Regarding the burn in on S95B and A95K, 1st gen QD-OLED uses Hydrogen (Protium) while LG’s EVO WOLEDs use Deuterium which is much more stable, the new 2nd Gen QD-OLED now also has Deuterium which along with the other improvements contributes to the 2x longer life vs the 1st gen.
QD-OLED was simply one whole generation ahead of WOLED and this is why LG is now advancing so fast to keep up with Samsung. Also "2x longer life" is a classic marketing phrase. Even 1st gen QD OLED shines next to most other TVs right now.
LG's just desperate that people don't care about woled as much, they literally took one article that wasnt even complete and decided to run with it. Proclaiming their TV is less prone to burn in and trying to go to Hollywood professionals just shows desperation. Hollywood uses expensive mastering monitors which can do 1000 nits full screen with completely accurate colors, they're not gonna switch to a consumer oled that doesen't reach 300 nits full screen and isn't even color accurate high brightness, it's like how Linus said Lg is overclocking their TVs just to compete especially the brightness on their g3 with heatsink but I won't be surprised if this year too it's A95L > G3 and S95c > C3
I was a first adopter of a very expensive plasma screen TV (for the time), with claims of burn-in. That was in 2006…and I WISH it has burn-in, so I can justify getting a new OLED. My plasma TV refuses to die. (My point, burn-in should not be a major concern…not unless, as he said…you watch Fox News, CNN with their logo blazing in the corner, all day. Very unlikely).
Man Caleb, really like watching your videos/contents. Love the high fidelity resolution and colors you have going on, even when just taping a room you're sitting, the ambient lights and color of the room really bring this nice clean look to it.
But the Sony Oleds with LG panels also had burn-in in that test. It’s not a QD Oled specific issue. The test also didn’t allow for Sonys panel compensation to kick in due to the timing of the on/ off cycles the Rtings chose to use.
Rtings have always been biased. Vinvent and Hdtvtest has always been more thorough with his findings anyway. Rtings won't even rate the A95k higher than G2, they'll never admit Sony had better motion and upscaling and they never will rate a Sony higher than lg, not with A90J, not with A95K
@@shivamarya5225 More so than that, RTINGS are interested in quantifying everything into scores, even when the attribute being described is purely subjective. This leads to misunderstandings and bad comparisons According to ratings, the audio quality on my Arctis gaming headset is comparable with the audio on my $900 Focal headphones. Spoilers, it isn't lol, both have their own use case. But nothing on RTINGS denotes this because of them needing to constantly judge everything 1-10. Not everything is that simple That's an audio comparison, but I've found they do this in many sectors on their website including TVs
To be fair the RTINGs stress tests are nowhere near practical especially with burn in tests which is nothing more than a torture test and doesn’t reflect even the worst of consumers and their viewing habits
But you don't get the point at all - as Caleb said unless all day TV low chance of burn it from either . The POINT is ( yes I shouted ) we were bs'd about QD-OLED gen 1 being so much better in this respect - turns out that was a load of crap - tbf think colour volume and brightness sold it - but still would of garnered some sales - Sony and Panasonic in particular on flagship have heat sinks - I have a Panasonic Plasma - no burn in . Anyway great news Gen 2 etc much better - those with old c7 etc will be failing - so good time to upgarde
Love your content dude! I’ll just say this… as a current Sony A80J owner(77”) and prior owner of a C9, no manufacturer on the market is touching Sony’s image processing. LG punches up the reds just a bit to give the user a bit more saturated and colorful picture which is VERY pleasing to look at, but the image is still soft especially depending on the source. Sony favors a natural and extremely clean, crisp picture with their processing tech. Because of this, the details in the image just POP! Every time I play a game or watch a Dolby Vision movie on my A80J, I’m just glued to the picture because of the clarity in the details. Which are most evident and noticeable on a perfect contrast OLED panel. I gave my in-law the C9 I had(she had a LED lol) and when I see that TV in her place the colors are very nice. But I notice that softness in the image every time… My biggest gripe with my Sony is the lack of full HDMI 2.1 across all ports. But it’s a sacrifice I’ll make for the insane PQ I get!
Hey. Great comment. Have to say I thought the same thing until I got the Panasonic jz2000. I wasn't sure at first spending all the extra money but soon as I turned it on I saw exactly where the money went. Amazing colour and picture that just draws you in. Anyway all the best and let's look forward to more great TVs 👍✌️
I couldn’t agree more. I just returned the LG G2 for the same size 83” A90J. The Sony’s picture is so deep, so real, so 3D it quite frankly makes the LG look terrible in comparison. It’s like you’re watching different content. Once you get used to a Sony OLED there’s no going back. My two year old Sony OLED was better than the G2 by far. And I messed with every picture setting I could with the G2! The A90J looks as good if not better than being there in real life. Love it & shouldn’t have listened to the sales person!
Sony's a80j is garbage 🗑, I had the 77 inch sony a80j,I have seen better contrast ratio on led and mini led tvs, sony destroy a80j contrast because it's not master series tv black looks Gray, and tv can not process any dark scenes 😉 if no one believes me go check Sony's specs a80j have (xr contrast)but a90j have (xr contrast pro)shame on you sony 😉👎
Can someone tell me what’s better between the LG UN7300 and the UQ9000? Both are 65”, about to get one of them mostly for games. Please and thank you 🙏🏻
Still rocking with the original G1 from 2021 77” at a huge discount(50% off). No burn in… but I don’t watch cable tv. Still blows me away every time I sit down and watch Dolby vision content. Maybe a G3 as a update to the bedroom?
PLEASE, PLEASE. PLEASE, include text quality on your upcoming reviews this season. With so many people using "TVs" as their monitor, it would be great to see text quality included in your list of items you review. Thanks again for your show.
We need to get the fight started. I wasn't fortunate enough to get one a first gen QD oled due to my TV dying 6 months before. So I ended up with a QN90A and now I'm ready for a 77 inch Oled of SOME sort. I didn't want FOMO from the S95C because it was first to market. So now I'm waiting impatiently lol.
I secured an 65” LG C2 back in December for $1300 flat. A dude was having to get rid of his unopened TV to get quick cash for closing on a house. The tech gods has been good to me. The PS5 is looking magical.
I Appreciate your videos man, I have been on the fence as to which and what type of TV to buy after not having kept up with new tech the last few years, and while I still do not have my own answer these videos have been very great.
My 4k is a Vizio 65" P series from 2016 and has served me well especially for gaming. However, I think I'm finally ready to upgrade and these OLED panels have come a long way. I'm eyeing the 65" or 77" inch LG G3 this year. I've heard nothing but good things.
I will hold off buying another Sony TV for awhile as they completely misled everyone about the X900H and although it was a overall very good looking tv, I should have just spent the extra $200-300 and got a LG OLED. Will likely be going with the 77” G3 when it comes out for the MLA
I don’t think Sony misled you you just decided to go with that brand or that model I would never run to LG and lead the best TV maker Sony in the business just because this RUclips video says LG is the brightest TV this year I don’t chase brightness, I Chase, the best LG is not the best
EXCELLENT - EXCELLENT REVIEW. Your review was clear and concise....just the facts as we know them to be for the 2023 LG G3. Appreciate your honest reviews as always...and look forward to hear more about the 2023 Samsung & Sony product reviews as they come out.
Currently in the market to replace an old 58” plasma, so in research mode. Wondering if the C3 without the MLA tech disappoint over time? G3 vs the 2nd gen QD oled?looking forward to the new full reviews.
I think this year will require quite nuanced evaluation, like color accuracy, peak brightness, and latency when BFI and/or VRR and/or 120hz is engaged. The competition is fierce, with different displays taking different approaches, which is great to see.
Can someone tell me what’s better between the LG UN7300 and the UQ9000? Both are 65”, about to get one of them mostly for games. Please and thank you 🙏🏻
All of LGs OLEDs have a white subpixel, and up until now has been relatively dim. MLA is the reason why their new G3 panels are outperforming last gen QD OLED in brightness. We'll see if it can outperform QD OLED brighter blue subpixels giving a brighter picture although I'm assuming LG will slightly take the win.
Great video Caleb! I think the G3 has a chance at being the choice TV for most if they can get relatively close to the performance of the QD-OLED people might just end up going with them over a lot of the reasons you have listed in this video, as well as knowing there won't be as many headaches you have to deal with in regards to firmware updates it'll be a fun battle overall to watch for!
I think so too. In my situation of using the TV as a PC monitor. That burn in factor matters even more. So a G3 is far more viable IMO than taking a risk on the QDOLED. Even though they updated in Gen2 panels to Deuterium. That Rtings test is damaging to say the least. It's only 2 months of accelerated testing. That is not even 6 months real world use. G3 has that warranty too, or at least I hope they still do the 5 year one. That is a big selling point as well. QDOLED might be unbeatable for color volume/luminance whatever it's called, lol. But it's not like LG OLED all of a sudden became ugly and useless. It's still OLED. MLA is free brightness as well without affecting the colors. So 10% less good in colors, I'd live with that 10x more than risking burn in happening faster with QDOLED. Can't wait to see all reviews for all TVs trickling in this season. G3 and QN95C is my shortlist right now.
My concerns about burn in aren't from watching news channels all day, but rather from watching TV shows and movies with subtitles turned on. I hardly watch news channels, but I do watch a lot of TV and movies and use subtitles for everything since I'm hard of hearing. I really don't want to spend a lot of money for a TV that I will have to replace because of burn in due to subtitles being used a lot.
If you're watching subtitles with a streaming service like Netflix, make sure you set your subtitles to be black with white outlines instead of white with black outlines as default. That will greatly reduce the risk of burn-in from subtitles.
@@MistyKathrine How would that help. It's just and inverse of the black and the white. Making them less bright and more transparent would be a better option and grey and smaller.
@@loki76 Because the individual pixels turn off when black in showed which greatly reduces the wear on those pixels, reducing the risk of image retention.
I would wait a few years with Qd-Oled, since they seem to burn in quite quickly. I'm planning to buy a 65 inch C2 Oled when the sales start this spring/summer.
@@MistyKathrine But the white outline is "on" and high intensity, you'd just get burn in with those instead. The goal is to reduce it overall, such as dimmer subtitles, smaller foot print, more transparent etc.
LG needs to sort out the severe dark grey banding and white pink tinting before trashing anybody else. Their MLA at least sorts out the off axis tinting and brightness though. QD-OLED mark 2 will still outperform the G3, so maybe that's why they are so worried?
... here in Europe, we'll not only be able to buy a LG G3, or Samy S95C or Sony A95L ... but also a Panasonic MZ2000, that has the new LG Display MLA panel too, and that was measured, after calibration by Vincent Teoh at more than 1500 nits in Panasonic headquarters in Osaka, and that was a prototype, not already fitted with the new Mediatek Pentonic 1000 SoC ... I know that Panasonic TVs are no longer available in the USA and Canada and Australia ...
I was concerned with burn-in for years when I had a plasma TV so I'm a little reluctant to go with an OLED screen yet. The nice thing about my current LCD TV with LED backlight is that I can blast it at full brightness and pause it for as long as I want with no burn-in concerns. I don't usually do that, but I could!
I have an LG OLED B6 it had burn in the first few months. I still get new burn in marks to this day. It’s going to be a long time before I start trusting oled after what happened to me.
I turned off the screensaver on my LED/LCD TV (take THAT old plasma TV!). I only run the screensaver on my AppleTV box because one of the choices is aerial footages of various places. They occasionally add new stuff to keep it fresh.
Surely the main reason LGs are lasting better is it's the deuterium oled compound - also in this year's Samsung's. Also when they do burn in, it should look less prevalent on qdoled.
@@BBRBGR I hear ya. If it makes you feel any better, QD-OLED is also not yet available in that size, so this is the best we've got for now. That's why I'm especially curious if the 83" G3 will offer any measurable improvement over the G2. It could be an opportunity to get G3 performance at a (discounted) G2 price. I just got the 83" G2 and love it. Honestly, forget MLA, I wish I could afford the 97" lol
@@daveqsang Not sure what you mean by 6" but if you're talking about larger size versus better picture (MLA), in my opinion size is the more important differentiating factor, assuming you are going for the most immersive experience.
One of the reasons I have a QLED, actually a Neo QLED is because I tend to watch quite a good deal of Twitch and old WWE shows. I suppose I should stay away from an OLED for reasons like that.
Finally going tv shopping and was wondering what you recommend for us?? We use a tv for 2 reasons, streaming and Xbox series x gaming!!! Would like to hear your best pics. We’ve had our eyes on Sony and LG but would like to hear what the expert has to say. Thank you again for all the great videos.
Exciting video. Finalized my choice to get a G1 based on your input. Still loving this tv! Question: where u find the fireplace screen saver on the tv in the background?? Looks cool!
I honestly love your reviews so much good information best channel on RUclips my first expensive TV is an LG CX55 and I love it so far I have no issues looks Fantastic in every aspect👍👁
For me Samsung is no longer in the race - later nerfing their TVs in firmware updates (after release and reviews of course) to increase reliability to reduce replacements, make their latest models look better etc. It reminds me of the scummy tactics of some triple-A game devs later adding predatory monetization or other shady stuff after release and good reviews are out. Because of that i literally will no longer touch a Samsung even if they were the exact same performance but half the price.
@@whiskizyo2067 I will definitely keep that in mind. I'm leaning toward Sony/LG at the moment. Yes, Sammy has been caught cheating, throttling their phones many times in the past plus gods what junkware/bloatware they always include in their hardware.
Caleb, I don't think any of us in the market for a 2023 OLED can truly know until there's an independent, both objective AND subjective, side by side by side comparison of all 3.
Honestly, the top 3 pics are so amazing each would look great in your home! It’s more about operating system for me, buying a TV for 7-10 years I dont even worry about a few hundred dollar difference…
A95L has already won, even A95K would have won against G3 in their own comparison had they not carefully chosen which content to show on it so it's low saturated color brightness won't be visible
@@shivamarya5225 pure speculation and disservice to Caleb - G3 77" beats A95K 65" easy - given wall space what you you choose if offered freely. I like Panasonic you like Sony - but next year when I'm buying I want to see who does a good enough 83" for good price for me - If may be Samsung - but would rather Sony - may get a Panny 77" if really good - We just need to wait for indepth reviews
@@nimblegoat disservice to Caleb? This video is partly sponsored by lg and he's the one putting that misleading thumbnail and video description when he didn't even have any testing done or looked at the TVs in a non biased setting, he's not even looked at a G3 outside of Lg's own event, G3 even beating 2022 tvs is pure speculation at this point and Caleb himself doesent even respect his own opinions, in the Sony video he says A95L is the tv to beat this year without even seeing other TVs, that was pure speculation And i don't get why Caleb doesen't have a mastering monitor himself to actually compare if any tv is pushing highlights or dimming shadow detail on its own instead of preserving creators intent. Clearly that should be a priority for doing tv reviews now that manufacturers are actively trying to get into Hollywood studios. He doesent even break his own news, Vincent did the investigative journalism of finding out about the hdmi 2.1 thing and Caleb just took that info made his video, at least he credited Vincent this time. In the past he didn't even credit Vincent for finding the prices of many TVs before the official release date Last year too he have best tv to A95k cause he thinks it'll get more views but didn't even say why it's better than s95b, he should've just linked to Vincent's video explaining why
@@shivamarya5225 In Vincents shootout , the Panasonic was a close second - I like the indepth of Vincents reviews - Calebs are fine - he has stats for nerds/geeks or whatever he calls it . Caleb gives sage advice for man in the street . Let's get real this event was not for reviewing n detail - Vincent himself takes his time - this was a show case for LG - Caleb gave his opinion that at face value the G3 looked better than the A90K - Most of the Samsung 77" OD-OLED "reviews' out there are just mainly impressions - also Caleb considers price Vincent leaves that up to us - as I said the shootout between LG 77" MLA are a Sony 77" OD-OLED is worth waiting for - I'm also interested for the 65 Panasonic ( shame not MLA 77" ) - Really as a consumer I hope the G3 s the good , same for gen 2 OD-OLED - Plus saying the Sony is the best last year - is subjective - Samsung was best value , LG best gaming , Panasonic best movies - Sony was rated high in many categories . Some people like Samsungs take on image . Anyway I commented as it was a disservice for no real reason for you to justify - have you seen the G3 ?? - you are basically saying Caleb is a sell out or gullible - at minimum not to be trusted - all because you think the a90k is better than the new G3 - just because - hey you may be right Caleb says otherwise - no point impinging someone - LG probably did set up the showing in those modes - out of the box - that's a lot of reviewers to annoy. Yeah shame about the Pentomic 1000 - hopefully still allows better processing , better dark control , snappier etc . - Caleb's favorite TV last year think was a Sony a X95K 85" from memory - he also prefers Sonys natural look to Samsungs QD-OLED last year . But many have commented LG and Samsung have stepped up this year for processing -Caleb said the G3 was better than G2 - so yeah if you have the money buy a Sony A90L 77"- get that receiver if you need more 48Gbps HDMI channels - but I think those who buy the G3 77" will be just as happy or C3 or Samsung or Panasonic - i still have a plasma - and I'm still really happy with it - even though I know these TVs blow it out of the water
I work as a sales responsible for AV at a electronics retailer in Denmark, and i walk among these televisions almost everyday, and has done the same thing the past three years on former TV models. Since the televisions on display in the store is constantly on and showing content these panels endure a lot of stress, especially the OLEDs. All of the WOLED screens on display is showing signs of permanent image retention after a year on display. (A80K, 707, 807 and two C2s) the S95B and A95K on the other hand is not showing any signs of burn in or IR. All of the TVs are in their standard preset and the QD OLEDs are definitely brighter in this preset as well. Note: Every panel setting such as pixel shift is turned ON and compensations cycles are run often. I do not have the G2 on display so i can not say what kind of impact the heatsink has on that panel. I think it's weird that Rtings findings are the complete opposite of my own. WOLEDs has always burned in when on display, C1, CX and A80J was basically ready to be thrown in the trash after their job was done. Maybe the QD OLEDs are more susceptible to burn in on test patterns, rather than real world content? Great video as always Caleb.
Got a free Niu Kqi2 scooter for review and was suprised how awesome it was , I bought some shares in the company. Love that Halo light btw.Also LG for life ,been a fan since there old Goldstar days.
You should take a look at latest Classy Tech video about the new way to measure brightness using the new scenes which are closer to movies brightness than typical 10% window, QD-OLED really can keep the brightness much higher than LG oleds. We don't know for sure how MLA will behave until they are tested with these tests, but it doesn't seem too good from his analysis.
Sorry, I had to chuckle at the bicyclist (no names please) cruising RIGHT THROUGH A STOP SIGN during the promotional intermission. Wheeled vehicles (even bikes) in most states have to obey posted traffic controls. OTHERWISE ... such a good video. Thanks, Caleb. :)
New owner of 77" C2 and I honestly can't see how the picture can get any better. It's really remarkable. Interested to see if LG's forthcoming HDR Film Maker mode will come to the C2 in a firmware update.
@@alyssacrypto previous tv was 65” Panasonic plasma Their last generation plasma ZT60 model that had the reference Master Panels. At the time, the best tv on the market.
@@andreiga76 only when the bright part is white on content lg specifically chose to show and comapre with 2022 TVs, we'll see how bright it is compared to actual 2023 models in some time
Great video Caleb. When you get a G3. In my CES comment I want to hear how WOW Orchestra needs an LG Sound bar. How is it that I have a Vizio M-Series Soundbar that supports DTS:X. However LG says it works with an LG Sound bar. I doubt very seriously it can only work with an LG Sound bar. Like how would the HDMI audio signals know what device it is connected too? When you do your TV test I hope you will spend time in your review to talk about the audio feature. I would love to use an LG G3 TV speakers with a Sound bar at the same time while connected with a HDMI cable.
Shoutout to Rtings! We don't know if we can trust QD Oleds won't burn in early yet so s95c and s90c testing by them will be invaluable. Numbers and Data! Where were the nit numbers?
I'm buying a new 77" TV this year. As to whether it's a G3, QD OLEd or even a Samsung Qn Mini will depend how they look next to each other as well as informed reviews. Comparing this year's G3 against last year's QD OLEDS doesn't help me much. I'm excited in that I believe this year's TV will be the most advanced and best looking TV's out so far and represent a significant improvement in picture.
It would have been great to have known that the new Sony A95 will use Deuterium, which will contribute to a longer life and possibly less chance of image retention, before I bought my A95K in DECEMBER, only to find out it will likely be OBLITERATED just a few months later by the new 2023 TVs. Not sure why, but I find the word "obliterate" mildly hyperbolic. Other than that, I love your content, and I can't wait for your hands on reviews of the G3, the S95C and the A95L. I find your reviews so helpful!
How much of what was discussed here will or won't apply to the C3 OLED? That's always been their best value and most popular OLED and the G-series was just a small improvement, usually just in build quality and feature set, but with almost the same picture.
Yeah I have a lg g2 and is substantially brighter then a C2 because of the heatsink. They also mount completely different to the wall. They look amazing as the mount goes into a recess in the tv giving that supper clean look.
I do watch a lot of financial news channels that have the ticker tape running at the bottom of the screen so I am glad you mentioned that even with QD-OLED I will still get burn in. I guess I have to go down to Mini-LED TV instead.
Out of LG's 2023 line up only the G3 incorporates MLA. So for interested buyers who cannot wall mount a TV why is LG not offering an official stand mount? I appreciate third party stands could be utilised but would retailers, such as here in the UK, who offer a delivery and installation service entertain using a stand they were not familiar with? Alternatively, why not incorporate MLA in the C3 which can be stand mounted?
I agree, the C3 seems pointless without this upgraded MLA tech, making the G3 the obvious choice. Probably the 2024 C4 will gain the brightness feature.
I have two B7 55" and 65", two GX 55" and 65" and one G2 83" - so far there is no burn-in on any of them. We love the deep blacks and image quality, but also love the consistency in WebOS. It is by far the best TVos i've used on a TV, although we use an Apple TV4K on every TV, so that is only used when screwing around with settings and updating FW. Looking forward to seeing the G3s.
My C8 has burn in but it took a couple years. Not a big deal as the spots were from 2 games I played ALOT. Next time ill buy 2, one for Movies and one for Gaming.
Don't see the point of super high brightness when the whole screen dims to a tenth of it if the whole screen is bright. APL on OLED is making the bright highlight useless to me. I have to lower the contrast to a certain point so I don't notice the dimming.
Burn-in is the one of the reasons I haven't bought an OLED yet, the second being the price of one that would address that issue in any meaningful way. Static elements are so omnipresent, that I'll forget that I'm watching shows/playing games with those elements until I see their ghosts while I'm watching/playing something else. Can't wait for the next quantum leap in TV tech.
I am interested in the best bang for my buck 77” OLED. Anxious to see Samsung S90C and C3 pricing. Both TVs in my opinion will be close enough to their more expensive siblings. This might be optimistic but hoping for sub 2k on one or both of them. Might even consider C2 as that is a wonderful TV as well but waiting these new ones to see how it competes.
I expect the QD-OLEDs will be a lot more expensive than the G3. I’m looking to upgrade this year, and that price difference might be the biggest factor
@@MrMoneymedia If you're gonna be buying a top of the line TV like the G3, I doubt another $500 difference for a 65" TV is going to make or break your choice
Hey does anyone know what that flame screensaver is called? As I own the (2020) CX and have had no issues with burn-in thus far the G3 looks amazing!!!
QUESTION: How about Stuttering? It is truly terrible the way those incredibly expensive OLED TV sets of 2022 have that "Stuttering" with the Blu-ray movies running at 24 frames per second. Has the performance been improved to reduce stuttering in 2023?
My guess is that to the average consumer, the top three will be mostly equal on pic quality in the store. Then you factor in the recommendation of the salesperson, which is hard to account for. For me, since pic quality will be great in any case, it will come down to ancillary stuff like UX, remote, and good ol’ brand loyalty. I’m considering them all, but leaning G3 for those reasons.
@@MistyKathrine For sure! But since the G3 and S95C pricing is the same (at least in the sizes that have been announced), and the Sony is usually more expensive (but also hasn't been announced), I can't really factor that in at this stage. FWIW, I don't think I'd pay even more for the Sony since they'll all be really close.
With Samsungs constant updates ruining the S95B last year. & Sonys new QD OLED being $6000 this year. I’m really leaning towards a 77 LG G3 this year. I just hate that it doesn’t come with a stand. I know the gallery series is suppose to be wall mounted, but not everyone wants to mount their TV. They should at least offer customers a stand that doesn’t have to be purchased separately for $200+
I really like your reviews and I am in a situation where I can buy a LG G2 (2022) or a LG C3 (2023) for the same price, what would you do? I am only interested in image quality for movies and shows content.
My issue with the LG G3 ….. I want the MLA tech but cannot wall mount where I am putting this tv … I understand that it comes with a wall mount but how do they expect me to preorder the TV when they can’t even tell me when the stand will be available for sale .. I have reached out to LG on Twitter and they were just like .. maybe try the g2 stand or sorry we don’t know … wouldn’t it be smart if they aren’t going to ship a stand with it to at least have one available for purchase for the people that can’t wall mount … I feel like apple would never handle a pre order like this where nobody you call or talk to from the company can give you any answers because they don’t know … other than that tv looks awesome I’ll be happy to hand the money over once the stand is released
out of box is important, 99.9% of purchasers aren't going to have the tv calibrated, and the vast majority will pick a mode day one and that will be it.
Would absolutely love a 65inch 5 way showdown between: Sony A95L Samsung S95C LG G3 Panasonic MZ2000 Philips OLED908 5 way battle done by 3rd party with no affiliation to any of the manufacturers or particular distributor of any of the brand. To do blind testing & use 10 judges for the eye test independently. I know Philips does something like this....but given that it's done by themselves...i don't believe it's 100% fair and transparent.
Big Fan from South Africa here. Thanks Caleb. Great content
I'm digging these early previews. Can't wait for the full reviews!!
Regarding the burn in on S95B and A95K, 1st gen QD-OLED uses Hydrogen (Protium) while LG’s EVO WOLEDs use Deuterium which is much more stable, the new 2nd Gen QD-OLED now also has Deuterium which along with the other improvements contributes to the 2x longer life vs the 1st gen.
Deuterium is one of the isotopes of Hydrogen...
QD-OLED was simply one whole generation ahead of WOLED and this is why LG is now advancing so fast to keep up with Samsung. Also "2x longer life" is a classic marketing phrase. Even 1st gen QD OLED shines next to most other TVs right now.
Thank you
LG's just desperate that people don't care about woled as much, they literally took one article that wasnt even complete and decided to run with it.
Proclaiming their TV is less prone to burn in and trying to go to Hollywood professionals just shows desperation. Hollywood uses expensive mastering monitors which can do 1000 nits full screen with completely accurate colors, they're not gonna switch to a consumer oled that doesen't reach 300 nits full screen and isn't even color accurate high brightness, it's like how Linus said Lg is overclocking their TVs just to compete especially the brightness on their g3 with heatsink but I won't be surprised if this year too it's A95L > G3 and S95c > C3
I was a first adopter of a very expensive plasma screen TV (for the time), with claims of burn-in. That was in 2006…and I WISH it has burn-in, so I can justify getting a new OLED. My plasma TV refuses to die. (My point, burn-in should not be a major concern…not unless, as he said…you watch Fox News, CNN with their logo blazing in the corner, all day. Very unlikely).
LG G3 was one of my first smart phones lol
Ur broke sorry brother but samung g3 tv is rich but phone n0000000000000000000!😊😊😊
@@tahakhan5167 what an unnecessary, odd and objectively incorrect comment. The internet always manages to surprise me somehow.
@@tahakhan5167 shut up u 5 year old
Same I got the LG Neon phone.
@@bhavyajain2427 yoh u might be 5 yrs old im 24 yrs old so bro sush.
Man Caleb, really like watching your videos/contents. Love the high fidelity resolution and colors you have going on, even when just taping a room you're sitting, the ambient lights and color of the room really bring this nice clean look to it.
But the Sony Oleds with LG panels also had burn-in in that test. It’s not a QD Oled specific issue. The test also didn’t allow for Sonys panel compensation to kick in due to the timing of the on/ off cycles the Rtings chose to use.
Rtings have always been biased. Vinvent and Hdtvtest has always been more thorough with his findings anyway. Rtings won't even rate the A95k higher than G2, they'll never admit Sony had better motion and upscaling and they never will rate a Sony higher than lg, not with A90J, not with A95K
@@shivamarya5225 More so than that, RTINGS are interested in quantifying everything into scores, even when the attribute being described is purely subjective. This leads to misunderstandings and bad comparisons
According to ratings, the audio quality on my Arctis gaming headset is comparable with the audio on my $900 Focal headphones. Spoilers, it isn't lol, both have their own use case. But nothing on RTINGS denotes this because of them needing to constantly judge everything 1-10. Not everything is that simple
That's an audio comparison, but I've found they do this in many sectors on their website including TVs
😂 👏
To be fair the RTINGs stress tests are nowhere near practical especially with burn in tests which is nothing more than a torture test and doesn’t reflect even the worst of consumers and their viewing habits
But you don't get the point at all - as Caleb said unless all day TV low chance of burn it from either . The POINT is ( yes I shouted ) we were bs'd about QD-OLED gen 1 being so much better in this respect - turns out that was a load of crap - tbf think colour volume and brightness sold it - but still would of garnered some sales - Sony and Panasonic in particular on flagship have heat sinks - I have a Panasonic Plasma - no burn in . Anyway great news Gen 2 etc much better - those with old c7 etc will be failing - so good time to upgarde
Love your content dude!
I’ll just say this… as a current Sony A80J owner(77”) and prior owner of a C9, no manufacturer on the market is touching Sony’s image processing.
LG punches up the reds just a bit to give the user a bit more saturated and colorful picture which is VERY pleasing to look at, but the image is still soft especially depending on the source.
Sony favors a natural and extremely clean, crisp picture with their processing tech. Because of this, the details in the image just POP!
Every time I play a game or watch a Dolby Vision movie on my A80J, I’m just glued to the picture because of the clarity in the details. Which are most evident and noticeable on a perfect contrast OLED panel.
I gave my in-law the C9 I had(she had a LED lol) and when I see that TV in her place the colors are very nice. But I notice that softness in the image every time…
My biggest gripe with my Sony is the lack of full HDMI 2.1 across all ports. But it’s a sacrifice I’ll make for the insane PQ I get!
Hey. Great comment. Have to say I thought the same thing until I got the Panasonic jz2000. I wasn't sure at first spending all the extra money but soon as I turned it on I saw exactly where the money went. Amazing colour and picture that just draws you in. Anyway all the best and let's look forward to more great TVs 👍✌️
I couldn’t agree more. I just returned the LG G2 for the same size 83” A90J. The Sony’s picture is so deep, so real, so 3D it quite frankly makes the LG look terrible in comparison. It’s like you’re watching different content. Once you get used to a Sony OLED there’s no going back. My two year old Sony OLED was better than the G2 by far. And I messed with every picture setting I could with the G2! The A90J looks as good if not better than being there in real life. Love it & shouldn’t have listened to the sales person!
Sony's a80j is garbage 🗑, I had the 77 inch sony a80j,I have seen better contrast ratio on led and mini led tvs, sony destroy a80j contrast because it's not master series tv black looks Gray, and tv can not process any dark scenes 😉 if no one believes me go check Sony's specs a80j have (xr contrast)but a90j have (xr contrast pro)shame on you sony 😉👎
@@robertdawood9920 get your eyes checked, bud…
Can someone tell me what’s better between the LG UN7300 and the UQ9000? Both are 65”, about to get one of them mostly for games. Please and thank you 🙏🏻
Still rocking with the original G1 from 2021 77” at a huge discount(50% off). No burn in… but I don’t watch cable tv. Still blows me away every time I sit down and watch Dolby vision content. Maybe a G3 as a update to the bedroom?
PLEASE, PLEASE. PLEASE, include text quality on your upcoming reviews this season. With so many people using "TVs" as their monitor, it would be great to see text quality included in your list of items you review. Thanks again for your show.
The cage match between the G3, S95C, and A95L can’t happen soon enough. Those comparisons are going to sway a ton of purchasing decisions this year.
We need to get the fight started. I wasn't fortunate enough to get one a first gen QD oled due to my TV dying 6 months before. So I ended up with a QN90A and now I'm ready for a 77 inch Oled of SOME sort. I didn't want FOMO from the S95C because it was first to market. So now I'm waiting impatiently lol.
Right there with you lol
no need lol we already know who will win the sales championship s.......g.
@@RedfalconX get the 2023 highly upgraded Sony X95L Mini LED or the G3
Mine is only between two … g3 and a95l can’t go without my Dolby vision lol .. but also serious
I secured an 65” LG C2 back in December for $1300 flat. A dude was having to get rid of his unopened TV to get quick cash for closing on a house. The tech gods has been good to me. The PS5 is looking magical.
I Appreciate your videos man, I have been on the fence as to which and what type of TV to buy after not having kept up with new tech the last few years, and while I still do not have my own answer these videos have been very great.
Love these more in-depth videos! Keep them coming!
I used LG for business back in 2013. Bought a few thousand. Only 10 had to be returned for manufacturer issues. They have fantastic quality control
I got the C2 last year and I’m very pleased, now I’m looking at adding the G3 this year.
My 4k is a Vizio 65" P series from 2016 and has served me well especially for gaming. However, I think I'm finally ready to upgrade and these OLED panels have come a long way. I'm eyeing the 65" or 77" inch LG G3 this year. I've heard nothing but good things.
Same I don’t know if I should get the g2 77 inch now or wait for the g3 the lg is 5k$ how much will the g3 cost ?
only LG OLED TV and nothing else
@@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋ yes so the g2 or g3
I’m thinking of upgrading my 65” CX (2020) to a G3 playing PS5 is awesome but too see this 500-1k nit brightness is damn ….
Go with Sony or Panasonic if you want the best picture quality possible. ;D
I will hold off buying another Sony TV for awhile as they completely misled everyone about the X900H and although it was a overall very good looking tv, I should have just spent the extra $200-300 and got a LG OLED. Will likely be going with the 77” G3 when it comes out for the MLA
I don’t think Sony misled you you just decided to go with that brand or that model
I would never run to LG and lead the best TV maker Sony in the business just because this RUclips video says LG is the brightest TV this year I don’t chase brightness, I Chase, the best LG is not the best
EXCELLENT - EXCELLENT REVIEW. Your review was clear and concise....just the facts as we know them to be for the 2023 LG G3. Appreciate your honest reviews as always...and look forward to hear more about the 2023 Samsung & Sony product reviews as they come out.
Caleb what is that multicolor fire screensaver you have running? Love it, want to use it! Great content, as always.
Currently in the market to replace an old 58” plasma, so in research mode. Wondering if the C3 without the MLA tech disappoint over time? G3 vs the 2nd gen QD oled?looking forward to the new full reviews.
Find out if the c3 has the heatsink from 2021 g1 and 2022 g2
@@nBasterd The C3 does not have a heatsink and neither did the G1; only the G2 and now G3.
Videos like this are the reason I'm subscribed
Great video, since you asked I enjoy this type of content.
I think this year will require quite nuanced evaluation, like color accuracy, peak brightness, and latency when BFI and/or VRR and/or 120hz is engaged. The competition is fierce, with different displays taking different approaches, which is great to see.
Wdym require?
Can someone tell me what’s better between the LG UN7300 and the UQ9000? Both are 65”, about to get one of them mostly for games. Please and thank you 🙏🏻
Does anyone know what is the video with the flames running on the screen behind Caleb? Thanks
All of LGs OLEDs have a white subpixel, and up until now has been relatively dim. MLA is the reason why their new G3 panels are outperforming last gen QD OLED in brightness. We'll see if it can outperform QD OLED brighter blue subpixels giving a brighter picture although I'm assuming LG will slightly take the win.
My C1 still looks great. I don't really see a reason to upgrade for a while
Great video Caleb! I think the G3 has a chance at being the choice TV for most if they can get relatively close to the performance of the QD-OLED people might just end up going with them over a lot of the reasons you have listed in this video, as well as knowing there won't be as many headaches you have to deal with in regards to firmware updates it'll be a fun battle overall to watch for!
I think so too. In my situation of using the TV as a PC monitor. That burn in factor matters even more. So a G3 is far more viable IMO than taking a risk on the QDOLED. Even though they updated in Gen2 panels to Deuterium. That Rtings test is damaging to say the least. It's only 2 months of accelerated testing. That is not even 6 months real world use.
G3 has that warranty too, or at least I hope they still do the 5 year one. That is a big selling point as well.
QDOLED might be unbeatable for color volume/luminance whatever it's called, lol. But it's not like LG OLED all of a sudden became ugly and useless. It's still OLED. MLA is free brightness as well without affecting the colors. So 10% less good in colors, I'd live with that 10x more than risking burn in happening faster with QDOLED.
Can't wait to see all reviews for all TVs trickling in this season. G3 and QN95C is my shortlist right now.
My concerns about burn in aren't from watching news channels all day, but rather from watching TV shows and movies with subtitles turned on. I hardly watch news channels, but I do watch a lot of TV and movies and use subtitles for everything since I'm hard of hearing.
I really don't want to spend a lot of money for a TV that I will have to replace because of burn in due to subtitles being used a lot.
If you're watching subtitles with a streaming service like Netflix, make sure you set your subtitles to be black with white outlines instead of white with black outlines as default. That will greatly reduce the risk of burn-in from subtitles.
@@MistyKathrine How would that help. It's just and inverse of the black and the white. Making them less bright and more transparent would be a better option and grey and smaller.
@@loki76 Because the individual pixels turn off when black in showed which greatly reduces the wear on those pixels, reducing the risk of image retention.
I would wait a few years with Qd-Oled, since they seem to burn in quite quickly. I'm planning to buy a 65 inch C2 Oled when the sales start this spring/summer.
@@MistyKathrine But the white outline is "on" and high intensity, you'd just get burn in with those instead.
The goal is to reduce it overall, such as dimmer subtitles, smaller foot print, more transparent etc.
LG needs to sort out the severe dark grey banding and white pink tinting before trashing anybody else. Their MLA at least sorts out the off axis tinting and brightness though. QD-OLED mark 2 will still outperform the G3, so maybe that's why they are so worried?
How do you adjust the 2-point white balance with the naked eye? Im interested in trying it on a LG C1.
Thank you, Caleb! 2023 is going to be another great year for AV/TV enthusiasts!
thanks for that great review Caleb, my next TV might be an LG.
Did the autodimming issue improve?
... here in Europe, we'll not only be able to buy a LG G3, or Samy S95C or Sony A95L ... but also a Panasonic MZ2000, that has the new LG Display MLA panel too, and that was measured, after calibration by Vincent Teoh at more than 1500 nits in Panasonic headquarters in Osaka, and that was a prototype, not already fitted with the new Mediatek Pentonic 1000 SoC ...
I know that Panasonic TVs are no longer available in the USA and Canada and Australia ...
Philips has MLA too. 908
I was concerned with burn-in for years when I had a plasma TV so I'm a little reluctant to go with an OLED screen yet. The nice thing about my current LCD TV with LED backlight is that I can blast it at full brightness and pause it for as long as I want with no burn-in concerns. I don't usually do that, but I could!
Lg oleds just go to screensaver after it’s paused for a bit
@@yogichopra6606 every smart tv does that, even lcd models
I have an LG OLED B6 it had burn in the first few months. I still get new burn in marks to this day. It’s going to be a long time before I start trusting oled after what happened to me.
I turned off the screensaver on my LED/LCD TV (take THAT old plasma TV!). I only run the screensaver on my AppleTV box because one of the choices is aerial footages of various places. They occasionally add new stuff to keep it fresh.
What screen saver is that in the background? I like it
I really appreciate this review. It helps make sense of the TV marketplace.
Surely the main reason LGs are lasting better is it's the deuterium oled compound - also in this year's Samsung's.
Also when they do burn in, it should look less prevalent on qdoled.
I wish LG was offering their MLA tech in the 83” model. Curious to see what differences there are, if any, between the 83” G3 and G2.
I'm buying a TV for a dedicated media room and 83" is what I'm after. I'm really disappointed the MLA tech isn't offered in that size.
I'm also interested in 83", and would love an opinion on weighing the value of MLA vs. 6"
@@BBRBGR I hear ya. If it makes you feel any better, QD-OLED is also not yet available in that size, so this is the best we've got for now. That's why I'm especially curious if the 83" G3 will offer any measurable improvement over the G2. It could be an opportunity to get G3 performance at a (discounted) G2 price. I just got the 83" G2 and love it. Honestly, forget MLA, I wish I could afford the 97" lol
@@daveqsang Not sure what you mean by 6" but if you're talking about larger size versus better picture (MLA), in my opinion size is the more important differentiating factor, assuming you are going for the most immersive experience.
The LG 83G3 OLED is about 30% brighter than last year's G2 series
One of the reasons I have a QLED, actually a Neo QLED is because I tend to watch quite a good deal of Twitch and old WWE shows. I suppose I should stay away from an OLED for reasons like that.
Finally going tv shopping and was wondering what you recommend for us?? We use a tv for 2 reasons, streaming and Xbox series x gaming!!! Would like to hear your best pics. We’ve had our eyes on Sony and LG but would like to hear what the expert has to say. Thank you again for all the great videos.
Exciting video. Finalized my choice to get a G1 based on your input. Still loving this tv!
Question: where u find the fireplace screen saver on the tv in the background?? Looks cool!
I honestly love your reviews so much good information best channel on RUclips my first expensive TV is an LG CX55 and I love it so far I have no issues looks Fantastic in every aspect👍👁
This is - THE YEAR - that I'm finally getting a new TV (after 20 years). Sammy, LG, & Sony. Let the race begin.
For me Samsung is no longer in the race - later nerfing their TVs in firmware updates (after release and reviews of course) to increase reliability to reduce replacements, make their latest models look better etc. It reminds me of the scummy tactics of some triple-A game devs later adding predatory monetization or other shady stuff after release and good reviews are out. Because of that i literally will no longer touch a Samsung even if they were the exact same performance but half the price.
@@whiskizyo2067 I will definitely keep that in mind. I'm leaning toward Sony/LG at the moment. Yes, Sammy has been caught cheating, throttling their phones many times in the past plus gods what junkware/bloatware they always include in their hardware.
@@lil----lil and the fricking build quality issues on the Samsung, so it's their hardware and software
Forget Samsung. If you can afford, go with Sony, otherwise LG.
@@whiskizyo2067 😅 Samsung no longer "in the running" is this a joke?? everyone is snapping it up in stores!
Caleb, I don't think any of us in the market for a 2023 OLED can truly know until there's an independent, both objective AND subjective, side by side by side comparison of all 3.
Honestly, the top 3 pics are so amazing each would look great in your home! It’s more about operating system for me, buying a TV for 7-10 years I dont even worry about a few hundred dollar difference…
This sound like one Huge sponsor from LG, I could be wrong but definitely doesn’t seem subjective at all and strongly geared toward one company 😐
The g3 and the A95L are the 2 tvs I’m waiting to see reviews on most because I need to upgrade my tv
G3 /w Dolby Vision in HDR is gonna destroy A95L!😊
A95L has already won, even A95K would have won against G3 in their own comparison had they not carefully chosen which content to show on it so it's low saturated color brightness won't be visible
@@shivamarya5225 pure speculation and disservice to Caleb - G3 77" beats A95K 65" easy - given wall space what you you choose if offered freely. I like Panasonic you like Sony - but next year when I'm buying I want to see who does a good enough 83" for good price for me - If may be Samsung - but would rather Sony - may get a Panny 77" if really good - We just need to wait for indepth reviews
@@nimblegoat disservice to Caleb? This video is partly sponsored by lg and he's the one putting that misleading thumbnail and video description when he didn't even have any testing done or looked at the TVs in a non biased setting, he's not even looked at a G3 outside of Lg's own event, G3 even beating 2022 tvs is pure speculation at this point and Caleb himself doesent even respect his own opinions, in the Sony video he says A95L is the tv to beat this year without even seeing other TVs, that was pure speculation
And i don't get why Caleb doesen't have a mastering monitor himself to actually compare if any tv is pushing highlights or dimming shadow detail on its own instead of preserving creators intent. Clearly that should be a priority for doing tv reviews now that manufacturers are actively trying to get into Hollywood studios. He doesent even break his own news, Vincent did the investigative journalism of finding out about the hdmi 2.1 thing and Caleb just took that info made his video, at least he credited Vincent this time. In the past he didn't even credit Vincent for finding the prices of many TVs before the official release date
Last year too he have best tv to A95k cause he thinks it'll get more views but didn't even say why it's better than s95b, he should've just linked to Vincent's video explaining why
@@shivamarya5225 In Vincents shootout , the Panasonic was a close second - I like the indepth of Vincents reviews - Calebs are fine - he has stats for nerds/geeks or whatever he calls it . Caleb gives sage advice for man in the street . Let's get real this event was not for reviewing n detail - Vincent himself takes his time - this was a show case for LG - Caleb gave his opinion that at face value the G3 looked better than the A90K - Most of the Samsung 77" OD-OLED "reviews' out there are just mainly impressions - also Caleb considers price Vincent leaves that up to us - as I said the shootout between LG 77" MLA are a Sony 77" OD-OLED is worth waiting for - I'm also interested for the 65 Panasonic ( shame not MLA 77" ) - Really as a consumer I hope the G3 s the good , same for gen 2 OD-OLED - Plus saying the Sony is the best last year - is subjective - Samsung was best value , LG best gaming , Panasonic best movies - Sony was rated high in many categories . Some people like Samsungs take on image . Anyway I commented as it was a disservice for no real reason for you to justify - have you seen the G3 ?? - you are basically saying Caleb is a sell out or gullible - at minimum not to be trusted - all because you think the a90k is better than the new G3 - just because - hey you may be right Caleb says otherwise - no point impinging someone - LG probably did set up the showing in those modes - out of the box - that's a lot of reviewers to annoy. Yeah shame about the Pentomic 1000 - hopefully still allows better processing , better dark control , snappier etc . - Caleb's favorite TV last year think was a Sony a X95K 85" from memory - he also prefers Sonys natural look to Samsungs QD-OLED last year . But many have commented LG and Samsung have stepped up this year for processing -Caleb said the G3 was better than G2 - so yeah if you have the money buy a Sony A90L 77"- get that receiver if you need more 48Gbps HDMI channels - but I think those who buy the G3 77" will be just as happy or C3 or Samsung or Panasonic - i still have a plasma - and I'm still really happy with it - even though I know these TVs blow it out of the water
Coming into this, I would have liked for you to have explained at least a lil what the MLA tech is, or did I somehow miss that?
I work as a sales responsible for AV at a electronics retailer in Denmark, and i walk among these televisions almost everyday, and has done the same thing the past three years on former TV models.
Since the televisions on display in the store is constantly on and showing content these panels endure a lot of stress, especially the OLEDs. All of the WOLED screens on display is showing signs of permanent image retention after a year on display. (A80K, 707, 807 and two C2s) the S95B and A95K on the other hand is not showing any signs of burn in or IR. All of the TVs are in their standard preset and the QD OLEDs are definitely brighter in this preset as well.
Note: Every panel setting such as pixel shift is turned ON and compensations cycles are run often.
I do not have the G2 on display so i can not say what kind of impact the heatsink has on that panel.
I think it's weird that Rtings findings are the complete opposite of my own. WOLEDs has always burned in when on display, C1, CX and A80J was basically ready to be thrown in the trash after their job was done.
Maybe the QD OLEDs are more susceptible to burn in on test patterns, rather than real world content?
Great video as always Caleb.
Got a free Niu Kqi2 scooter for review and was suprised how awesome it was , I bought some shares in the company. Love that Halo light btw.Also LG for life ,been a fan since there old Goldstar days.
You should take a look at latest Classy Tech video about the new way to measure brightness using the new scenes which are closer to movies brightness than typical 10% window, QD-OLED really can keep the brightness much higher than LG oleds. We don't know for sure how MLA will behave until they are tested with these tests, but it doesn't seem too good from his analysis.
Sorry, I had to chuckle at the bicyclist (no names please) cruising RIGHT THROUGH A STOP SIGN during the promotional intermission. Wheeled vehicles (even bikes) in most states have to obey posted traffic controls. OTHERWISE ... such a good video. Thanks, Caleb. :)
New owner of 77" C2 and I honestly can't see how the picture can get any better. It's really remarkable. Interested to see if LG's forthcoming HDR Film Maker mode will come to the C2 in a firmware update.
What was your previous TV? This is huge to contextualizing the claim at how remarkable your experience... For instance my current TV is B8
@@alyssacrypto previous tv was 65” Panasonic plasma Their last generation plasma ZT60 model that had the reference Master Panels. At the time, the best tv on the market.
Great content and information! Thanks
serious question ....is OLED alien technology gained from the Roswell crash of '47 ?
Great analysis of LG's strategy 👍 It will be interesting to see how the G3 compares against the 2023 QD OLEDs... Thank you for the video
There's article saying tht the G3 knock both Samsung S95b and Sonys Qd-Oled out of the park!
@@beats-by-skrill8925 bruh stick to 2023 😂
@@beats-by-skrill8925 2023 LG top model is better at brightness than 2022 Sony/Samsung top model, what a surprise.
@@andreiga76 only when the bright part is white on content lg specifically chose to show and comapre with 2022 TVs, we'll see how bright it is compared to actual 2023 models in some time
@@shivamarya5225 mla boosts standard rgb pixels as well.
Great video Caleb.
When you get a G3. In my CES comment I want to hear how WOW Orchestra needs an LG Sound bar. How is it that I have a Vizio M-Series Soundbar that supports DTS:X. However LG says it works with an LG Sound bar. I doubt very seriously it can only work with an LG Sound bar. Like how would the HDMI audio signals know what device it is connected too? When you do your TV test I hope you will spend time in your review to talk about the audio feature. I would love to use an LG G3 TV speakers with a Sound bar at the same time while connected with a HDMI cable.
Shoutout to Rtings! We don't know if we can trust QD Oleds won't burn in early yet so s95c and s90c testing by them will be invaluable. Numbers and Data! Where were the nit numbers?
Would like to see a video testing whether apps run better on streaming devices or the native smart tv apps.
Apple TV runs Netflix WAY better than the lg c2 does I’ll tell you that .. I only use the Apple TV for everything now
Really looking forward to your upcoming Sony A95L review!
Already pre-ordered LG G3 OLED - can't wait
Is it still good choice to buy Lg C2 evo 55 inch for watching OTT PLATFORMS
I'm buying a new 77" TV this year. As to whether it's a G3, QD OLEd or even a Samsung Qn Mini will depend how they look next to each other as well as informed reviews. Comparing this year's G3 against last year's QD OLEDS doesn't help me much. I'm excited in that I believe this year's TV will be the most advanced and best looking TV's out so far and represent a significant improvement in picture.
I bet you say this every year Carl the Cat!
@@gosman949 I do say it every year but this time the TV's are really exceptional so I'm really gonna buy one this year.
@@carlcat haha me too!
@@gosman949 lol
It would have been great to have known that the new Sony A95 will use Deuterium, which will contribute to a longer life and possibly less chance of image retention, before I bought my A95K in DECEMBER, only to find out it will likely be OBLITERATED just a few months later by the new 2023 TVs. Not sure why, but I find the word "obliterate" mildly hyperbolic. Other than that, I love your content, and I can't wait for your hands on reviews of the G3, the S95C and the A95L. I find your reviews so helpful!
How much of what was discussed here will or won't apply to the C3 OLED? That's always been their best value and most popular OLED and the G-series was just a small improvement, usually just in build quality and feature set, but with almost the same picture.
The G series uses a heat sink to dissipate heat allowing the panel to be driven much harder without motherboard failure or pixel damage.
Yeah I have a lg g2 and is substantially brighter then a C2 because of the heatsink. They also mount completely different to the wall. They look amazing as the mount goes into a recess in the tv giving that supper clean look.
If I ever upgrade again, it's definitely going to be to an LG G-Series with MLA, but not until it's available in an 83" model.
LG G3 will kill it.. my G2 is the Best TV i ever seen.. gave my A95K Back because of Android and Picture was not so good as my Old G1
I do watch a lot of financial news channels that have the ticker tape running at the bottom of the screen so I am glad you mentioned that even with QD-OLED I will still get burn in. I guess I have to go down to Mini-LED TV instead.
Thankfully, that may be the last time you have to compromise on a TV. By the time you need to get another TV again, micro LED should be in the market.
Out of LG's 2023 line up only the G3 incorporates MLA.
So for interested buyers who cannot wall mount a TV why is LG not offering an official stand mount?
I appreciate third party stands could be utilised but would retailers, such as here in the UK, who offer a delivery and installation service entertain using a stand they were not familiar with?
Alternatively, why not incorporate MLA in the C3 which can be stand mounted?
I agree, the C3 seems pointless without this upgraded MLA tech, making the G3 the obvious choice. Probably the 2024 C4 will gain the brightness feature.
Panasonic and Philips also have MLA with stand included
@@AndrasMihalyi Has either Manufacturer announced a release date for it's MLA TV?
@@terrym540 Autumn 2023
@@AndrasMihalyi Thanks for the information.
Quite a while to wait.
I wonder if they will be priced to compete with LG's C3 or G3.
I have two B7 55" and 65", two GX 55" and 65" and one G2 83" - so far there is no burn-in on any of them. We love the deep blacks and image quality, but also love the consistency in WebOS. It is by far the best TVos i've used on a TV, although we use an Apple TV4K on every TV, so that is only used when screwing around with settings and updating FW. Looking forward to seeing the G3s.
My C8 has burn in but it took a couple years. Not a big deal as the spots were from 2 games I played ALOT. Next time ill buy 2, one for Movies and one for Gaming.
kinda glad i held off on a95k, i could of scored and excellent condition open box 65 inch for 1750 a couple weeks ago
I might be in the market for a new OLED. Currently rocking the CX. This video is nudging me to the G3.
Don't see the point of super high brightness when the whole screen dims to a tenth of it if the whole screen is bright. APL on OLED is making the bright highlight useless to me. I have to lower the contrast to a certain point so I don't notice the dimming.
Nice video Caleb, very informative. Also kudos to LG, people in Disney are not crazy, they know what are they doing.
Burn-in is the one of the reasons I haven't bought an OLED yet, the second being the price of one that would address that issue in any meaningful way. Static elements are so omnipresent, that I'll forget that I'm watching shows/playing games with those elements until I see their ghosts while I'm watching/playing something else.
Can't wait for the next quantum leap in TV tech.
did you see the G3 83"? Looking forward to your review vs. G3 77"...
I’m still rockin a now 6 year old C7, and it’s still producing beautiful images.
I am interested in the best bang for my buck 77” OLED. Anxious to see Samsung S90C and C3 pricing. Both TVs in my opinion will be close enough to their more expensive siblings. This might be optimistic but hoping for sub 2k on one or both of them. Might even consider C2 as that is a wonderful TV as well but waiting these new ones to see how it competes.
Try $4500.00 an up it's crazy
@@DonGlassjr agreed. I have a hunch this competition will drive prices way down though. Samsung gave out awesome deals on the s95B.
C3 won't have MLA which kinda sucks. It might just be a slight improvement over current C2s
I expect the QD-OLEDs will be a lot more expensive than the G3. I’m looking to upgrade this year, and that price difference might be the biggest factor
@@MrMoneymedia If you're gonna be buying a top of the line TV like the G3, I doubt another $500 difference for a 65" TV is going to make or break your choice
how is panel lottery these days? Banding and so on. Had problems back in 2017 with the E7 65Oled LG
Hey does anyone know what that flame screensaver is called?
As I own the (2020) CX and have had no issues with burn-in thus far the G3 looks amazing!!!
Can't wait to get mine when it comes out. Going from the G1 to G3
Please do more videos of cable TV and streaming services on these high end tvs. See how it looks with low grade hd.
QUESTION: How about Stuttering? It is truly terrible the way those incredibly expensive OLED TV sets of 2022 have that "Stuttering" with the Blu-ray movies running at 24 frames per second. Has the performance been improved to reduce stuttering in 2023?
My guess is that to the average consumer, the top three will be mostly equal on pic quality in the store. Then you factor in the recommendation of the salesperson, which is hard to account for.
For me, since pic quality will be great in any case, it will come down to ancillary stuff like UX, remote, and good ol’ brand loyalty. I’m considering them all, but leaning G3 for those reasons.
Price will matter too. If the TVs all look about the same to the average viewer most will buy which ever one they think is the best value.
@@MistyKathrine For sure! But since the G3 and S95C pricing is the same (at least in the sizes that have been announced), and the Sony is usually more expensive (but also hasn't been announced), I can't really factor that in at this stage. FWIW, I don't think I'd pay even more for the Sony since they'll all be really close.
Yes LG G3 100 percent! Great picture quality and enough HDMI 2.1 inputs
I was a Sony customer but moved on to C-1
Upgrading to G3 this year
With Samsungs constant updates ruining the S95B last year. & Sonys new QD OLED being $6000 this year. I’m really leaning towards a 77 LG G3 this year. I just hate that it doesn’t come with a stand. I know the gallery series is suppose to be wall mounted, but not everyone wants to mount their TV. They should at least offer customers a stand that doesn’t have to be purchased separately for $200+
Best Buy gives the stand away with the 77" G3.
thank you Rtings for the info! QD OLED burn in significantly faster than any other oled on the market !!!!!
Also what does the Sony display refresh or whatever they call it that you’re supposed to do once a year do?
I really like your reviews and I am in a situation where I can buy a LG G2 (2022) or a LG C3 (2023) for the same price, what would you do? I am only interested in image quality for movies and shows content.
Thanks. Calib is by far my preferred presenter for tv reviews & info.
My issue with the LG G3 ….. I want the MLA tech but cannot wall mount where I am putting this tv … I understand that it comes with a wall mount but how do they expect me to preorder the TV when they can’t even tell me when the stand will be available for sale .. I have reached out to LG on Twitter and they were just like .. maybe try the g2 stand or sorry we don’t know … wouldn’t it be smart if they aren’t going to ship a stand with it to at least have one available for purchase for the people that can’t wall mount … I feel like apple would never handle a pre order like this where nobody you call or talk to from the company can give you any answers because they don’t know … other than that tv looks awesome I’ll be happy to hand the money over once the stand is released
out of box is important, 99.9% of purchasers aren't going to have the tv calibrated, and the vast majority will pick a mode day one and that will be it.
Would absolutely love a 65inch 5 way showdown between:
Sony A95L
Samsung S95C
LG G3
Panasonic MZ2000
Philips OLED908
5 way battle done by 3rd party with no affiliation to any of the manufacturers or particular distributor of any of the brand. To do blind testing & use 10 judges for the eye test independently.
I know Philips does something like this....but given that it's done by themselves...i don't believe it's 100% fair and transparent.
When do the G3 and C3 series come out?
Just bought a g2 should I return and wait for g3?
Can you do vs on projectors 1080 vs 4k. Mid range budget. I have not been able to find any up to date videos.
Any chance you'll do a C2 vs C3 comparison?
What’s the projected release date on the G3 & C3??
Probably April 2023.
How about LG G3 83 inch, will it have MLA techcnology in it?