What Happened To Doctor Who's Cybus Cybermen?
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In series 2 of doctor who, with the 10th doctor and rose tyler we were introduced to cybus industries and reintroduced to the cybermen. They cybermen were from a parallel world and controlled by John Lumic. These cybermen were destroyed by the doctor but some survived and travelled across the weakened void, due to the daleks and rained chaos on Torchwood and Doctor Who's main universe. The Doctor sent the cybus cybermen back into the void but some survived. We saw this in the next doctor with the cyberking and cybershades and the cyberwoman in torchwood. These cybermen also appeared in the Pandora opens as part of the alliance and much more. But what if I told you there was more than that and that these cybermen did a lot more.
I love that they came from a parallel universe because it calls back to their first appearance in which they come from a twin planet of Earth with all the same continents and (allegedly) the same people. Mildly sad that Moffat decided they weren't good enough, but I like to think they simply merged with our universe's cybermen, hence the sharing of designs.
Sorry but the Cybusmen are borring.
@@mayotango1317the Cybusmen were the greatest cybermen 💀 classic who cybermen got clowned on by every species and person good bad or ugly… and these new cybermen as just goofy. The Cybusmen were perfect - terrifying but very mortal.
@@bruh949True. But those designs are pretty weird. Too clunky.
It was great just to get the Cybermen back. It didn't bother me that they were ones from a parallel universe. They were still menacing & creepy AF. Okay, I'm weak, they are my favourite villain in Who, I've loved all their incarnations over the years.
I have a theory that The CybusMen actually saved The Prime Whoniverses Cybermen from Extinction (By McCoy's era they were pretty desperate after the destruction of Telos)
The Cybermen and CybusMen eventually merged in Nightmare in Silver and evolved together to become Cyber Warriors and other variants.
The Cybermen in Series 5, "Conversion," and "Assimilation²" were Cyberiad Cybermen, meaning they're both Mondasian and Cybus. It's confusing, but Steven Moffat said that the Cybermen from Series 5 were Mondasian. However, "Assimilation²" and Neil Gaiman changed them to Mondasian and Cybus because Gaiman said that the Mondasian Cybermen met the Cybus Cybermen who survived onboard the CyberKing after "The Next Doctor."
There's also a Cybus Cyberman shell in the Series 7 episode which also has the debut of the new design.
The Cybus-men design is also used in Series 6 Closing Time, Series 7B Nightmare in Silver, Series 10 The Doctor Falls, and as cyberheads in Series 12 Ascension of the Cybermen.
What if there were more than one faction of Cybermen? The idea of creating an immortal and indestructible body isn't a unique vision, as the Mondasian Cybermen came about due to their planet going out of orbit and being unable to sustain life on the surface, but then the Cybermen we saw aboard the evacuation ship seen in "World Enough and Time" came about due to dwindling resources and a need to stay alive. It would be interesting to see what would happen if more than one world created Cybermen, and they went to war.
The cybus cybermen were a perfect example of why the cybermen were an inevitable part of humanity if we continue to obsess over efficiency, that's why I liked them. Moffat and Chibnall just made them another generic alien race
Not even true wtf are you on?
Wtf you on@@chaserseven2886
Unfortunately the introduction of the parallel Cybermen has really confused the narrative as we have no idea if our universe ones joined and adapted with them or vice versa, it's all become very confused and complicated
I love your use of 9’s theme here. It’s my favourite theme of all the Doctors.
I imagined they travelled into our universe, met up with the classic Cybermen and merged their technology creating the Cybermen we saw in Matt Smiths era. Would have been a cool story to see rather than having no explanation.
I'm a Cybermen fan and when The Cybermen returned in Series 2, I thought they looked better than ever and I liked the design of the Cybus Cybermen.
I could never get behind the NuWho catchphrase of the Cybermen. I maintain they should have went with Tomb's "You shall be like us" though I guess they can't shout that ad nauseam when shooting things.
They do still say that too
I always thought they merged with our world cybermen and stopped being something unique
You forgot the eleventh doctor’s chronicles they appear in a conversation camp and pretend to still have emotions and that they are still human
There's a Cybus Cyberman shell in series 7 on the theme park planet.
My favorite modern era design are the Cybermen from Ascension and Timeless Children. Not great episodes but those versions of the cybermen do such a great job updating the classic Invasion design
I feel more prepared to see the Cybermen again.
TLDR theres no body horror and they've lost their uncaring edge.
Danny pink, Yvonne hartman, Lisa from torchwood, so many characters that make the cybermen compelling, simply dont see that any more.
Came close with Bill but then they defeated the whole point of sacrifice/cost by having her just instantly resurrected.
Theres no cost with the modern cybermen.
Great Video ! only question I have is how did the Cybusmen get displaced through time? You mentioned something about Davros in Journeys End but im confused how that ended up with cybusmen in Victorian London (next doctor) and Rome (pandorica opens). Amazing video again tho I was wondering about this the other day and you answered a lot of my questions!
Davros’s efforts in making the reality bomb in Series 4 had further weakened the barriers between universes (hence how Rose, Mickey & Jackie were able to teleport back to their native universe from the parallel “Pete’s World” universe), chances are that some Cybus Cybermen managed to figure out ways of escaping the void during this time (either on their own or by stealing Dalek tech) before the barriers were restored.
And i only recently found out that name"cybus men and I don't like it . Cybermen even in parallel world are cybermen
I thought cybermen refers to an umbrella of cyber augmented humans and "cybusmen" is a specific variant by cybus industry
What happend to the, simple just left 😂
Love this but please put an audio fade in on your voice clips to stop the pops
Other than that you have a sub
According to Neil Gaiman they amalgamated into one Cyber race.
Answer the question
Never liked them. RTD in a nutshell, not understanding the subtleties of how the original cybermen were so scary. Nah, he genuinely thought it would be scarier to just have them loud, stomping, with booming voices. I do very much like RTD as a writer but he needs a co-producer like Steven Moffat to constantly remind him that less is more. These cybermen had none of the eerieness that gets under your skin like the old-school ones did. (And this is coming from someone who DIDNT grow up with old-Who. I grew up with New Who but I can look at it objectively)
why do you call the old ones scarier, same premise no?
@@margesimpson805they are quite different to be honest
@@margesimpson805 They're completely different in how the idea was realised and performed.
@@ismayb754 how?
To be fair though the Moffat iron man type Cybermen are even less scary than the cybus ones. The cybus Cybermen felt threatening
U got it wrong martha jones was never kidnapped it was her cousin Adeola who was taken over by the cybermen
Yes but no. Your right about her cousin but I didn't get it wrong because I never spoke about her cousin. I spoke about the 10th doctor and Martha book where they meet the cybus cybermen. I even put the book on screen which I got it from 💀
david tennant was the last "good" doctor
Dont care now not after the Tenant and RTD fiasco and the whole show fiasco i couldnt care less about this turd of a show now.
Cybermen have always been great villians! They just need stop being puppets of the master! They are definitely the most frighting villians due to them being us in the future!
Honestly their next debut will be the cyber people, because let's be honest either woke rose or the villain from the devils accord will judge them, they will stop to think about it and go "that is correct, we are now known as the cyberpeople, you will be upgraded or deleted"