LEGENDARY bass line vs MODERN bass line

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  • Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2021
  • This week we're looking at two epic bass lines from two different generations. First, we listen to @TheBeatles 1966 classic "Taxman" with @PaulMcCartney on bass. Then, we compare that with the modern groove of @thundercatmusic in his funky performance on his song "Them Changes."
    I'm @Jackconte the CEO of @Patreon and one-half of the bands @ScaryPockets and @Pomplamoose.
    Joining me today are 3 of my best musician friends;
    @lelandsklar6363 the most prolific bassist of all time, he's played with Phil Collins, James Taylor, Carol King and Toto.
    @nicolesrow who plays bass with @panicatthedisco
    @ryanlermanmusic a professional guitarist the other half of Scary Pockets
    Here are our recommendations for our desert island bassists:
    @lelandsklar6363: Ray Brown, James Jameson, Carol Kaye, Jack Bruce, and John Entwistle
    @nicolesrow: @derrickhodge8206
    Here is the music we discussed in the episode;
    The Beatles - Taxman
    • Taxman (Remastered 2009)
    Thundercat - Them Changes
    • Thundercat - 'Them Cha...
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  • @jesseruhland2983
    @jesseruhland2983 2 года назад +1218

    Thundercat is the reason I started playing bass at the age of 35.

    • @FunkadelicPancho
      @FunkadelicPancho 2 года назад +37

      Thundercat is the reason I bought a 6 string

    • @spurngbab4542
      @spurngbab4542 2 года назад +13

      fuck yea man

    • @forastero4ever
      @forastero4ever 2 года назад +5

      Who's thundercat? A carrtoon? I think they don't even know them at home 😴

    • @FunkadelicPancho
      @FunkadelicPancho 2 года назад +45

      @@forastero4ever he's literally in the thumbnail of the video....

    • @lucaswallo8127
      @lucaswallo8127 2 года назад

      cool

  • @argentandroid5732
    @argentandroid5732 2 года назад +840

    Watching Leland and Nicole together is like watching a proud grandpa and the favorite granddaughter he sees himself the most in.

    • @KingCrimson82
      @KingCrimson82 Год назад +13

      No its not and this comment is artificially bloated for lore

  • @tommyrq180
    @tommyrq180 2 года назад +296

    Everything Leland Sklar says is a flex because he is omnipresent. “I was playing with Toto…” Just a ridiculously amazing career and he’s so genuine.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 9 месяцев назад +6

      Scary, they got a REAL legend with them this time.
      I think Leland has been professionally recorded on more songs than ANY other bass player - including dozens if not a couple HUNDRED #1 hits.

    • @caiocostalouback1866
      @caiocostalouback1866 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah.. he's not arrogant at all. Love it

  • @kennet7837
    @kennet7837 2 года назад +189

    The Hofner was Paul's signature bass, but he used the Rickenbacker on "Taxman".

    • @ConnorHammond
      @ConnorHammond Год назад +3

      When they said it's the Hofner, I was thinking 'there's no way that aint a Rickenbacker' 🤟

    • @predeterminedmeat5024
      @predeterminedmeat5024 11 месяцев назад +3

      Rickenbacker basses are just. Amazing

    • @piscesman54
      @piscesman54 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yep. 100% No Hofner would ever sound like that, no matter what you did to it.

    • @paulricketts10
      @paulricketts10 Месяц назад

      I should looked below to see if someone else spotted that. Now I'll remove my comment!

  • @EduardoMano
    @EduardoMano 2 года назад +28

    "At the end of the day, I'm fanboy"
    Leland Sklar, ladies and gents. THE Leland Sklar, fanboying over Macca.
    Doesn't get much better than that.

  • @mrtyreus0
    @mrtyreus0 2 года назад +170

    The layers of bass on Them Changes makes me recall Stevie Wonder's layers of clavs specifically on Superstition.

    • @bryanchandler3486
      @bryanchandler3486 2 года назад +22

      Stevie wonder's mid-70s run where he was just making like smash album after smash album just layering tons of funky-ass synthesizer shit was something else for sure

    • @krunchherblock1302
      @krunchherblock1302 11 месяцев назад +1

      Or better yet, Stevie's HIGHER GROUND......Check it out!

  • @Yeetus223
    @Yeetus223 2 года назад +129

    Bass players are some of the coolest, nicest, supportive people I know. I can confirm this because I am a guitar player who has tried many times to learn bass, I’m not that cool.

    • @Smoke3380
      @Smoke3380 2 года назад

      Ain't trying then bro

    • @dunxy
      @dunxy Год назад +1

      Keep at it, long time guitar player but recently got into bass and ive found it pretty easy for the more basic stuff, often able to play it instantly in real time from tabs, something i can rarely do with guitar. As a bonus as well it has improved my finger and hand strength a lot and also improved my fingerstyle.

    • @skepchica
      @skepchica 9 месяцев назад

      It makes sense tho, right? It's their position.

  • @dalejones4322
    @dalejones4322 2 года назад +931

    This channel has really went to a whole new level. Dissecting classics and modern funk masterpieces is really interesting. Having the quality of musicians you been getting really adds so much to the conversation. The older guys have seen so much and what they have to say needs to be heard. Thanks guys for fine tuning this to such a great channel.

    • @LiftwithLars
      @LiftwithLars 2 года назад

      @Andrew Bueno I believe you... Kind of... But... Those 3 middle fingers at the end of your sentence seem contradicting... 🤔
      I LOVE that this one is way longer than previous videos; keep up the good work! 💪🏼😆

    • @Jose_diazlife
      @Jose_diazlife 2 года назад +1

      Agreed, this channel is just becoming better and better😇

    • @ashleywhiteman2684
      @ashleywhiteman2684 2 года назад

      @@aidenjbass c
      Fcbnkmndv

    • @elusivelectron
      @elusivelectron 10 месяцев назад

      Desert island bass players: Vic Wooten, Les Claypool, and Tony Levin.

  • @skybluemarshall
    @skybluemarshall 2 года назад +89

    The famous joke about Ringo not being the best drummer in the Beatles was never said by John Lennon. It was written by Geoffrey Perkins and said by Philip Pope on a 1981 radio comedy show.
    Ringo is widely viewed by many world famous drummers as a great drummer. Most of the drumming world agrees that although Ringo was not a great technical drummer, he kept good time and more importantly, he had great "feel". This means that he instinctively knew how to drive a song, make it pop and make it sound better. He very often created interesting, memorable drum parts and fills, that fit in perfectly with the music.
    The three other Beatles were all exposed to many great drummers in their careers and they all loved Ringo and heaped many praises on his drumming.

    • @thenewholistic
      @thenewholistic Год назад +2

      Spot on! This is a bass player video, but I always gotta remind people that Ringo is GREAT. If anyone thinks not, I dare you to go back to any of their studio records and try to play along, seriously, try to do what Ringo did. He was a metronome with great style and touch. He was everything that Beatles’ songs needed as a drummer

    • @Bcananzey
      @Bcananzey Год назад +2

      I think its just a joke. Everyone with a brain knows Ringo is one on the best drummers when it came to serving the songs the Beatles created. He wasn't flashy he was solid and the right Drummer for that band.

    • @royeap3404
      @royeap3404 Год назад +6

      the fact that he kept good time and had amazing feel makes him a great "technical" drummer. it's just that he wasn't flashy

    • @skybluemarshall
      @skybluemarshall Год назад +5

      @@Bcananzey Well, there's a lot of brainless people on the internet, because I have read many comments that trashed Ringo for not being as good as other legendary drummers and they almost always seem to quote this joke as though it came directly from Ringo's bandmates and was not intended as a joke.
      The haters often call Ringo an average player, who was the luckiest drummer in the world. That's a very popular slam against Ringo. I've read that one many times. But, nothing could be further from the truth. The other three Beatles actually considered themselves very lucky to have had Ringo in their band.

    • @kkringle3043
      @kkringle3043 Год назад +2

      Thanks for this comment and follow up. I went immediately to comments to see if someone had corrected the quote. When he said it during the video it made me cringe. Especially how the others all laughed and accepted it. I was really hoping one of them would chime in and correct it in the video.

  • @dx7tnt
    @dx7tnt 2 года назад +70

    Huge Beatlemaniac here. The magic missing ingredient to get that punch and attack is a Fairchild compressor gluing the drums and the bass together as they're tracking to tape and then mixing.

    • @JordieFilip
      @JordieFilip Год назад +1

      Hit the nail on the head here

    • @piscesman54
      @piscesman54 11 месяцев назад

      Nailed it like a boss.

  • @lexo30
    @lexo30 2 года назад +322

    Btw, Lennon never said that Ringo wasn't the best drummer in the Beatles. Literally no record of him ever saying that. This joke has been traced to a British radio comedy sketch from 1981. Just throwing that in there.

    • @spammalina
      @spammalina 2 года назад +16

      Exactly - why do so many people perpetuate this mythical comment about Ringo to John. I believe Jaspar Carrott (a comedian over here in the UK) also used the same gag about Ringo on TV in one of his sets.

    • @joel2421
      @joel2421 2 года назад +6

      It’s true that Lennon never said it, but it’s also true . . .

    • @KariKauree
      @KariKauree 2 года назад +13

      @@joel2421 Oh, you don't think Ringo was a good drummer? Paul was better? 😂🥱

    • @joel2421
      @joel2421 2 года назад +7

      @@KariKauree Name another big time band where they would let the bass player play drums on actual records? Or sometimes use session drummers? Who could imagine Led Zeppelin or the Stones doing such a thing?

    • @joel2421
      @joel2421 2 года назад +1

      @@KariKauree Name another big time band where they would let the bass player play drums on actual records? Or sometimes use session drummers? Who could imagine Led Zeppelin or the Stones doing such a thing?

  • @lurcher.4118
    @lurcher.4118 2 года назад +349

    Man, you can just tell that these guys aren’t only just incredibly knowledgeable about music but are absolutely in love with it too. Couldnt stop smiling the entire video, hyped to see more!

  • @beatmasterbossy
    @beatmasterbossy 2 года назад +29

    I love it when musicians listen to a part and just go "oh my god, that, whatever that is, is amazing"

  • @stevenwillie2782
    @stevenwillie2782 Год назад +5

    Picking up a bass again after 25 years of supporting a disabled wife and a disabled son. They're mostly healthy now. I'm starting from scratch again, playing bass. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. You have inspired me. Tears in my eyes inspired.

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 2 года назад +329

    I'm glad Lee appreciates McCartney's playing as much as I do. Easily my biggest influence. He's rhythmic, he's harmonic, he's melodic, and his tone is perfection. I tend to like his parts that move around a bit more than "Taxman," but you can't deny the groove.
    And by the way, Paul's picking technique is not the only reason the bass sounds so "explosive," Jack. It has a lot to do with production. Geoff Emerick was the engineer on Revolver and he was doing all sorts of creative things to feature Paul's bass. He has a book about recording the Beatles that's a great read if you're as nerdy about production as I am.

    • @akwilson1676
      @akwilson1676 2 года назад +8

      Rain is easily his best.

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ 2 года назад +7

      Also they messed up that was Hofner. In ‘66 he was recording all stuff on Rickenbacker, that’s why it sounds like it sounds. They really should know a little better while doing video about something hah...

    • @richardrichard5409
      @richardrichard5409 2 года назад

      @@_-_Michael_-_ yup and Fender Jazz bass too. Started in 65 with some Rubber Soul tracks and Day Ttripper😎

    • @skwidwurd9088
      @skwidwurd9088 2 года назад +1

      @@richardrichard5409 Uhm, no. Try '68 when the Jazz basses (left hand & right hand) showed up.

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ 2 года назад +3

      Judging from photos it was just 1968 when Jazz Bass made it’s apperance, never heard or read it mentioned somewhere earlier. ‘65 should be just Horner and Rick transition period, all rick in ‘66-‘67 and in ‘68 there is some Jazz Bass, ‘69 return of both Hofners and some Rick, and ‘70 would be Rick.

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack3940 2 года назад +113

    I have the utmost respect for Leland after this. His attitude that someone of his stature can still learn something from a rookie is a rare level of both wisdom and humility. And Nicole's lack of an "idol" was refreshing. I've always felt kind of odd because I can't point to someone and say they're the reason I like the bass. I just like the instrument itself. Knowing I'm not the only one is nice.

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille 2 года назад +3

      Well, I wouldn't call anyone in this room a rookie... Panic! At the disco is a worldwide touring band after all. I don't think Leland was touring with Phil Colins at her age.

    • @annefranceb6495
      @annefranceb6495 2 года назад

      @@jas_bataille ruclips.net/video/Ghk6CC55r7A/видео.html

    • @Boethius411
      @Boethius411 Год назад

      I was just the kid who wanted to play in a band and my friends were better at drums and guitar than I was… so I decided I would become a bass badass. 😂it worked until we couldn’t find a singer and I stepped out front. I play a little if everything now but bass is still my favorite instrument.

  • @dfpguitar
    @dfpguitar 2 года назад +188

    the special thing about McCartney is that the melodic core of the song is always fully apparent in the bass part. You could tell what song it was and enjoy it as pretty well rounded with just the bass on its own, definitely with bass and vocals.
    Most bass parts in other rock and pop is pure background harmonic filler. Even when it gets twiddly it rarely delivers the melody.

  • @JGtheChampion
    @JGtheChampion 2 года назад +27

    I appreciate the fact that they're actually complementing Thundercats song for being mostly comprised of loops. I feel like a lot of times people hateon music that's created that way

  • @angeldquintas
    @angeldquintas 2 года назад +137

    Paul started playing his Rickenbacker bass exclusively during the Rubber Soul era, so he mostly used his Rick bass on Revolver! That’s why the lower notes go a bit deeper and why it’s a bit more percussive :)

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ 2 года назад +9

      Exactly, how can pros like this mess this up and nobody in room corrected them on this... shame

    • @thexdude
      @thexdude 2 года назад +8

      @@_-_Michael_-_ It's a bit hard to tell, plus most people who haven't really researched the Beatles may've simply thought that since the Hofner and the Rick kinda sound a little similar.

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ 2 года назад +16

      @@thexdude Yes the lack of research on this is present... BTW as someone who played both Rick and Hofner, you can make Rick sound like Hofner (like Paul did on Come together for example) but you can’t make Hofner sound like Rick 😂 Rick is gnarly beast that has sustain. Hofner is delicate eggshell, with more “upright bass” tone and timbre to it. Also what helps the confusion here is that Paul played Hofner live in ‘66, if he played Rick as on record there would not be so much co fusion over this.

    • @thexdude
      @thexdude 2 года назад +2

      @@_-_Michael_-_ Makes sense.

    • @richardrichard5409
      @richardrichard5409 2 года назад +1

      @@_-_Michael_-_ 100% spot on

  • @DanielRWomack
    @DanielRWomack 2 года назад +49

    Shoutout to Hope for 21:28 in demoing what Nicole was explaining with her MXR. Didn't go unnoticed and much appreciated.

    • @VendettaMax
      @VendettaMax Год назад +1

      What a boss for doing that. I heard it and went looking for someone else who noticed. Next level detail there, Hope.

  • @johnhoerl7326
    @johnhoerl7326 2 года назад +93

    One of the important factors in the bass sound of Taxman (along with Paul switching to a Rickenbacker) is a change in how George Martin recorded the bass. According to the book Beatles ‘66, Martin had a studio engineer rewire a speaker cone backwards so it would function as a bass mic. The larger surface area of the cone captured more of the bigger wave forms from the bass amp.

    • @stuffandjunkanduhh5049
      @stuffandjunkanduhh5049 2 года назад +4

      No rewiring required. Any speaker can be used as a microphone as is actually. Pretty useful trick for kick drum to get a little extra boop haha.

    • @jacquescousteau217
      @jacquescousteau217 2 года назад +1

      That was early on. By the time of the Rick in 65 Paul was using a Vox 100 watt head with various cabs. I think possibly four 12 inch at the time, could be smaller bottom, but they did a bit of both direct,and miking the cab as well. I always thought it bizarre that they used like U 47-57 Neumann’s to mix the guitar,and I assume bass amps. Then again I’m not an engineer …

    • @joshuapriest1777
      @joshuapriest1777 2 года назад +4

      You should read "Here There and Everywhere" by Geoff Emerick. He was the engineer you speak of

    • @jacquescousteau217
      @jacquescousteau217 2 года назад

      @@joshuapriest1777 I did …

    • @jacquescousteau217
      @jacquescousteau217 2 года назад +2

      That was Emericks doing, he was the engineer, George was the producer albeit I’m sure at the end of the day he approved whatever engineer was working with the Beatles he approved of .

  • @apothecurio
    @apothecurio 2 года назад +164

    It should be noted that Thunder Cat’s live shows are an entirely different beast. If you could imagine like a hyper active 90’s Japanese video game boss battle. Pretty much that for an hour and a half. He treats his songs as how any jazzer treats a jazz standard. Play like a minute of the actual song and then improv for like 5-10 minutes off of that.

    • @juliespore
      @juliespore 2 года назад +4

      Seeing him live this Tuesday for the first time. So stoked for that.

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt 2 года назад +1

      Yup. Just get your mind blown the whole time..the drummer and keys player are just as crazy as he is too 😁

    • @okbill18yearsagoedited25
      @okbill18yearsagoedited25 2 года назад +3

      ok here me out, im seeing RHCP, thunder cat, and beck at the same show this summer im so excited

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt 2 года назад

      @@okbill18yearsagoedited25 damn where's that at? Sounds awesome

    • @okbill18yearsagoedited25
      @okbill18yearsagoedited25 2 года назад

      @@papa_pt Sofi stadium in los angles

  • @petermeter8221
    @petermeter8221 2 года назад +35

    The amazing thing about Taxman was that it was recorded back in 1966 and McCartney was only 23 turning 24. Bass on “Old Brown Shoe”, “Dear Prudence”, “Something”, “And Your Bird Can Sing”, “Rain”. Too many to mention.

    • @McDoinky
      @McDoinky Год назад +2

      old brown shoe is harrison

  • @enigmah625
    @enigmah625 2 года назад +100

    Still in the middle of watching, but, watching Leland just shaking his head in awe over Thundercat’s “Them Changes” is a perfect way to describe how I feel when I see Stephen, Dennis & Justin live, straight adoration, inspiration and complete absorption of everything being played . Also, I’m 99% sure Stephen uses a MoogerFooger MF-101 for envelope, I usually see it with a couple more pedals during his shows.

  • @whiskeycrusaderwill8699
    @whiskeycrusaderwill8699 2 года назад +55

    Don't worry about the length of your videos Jack! I would sit through another 2 hours of that conversation, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that thought.

  • @sebastianloaizamusic2856
    @sebastianloaizamusic2856 2 года назад +5

    Leland is the most fucking humble person I've seen... He's just amazing.

    • @freewheelerscelloband3631
      @freewheelerscelloband3631 10 дней назад

      absolutely. We met him at the Namm Warwick stand and he had time to talk a bit with us.

  • @fernandoperdomomusic
    @fernandoperdomomusic 2 года назад +14

    Its actually Paul's Rickenbacker 4001 on Revolver..

  • @fheering
    @fheering 2 года назад +99

    Hey, don't you guys at Professional Musicians React think that an episode (or two, or three, or more...) with sound engineers would be cool? About sound engineering and the lot?

  • @Jose_diazlife
    @Jose_diazlife 2 года назад +9

    So happy you included TCat

  • @Mis4Mountain
    @Mis4Mountain 2 года назад +44

    Leland is absolutely incredible. His knowledge and experience is something to stand in awe of.

  • @aa-xi8bc
    @aa-xi8bc 2 года назад +10

    Wow, almost 40 minute video. We’re being spoiled! Thanks for the great videos guys

    • @lizziebirch2871
      @lizziebirch2871 2 года назад

      But don't you just love being spoiler?! 🥳

    • @donalmaguire6099
      @donalmaguire6099 2 года назад +3

      its about 5 hours too short. could listen to these all day.

  • @1bassman9
    @1bassman9 2 года назад +27

    True story !!! After playing guitar a few years I was attracted to the bass after I heard Lee Sklar playing the bass in "Your Smilin' Face". Knowing very little about bass playing I went to a consignment shop over 40 years ago on Melrose Ave in West Hollywood and picked up a bass to play. It was an old Fender and the neck was practically worn down but my fingers were doing things I could never imagine playing as if tracks were laid in the neck. The sales rep confided in me that it was consigned by Lee Sklar !!!

  • @laural.enright4780
    @laural.enright4780 2 года назад +75

    One of the songs that I think reall y shows off McCartney's inventiveness is Cry Baby Cry where he comes up with four different bass lines for each stanza. It's really fantastic to listen to to headphones
    Also, the John Lennon "quote" about Ringo has been debunked. John never said it.

    • @Sponiwolf
      @Sponiwolf 2 года назад +3

      " ... has been debunked. John never said it." -- Thank you :)

    • @Crushenator500
      @Crushenator500 2 года назад +16

      It pains me every time I hear that dumb quote, 'comedian' Jasper Carrot made it up in the 80s. John could have played with anyone during his solo career, but he stuck with Ringo because he really is a damn good player.

    • @laural.enright4780
      @laural.enright4780 2 года назад +5

      @@Crushenator500 Yeah, there's a great video on RUclips of all these drummers talking about how much they were inspired by Ringo Starr's work. Ringo was perfect for that group.

    • @jacquescousteau217
      @jacquescousteau217 2 года назад +8

      I’m glad you said it first. Lennon indeed never said it, it was some comedian - asshole - that said it,and never retacted it after it became a catch phrase ,and a Ringo put down.

    • @louiebellas
      @louiebellas 2 года назад +4

      Yes! I’ve always thought Cry Baby Cry is a masterpiece in all fields. That second verse, the drums and bass lock in perfectly it’s such a great groove over that dark descending pattern. Really demonstrates the chemistry of the Beatles, I don’t know how they would’ve done it but Paul and Ringo were clearly experts at hearing what works best. Even George’s very minimal but amazing lead input in that song is brilliant. All four were incredibly professional musicians without realising. I could go on for hours.

  • @alexgourdikian1741
    @alexgourdikian1741 2 года назад +20

    Seeing Thundercat live is insane. It's crazy to see how he can make so much music with 1 six string bass and some pedals.

  • @joelapp
    @joelapp 2 года назад +3

    The thundercat bass sounds like they hired Bootsy.

  • @RDubs15
    @RDubs15 2 года назад +47

    I came to the bass the same way Nicole did - I loved the lines (and the instrument) and wanted to learn to play. I’m always so glad to learn from these incredible musicians!
    Every time I watch these videos I hear something new in the songs that I love and it really increases my appreciation not only for the songs you analyze but songs that utilize similar techniques.

  • @Sagnad8
    @Sagnad8 2 года назад +34

    It would be great to get your thoughts on the Get Back documentary film!

    • @Billchu13
      @Billchu13 2 года назад

      8 hours? What is this, a documentary for Peter Jackson fans?

    • @Sagnad8
      @Sagnad8 2 года назад +8

      @@Billchu13 for me it’s a great insight into the way the band worked (and didn’t work) and a chance to see some of the most iconic musicians of our time do what they do best. In all of its glory/tedium/politics.

    • @slippinjimmy6511
      @slippinjimmy6511 2 года назад +2

      @@Billchu13 🤯

    • @tamifaulkner4103
      @tamifaulkner4103 2 года назад +3

      @@Billchu13 Worth every hour to true Beatles fans.

    • @Billchu13
      @Billchu13 2 года назад +1

      @@tamifaulkner4103 I plan to watch with my dad, as we are both LOTR and Beatles fans. Timing will be difficult with how long the doc is.

  • @splashofun
    @splashofun 2 года назад +14

    That old Isley Bros. "Boiling Funk" Sound. I think Supercat knew some people would recognise it, so I like how he added the "Footsteps" drum beat. The Isleys used that"Boiling" sound in several songs, look 'em up! Great post you all!

    • @smoothoscillator1
      @smoothoscillator1 2 года назад

      First time I heard that thundercat song I thought he lifted the beat and bassline from Isley bros. I agree with you on why he used the “footsteps” beat - sort of a shout out to the Isley brothers

    • @DaveDEF82
      @DaveDEF82 2 года назад +5

      @@smoothoscillator1 Debatable if only a head nod to the Isleys or also to the way J Dilla used those drums for "One won't do" as Thundercat is also a BIIIIG Dilla head.

  • @raystaar
    @raystaar Год назад +6

    I'm a massive Beatles fan and have been from the gate. Back in the day, I used to get grief from friends and roommates for putting my favorite tracks on endless repeat, day after day, so it does my heart good to hear people like Leland and Nicole wax rhapsodic about how mega and multitalented they all were and are. I just discovered this channel, by the way, and I'm loving it. Thanks, guys.

  • @codymccloud7718
    @codymccloud7718 2 года назад +26

    I hope guests might start bringing their rigs, or some pared down version, with them. I would love to see Nicole demo that Synth sound she's talking about. And who wouldn't want to see Leland Sklar do his Hendrix thing?

  • @KenSpassione
    @KenSpassione 9 месяцев назад +3

    Listening to taxman, one of the things that Paul manages to do is synchronized beautifully with Ringo's snare hit. It gives very very broad sense of impact and his low and low mid makes that snare hit so much stronger. These guys were the masters of the BackBeat. Unbelievable!

  • @cyclone1276
    @cyclone1276 2 года назад +89

    That thundercat song is incredibly groovy and funky! I’ve never heard them before; you have turned me onto a new sound yet again...
    Idk how long you’d have to make this video, but seeing you guys breaking down Talking Heads masterpiece: Stop Making Sense (the full concert) would be an amazing and informative video.

    • @akmadsen
      @akmadsen 2 года назад +20

      Oh, man. You've stumbled upon a treasure trove. Thundercat (and friends) is doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Enjoy! :)

    • @1998Cebola
      @1998Cebola 2 года назад +11

      You should check out Flying Lotus who produces a lot of Thundercat

    • @Johnny-oc2kl
      @Johnny-oc2kl 2 года назад +8

      Thunder and his friends are like the high school genius weirdos you admired but never talked to.

    • @justsomejusstsome8994
      @justsomejusstsome8994 2 года назад +2

      "them"? It's just one guy

    • @andersonneil2293
      @andersonneil2293 2 года назад +4

      @@justsomejusstsome8994 Them can be singular

  • @RussellBeattie
    @RussellBeattie 2 года назад +15

    Just watched Get Back this past weekend and have been re-obsessed with the Beatles all week, so this is such a great video right now. You guys should do an episode about it.

    • @dansmithwave
      @dansmithwave 2 года назад +4

      One of the many things Get Back has cleared up once and for all is that Ringo definitely WAS the best drummer in The Beatles. 😎

  • @michaeldoherty8653
    @michaeldoherty8653 2 года назад +10

    Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is an amazing line. He also wrote the arpeggiated guitar part.

  • @Jim_Thomas_Draper
    @Jim_Thomas_Draper 2 года назад +18

    Hi! Huge Beatles nerd here (and as it happens I live on the next street from where Paul grew up!). This is an excellent episode, but I am gonna nitpick a couple of things (just in case anyone happens to find this interesting!).
    They didn't all go to school together. The original lineup of The Quarrymen (the band that eventually evolved into The Beatles) were mostly John's schoolfriends (their school was Quarrybank High School, hence the band name), but Paul and George went to a different school (The Liverpool Institute, which in the 90s Paul helped turn into the Liverpool Institute of Performing Arts) and Ringo went to yet another school. Ringo didn't join the band until after they'd left school and spent months in Hamburg though.
    Speaking of Ringo, the quote about him not even being the best drummer in The Beatles is often attributed to John, but it was actually British stand up comedian Jasper Carrot!

  • @oskarsvito
    @oskarsvito 2 года назад +80

    🖕
    Fucking awesome. It's cool to see that we are not just staying still as musicians on top of the shoulders of giants, but we are actually moving forward, making new styles and genres.

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille 2 года назад +1

      Those new genres are getting created because we stand on the shoulder of previous musicians.

    • @oskarsvito
      @oskarsvito 2 года назад

      @@jas_bataille Not my point

  • @thornels
    @thornels Год назад +4

    I've seen Thundercat live 3 times so far, and it's an incredible experience every time. Not only does he have some of the most incredible improvised bass solos I've seen, but his humor and interaction with the crowd inbetween songs make the shows that much more of a lifetime experience.

  • @fromdreamtostream
    @fromdreamtostream 2 года назад +22

    Nicole! I’m a bassist and was similar in my own development. There were lines that I loved and learned before there were bassists I loved and followed. I think Lee put it well, in that you fell in love with the sound of the instrument before any of its players. I’m so glad you felt comfortable sharing that.

  • @brunovillart
    @brunovillart 2 года назад +51

    Whoever edits the channel deserves a lot of credit! Things like adding the pedal effect to the speaker's voice (like the "envelope filter" part) to explain the sound is amazing and many don't even notice.

    • @faustobrusamolino6345
      @faustobrusamolino6345 2 года назад

      There's no sound editing there, it's the guy actually doing it with his voice!

  • @ruukaoz
    @ruukaoz Год назад +4

    i think the silence is what makes something funky. The short silences between each 16th note, or the long silences when you draw focus onto the drums, its there. Every time the bass is silent and comes back, the attack punches you in the chest.

    • @piscesman54
      @piscesman54 11 месяцев назад

      Absolutely. I read somewhere (I forget which bassist said it), but the idea is "give the snare drum room to breath." Meaning that you mute the note right before the snare hit, which makes it all the more explosive, and come back right after it to underscore the kick. Great technique.

  • @ricc_2088
    @ricc_2088 2 года назад +5

    I've only been playing bass for about a year and a few months completely self taught. I'd say the person that turned me onto bass was Krist Novoselic

  • @jochem420
    @jochem420 Год назад +2

    Leland has more bragging rights than anyone, yet he is so humble. seems like a great dude

  • @jonahdewing6919
    @jonahdewing6919 2 года назад +18

    As a music lover/player but not necessarily a trained one, I really love the short little blurbs about some of the musical terminology! I’ve heard/learned quite a few of them from mixing and production, but the short and quick explanations are fantastic refreshers and are greatly appreciated! Well deserved sub!

  • @andressalcedo6663
    @andressalcedo6663 2 года назад +15

    Leland Sklar looks like such a great and humble guy. This is such a cool idea of a channel it’s the first video Ive watch from you guys and It’s so awesome. Greetings from colombia!!

  • @ricksamericana749
    @ricksamericana749 Год назад +1

    I was absolutely gobsmacked to learn Ryan Lerman hadn't seen "The Wrecking Crew" movie by this point. I wished Dead Wax could have kept more of the clip of Tommy Tedesco in the post. The conclusion of that piece is hilarious.

  • @jonise2524
    @jonise2524 Год назад +3

    Don't forget Mr.Taylor ,the bassist from Duran Duran, very underrated bassist, he is awesome

  • @Spicysaucysauce
    @Spicysaucysauce 2 года назад +3

    I saw Thunder Cat play live in Portland yesterday, and I gotta say, he was unbelievable. So jazzy, so jammy, so much fun!!

  • @Ross58
    @Ross58 2 года назад +3

    And we should never forget that Paul was supported by Ringo … it’s drums and Bass … A a child I was a drummer, listening to Ringo, so my sub conscious was fed by Paul on bass… somehow, years later I was playing bass…and never stopped since… Taxman… if 5 % appears to small… boom boom with Paul on bass … incredible ….and thanks for this video …👍🎶

  • @chrisjohns9631
    @chrisjohns9631 11 месяцев назад +1

    So glad Leland mentioned Carol Kaye.

  • @phatkau
    @phatkau 2 года назад +3

    Seeing Lee Sklar grooving to Thundercat honestly just made my day.

  • @dougdavis8986
    @dougdavis8986 2 года назад +3

    None of the Beatles were 30 years old when they were finished.

  • @BassByTheBay
    @BassByTheBay 2 года назад +5

    This channel is an EMBARRASSMENT... of riches... for bassists! 😁
    You had the "best bass lines" video with Nick, then an awesome one with Lee the legend, and now a _second_ one with Lee. So much bass love! 🤯 Thank you!!

  • @hamsandwichson
    @hamsandwichson 2 года назад +5

    I love how you're listening to more of the songs now and extending the guests appearance. 😍

  • @frankmerendino1855
    @frankmerendino1855 2 года назад +5

    Wish they had explored Rain or the bass counter melody Paul laid down for Something. It was melodic genius that truly helped make the song!

  • @BIZARBIES
    @BIZARBIES 2 года назад +4

    It was a Ric bass y'all. I believe he went back to the Hof for Let It Be. Rubber Soul and on was the Ric.

  • @DreamCheaters
    @DreamCheaters 2 года назад +15

    love this so much, very blessed to hear legends taking every detail and diging so deep about the instrument they love. thank you so much for this

  • @marcpuyuelograndas1005
    @marcpuyuelograndas1005 2 года назад +20

    Something, I Want You (She’s So Heavy), Hey Bulldog and Rain are my favorite Macca bass lines… They are astonishing.
    Also Goodnight Tonight and Silly Love Songs are perfect (in his Wings period).

    • @kurniadi9829
      @kurniadi9829 2 года назад +3

      and I also love Dear Prudence, Lucy in the Sky with Diamond, Come Together and many more.

    • @kevinlakeman5043
      @kevinlakeman5043 2 года назад +3

      Those are monster bass cuts; great choices. I'd throw in Come Together and Paperback Writer as well.

  • @davidpost428
    @davidpost428 2 года назад +1

    Funny, he's wearing a Nilsson Schmillson shirt! Learned a lot here ! Thanks !

  • @alext.1459
    @alext.1459 11 месяцев назад +3

    Paul used a fender bassman amp&cab during this period and a rickenbacker 4001 bass, nevertheless his bass playing on this song and all beatles.songs are.completely outstanding. My favourite bass player of.all.times.

  • @rapnsee
    @rapnsee 2 года назад +8

    Love the video! FYI That John Lennon quote about Ringo was made up by British comedian Jasper Carrott in 1983. They all thought he was an excellent drummer!

  • @jasonremy1627
    @jasonremy1627 2 года назад +2

    Bonus Sklar! Awesome!

  • @thebassman2008
    @thebassman2008 2 года назад +3

    This is one my favorite channels on RUclips hands down. I really like the conversations. Keep doing what you’re doing!

  • @phunkybasstard
    @phunkybasstard 2 года назад +7

    Thundercat uses a Moog Moogerfooger MF101 Envelope Filter pedal!

    • @FunkadelicPancho
      @FunkadelicPancho 2 года назад

      He also uses the Pigtronix Envelope Phaser pretty often. Coupled live with the digitech whammy on the harmony setting set to one octave up

  • @druebio851
    @druebio851 2 года назад +3

    I love that this channel is finally getting more and more recognition.

  • @fabiojcostaa
    @fabiojcostaa 2 года назад +2

    Once again, really great episode, thank you so much for this.

  • @krbmsw
    @krbmsw Год назад +2

    If I could give this a thousand likes, I would. This is my favorite episode, to date.

  • @panchozilla1
    @panchozilla1 2 года назад +5

    I LOVE this channel. I think the explaining terms in simple terms really allows everyone to understand music and what makes it better is that it makes the appreciation for the craft deeper.

  • @lizziebirch2871
    @lizziebirch2871 2 года назад +6

    So much yes to loving the basslines and the songs. 💚 - And thank you all for a great episode. The enthusiasm from every single person here is contagious. 😃 Also I like your use of "footnotes".

  • @MetalHeadMarc
    @MetalHeadMarc 2 года назад +2

    It's been said i'm sure but all the little explanation breaks to bring those not familiar with some of the terms are the chefs kiss for this video. Well done!

  • @DuftCloudly
    @DuftCloudly 2 года назад +1

    I don’t know how many times I’ve heard that thundercat song, never noticed there’s no crashes in it at all. Wow.

  • @kristinbrynteson3693
    @kristinbrynteson3693 2 года назад +6

    You all are amazing. Love everything about this channel. I played bass as a kid (need to come back to it). Sting was my favorite. All of his work but mostly early songs from The Police. So good!

  • @robertosullivan1460
    @robertosullivan1460 2 года назад +26

    Ok, that was soooo inspiring and entertaining!!! As a drummer (add dumb drummer joke here) what I’d love is an isolated example of the bass line you guys are reacting to. What did you hear with the Taxman line that makes it orchestral? That’d teach me how a bass guitarist hears, which would be fascinating.
    Simply great job! So impressed and now subscribed.
    Keep it up!
    RKO

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille 2 года назад +1

      Oh you're a drummer? Me too! We both get to hang out with musicians!!

    • @bryanchandler3486
      @bryanchandler3486 2 года назад +1

      Pretty much any at least slightly well-known song with what's considered a fantastic or exceptional instrument or vocal part will have an isolated part on RUclips if you just search "(name of song) isolated (part you want to hear isolated)".

  • @mikeglassburn
    @mikeglassburn 2 года назад

    This is the most amazing and needed thing for me right now. You all are amazing.

  • @ecarteringram
    @ecarteringram 2 года назад +1

    Leland's humility is so refreshing. His bass playing is always solid, but never over the top. Always less is more.

  • @phobson70
    @phobson70 2 года назад +4

    I cannot love this enough! Amazing talent offering forthright reactions and being just people. I found you after I picked up the bass again after a 35 year break and I am a beginner all over again. Your love for the music is infectious.

  • @pavese1379
    @pavese1379 2 года назад +4

    I started on bass exactly like Nicole, there is no bassist who made me want to play it, but certain songs, I didn't care that the bass player for Duran Duran is John Taylor, I just loved the lines and discovered my idols as I went on

  • @polara01
    @polara01 Год назад +1

    This was awesome please make these longer and just make a part one and part two... keep the fun going as long as you can this is awesome I never learned so much and laughed at the same time you guys are freaking great! Peace

  • @beckygrant2258
    @beckygrant2258 3 месяца назад +1

    By the way, The Beatles never went to school together. Paul and George went to the same school but they were a year apart. They rode the bus home together and they found that they both played guitar. Paul met John at a church fair when his band, the Quarrymen were playing. Paul auditioned for John and joined the band. Paul told John about George. George auditioned for John and joined. They met Ringo when they were playing at a club in Hamburg, Germany…when Ringo was with Rory and the Hurricanes. Ringo filled in a couple of times when Beatles drummer, Pete Best was out sick. They knew Ringo was a much better drummer. When they auditioned for George Martin at EMI, he told them they needed a new drummer. They wanted Ringo and offered him the job.

  • @evanlinsey
    @evanlinsey 2 года назад +6

    i love this channel and this video so i say this with love, but IMO it was a lot more enjoyable when everybody had headphones on and we could get clean audio of both the commentary and the music. plus i feel like it forces a close listen in a different way, and it was fun seeing everybody's reactions to that!

  • @scooterwood2034
    @scooterwood2034 2 года назад +4

    Nicole and Lee were too nice to correct Ryan lol watching their faces (and myself hearing the two notes) I knew that they knew 😂

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Год назад

      Oh they corrected him and they had no problem doing so lol. There’s no ego in music if you’re good enough

  • @johnbell891
    @johnbell891 2 года назад

    You guys are all so cool!!! Thanks for putting this online ❤ Go music!!!

  • @wallfishmusic8063
    @wallfishmusic8063 2 года назад

    This just might be my favorite video interview EVER! Thank you all SO MUCH!

  • @sapien82
    @sapien82 2 года назад +7

    new to this channel glad I found it , I love the beatles and thundercat , great episode. would love to see some larry graham or bootsy breakdowns

    • @Orianasama
      @Orianasama 2 года назад +1

      The lack of discussion around Bootsy Collins and Larry Graham was criminal!

  • @AleZayas
    @AleZayas 2 года назад +3

    Loving this channel. Such a particular vibe but so nice. Loved this episode!

  • @dbkinghorn
    @dbkinghorn 2 года назад +2

    wow, that was really a great stream! fun, informative, and heartfelt

  • @crocooks5851
    @crocooks5851 2 года назад +1

    man this channel is so good, every single time i finish a video i'm inspired by all the cool ideas you guys talk about. time to go work on tracks lol.

  • @welikerosafloyd
    @welikerosafloyd 2 года назад +3

    Damn what a luxury to have Lee and Nicole! Great episode

  • @Lucas_S91
    @Lucas_S91 2 года назад +7

    I love that you guys have so many videos about bass!
    Also, I'm with Nicole about not really having a bass player that made me want to play bass. I just wanted to learn songs. It was only later that I kind of started analysing some players and was influenced by them.

  • @charlesmcgehee3227
    @charlesmcgehee3227 Год назад

    Really great conversation. Thanks for doing Taxman. That tune grabbed ahold of me right when Revolver was released.

  • @pshant94
    @pshant94 2 года назад +1

    Never though I’d see a video comparing my favorite song as a child (particular for that groovy bass line) and one of my favorite songs of the last few years. Love that this channel exists for these crossovers to happen