Restoration of a worn out 54yo Seiko and adding more jewels - Seiko 7005-7051
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Under macro lens, reaming out the mainplate and the barrel bridge to put new VTA jewels in place.
Watch: Seiko 7005-7051 (caliber 7005A)
Replacement: VTA jewels (Vintage Time Australia)
Tools: Seitz Jewelling tool
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Other useful sections such as polishing and information about Seiko mainsprings can be found in this video:
• Restoration of a 1970'...
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Custom made VTA (Vintage Time Australia) jewels for your Seiko:
You have to buy them on eBay
The link could change, if it’s not valid, search on eBay for: VTA jewels
www.ebay.com.au/str/vintageti...
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Escapement analyser (UK) / eTimer (rest of the world):
UK only - Graham Baxter:
www.delphelectronics.co.uk/pro...
Rest of the world - Steve Lunn:
www.etimer.net/
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:20 Uncasing 1, winding to full power
02:18 Timegrapher
02:53 Uncasing 2, dial and hands removal
04:44 Rotor, 2nd reduction, power let-down, balance & balance bridge
07:30 Motion, Calendar & keyless disassembly
11:05 Train disassembly
13:39 Wear testing
14:30 VTA jewels
14:50 Seitz jewelling tool
17:25 Jewelling
24:34 Balance settings removal
25:51 Barrel assembly
28:31 Balance settings epilame and balance testing
30:12 Keyless assembly
32:00 Train assembly, lubrication, cannon pinion
36:29 Escapement assembly
38:25 Timegrapher, escapement analyser, eTimer
43:46 Automatic work assembly
45:24 Rotor installation
46:30 Motion side assembly
48:17 Dial cleaning and fitting
48:42 Hands fitting
49:58 Case rust removal and polishing
50:43 Crystal installation
51:01 Casing
52:07 Before and after comparison Хобби
You have singlehandedly steered me into seriuosly doing this and getting into watchmaking! Long, detailed tutorials are what is needed and my personal preference in videos, thank you so much for putting in the effort and time into this.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I hope all your videos are like this one. Long and explanation about what you're doing and what you're working on. With a little humor sprinkled in. Thanks for taking us along
That's how I enjoy making the videos. Glad to hear you enjoyed it! 🙂
Wow loved seeing that Seiko being brought back to life, you're an scholar and a gentleman.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙂
Gosh this is so lovely. And lovely work with the upgrades! Very neat reaming tools, and very satisfying results! Congrats on the new (at the time of the video!) grapher, too!
Thanks so much! 😊
Your videos are simply FANTASTIC. PLEASE keep them coming.
Thank you so much! There is more to come 😉
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Just came across your channel. AMAZING VIDEOS. One of the best illustrations, Thank You and Keep them coming
Glad you like them! 🙂
Thank you, your camera shots are really good.
Thank you very much! 🙂
Wow that was awesome I just decided to invest in the experience tools. You are one of the most entertaining and informational watchmaker youtubers. Keep up the good work.
Awesome, thank you!
That’s Awesome it is more like I’m in the school Learning of how to repairs a watch good video thank you I learned something here…👍👍👍
Thank you! So nice to hear you enjoyed it and learnt something too 👍
A fantastic video! Very good footage and instructions. I'm restoring my 50 year old 7005-7012 black crosshair Seiko right now and learned a lot😊 Many thanks!
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! 🙂
Truly enjoy the stories and observations you bring up in your videos. When you questioned if it is worth spending top money on name brand tools, I will say what a semi pro cyclist told me when I was getting into cycling, “if you are making money with it, spend on name brand, otherwise, don’t.”
Thank you! I’m glad to hear you enjoyed it.
I know what you mean, but you know it’s not that easy to tell yourself to get the Tiagra when the voice in the head is telling you that you want Dura-Ace 😆
Leo, you cracked me up multiple times
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! 😉
Camera work is amazing. Thanks for taking the time and trouble to produce your videos.
Captain! Nice to see you back! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it 😉
How do you not 100 times the subscribers. Very detailed, love it!
Thank you! 😊
Last year I bought for £10 a gold plated 6109 and £8 the first Actus edition with the "SS", bought both for projects, both on timegrapher gave very very good readings, the 6109 the day wheel has jumped its pusher but keeps incredibly good time, the Actus has a slightly damaged dial and its 3 pane faceted crystal was badly scarred and pitted and again keeps very good time and a few hours with polish and several sanding grades I got the crystal almost perfect without ruining the crystal shape. Although not quite as good as the £4 gold not plate, 1947 Avia... sold on ebay as not working, full of water, needed a new battery and it was on an ancient expander bracelet also rolled gold... two turns of the winder sprang to life and had an almost perfect timegrapher score, good solid clean exterior and its like brand new... queen of my collection.
Yes the old Seiko watches can keep very good time. There are watches out there for not a great deal of money that can be turned with a little effort into very nice watches 👍
Сложная работа, но выполнена великолепно.
Браво!
Glad you liked it 👍
Fantastic video, Leo. Yours are the most informative and detailed. Thank you for your hard work, Cheers!
My pleasure! I'm glad to hear you enjoy them 😉
Phenomenal videography Leo. And the voice over of a master watchmaker and entertainer. Congratulations!😃
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 😉
Very helpful content, thanks Leo. Lovely job once again.
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
Fun to watch. I hope more will come in the future.
My time is limited so I don’t produce videos as often as I’d like but there is more to come 👍
Superb videos! Up there with the best of type. I know it’s a lot of work but I am really looking forward to more. Thanks for your hard work “for our viewing pleasure” 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! More to come 👍
Outstanding video in addition to your outstanding craftsmanship. I don't know what more to say.
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Very nice work, very interesting, great video’s Leo. 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! 🙂
Thank you for this wonderful video .
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Gingerly done....Thanx4sharing...I subscribed ✌ .
Thank you! And thank you for expanding my vocabulary. I love ‘gingerly’, it’s been added 👍
Wonderful video with a great explanation. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
Another brilliant video. Very informative with excellent dialogue and humorous delivery. So, so enjoy your videos Leo.
Thank you, glad you like them!
very enjoyable and instructive , and,entertaining.
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Nice too see you back😊
I never left 😆
It takes me ages to do this macro stuff but I'm always working on something. There’s certainly more to come 👍
You're a trip. Great info and vids. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it! 😉
Superb video in all respects. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I had to write out a comment. These are some of the best videos on RUclips. Honestly! This is such an excellent video I could definitely watch it a few times without getting bored. I love your voice over, I like your accent, I like the humour you bring and I also like the honesty and clarity about mistakes, way you may do things might be different to others etc. There is only one problem....it's a big problem.....we need more videos!!!!!!!! :)
Glad you enjoyed it! Especially this video which I think is my best video so far even though it doesn't get as many views as the others.
I'd love to do more videos and I will. Unfortunately this is only my hobby and my time is limited. There's more to come and if all goes well I'll be releasing them more often 👍
Great work. Great video.
I was able to see how amazing Seiko was in the 1970s.
They caused their own decline by their quartz technology.
But they revived mechanical watches. I am looking forward to the future of Seiko.
Thank you! Indeed, they are very nice watches, vintage and modern ones 👍
I'm a big seiko fan & that looks really good, i would be happy to wear it..
I love it, it’s on my wrist right now 👍
Excellent work, thanks for sharing
Thank you! 🙂
Hello Leo, I really enjoyed your video highlighting the Seiko 7005. I own a 7005, I purchased it in about 1972 while I was serving in the USAF stationed in Okinawa., mine has a beautiful dark blue face with a light blue outer ring. I just had it serviced for the first time. Your video was very informative, now I understand the workings of this old friend. Thanks!
I love this watch. The case is beautiful, perfect size, the 70's look... It's been on my wrist since the day I finished it and it keeps perfect time 😊
Muchas gracias desde España, es un vídeo muy didactico y entretenido.
Por favor, sigue haciendo lo mismo.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it 👍
your work is immaculate and its like piece of art . I have one similar model and i am looking to get it restored too .
Thank you very much, nice to hear you like my work 🙂
Get it restored, it's a very nice watch 👍
Jexcelent,the tuttorial,the Best
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Lovely job thanks for your uploads brill
Thank you!
Brilliant video and just on time as my jeweller set is about to arrive
I hope the video will help you to get started with jewelling 👍
Your work iss meticulous, your narration is clear, and your macro video detail is the best I've seen. I love your RUclips channel.
Thank you! Glad you like the channel! 😉
Beautiful you are good thank you again
Thank you 🙂
Beautiful...Thank you!
Thank you too!
Vdo quality amezing
Thank you! 🙂
Great video thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks you for the in-depth explanations of the parts and interactions as you go. Very educational for someone thinking of entering the hobby and not something many others do
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the video, a true gem. I’m about to work on my father in laws watch like this one. Been sitting in a drawer for 40 years. Your video sure will help getting it going again.
Good luck! 😉
Marvelous, this vídeo is priceless, so much rich and valious information, thanks lots for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing video! I have no words, impressive. When you fitted barrel arbor jewels I hitted thumbs up and follow buttons. Amplitude is good even for a modern Seiko. Excellent job my dude!
Thank you ever so much! I’m glad to hear you enjoyed it 👍
This Macro Video Is On Another Level... Brilliant.
Jim! Thank you. Nice to hear you enjoyed it 👍
Your sense of humour cracks me up, especially at 34:25 😂
Awesome! Now you know how to put bridges down, with a sense of humour so you’re not frustrated when you have to fiddle around with it for ages to get everything aligned 👍
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i like the way you talk hahaha will be one of your watchers , from CAIRO .
Thank you! I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying it 😉
Absolutely awesome!. Your videos are the best for baby-step detail. Thanks!. I would love to see you do a vintage alarm watch (Bulova, Memovox, Vulcain, etc.) some time. Btw, I am never _bored_ by whatever you show or how long it is. If someone out there has the attention span of a three-week-old puppy and finds anything outside of explosions and rapid gunfire _boring_ , then go watch a mindless zombie movie or something, I want to learn watch repair. I like the details and baby steps. So, please, LV, no need to apologize for anything. These are fantastic videos.
Great idea! Nice to hear you enjoyed it 👍
@@MacroTime28800 My motives are a little selfish....I have a Vulcain Cricket with the 120 movement and it has a broken balance staff (if I can find a balance staff). I have to build up the nerve to attempt a repair. I also have a Bulova wrist alarm with the 11ATRCD movement, with a bent balance staff and the bottom balance jewel is missing. Thanks for all your videos.
All you need is a few scrap movements. It won’t matter if you damage the staffs. Eventually, you’ll get it right and feel comfortable with it
Great video, Leo!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very interesting, educative with a hint of humor ! Thanks for sharing all of your videos ! 😊🇨🇦
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@@MacroTime28800 your welcome !
Leo, Thank you for such an informative video. Great production values and lots of good information. Top notch!
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
*Beautiful job, fantastic descriptions & explaining.*
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Thanks Leo 👍🏻
No problem 👍
Excellent visuals' and commentary. Tutorial for beginner and enthusiast in equal measure. Thank you. Pleasure to watch and learn.
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great video
Thanks!
I really enjoy your videos. Well done and thank you for the content.
Thank you, glad you like them!
Wow great video
Thank you! 👍
Beautifully filmed and super informative! Thank you!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Leo. Loved the commentry and and great explanation/tutorial on how to use a jewelling tool. Keep 'em coming!
I’m glad to hear you enjoyed and found it helpful! There’s more to come but it takes me quite some time to produce them 😩
Leo. Thank you for the very informative video. Was nice to see the work with the seitz tool. Always love your work and videos.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Yes I got the opportunity to show off the Seitz tool and I took it 😆
Excellent job. Cong..
Thank you! 🙂
Leo that was epic, what a fantastic end result 👍many thanks
Glad you enjoyed it 😉
Another good video Leo. And yes, that case opener is gorgeous, so beautifully machined.
Thank you! I do have a thing about nice tools 😆
I so agree with you, we mustn’t be afraid to take on new challenges!
Long time no speak! I hope you’re keeping well.
Indeed, the only way to progress is to undertake new challenges 👍
My birth year, would love one like that for sale
You can find these on eBay. If you ask the seller to send you a decent picture of the case back you will be able to identify the year and the month of the production:
retroseiko.co.uk/seiko-serial.htm
Your humour cracks me up. You’re scottish aren’t ya 👍
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! 😆
You think I wear a skirt? I mean kilt!
I live in the UK, in the northwest but I’m from Czech 👍
My first time watching you videos LV, absolutley love the detail and your great humour! Now subscribed and will be watching everything from now on. Keep it up as you are very very good at this!
Awesome! Thank you! 👍
Wow, I really enjoyed this! Being an enthusiast repairer I picked up a lot of good stuff and inspiration. Thanks! Oh, and IT IS a beautiful watch!
Thank you ever so much!
Very happy to hear you found it helpful 👍
Wow, this video showed up in my feed, and what an unexpected delight! I learned a lot from just this one video. Thank you for the detail on installing those custom jewels and on exactly which lubrication products you're using where. Very helpful!
Hey! Glad to hear you stumbled across my video and enjoyed it! 👍
Sadly, Weishi's or the lower end ones like my 1000 lack what Tg5.0 had which is an acoustic scale like on your etimer, I found it far more useful in getting the acoustic peaks, dwells etc into perfect sync which gave the most perfect of readings best one could get. I had before my Weishi a weird ebay Chinese 3d printed thingy box and used Tg5.0 with it and my PC and it was such a easy thing to use to tune up my movements to perfection or near enough, strange though I still do the old way of time monitoring over 24 hours with my old Soviet stuff, dunno why it was how I did it before machines made it easy and all my Vostokery, Slavas, Poljots etc keep superb time just by monitoring over a 24 hour period then working out how much of a nudge on the regulator arm needed... job done :)
I like the eTimer because of the real sound of the watch rather than the annoying beeping of the Timegrapher that doesn’t help anything. It is certainly much helpful software. It is also nice that it does the long term logs when you can observe issues the Timegrapher is not capable of 👍
Hi Leo, Been waiting for your 7005 video. I have the similar watch: 7005-8039, sn: 0N6417. Only difference is, your case steps down at the lugs. Still have/use the Oyster style bracelet.
I had to Google it to see yours and indeed, very similar. Same dial, same case except the step down at the lugs. It’s incredible how much difference the step makes. If I saw yours and you didn’t tell me about it, I would have thought it’s a completely different watch.
It’s nice you still have the original bracelet. Mine didn’t have any strap at all.
Nice video
Thank you!
Champion!!
Thank you! 🙂
Beautiful ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Great video and great work. Bergeon should make you a brand ambassador. I may just sell a kidney for a few nice tools .
I have a feeling that if I buy some more Swiss tools my bank manager might remove my kidney without asking me 😆
@@MacroTime28800 lol
This is brilliant, so enjoyable. You sure are a master at work , how long have you been a watchmaker?
Thank you!
It's just a hobby. I've been doing it five years
There’s nothing like some good swarf.
Indeed!
Cracking Vid mate Crackin`
Thank you! Glad to hear you enjoyed it 😉
EXCELENTE SERVIÇO 👍👍🇧🇷
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Luar biasa terima kasih atas videonya👏
Thank you! 🙂
Great video. I just found your channel and really enjoyed watching. I'm now a subscriber. I like the fact that you explain what lubricant you are using. Can you please tell us what camera, lens, microscope combinations you are using? I really appreciate you taking the time to make and share these.
I don't use a microscope, I have an old Olympus camera and and a macro lens
I have a 7005A whose balance wheel makes a metal-on-metal noise when the dial is up. Any guess?
I intend to finally disassemble it in the future, and i'll be using your video as a guide. Amazing macroshots, close and clean. Thanks in advance.
Difficult to say not being able to see it. Perhaps not even the balance wheel. It could be the oscillating weight.
Thanks for the attention nonetheless. I'll disassemble it anyway, so.
I like how he says “Jerky”.
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Your best video so far Leo! Loving the Leo character😄. So much detail in this one, going to have a lay down to rest the brain🤣. Can’t believe your tools, I’m so jealous! What are those silicon sticky sticks called? I cannot find them on Cousins UK?
Thank you!
You wouldn’t be jealous of what is left in my bank account 😩
You’ll find them under ‘cleaning swabs’ and the one I used is the ‘teardrop’:
www.cousinsuk.com/product/adhesive-head-swabs-bergeon-swiss
@@MacroTime28800 🤣Thanks Leo!
anytime 😉
Thanks for your video Leo, you are an inspiration. I have a Seiko 7009A with a cracked centrewheel jewel. Is it possible to replace it without having a staking set ? I ultrasound cleaned it so not sure if that caused the crack.
I doubt the ultrasonic would crack a jewel. The high-end watch cleaning machines also use ultrasound as well as rotation. You can probably see the crack now because it’s clean and you can actually see it.
Not a staking set but you will need a jewelling tool. My most recent video shows two different jewelling tools, the difference between them and how to use them.
thank you so much for making these videos. i currently have an old Seiko that was from my grandfather, with this exact movement, and since the lack of any professionals where i live, i will do the maintenance of this one, this video is incredibly helpful. i can hear the bearings of the oscillating weight spinning as dry as a bone. i don't think i will be able to get these VTA jewels, you think its worthless to do this work without replacing the bushings? again thank you so much! i already suscribed and will watch the rest of your videos, love it
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
You might not need the VTA jewels, it might not be worn out like mine. You’ll have to take it apart and see what needs doing. If you’re lucky, maybe it will need only cleaning and lubricating. You might have some issues and not necessarily the same as I had. If you need the jewels, they are on eBay.
@@MacroTime28800 thank you for your reply leo! i will rewatch your video a couple times more and then i will begin dissasembling mine, i'm waiting for some tools. i hope to get this right lol
I hope it goes well! Have fun and enjoy it 👍
Hi Leo. Thankyou so much for all your great video's I have learnt so much from you. Could you tell me what the name of the staking tool is? I would love to have a go fitting a jewel. Thankyou once again.
Thanks!
It's Seitz/Bergeon. They stopped making the one I have, the new has a new tool but all the bits are the same:
www.cousinsuk.com/product/seitz-jewelling-tool-complete-set
Thanks for the interesting video. Does having plastic parts make any of the newer movements like 4R35 and 6R35 any inferior?
A good question. People don’t like them because they are plastic, they want metal.
Only time will tell how long they will last.
Note that the plastic parts are in the day and date area. There is an advantage to that. If you change the day or date at around midnight when you’re not supposed to, the plastic part will break and the metal ones that connect to it should be OK. With all metal parts, you would potentially damage several parts instead of just the one weaker one that’s made out of plastic.
Aha! That makes sense. I’ve heard some people say it cuts production costs, which I doubted. Converting just two parts to plastic is not actually cutting costs. What you said makes a lot of sense. Thanks again for everything. Subscribed!
Book marking this video. I just got a 7005-7100 and I'm attempting a restoration on it. Any idea where I can find a replacement crystal? Mine is beyond repair...
I'm sorry I don't know. I'd Google it and look through different threads and posts 👍
"seiko automatic 17 jewels 7005" ...
nope
"seiko automatic 19 jewels 7005" ... 🤣
48:15 the date setting mechanism is much simpler than the one one any 4R35/NH35 ... 😉
i suspect they use the "gear backlash" on the 4R35/NH35, not as a "common default", but for its "disengaging effect" if the crown is in "date configuration" for a while ... that was not the case on this movement ? would it be a problem ? 😐
{ no other idea why otherwise, they put so many gears on that part for the 4R35/NH35 ?🤔 }
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I live in Liverpool. Sounds like you do too?
I’m not too far from Liverpool 👍
ESSA MÁQUINA ÉA MESMA SEIKO NH35 Q TEM NOS RELÓGIOS PAGANI DESIGNI 👍🇧🇷
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Hi Leo! I recently inherited a Greiner machine from my grandfather. The machine is huge and difficult to operatie. But it has the same microphone as the one you have standing there! How can I use mine to create the same setup you have there?
Do you mean you want to use the software with the microphone or you want to use the machine?
Just found the link in your description, quite expensive for a hobbyist at this point.
@@MacroTime28800 I have a chinese weishi aswell. I got the Greiner last month and its about 10 times the size of the weishi and uses paper to show the results
OK, email me. My email is under ‘About’.
Is it a 19 jewel watch now?
Yes it is 👍
What about the wear on the bridge 6.26 ?
I noticed the wear too. When rotating the rotor and putting pressure on it, there was no resistance at all. You'll see that towards the end of the video when I install the rotor. Perhaps the bridge or the rotor was replaced at some point 👍
Plausible, great video by the way👍
Thank you! Glad to hear you enjoyed it 👍