A Masterclass in Tension at the Cost of Character | BOOM Doctor Who Review \ Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Stephen Moffat's latest Doctor Who episode BOOM is under our microscope this week and while its the best this season has offered so far, it in no way can escape our critisms as an episode as well as the series as a whole so far. Listen in faithful viewer and let us know your thoughts in the comments below
#DoctorWho #Boom #moffat
0:00 - Initial reactions
0:34 - This Season VS previous
1:28 - Doctor and Ruby don't CLICK
1:54 - MOFFAT and his excellent words
3:59 - Behind the Scenes
5:26 - THIS is the DOCTOR!
6:12 - PICK A MESSAGE
7:47 - Moffat is his own worst enemy
9:00 - back to the plot
11:42 - Splice is dumb
13:09 - Mundy / s2 companion?
13:55 - Draft 2
15:00 - The BEST bit
16:34 - Could other Doctors have done this?
18:06 - MYSTERY BOX
19:40 - SUSAN TWIST
20:05 - The Season as a Whole
21:52 - Summary
22:53 - No Companion Drama
25:51 - Verdicts /10
28:38 - The Direction
31:30 - How to FIX IT 
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I loved it, Ruby is really growing on me. I wasn’t a fan at first. Boom looked really good too. I hope you enjoy future episodes.
I think our views on ruby just haven't changed since the first 5 seconds we spent with her. She's nice
I like Ruby, I think she has a lot of potential and it seems like her narrative run will be a slow burn. But I agree this doctor and Rube have no chemistry. I'm not sure what draws them together. What does he enjoy about her company and her his, kinda feels like he just picked up a random and he's struggling to figure out why they're friends
@5:40 - and Ncuti being true to the Doctor - doesn't ask who it is screaming... imagine if it replied :"I am Davros i am hurt" ..... like that time Capaldi encouintered the flower hands with eyes and a boy named Davros
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion but for me this episode was when Ncuti finally fully felt like the Doctor for me. I already liked him but needed to see how he handled serious situations.
If i went over everything here we'd probably be here all day but basically his Doctor felt like he had echoes of his previous incarnations inside him. Particularly 11 and 12. And some of his line delivery felt very Capaldi which impressed me.
Especially towards the end when almost mocking Mundy's blind faith and slowness to see the truth. He felt like he viewed the situation and her as beneath him.
I think this episode solidified his character for me.
As for Ruby and the Doctors dynamic its going by real quick thats true. But it felt more less like they were just pal's this episode and more like Ruby was willing to die for him. Again yes its going by fast but I still believed it.
This was the first time 15 felt older than Ruby to me too. Like he's the guardian responsible for a kids safety and when she didn't obey him or when she got shot, its on him. Hopefully in following episodes this comes up as a point of contention between them. With him being way more protective of her.
So yes this episode fully convinced me Ncuti's the right guy for the job. I just hope the writers have more incredible stuff in store for him.
i kinda agree with you but for me it could also just be Moffat writing the Doctor. I hope future episodes help him stand out but only the Bridgerton episode is written by someone other than RTD. I need 15 to feel more iconic and individual
Plus, this episode would never have happened if the Doctor had been wearing a coat or jacket with his damned sonic in a handy pocket!
I didn't like the fact that the doctor instantly sprinted off into an obvious battlefield. It contrasted against his supposed intelligence. First rule of first aid is to make sure the coast is clear, so you don't just become another injured person. Surely he'd be a little bit cautious of a battlefield???
'Devil's Chord' being a rearranged episode 6 would explain how they say it's June when Christmas was just a minute ago.
Yeah makes the most sense to us. However it does mean that their dynamic doesn't really change in the 6 episodes. So something major must suddenly happen in 7 or 8
It's a time machine
I like the idea that Ruby is related to the Trickster in some way, and i think its obviously the song inside her will be more relevant towards the end of the season. I dont really know why the doctor and ruby are sticking together, basically zero chemistry.
I'm kinda just hoping the show figures out a way for the doctor and ruby to have chemistry and good narratives that are enjoyable to watch till we get to the episodes that reveal the big season plot twists
Yall really don't see chemistry between the two?
@@DanyTheMe I think it's just that we're comparing these two to the iconics. The doctor offered Donna an exciting life away from her boring one. Martha and Doctor had a borderline romantic relationship. River and Doctor were married. Amy was really driven and motivated and did her own thing and the doctor was constantly having to keep up with her...
It kinda just feels a little but like the Doctor is going to these places, the problems kinda solve themselves without him doing anything, and Ruby is there. I guess he wants to give her a break from her average life? But it doesn't seem like she's unsatisfied with her life the way Donna was
I do think, looking back, it'll make more sense. I feel like the season twist will explain why the doctor is keeping her around, but at the moment she's kinda just there and hasn't really done anything other than be there while everything solves itself
@@jakejancook I disagree.
In space babies her background in foster care immediately comes into play when communicating with the babies. She serves as a perfect ambassador between the doctor's curiosity and the babies needs, and she's the one who first pointed out that everything in the ship made sense as a narrative, while the doctor was still focused on how it made sense in a material way.
Then in the next episode, her background in music is the literal catalyst for the adventure, the way they find out who's the antagonist, and ultimately what puts them in the same place as the people who end up sealing away the maestro.
In the one after that her manic stubbornness emboldens her to ignore the personal risk yo her to help the doctor stand on two feet, greatly increasing how much time he had to disarm the bomb.
All of these character traits were set up at the first episode with the Christmas goblins.
Her character feels defined and well utilized to me.
She's with the doctor because of her desire to know who her mother is.
The Doctor is with her because her unique upbringing actually makes her a perfect match for his new "feel your feelings, cherish the people around you, good music, cute outfit changes" personality. And also because she's a literal walking time anomaly.
You're insane. Ncuti's Doctor crystalized for the first time here for me.
You sound far more unhinged
@@benjames9158 You sound like a failed abortion.
Ladies, ladies please. We are all crazy people that spend our time watching Doctor Who videos on RUclips.
I generally liked this overall episode I just wished we saw more of the planet and less of the weird capitalism dialogue. The politics in the recent seasons have been a bit too in your face
@@jakejancook That's fair enough. I was a bit more... enthusiastic in my response than I should've been. It's just so much criticism has a...darker impetus than I care for so I'm a bit knee jerk defensive. Obviously genuine, non toxic criticism is a different animal.
Nit-picking, but the prop makers who made the mine needed to pay attention to the mesh in front of the lights. Some close-ups show a perfect mesh, and other close-ups show a crack/gap/cut in part of it. I'm assuming it was a brass etch that had a flaw, and they filmed the close-ups from different angles to get different light sequences (i.e. they didn't light the whole circumference of the mine, just the bit that shows on camera.)
Loved the secret word themes again! Vater, father.... Splice? a part of something mixed with another thing? Isn't that the meaning os splice? So maybe there is still mystery leading to who was the timeless child thrown through the portal. And did you catch this part : i bet the child regenerated going through the portal. Or was it the same kind of portal as used by Gatwa to come back from Gallifrey after genociding them all? So much mystery that COULD be used to make fans fall back in love with the show if they manage to get the sh*tshow of pandering on a leash. Maestro is the most perfect vilain to my eyes as a music afficionado. The scenery in 73 yards was amazing. Boom I'm moot about honestly, not bad... Dot and Bubble still has so much unexplored lore AROUND it. I literally had a TARDIS kind of vehicle as a "land set spacecrat" with a forcefield shield bubble like this years ago. With Chrono Trigger, Dragon Ball as influences using such domes. And Philip K D1ck lore. The spirit powers jackals of PKD remind me of Sutekh. Also : PKD used the spiders from space theme in The Divine Invasion, where a character similar to the Doctor is in play! They follow him on TV and they later meet the character. Surprised cuz they thought it was a show.... they gotta set this up as a future Doctor Who script...
Agree (again!) on the pacing and intensity, due to the fewer episodes. The constant snowing/susan twist thing is way too in your face for it to be mysterious and intriguing, because I'm just expecting it every episode now.
@4:00 Kiss Kiss is half of the title of that magical Torchwood episode with a blowfish driving a sportscar, no??
I really wish with that new companion that will be like the hero soldier with Splice in this episode, could also be withg the Doctor and another companion, 2 companions crew are cool. And we could se the return of Saibra maybe? The shapechanger lady from the bankheist with the psychic bugeyed tall alien couple. Or maybe Rigsy! With his grown up kid! And STORMAGEDDON dark lord of All !!! Imagine if we learned the Doctor saved stormageddon from being evil! And where is Doctor Mysterio? Can't he help from New York?
Why were we given a fake death scene so early on, about a character we barely know/feel anything for yet?
I completely agree re Ruby Sunday- I really dislike characters as excuses for plot points, without any depth. I have no idea who she is, aside from her backstory. Nothing interesting about her relationships, her sense of identity, her goals in life, her friends, her life, how she relates to the doctor etc. She's just... a cardboard cut out of a young, excitable companion. As for the doctor, I feel much the same way so far. They're both just... instant best friends? With a little bit of added mystery about snow falling and meta add ons and Susan Twist. Such a same, I was really expecting better writing from RTD2
Well we have Ruby Road, Rudy Sunday, from the family of Cherry Sundae...
Maybe the references wih Abbey Road, EMI studio, Abbey road studio,
means if we see an Abby, Abi, Abe, Emmy, Emily, Emma... wer must be wary! Anyone with a lactose themed name too! Miss Milky Way! Susan Yogurt Twist?
Great chat boys, would love to see you review some good shows.
Here's something I'm wondering. There has been a lot of debate over the new era. In regards to different story lines, casting and etc. Well Boom just came out recently and people seemed to like that episode a lot. I asked someone recently if they saw Boom or Wild Blue Yonder first before anything else of this new era, would the be more onboard with Doctor Who and they said yes.
So here's my thought, I honestly don't think people are against the idea of Trans characters or Disabled characters or people like Jodie or Nctui playing the Doctor or exploring different angles to characters like Davros or Doctor Who leaning more towards the supernatural and so on. But more on how it has been delivered in the show. Now Doctor Who has created a trans character before in Big Finish, Tania Bell. I asked about her in the Big Finisg facebook group and immidately I had loads of people praising the character. I checked the reviews and everyone says the same thing, well written dialogue and solid chemstry with the characters too.
So that's positive proof that people aren't against having a diverse cast or trying new things in Doctor Who. It all comes down to the delivery. How it comes across in the programme. I look at a show like Bluey where in 7 minutes top, one Bluey episode can convey so much! People can read inbetween the lines and spot things in the background. The basic show don't tell rule. So I'm wondering with a few tweaks with different elements like fleshing different characters out more and so on, the recent specials would actually land much better with people. Granted the specials are slap bang in the middle of Doctor Who trying to restart again. Hard to do something new while trying to acknowledge what came before. If it wasn't for the 60th, I honestly believe Jodie would have regenerated to striaght to Ncuti possibly. Who knows. So what do you guys think?
This was pretty solid discussion
It's definitely my favourite way to review something. There's plenty more on the channel
This is probaly one of the best nu who episodes since 2005 tbh. Ncuti in this on become the doctor before my eyes.
Completely agree re the Splice and the Mundy thing. Splice surely grew up/lives in a battlefield... Does she not understand what happens to people when they die here re holograms? It felt so bizarre and took out any sense of loss or empathy we should have felt. I hated the Mundy love story bit- it was so unnecessary, and I really hate the female characters = romance Moffat thing. She's a soldier, I think she knows how to prioritise survival? All of these characters actions were just so unrealistic- really took me out of it
Yep, the Ruby/Doctor dynamic is hugely unearned, at this point. It strains my credulity to imagine that they're besties already.
This episode took me by surprise. I was not expecting it to be any good after that hot garbage excuse of an excuse last week to do a musical that made 0 sense. This just proves when Moffat has 0 pressure on his shoulders & loads of time he writes master pieces. For the first time in the first four episodes with Gatwa it didn't feel like forced Chemistry between Gatwa & Millie. 8.5/10 for me. I will be happy if 73 yards is even half as good lol
How did the musical episode not make sense?
I see a lot of people saying this about the fantastical elements in the new season, but the show has been going out of its way since the specials to communicate to the audience that the rules of reality are different this season as we're dealing with reality shifting beings.
Not going to draw me in. Just not for me. I will happily touch the grass.
I did end up wondering how the war profiteering thing was supposed to work. Surely killing off your customers just cus theyre blind isnt smart economics. I guess ive rationalised it that theyre a weapons manufacturer not a medical company. But i still think it doesnt entirely make sense
I don’t think the soldiers are meant to be the customers. I think it’s the citizens back home. Remember this planet they’re on is uninhabited prior to the war
@@djdee6386 I dont think that explains why they would kill off their soldiers or why thatd be cost effective. I guess its that theyre intentionally killing off soldiers so that it APPEARS like theres a real war happening and therefore the home state keep buying weapons but i think the way it presented all this through the story just raised a lot of questions about it that i dont think it ever had time to cover.
A certain amount of casualties is required to keep conflicts ongoing and ensure that no one side of a war gains an advantage big enough to actually win a war. Therefore ensuring perpetual warfare trough the universe.
Real world weapons manufacturers do this, they just don't have killer "med" bots so instead they just use their wealth and power to lobby for instability and conflict in designated areas so they always have a means of profits, even if it means maintaining a steady death toll.
In the show, in order to justify the killings, the company defines most injuries as "lethal" so they can get away with terminating an optimal amount of people. Keep in mind this is in the future and in space so the population is big enough that they won't run out of customers.
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Ruby's just not doing it for me, but Ncuti is a sexy sexy Doctor!
See 73 yards next week
I mean this week sorry
I'm really hoping it changes my mind on her
She's been great in all episodes. She's been given little to little characterization and it has been done well. Especially in the second episode.
Excellent chat lads
I agreed
I think it was a poor mans version of The Doctors Daughter. Watched the first three back-to-back. Didn't like the extremely forced exposition, I get that there are trying to introduce it to a new audience, but be a little more subtle with it. I think the relationship between the Doctor and the companion feels forced for the amount of time they've known each other. And can they tone the camp down just a little bit? I've got a Doctor cries or needs a hug counter going for this season.
Camp is the vibe this season. Pretty sure that's not changing. I like it personally, it's good for the show to change vibes once in a while, keeps things from getting stale and when you look back it makes all the eras feel more unique.
Could ruby be doctor biological great granddaughter via Susan?
Sure, she could be. My problem with her is that she could be literally anything from the Trickster's daughter to Susan's daughter to my daughter
Her DNA scan on the tardis read as human tho.
Not saying they can't write around that, but it's worth considering.
As soon as I saw Tension 10/10 Character 3/10 in the thumbnail, I knew we were going to agree on a lot of things.
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It used to be a show built in real human problems with a sci-fi flare. Now it feels like theyre in a tv show. They pop into an episode, the event happens, we dont feel any push and pull or change.
I hate to compare it all to Chibnall Era, because Donna/Ruby are certainly more LIVELY, but Rosa was the episode where everyone was praising how good the historical stuff was and I fundamentally agreed ... and I had a glass shatter moment where I realised "wheres the character development?" take anything that isnt the big tense distraction, take any actual character moment, and whats it developing? Graham is a bus driver, okay so what? All the good stuff is Rosas story because thats copy/pasted from an already well told real world story.
and then that flat characterisation continued with flat characters for the next 3 seasons.
I've been complaining about that since Wild Blue Yonder actually, because its great at tension and mystery, and its great to have Tennant/Tate back, and it feels awfully nitpicky to say "its much better but not great"
But Wild Blue Yonder and this, both big bottle episodes with great tension. And when its all said and done why does it matter if Donna/Ruby almost dies if NOT for hanging on the assumption the audience ALREADY cares about their relationship. Theyre not doing the legwork to use these concepts to actually develop the characters investement in each other NOW.
Best in a while, but like you guys are saying, wheres the depth? It felt like if s1-4 did anything well ... if ANYTHING did anything well, apart from chibnall era because flat characters, it was the dynamics between doctor and companion. Its no surprise that s7 and s11 are some of the weakest stuff and theyre the same episodes where the dynamics seem to be entirely "obligation, theyre there because theyre there."
So far I'm really dissapointed with the sub par characterisation in the entire series, especially given RTD is the head writer. Fingers crossed it will get better 🤞
You have a really really low standard. This was not even a first draft, it was a mood board.
I'm curious: how much are Disney paying you? My feed is full of shills for this show along with a slew of Bots. Good luck to you, I mean, hell, who needs Integrity, right, its only the internet after all....
My ratings: Charisma: 0
Acting talent: 0
Writing ability: -10
Respect for Canon: -50
Ratings: hahahahahaha
RIP Dr Who.
Hahahahahahahahah. How does our review in any way come across as paid? We pay Disney just to watch the damn show.
That and there's so much hate on RUclips for the new season and you don't even have to go looking for it.
You're mad, mate
seems I posted to the wrong shill...however, I am amazed you paid Them to watch that crap...and I'm the crazy guy? My fault though, I had several pages open at the same time, my bad.@@burgunbeerd
Do you really think Disney would pay a channel of this size to give a lukewarm review about a TV show they don't even fully own? Close the tabs and go have a walk
well, something weird is going on, as my feed is full of channels with identical content, small numbers, small subs and no other content: SOMEBODY is paying for these Bots. Pity they didn't spend the money on better scripts and better actors....@@budgethornet7498
It's kind of silly that you think it's impossible for people to like this series... you're passing off things that are subjective as objective.
I am interested however, in what you mean by saying it disrespects canon?
Cuz personally I thought that's been one of this season's strong points since we've already got an acknowledgement of Susan, a happy ending for Tennant, and the first fish fingers and custard mention in years.
No character? So the gradual increase of intensity in his tone and behavior is no character? So him using control when he had none is no character? Not everything is an opinion, things need to make sense. This is actually a very braindead take
nah chill they're allowed to disagree with you
@@iggyecho1and he's allowed to disagree with them dude 😂
I agree, this new doctor's character makes perfect sense to me if you track his trajectory all the way back to the Capaldi era.
This doctor is more willing to express his feelings, admit when he doesn't know how to solve something, inform his companions of the actual risk before sweeping them of their feet. It literally feels exactly like what Capaldi and Jodie's doctors were working towards in terms of their development.