment.
I’m curious, could you let me know what you let me know about this? I’ve never heard about this before.
@@yanaji7508 Abby was really upset about the moms walking out in the beginning of s3 e1 so then she decided to “degrade Maddie to duet partners with Kendall”, the next day they found out they didn’t win so she was extra upset because of that. Abby preceded to talk to Maddie about the walkout and how she should’ve stopped Melissa basically making it maddies fault by manipulating gaslighting and crying in front Maddie in order to make her cry, which she did. Later in the episode Chloe’s solo is completed Abby then tells Kelly that Chloe’s future can’t be at the expense of Brooke and Paige, which was the “reason” for the walkout. Then tells Melissa she should know what that feels like to which Melissa says everyone make mistakes and then precedes to tell her she’s more worried about the moms then her kids and then alluded to her being the same way with men over her kids in front of both Maddie and Kenzie. This makes Maddie cry and Abby blames her crying for Melissa not caring enough. You can tell there were other things that were said but it wasn’t shown. Maddie has full blown breakdown that we only see 1 minute of.
@@jennaebradshaw1308 and some people say that Maddie and Mackenzie should be grateful to Abby??? My God
I really believe that the producers set it up so Maddie would do better than the other girls. She had two solos, she was more prepared for both. And then there’s Paige’s music. It was set up to provide drama. And it clearly worked because of how Christi blew up.
I really don’t know what to believe when Melissa says that the girls were talking behind Maddie’s back..like they all seemed like really good friends and sweet to each other regardless of the favoritism.
I am not surprised. It evidence of some of their faces whenever Maddie won something. But then again they must have learned that from their parents.
@@uniquelyvicky6391 I agree, although you gotta remember the producers love to edit the episodes a lot so they could make a certain person look like they’re mad or jealous of Maddie’s win, but at the same time I see your point and I think you are also right.
You do know there are other reasons besides winning why people might talk about someone else behind their back? Maybe they didn't like how Maddie acted or something. We don't know. And again, Melissa only knows what Maddie told her. None of us were there, so we have no verification if they in fact gossip behind Maddie's back.
@@Mia_M Yeah I guess, but when Melissa was saying they were talking abt her behind her back I have a feeling she was referring to the favoritism. Not really because she kept on winning, but Abby would ALWAYS make sure she won.
@@sidneyj8567 again, you're making an inference. We'll never know the truth of everything that went on because we weren't there, and the dynamics of the show were a lot more complicated than we were led to believe based on editing.
Ok I feel crazy but this was the first episode I ever saw and I swear when it premiered it had the trophy scene in it where Maddie takes it from Nia
Yeah they edited a lot of stuff form the show they have deleted some episodes too.
okay can someone explain to me how they signed a contract for 6 weeks thinking it would be a documentary type thing, then suddenly it was actually 6 years / seasons? I don't understand that
mackzboss has mentioned it in a few other videos, if i remember correctly I think they signed on for a six week documentary but when the producers realised it could become a longer show and be profitable they basically shoved contracts at the dance moms and gave them very little time to read them over and maybe kind of pressured them into signing what was a six season contract
the producers lied about the contracts and then didnt give the moms enough time to read through it so they just ended signing thinking it was a 6 week docu series, which honestly was a bad mistake on the moms part (very important to always read contracts) but its clear the intention was to deceive them into signing.
I love watching your videos!! Thanks for putting in the effort to do this!
I think Abby was struggling when the show came along. She knew it could be a big break but was frustrated when producers chose dysfunctional moms over competent dancers. Don’t get me wrong; the girls are great for their ages. But Abby wanted her most talented teen dancers to be showcased. The producers chose moms who really disliked Abby and had history with her. So she took out her frustrations on the kids. She decided Maddie was the star and the others were filler, and she wasn’t shy about it. The kids took the brunt of the abuse, but the producers got the drama they wanted to create a good show. These early episodes really show what life at ALDC was really like before the TV show. Kelly’s kids were ignored because of personal drama, especially after Brooke began losing interest. Abby tried to sabotage Chloe because Christi was so vocal about her dislike of Abby. Nia was ignored and type casted. Maddie was the golden child and Melissa was a snake who buddies up to Abby to get the best for her daughter. Even Kenzie was mistreated because she was constantly compared to her sister (just like Paige and Brooke) and was expected to keep up with kids 2-4 years older than her. It was so unfair to the kids.
Abby and the producers were both just awful. Abby seems to think that it’s unreasonable that none of the girls and moms really keep in touch. That, or at least give her recognition and attention maybe.
A lot of people defend Abby, and they think that people like Minister Dawn was a villain. But after finding out from her and channels like this one and Christi’s podcasts…so not the case!
I don’t think it’s fair to call the mums dysfunctional and the girls not competent dancers. They all tried their best with the terrible situation they was in week after week.
Edit: When you think about it the show at beginning was not intended to be a drama filled show. It was supposed to be mini documentary series about the dance world and theses cute little girls who were good dancers and their mums. After the producers saw Abi’s teaching methods and how bad the mum’s relationship were with Abi and each other and how competitive it was. Then the show turned into what it is now. No one went with the intention to create drama it just happened.
@@kezzy-k7860 agreed.
I totally agree with you! Thanks for saying this.
And yet, they all put up with it because they were fame hungry and knew their much more talented than them but still mediocre daughters would be nothing without the show. 🤷♂️
I'm rather enjoying working between Back to the Barre and DMunedited on these episodes. Producers were absolute villains with all this - and the other thing that Christi mentioned is she tried to take that fight outside several times and neither Abby nor Melissa would allow it. It's a mess and the producers caused and enabled so much trauma.
They didn’t want it known (which it was to some like me) that they were sneaky and cheating.
Even in the episode Christy, not sure I'm spelling her name right sorry, even said we need to go out in the hallway. She even said that more than once. And Abby wouldn't allow it she wasn't for it she kept saying no. I remember that I watched the whole episode.
omg i was rewatching all of your videos earlier today because the new one wasnt out yet and i screamed when i saw the notif i love these so much
Can you do a video on why Nia was often excluded during the show, for example in Australia ( because Abby mentioned in one of her videos that Melissa was the reason Nia was often excluded)
Can you send me the link of this video
Thats was a wild statement for Abby to make and I believe her based on the way Melissa treated Holly and Nia that entire season. Nia was starting to get big opportunities, not mediocre ones and Melissa only wants her kids to recieve those benefits.
@@tylerthomas1015 yeah right
Wait a minute, how the heck is Melissa the reason that Nia was excluded? Sounds like to me Abby's just trying to push the blame on someone else.
You do such an incredible job with these videos 👏
Thank you for sharing their truths
MackZboss is a legend!!! Love hearing a fellow Aussie talking! Love your work!!
another incredible video !! thank you xx
how many group dances were there in this episode 😭
I know, right? Those girls had so many dances to memorize just for one competition
Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to make these videos for us. I appreciate it so much and it means the world to me. I’m learning so much! Just wanted to let you know your hard work is not going unnoticed.
Vivi was such a cute little kid, like all of them. How lovely they all are now.
YAAAAAAAAY!
I..... *_ACTUALLY_* .... recieved the new video posted notification!!!
Only 1.5 hours later than the actual posted time. But it is obviously better then the complete lack of notification I've grown used to lol.
Regardless...
Once. Again. Great. Video.
Edit - ironically/interestingly/whatever-ly (lol).
I JUST NOW saw that I missed an entire video that was posted *two weeks ago!*
thank you for the video! keep up the amazing work
Vivi being a Tapper now makes me wish she could've gotten to do a solo in Season 7 where it was Tap it makes me sad her only shining solo moments on the show are the Bee Dance and The Cowgirl solo from Season 1.
While Christi handled her frustration wrong her heart was in the right place. Maddie had an unfair advantage having 2 solos she already knew while Chloe had a brand new solo and while the other girls had to adapt to new songs and while Paige only got her music 8 hours before she danced. If Maddie was gonna do 2 solos why couldn't the girls get 2 solos as well or at least solos they already knew with the original songs and production could just dub different music over it on the show like they did with a lot of the routines in Season 7.5.
Blah blah blah.. like move on already.
@@uniquelyvicky6391 You’re the one on a video about the show….. Christi’s kid was set up to fail she was right to call out the blatant sabotage and favoritism
@@Thomassteven00 obsession with the Zieglers will never end. Like how many years now?? Like I said, move on.
@@uniquelyvicky6391 What Obsession?! Chloe was abused and sabotaged because of Abby’s favoritism towards The Zieglers and Christi has every right to point it out. There is no obsession it’s stating facts. It’s always the Maddie Stans who gaslight Christi and Chloe.
@@Thomassteven00 girl you're obsessed. Move on already.
Abby always put down one girl while praise Maddie
Anyone else think that food at Christie’s house look good? Now I want a salad, a croissant sandwich and a cupcake…but my plain turkey and yogurt will do!
Ty for the vid love your vids
i want to see a episode of dance mom un edited on maddie forgetting her solo
Hey Just noticed this but in the epsiode where Abby wants to hear abt the story about Melissa’s engagement you can see Maddie is where I don’t know a mic pack? maybe look into that
Do you think Melissa was referring to not working at the aldc, not leaving?
This is interesting comparing it to what Kelly and Christi said on their podcast
I will say, yes it’s unfair that Maddie got to preform two solos that she already knew, especially since Chloe had to learn hers that week. But oftentimes at a dance competition, tap dances don’t place in the overall. It’s very very very difficult to win anything with a tap solo, not impossible but extremely difficult. You can have a judges panel where none of the judges have tapped before and it can be hard to score a tap number if you don’t know tap technique well. Definitely not saying it’s fair that Maddie got two solos but it’s very unlikely she would have placed with tap anyway so I’m not surprised Abby gave her two solos. I don’t think it’s fair that she got to perform Cry against Chloe though. It would have been more fair if she had to learn a new solo and did her tap solo or if Chloe got to perform an old solo.
That's even worse, if you ask me. First, they had more than enough dances to perform to that competition, why give Maddie to worry about two dances.
Second, why give Maddie two solos, when one of them is clearly a winning number, and the other might not even place? She's just taking rehearsal time from the other girls with this one.
@@miakirilova7255 it sounds like tap was a passion for Maddie, at least from what I have heard her say in videos and in interviews. So it's possible that number felt more like a fun dance than something to worry about. It could be that she is taking rehearsal time from the other girls, but it also wouldn't take as much rehearsal time because Maddie already knew her dances so she could run them without a coach's help. I guess what I was trying to say is that as a dancer who competed for several years, oftentimes there are more reasons to compete a number than what the show led on. It's also important to keep in mind that each dance competition is different and scores dances differently. It's possible Maddie's tap number was entered into the competition in a way where it wouldn't be scored against all the other numbers so she wouldn't have even qualified for an overall. And it's possible that her solos were entered in different categories than Chloe's were. The show makes it seem like dance competitions are scored in an easy and upfront way. In my many years of competing, every competition is very different and I have been to some of the competitions they went to on the show and based on my own personal experience, the produces make it seem a lot different than how it is in reality. They don't show 75% of the competition and how it's scored.
I think she actually placed in a previous comp with that tap solo.
I hope you can find notes on the episode where everyone fights over Melissa's engagement ring
I lose a lot of respect for Cathy in this episode. Any other mom, when their kid is done dancing, good or bad, they’re ready to greet them with a huge hug and words of comfort. However, Vivi gets off stage and gets a half-ass hug and is told, “You were about 8 counts ahead of the music. Mommy’s not pleased with what you did honey”…….who says that to their child? And then wonders why they aren’t enthusiastic about dancing?!? That’s just sad.
Vivi should of never neen dancing with the Elites
I used to do competition dance, and there was only one Asian girl and one African American girl on the team. I overheard our assistant studio director say "if I had it MY way, the competition team would be all white girls!"
im pretty sure abby had a crush on kurt when they were in high school and probably still did at the time
......... and how do you figure that?
Love your videos😍
Maddie taking an award out of Nia’s hands is so rude. I know they were kids but it’s still rude especially because Nia was already ostracized from the group.
To be fair, she was the youngest on the show besides Kenzie. She had just turned 8 while the others were about 2 years older. She was labeled as the “leader of the team” by Abby, so she felt accountable for the team, and that incudes taking the fall for a group dance not doing well (like she did in Electricity) and holding trophies (like she did here.)
Especially since we know Nia wouldn’t have snatched it back or made a fuss. Maddie has done that other times as well. I remember when she did it to Kendall.
@@fantasyaldc8802 no it was whomever grabbed the trophy first. Maddie did the same to Kendall.
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It doesn’t matter who grabs the trophy first. Because Abby constantly put the “leader” pressure on Maddie, Maddie felt responsible for the team. Maddie liked to hold the trophies to emphasize herded being the leader of the team, since that was the label Abby gave to her and expected her to uphold.
@@fantasyaldc8802 that makes zero sense. Others have grabbed trophies before with zero problems. Maddie shouldn’t have grabbed the trophy from Nia. Maddie wasn’t the leader. Funny how Abby even said on numerous episodes how Brooke was the oldest and should be the leader. Just because she placed Maddie front and center the majority of the time doesn’t give her the right to snatch anything. How would you feel if that happened to your child. 🥴
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It’s funny how even with proof that this show was heavily edited and at times scripted people still believe this show was a 100 percent real. 🙄
Can you do the vegas episode where Paige had a panic attack it would be interesting to see what happened that day.
I realize she was a kid, but Melissa allowed Maddie to be such a huge brat. Grabbing a trophy out of another kids hand?! I would NEVER let my daughter behave that way. That girl could not take not being the constant center of attention
It wasn’t about being “center of attention.” Maddie revealed in an earlier interview that she was an introvert and didn’t like being the center of attention, and she was bullied in school. It was the idea that Abby labeled her as the “leader of the group.” Maddie felt responsible for their losses and successes. When the group lost Electricity, Maddie put all the blame on herself for her timing issues, even though there were bigger issues than that. With the same logic, whenever the team got a trophy, she was happy holding them.
We all all know if another child did that then Abby would’ve snapped at that kid.
Tbh I think it was probably just being excited sorta thing and wanting to see and hold the trophy because you’re an excited 8 year old
Girl move on already
@@uniquelyvicky6391 Bro you’re under every damn comment acting like a child. Grow up
Haha Maddie has my name as a tattoo.😝 Never realized Mackenzie's middle name was my first name as well 😅🥰
This is insane
i dont know if you did this already, but if you didn't, could you do a video on the production notes on the episode that got deleted with the christi kelly huge fight and when brooke was on the senior team? they removed it from lifetime and i never got to see it
Your voice is the best on RUclips.
I’m assuming this competition was multiple days as you mentioned Brooke performed “two days later?”
Abby probably enjoyed a man touching her in any way so that's why she didn't complain or go off.
Christi made this show. Honestly she is pretty good at bringing it.
Hey Mackzboss if you see this (which you probably won’t lol)but anyway I kinda noticed something weird during a dance that I don’t think you’ve talked about (or maybe it’s just me seeing it wrong)during Nia and Kendall’s duet ‘dig it’ there was a guy in the audience or at the judges table that had a creepy and menacing grin while watching it from 0:28-0:29 in the original full dance posted by lifetime or maybe I’m just over reacting and there was nothing wrong with his expression but it kinda disturbed me
For some reason I was watching this video even though I have stuff to do
I was watching Todrick Hall’s ALDCLA advert (Ease on Down the Boulevard in the competition) and some comments were suggesting that Jojo’s part was originally intended for Mackenzie. Does anyone have thoughts/evidence as I’m curious?
chloe performed baby mine because maddie was doing an interview in that episode, chloe was in the background stretching in her baby mine costume
It sucks the other girls were set up to lose all the time!!! They deserved better!! Why was Maddie taking the rehearsal time if she already knew both of her dances?? It’s so sad how those girls were set up to fail!! Maddie was still competing Cry into Season 2. It sounds like Christi was on the money about sabatoge… Paige not getting new music until the day of the competition sounds about right for Abby and Melissa
Whu is christi even still talking about the Zieglers? Obsession much...
@@uniquelyvicky6391 We are ALL still talking about it, and so are ALL of the cast members.
@@heatherward5053 .where have you seen or heard the Zieglers talk about Christi? And the Zieglers rarely talk about Dance Moms, especially Maddie.
@@uniquelyvicky6391 Is that you Melissa?
@@uniquelyvicky6391 Vicky is it I recognize your username. Why are you in the comment section calling everybody obsessed with the Ziegler’s? Just because they don’t agree with what Melissa and Abby were doing and they’re underhanded ways. it seems like you’re the one who’s obsessed with them.